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Gregg and Frank open the second hour of the show looking at how Jake Arrieta can find consistency for the Phillies, and fantasy owners, in 2019; Frank says he wants to see a few more spring training games from him before going out and drafting Arrieta. The guys go on to talk about Luke Weaver, whom Frank and Gregg is a safe bet in lower rounds, as he pitches in the safe confines of Safeco Field. The guys also question if Jon Gray can have a bounce back year.

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Did let me just become best friends? Fantasy best Friends forever? Our and over two Fantasy best Friends forever. Fantasy Sports Radio Network. Frank Staffle, Gregg sousmid here with you, Greg, Greg? Now, I just found something out of this terrible am I gonna be upset? Or is it one of those I don't care about? Not care? You can't watch Chris Archer can came some reason. Pirates do not have a till what Frank said, because he was whispering. You can't hear

him the pirates. You don't have a television broadcast today, and I want to watch Chris Archer pitge. So this worked that? Well, No, we'll just have to listen to it on the radio. I don't know how that's gonna work. I'm just kidding, Greg. I'll follow. I'll follow like a dude. Why doesn't who like a Pirates? Wait? Wait wait wait wait? Who the Pirates playing Orioles? They have broadcast? No, neither

team is on television. Hilarious. No, don't say that hilarious because nobody wants to watch an Orioles Pirates split squad screen training game. How do you know there's split squads? Right? No, no, you're not. Someone would argue that the Orioles roster is a split squad. You know who I kind of like. By the way, speaking of the Orioles, I think you might have drafted him. We may, We may have talked about him recently, and I kind of just discovered him

separately from when we were already. What you're gonna say, Yeah, say it, say it. I'm shaking my head. Who is it? Greig said, are you gonna? Is he an outfielder? Yeah? He is. He's on my team. He's on my Great Fantasy Basic Limitational team. Greg, I like him very cheap. Fifteen Homer's fifteen stone basis cost nothing. Cedric man the second,

I like him. I like Cedric Mollins. I like him more now that I know he has like the Roman numeral initial thing after Frank Stamfle to F S two that can can we make a lower So we're gonna do it. We're gonna make lower thirds that I'm gonna I'm gonna be F S two Frank Stamfeld the second or Fox Sports du mean you will be gregs in the fourth or not it'll be Ivy your father. Your father's name is Frank. It's called the Dons. I thought

his name is Frank name Frank's Birthday's coming upday? Do you want to come in for his sixteenth birth Did you want to come on the air? Wen't one of birthday bash? Was that one of his drenames to be on the air with us? Yeah, we have mom for the season he had at his birthday. I don't know if he wants to do that though, I'll ask him figured outthay. He's not a prospect guy. But one thing that you're gonna learn about my dad on the air

is you'll probably hear a lot. Is he likes power, Like we only play in points leads together, like my points lead, my points home league. He's a part of it. You just draft guys that like Mash Home Runs. That's his thing. We probably like madd Olsen this year. Oh yeah, you own Chris Davis last year. You alost Christdames every year. You know what, before Chris Davis would kay he owned Chris Davis would have see every year. He doesn't like to a gallo, actually doesn't like to again, We're gonna

have to ask him. I have a headache today. Sorry, Greg, I noticed by your NBA recap where I thought that was harsh. I didn't have I didn't have a headache. Retakes for his NBA recap that I had to edit out today. Great job, Gregg's imagine to know that right? No one knows anyway, you know, I think eight five people watching us at home. I think that maybe that maybe would have That's what gave me the heache. Constantly messing up, constantly messing my headache, constantly fixing. You know

what's awesome. He's like, thankfully we don't keep the out taste where I'm just like dropping f bombs constantly. That's gonna. I can't imagine. I can't believe Frank doesn't love that. I will say, the one saving grace of you messing up constantly today during the NBA recap, was you getting mad at yourself? So I was laughing about that while I pissed myself bombs like not anybody else. When you do this one, Greg, you give yourself a pet myself.

Let's go. Come on, That's what I'm constantly doing. You got a text message from a friend, his name Ryse with is it j Jay Fresh name Jeff No, the other guy Jared keep hell No, the dude that we had in studio, Jerry Jerry Wolf Jeffy j Wolf studio friend friend. Because he never gave me an email, He's supposed to contact me afterwards. I'm supposed to help him. His name reminds with Lake Bailey, and he says, you can watch the Orioles on the Mason site stream masson

the Atlantic Sports Network site stream. Really, I feel like it would be on MLB TV. That's what That's what Lake Bailey says. Tell me again, where do I find it? Masson? It's gonna Masson's website dot com. A'monic guys, thank you Lake Bailey, whatever your name is, Lake Bailey is his name. Masson dot com is not a real website that's in sports. Dot com is a real website, Frank, people who have already who are listening to this hours later, already knows

what happens. So we're expending more time on this. We wanted to get to Jake Arietta, which is where we left off before the break. Jake Arietta, for Ace, obviously underwhelmed last year in Philadelphia, says he was hurt, He was pushing himself. Yeah, da da dada everything you'd expect him to say. You watched him in spring training or you saw him three perfect innings, right, very very low for most people. But can he be in this range with Jay happ Can he be in this range with Kintana?

Can he be in this range of Kyle Hendricks? Of a guy that, hey, you draft is a veteran and you can pair of a young player with does Jake areotta fit that mold? Yes and no. I mean there were a lot of warning signs last year that kind of told you he was done. And how much of that was attributed to him being hurt as you mentioned, just him getting older? I mean he's thirty two years old now, Um, he's you know what, he's turning thirty three tomorrow. Greg. I just realized March six is his birthday.

So you know he pitched to with three nine six ear a. Last year, the indicators were right there in line. I mean, the strikeouts were waded down. Yeah, you know, it was seven point one nine strikeouts per nine. The swinging strikes were abysmal. This swinging strike was seven percent. I mean league averages like right around ten percent. I mean the past two years about this, from like his heyday back in the Cubs, he's gone from eleven point one percent to ten and a half percent to eight

point seven percent in twenty seventeen. Last year, his first year with the Phillies seven point eight percent. He did get better in terms of command. He started throwing more first pitch strikes. He also started getting more groundballs again, I mean the groundball rate was all the way up to a fifty one point six percent. I owned him in the Points League. He wasn't so bad last year. Uh you know, he would go deep into games. He was a little bit of ratic. He he was inconsistent.

But the other day in a spring training start, he went three perfect endings and had four strikeouts. This is what we talked about like watching spring training and it's not just like you overreact. All, well, you know what, we all got a draft area to now, Like, no, let's watch a few more Jake Areata starts here and see if this becomes a trend. Like let's see if the swinging strikes are starting to come back and the deception is coming back. And maybe maybe he was hurt

last year. Maybe it's because he was signed so late, and you know, he didn't have a normal spring training last year. Maybe these are all things that he can have a bounce back season. Cole Hamil's right, we're talking about the renaissance last year with Cole Hamil's maybe Jake Aritta could have something like that this season. He's a name that I want to pay attention to throughout spring training. I don't want to react too much. I haven't just

outside my top fifty yet starting pitcher. Can he be one of these guys that was your question. I think

he can. I would say it's less than fifty percent likely as of now, but that percentage chance could creep up with every start that I see brought spring training, where he starts getting more swinging strikes and starts getting more strikeouts again, because that's something that has been lacking from his game the past couple of years, Greg, and I want to see if this is something that could become a trend and something that he builds off of going into the regular season. All right, so we're are

you watching throughout spring training scene with Jake Ariation? You know what Els has my attention to? No one's talking about well, I mean for different reasons. Mattison Bumgarden has has my attention. His teammates some margin, Greg, that's some margin. I know, Yeah, that's exactly right, Greg. But you know what, you know what Ariota His a DP is two four team right, Yeah, let's let's get guess Jeff some March's ADP right now, right, because everyone is exactly like you

head in the hands. It's over for jeffin margin. He sucks. Are you trying to do this last year? Guess his a DPE Nope, Nope, fight eight, Greg. This guy is free. He's nothing. You get him for nothing. I mean, he's an end of your bench, like even if especially if you're playing a deep league, if you're playing it, and only especially, he's a hundred and fiftieth pitcher off the board. The velocity has bounced back during the spring. He looked great yesterday. I pick. I mean, he's another name that

I'm paying at attention to during the spring. Greg, Why can't Jeff some margin be like these guys that we're talking about, to give you a hundred eighty innings pitton of a four e r A. These are all the guys that we're talking about, right, Why can't you give you a hundred and eighty innings pitched in Oracle Park no longer a t and a hundred eighty plus innings four e r A with under strikeouts, with a decent whip. If you need an innings eater, why can't you have

some RT do that? And he's going to pick four one hundred and fiftie Pitcher off the board. He has my attention. I'll leave it there. Did you give his year last year for the Giants? He was hurt last year? You like barely pit He sucked six innings all right? The year before he only had a four point four two years? How are you giving the year before that? The indicators should much better. It's true he was three point six zero x fIF isn't that wouldn't that be

something that we're talking about this year? There's more just steaks, dude. How about his sixteen when he was three eight one ear A Greg great three eight one e r A in the nationally West Great seventeen that year where he had a four point four to e r A, he had a one point one four whip, Greg, A one point one four whip is more in line with it.

An e r A like his EARA indicated. If you have a one point one four whip you and you have a four point four ear A, you got on watching you flat out got on, so so be That's fine. I'm not saying that you have to draft him in the same range as are yet. It's not even close. I just pointed out to Ariet is going pick to fourteen, Jeff, the march is going pick eight. If you want to talk about using spring training to see if a guy can bounce back this year and give you anything, Jeff,

some Markin is the guy to watch during spring training. Yeah, I'm I'm good. He's going pick for eight. Greg, he's free. Even that year where he had a four point four EARRA in seventeen, his hard hit rate was thirty percent. Greg. You know what I man, I don't tell you to strike create thirty three percent. Chase right kind of sounds like all these other pictures that were talking about who are inside the top forties, so be the I can't,

I don't, I am. I'm gonna draft him on the end of all my rosters this year, not one of them and two of them. And if he sucks and I'll drop him, it's fine. He was my last round pick coming keep de Bryant for like nine weeks, and he would have been great with He would have been great with New Orleans. Greg. You know it, it's just like Brandon Mark. Why do you hate him so much? He's not good? It's like there's like a Baby Sharks song now too, so we can actually like he has

like a names um. Why do you hate Jeff? Some Marco to let me go to how do you have him rank? I gotta move them up there. I don't think I do have to put it in your eye. I haven't ranked have him seventy four again, I don't believe it him there seventy five starting Jeff. I don't think I haven't. I don't have a rand draft him, drafting him everywhere. I don't think Floria and I right, don't be like Grege like me, he ranks him. He's right behind lance Lynn. Remember last year at this time

he was everyone's darling before he got hurt. And now you're getting to pick free. Um. I want to go to the Colorado guys, not her mom Marquez, but specifically Johnny, Johnny Gray, and Kyle Freeland. I think you have to talk about him. I think they're going around this spot. I never do the Colorado thing. I think it's just you call. You're asking for a disaster. I know how good her mom Marquez was. I understand how good Kyle Freeland was. And I owned John Gray for parts last

year in the second half of Florio. It said you should do it, and he's like, I think you should do it. So I did it and it worked out for a while. But I think Freeland, what's Kyla Kyle Freeland going. I think he's going around here. Man, he's going to pick one sixty three surround. Let's figure this out right now, Like, let's do some math. You're going pick four six, He's going to pick one sixty three.

The average under eight case per nine last year, over three walks per nine last get a two point eight five r A his X fit was four point two two. He's going to pick one sixty three and it itches in Colorado. I don't want lean. How about you look in the same division and you get someone who's going three hundred plus picks later, who pitches in a way better ballpark, who's basically the same picture, even he has way better control too. So this was Freeland was a

roundball specialist whose groundball rate went down last year. He got lucky with his left on base percentage, which was hit two eight five bad pitching in Coors Field, and his EARRA indicators were much higher than his two point eight five ARRA. And there's a picture going three hundred picks later. Who pitches in a pictures ballpark? Who's going to give you more strikeouts less walks? I don't get it. Should you have him right behind Jeff so Marja? I

mean I have them closer than other people do. Kyle Freeland for me is sixty four. I mean I don't want anything to do with him. Some Margins having four, they're in the same tier for me. Myris ten spots Man, he had a two a five year alist. What about his team Johnny Gray? John Gray, I recognized the upside a little bit more, and he's sucks John Greg Kyle

moving down to fift. No, now you're in on John Gray last year and you had my back and we're yelling at about at Floria about how bad John Gray is. I don't think how you like John Gray? John Gray? Do you what do you like John Gray? I don't know. Man, Just list all the reasons why everyone else likes John Greg close playing an x FIP league. He has a career three point five for x FIT although he has a career four point six five year Ray. That's why

I like him. That's why everyone likes him. How about you read out his career sixty eight point nine percent left on base percentage, Greg, He's never been able to pitch with guys on basse. Ever, yess what when you have guys on base, you know where you're gonna give up? More hits, horse Field, anything else, anything else? No, no, no, he's gonna start singing. What does he have anything to do with John Gray at all? But unless he's dating even as a Carlton, which I don't think he is,

probably not. He used to have some long, luscious blonde hair. Yeah, I mean seriously though, Like I understand why everyone likes John Gray over a strikeout for anying for his career, under three walks for night for his career, like eight percent round ball right, like the tarn is there seen strike create last year? I mean, that's ridiculous. That's higher than Nick Pavetta. That's where it's always at too. He was getting a head more in the count last year.

He was throwing more first pitched right. I understand, Like, seriously, I know I bashed John Gray a lot. I understand why people like him, But I've done the John Gray thing. He always leaves you wanting more. Oh waits, Maybe this is the year he puts it together and pitches to those peripherals. I don't know if it's gonna be on my team. He's going late like he's a seventy first pitcher off the board according to the NFBC. That's including relief pitchers. So pick two oh one. You know what's

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Number one. Number two Dave Gentleman may probably gave you my headache, is really not may. It was a Only an imbecile doesn't keep a Louis Luis landon Collins knowledge. Why because you know I'm an idiot. That's why you'd rather pay Eli Manning twenty three million Dolarge and Alex Ogeltree more money is they're older. I guess that first gave me the headache. And then Louis Severino, the eighth

of the New York Yankees, has right shoulder discomfort. These are going great, Frank, Yeah, we obviously don't have much news about it right now outside of what you've mentioned. He's going to go undergo evaluation and undergo some tests and they're gonna find out what's going on there. But look, we're already worried about guys like Kershaw because he was hurt throughout the Spring night and Fulton Evite because he was hurting. Andrew Heiney. I told you I lowered these

guys down the rankings. I'm not going to react to prematurely here, but you I mean, if you already drafted him, you have to be at least somewhat worried about this shoulder, especially you know his right so ler it's a throwing shoulder. You have to worry about this when it comes to Luis Savorrino, so obviously super worried here for fantasy purposes for the Yankees, real life purposes here, but you know, if he is going to miss any time maybe you know, starts a season on a DL or anything. A lot

of people who have been banging the drum. Uh for Domingo Hermon as a as you know as Yankee rotation depth, he has a lot of swinging miss stuff. He's looked good during the spring. Uh he was you know, he was a guy last year who had the peripherals too. Uh So, look, I think we have a little bit more focused on a guy like him now. If you draft Saberino, maybe you draft Domingo Hormon as well, or even Jonathan Loazaga who has pitched well in the spring.

And uh, you know, the Yankees farm system a little bit more depleted now than it has been in years past. But he's their top rank pitching prospects. So there's a few names to pay attention to if you did draft Savorino, if you plan to draft Savorino, it's rough man. We've already you know, we've already had picture injuries and now we're we're just getting another one. So we'll see what

the tessa. But it's definitely concerning, definitely holding my breath. Now, we had we had thirteen starting pitchers who were like that top tier and if anything happens to in then we might be down to unless right there. Okay, um, we're kind of going by a team that by team, but like I'm trying to pair it off, and it brings me to this will your last days talking starting pitchers?

Tomorrow we're getting relief pitchers. So I wanted to get the Astros guys because you talk a lot about the Astros and Berlindr and Cole the other day, but what about everybody else? Right now? Dallas Kigo is still a free agent, and while there is still a chance the Astros do resign him, there's well three more fifths to this rotation. In those three fifths as of now, include Colin mqugh, they include Wade Miley, and they may include

a guy like Brad Peacock given Josh James's injury. Now there's a couple other guys that are fighting for a spot that being one of them. But we always want the Astros guys because they're well, they're really good at starting pitching. Yeah, no one's talking about Colin mq or Wade Miley or Brad Peacock or Valdez and seemingly anyway, Frank I asked you, where are these guys going and

are you interested in any of them? Alan McHugh for sure, because we've we've actually seen him be a starting pitcher before with the Astros and actually be really good. I mean, if you remember, we gotta go back a little bit, but two point seven three e r A and a hundred fifty four ending starts with the Astros, he was kind of the start of like when they were figuring out how to like develop every starting pitcher that came

their way. He regressed a little bit, but still at three point eight nine ear A and then you know, last year he was only in the bullpen. They kind of used him as like a multi ending weapon. We call it that mean cap or nine up over eleven one A. The xfit was three point two six. But definitely has my attention. Collin McHugh, Uh, definitely a guy that has my attention here. Um he you know, he throws the fast but he throws the fourth seamer, He throw the cutter a little bit. He threw a slider

twenty four percent of the time. That's really the pitch that he's developed. And I've heard people talking about this is that he's actually worked with Brad Peacock, Uh with the within the organization developed a slider over the past two years, yards seventeen percent of the time last year percent of the time, and that was as mainly as a reliever. So now he has a new weapon that he's bringing back to the starting rotation, which I think

can ultimately help him out. The swinging strikes were way up last year as well, So definitely Colin mqugh has my attention. I have him ranked in this tier with you know, with John Gray and a lot of these other guys that were talking about Tyler Skaggs and Arietta. I have Colin m q at fifty five. Um, definitely has my attention. Definitely a guy that I'm paying attention to the other guys like, I think mqugh is firmly

entrenched in the rotation as of right now. UM, I think they kind of might mix and match a little bit. For the rest of these names, here, Greg with with branber Valdez, who had an elite groundball percentage last year seventy percent at the major league level, but he's consistently been over fifty percent in the minors. He be like a strike out for any kind of guy. That's what he has been struggles with command, but definitely gets a lot of groundballs. And then Wade Miley is in the

mix here. Um, he's he's pitched well in the spring. Small sample size, another name to pay attention to during the spring. Let's see how way Miley kind of progresses here with the Astros. But everything the Astros have touched has turned to gold greg So Wade Miley, Um, you know, he pitched well last year. The peripherals say that he was very lucky with them with the Milwaukee Brewers, but

he's had success in the past. These are kind of the guys that the Astros have taken and turned into something. So Wade Miley going super late. I mean he's not going to Jeff some marginally. Actually he's going one spot ahead of Jff margin here you go sixty six, He's going very late. That's kind of value the guys like end of your draft. Take a stab here. Uh, you know,

Wade Miley co MQ, you definitely have my attention. And I think they're gonna kind of mix and match the fifth between Valdez and Pacock and Josh James hopefully once he gets healthy. I mean a lot of people were excited about Josh James, and rightfully so, I mean, he's got some filthy, filthy stuff, but now he's dealing with the injury and they really don't have many reasons to rush him. And then we haven't even mentioned, you know, their top pitching prospect, Forest Whitley, greg who had the

suspension last year, who everyone's talking about. Everyone's trying to find who is this year's Walker Bueller. Who's the prospect that can come up and pitch, you know, and maybe a hundred hundred twenty innings and really be dominant at the major league level. A lot of people have thrown Forest Whitley's name out there. So if he performs in the minors and they don't have anyone who's necessarily cemented that fifth rotation spot, arce Whitley could be a name

that comes up. So if you have, if you have a minor league spot on your team, which in my home league we have two minor league spots, so I'll use you know, one of my later draft picks on minor league players Forrest Whitley definitely definitely a name to pay attention to because if he's pitching well, absolutely he's gonna be up in the road tape. Absolutely. The the Ashers are his team. You always to follow the astros of the team that continues to produce starting pitchers. Don't

think ultimately leading your draft. It's where you want to potentially take a stab. Continuing on jumping around here, just some pictures that interest me. I want to get to Marco Gonzalez and I want to get to Luke Weaver, two guys that are both former Cardinals prospects, both had

high pedigrees. Both no longer pitched for the Cardinals. Luke Weaver was well kind of with James Paxton last year, kind of like Mike Clevinger, a shamed Weaver like these were guys, a guy that everybody was in on, drafted as a top thirties starting pitcher. He was. I didn't draft him anywhere. I worried that he was only a two pitch pitcher, and he was. That's why he got bombed, bombed away. He says, he's added a pitch. How's his springbank,

how's his spring been? He pitched? Yes, take he allowed one and run. I believe he had. He had three strikeouts in three endings. Pitch only one and run allowed. He's worked on a curveball, and I know you've read the article. There's an article on the Athletic Again, this is something he's are There's a tangible change out that Luke Weaver is making where you know, he's got one

of these machines. It's like a Trevor bare or kind of machine where like he throws curveballs and they tell him, you know, how good the curveball is, how much spin rate it has on him, like what he needs to do better to make that curveball better. So he's making a conscious effort here to develop a third pitch. We already know the fastball can be solid hour to change up is really his money pitch, but he needed to develop a third pitch. So if Luke Weaver can develop

that curveball. Um and he was being drafted as a top thirty starting pitcher last year, Greg, I'm with you. I'm kind of buying the hype. Yeah, definitely definitely some post hype sleeper appeal here. I have Luke Weaver ranked as as my sixty one starting pitcher again in this tier. I mean a lot of these names, I don't know if we gets all of them. Just because there's so many like to mention. But a Zeus Luzardo with the Oakland, A's a lot of people. Think again, if you're looking

for this year's Walker Bueller, it might be him. Julio your Ryots, I think he's in this range as well. Joey Luke Casey, who has pitched very well throughout the spring, showed us some flashes last year with the Padres as well. Alex Reyes with the Cardinals. I don't know any anything he's gonna go hundred ten. They could be really really good endings. Do you mean, Nelson? I mean, and I just I want to load up on as many of

these pictures on my bench as I possibly can. I don't know if I want these guys to be like my in my starting rotation. That's a reserved for some of these other guys that we've talked about a fantasy rotation. But these guys, I don't know if I want them in them like rounding out. But I trying to take as many stabs on these guys on your bench as you possibly can. One day that you really have loved that is above these guys, is Marco Gonzalez, Well, I

don't mind being in my rotation. Who can be like that six starting picture. I think he's a I think he's he He's a stabilizer in terms of ratios. I tweeted this out last night, Greg Drink. The difference between Marco Gonzalez and Miles michaelis really not that different at all. Besides, you know, the e r a is are drastically different,

but the underlying numbers not so different. Marco GONZAOAZ had a four point zero zero e r A, but he had a three point five nine x FIT, a twenty one percent strikeout rate, a four point seven percent walk rate, nine point three percent swinging strike rate, sixty six percent first pitch strike percentage, and he got people to chase thirty six percent of the time. Is an ADP of

two eighty two. Now Miles michaelis remember remember what I said, He had a two point eight three ear A, So I mean he was far superiors to two point eight three versus four point zero zero. The xfit was three point six seven. It was worse than Marco gonzazz Is eighteen percent strikeout. Miles michaelis worse than Marco Gnzoz three percent worse, three point six percent walk rate. That was a little bit better than Marco nine point six percent.

Swinging strike rate marginal difference, it's basically the same. The first pitch strike percentage better for Miles Michaelis he passed on strike zone for sure. Swinging strike rate thirty six point six percent. I mean, it's zero point seven percent better than Marco Gonzalez. They're the same starting pitcher. A do not miss a lot of bats. They are E R A and whip stabilizers. They are not gonna walk guys. They are control artists. Uh, they're not gonna blow you away.

I do think that Miles Michaels can take a step up this year in terms of strikeout right, kind of like what we see here from Marko Gonzalez with the three percent strikeout rate better and I kind of made Marco Gonzalez a seven point eight right around eight strikeout per nine kind of guy. I think Miles Michaels can make that jump. But they should not be going nearly two picks apart. They're basically the same guy. I mean,

I think it's a little Seattle Mariners bias here. Everyone thinks understanding if you think about it, he pitches in safe Coo. I mean, I don't even know if they're called Safeco anymore. I feel like they might have a new name. But it's a it's a good part to Picchion. The underlying numbers are basically the same. They're going to picks apart. I'm a big Mark marka Gonzalez fan. He's inside my topt. I believe I have him as my fifty four I know I have him as my fifty

three starting pitcher. If I can ass my my their sixth starting pitture on my team, rounding out my fantasy rotation, I love it. Um. Do you want to Jeff Felix Nandez as well? No, all right, let's go to the draft him Umber, Let's go to the four four eight four three six seven nine eight four four three six seven nine. Lets of our buddy Stephen in Massachusetts. What's up, Steve? Hey, Greggy, Frankie,

what's upthing? Like? Guy? How I'm doing all right? I know that you guys are talking about breakout and sleep A pictures. So what about Costolo? I know everybody was big on him because of his uh he throws the heat and Ariathon and he kind of he kind of struggled himself, like his record kind of steak and he was eating and he was just getting alive in the majors, and I think, what was it twice Like the end, he kind of did something at least respectable. Should we

go after him next year? Are should you just wait and see what he does and then again buy him. Yeah, So for Luis ca see, we spoke about him a lot yesterday with Matt Modik as well. I mean, people are still kind of buying into the hype. He's definitely considered a breakout starting pitcher. I don't disagree with you. So he definitely he fits this mold. But people are still in on Luise Castile, like you're not getting him as much of a discount as some of these other

names that we're talking about. He's still being drafted as a top twenty five starting pitcher this year, so you know, people are still buying into what they saw in that second half when he started using the secondary pitches more with the slider and the changeup, and you know, you referenced that. I believe it was like his final thirteen starts or whatever, he had like a two point six three e r A, like he was very dominant down the stretch last year. I just I don't know if

I trusted enough to take it. I think that's basically the easiest way to put it. Greg Like, I don't. There are people who love Louise Castile. They're gonna Louise Castio truthers and he's gonna end up on their teams. But I really want him as my SP three. I don't know if I could pull the trader. Yeah, I don't think still either. Yeah. I mean, you did it

last year and it sucked. And if you won't go back and watch it or listen to yesterday's episode, I mean Motica gave you a bunch of reasons why people should buy back in on Luise Castio. And I respect Modica a lot. A lot of people do, and there are a lot of people who feel the same way as him. I think Luis Kisti is one of those most polarizing players. It's you know, you either trust it, you buy the stuff, or you don't. And yes, just hearing myself talk about him, I might come out closer

to the side that doesn't. Yeah, I think ultimately, ultimately it's gonna be a preference, right, Like people have gotten burned by him in the past, like me, are just gonna be less app to take him someone that wants to buy last year's trash. I get it right, Like that's something that you Modica wants to do that maybe did not get burned by him as much as I did.

So I mean, maybe look in your home league if people are forgetting about him a little bit more and you' get him at your SP four SP five, at that point, I'll take the plunge. Like you know, if I if I have three legit starting pitchers and you get them a little bit later, and like your home league or or something like that, something you play out with your friends. Definitely, like if I get him as my SP four SP five,

I can do that. I just I don't know if I feel comfortable with one of with him as one of my top three starting pitchers. I agree with you. Can I ask you guys about another guy? Yeah? Stuff? Uh what about Marta Stroman if you get if he ends up getting traded to like a good team, because I know he's like a groundball pitcher, like like he did he didn't have that that strikeout upside. I think as a costolo, but I think he's like one one more on one of those groundball guys. He kind of

stucked last year too. Uh, just stay away from him as well. He definitely sucks. He didn't kind of suck. I mean he definitely sucked. He had a five point five four e r A. But the underlying numbers greg here. I mean the fifth and the x fit were both below four. Marcus Stroman is a better pitcher than what we saw last year. Would rather that Marcus Stroman or Aaron Sanchez to the rankings. I do like both guys. I have Stroman at three, I've stay at seventy seven.

I like both guys. I think I like Stromman a little bit more. He's he's shown me a little bit more in the past. He Look, he was flat out brutal last year, but you know, sixty two percent groundball, right that is, Look, he was hurt. He only pitched on a hundred and two any like, that's not Marcus Stroman. You know, when Stroman's on, I'm gonna pitch to a sub four e r A. You're gonna get a lot of groundballs. Yeah, this problem has always been he doesn't

miss enough pass he doesn't get enough strikeouts. To mitigate his walks. I understand that he's much better in points because he gives you the volume as it s P six, you know, in that range, take its town. He's in this range with a lot of these guys, right all right,

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come on, what's happening? So is it Rhonda Rousy fighting Rebecca Quinn versus Ashley fleaar? Is that is that the main event here? You're a little more fired up about this. It's stupid. It's just stupid. Or if I watched it, I'd be there with you. I don't know if you'd feel like I do. The main event. It's Brock Lesner versus Kolbe Lopez, anything else you want to get off your chest. She would be united for the billionth time. Does that mean Degeneration X is gonna come back there

in the Hall of Fame? Is w end Bill coming back as well? I don't think so. Like every couple of years and just bring all these factions back. The shield is very much back there facing dude. All right, it's got starting pictures with fifty minutes ago. Um, so I want to bring it down for you. The last names. There's a million names on here and if you want more you go to Frank's Patreon. It's all going to be there, and unfortunately you do have to pay a

little bit to get down. He's not asking you for much. It's a very reasonable amount if you want his help to do everything inside your draft. I know my buddy Jerry was here and he wants it. Frank's like, sure, give me your email, but really I need you to give me likewi dollars. That's what he's asking for twenty five dollars a month, and you get exclusive access to Frank at all times. He's legitimately forced to respond to your text messages. So please pay it's twenty five dollars.

I'll help you through your draft. I did ask me we have a draft the same time next Tuesday night as my draft. So I asked if I paid him twenty five dollars what he would do. He didn't really have a response to that, So that's interesting. I got some bathroom breaks. I could probably work in there. Your text messages, you have no choice. Of course, I pay you money. You have to do it, but you don't want to know. But if I pay you, I'm paying customer. If I don't pay, you can go with my taxes.

Um if you want to pay less. You just want access to his rankings that it costs like ten box, So that's like, it's obviously the cheapest draft passage. Well, as you see, I'm still finalizing my pitchure ranking and they constantly change the cool thing about Franks doing, like every time we talk about it here he updates it and you don't. You don't get old rankings ever. On the Patreon Frank constantly updates them. Um, so it's ten

dollars a month. It's costing nothings. That cheap was draft package you could possibly get, and it's well worth it. You don'ta pay a little bit less, you get a little bit less. I wouldn't recommend paying less than ten bucks and all, honestly, that's how you get the most. It's a ten dollar range is probably the most bang for your buck unless you really need Frank's help during the draft, and you should pay this twenty five dollars for the best bang for your box, probably ten dollar range.

And being honest, yeah, I've I've offered. Look if I'm home doing nothing while you're drafting, or if I have any space or second, like, I'll face time you. I'll FaceTime you during your draft. I'll answer your question like live what if you have a draft going on at the same time, bath and break? But if I demand a FaceTime, I want it. Yes, I will help my

paying customers. Greg, alright, figure it out. I'm just saying. Look, I mean during our craft, we have we have three people that are available to drive to meet you and Floria sharing a team. I have my other draft, I have my other draft happen, right, So at least Florio's around, it's fine. And if it's during the auction, then you're around. Yeah, definitely definitely around. Bff's got my back. Are you're not? You're not dangerously worried though during what could happen if

you just let me go? I am extremely They're gonna come back to like Wilmur, Flores and whatever other scrub you can find, Cedric Mullins and no Jeff s Martin, Greg We're getting Jef some mart He's a dollar he's a buck bash Hunt, he's a buck bash. Who's your buck Bash? We'll get Luke Weaver. We we gotta get Jeff s Martin. Gotta out a piece over Flowers Is that's the man. There's there's a lot of names here

to get to. I think we should like we should both highlight like five names that we haven't been mentioned to get on the show and just kind of like get as many of these players on your bench as you possibly can because they have upside kind of guys. I want to start with Alex Rays with the St. Louis Cardnos, who's the name we haven't gotten to yet. Obviously he missed it was all of last year and

miss year before Tommy John. He's a four top prospect and it was probably only way winning work of the year a couple of years ago before we got hurt. He is electric. As long as in the starting rotation, which he looks to be, he's worth drafting man. And that's Alex Rays is awesome. I want Alex Rays. We should talk more about Alex Rays. Yeah, I do have some concerns over the endings. I don't know how many. You know, Look, he's coming off major injury last year.

He tried to come back, he got hurt as well. Um, I don't know any anyings. They're gonna let him go just flat out, like it might be a hundred, it might be a hundred and twenty. Like I personally, I wouldn't expect more than a hundred twenty. I think that's like the aggressive side of things too. But they could be twenty really good endings. I mean, this is a guy again, electric fastball. He has you know, breaking stuff which is you know, high into the upper eighties. Um,

the strikeouts are gonna be there. Like, there's a lot to like about Alex Rays. I just don't know how many innings he's going to give you, So for me much more of a Rhodo play. They maybe like a head to head categories kind of guy because for head to head points leagues. We haven't really talked about this much this year, but we hammered it a lot in

the past. Is you want guys that are for points leads, that are gonna give you volume, Like Rick Porcello is a guy that finishes, you know, inside the top twenty or twenty five every year in points leagues because he gives you two hundred innings and you know, he doesn't give up a lot of hits and I mean he doesn't walk a lot of guys, So um like volume is more so key than like per ending her start kind of stuff like the rich Hills of the world, the Alex Reyes like Julio your ryas, Like these guys

might not give you a lot of innings, but they're better for Rhodo because when they do pitch, they're gonna be really really good. Totally agree with you, totally agree within you want to a stab or at least one of them, at least one of your look very good. Just Alex ray asked, like, take a shot on one of these guys, the dividend is can be just massive in my opinion. All right, who do you got, Frank? I think Jimmy Nelson there's a name worth bringing up. And I know I feel like we were going to

ask dr Ay. Maybe we didn't get to him. I think we got to the list and we gotta get Jimmy Nelson. M hm, yesterday. So it was a starting pitcher probably, mm hmmm. Gardner doesn't sound right, Bolton Vitch, Well, yeah, well I was he asking with him. Savorno now too. It's gonna be a nice little picture episode with Dr Ray on Thursday. But Jimmy Nelson. The last time we saw Jimmy Nelson, and you know, again, I don't know how many innings he's gonna go. But the last time

we saw Jimmy Nelson healthy, pretty pretty damn good. And you know that was in seventy five and a third and he's pitched that he had been coming off three years in a row. He had gone at least a hundred and seventy five ennings. Again, I don't I don't know what endings are gonna look like for Jimmy Nelson. It might be dty, might be undred forty. But I mean that year in seventeen, he finally became the picture we always wanted him to be. Three point four nine e er a the case for nine over ten, the

walks per nine, two point four six groundball rate. I mean, he's just hammering all everything that I want to see from a starting picture, getting strikeouts, limiting the walks, getting a lot of groundballs. The ear right indicators were right in line. The hard hit rate was thirty one percent, the swinging try create was a career high that year,

the chase rate was up. I mean, Jimmy Nelson finally came into his own and I really hoped that he can bring back some of that magic that we saw in seventeen, because if he can again, you're talking about these guys paying off major dividends here. I think. I think Jimmy Nelson is another one of those names that fits right in the UK need a picture that they

can rely on. You saw the playoffs. The didn't have any right so worth out I mean once a game seventy yeah, so worth out totally fine, but they could certainly use an ace and Jimmy Nelson was suppos to be that guy for a long time for this team, got hurt, never made it back last year. But Jimmy Nelson, if you can stay healthy and find that rhythm that he had just a couple of years ago, I think

he's a good late round pick for you. I'm up next year, Frank, and I want to bring up guy what we're talking about before, and that's Vinnie Velaskaz who always has been able to strike people out, always walks into other people, but every time you want to cut him, he just gives you that good start. I like Vinnie vlaska Is. I like him a lot as well. I mentioned I heard this shout out to the Fantasy Baseball

Today's podcast from CBS Sports. They mentioned that Vince vlaska Is is working with a mental health coach to try and help him calm down a little bit because he gets so amped up when when pitchers are on base. So that's something that he is working on consciously here. So we'll see, like if that can make the difference. Like he's always he's always struggled with. You know, once guy's get on base, he just walks more guys. He

gives up hits and stuff. But he has elite you know, we've seen games where he gets like fifteen strikeouts, you know, mid nineties fastball, A legitimate slider there. With Vince Vlaska's, he's a had the stuff. I mean, you have to worry about with the with the command, but there's a lot of moving parts with Vince of Alaska's. But I do think the talent is there. I just gotta find

a way to put it all together. I'm gonna throw another name here out there, and it's a name that we saw last year kind of burst out and we didn't really know anything about him. It's Joey Luke Casey, who kind of throws this weird I don't even know what to call it. It's like a changeup, but it's kind of has like earth break too, Like it's a really really weird pitch, really unique pitch, and worries me a little bit because he really only has two pitches.

But I mean, this pitch that he throws is like nothing that we've really seen before. I'm telling you, it's like a really really unique changeup that he throws here. He's basically this fastball changeup. But he's looked good in the spring as well. He pitched well yesterday he was up over ten strikeouts per nine last year, this to a four zero eight e er A not great, but the three point four or five experts says that he

was a little bit unlucky. I mean he had a twenty point four per said home run, the flyball ratio pitching in Pecco, in in San Diego, so a little bit unlucky there. Joey Locsey is is a guy that I don't want people to forget about this even Yeah, I actually moved Joey lu Casey up my rankings before we started the show because Florida, I'm like super super low, and I thought it was a mistake. I think he proved last year. I haven't met sixty, and I think

that's that's the right spot form. I think he's a suitable starting pitcher, and I think um that he's certainly worth mentioning a guy like Joey Luczy. I want to bring another guy that we've talked about briefly. You're gonna laugh at no, and he's much worse than that than Jeffer. And it's a guy who loved last year he was terrible, and you're gonna yell at me the second I say his name and that's Zach Godly because the the fifth and the extra and the underlying stats are all very good.

But Zach Godly has no control at all. And we saw it in spring training retty he was in mid season four. But if he can get things under control, probably be pretty good for you. Okay, it's not gonna happen. That looks Zach Godly burned me big time last year. I watched a lot of Zach Godley. Starts. This guy throws his curveball. Here, I'll pull it up for you. He throws his curb ball forty point three percent of

the times. He gives his curball like fastball, Like he establishes the strike zone when his curb ball, probably with a curb ball kind of heart spot. You don't really know where it's going half the time, Like yeah, you don't want to be a strike, but you know, he throws it so much, and he like falls way off the mound, like towards first base, Like there's a lot

going on with his delivery. I watched a lot of Zach Godley, Like all of his pitches are basically breaking pitches, Like he doesn't have a legitimate like he throws a sinker, but he really throws like a cutter a lot of the time as well. All of his pitches have cut to them and have moved bent, and it's hard for him to throw them for strikes. Hey what you're saying, Greg, Like, if you could get the walks per get back closer to like the low threes, than maybe he can pull

this off. But the walks per nine were over four last year, and I think that was a product of people saw him in and they realized, Hey, this guy only throws breaking stuff, and hey, the time, he doesn't know where it's going, so I'm just gonna lay off it. And that that happened a lot last year with Godly he fell behind accounts and then he had to throw what you would you know what he calls a fastball right into the middle of his own and then he

gets hammered. So there's just there's too much going on for me. Like I understand, the strikeouts are there. If you just want a strikeout picture late in your draft shirt, I mean, you can get him for that. But I think he's gonna hurt your ear and whip quite a bit. Another guy, I know you're terrem You want another guy who's very similar, but it doesn't strike out as many players that but walks an Eton. Who's that Sean Ncombe. Nobody wants Shawn Nucomb. Nope, he went super late in

my great Fantasy beat like nobody wants. He was awesome in the first half last year. He went around twenty two. He went like one pick ahead of Freddy Peralta. He you know, he was going very late. And this was a guy who was awesome in the first half last year in Shawn Knucombe. But just the walks are so worried him and he just doesn't strike out enough guys to mitigate those walks either, like eight point seven eight walks per night, like three point nine zero ear A

the Fit and x Fit both over four. It's like there's just not There wasn't a lot to like about Shawan Nucam once teams like started figuring him out. His first pitch strike percentage. We've been talking a lot today about you want people to establish that strikes on up over sixty percent first pitch strike percentage. This is one of the worst I've seen. Fifty three point nine percent for Shaan Nucam. I know you brought him up. Yep, he's not a guy that I'm talking. I don't know

I'm talking either. I just think it was an interesting name. He isn't interesting, that's all, just someone that catches my eye when you look down the rankings. I'll throw another one your away. That's Michael Pieta, former Yankee Great Michael Panieta. Uh. And now people were a little bit excited about his start that he made the other day where the velocity

was up, and rightfully so you should be. He's always been a guy that has pretty good stuff, and like he was always talked about in the same conversation as Robbie Ray where the peripherals were so much better all the time. He would get a lot of strikeouts, but he would always have like an over four ear a because he pitched Yankee Stadium and he gave up so many home runs. Well, target field pitching in the Al Central.

He's not gonna face the same type of competition that he was before, and he pitches in a little bit of a bigger ballparking here coming off Tommy John, I don't know how many anyings he's gonna give you, but he's now like a year and a half for like two years removed from Tommy John. So I have a little more faith. Maybe he'll give you like a hundred thirty forty innings pitched. He's always the talent, has always been there. I don't think that's a problem for Michael Panida.

So I'm watching him, and you know what, I'll also throw his teammate in there and shout out to Florida. I know he just wrote something on his patref on about him. You know, sign up for my Patreon, sign up for Florio's Patreon as well. Uh and and you're gonna think that You're gonna think it's gross, Greg. Remember the name Martine Perez. The texts sucks, right gross? Apparently the other day in spring he was throwing ninety ninety

seven miles per hour, whereas in his career. He's like, so, could we have another Charlie Morton on her hands here with Martine Perez name to watch, name to watch during the spring. If he continues throwing plus here throughout the spring and he's kind of he's figured out a new level. You know, he's reaching back and he's throwing throwing a little bit harder here, maybe we have another Charlie Morton

on our hands. One more. One more team I want to mention before we wrap this up, and that's the Dodgers. We talked about rios like the Rich Hill. Obviously, Clinton Kersh loves these guys, though, the problem is you're not getting the Medica good price. In my opinion. Besides those guys, myda strippling engine riyou they all go at like they

all go decently high. Actually like higher than anyone that we've talked about to this point, not everyone, but higher than like this tier that we've talked about this segment. They consistently go higher than though. I mean they're gonna they're all gonna pitch because they can just have so much debt. Justice Sheffield another name, Justice Sheffield will throw him out there. Aaron Sanchez for sure has my attention. Pay attention to him during spring Michael Former I I

tweeted an article last night about Michael Fulmer. Trevor Williams is awesome last year holbout all right, We're Leavers are up tomorrow, Frank Staffel, I'm Greg Suspen. We will see you then, we hope

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