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Feb. 27th, Hour 2: Mid-Tier outfielders from #TheCloserPOV

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Gregg and Frank get Chris Ventra's view on the mid-tier outfielders, including how he feels about drafting George Springer, Yasiel Puig, and Tommy Pham. The guys agree that Justin Upton is one of the biggest hit-or-miss type of outfielders, ranging from being a great fantasy value, to very bad!

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You're listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network. Did we just become best friends? Young Fantasy best friends forever? Our number two Fantasy best friends forever? Here on the Fantasy Sports Radio Network. I am Greg Susman. We are joy here by Frank Stample Chris Venture of course for our number two are special guests, so we'll get Venture spots on all these outfielders. That's all in this tier, Frankie.

The tier is the tier. I mean, it's so obvious that there all these guys are very very similar, and I have ranked personal preference. It's massive, man, you know, and it goes, it goes further than the names that we've mentioned so far too. But I mean we'll get into a few more of these guys. I think this is a pretty long tier of like round five through eight,

mid round outfielders that have pretty solid upside. And again this is the range where you know, I want to have three outfielders by you know, for me, it's my top thirty five outfielders. I want to have three by this point. I really don't. I don't want to be looking at you know, David Peralta, and and and and Meadows as my outfielder three. I want those guys. It's like my four venture rank ranked these guys in your

order for us? All right, ready, well not really, but David Doll, Marzello, Zuna, Dick Castianos, Eddie Rosario, and Mitch Hanneger a lot of guys two favorite. All right, that's fair. Ozuna is up there is a favorite, probably least favorite of these guys. Is he at least favorite personally? Yeah? I mean I like Doll. I haven't reaked the lowest. It's probably my least favorite. Uh so, wait, you said Doll, Ozuna, Castianos, Rosario, Hannager, and Twig. Okay, so Hanager is probably we did seven.

We did do second did seven? To us? I think I like Hanager the most uh, and then Cofordo is definitely, you know, ahead of most of those guys. For me, puiguig Puig, I don't know how to say his, can't say say. I'm not good at saying that Pig is up there for me, those three probably ben O Zuna, then I would say Rosario and Castiano. Castiano is kind of full behind them, you know. But you know what it sounds like to me, Ventral likes a lot of these guys. It does sound like that we all, like you,

like a lot of them. We all like a lot of We like this tier. We like this tier in general. I'm cool with the tea and I think the tears over now, that is that where I should end my tear? What do you think? Oh, That's what I'm asking you. Do you agree with that tier ends here? Well? There were there are a few other guys where I don't really mind if these players end up beating my Outfitler three. I know where you're going on with that, And but

I don't think those guys are on this tier. I don't think Justin Upton and Michael Brantley are in this team. What about Pollock? That's another name I want to get to that is really interesting. Let me you don't let me start with A J. Pollock. That's a good one, Chris, because AJ Pollock gets Jeff and every year because he

has the upside to do seemingly everything. Last year, before A J. Pollock got hurt, he was running absolutely wild, right like, he was just running everywhere and stopped and he was the first he had tenne runs and ten or ten still amazing before anybody in baseball last year. And then he stopped, he got hurt and came back and he's just at no point was the same player.

You could make the case and I'm gonna give you the status all in moment here that through April he was your m v P to ninety one nine homers and six stolen bases. He didn't steal more than three stolen bases in any other month the rest of the season. He didn't more hit more than five home runs in any month the rest of the season. Why. Probably because he was never healthy again the rest of the season.

That's the problem when it comes to A. J. Pollock, and has always been the problem with A J. Pollock. The upside is tantalizing it. He had twenty stolen bases, and we saw that he already has twenty home run power. He's done it twice. But he's never ever healthy. And now he's not in Arizona anymore at Chase Field, He's in Dodger Stadium. He's not a spring chicken anymore either. He's over thirty years old. He's thirty one years old. A. J. Pollock isn't the same guy. And you know, Chris, he's

going to be hurt. He has played over a hundred and thirty games twice in his entire career. Really only have one full season, yeah, which was a monster monster was close to a full season as well, undred and thirty seven games. That's close as he's been. That's it. There is nothing to suggest that he can stay healthy for a hundred and fifty games. Again, I don't think

that's possible. I don't think that's reasonable. And that's why I don't think he's in that tier, because you you're get pretty much guaranteed team he's getting hurt, right, almost guarantee he's and it's forty games. I think it's more the upside, like when he plays, he's gonna play at a higher level than most of these guys. I don't agree with that. That's what's I think you're gonna see a similar level, maybe a similar level, which is why I like the guys who are gonna play more. GA

game is better than him. Rank right. He had one home runs in thirteen bases only thirteen games last year. Nine of those home runs came in April. Six of the stolen basis came in April before he got hurt. The thing is, how how do you project him for much more than that? The past three years? He's played a hundred thirteen, hundred and twelve and twelve correct game. You can't each of the past three years. You can't played a hundred and fifty seven games once that was in.

He is now thirty one years old his eight thirty one season. He does not turn thirty two until December. I think when he plays like he's gonna be really good because the Dodger's lineup is he's gonna lead off for a lineup that take a lot of stock in the lineup. So yeah, I've heard that a lot today. It means a lot because it determines how many runs, your score, how many played appearances you're getting. Um, you know, Yeah,

I mean it affects her county stats obviously. Look, he's leading off for a lineup that has core Corey Seker, Justin Turner, and Cody Bellinger behind a and oh wait, oh wait, they might get Bryce Harper because now the Dodgers are the betting favorites to land Rice Harper. So Dodgers line up is pretty good. I mean they also have Max Monty too, Like I think when he plays,

he's gonna be really good. It's just how can you project him for more than likely the fan Graphs projection projections having between a hundred and twenty s and a hundred forty two games. Man, I mean, if that would have happened, that would it seems very very optimistic. He hasn't been over to sixty six batting average each of the past three Like, he's not gonna be on my team.

Polic is not gonna be on my team, you know, as as hantalizing is the word that Greg has been using today, as tantalizing as he is with the ability to maybe be a player and score a lot of runs, it's just like the batting average hasn't been great the past couple of years. He misses a lot of games. He's older now, thirty one years old. I guess the Dodgers line up. I'd just don't. I just don't really

want anything to do with him, man, I understand. I think on a per game basis, though it is tantalizing, like when he plays last year to like career high twenty one point seven percent k rate, he's never been over like you're starting to see like some decline to which is crazy to say because this April was awesome, but then like his season in a hole was not because of the injuries. You know, Um, I don't know

if he's declined. I think he's just you gotta you gotta burn in the fact that he's not gonna probably score a hundred runs because he's probably not gonna play enough games to so. But but when he's playing, he's gonna give you numbers. I mean, he's going to produce I think on a consistent basis. So that's my issue. I don't think that he's going he's telling like twenty to thirty picks later than all the guys we just talked about, right, So, Hanneger, that's what he was saying.

He was saying that he considers him maybe, and that's here, that's why I brought him up. Ennegar was the last one of of that here that we were just talking about. He goes to pick a po over the past two weeks, is going pick one thirteen, so he's going twenty two picks later. If I like that value about a round and a half later. But also going in this range, you have a lot of injury risks in this range,

really just a lot of risk overall. Will Myers is going in this range injury risk as well, Michael Brantley injury risk is like, there's a lot of injury risk in this range. Here's but he's my fields shallow to me, I don't really like. Here's my issue with where do you feel comfortable with Pollock as in your team? Sorry? Greg,

uh fourth fourth outfielder. If he's my third, you're gonna take your fourth outfielder and round I don't know wherever he's going nine, because you're gonna wanta gonna want to get a start in that range. You're gonna potentially, yeah, he's might see feel I feel comfortable was about fourth outthider. I agree with that, but I'm not gonna take it where he is. You have him ranked. I don't have him wall on a te or these guys. I don't have him ranked yet because I deep Chris. He keeps

saying that when he's out there, he produces. He came back last five, and I don't really want he came back in Jil. I'm at at two eighty six right, four homers, fourteen RBI. He produced right in all he's been twenty five games, so he played the entire month. One eight nine was his batting average, with one home run and ten rivies. He struck out twenty eight times in twenty five games. One month later in September slash October for the one game they played in October whatever

to thirty six get five old runs. Give him that, but that's terrible. I think there's more in the decline and play last year and the decline in him. He's just the same guy. The cons outweigh the pros when it comes to a j part. I think that you're probably right. I mean, listen, when did he get injured exactly in the season May May? So, why did he do well about two eighty six in? Was it? And then what happened that he all of a sudden bad

one eight. Maybe he was battling an injury, you know, through injury, but he's also be playing through injury, you know. But like at this point, you kind of gotta bake that into his rejection. Again, he hasn't been higher than two sixty six batting average each of the past three years. Everyone remembers that where he was awesome with twenty home runs and thirty nine stolen basis he had three fifteen that year. Since then, he's never been over to sixty six.

So where does the batting average even lie when it comes to A. J. Pollock? So you need a backup plane. If you're gonna take Pollock. If you take Pollock is like a third outfielder as a starting outfader, then you need a backup plane. Then you gotta take some Betta, take some pretty safe guys after that, Guys that you know that are gonna at least but I'll agree with you guys that you know doll Comford O, Castiano's Hannager.

All these guys should be ahead of him. Another guy that's injured, as you said, are injury prone, Frank, in this tier is Michael Brantley, who you seemingly been high on um during this draft process, somebody that you would consider as a back end third outfielder. What makes you think Michael Brandon's stay healthy. There's really nothing. Again at this point in the draft. He's one of the only guys that's gonna provide batting average, you know, in round

eight nine or later range. He's gonna give you a three hundred plus batting average and he's gonna be in the Astros lineup. Now, again, I wouldn't project him for you know, more than like a hundred thirty games maybe, which is gonna affect his counting stats. But he played a hundred forty three list and that was the most he's played. So and he's a little bit older too now with Michael Brandley. So again, me personally, I can't really project it for much more than like a hundred

and thirty games. But it was a hundred thirty games. He's gonna hit three hundred and he's gonna be in the Astro's lineup. So he's gonna be you know, fifteen

sixteen home runs in that range. He's gonna still give you twelve stolen basis, like, he does a little bit of everything, and he gives you a three hundred batting average, but I think the injury risk kind of baked into his his his draft price to like you don't have to you know, you know, you don't have to spend like a huge draft price to get Michael Brantley on your team. It's really like a roster construction thing. So

you get like, um, I was thinking Adalberto Mondescy. But again, like if you get a stolen base guy or you know, I think he's a good player to pair with. You know, one of these stolen base guys who give you low batting average, right like Billie Hamiltomils something like that. It comes into roster Construction'll give you a little bit of everything, but he gives you batting average, which is it's not easy to find in the round nine, round ten range

in the middle of a roto draft. And for points leagues, when he plays, he's gonna be awesome because he doesn't strike out. He makes a ton of contact. Is the lowest swing strike in the league last year and then too, so in a point he's gonna be great. Three points and fantasy points is really good. He was great last year. I don't think there's any way to dispute that he was awesome last year three games played. I actually I have a few spots behind Pollock, though two I haven't met.

I haven't met. I'll field thirty seven. It's yeah, I like him ahead of Pollock. Like, look, they're both injury risks, right, but you can get more stolen based upside out of Pollock. And it's I'm looking at it. I just line up is very good too. M hmm. Yeah, the average. One more guy that I think is in here, Frank, and it's and you have he's a rotic player and I hate him because I'm not a ROTO player. I will never draft him. You should never draft him in points

leg ever ever. Oh Justin Upton, hmm, I had him last You had that good for you at times great, at times bad. That is Justin Upton in a nutshell man at times great, at times bad. Really effing bad is what it is. He gets so cold in a ROTO league. You look at the stat lines, they're always there, they're always watching. Where's just enough to go in this car? So I have Justin Upton um at as my twenty ninth outfielder. And again this is just strictly for Roto.

I don't want I don't want him in head to head points because he's extremely su he strikes out a lot. But the bat of ball data is still really good for Justin Upton. He's thirty one years old, still hits the ball extremely hard, hits the hits a lot of line drives. You know, twenty two percent last year was the highest of his career, even you know at the age that he's at hard hit rate also the highest of his career. You can just set your watch to

thirty plus home runs. He's been thirty plus home runs each for the last three seasons. He's been at least eighty runs, at least eighty five r V. I's uh, he's been at least eight stolen bases and seemingly every year of his career. Look at it's two, four, six, eight, ten, ten seasons in a row, he's been at least eight stolen bases. So canybe eight to ten stolen bases? You know, at two fifty to two sixty batting average, dirty home

runs eighty eight. What I want to know is if he's healthy because and you guys have to ask dr Ad that tomorrow. But he has like a teller tendonitis, which sounds terrible for an outfielder, So I need to know more about that. But if if he is healthy for opening day and this isn't something that's going to linger, than you're getting Hey, set set your watch to whatever. With Justin Upton as he is every single year he's he's he's just a better player in Rhodo. You just got.

It just stinks because like you don't know when that cold, cold month or whatever it's gonna come and then he'll go on a tag. Don't get me wrong. But one thing really strange though, seventeen and this four points leagues. He had forty four doubles last year at eighteen doubles, Like what happened there? Like what did you do? How did you go from me? He's not really a big double sixteen eighteen, so you know, so you don't expect, Yeah,

you expect twenty five to thirty, not eighteen. Though I'm not probably not going to drift him, but I mean, listen, the outfield shallow, like he could be a starting third outfielder on a team. You know, like in my points league there's no strikeouts negating for strikeouts. He strikes out a ton so it really make that change. Probably no, because you know what the problem that is everybody everybody strikes out of time. Man just enough, by the way,

same aj JJ Pollo, never guess that. All right, dude, break, we're gonna come back. Let's hit on one of the other guys. Don't make a progress there, so let's keep it going. Victor Roe, blaze your boy, Malex Smith, well myers too, see Gordon as well and eloy him and as those guys are up next Fantasy Best Friends record Daily rodo dot com learned from the game's best DFS players. We don't just give you premier advice. We play every day,

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I feel like we should just do a whole segment in voices like that, how much do you like Victor robe Layers? Victor Robless? Is vaa like that? Is that you're like counting crows? I think the chad wakes up in horning. I think the chap might disappear if we do. It's our out your song. Actually, they would hate us for sure. You have Victor Roeblass here, Frank, you bring up Victor Roeblass, who is going before Michael Conforto as of now in the NFB sade pick one oh three.

Victor Robloss is a long time top prospect, hYP long time hype bro hype rospect for the Washington Nationals. The problem is he's projected back at ninth yeah, for this team after the picture as a second lead off guy, and it's annoying for sure. Road Bless, at twenty one years old, made his major league debut back in team. Played twenty one games in the Big leagues last year, three overse three stolen bastions, two the eight, but again

it was twenty one games. If he's going to play every day and give the opportunity to do so, we like it. Adding ninth we don't like it. That could change, though, anything could change Adam eating steaks, which more likely absolutely, how How in how in might he might lead off against left handers right away too? How in are you Chris Ventra on Victor Lass I'm obviously um to eighty

eight last year. I really like to see that a small samples size, of course, but in this lineup I think listen, him and Eloy Jimenez are interesting to me. I like Elo more, but Eloy isn't probably going to play till later in April, right, he's probably not gonna get called up till then, so probably, you know, you gotta fill in for him the first month or so, so that kind of bothers me. But and Robot is

gonna play right away. I like Eloy better as a player, but I don't like the lineup that Eloy will be in. I like this lineup better. If Robots could work his way into into betting leadoff or something like that, then I really like this guy for the counting sets and all that, because I think he could be a really good player. I just don't know if this is the year that you want him. This comes in. This comes in from Mark Fine sand By the way, a little

breaking news for you. The Giants with Bryce Harper and Scott Barris yesterday in Vegas. So that's not dead yet either. I guess I don't think he's gonna go I don't think he's gonna go there. Um, why why would the

Giants sign him? Yeah? I mean it would just be a a brutal, brutal move for that organization because they're kind of on the brink of rebuilding, rebuilding, like they're an older team on Gloria, Like they're getting closer to that area where you gotta try and sell your pieces off and kind of tear it down and build it back up. Like Madison Bumgardners in a contract the year,

they probably end up trading him. And it's not just me saying this because you know I want well selfishly, Yeah, I don't want Bryce Harper there in San Francisco, but it just doesn't it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Look, he wants to be on the West coast, Braake, I told you that all along, He's gonna end up a Dodger. That's what's gonna happen. He's gonna end up

with a Dodger. To me, it's Dodgers or Phillies. And I know that there's been like front office clash with the giants between uh who was the GM that they brought in ZAIDI Like apparently he doesn't want them, but like the ownership does want Bryce Harper, and like they're kind of clashing and stuff. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me when it comes to Bryce Harper

in San Francisco. For Victor Roeboliz, you went in the sixth round of this current Great Fantasy Baseball invitational draft that I'm doing, you went ahead of guys like Marcella's doing the Mitch Hanigers. So just to give you a looking side, what the experts, the industry folks are thinking about Victor roblists is they're very excited, and I think for a good reason. Right, you look at his sprint speed last year, he was a ninety five percentile. He

is a very very fast guy. Uh. He has seasons of seven and thirty seven stolen bases down in the minor leagues. He's a career three hundred hitter in the minors with as He's got a little bit of pop and he's kind of gonna grow into that. And I was listening to a podcast with Ian conn actually our our buddy, our friend of the program, where he compared

Victor robots to Starling Marte in the future. He might he's probably he's not gonna be there that year, obviously, because then you'd expect him to do what a third or fourth Ron caliber player is doing and Starling Marte, but Starling Marte light. And you know, look at his fan grass projections. They have him at to seventy five around fifteen home runs, around from thirty stolen bases with you know the county stats at you know, six d R B I s and over seventy runs scored. That's

Starling mar Daylight. Mm hm, you know. So he's he's gonna give you, you know, those those twelve, He's gonna give you close to thirty stolen basis if he plays every single day. I don't expect Adam Eaton to stay healthy for all that long. And I wouldn't be surprised if Victor Robis right from the get go against left handed pitching, does lead off for this team. Um, I think there is a lot to like about him, So

I'm kind of in I have him. I have him rankings as my outfielder of thirty, which is just behind Justin Upton, just behind Zuna, just behind Castils and those guys. I have them ahead of Joey Gallo, Will Myers, Aaron Hicks. So he's kind of part of this tire where I wouldn't really mind him as one of my outfield three. Again, those other guys that we talked about earlier on the show the first hour, I'd rather have one of those

guys my outfielder three. But he's he's kind of in this range where if you take if you take a power hitter early on like a judge, and then you take someone who kind of a little bit of everything, like a like a doll or a plague, you come around. I think it makes a lot of sense roster construction. Why as where doesn't hurt your batting average, gives you a little bit of pop, gives you speed. Yea, let's let's with other speed guy. Then Frank, shall we where

do you having compared to Alex Smith? I have Malex Smith at thirty eight. You were considering drafting Malex Smith in your Great Fantasy Baseball Invitational and ultimately wound up going in a different direction. Okay, I'm worried about the injury. Right now, we don't really have a lot of news with Malex Smith. He's dealing with an elbow injury. He's been edited list now, he hasn't uh, he hasn't I believe, hasn't swung a bat yet in spring. So he's dealing

with this injury. But look, there is a lot to like about Malex Smith. Again, you know, expected to lead off for the Seattle Mariners, whether it Tim or d Gordon or you know, I do think he's gonna be

at the top of this line up. His sprint speed in percentile from last year, one of the fastest players in all of baseball, and we were kind of let in to what his upside can be last season to or he's stolen bases, um, you know, sixty five runs scored and that was in a hundred and forty one games where you know he wasn't even necessarily the starter in a lot of those games. I feel like he didn't really come along, come along until in the second half.

But he's a three category contributor. He's gonna definitely hurt your your in home runs, you can definitely hurt you in r W eyes. But he can be like d Gordon, like I see a lot of similarities there. And you know, being a left handed bat, he didn't struggle against lefties last year either. He actually took a huge step forward against left handed pitching. So I don't worry about that.

Did he give you a two eight plus batting average and he gets on base, he can he can come close to fifty stolen basis, Greg But again, this is a this is a roster construction thing. You have to make sure that you're good everywhere else in the power departments. But you know again at that point in the draft, round nine, round ten, Yeah, he helps your average too, so he gives you again, he gives you average still

bases and run scored. He's you know, that's good. That's what we said about Lorenzo Kane, who's going in the fourth round except Lorenzo Caine's gonna give you a little more popped than Malex Smith. But at this point in the draft, to get a batting average, speed and run scored kind of guy, and there is a lot to like. But I dropped him down a little bit personally, just because I don't really know what's going on his elbow injury. Right, yeah, it gives me some news on that. UM. As a

shout out to Michelle S. Harper right there. Uh, Malex Smith is expected to be cleared to resume throwing next week. This was February. I did it again. I really had at that time. Actually, um, and it's possible he could begin swinging the bat even before that. It's good news for Smith, so could be throwing next week. I know that's worse. I'm listening for me. I'm the opposite. I could understand roto. He does a lot of things that

you want to fill out and roster construction. But in points leagues, he's not He's not that good at him for a while last year, to be honest with you, and I don't think he's He's fine. The thing is, he's held around eight and a half percent of walk grade for his career. So Smith, you always wanted it to be like at least last year I owned him.

Chris always just wanted to do a little more. He's amaze he stole forty bags, but you're like, I felt like he always wanted a little bit more, Like he stole what he bigs and he only foty five Fantasy points. Stole forty bags last year. Greg, it was him and with Mary Field. It's not easy and fine man, no man, it's not in Rhodo. That's why I'm saying he's valuable on Rhodo points. It doesn't matter. We did this yesterday,

we did this exercise with something else. But I mean, name on your hand, how many guys who can legitimately steal forty plus bags this year? Only five guys Harry Field, Billie Hamilton's Dee Gordon, Alex Smith, monest Starley Marte might be Yeah, Marte, maybe he could if he plays a full season. By Mookie can to go forty forty. But realistically there's really only five guys I can do this. Malex Smith is one of them. Kind of liked Gordon light and he's going later than de Gordon. Where is

de Gordon going compared to Malex Smith. Gordon's going Gordon's going one ten and Malex Smith is going it picks earlier round. Well, then maybe it was just my draft. It seems that way. I just don't like him in points leagues. I'm not going to drift him as a starter in points leagues. Did you have de Gordon as a starter in points leaves at second base? Not in the outfield, but at second base. Maybe that's a low one, right that like speed, guys just don't do They don't

do it. If you don't have the power and stuff, you don't you know, he don't do everything anything else really Besides Gordon Waite in the sixth round of my draft and Malex Smith went in round eight, we almost two full rounds later. Should the discrepancy be that farg what do you think? That's just a product of Malex Smith not being in spring training right now, dealing with the injury. A lot of question marks there. Mm hmm, what more younger, I don't want to boot put that

maybe not one more. But the next guy I want to kind of put in this crew potentially is Elo Himnez. I don't want to say him Andez, you know him and Nez, him and Thenez Eli Him Andz. Yeah, I mean, young guys. Don't do that again. Preventral will take you out back. Eloimenez not as Harold is as Lad, but should be up close soon as after top prospect for Chicago long time coming obviously went over to the White Sox in the Jose King Thana deal like that. Actually,

thank you, thank you, venture. We're gonna get some get some calls. What point do you take? What do you take? Eli Himanez Frank I think uh, I think in that eighth round range again. I think he's in this tear right after the those guys that we spoke about in the first hour, there are those guys are more of

the fifth six, maybe seventh round. I think a lot of the players that we've talked about now are eighth rounder later in the eight to ten round range and Elohimenez similar to Vladimir Guarro Jr. And I've made this case on Twitter for him drink is if Vladimir Guerrero weren't around this year, Eloi Himenez would be going two

or three rounds earlier than he is. Right so, because because vlad is kind of taken away all the prospect type and everyone wants all the time vladimc Guarro in the third round, fourth round, I gotta take vladimcgarreoh junior. Everyone's kind of forgetting about Eloi Himenez and he's a player that you're getting four rounds later. Should the discrepancy be that far between those two? I know, like Vladim Mcgarreol's can't miss, like you know, the next generational prospect.

But look at Ego's numbers. I mean he's really good too. He's powers three eleven career hitter in the minor leagues within eight seventy eight ops. It's twenty two home runs last year and only a hundred and eight games last year. We were talking about top pross fixing baseball. The comp that I gave him was Nelson Cruz. I think that Elo Jimenez. Once he hits his prime, is gonna be a two eight plus hitter with thirty five home runs?

Does he get this there? This year's the question because you know he's gonna be down a few weeks in Chicago, but it's it's a pretty good ballpark to hit in with the White Sox there, and you know, again he's gonna learn from a guy like Jose Brave, which I think makes a lot of sense. Right, You're gonna have that vetter in presence in the lineup. If I'm just projecting for this year, he gives you no speed whatsoever,

but nothing. I think he could be a two eight hitter with twenty five plus home runs with with solid r b I s as well in the White Sox a per game basis, that'll be pretty It just good. It just comes down to what you need at that point in the draft. If you need batting average, home runs in RBIs, I think Elo him and is gonna be a pretty good bat. Would you take him ahead of Malex Smith, Victor rob I like Victor Roblats his power speed combination a little bit more, and the fact

that he's already been in the Major league. He got a little bit of a taste last year, and he's going to start. I like roblasts a little bit more. Yeah, but Eloy I have I have just a few spots beyond him. I have Rode last at thirty. I have Eloy at thirty four. So they're they're just for reference. Where's like Brantley and Pollock we talked about earlier? Brightly it's thirty five. Have the one spot behind at thirty six. Oh so interesting. So Rode Blas and Jimenez are before

these guys. Interesting. Okay, two spots ahead of Eloy. I have ear knows um leg Calf, whatever you can think of, Will myersond and I have Aaron Hicks thirty third. That was awesome. We did that. Let's get an Aron Hicks. Perfect time to do that before we hit the break one last player. Aaron Hicks size the seventy seven years, seventy million dollar extension. And I keep saying, then O B.

P Leaves in particular. I like Aaron Hicks. Man. You look at this dude and he does everything that theoretically you would. I let's just say with average, the average isn't good. The everage two forty eight was two forty eight last year's a career two thirties six center the O b P. I think he's better than the two forty the O b pe s six year before that with the US three sevent too. He's always been high on base guy, and he says that's what he does. What makes him so good is that he always tries

to limit the strikeouts and walk a lot. He walked fifteen and a half percent of the time last year while striking out under twenty percent of the time. Twenty seven mombs stole eleven basses. He's got that consistently steals you around ten bases when giving an opportunity. Uh ninety runs scored, seventy nine r v I. Hicks is going to hit probably near the top of the Yankees. A

lot of him leave right now. He's projected to lead off. UM, he could flip flop I with Glaberry in the middle at some point, but he's gonna hit in the middle to the top of the Yankees lone of a Yankee stadium. That's very good. He's a switch hitter. He's going to be there in there every day as their center fielder. You you should want Aaron Hicks I really really like Aaron Higgs a lot that he was an average Fantasy points per game. He was number thirteen outfielder. He's great.

Love That's why I was three point seven. He's really good because past two years, fourteen percent or higher put down the strikeouts of the you know, since earlier on in his career he's below there's below league average in terms of he's gonna give you, you know, tennis twelve steals. And if this is a big if, because last year he played a career high a hundred and thirty seven games. If he stays healthy leading off of the Yankees Greg, he has the upside to score a hundred and ten runs.

Legitimately runs last year and a hundred and thirty seven games he plays a hundred and fifty, he's gonna score a hundred plus runs, So he does have that upside. Again, the battle ball data is great. Hits a lot of line drives. I mean, he really came into it els on last year thirty nine percent hard hit rate stat has had his expected batting average at two sixty. Last season he was at to forty eight. He was a

little bit unlucky. I think he's more of a two sixty two sixty five hitter who can between twenty and thirty home runs, and if he stays healthy, he could legitimately hit thirty home runs least he plays a hundred and fifty games. That's sixty thirty home runs, a hundred runs scored, and ten to twelve stolen basis. If he could have more than square, I mean Aaron Judge, Cal Stanton, Gary Sanchez behind him. That's ridiculous. That's why I don't

think he should be drifted as a third outfielder. I think he should drifted as more of a utility guy. I would be very happy as like my fourth outfield slash utility guy in my line up, my fantasy lineup. ELI is an interesting I'll take Aaron Hicks. I'll take Aaron Hicks. Take a break. We'll hit the bottom of

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gonna be in on this guy. You see that the hard hit percentage was forty eight point six and I like that. It was like the second half ridiculous. You like that even better. What you don't like is that the groundball percentage is over fifty percent for David Parralta. Well, you like three bombs last year, two three batting average, Yeah, the babbit was less than it was the year before,

three back to back years. You like that. What you don't like is the split against lefties where he isn't so great, adding to thirty seven against them last season. David Parralt does a name where I don't know if he's a hype guy frank or is a He's a guy that people kind of feels a little bit sneaky on. What do you think about David parla He's not a hype guy. I'm a little torn on He's not a hiph guy. There's a feeling in the industry that like him.

I know Al melki Or isn't on him. There was a pretty cool piece on The Athletic which talked about him consciously trying to raise his launch angle and lift the ball a little bit more. As you could see in his battleball profile from eighteen, he lowered his groundball rate by five percent, started hitting more line drives, started hitting more flyballs, and if he trends even more in that direction and continues to square up the ball and hit it as hard as he does, then you know,

maybe his upside is higher than thirty home runs. And look, the home run the flyball ratio was a career outlier. It was very high last season. But if you continue to uh to improve the launch angle and hit the ball hard, even if the home run the fly ball ratio comes down a little bit, those things can mitigate, mitigate, and he could still kind of be in twenty five to thirty home run range. We know that he's a good cure hitter in terms of batting average career to hitter.

I want to see him get better against lefties, for sure, but you know, at this point in his career he has appearances. He hasn't been good against lefties ever, I don't know if it's ever gonna come. He's an elite, elite hitter against right handed bats. I'm talking about like one of the you know, ten fifteen nest hitters in baseball against right handed pitchers. But this is kind of who he is at this point. But you know, again, so I don't think the power is is going up.

It's going down if anything. Yeah, look he's probably closer to home run guy. But from where he's going in drafts, even if he gives you his career batting average, which is around to ninety and he's twenty five home runs with you know, eighty plus RBIs and plus runs, but where he's going in drafts, it's pretty good value. He could. It turned out to be a pretty good value. You don't want to drift him as a as one of your first three out. I don't want him as one

of my first That's what it comes down to. I mean, he's kind of like a fallback option. The ones that are the ones that we're gonna be talking about this segment are like fallback options totally if you miss out, and you know, maybe I should have told myself that because I missed out with the fallback options, well you missed out. You missed out on David Peralta. And then that you just told us during the break that you might may have to consider is Ian Desmond and you

got the Colorado Rocky Course Field factor. When it comes to Ian Desmond, Desmond was a guy that I think we were You and I were on him last year, right, Frank, Yes, I didn't really getting him at a discount because of what he did in seventeen, his first year at the Rock. So theoretically we could say it didn't work out last year. He's bad at two thirty six. But yet you look at just the line and as a Rodo player, Whey Homer's steals ad runs scored eight eight r v I

that's a really good line. And by to look at that bad to seventy nine, his batty was to seventy nine. He's a career and he plays in course field. He plays in courts field. So a two seventy nine bad. I don't care that he hits the ball in the ground sixty two percent of the time, which is it's a little it's a little annoying, but He's always hit the ball on the ground a lot. I mean not

this much. But you know, even if the power comes back a little bit, even if he's eighteen home runs back to back years of sixty, Grandma, all right, what do you believes in Colorado? Right? So the batting average is gonna bounce back, and believe he's expected batting average was somewhere like to sixty, right, and you look at the projections have him right around two sixty. Got to be better in course field, like he was unlucky last year. The bad bit was bad. The batting average was two

thirty six. That was a career low for him. I mean, that's it's an obvious outlier season for him. And he hit the ball harder than ever before last season as well. So look, I don't love Ian Desmond, but again you're talking about a guy who can come close to being a twenty with at eight plus runs and eight plus RBI's last year, and he's going where he's going. I don't like you. I like more as an outfield four, but he's one of these guys where he's gonna at

least contribute a little bit of steals. He's getting to be in guy with solid county stats, and I expect the batting average to be better in the in the two sixty Chornge, I think it's a fine I think he's a fine rotal league player league yet not a point too streaky to you know, very streaky too hit a miss, like at the end of the year. At the end of the year, the numbers will be there.

It's all. That's all another guy you're considering. Yesterday, at least I was enduring because he has some speed, he has some ability to hit for average at times. And yet when I say that name, venture goes cringe. Why don't you like Chris. He's not a points league guy. He's just not a point league guy. Dude. He's not gonna get it done in points leagus for you so much.

So much of value is tied into where he's gonna hit in the lineup, which nobody knows right now, because the other day Ronald Dacunia batted clean up its bring training and today he's hitting leadoff, So they're kind of trying a Kunia in different spots. But if Kunia does bat clean up, then they're they're gonna put n cr tap off. Obviously that helps his value tremendously because then he's gonna have more opportunities to run. He's gonna score a ton of runs in that Braves lineup, hitting ahead

of Josh Donaldson and Freddie Freeman and Ronald Kunia. So his values directly tied into where he's gonna bat. But last year, I think, you know, the two sixty five batting average is the outlier every other you know, the three years before that, he was to nine one or better. I think he's a better hitter than Town. I would expect a two sixty five and he's I would expect the two eighty five batting average, twenty five steals, you ran a lot last year. He got, he did, but

he also he attempted forty two steals last season. That was by far his highest. I mean before that, his highest was thirty one attempts. He attempted forty two last year. So and maybe that was that was under a newer ish manager for the Atlanta Brave. So if that's a mindset thing where they want n c RT to run a lot, that's a good thing. So I think he's probably closer to five steals to eight five batting average. You know, you're gonna get though here, which that isn't complete?

Like he gave you at least ten home runs each to the past two seasons, would you have? Isn't he a lot like male Lorenzo Kane? Now you're looking at it right, Lorenzo Kane gave you ten home runs and thirty eight Ribbies last year and there give you ten home runs at sixty one Ribby's and he scored, He scored at least eighty runs three years. Kane walked a lot more. Kane walked at a better clip. Yeah, he's at and I know I like Lorentzo Kane hits three

hundred and everyone's I think two years ago. I think people are reacting a little bit too in in CRTs to sixty five at batting average last year, it's a career two eighty nine hitter will go all right, Frank I was sold. If you need need, if you need speed, solid average and steals and someone who's not gonna completely sink you, and he's gonna give you ten home runs in the you know, in this range of the draft

in is whatever. He's he's a pretty good like he's learned learns o Kane light but not really that light. He's actually a pretty close. Why is Kane going so much higher? You tell me Greg, accounting stats kind of the same. I think the side might be better than the Brewer's lineup. The fact that they you know what you're gonna get from Lorenzo Cane. You know that he's gonna hit lead off every single game. You don't know

that about it was a little bit more. I guess what, I have them ready, all right, and there's played a hundred fifty six games. Lenzo Cane played one. You know, Lorenzo can is gonna miss a few games. He had forty less of bats total. Cane had ten home runs home runs. Kane had ninety runs scored in year seven run difference and CRT had sixty one Ibby's he need thirty eight thirty steals for Kane, eight for incrte times was Kane caught stealing seven? Much better, much better ratio.

The only attempt at thirty seven. The ratio is great attempt at forty two. A lot got caught fourteen times. But they kept running them out there. I mean walk great Cane at eleven and a half percent in seven and a half percent, that's the difference. That's a big difference ob P and points leagues. That obviously matters. Cane strikes out a little bit, standard Cane strikes a little bit more more. Fifteen point two percent in CRT is attent. I think we found something here. I think we did too.

Babbitt for Lorenzo Cane last year, three fifty seven CRT to three. Would you rather have NCRT here? Malex Smith in Sierta. Malex Smith has the upside of fifty steals too, Like I think he comes. He's a better player. It's a little bit more of everything. Yeah, he's more balanced, just more balanced. Yeah, I have it paral to Malex Smith TRT in that order right now. On draft either one of those guys, I'll just tell you that they're

not points le guys. Would you drop there? Would you draft David Peralta him I Mike, would you draft him before? Would you draft Andrew McCutcheon? Yes? Yes, are badly, we are bad? What is happening? You guys are all in one of my favorites. Awesome, dude, he's awesome. What pup I got it? You're actually gonna get your present? Pasantly surprised letn't surprise. Look, the twenty Horme runs looks bad last year because he played after in San Francisco. What

are you three percent hard hit rate? Greig? It's still there but for the for the old Stallion here? Do you like him? And Philly? He ain't that old? Would why wouldn't you like it? Ain't that old? It is? It is? Yesterday we were talking about certain players. It's the it's the best ballpark that he's gonna play in ever, for ever, I mean playing the stadium last year, but from the beginning of the scene, for the entire year of the season. It's the best ballpark he's ever going

to play in. And he's pretty good. Phillies line up. It would be better if Bryce Harper would go there, but now I'm not so sure. But it's still a pretty good line up with Real Mutoa and Reese Hoskins. The Phillies lineup is good. Are going to be there, man, Like I'm back, I'm back, back up last year. Remember when everybody gave up him a cutcheon? Was it last year? Two or two years ago when he was I'm back. He's going so late nobody wants him? Yeah, nobody wants

him because of that though. That's what I'm saying. He disappeared at one point two years going in and then he's doing one thirty seven. He's going after right after Jimenez, Michael Brandley, Aaron Higgs, David Peralta, and for me, Andrew McCutcheon is a guy based on Now here's a guy that based on his hard hit rate last year and as many line drives as he hits, he should have

been a better hitter than two fifty five. So I think he's closer to a let's see, Yeah, I think he's a two seventh stadding average, close to home runs in the middle, middle of the Phillies order. He's gonna drive in more and as much as he gets on base, he's gonna score runs in the Phillies line up, and in the stolen basis came back up last year. Not to mention he's gonna walk twelve to fifteen stolen bases. He might walk a hundred times. He doesn't hurt you anywhere.

He doesn't hurt you anywhere like that happens. Right if he has two seventy with twenty four home runs, eighty runs scored, eighty five r b I s and twelve stolen bases. He's basically Eddie Rosario and that group. He's basically that group in his production. But he's going later, much later. Let's see two rounds, three rounds. Eddie Rosario and Hanniger are going pick nine is going on seven. This is a guy. This is a player that is

undervalued right now for fantasy purpose. Just honestly, the move to Philly is huge, fim. He's gonna score over a hundred runs lineup. I mean he he hasn't gotten hurt a long time. Really, he plays almost hundred six. Is he projected to lead off right now? Is that where the leadoff? Alright? So then the RBIs aren't gonna be there. He's gonna be like the runs will be with Segura, Real, Muttu, Ries Haskins all batting behind him. I think he'll score a hundred runs. He'll I mean I lead off. That's

the thing. He's gonna take a hit in aubis. He's gonna walk a hundred times because people are gonna walk him because's been lead I mean, I think he's gonna get end up getting a lot of walks. You walk ninety five times last year. That's that's a lot. That's a lot, dude. I mean he does everything well. I don't see how people only get fourteen bags also, so I'll have ten to fifteen bags. Ninety average eggs of

Philosophy was a three year best last year renaissance. I would take him as a third outfielder even we have a minute left, you will not be in tomorrow. Give us one more outfield that you're targeting, Austin Meadows. I've moved them all the way up. I have him as as my outfielder forty one right now. You know, once you get past you know it's McCutcheon, David Parlson, Alex Smith, n CRT. That's kind of like the cut off for me,

where those are your fallback outfielder three options. If I end up with Alson Meadows as my outfielder four in a lot of leagues, I'll be pleasantly surprised, because I do think there's upside there. He has the prospect. I'd agree. I think you could be between fifteen and twenty home runs and stolen bases, not gonna kill your batting average. It's actually better against lefties. Last year he makes a lot of contact, he doesn't strike out. I think Tam

Bay is gonna let him play every day. And there's a lot to like about all the medals this year. I'm in Venture and I will break down the rest of the top fifty outfielders tomorrow on the program. We're losing combine stuff as well for Chris Venture, Chris Pavona, and Frank Staffel. My name is Greg suspeaking so much for watching listening to the dfs. It Scott Fantasy that was Fantasy is up next.

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