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about We're gonna talk about the combine. We has a breaking football news man. Yeah, I heard Jason Witten said, you know what, I'd rather get hit by those big, strong guys than try and talk on TV anymore. Even my kids were making fun of me pretty much. It's an expression. Jason, Jason Witt and officially back with the Cowboys. Be interesting to see obviously who goes into the booth. But uh well, Jason Witt and Jim have fantasy value

next year. Oh good to anybody? Would you know? His talent even older and probably a little slower, he still has so much intelligent knows them the league so well. Absolutely you'll have value. Mhm. Jason went is a great suite from a man Shawn morash Our CBS. Witten just caught nine balls in a d forty five yards two touchdown against the Giants. Just now. It's kind of how it's kind of how it feels. All I had to do, all they had to do was returned and he already

had that amazing game against the Giants. Jason Witten's backage obviously the big story of the day, in a big story this week. But out of the combine gym, which is where I want to start, is obviously at the most important position, guys, and that's the quarterback position. That one number one story before Jason Witten was Kyler Murray. Was Kyler Murray coming in and what would he measure Would he be five nine? What did you get there? That's what the over under said? How big was his hands?

What were we gonna do? How tall was he? What did he wear? This is crazy, it's I mean, it's absurd, it's absurd. Ultimately, Kyler Murray weighed in at like to forty or I'm sorry two oh five, excuse me to oh five weight in after playing much of the year at he ultimately is height was over five nine, closer to five ten five. And actually I got to wait at two oh seven seven. You see I saw two five. How about that? So he gave twenty two twenty two pounds?

And how long? Couple months? Couple of months. I don't think that's possible unless you're doing a crazy workout regimen. You know what I mean. It's called McDonald's. Donalds will make sure you wait. You need to weigh seriousness. What does what does? Um? What is those metrics, those measurements due to Kyler Murray's draft status. Oh, of course it elevates it again, you know right now? Really what it

does is it plays right into Arizona's hands. Um. You know, there's a lot of speculation in Arizona wants to take Kyler Murray and and you know, trade Josh rosen You know, there's still a lot of people out there in the industry that you know, draft you know that scout these drafts that no more than I do, that I trust that still say Kyler Murray would have been fifth or six quarterback last year, which means he would have been

under Josh Rosen. Um so really plays into Arizona's hands because they're saying, well, look, everybody, Josh Rosenen is our quarterback for now. Is a perfect line because everybody out there is jumping jump and trying to figure out if they're gonna go for Murray or not. Which really makes this number one pick a big, big thing this year because you could see lots of people trying to line up and take that spot away and give away the mountain for it if they think Kyler Murray is going

to be the next back, big thing. And these measurements just played right into Arizona's hands. I mean, they just have it all sitting there for him right now. Everybody you know jumping up and down for Kyler Murray up, you know, and him sitting there, and the numbers come up better than expected. Man, people are gonna be going nuts over that pick. And that what's what's really interesting.

You alluded to it, Jim, that Kyler Murray might be arguably like the first quarterback on the board this year, and Dween Hassen's we'll get into a second, the second quarterback in the board this year, behind all these Desians, Chris, it was last year, behind Donald, behind Alan, behind Mayfield, behind Rosen. That's where Kyler Murray and and um jeweyt

hops Hoskins supposedly come in. You don't like Haskins. I don't like Haskins at I really hope that Giants don't take him, because you know, you talk about Eli Manning not being able to move behind the pocket. Why are you going to bring in another quarterback that's even worse than he is. He has no foot movement whatsoever. If his pocket collapses or if he has to move, he is worse than Eli manually at it, and I can't say that enough. I've watched his feet a lot over

the last week, and it's amazing to me. I thought he would be a good quarterback, somebody I could get behind, but after really watching him, man I don't like him. I don't. I really hope that Giants don't draft him. Really, I can't see anybody being slow. Oh yeah, look, go go watch some tape on him. Watch his feet. If the pocket collapses anywhere near him, he has lost done like that. I've pictured him more like a like a runner, like a Winston More. Oh no, he does. He doesn't

move at all. He is a pure pocket passer that doesn't like a move. He has more mobility and Eli very clear by this. Yeah, he around the pocket. Go back and watch the video, guys, I'm telling it looks like it. Maybe, I mean because he's big, you know. And we're back and look at Eli. When Eli was that age, and Eli moved better than haskin stunts, that makes sense. That was not well. That was that statute, Eli,

Eli meaning has always been a pockets statue. But Eli obviously had more athleticism mobility when he's younger as opposed to when he's older but old Eli, I'm pretty sure I cannot run much. But wait, wait now before you say that. Eli the second half of the last season had a much better half of the season because he was moving out in the pocket and did very well at it. Someone's say that. I don't think it gets because I don't think anybody expected that. I don't think

anybody expected him to run something. I'm telling you, I don't like man. If the Giants draft Haskins, I'm done. I'm gonna be coming that. That's who it looks like everybody's saying that they want because the Giants are very traditional and conservative and they'd sid once again. Yeah, no, I agree. Listen. I don't like the Giants philosophy of that, Like because the guy short, he can't be a good quarterback. Look at Russell Wilson, so that Kyler Murray is the guy.

I don't know the guy this year. If the Giants drafted Kyler Murray, I'd be okay with that. Um, you know, I would overhast. I don't like Haskins at all. I think he's gonna be a terrible quarterback. I don't even think he's gonna be a starter in this league. He's gonna be a backup. Wow. I mean, I listen, I don't know. I don't really want either. But like, I

wouldn't be upset if they took Murray, I wouldn't. I guess I wouldn't be upset if they took Haskins either, because I honestly just want to see more of these guys. I want to see them in the NFL. It's a whole different animal than college football. Obviously, they both died extremely well in college. This is why they're the top two quarters going. But what you said it before, it's interesting. Would Murray and Haskins go after all the quarterbacks that

were drafted in the first round last year? I don't know. I feel like Murray would get drifted ahead of Rosen and maybe even Alan. I don't think he would have Mann. Yeah, so dos Rosen. It's just that offense just didn't come together in any way, shape or form. Can look, we put all of it on Rosen, but we really can't. The offensive line was terrible, the offensive you know, system was terrible for most of the year. So we can't

put it all on Rosen. So, you know, again, most people that I respect are saying that Rosen is better than the draft class coming out now. And like I said, they put a lot more time and effort into this than I do, so I have to, you know, believe them. What do you what do you think, Jim? The odds are ultimately that Josh Rosen is not a member of the Arizona Cardinals. Would you take that bet? No? I

I think he is. I think he's gonna be there starting quarterback because they're gonna turn this number one pick into a massive payment because somebody's gonna want to pay for that pick. Somebody wants that quarterback badly, and Arizona is just sitting on the gold mine. I think they're gonna stick with Rosen, and I absolutely think that they're gonna turn this into you know, either two number ones or number one and a couple of number two's and

you know other things involved. I think they're gonna get a mass payoff for that number one. Kudos Arizona front office, because honestly, they are doing a really good job of really boosting up this Murray you know, uh speculation. Yeah, and you know, just making it just a guy that's just you know, going up the board. Now, obviously this helps boost his his speculation as well. Like you know, if it wasn't for all this, we wouldn't be talking.

It's all hype. Hype is what pushes people up the board. And he I don't really think he should be a top ten pick, but he's going to be because all this hype, and Arizona is gonna make out on this and end up changing there, maybe their franchise around because

of it, because they're gonna end up keeping Rosing. I agree with that, and they canna end up getting a lot of draft picks for that first round pick, and somebody's gonna, you know, take the bait, take you know, make the trade with Arizona, go to the first round and take Kyler Murray. I think that's gonna happen. At this point. The hype and it's keep coming. The hype. Training is still coming. It's it's getting gaining momentum after every day after this combine news with him being five ten,

any momentum. So once the you know, actual draft comes, I'm forget about it. He's gonna be the number one pick overall. I don't see anyway around it. You're hyping it so much that it's insane. Maybe maybe not number one, maybe a little after, but like Arizona is the team that's you know that basically throughout this bait that said, oh we'll take Maria one overall, and you know, get every everyone interested now trading with Arizona and all this stuff.

I don't know. I think that he's getting way overhyped at this point, way over hyped. Jason Witton making five million dollars for the Cowboys sin season a lot of money, a lot of money, and he doesn't have to have a microphone in his face. You probably won't even let him mike him up during the game admitting that he's gonna do a lot of blocking right after the next

seven the next six minutes or so. We'll stay off the Giants, But the Giants are part of the story because you're looking at people who are gonna take a Dwayne Haskins. He's gonna take a Kyler Murray, and a lot of these teams do try to be cryptic because

they're smart. The Giants have always played very open handed every single year, like you know who the Giants want going to the draft every single year, which was part of the problem with Jerry Reese and now uh, Dave get Himan is honesty while great for us as fantasy players um and as Giants fans, but in general this openness is not really great. But Dave get Him yesterday at the combine said, yeah, I really like the Kansas City model that that really works, and you need to

drift the quarterback in the first round. And while he won't force one, like, I really like the quarterbacks this year, and you're like, all right, the Giants are absolutely doing this, aren't we. Wait wait wait, so he said Kansas City model. He loves the Kansas City model. He said, so does that mean Kyler Murray? Well, it means a quarterback, It means a quarterback, But like Mahomes is a little is mobile.

He didn't mean Mahomes. He know he taking a quarterback tack sitting no, no, take a quarterback, sitting them for a year, under them and then starting them. Oh, you know, I love that model. Me and Jim have argued about this model multiple times on Frenzy. Uh I like sitting, having him sit under a year. Jim says, I think, you know it could work just by them starting right away. And that's true, it's happened before. But the experience, it

always depends on the player. It depends So some of these guys, I mean, they've never sat in their life. You tell them they got to sit for a year, They're gonna be freaking nuts. They don't want to sit. They want to be on the field, and heck, if I got to that level at that point in my life, I would have been like, heck, no, you ain't sitting me. I want to play, you know, And I would have made that clear in these interviews that he's doing today. Um,

you know, I'd be like, I want to start. I don't want to sit on the bench beyond somebody else for a year. Um, just the mentality of wanting to play that man. I know, not their control, but I'm pretty sure he'd be making that obvious. Nobody wants to sit, you know, nobody wants to sit. I mean, they want

to play obviously. Like you know, if you're not ready and you have a veteran quarterback that could still play the game, you know, ahead of you on the depth chart, and a guy who's been a long time like the Vagiants Eli, but there for a long time. One two super bowls deserves respect, doesn't deserve to be benched over Kyler, Murray or Haskins. Um. So that's not gonna happen in New York, you know. You know Eli going to that idiot Jets cast off. Yeah, that was just a terrible decision.

But you know, he'll probably be benched at some point in the season. I'm pretty sure he's not gonna do great. Uh. Even if he starts off hot and let's say we're winning games, that would be great. But at some point, whether it's week six, eight, ten, twelve, he's going to probably get benched for Murray, especially if we're having a down year again and we're rebuilding, going into that rebuilding stage. You know, sure it's gonna happen, but you know, we

could be a good team. That could happen, by the way, everybody team, by the way, Jason Witten, This because from Darren revel Jason Witten was the sixty nine pick in the NFL draft, finished his career previously with sixty nine receiving touchdowns with the career long of yeah, that comes. That comes from Darren Ravelle. Unfortunately the last two will go away because people have way too much time on their hands. For Darren ravel stat man, he looks for

the obscure stats. He looks he looks for stats like that. After um so, yeah, so there you go. That's it with the Giants, um and with Jason Witten. Over the next hour or so, we're gonna go over some of these top prospects. I know, Jim, you've been looking into them with look the wide receivers, the running backs, skill position players, and trying to figure out, um, what we know about these guys and where ultimately they'll fit, trying

to project what we're hearing what we see. One of the other big stories coming out of the combine yesterday was the fact that Oakland Raiders, uh Mike Mayock, who certainly was a draft analyst for many many years, Max come out and said, Hey, Derek Carr's twenty eight years older, you throw the ball deep. We're not in there for a quarterback. Chris, do you believe that? I do. I'm a Derek car guy. I I do think first of Alitia, he had even though you know he wasn't throwing the

ball deeper anything. He's doing a lot of checkdowns and stuff. But that's also based on the weapons. Again, he didn't have a ton of weapons. He lost Cooper at one point, and they do had like a I think a sixty nine completion percentage around there. Uh, so he could get it done. He I think he's a very accurate quarterback. He doesn't have a big arm. He's not gonna light it up with a canon like you know, Josh Allen or those guys. So the talent doesn't just sparkle like

other guys. But he's very efficient, he's solid, he's smart. I think he's a guy that is hungry and wants to get it done. Like the guy had no weapons, who is he supposed to do? He he did a lot on his own, and he had a pretty pretty damn good year. I think this is a guy that they should hold on to and build the future because he's not that, he's not old, he's at his prime. He's ready to go. Do you agree Jim that ultimately the Raiders keep Derek Carr and that it's the right decision.

I do think they deep keep Derek Carr. Again, we've been talking about it. These quarterbacks on most draft boards are not even you know, wouldn't have been top five last year. So why are you gonna dump somebody like car who's you know, not the greatest quarterback. But I had a decent year even like Chris said, without the weapons around him. Um, you know, if they do get

him some weapons. Here sitting at that fourth pick, they could easily take you know, one of these wide receivers whichever one is higher on their board, and everybody seems to be really up and down on these receivers. Who who's the top of who's not? Uh, so many different you know, variations on that going forward. So who was ever on the top of their board might be sitting there, well, definitely gonna be sitting there before, but it might even

be sitting there a little later that toy. I think we're gonna see some craziness at the top of his first rounds draft. Um the whole team. I don't think it's gonna trade out in San Francisco because I think they're looking at Nick both and they're saying, Wow, we need him, we want him. I know our defensive line isn't it isn't the worst. But here all the fantasy best friends forever. Right after this Daily Rhodo dot Com learned from the game's best DFS players. We don't just

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There you go. Let's get back into the combine stuff. And Jim, when it comes to the wide receivers, what are we looking for. Look, you're looking for a big, tall, wide receiver, big hands most often, and then you're looking for somebody who can make those big plays and fight freaking tested balls. And right now Yeah, that happens to me a lot. Not much I can do about it right now, someone's always they always seem to call between one and two, even when we were on a frenzy.

He st happening all the time. Makes me nuts. Um, But you know you're you're looking for those big play guys, especially early, and of course you know that means DK Metcalf and kill Harry, maybe even Kelvin Harmon, depending on who you you know, which one you're like the most. I mean Metcalf, everybody's going nuts off because of the pictures they sent out about his his body just being some freaking nuts. But you know what, personally, I like Harry a little bit more. I think, uh, he's just

better at contested catches. He's a little he's not as stiff as Metcalf seems to be. What hell are you talking about? Height? Do you talk about big playability and you talk about ends, But those measurements do they matter? These teams, like we've seen plenty of smaller you guys be very very successful. O A Junior is the first round pick. He's not exactly six ft tall. Um speed

speed is the other thing. So it's either well it's either you know, size, strength, speed are the tangibles, and then you've got the intangibles, which are route running ability. Um is you know, basically the person himself. I mean a lot of these coaches they end up meeting up or the gms, they meet up with these players to see how they are mentally. Like, you know, mental stability is important in the NFL, uh these days. So you know things like that route running hands, how good are

your hands? Uh, you're leaping ability, you're you know catch radius, Uh, you're agilitiy. So you do the cone drills for agility, right, things like that quickness Like Antonio Brown isn't big, isn't super strong, fast, but he the things that yeah, and that this is why you know things are saying out about him. Is gray hands, great concentrate, great route runner, you know, just all the little things, the intention as he does at the highest level possible, which makes him

an unbelievable player. Plus he's got the speed, the boot and the agility, the quickness all that. So he's not a big guy though, so you don't always need a big guy. Um. But those are the things you're looking for. I think these are the things you're looking for. Most I see the problem though, and this is what I

think Greg is trying to allude to. These numbers are all nice, well and dandy, but you know, for all the you know numbers, threshold numbers that they want to see, We've seen players in the past with numbers below all of those thresholds that have played great in the NFL. We've seen guys that have the numbers well over the thresholds that have sucked in the NFL. So again, it

comes down to heart. You know, a lot of the times, you know, who are these players and will they step up and perform when they get on the big field, And a lot of time, you know, these numbers aren't gonna show that. You can't prett Hopefully the meetings show a little bit of that, but that's what you got to work with. Speaking of wide receivers, Jim, whos really the best wide receiver in the NFL draft this season is? I do like Harry. I like Harry a lot to

Arizona State. I just I think he's real fluid, He's got turns his hips nicely, he creates separation pretty quickly. I think this kid is gonna be a dynamic number one wide receiver in the NFL and Sea Kill Harry ranked basically first or second pretty much everywhere out of uh Arizona State. A J. Brown's another name given. I mean, what do you like? A J. Brown? Obviously you know

sixty six? I love that, the measure of wrong, the measurables, um, you know, does everything well, had great stats in college. I mean, of course these things are going to be there because you know, and they compared to Judice Smith Schuster, which is you know, as you know, the thing with comed So the thing with Brown is you just mentioned speed and speed kills. Brown's never gonna run a four. I mean that that that's just not the kind of guy. He is strong though, He's a big, strong dude that's

just gonna rack up yach theoretically monster. He's gonna break tackles, you know, yeah, you know he has quickness and all that. If he could separate, he could do the the integibles as well. So you know you want that pad with a with a strong guy red zone targets. So you hope, you hope you can see a lot of touchdowns out of him, maybe even his first season. Who it depends on where he goes though, So we can't even talk about that yet, you know, I know, of course, of course,

where would a good fit for him? Now that's a good question, Jim. Uh. You know, there's there's a lot of teams that could use that kind of help. I mean, San Francisco we talked about them already at the number two pick, but I just don't see them going that early for a wide receiver when just conna see a lot of people out there saying that the value rounds here, rounds two to four, there's gonna be some great players in rounds two to four that are gonna be you know,

quick contributors to the NFL teams. Um, So you know it's gonna be interesting. Do they go best player available, which at number two is probably gonna be Nick Bolson, or do they try to go with one of these wide receivers that early. I just don't if they see it. But you know there's plenty of teams out there that could use help. Uh yeah, Colts definitely there. Baltimore of course, but you know at this point, who wants to sign with Baltimore with Lebar Jackson's quarterback. Sorry, I wouldn't if

I was a wide receiver. But you know, Buffalo definitely needs it. Um. You know, even Carolina could use another good, solid side wide receiver. So you know, there's plenty of teams that have that need. Jacksonville clearly needs a number one wide receiver. New Orleans A yeah, New Orkan. You know, there's plenty of gutting teams out there that are gonna be looking at wide receivers, but I'm pretty sure most of them aren't going to spend first round capital on

them this year. I think most of them will be looking in the two to four round region of these guys because there's plenty of mid range talent in this draft. Where are these receivers going? Are they going in the first round? So from what I've seen, A J. Brown is projected to go in the first round, but all these other guys Jim's right are mostly second to fourth round. It is kind of depending on who you like and where you like them. Um from Nikila, Harry Kelvin, Harmon

um Hem Butler. All these guys are second of four round, second to round four players. I think what's interesting is if you look at some of these UM, some of these rankings list like the best prospects of the draft. The quarterbacks aren't very high, which is really interesting. All the skill position players. This is a big offensive defensive line draft. Yeah, it's all thought of really good young tight ends here too. Yeah, I was reading the like

the best tand draft in a long time. Do you think that's another reason why though, that they're hyping up the kyl and Marty's and you know, hyping up some of these Why, Like do you think people get pulled up the board because this because I feel like it hurts viewership of the draft and just you know, the combine all this in general, because there's not influx of talent in the skill positions, and that's you know, those

are the sexy positions. Those are the positions that people want to you know that people gravitate towards it too, Like they don't really know all lineman in the d lineman as much they'll know the wide receivers in the running backs. Jim, I was just gonna say that the whole Murray and Haskins thing is gonna build up viewership on it. Everybody's gonna want to see what happens in those first five draft picks. Uh, hopefully first drive five, both of them going the first five because the Giants

are at six. I don't know. I don't want them taking Haskins. I can't say that enough. Um, if they, oh god, you'll get me like Frank was when they signed signed Adam Gaze as head coach. That's how I'll be about the charts, um, and so many other ways they could go, and I'd be much happier with than them going at But you know that there's all of this coming in together, all his talk right now, Murray

and Haskins, and that's gonna drive viewership. Everybody wants to know what's gonna happen with pick one in this draft, and those numbers are gonna be off the charts, That's what I'm saying. I think, like you know, it's getting a little overhype because they want to drive the viewership with that and they're using it happens every year, especially at quarterback. The quarterbacks always get pushed up the draft board.

Everybody says it's not a great quarterback class. These guys probably are, and even in the top thirty two, you know payers, and then they all go in the top time. Yeah, Well, like the quarterback class was great last year, so they didn't even have to like, you know, promote that, like you had five really good quarterbacks going now you had you have to really the one that really stands out as Murray because of all the flashiness that he brings

to the table and how little he is. But I think, you know, even what receivers get pushed up the board. I think I don't know if it was last year, it might have been two years ago when three war receivers got taken in like the first round, the top ten, and I don't think any of them were projected to go in the top ten. I think they just got pulled up the board, you know, because of overhyping all that.

John Ross was one of those guys. Mike Williams, I think it was the It was John Russ, Mike Williams, and Slory Davis. All three got drafted in the top ten and so far, you know, none of them besides maybe Mike Williams, because we haven't seen enough yet have panned out top ten. So guys get over hyped and get pulled up the boader. I think it's you know a lot of it is to is to you know, hype up everybody, not just the coaches, and you know,

the teams also just people watching. People just want to see it, see where these guys get drafted, and they want them to go early. They're their teams aren't drafting places to get people to watch, you know, and and and what happens, you know, it's supply and demand simple, it's a basic tenant of you know, all this stuff from times beginning, Supply and demand is huge. All of a sudden, there's not a big supply of quarterbacks to demand is bigger than the supply. And we always see that.

We always see that with quarterbacks. You said, have you guys have been talking about it. Each and every year is a terrible quarterback drafts terriblequarterbacks. Terrible quarterback draft and even more so than than then when you used to see they're going to get pulled up, they're going to go early. They're going to be players that ab we should not be top ten picks that are uh Kyler Murray certainly is one of them. Doing Haskins maybe one

of them. She was justin Herbert pulled out of the draft. You're just like, oh no, there's no good quarterbacks. And here we are with Murray and Haskins arguing, arguing, back and forth. You think should be the number one overall picking. That's what happens UM at the quarterback position. We've we've constantly said, guys, this is a big draft for offensive lineman, for defensive lineman. Jim you mentioned tight ends. Who's the

number one tight end on the board. Oh. I like Hockinson. Um. I think he's gonna he's gonna be a prototypical, you know, big fast tight end that creates mismatches. I like him a lot. I know a lot of people have no offense a little bit higher, But to me, I just think Hockinson is just gonna be it. Um. You know it's he's just got all the tools and I think, you know once and he really develops that edge as a blocker as well. I don't think he's coming off the field. T J. Hockinson and No a fan, both

two very very good tight ends. Both. I can see UM going early in the draft. According to CBS Sports, in the bec Christian Passo, he has he believes that it wouldn't be a shot that if t J. Hockinson goes as the first still position player off the board, that's how good he that's how good. He thinks hot could be quarterback, right. No, I mean he means even before the quarterbacks, depending he believes are better, he can't be.

He can't complete considering those quarterbacks, you're gonna go top five, correct. So let's let's say other than the quarter I think I think he might be you know, spot on there. It looks like Carolina Panthers where they have they have the sixteenth pick. That looks like a good spot Hockinson potentially. So if Olsen, you know, if Olsen doesn't come back right and you know, and then fans maybe a couple a little after that, uh, you know, Tennessee or something

like that. I mean, you got Buffalo that eats a tight end, Clay Cincinnati, Uh, you know, Detroit is another one, Jacksonville. It's a lot of teams that need a good tight ended tight end is a tough position right now, as we saw the fantasy once you got outside of those top three or four, everybody else and when you speaking of speaking of fantasy though, like you mentioned t J. Hockinson. We mentioned to a fan here and these are two guys that are awesome, right like Hackinson maybe the first

skill position player off the board. We just said, but rarely does that translate to sustained success in fantasy football in year one? Now, a couple of years ago, we saw it right like we saw glimpses o of O. J. Howard. Evan Ingram was a top five tight end. So there is president here. And obviously you can go back to Rob Gronkowski if you'd like, But there is president here. Is t J. Hockenson. Jim one of these players that

immediately could come in. Obviously we don't know where he'll be, but let's say Buffalo, let's say one of the Cincinnati. Is he one of those guys that can come in in year one and have some success in fantasy football like a Howard absolutely does. Um, he's got that kind of talent. Uh. I absolutely expect him to be a force right from you know, day one. Um, you know

he's gonna well again if he lands with the right team. Um, you know, if God forbid, somebody like Baltimore takes him, they only got seventeen tight ends already, but you know, something like that. But if he lands with a team that needs a tight end and has a decent enough offense, I think he's going to be a star. Yeah, yeah, I think so. It's youse. Why do you why is he right behind Hockinson? For you? What do you like not like about no Offense. It's not so much that

I don't like him. I think no offense is gonna be good. I just you know, I mean, we're talking about a guy what had trying to remember, like eighteen touchdowns the last two years Fryoa. So not nothing bad. Uh, He's I think he's gonna be a very good fantasy tight end and could end up being the top one in this draft. But from what I've seen in the tape I've seen of Hockinson, I think he's got Gronk like ability. Wow. Really he did have eighteen touchdowns. The

other one at ten. Well, we'll come back after the break. But what these guys played for the same school. Yeah, I came. Yeah, I meant to bring that up that how often do you ever see two Well it's Iowa, it's Iowa guys. This is style they play. Yeah, exactly, true. When we come back, at least they get them NFL ready in Iowa. When we come back. Who stopped running back on the board this year, Well that's George and Chris.

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it's him. He makes the group. I always say that, right, Like if you just right, all right, if you change all the members of Maxbox twenty and you left Rob Thomas as the lead singer, is he still Matchbox? No? But it's still gonna be the same thing. I mean, Rob Thomas became Rob Thomas if the Matchbox twenty and he still had hits, but he went back to Matchbox. What But like, here's an example, right, I forget the guy's name, but the dude from Panic at the Disco,

that lead singer whatever whatever his name is. Yeah, yeah, so they sing the song high Hopes, right right, All the guys in the band totally different than they were ten years ago. Wait, they're all together still. So they gave up a song this year, give me a new album last year? Yeah, because they their last good song was a while when I was in college, right, exactly ten years like ten years ago, give a take, right, everybody's different, But the lead singer really yeah, still Pack

of the Disco because he still wanted to sing. I guess they thought it was a good singer, and we should get him with better uh you know partners his bands. Basically the band broke up, and he's like, well, I'm still gonna I owned the name. I guess all three type stuff. I own the names. So we're still pack in the discount. But it's basically him and like background guys crazy. It took ten years, though I'm exaggerating with

ten years. It is. That's a lot. It really is, though it might be more like looking up on Spotify if it's like, because I graduated college in twenty two thousand nine, let's see, he's still freaking young, right, So where's there? Where is there good stuff here? Like two thousand two was the last good Yeah, I remember being in college. I don't even know these songs. Maybe he doesn't eat dude, let me see here. We tried two thousand six. Yeah, it was around there because I remember

as long as we should talk about anything excepted Dave. Yeah, I can. I invited you. I invited you on this program. I can certainly get rid of hot Lava. Yeah. So they're so their big song was I write sins, not tragedy. Hell, that's all yeah, five, that's the same. I knew it was around there because that was the same year that my favorite band came out with their big hit back country Event Sevenfold, and I was listening to a lot

of rocketdects, so I remember all that well. That was more like alternative, that was not metal really, I don't know. Packing of the disco reminds me like them in like Fallout, Bowing, Good Charlotte, and Good Charlotte are all the same to me. Yeah, yeah, they're all like punk rock alternative exactly, not really punk, but trying to be punking right, probably can't really sing very well. And then your full out boy was there came up sometimes exactly exactly Aby We're Going Down. I

actually liked that song. It was a good song, Sugar We're Going Down. They played it out quick though they absolutely didn't. Okay, let's get back to combine. Why don't listen to radio anymore? Contribute to the conversation. Um, who's a third years we've seen is that Q Elliott go the top five, Todd Gurley go in the top fifteen? Uh, sing up Barklay go number two? Overall? Who's still running back on the board this year? I like Josh Jacobs. Um, you know, he's just got a lot to his game. Uh,

you know, exceptional runner, exceptional pass catcher. Hopefully we see a little bit more out of him in the past blocking range. But I think from what we've seen he's good enough. I like him as the top back out of this class, except I still I'm not sure he's the first round talent. And the NFL Draft, I think we see him going in the second round, and and

he probably will go late first. But you know, based on the talent we have on the defensive side of the ball, uh, the offensive line side of the ball, I just in in what I'm looking at. To me, he's the second round talent. He probably will go late first, though, but I think he's probably going to be the first running back off the board and probably the only one to go in the first round. I don't think he's in the first round. Yeah, And I keep going to that.

I keep you know, I just somebody's gonna chump up to get him that needs a running back probably, uh, and it may be in that, you know, in the first beginning of second round transition. I also think his injury will probably stop people um from paying from from paying up for him, right, So we Ultimately there's a lot of other guys here that could be taking ahead of him because of the injury as well. Now, James is awesome and he has the ability to be awesome,

no doubt. Um, in the NFL, would you give you a couple of other names? Jim, You let me know what you think, all right, Damian Harris did gim research Jim? Yeah, yeah, No, I'm waiting for you to give me a couple of names. Devin Singletary, Oh, you know, just so small, I mean slight, another slight type of guy. Um, you know, and look, he did great in conference USA. I'm not sure really how it's gonna come up. You know, I could see him, uh, you know playing that role at scot role, that number

two running back. I don't ever think he's going to be a true number one. Um. I just don't know if it's there for them, But I think he could be very valued as a you know, out of the backfield, you know, scat back type on a team and it has a power runner to start, so you know, I think he falls there. But man, I would really be surprised if he gets taken before Jacobs. Yeah, no, he won't, he say no, okay, another one not before Jacobia holy Field. Uh you know, if this was boxing, he'd probably be

number one. Um, but uh you know, hey, look just monster numbers six point four yards to carry uh four point one yards after contacting. You know it doesn't have that big home run thing going on, but you know it has a good, good size to him. He could get a lot of volume in the right offense. So again it you know, depending on where he lands, he could be one of those guys that you know in fantasy will go before Jay up but depending on where

heat lands. But man, I the more I look at it, the more Jacobs just really stands out to me as the best of these running backs. You know, there there's everybody likes uh uh grown blank Oh David Montgomery that next, Yeah, another good running back. He could easily be one of those guys. Look, if the team really values him more than the Jacobs, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets drafted ahead of him. I just don't think he'll do

as well as Jacob's in the NFL. Once all is said and done, Jacobs is the better version of Montgomery. I feel like I feel like they we're going now the NFL is going towards the Alvin Kamaro Moldy. You know what I'm saying, catch passes do both be that versatile running back? Uh? And you know what's funny, they're all relatively the same size guys too. They're like five ten, five eleven, two hundred and fifteen. This is what we're

looking at running backs right now. David Montgomery sixteen, Joshua Jacobs five ten to fift, like, they're all around that side and their pass catchers, those are the guys that should go first. I agree, I think. And I'm sorry, I don't mean to cut you off, but I was just gonna say, and this is where some of these combine drills will come into play. If one of these guys has you know, a much better forty time than the others, you know that that may push him up there.

You know, if the three cone drill, if if he's getting you know, much better numbers that way, it might push him up. So this is where some of this comes into play as well. Yeah, Montgomery and Jacob stick out the most to me. Okay, yeah, Jim, are there any any name here that you're specifically watching to see what they do? At the combine Kyler Murray, Obviously you

were waiting to see how he would weigh in. He's not gonna throw, He's gonna meet with teams, He's gonna go, um, go to the doctor, make sure there's nothing wrong with him health wise. Is that doing anything of the combine? Is there any player, whether we've named, whether we've not, that you're saying, Hey, I gotta see what this guy does in the combine because it's really could affect his

draft stock. Oh um, Yeah, There's there's a few different ones that fall into that, but you know, Deebo Samuel is one for me. Um. You know, I really want to see what he does in the combine as well as his numbers, but not only that, you know, catching the ball getting thrown to him, things like that. I want to see where he is because I think if he lands in the right team and becomes their top slot option, I think this kid could be a fantasy

gold mine if he lands in the right place. So he's definitely somebody I want to watch over the next couple of days and see what kind of numbers he puts up. Benny Snell is another one from Kentucky, running back from Kentucky. Um, you know, I think he's a guy that lands in the right place, could end up with like a Sony Michelle type of role that could be really surprised. We could be looking at a thousand yard rusher with the chance of double digit touchdowns if

he lands in the right place again. So it really depends on where some of these guys land, uh, based on what their numbers are put on in the next few days. So it's gonna be interesting. This might be one of the first combines I really watch a lot of because there are some names here, um that I do want to see. Another one is Jay Sternberger, the tight end from Texas A and m Um you know to that what two years in Kansas and then and then played at junior college and then exploded for ten

touchdowns for Texas A and M last year. I think, you know, he needs to work on his blocking ability, but his pass catching is very strong. I was gonna say the one that really I want to see what he does is Riley Ridley. So Calvin Ridley is another good name. Yeah, brother, Um, he's got you know, he got the songs, got it all. You just didn't see a ton on paper. You didn't see, Like the stats aren't like that, they're not full, you know what I mean. I want to see what his body, what he does

with all these metrics and you in the combine. And I also want to see what happens when he comes into the NFL, because I think obviously Calvin Ridley great player right off the jump. I think, you know, Riley could be that same type of same type of guy. I think he could come in and beat somebody, you know, like you said in that second to fourth round range, type of guy that goes under the radar a little bit that could actually make noise right away. I think

Riley Riddy really might be one of those guys. I'm also looking at the other quarterbacks other than Kyler Murray's Wain Askins, like Drew Lock used the thing right like dreet Lock was, it was a big time thing. I want to see what he can do. I want to see if Jake Browning if there's anything there with him as well. Those are two guys that like, all right, I know they're throwing his shorts and a T shirt. I get it. Look, I'm kind of interested. I've got it.

Interested in the deep ball and how accurate they are, you know, I'm actually I want to know how fast they are? And you know what, Jim, I want to know how fast Away Askins is in the forty yeah over under fort eight over I'll think the under What do you wanna been on it? All right, you gotta do. I'm gonna actually look up to see if he has a forty time already? Well, should probably look that up before beta. Well, it's a prop that actually they have

a prop. What is it I'm looking for right now? Home? He didn't have the prop that Yeah, NFL combine prop that's forty audition vertical jump. I don't care about the jump. Will Dwayne Hoskins run the forty audition under over under four point eight second? All right? So I was right, Chim eight for eight is the number on the over four eight is minus one fifteen under four eight is minus one fifteen. It pretty even odds there would take I'm taking the Yeah, you're with me. I think he'll

go faster than that. Yeah, that's I mean, that's not that. That's not a bad number for a quarterback, not at all. For Yeah, for a pocket passer, that ain't. But it's so so other names that are around that, right, like Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger. He's not Cavi Newton. I've never claiming or Russell Wilson or Kyler Murray, he's not. That's not even Roger. If you could be Ben Roethlisberger, or you could be Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan. Yeah, pretty

successful careers. No, yeah, yeah, you might be a little first. And those guys, I don't know. We'll find out. We're gonna find out. I think the only quarterback that in two years we're gonna be talking about is a starter out of this year's draft is gonna be Murray. All the rest of these guys are gonna be lifelong backups. I am interested in Will Greer, though, when and no interesting draft Will Greer? There watched enough West Virginia games.

He's incredibly inaccurate. Yes, well, let's see how we grow like and can't teach. You can't teach, you know, and you know who's the same way by teach accuras can make you can't teach. You can't really teach arm strength, and you can't really teach speed. You can teach accuracy. How could you not accuracy? Accuracy is an innate ability. That's not true. You either throw the ball to the right place or you don't. I don't. I disagree with that. Listen.

You could learn to be more accurate and practice. I mean, everybody's inaccurate when they're young. They eventually learn and practice and become more accurate over time. They're still not doing its NFL quarterbacks that have grown more accurate over time, Michael Vick. I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of guys that do that. You can't teach. Arm strength that you can't teach. You can build it. You can build up arms, the build it up a little bit.

There's a there's a capacity though, Like if you're a guy with a cannon, you just have had cannon. And there's certain guys that just will never get to that cannon level. Like they could build it up a little bit, but it's not gonna happen, you know what I mean. Like Dallas Kikeel, he's not throwing more than ninety miles per hour. It's just not happening. I mean, Charlie Morton

did it though. That's interesting. Callie Morton actually where him throwing like low nineties to mid nineties in his late career. I don't know. I love baseball. I'm sorry, but ultimately, ultimately I agree with Jim accuracy cannopy talk. And you see a lot of these guys come in the league there's incredibly inaccurate and they're just ultimately never successful. Um, Josh Allen was very inaccurate. I'm hoping that turns around because I like Shosh Allen. He's got arms straight, he's

got speed right. If he can get more accurate, he's gonna be a big time quarterback in this league. But then you wouldn't be leaving him if you do, if you don't think you can teach, I want to see it. I want to see it. That's the question. So the guy that when you're talking about accuracy in this draft, yeah, I mentioned Will Greer, but Daniel Jones is the guy from Duke who cannot complete sixty percent of his passes

some real low. You don't want that in college, especially correct correct like you would have an accuracy in the NFL. And I'm sorry to do this again with the Giants, but like Eli Manning has seen as accuracy go up with past Shermer because they're having him throw different passes than he did forever under Kevin Gilbride and Tom Coffin.

Right like he was a downfield pastor. And that was the kind of offense he ran when you rob name Ben McAdoo and then later Pat Shermer, Eli Manning through quicker passes, uh more screen passes, more double off passes, more West Coast style. So his accuracy went off right like that. That is how you fixed accuracy, changing the correct that's how you change the accuracy numbers. But I got at Daniel Jones, who played in a pro style system throwing under six percent of the passes. You cannot

teach that. And that's why I don't leave Daniel Jones will be a good NFL quarterback. That's an issue. Will Greer through sixty seven he was no. I gotta tech. I totally disagree. I think I think he hasn't. Jones has a really really good chance to be a great quarterback. Ah. There it is there, it is the F. The A a F is still around next year. How is your a F team going, Jim? Actually I'm in the lead, or tied with the lead, I should say, with a stone,

him and I are tied for the lead. A couple of teams haven't even put in lineups at all yet. It's crazy. I've kind of lost I'll be honest, I've pretty much lost interest in the league. They should have given these offenses more time to come together. Um. You know, when you got bad offenses on the field, just takes the whole game down. And that's what we've been seeing a lot of a couple of teams have some good offenses, but the rest of the teams have no clue what

they're doing. The fact that Christian Hackenburg is still on the field half the time do nuts. The fact that everybody's raving about Trent Richardson and his two point five yards for carry in that league, it's amazing to me. These are the guys you're you're pinning names on. Come on, um. And the fact that after time you don't know what channel they're gonna be on and and stuff like that, that's a big interest. So that I've lost injuries too, because if you want to sit down on a Sunday,

I don't wanna have to find it. I want to know that it's gonna be on this channel and this time, like you know, the NFL Sunday or if it's Saturday, that's fine, but I need to know that at Saturday or Sunday, at one o'clock or five o'clock, whatever it is, it's gotta be on the same channel. You can't bring me to CBS Sports Network, then bleach your report that NFL Network and CDs. I can't do that. You can't. And that's one thing I know. The XFL learns that

they're signing. I read they're signing deals with Fox or ABC, which is ESPN. Like if you're gonna put certain games on ESPN two every Sunday, great people games on FS one every Sunday. Fine, I don't want to start trapping, all right, it's gotta be consistent. I want to thank Dr Ray for joining us. I want to thank Jim Day Fantasy Task for helping back in it. Appreciate Jim, Appreciate always. We'll talk to you. Sit for Chris Ventraw,

for Chris Pavona. I am Gregg Sauceman back again tomorrow with Frank Stanford going to starting pitching is have a fantastic rest of your day. We'll see you tomorrow. We