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Gregg and Frank's Quarterback Rankings

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Gregg Sussman and Frank Stampfl review their Quarterback rankings for the 2018 football season. They break down whether Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, Ben Roethlisberger, Jimmy Garoppolo, Matthew Stafford, Phillip Rivers and others are worth picking up for fantasy teams or if they should be avoided. #FNTSY #FNTSYRadio #NFL #FantasyFootball #Quarterbacks #QBRankings #RussellWilson #CamNewton #AndrewLuck #BenRoethlisberger #JimmyGaroppolo #MatthewStafford #PhillipRivers

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Fantasy best Friends Forever, Do to to Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do do do didna do Yeah? This as the Fantasy best Friends Forever here on the Fantasy Sports Radio New work along. Sorry Frankie Staffeld. I am Greg Sosman, channelman, Giman Man. Not much Greggy. Unfortunately went to the Yankee game last night and they lost. But your re grum well for fantasy Well, I wanted the Thankees to win ones it. That would have been ideal.

Ground goes eight something like that. But aside from that, shout out to listener watcher, I know he tweets us a lot. Constantine hooked me up. I saw that I tweeted. I was at the game. Come down to field level Section one twelve hooked it up with a beer. Now. All he has to do is by you a beer with a beer, no news, by you a beer now because we owe him a beer. An he buys his BFF beers and we buy him a beer. Listening you come to the studio, you buy me a beer, we

will split the air for you. Yeah. Aside from the outcome, the game was very fun game. Yeah, from like the seventh ending on it was me Cana, his fiance. I believe so you and your fiance his fiance You want to double day? Yeah, sp spontaneous double day with your fiancee. But it was a time. That's awesome. That's awesome, Constantine,

that that's cool. We look forward to you come in live in studio, take a look on today's show and really going forward, we realize what you want right and ultimately what you need and that's just straight up rankings and inside the Road to Experts exclusive bed package. When you use frankant Tank, you'll get Frank's rankings. If you want a Venmomi you'll you'll get my rankings. But we're also gonna go through them on the show live for you.

Give you the rankings, give you who are sleepers are at the position and simply have a debate upon it. That's what this time of year is for. We are officially in the middle of August, so which means we are officially in the middle of the draft season. I think, Frank, every weekend going forward up until the draft day, like I think I have a draft, Yeah, I would, except

this weekend. Yeah, ex so this weekend, That's what's right, one Monday, We'll got Mondays this weekend, so I have one this Monday that we have the g S t uh the next weekend plus Carton's draft, and then a week later is my home draft. That's and that's where I got going on. So literally every weekend through the beginning of football season, I'm rock and rolling, and I'm sure all our watchers and listeners are too. Yeah, that's exactly the point right around now. I mean every weekend,

like you mentioned, there's drafts going on. So you know, people want to know about our updated rankings, how we feel about certain players. That is basically what we're trying to do here. And we're gonna talk about, you know, tears rankings, which guy we have where, and maybe maybe a little bit of debate who yeah, and probably so. So today we're obviously starting with the quarterback position. Uh and and when we get you can get rankings and

debate and tears everywhere. Um, but we appreciate you watching us. We appreciate you given our rankings and our tears. Shot, we'll defend ourselves. And today we bring up with the quarterbacks. Tomorrow the running back wide receivers, and listen, if we don't finish uh here, we don't finish the position in a day, we'll do it in tomorrow, like no big deal. There's no pressure on this. Obviously, as breaking news comes,

we're gonna get to that too. So don't think you're gonna miss any breaking news because of our regular scheduled programming. Here we're all being said, Frank, what they started that they Saturdayday has to do with your quarterback in the Flex League. Actually, last season in seventeen, Cam Newton average eighteen rushing yards per game in his first five games of the season, sixty point four rushing yards per game

over his final eleven. Overall, finished first in every rushing category for QB's last season, his seven hundred and fifty four rushing yards was a career high so you saw last year they were a little hesitant to let Cam Newton run loose and really, you know, let him do his thing. But after those first five games, they really just said, alright, Cam your thing, go out there, be who you are, and he took off and from there on out he ended up finishing as the top five quarterback.

And I have him ranked at the top five quarterback right now as well. And they ultimately last year they kind of took the reins off him once they realized and deemed that he was healthy. This seems to me, Frank getting to Cam Newton, who is ranked as my fourth ranked quarterback. UM, this seems like the one year in in meanly a while that he's not banged up and bruised coming into the year. I mean, he's had some shoulder issues. I remember he had the car accident.

He went deep into the playoffs previously. It's not the case right now, like he is totally totally healthy. The body feels good. He's still pretty young, under thirty years old. I recognize there's new offensive coordinator, the new quarterbacks coaches, the turners have come in here, but Cam is probably still gonna Cam and when he is healthy he finishes as a top of LEAs five quarterback every single year. I don't see how that changes this year. He's still

gonna be the goal line beast. And I actually picked things from Canuton. Yeah, so I actually have him as my QB three. I moved him ahead of Russell Wilson as well. Um, and partially just look at what he did last year. He finishes the QB two last season. I mentioned the rushing yards. He still had six rushing touchdowns last season. Thinking about this, he only threw twenty two touchdowns last year. He now has the best weapons of his career. He did what he did last year.

That was without Greg Olsen for a majority of the year. That was without d J. Moore, who they just drafted in the first round. So now you give Cam Newton the best weapons of his career. And there are question marks with the offensive line. Uh, there's some injuries there. We know that they lost. They lost a big piece the guy that went over to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Let

me out here, Greg the offensive lineman. So um, yeah, so there's questions about the offensive line, but we've seen that with running quarterbacks that doesn't necessarily hurt all that much. Russell Wilson had a terrible offensive line last year, and while he had to run around more, that kind of led to more fantasy production. So I'm not really worried about that for Cam. I think he's in line for

a big year. Al Right, So you said you moved Russell Wilson down a couple of pegs consensus, Russell Wilson is h B two everywhere else, Aaron Rodgers is your number one. Aaron Rodgers number my number one. I don't want to kind of dwell on that. He's both of our number ones. And then we get to number two. That's where I have Russell Wilson as most of the fantasy community. Frank, you have dropped them all the way down to number four. How come? Well, I am worried

about this double Baldwin injury. Um, they say that he's gonna be ready for a week one, but you have you have to worry about that. I mean, look, he's not getting his repsin throughout training camp, and look he doesn't necessarily need it. He's been with the team for a while. He has a rapport with Russell Wilson, and I was excited about Doug Baldwin in terms of you know, he was gonna see a career high in targets. But

you take Jimmy Graham off this team as well. Now they have Nick Vanette, they have Ed Dixon, Tyler Lockett their deep threat. They're trying to talk up Brandon Marshall. Now I worry a little bit about the weapons. I still do like Russell Wilson. It's not like I dropped him, you know, outside my top ten or anything crazy like that. I moved them down a few pegs. I just feel like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, those guys are as safe as they come. And and Cam Newton I think has

a little bit more upside. Brian Schottenhimer offense worries me a little bit. So I just do think that when you're splitting hairs with these guys at the top, for those reasons, I drop him down a few pegs. I still do think he's an elite rushing quarterback. We know the floor that that brings every single year at least four fifty rushing yards in every season. Actually, at least four hudd and eighty nine rushing yards in five of six seasons played with the Seahawks. Um. The offensive line

should be a little bit better. I just have some question marks with the weapons there. So so I think one of the reasons that I have Russell Wilson UM ahead of Tom Brady was really there was a bit inconsistency, oddly enough from Tom Brady, specifically from week thirteen on. Let me let you know where he finished. Right against Buffalo in week thirteen he was twenty eight ranked quarterback.

He had nine point three fantasy points. In Week fourteen in the playoffs, he had eleven point three fantasy points, finished twenty second that week. In Week fifteen against Pittsburgh fourteen point seven fantasy points that was good for again twenty second, and then in Week sixteen against Buffalo he finished in the top ten, number nine, with just sixteen

point six fantasy points. I get why everybody loves Tom Brady because he's the goat, right, He's one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever do it and to ever live the The offense for the Patriots gets the red zone more than any offense in football, but he had more red zone attempts throwing the passing the ball, uh than Tom Brady last year. UM. Nobody had more attempts in general than Tom Brady last year. We had more passing

yards and Tom Brady last year. I understand all of that, but how you ended what you did with Russell Wilson kind of described why I'm interested in him. They need improve their line this offseason for the run game. You asked the d J fluker. But they obviously also signed Wayne brand to the long term contract extension. They realized that this is by far the biggest weakness of this team.

And yes, Doug Baldon being out hurt, but like there's this connection between Doug Baldwin and Russell Wilson over the past five seasons that I'm not exactly worried about that. Maybe he will will be back for Week one, maybe he will whatever, but I'm not I'm not worrying about that injury when it comes to Russell Wilson. And we keep hearing that Seattle wants to go back to the basics and back to what has worked in the past, and nobody's talking so much about running the ball like

they used to. They're talking about the competition and that's what they want to get to on the defensive side of the ball. All about competition, say with the wide receivers, the best player is going to play. The best player on this team for the last couple of years, regardless of any position, has been Russell Wilson, and that ability to rush for the four hundred and fifty yards he's

going to every single year. To me, he makes up for the fact that they don't necessarily give the red zone as much as Tom Brady does his ability to rush for a touchdown. Yeah, Brady's gonna get you your your plunges from the one yard line, no doubt, but I think you can count on Russell Wilson to do that more. Um So, I'm definitely gonna have Russell Wilson at two. In fact, to me, it's closer to put Newton over Brady than it is Brady over Wilson. I

didn't do it. I'm kind of gonna split the hairs there. Um So I have Wilson to Brady three and Newton four. Yeah. I respect everything that you said about Tom Brady, and people might have a salty taste in their mouth if they had him in fantasy last year. And look all the stats that you mentioned for him, the game by game of stats. They're all valid. But then look at what he did in the playoffs, right, Like, he's still

Tom Brady. Three thirty seven and three touchdowns against Tennessee's, nine and two against Jacksonville, five and five passing yards and three touchdowns against the Philadelphia Eagles. So I don't really have many question marks with Tom Brady for fancy to be honest, I'm probably not gonna own any of these guys. But like if Cam Newton or Russell Wilson were to slip a little bit, like maybe I'll take

a shot on those guys. But like Aaron Rodgers, where he's gonna go in most drafts fifth sixth round, Tom Brady sixth round as well, Like, probably not gonna end up with any of those guys regardless. Do you think the tier ends here because we both have the same four quarterbacks in some mored you so you were with me, that's here ends there? Yeah. I mean a lot of people have Deshaun Watson and that's here too. I don't, and we'll talk about that. But I don't have him

in the top tier. I don't. I I'm feeling more confident on him. I don't have him in the top tier. Stone I am feeling more confident on him. And in reference to where you're taking quarterbacks, you put up a really interesting poll about basically, what's your strategy with the quarterback? Do you take one of these top tiers? Do you take Andrew Luck who? I actually didn't like that part of the poll, and a lot of thing I explained to that in a bit um, do you take a

middle round guy or do you take or you wait? Wait, wait, and every fantasy expert and every fantasy analyst is going to tell you to wait, wait, wait, hell. In that poll,

I voted for wait, wait, wait. But and maybe it's just because we're in these quote expert drafts or high stakes leagues draft but you only wait to a certain point, like there's going to be value there and that's why, or flex league like I drafted Cam Newton, was the seventh round where I had basically my entire story lineup was filled outside of my tight end and my quarterback. Like every position was filled outside of my tight end

and my quarterback. So that's point like I had felt like I waited enough and still somebody in my top tier was there. So I understand why you're waiting for a Stafford or Rivers guys are gonna get to throughout the show. If there's value there to be had, I'm going to grab it. Like there's going to be that point to me where if Aaron Rodgers still on the board,

I don't care that he's a quarterback. The heat has gone that not hate for him, the hate for the position just goes too far, and I'm gonna grab it. And we saw that in the seventh round of our draft over the weekend, where I felt like we had hit that part and that's why I wanted Cam Newton in the seventh round. Yeah, and I actually really like that pick. I no problem with taking him there in

the seventh round. I think that's great value. Uh. The reason why I couldn't do that, and again it's roster construction, how you start your draft. I started my draft with three running backs, so from there on out, I was kind of playing catch up on the wide receiver position. So I was just loading up on wide receiver wide receiver on all the picks after that, hopefully trying to find like one of those mid round diamonds in the rough, one of these guys that could break out. I ended

up with like Josh Gordon Randall, Cobb. So so you have draft up. Now you rand up with Josh Gordon in the fifth, you took carry on Johnthan who I really liked in the sixth, um, and then we get to the seventh and you had I guess, only two wide receivers at the time in four running backs, which is a story line up. I mean, you have your story line up. We need three in this league. Um, so you're one wide receiver away from from your story lineup.

Essentially to me, like knowing exactly what you had said that draft ing that flover is gonna take Andrew Luck on the turn, which he did, and you're you really like Andrew Luck. I might have went with Luck there. I'm not a really big Randall Cob guy, for instance, I might have taken Luck there. That's that's all I have to say about that. Yeah, So the way I have it ranked, I have Andrew Luck is my QB five. I have Big Band is my QB six. A lot

of people are not that aggressive on Big Ben. But for me to get Ben Roethlisberger as late as I did and impair him with an upside guy and Patrick Mahomes, I have no problem with that. So I have Andrew Luck ranked as my sixth rank quarterback. I could be talking into moving him to five before we continue our rankings to get to the next year. I want to talk to you at eight four four, eight four, three six eight seven nine. I want to go to Mike in Philly. What's up, Mike? Hey? Are you guys doing

to day? Doing great? Man? What's going on? Hey? Are you guys high on Mari Cooper this year? Frank is much higher than I am on Mark Cooper, and Florida was the highest out of all of us. I'll be honest. I drafted him as my wide receiver one in that draft in the fourth round. Mind you, this was a non PPR draft. I think where he's going is adequate. Right like last year, he was an early to mid second round pick that might have been a little bit too high, but you just look at the pedigree, the

background of John Gruden. Every year he's been a head coach, he's had a one thousand yard receive. Everything that we've heard U until this point is that they're going to put Amari Cooper in the position to be this team's wide receiver one, to be the top target in order to succeed They're gonna move him all around the formation.

They're not just gonna keep him on the outside. I know that's something Michael Florio spoke a lot about, and that they're gonna move him before the play starts a lot to get him moved off of the team's opposing number one cornerback. And that's big because he plays in a division where he's gonna see Casey Hayward, where he's gonna see the Broncos corners as well. So, um, that's important for him. I think where he's going, maybe that three four swing, I think that's adequate value. I don't.

I don't feel great about it. I don't think it's like a steel I don't I think it's adequate. Let to be fair, when you said those Broncos cornerbacks obviously not what they want, were Radley Roby the other starting to other starting quarterback right now for the Brackos, Like one more call before we hit the break. We're gonna go to Shawn in New York. What's up Sean? Hey, guys, and I called yesterday running backs in my sixteen team

standard league. Um, I'm gonna call it today about you know, maybe some mid round receivers that I could start at, like a wide receiver three, maybe even two. I didn't know if you guys had any players on your mind, maybe I could plug and start on draft night rank so some mid round wide receivers. Look, I I waited on some of these guys. So just to give you an idea of who I ended up with. Like, I got Josh Gordon in the fifth round. That's the twelve team league. He's dropping a little bit. It is a

risky play, but there is some upside there. And then again, guys like Randall Cobb right around here, I would say it's like the late twenties, early thirties in my rankings. Michael Crabtree, Randall Cobb, Jamison Crowder, Emmanuel Sanders, who I feel like is being disrespected a little bit in drafts right now. Uh, some later guys, Robby Anderson, Mark He's Goodwin, Cooper Cup, Robert Woods. I think those are all you know,

solid wide receivers. You know, high end wide receiver threes who have a little bit more upside, who are slipping in drafts right now for whatever reason. And we've talked about these guys, but I still do like them. Couple of those guys I like in that same section, Robby Anderson, Devin Funcis, Markey's goodwin. A little bit later on Nelson Aghilor and Cooper Cup all guys in that middle round

wide receivers that I really really like this. Yeah, Mike Williams from l A two, I'm starting to warm up. I just rose him on my draft ward this morning. Actually, we take a break here, we'll come back. More quarterback rankings coming up next, like a great pass rusher. The Roto Experts will help you sack your fantasy football competition.

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That's the Roto Experts dot Com Exclusive Edge Fantasy Football Package promo code f n T S Y Fantasy Best Friends Forever Fantasy Sports Radio Network. We're giving you the quarterback rankings, your tears, your debates and your sleepers were doing this all week long, certainly not with the quarterbacks, but that is where we begin. Frankie. You you mentioned you have Andrew Luck at number five. I have Andrew Luck ranked at number six. We have both bought in

that he's back. He's healthy, uh, and he looks good. And I read a lot about Andrew Luck actually this morning, and I was reading how it's amazing though the guy playing his first game and seemingly two years picked up Frank's Frank Rice's offense pretty easily in game one. And I know there was not you're not like a game planning, but he looked good in that first preseason game, and you're completely buying that he's back. That's why he's number five,

because he still has a potential to finish his QB one. Overall, you're getting at the fifth spot, and in the expert draft, he's going you know, around seven round eight, which is I think to really tremendous value. Um you mentioned before as I gotta move away from Andrew Luck, and I know we talked a lot about him. Unless you done you want to add with him? No, I mean, I think we've laid it all out there. The fact that I haven't at qube five, I think just speaks volumes

how I feel about him. And I have him at six because I do have Deshaun Watson ranked at number five? Where do you have Watson? I haven't one spot behind. I have two spots behind Andrew Luck haven't at seven. Okay, so do you have another quarterback that's then Roethlisberger. You said it's in there. We'll get to him in a second, to um, but I have I have Watson at five, And the more I've read about him, the more comfortable an that he's healthy, like, he's fine, he's not wearing

a brace, he's moving around like normal. And I get all the negatives when it comes to de Shaun Watson right that, like the touchdown rate is simply not sustainable what he did last year, that he just cannot do it again. That's fine, But if he does, you want to own the Shaun Watson essentially right, like this is literally what you're banking on that he doesn't do it again. Yeah, I mean, just natural regression. I think that's fair to say.

And look, he was more prone to throwing interceptions in college. Who I get seven interceptions? His final year at Clemson. So I think that that's gonna factor itself into as well. Again, his rushing floor is going to help hancel out some of those interceptions. I just I worry about the offensive

line there too. I think it's absolutely brutal. We've seen how some guys that can help Russell Wilson, the mobile quarterbacks, but especially a guy coming off a torn a c L. Remember the Shaun Watson house now torn a c LS in both of his knees dating back to college. And you talk about a guy who's mobile, a rushing quarterback with a bad offensive line, Like, there's a chance that this guy and end up getting killed this year on the field because of you know, just the lack of

protection there. So I worry about that. Look, he still has DeAndre Hopkins, he has Will Fuller, he has two great wide receivers. The running game is a little you know, if he Lamar Miller, that's not your guy, Greg. So look, I just I don't trust that he's gonna be able to come close to what he did again last year. If you want to take him, that's fine. I think I just rank him honestly, I just ranked him this high because this is where he's gonna go and draft.

I will never take him where he's gonna go and draft. You just drop him like I have Lamar Miller. I'm never gonna take him. I don't feel comfortable dropping him behind guys like my QB eight is Drew Brees Kirk Cousins, like he probably realistically has more upside than those guys. I think he has a lower floor as well, like those guys. I feel much safer about the floor there.

I will admit that his upside is higher than those guys Big Bene have ranked higher because I just think here in a year out, he's consistent and he has better weapons this year than ever before. To like they just keep adding do they added James Washington, who they're talking up in camps. They still have Juju, Like Juju is better than Mark Tavis Bryant than a year ago, and he's going to see more targets like he was

incredibly efficient last year. Still has Antonio Brown, still has Levan Bell, has Vance McDonald, has Jesse James, Like the guy has weapons up the wazoo. He's finished QB eight in points per game three years in a row, and I think he has the upside to be better than than that. So I have Big Ben rank QB six. That doesn't mean you have to draft him ahead of Deshaun Watson. That's just personally, I'm gonna wait and then I'm just gonna take Big Ben because I like that

value more so. That's why I haven't ranked that way. So you're not for what reason, I guess, Like people have come out against Ben pretty hardcore in the past for the home and road splits. They were better last year, significantly better. He had sixteen touchdowns at home, op posted twelve touchdowns on the road. So it wasn't a big difference. What about yards per game? What about yards per game? It wasn't in total yards whatever you have. It wasn't much.

I could pull it up for you. But it wasn't drastic by any means. No, Like he was much more consistent weekend and week out. If you like him better as like your best ball quarterback, I understand that completely. But again, like the way I drafted in flex, I drafted Big Ben and then a few rounds later I got Patrick Mahomes, Like I love taking that veteran and then taking that upside shot, Like what what do you have to lose. You have the safe floor in my opinion of a big ben and then you have that

breakout ability from a Patrick Mahomes. Like, look at the weapons that Patrick Mahomes has. There's gonna be a lot of turnovers, but I mean, he has great weapons and he's gonna be able to rustle ball with his legs as well. So so Patrick Mahomes is ware for you. I have Patrick Mahomes eleven. Yeah, so I have Patrick

Mahomes fifteen. I'm concerned about the turnovers there. And I know, um, he's got this monstrous arm and I think people are really really excited about both him, uh and Jimmy Garoppolo. But I want to talk about Garppolo a second. But I do feel like we've kind of come in too hot with Mahomes a bit. And I understand you drafted Roethlisberger, you drafted Mahomes, two guys that are in your top twelve at the quarterback position, but neither guy that I'm

ultimately confident on. Yes, you want to hit on both, but Roethlisberger and the Steelers do tend to go in a shell on the road that they don't put up those monstrous numbers that they do. Um at home, I know we're looking at the quarterback, and we're looking at the weapons, and you see what the Steelers have and you see what the Chiefs have, and there's all of these different weapons, and you want to believe in the quarterbacks. So I do understand that, Um, but I think have

a quarterback spot. I kind of just want consistency. And maybe that's I don't wannestly laziness in my part, but I want to make it easy for myself. And we have so many decisions on a Sunday morning that I like the fact that I could just plug in a dude and forget about it. And I think there's something to be said for that. Yeah, that's fair. Um, that's why you know you drafted Cam Newton. You're gonna you're not gonna have to worry about that. I didn't draft

the second quarterback. If that's the way that you want to play fantasy football, you don't want to worry about like choosing your quarterback, because it can be annoying at times. I understand that, but I mean, I mentioned I won two leagues last year, just kind of like rotting the matchups. One league, it was big Ben and Blake Bortles. The other league, I had case Keenum and Jameis Winston once he returned from injury. So you can win with just

playing the matchup matchups at the quarterback position, Greg. Last year there was only uh, there was less than a two hundred yard difference between big Ben's total home passing yards and his road passing yards and sixteen at home two thousand and thirty five on the road, So he was he was much more consistent last year than people realize. And you know, look, people talk about Matthew Stafford, Philip Rivers. Oh, these guys are so underappreciated for fantasy purposes. They're compilers.

If you look at the end of the season, Yes, they might finish as a top ten, you know, top eight quarterback that year. But I've been looking at points per game, Greg, and that's gonna give you a better indicator of what they do on a weekend make out basis. You want to talk about consistency. While Philip Rivers and Stafford have they compiled the numbers their points per game, They finished outside the top twelve quite consistently. So you're saying that they are bus candidates for you this year.

They're not bus candidates, But like I understand more so why they're being drafted where they are. If you want to take one of Rivers and Stafford, like I've been saying, and pair them with a Jimmy Garoppolo and Patrick Mahomes, to me, that makes more sense because you have that, you have that upside of one of those guys flops. Okay, then you still have that safe floor of a Stafford or Philip Rivers that you can fall back on and

play the matchups. But last year I drafted, I drafted Stafford as my quarterback in one league, and I think three or four weeks into the season, I dropped him and I ended up picking Deshaun Watson up. Like, that's gonna probably happen more often than not. If you draft these quarterbacks who are not runners, guys who are gonna turn the ball over for a decent amount like Stafford Philip Rivers, you're gonna end up wanting to find a

quarterback with better upside. Anyway, You're gonna end up picking up a quarterback who is playing against you know, the Buffalo Bills this week or whatever other you know defense you wanna focus on attacking that week. Remember we were doing that weekend a week out last year, there was one week where I had Jared Goff ranked higher than Tom Brady and you killed me for I think it was against the Giants. I did, and Jared Goff finished with more Fantasy points. Did And I picked up Jared

Goff that week everywhere and I started him. And it seems like once the season starts more often than that not, that's how we end up playing the game is we're gonna pick up a quarterback and stream him against the best matchup. So why don't you just do that right away in the draft? You take like that safe quarterback if you want them, and then you take that upside shot. Because the reason I'll do it in a draft is because those two guys may not out anything right like that.

That Patrick Mahomes pick maybe brutal. I mean he may he just for whatever reason may not be very be fair. He was my second to last pick in the draft. Totally. Yeah, I'm not killing you for it. But you're asked me why I wouldn't do that? Why take a guy if the value is there? Again, I'm not spending up for the quarterback. I'm not but when he's sitting there in the seventh and eighth round, like, that's when I you know, honestly,

that's what I'd like to go at my quarterback. Yes, I could keep hiling on running backs, wide receivers, and sometimes I do, But as I look at my rankings, which I have right now, I really really would prefer one of my top seven quarterbacks. And I'm including Drew Brees in that, Like, I really would prefer to get

one of those seven. But even and then is going later than he ever has, so I don't really have a problem with that, right And so for me, like I have this tier and it goes from eight to fifteen, and if I don't get the next day, I don't wanna do that. But like I have this tier of eight for fifteen with Kirk Cousins, Matt Stafford from me, Roethlisberger, Um, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan and then you have Jimmy g

and Patty My Homes in that. Right, there's those seven dudes are in this tier, and I'm to me, they're very interchangeable, Like I'm all going for the same price. I think they I don't really care which one I get if I don't wind out with one of my top seven, I will literally be the last one to take a quarterback because I really don't care. I don't

know how to differentiate those guys. Like, maybe you can help me, but out of those guys, Kirk Cousins, Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, not Ryan, and then Jimmy Gene, Hattrick Mahomes are more of the high upside plays. Of course, how do you differentiate those guys? I think so For me. The reason I have Mahomes and I have Jimmy Garoppolo, and I even have Mariota ranked higher than guys like Rivers, Stafford, Matt Ryan is because again, I want to take shots

on those upside plays. Like like you said, if you're just gonna wait till one of the last rounds, you're probably just gonna take a shot on an upside quarterback. Are you gonna take a boring Rivers Stafford? Like I mentioned, yes, you might, you might. You might just want to. The past three years, Rivers in points per game, QB twelve, QB eight teen, QB six team. That's not what we

hear lately. What we've heard is, oh, every year Rivers finishes the top twelve, top ten quarterback because he's a compiler, but on a point per game basis like QB eighteen QB sixteen, Are you satisfied with that? Last year there were guys that we knew had the upside to break out, like a Carson wentz uh we didn't know at the time DeShawn Watson. But there are upside quarterback why not take That's my whole thing this year is every year there are quarterbacks that end up inside the top ten

that we didn't expect. Who are they're more of upside guys. They're not like the Philip Rivers, They're not like Matthew Stafford. Why not take shots on those guys? And that's why I have, ultimately Patrick Mahomes, Jimmy Garoppolo, Mariota ranked higher than some of these other guys because I do think they have upside, more upside than these others, and I'm

just gonna end up pairing them together. Stafford the last three years QUB ten in points per game, QB eleven and points per game, QB fourteen and points per game, Like, Okay, that's fine, but don't you want to try and find the next Carson Wentz, the next Deshaun Watson, one of

those quarterbacks. Instead. To me, when you take a Patrick Mahomes, a Jimmy Garoppolo, or a Marcus Mariota, I think you give yourself a better shot of finding that next upside quarterback rather than just wasting a pick on one of these compiling quarterbacks. And maybe it's because I think they're going so late, but like I really, I have really happened to like Marcus Mariota and Dak Prescott. I know

we mentioned this. I think those both those two guys are exactly the category that you're talking about, and maybe they belong closer to Patrick Mahoways and closer to Jimmy Garoppolo because I think those two guys really at the potential to finish the top ten quarterbacks. I think that we in a new offense from Mariota and getting Ezekiel Elliott back and des Bryant and Jason wentten out for Dak Prescott, I think this helps both of them and

I think both have a chance to be dynamic. And I know two years ago Mariota had this picture perfect schedule and and was great with it, and then two years ago, Dak Prescott firsted onto the scene, scored six touchdowns on the ground, then followed up scoring other six touchdowns on the ground in a year later. It was just the accuracy and the passing, which you question. Mark is both of these guys, but they both use their legs and if they could just you know, honesty, get

better as a quarterback. I think you're going to be wanting them and they're not costing anything right now. They are after that mid to your group, So maybe you're right, Like, maybe for me it's not the Patrick Mahomes, Maybe it's me taking a Roethlisberger and one of those guys, like I'm not sure, but I want to the only thing I could say, and I dealt with this last year

and it cost me. I'm not saying I was right by this, but I really really enjoy the plugging in a quarter just picking and plugging in and forgetting about the quarterback, not wasting family quarterbacks, not having to worry.

The only way that works is if you get an elite quarterback, doesn't it Yestely absolutely Otherwise you're sitting there and you're just like I will see and this year I think deeper and only before before you get into it, like I did with Kirk Cousins, Like I had Kirk Cousins last year, and I started a week in and week out, and even there were many times I sat here and you and Mike are just like, dude, like Kirk Cousins is fine, but like Jared Goff is better

this week, Like just pick up Jared Goff and stubborn Land Like no, I'm gonna just stick with our Cousins and gop outperformed him. But how did it work? That's the thing. How did it work overall on a weekend, week out basis on the championship in that league. But we can saw use Kirk Cousins as an example just because that was the one I brought up and that was the one I actually started so last week last year.

Rather Kirk Cousins finishes a top twelve quarterback, we're saying, right, one, two, three, four, five, six thousands finished as QB eight points per game last year, you'll be sixty year before and QB twelve, so very consistent. Pod. So that's why I was gonna say, I think this year more so than ever, while we have that top four group as the elite, I would say it goes about eight or nine quarterbacks who I think you can you can plug in and forget. And that goes about

Drew Brees her cousins. If you want to put to Shawn Watson in that category, because I do have him rank QB seven, you put him in that category, Andrew Luck and Big Ben. For me, big Ben is one of those guys I'm not gonna bend there. But Okay, so you're so you think, and maybe I have to reevaluate my tears. You think there's nine guys that you feel are plug and play guys. Everybody else is either a lottery ticket but a guy that could really perform well in surprise people and a guy that is just

you know, fine. Is that next year for you? I guess I think that's fair to say. I still have I have go Roppolo, Mahomes and Mariotta still inside the same tier, but I guess they don't really fit that criteria in terms of because if I draft Jimmy g or Mahomes, like, I'm going to have another quarterback and I'm gonna end up playing the matchups again what I did last year. You just while it takes up two roster spots. You just play the matchups each week with

one of these guys her cousins. Look, you know the weapons that are there. I think he is one of the safest quarterbacks what he's been the past couple of years with Washington, and to come over to Minnesota, I think Drew Brees is gonna bounce back with some positive

touchdown regression as well. The reason I set up the poll the way it is, Greg is because I think Andrew Luck is kind of the break between tears, and that's what I have for me is it's the top four, it's Andrew Luck and as QB five, who I think he's just kind of like in a league of his own because there is risk involved, but there is definite upside. If I draft him, I do want an insurance quarterback behind him, and then it's kind of like those mid

tier quarterbacks are Roethlisberger, Breeze, Kirk Cousins. So I think you can plug in and forget, and then you get into that whole group of upside versus compiling veterans like Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers. So the reason I had an issue with your poll essentially was because you wrote Andrew Luck, and to me, like I have Luck, Breeze and Watson for me as guys that are in this uppert here

kind of what you're describing. But wouldn't you say that Andrew Luck is a little bit better than those guys though, Like the only reason why he's not in that first tier is because he's coming off injury, definitely, But he to me, he's like his own tier. You know, he's that guy in the middle round. So I don't think so, because, yes, because Luck is coming off injury and that's a it was a major major and listen, all of a sudden

he may get weak and then not play again. And I understand that we are all super possible and Andrew Luck, and that's why it's my six right quarterback. And I'm fine making a fifth whatever. But I think Shawn Watson belongs there given what he did his rookie year and he's now healthy, same thing, and I know normal regression is coming. That's fine. And I think Drew Brees belongs in that tire as well, because it was one down here for Breeze one year, right, crazy saying that, No, No,

you're absolutely he was one year for reason. But the defense is still really good, definitely, but we think positive regression comes his way. I think he's fine, But the thing is, I don't think he gets back to thirty plus touchdowns throwing for all these yards. I think I think he's gonna get back to being serviceable like last year twenty three touchdowns. That's a fluke based on you know how many passing yards he had. He led the

league in completion percentage. He's gonna throw for more touchdowns this year, absolutely right, But the question is how many more? Like I could see him in nine range, which will make him a solid weekend and week out starter, but he's not getting back into that elite category for me. Eight four four, eight four three six seven nine. We love your feelings and thoughts and opinions on this. When we come back, I want to hit the next year the guys that you may not draft but may break out.

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time and great promotions for free prizes. Keep a lookout for Fantasy Factors free million dollars survivor contest opening about a week before NFL kickoff. Go to Fantasy Factor dot com. That it's Fantasy Factor dot com. Frankie, we've touched on really the top fifteen were so quarterbacks? Is there any one of those guys before we've gone that you kind of want to expand on? I think the love for

Jimmy Garoppolo, Patrick Mahomes. I actually just moved Jimmy Garoppolo ahead of Patrick Mahomes, and if I could go back and take him ahead of Mahomes this past weekend, I would do it. I do think that there's a lot to like about Jimmy Garoppolo. Look the second season playing under Kyle Shanahan in his offense. We swaw what Matt Ryan could do. And I'm not saying that Jimmy G is going to be an m VP candidate, but sixties seven point four percent completion percentage last year eight point

eight yards per attempt. To put that in perspective, Drew Brees led the league last season with eight point one yards per attempt. Jimmy Garoppolo average hundred and sixty passing yards per game. He was the QB six from weeks thirteen through seventeen. That's big time for Jimmy G. He helped some people win, winning the playoffs last year, win championships, and that was with him really stalling in the red zone and kind of learning on the fly. He only

had seven touchdowns in five games. He's going to be better than that. So I think given the offensive line that they have there and approved being offensive line, they drafted Matt McGlinchey, they signed center western richburg Um, they get Pierre Garson back as well. I think there's I understand the love for Jimmy Garoppolo. I have him ranked as my tenth quarterback, and I wouldn't mind if you came out of the draft with only him as your quarterback.

I think you could do a lot worse. Yeah, So I have Jimmy Garoppolo ranked as my twelfth rank quarterback, and I feel the same way like if I come out with just Jimmy G. I'm all right with that, and I'm actually going on the other side of you and that. I actually thought the love for Jimmy G would be even higher during draft season, like when at the end of last year, when everyone was sweating this dude, like people were talking about how he was a top five,

top six, top seven quarterback going into this year. And as people calm down and we got far away from last December, everything settled in and Jimmy Garoppolo, I don't know where he's average ranked, but everyone's kind of having where you and I do in between ten and twelve. Now, then this has Adventure's Boy, and I don't even know if he's drafted him this year, but Jimmy Garoppolo is

somebody that he's not a rookie. In just a few practices came on, it was finished as a top five quarterback all of those weeks, number six, whatever you said, and given a full season as a starting quarterback, given a full season practicing as a starting quarterback training camp with all of these guys. I think he's I think this guy is a limit man. Like, would it be surprised to me if he finishes in that Andrew Luxx you breest here, absolutely not, Like, this is a guy

that is not costing you anything at all. He went after Patrick Mahomes in our flex draft. This is a guy that I think you're getting now, very very late that absolutely, maybe even more so than Mariota and a Dak Prescott, has the ability to finish the top five six quarterback. Yeah. I think that was more so reflected in us playing in an experts draft that he got pushed down the board because according to Fantasy Pros ADP he's still going pick ninety. Okay, so that's a little high.

He's uh, and he's going as the tenth quarterback off the board. I have no problem with him being the tenth quarterback. Me personally, I would take Ben Roethlisberger over him, who, according to Fantasy Pros is going behind Jimmy Garoppolo. But picked nine, Uh, that's more so, and like what the eighth, ninth round, that's probably where he's gonna go. More so

in home leagues. But if you end up taking to Jimmy Garoppolo in that round and then a couple of rounds later, just back him up with like a Matt Ryan or something like that. Play the match ups with those guys. I'm just gonna keep hammering home that strategy. If you don't take an elite quarterback, which you're on record saying you want to do, and I have no

problem doing that. If you don't get Andrew Luck as well, just take high upside and take a veteran and kind of just play the matchups and look if it doesn't work out, if Matt Ryan starts a year and he sucks, you drop him and hopefully pick up another quarterback. Maybe you find the Alex Smith from last year, or you know the Deshaun Watson. You just randomly pick up a rookie maybe you know Sam Donald or someone like that

ends up breaking out, you don't know. So that's why, if you're not investing much in the quarterback position, you're take an upside guy and then you wait and then you just back him up with a veteran. That's that's what I like to do, all right. So the quarterbacks

that we have not mentioned yet um. As we go through our rankings and you can get Frank's Inside the Road to Expert's Exclusive Edge package using the promo code Frank the tank Um Roethlisberger, we got a new rivers Um Mattie Ice, you you said kind of boring like Matt Ride. Do you do you think that he takes a step back, some positive regression for him year to inderste scarccasion. Yeah, I look, I think he'll be better

than he was last year. You know, I was not a Matt Ryan guy last year, just because I think the price you had to pay for him, you were paying for his m v P caliber season. And if you look at Matt Ryan in his career, it's a lot of up and down. One year very good, one year very bad. I don't think he ever gets back to that m v P form that we saw. I

think that's kind of an outlier season for him. Would it surprised me if he bounced back and you know, snuck his way back outside the top twelve throwing for you know, thirty touchdowns with in the fifteen interception, it wouldn't surprise me. But I don't think that he has that immense upside that we saw from a few years ago. I think the Falcons defense is a lot better. I do think this team is going to get back to

running the football a ton of this season. So if you look at his care were he typically lives in that eight touchdown range. I just don't think he has that much upside. I have him ranked as my QB seventeen right now. He's right behind Rivers and Stafford for me. So the one the biggest name that we have not mentioned yet on this show is Carson Wentz. And there are people that believe Carson Wentz should be picked pretty early.

I know Jake's been all over Carson Wentz and how Sean Jeffrey for that matter, But I have Carson ranked Wentz after today's news, I have ranked Carson Wentz seventeen. Oh my god. Yeah, well I originally before the show started at like that, I dropped into seventeen because he's not healthy, Like I'm I'm sorry, he's coming at with torn a c L and it's now rush against the clock. And the latest news was that he's not not necessarily

going to be ready for a week one. And if you're telling me the quarterback is not necessarily gonna be ready for Week one. You're franchise quarterback. This is not something you rush, especially when you have a capable backup. And when we say capable backup, we mean a guy that literally won you the Super Bowl, Carson Wentz. The Eagles are not going to rush. Is Carson Wentz worth

drafting and holding and picking another one of these guys? Okay, fine, and maybe using your strategy, frankly, that's the right way to do it. Like, maybe you get this deal on Carson Wentz because of the injury and no one's into it, and you start a Jimmy Garoppolo or Matt Ryan for the first couple of weeks, then you get Carson Wentz back. Maybe that is a valid and fair strategy. But I think there's a lot more questions to Carson Wentz. There are answers, and I'm I just cannot safely say this

guy is a top seven eight quarterback. He might be when he plays on a per game basis. That might be true. But the thing is, again, we don't know when that's gonna be. We don't know if he's going to be ready in Week one. Look the touchdown regression. We know for a while that that was going to come down a little bit right, And and that's why I want to interrupt, because you you were the one that's pretty much all on saying listen to Shaun Watson.

Obviously a touchdown regression, and I think you have to say this anything about Wentz. Yeah, absolutely, even if he was a hundred percent healthy, you know, I wouldn't have him ranked ahead of Andrew Luck. I would probably have him ranked in that Deshaun Watson range again if he was healthy. But remember Carson wins toward his a C L months after Deshaun Watson, definitely, so he needs a little bit more time here. And again, you know, the only way the Eagles rushing back maybe is if they

get off to a slow start. I don't know that that happens given the defense that they have. They still have a ton of weapons on the offensive side of the ball. They have J G. I and really the coaching staff there, I mean, Doug Peterson puts everyone in a great position to succeed. So I don't know that they need to rush Carson Wentz back. It's for that reason that I have him ranked as my QB thirteen.

I have him behind guys like Jimmy Garoppolo, Patrick Mahomes, even Marcus Mariota again, Mariota to me is still young enough and has that upside in this group. I don't know that we've seen the ultimate ceiling from a Marcus Mariota yet. And this year you're getting him at a great discount because of what he did last season. People are baking that into his value. And I loved that. What you're getting where you're getting Marx married right now,

I think that's great. But yeah, I've dropped Carson Wentz down to QB thirteen. I just wonder Greg in home leagues, is that going to be reflected? Is it gonna be reflected in home leagues in people's homely like, is Carson went still gonna be drafted as one of those top seven eight quarterbacks? I don't think he will be. Maybe he will just be scared off by the intern. I think more and more so, more and more the news

that we're getting. I agree with you. I think he is gonna start to get pushed on the board, and I think it makes sense eight four four eight four three six eight seven nine. I want to go to Dylan in Texas? What's up? Dyaling? Do we have Dylan? Hey, wait, what's up? And not much? I just got a draft question. Uh, I'm going first overall in a twelve teen PPR. I'm gonna be taken gurly. Uh in the two three turn I've been I've been doing this strategy lately, just go

on three straight rbs. I've been. I've been in and up with Mixing and Howard. I really like those guys this year. I was just wondering if, I mean, do y'all agree with that strategy or should I be going wide receiver RB because there's so much wide receiver value in the middle rounds. I just don't really care to take like a you know, a Digs or Feeling or any of those guys. And that's like Mike Evans slips. I might take him, but I love the three kind of elite RB kind of thing going. So what do

you'll think about that? We'll say this is I agree with you that there's a lot of wide receivers you can find in those middle rounds. Hell, I just did it this past weekend as well. But I will say in a full point PPR, I think that's a little bit dangerous. I think with your first three picks. I have to come out of those with at least one wide receiver if you want to take you know, a Mixing or a Jordan Howard, whoever you like more for the PPR format in that second round, at that two

three turn, I think that's fine. I think you can start with two running backs, but I think to start three running backs in a full point PPR. Look, there's many different ways to win in fantasy football. You could definitely pull it off. But me personally, I have to come out of one of those first three rounds with a wide receiver, especially in PPR gread. Yeah, I tend to agree with you. I'm in my half point PPR

league and I was looking at it this morning as well. Um, and I'm looking at the first two rounds right and what I can do? And I have a leventh pick in that Um, and I I the signing. Do I want to do two running backs there? Direct? I could saying Melvin Gordon and Dalvin Cooke would just use as an example, Melvin Cook and Dalvin Melvin Gordon and Davin Dalvin Cook. Or do I want to go with the Julio Jones and a Dalvin Cook? And I mocked it

out this morning. And if I went with a wide receiver and a running back, obviously go in any direction in the third round. If I go with a running back running back, I have to be okay with essentially Amari Cooper being my wide receiver one. And I don't know that I'm willing to do that. And the other argument is, okay, if you draft running back wide receiver, who's gonna be your r B two? Because you have two stud r B two is going running back? Running back?

I have the perfect answer for you, Greggy. So the guy that's there consistently is Alex Collins. Who am I okay with that? I don't know the guy's What do you like more Alex Collins as you RB two or Marie Cooper as your wide receiver one, neither particular. You can't have everything great Fantasy football. You're right, and I can. And I don't know the answer, you know, And honestly, I don't know the answer to that question. Like I really would like Derrick Henry to be there, like that

would be ideal for me. I think you would be there at the end of the third round. I think it's I think it's possible, right, Like, so you would take Derrick Henry ahead of Alex Collins. I had Derrick Henry one spot I had about so I think that's like a personal preferencing. I agree. I agree, that would make me feel like pretty comfortable I have. And then you also have the rookies that are there that you're comfortable with, like a Royce Freeman. Is a rby too? No,

probably not. It's not terrible. I mean if you have that anchor right, like a Melvin Gordon, as you, Lady one, we both trust Melvin Gordon a lot, so I guess so you could take two two wide receivers in round two and three and then maybe take Royce Freeman in the fourth. So then the answer to that question, I know we're wearing up quarterbacks for the answer to my question is gonna be, what's then better? Do you draft Melvin Gordon and Michael Thomas or Julio Jones and Dalmin Cook?

Which combination is better to you? I know it's personal preference, and I get that, but I don't know the answer. And a half point PPR it's very tough. That is a close one. I mean I think you'd think on it. I have a month, Yeah, I've I've already drafted a team where I have Julio Jones and Dalvin Cook, so I'd probably lean that way. You know how much I like Dalvin Cook and as consistent as Michael Thomas is.

I guess that's what it comes down to you, right, Like consistency verse upside, Like Julio Jones can be a league winner for you, definitely, but he can severely outperform Michael Thomas. But Melvin Thomas is gonna give you a safe floor every single week. Melvin Gordon gets could I know I'm not Mr daln Cook. I love Melvin Gordon. I think he could really outscore Dalvin Cook pretty handily myself.

So you know, it's it's figuring out which to you like better ultimately, And I think that's where my leagal Who's the top on your draft board? Though, when it came Melvin Gordon verse Julio Jones, I'd probably take Melvin Gord. I would take Melon Gordon also, So then just take the best wide receiver available, maybe Julio Jones there in the second. You don't know he won't be that because

I talk to that person every day. It's his birthday today, so Russ having birthday, having birthday, watches and listens every day. So we appreciate Gordon Michael Thomas, not Um finishing up or quarterback conversation Frank. A couple of quarterbacks we haven't gotten to that I think are worth mentioning at least um specifically Jared Goff and Alex Smith two guys that I happen to really like this year. I think Jared Goff is a natural next step a lot of people expect,

and Alex Smith. Everybody Washington is saying, this is the best quarterback we've had here in years. And I get Kirk Cousins finishes a top ten quarterback. You read, you read, you read where he finished over the last three years, and they think Alex Smith fits them better. His fourteenth year, he could do a little bit of everything from throw it deep to be consistent across the middle to a guy like Jameson Crowder or dump it off to a Chris Thompson. So I like Alex Smith, and he's gonna

be a guy that's not gonna be drafted. He's someone you could pick up probably any given week. And remember early on in the year he was number one, he was King one for the first five weeks of the season last year. So I think there's some love with Alex Smith and the Jared Goff thing, along with Mitchell Robinsky. I think it's easy. I think you're just looking at a guy that's still improving as a quarterback and as a fantasy player. I know people think the Bears will

break out. That's why they like Dr Whisky and Jared Goff playing a good rams offense. To me, I think he's a perfect streamer. You probably don't need to draft him. That's why I have Alex Smith ranks ahead of both Golf and draw Whisky. Golf is closer to the tier above him than the Goff Drobisky tier. For me. Yeah, so I have Goff and Alex Smith back to back. I have Golf at eighteen and Alex Smith at nineteen.

It's not really a knock on Jared Goff. I just think the QB position is so deep this year, and you know there are guys ranked ahead of him who have done it before. And Jared Goff finished as the QB twelve last year. He was fine. I just think he's all system quarterback. Brandon Cooks is there. He does have better weapons. But remember the defense is also a lot better this season as well. So are there gonna be games where they need Jared Goff to do all

that much? Maybe there's more games this year where in the fourth quarter they're just kind of like grinding out the clock with Todd Gurley or whatever else. The you know they want to throw back there. But I mean, I like what you said about al Smith. I the thing is, I don't know that I can walk away from my draft with like him as like my QB one.

I think he's a very fine QB two. Maybe he's the insurance policy you're looking for for your draft, and Andrew, look me personally, I just can't walk out of a draft with Alex Smith as I got a quarterback. Are there any of the quarterbacks, um that we have not mentioned on the show today that you feel, for whatever reason you did talk about, whether it's a Derek Carr, Jamis Winston of Lake Bordles, anybody come to mind for you. Yeah, like Jamis Winston as well. I like him more so

as a QB two. I think people are sleeping on him a little bit too much. It's just it's hard to swallow that three game suspension to start the year. You never want to get off to a slow start in fantasy football. So I understand where Jamis Winston is being drafted, but remember in a super flexile if you get Jameis Winston late and then come back and pair him with like a Ryan Tannehill, just start Tannehill those first three weeks and then you get Jamis Winston. Bag.

I still do think the upside is there with the weapons that Jameis Winston has. Another guy who you know, we've heard mixed reports so far in camp, but has the weapons is Case Kingdom. Yeah, we saw him do it last year. Now with the Denver Broncos, he has the Marris Thomas has Emmanuel Sanders. Again, he's more of like a super flex A two uh in a two quarterback league drafting messr QB two. I think those are some sleeper candidates they're going in the super flexi format.

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