Fantasy Football 2019: Panthers and Bucs Previews

Day to you, buddy. Had to sleep last night. I slept pretty well alright, if I remember correctly. How's the scott fishball going today? I heard you're you're moving along very quickly. Well, I know, I was very interested in an update. Uh so I made the last uh the last pick of last night, I believe. Um. I texted you guys around twelve or some made my pick. Uh. Since then, that was about fourteen hours ago. Uh, there's been one pick? Is it the same culpra as before? Oh?

My goodness, the same exact person. God. We yesterday we were on the show and we were talking about how one person hadn't hadn't picked for six hours. Now he has not picked for another six hours. It was funny. Like five rounds ago, Greg, we're now officially the slowest draft in Scott's fishbole. I'm sorry this must be killing you. Why how are you man? I'm doing good, Man, I'm doing good. Uh, yesterday was was fun man. I enjoyed doing the show again with you guys. That made me

think about all kinds of stuff. Fantasy football season. We're underway, we are, We're here, and it's it's awesome. It makes me super super super pumps to have you here along with us. Fantasy football season is clearly underway. We had a massive argument breakout in the control room down stairs over Leonard four Net, which is excited to get him next week. Unfortunately we're doing the NFC South to the South,

so I'd love to hear coming up next week. Might have to invite Sean Gassimakia and Steve sata boy E y s thoughts on four Nett as well, um, but with just an to do it before the break and I'm not gonna start the next team yet, but any other thoughts Frankie when it comes to Atlanta or New Orleans since yesterday, No, I mean nothing really stands out. I think we got to a lot of them. Like we didn't really talk about Jared Cook. I mean we'll have time to do that once we get into like

position previews. So then we'll get into Jared Cook and how he fits in with the New Orleans Saints. But again, if we expect their pass volume to come down a little bit, then is there really going to be that much to go around with Jared Cook? So when we get into the tight ends later on in the draft season, we'll talk about Jared Cook. All right, we'll take a break. When we come back, Eric Young, Frank Stample and myself breakdown now Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Bruce Arians back and why

it matters to us and that comes your way next. Hey, thanks for downloading the podcast, and remember if you want to listen live, download the I Heart Radio app, download the tune and app and just search for Fantasy Sports Radio Network and you could listen to this program live. Also, if you want to watch the video of this podcast, check us out on YouTube, on Twitch, or on Periscope and type in you guess dude, Fantasy Sports Network. You'll find us there. Enjoyed the show and face for listening.

Back with you, BFFs, Frank Stamford, Gregg Sauceman, Eric Young alongside. Let's not waste any more time, guys, Let's get right into it. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have long been a place for fantasy goodness or wanted fantasy goodness, from Jameis Winston onto the running Max and certainly to Mike Evans, who was drafted just a year or two ago as a top five wide receiver. Well it's not going as that so much anymore. But now that Bruce Arians is there,

everyone's back on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers bandwagon. Arian's got a year off to refresh himself and now we all jump back in. So I'm gonna start with you. Is it a bit premature to jump back in on a Bruce Arians offense. I mean, by the time he was done in Arizona. Maybe it was based on their quarterback usuing all the injuries, but it kind of just felt like he was mentally done, that what he believed in the NFL didn't necessarily work as well as it did

in his early years with the Cardinals. Again, it could be really the injuries, certainly, and it could be related to just getting a mental break. But now he's in Tampa Bay. Is it all just gonna go back to what we thought it should be? For me, this is a super interesting coaching change. Um. I like Bruce Arians. I loved the Cardinals. Um I have a couple of

Cardinals hats. I'm kind of high on the Cardinals this year just because all the interesting stories drafting Murray in the first round and this new offense that's supposed to be prolific and it's college style and will it work in the NFL? But Arians was was that guy first? You know, he was doing different kinds of things five or six years ago, and I loved his coaching style.

I think it fell off. I mean with anything, things gets dale and and with coaching, I think, you know, players eventually stopped hearing your voice and stop doing what they're told, and you get tired of the same old things and him saying the same things. All coaches have a shelf life, except for Bill Belichick. Maybe, um so, maybe it was hard for him to move on, hoping he comes in fresh. They are loaded with talent all over the field. On the offensive side of the ball,

and I'm I'm pump man like I got. Mike Evans is my tenth overall pick. Mike Evans tenth overall on eui's big board. He is buying, he is buying hard on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Frankie, you're right there with him. Yeah, yeah. And I think a lot of what happened with Bruce Arians the down years that he had as their head coach, specifically their offense was due to injuries. Greg. If you look at the five years that he was with the Cardinals,

they ranked top twelve in total offense. The three years that Carson Palmer was healthy in they ranked twenty four. Carson Palmer got hurt. That was the year that Drew Stanton stepped in and seen the final season that Bruce Arians was there calling plays, Carson Palmer also got hurt, and then blame Gabbert All No blame Gabbert. Journeyman in the NFL came in, stepped in in their offense ranked twenty two. But let's not forget Carson Palmer put together

a career year through like thirty five touchdowns. Their offense finished first overall in the entire NFL total offense they finished first, So I think that there's a lot to be excited about with not only Bruce Arian's mindset, but obviously the weapons at the Tampa Bay Bucks possessed because they have Damis Winston, who obviously brings a high pedigree. Because of where he was drafted in the NFL draft,

he hasn't been able to necessarily put it together. They have Mike Evans, they have Chris Godwin, they have Ronald Jones, and they also have O. J. Howard. So there's a lot of really interesting pieces on this offense. I'm I'm close to where e Y is that I'm very excited about both this marriage of Bruce arians style of offense and the weapons that they have there already. Greg, all right,

so let's let's start here with like Evans. He said he's the number ten overall player on his word, I'm looking at like my Scot's fish bol For instance, Mike Evans wound up being the eighth wide receiver taken. I'm not worried about where he went because the quirky rules or whatnot. He was the eighth wide receiver taken after Hopkins, Adams, Julio Michael Thomas, juju Um, Keenan Allen, and Odell Beckham Jr. That sounds right to you, Frank, I think that Mike

Evans should live in the second round. I would probably take him ahead of Antonio Brown just because I liked the Bucks offense a little bit more. Uh. Look, Antonio Brown is gonna be a target monster this year. And we'll get into more of the Raiders talk when we get to the a f C. West. But I just think Mike Evans is potential for targets. His efficiency went up last year. His potential for touchdowns, which we've you know, we've seen in the past. He has two seasons of

double dig touchdowns already in his career. I mean, I looked this up before the show. Greg. There's an awesome stat on Mike Evans. He joins A. J. Green and Randy Moss is the only players in NFL history to start their career with five consecutive seasons of one thousand receiving yards. So, I mean, that's that's pretty good territory to be in there. We know that the talent is

there with Mike Evans. Um, you know, a hundred and seventy nine targets are gone from this team now, with Adam Humphries gone, with the Shawan Jackson gone from this team, and you know that's why people are buying into Chris Godwin, which we'll get into. But look, there's a lot of targets gone, and Mike Evans was already a target monster. So I think the potential for UH targets, receptions, yards

and touchdowns it's all there for Mike Evans. I mean again, it's just the marriage is perfect here for fantasy purposes. Greg Eric Frankie mentioned Chris Godwin, who, much like Hanny Golladay, bursted onto the scene in middle round pick and people were immediately excited about him. Now Tam was clearly excited about him. With Bruisiians as the head coaches, they didn't do anything to replace Adam Hume Freeze or do anything to replace the Sean Jackson. They just like Chris Godwin.

It's your time, now, how early would you draft Chris Godwin? Um? I I feel like the hype is kind of getting out of control, but this happens with players that that show. He looked really good last year, even in a not massive role, but having Humphrey's gone and the offense is going to be different. I think they're going to throw the ball more. The running game is questionable. Um, I think with between the two guys, I think it can

be serviceable. Ron Jones is a sleeper of mine. I'm not going to pick him high or anything, but if he's there and like the mid to later rounds, I'm going to take him because of his pedigree. Obviously last year was a nightmare. But um, Bruce Arians and whoever the number one running back, that's that's a recipe for success. So Chris Godwin, I mean where he's going now, I think it is still okay. But I think as as

it goes, he's going to keep moving up. Since July on the NFC, Chris Godwin is the twentie wide receiver off the board that is at pick forty seven pick forty seven on average. But how can you argue it though, I mean the opportunity is there. He's going to start on the outside. I mean he's a verse of a wide receiver too. He can move inside. We saw it that last year. You can play a little bit in the slot. He could play on the outside as well. Greg he led this team in red zone targets last

year with sixteen only playing scent of the snaps. So I would imagine, as you know, he steps into an every down kind of role now as a starter, and he's playing more snaps in that snap percentage you know, gets up over eighty five percent of the snaps. You know, more targets will be there, obviously, you know, I mentioned how many targets are up for grabs with Adam Humphreys now gone and DeShawn Jackson now gone, he's flashed. I mean, I think he could do a little bit of everything.

I think he's a good route runner. I think he has strong hands, you know. I think he could be a possession receiver. I think they can use him in the red zone if teams are double teaming Mike Evans. It's hard for me to really critique where he's going in draft because at a DP right now, I mean, at that four or five turn, he's go right around guys like d J. Moore, Mike Williams, Tyler Lockett, Calvin Ridley.

These are all breakout candidates. And you can argue that his opportunity, coupled with bruce Arians mindset and the scheme here, the fit and you know what we expect James Winston to do. How can you argue with him going ahead of all those other breakout candidates. I think his opportunity is probably the best. I think this area is probably right. I think it a lot of it doesn't depend on what you're looking for you looking at it. But it

surprised you if he's better than Robert Woods. Greig. I know you're the Robert Woods guy, but there's three wide receivers in Los Angeles compared to two wide receivers for Tampa. I know James he's gonna get his too, but is he gonna get as many targets as like the third

wide receiver for the Los Angeles Rams. I'm not so sure he's gonna get that many receiver in the Los Angeles right, But we know that they mix and match, you know, like they're pretty consistent for the most part, but most of like is it are all three of them going to go off in every single game? I guess my question is when you look at Bruce arians historically, has he even able to And I don't know the answer.

I'm just throwing it out there to you guys, like hasn't been able to have an offense that boasts two thousand yard type of wide receivers because you're at the guy at twenty overall, you want the potential to have a thousand yards, to have closest double digit touchdowns. Can this offense produce that well? I know he did it one year with he put together Fitzgerald and John Brown

when John Brown was still in Arizona. And then was John Brown's career year right where he went up over a thousand yards and he had like six or seven touchdowns, finishes like a top twenty four wide receiver. And I think that's what we're expecting Chris Godwin to do and just to piggyback off of you know what Ey said. Look, we could be excited about Ronald Jones. We'll talk about that more when we get back, but they don't really have a run game to speak of as of now.

So if they have to lean more on the pass, I think that only works in the favor of both Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. I think this Tampa Bay team is gonna have to throw the ball even more than the Arizona Cardinals had to do in years past. When Bruce Haarians was with them. Let's take a break here e I mentioned Ronald Jones as a sleeper. We'll get Frank's thoughts on that coming up next. From the NFL to the NBA. Daily Rohodo dot com is the

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to mention Ronald Jones here in year two. You're talking downstairs about Philip Lindsay in year two, and of course that inevitably leads to Ronald Jones, who struggled all last year injuries and ineffectiveness. And yet all season long we were on the bandwagon, off the bandwagon, and all the bandwagon we kept wanting to believe. Well, you can keep believing it never never happened. Peyton Barber almost from day one, held on to that job, and end of the season

with that job. Reports had a training camp, say or not training camp, minicamp say, Peyton Barber's still a guy. But fantasy owners are rightfully so look the talent of Ronald Jones. Look at what Bruce Arians has worked with before, specifically David Johnson, and you're like, well, Ronald Jones best fits that profile. Fantasy owners right now, Frank are getting in on Ronald Jones. And and the discount isn't exactly well huge by any means. People seem to like Ronald Jones.

If you look at the running backs over the nffc Ronald Jones is going off the board as the thirty eight running back around pick one oh five. It's not terrible, it's not outstanding. I would say, what do you think about Ronald Jones going forward? I'm interested? How can you not be right everything we just said about the Tampa bay Bucks offense. We expect them to score a lot of points this year. They're gonna get down the field. Look,

it's more so a vertical passing attack. But we have seen the upside of what a running back can do inside of Bruce arians offense. Now, I will say this, outside of that one monstrous David Johnson season, it's not like Bruce Arians produce a ton of fantasy viable running backs. There were years where like Andre Ellington let us down Chris Johnson was the starting running back in Arizona, and maybe he just didn't have the right running back for

his system. And maybe, you know, once he got a guy like David Johnson, he was able to bring that to fruition. But Ronald Jones has the has a has the potential to start for this Tampa Bay Bucks team heading into the season. And if you look at his ADP right now you mentioned it, Greg, He's going around you know, one oh five a DP. He's one of the last potential starting running backs being drafted off the

board right now. There was a report, you know, a couple of weeks back that Greg Allman of the Athletics said that he still expects, you know, Peyton barber to lead this team in in rushing attempts and rushing yards. And you know, with all due respect to to Greg Alman, look he's he's around the team a lot, so he's got a pulse of what's going on there. Peyton barbera's average three point eight yards for carrying. The question is Greg Allman related to Dwayne Allman? I don't even know

who Dayne Alman is. Greg. What it was there was a Greg all of an Allman brothers joke. Come on, I couldn't say that I knew their first name. Continue, I have like five of their records downstairs. I just don't know the first name. Basis well, I knew Greg Allman and telling hiout Greg Allman or whatever. I'm pretty sure it's spelt differently to Greg. But we'll let you rock for now. Look, the fact of the matter comes

down to where Ronald Jones being drafted right now. It would be one of the last starting running backs off the board. You're getting at a good discount. You're getting him in the nine tenth round. I wouldn't want him as my RB three. I wouldn't want him starting on my team. I wouldn't even want him as my starting flecks to start the year. But if I could get him as my RB four as some depth and with the potential to start on a really good offense where we expect him to score a lot of points, I'm

not gonna downplay his pedigree. Look, he was a second round pick, but he wasn't Bruise arians second round pick. That is true. It was. It was the same GM, but not but not the same not the same coaching staff. So you know, he's kind of inheriting that too. But again, like they hate him. It's it's not like it's not like Bruce Arians wanted Peyton Barbera on the team either. But they didn't do anything any of these players. You didn't pick any of these players. I mean, someone's gonna play. Yeah.

I don't like that argument. I don't think it's silly, Okay, but I look, they had all off season to go out and bring in a running back Craig draft one, you know, sign a Levian Bell, sign a mark Ingram something like that, and they didn't. So maybe Bruce Arians likes one of these two, and Ronald Jones has the pedigree. Peyton barbara wasn't in draft undrafted free agent. You brought up the fact that in the past, like I got, like Andre Ellington led the way and they didn't really

run the ball. Ultimately, they tried and it stopped. It's not it's certainly possible they do that. But I agree ultimately, Ei like where he's going around pick one oh five, that's probably that's fine. That's not costing you all that much. It's not insignificant, but it's not costing you all that much. Ultimately, let me get to O. J. Howard and Jameis Winston here Wednesday. Tumultuous season last year, So Moulture's last couple

of years. I'd say under Dirk Cutter, this is his last shot, essentially under Brusarians O J. Howard in year two cameraon Brad coming off an injury. People are really investing on both of these guys. E y, are you you on both O. J. Howard and Jamis Winston? Yeah? I think I am. And I think that just comes down to I believe in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense. And look, if I believe in their offense, I have

to believe in their starting quarterback. My my hope is that Jamis Winston has matured and has become a growing up and in his taking his craft serious. He's got every two a possible big guy, can move pretty decent, can run a little bit, can make every throw short, long,

decent accuracy. Like he is a superstar quarterback. I mean, he has the ability to be a superstar quarterback, and I think the mental side of it is the only thing stopping him, and in the end, in the NFL, the mental side is the only thing that stops all these guys. They're all freak athletes. They're all playing in the NFL because they're in the five percentile of freak athletes in the world. And but what separates them is their mental side, their preparation, uh, you know, being able

to bounce back from mistakes, things like that. I think this is going to be his biggest year yet. And I believe that because he's older, hoping that he's more mature, will approach the game. And he now he's back up is backs up against the wall with professional athletes, with people in general, this is where we get to see what you're really made of. And I think he's gonna do well. I think he's gonna end up as a

top ten quarterback this year. And e Y staring around the term freak athlete, find it interesting because you know, e Y knows what a freak athlete looks like. He has a freak athlete himself. I work with a bunch of them, and he works with a bunch of them, So no, you're absolutely right. Look, Jameis Winson is in

a great spot here. I saw have some question marks about the offensive line the rank according to Football Focus, but in terms of the weapons, again, the weapons and the scheme and having Bruce arians there, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, O J Howard. You know I said this about Carson Wentz. It's not to the same level. But everything is set up here for Jameis Winston to have a monster year. So, UH, the defense is I still don't expect the defense to be very good. They invested a lot in the draft.

You know, they brought in some guys in the UH through free agency, Shaquill Barrett and Dion Buchanan. But I still don't think that this defense is gonna turn around right away. And that was that led to a lot of the fantasy production last year is the fact that they were trailing a lot in games and they had to throw the football. Jamis Winston looked some of the positives for him. Two sixty passing yards per game in his career, seven point six yards per tempt. Those are

both good numbers. He actually averaged a career ards twenty five rushing yards per game last season. The negatives greg the turnovers. We have fifty eight career interceptions in fifty six games. That's not gonna had the job done. He's got to cut down on the interceptions. He can make every throw. I mean there were a few games I watched last year with James Winston. He would make some of these throws that and it's baffling to me. And it's honestly, it's frustrating because he can make throws in

the NFL that other people can't make. He can flat out he can make all the throws. But Ey is just right about it's the mental capacity. That's the step that he has to take this year, and it's really his last chance. So many different quarterbacks that choose from. Obviously, another one we're gonna get to in a moment is Cam Newton, and I'm excited about him very very much so just based on his ADP. More so for me

that jameis Winston. O J. Howard I mentioned, and the tight end position always seems to be very very tough to fill um O J. Howard has that pedigree. Top ten draft pick, he's draft being drafted is a top five tight end right now? Does that make sense to you, guys? Yeah? I think it does. I want one of those top six tight ends this year. It's it's it's a very

obvious group. You have your type, your your top three guys, in Travis Kelly, see Zach Ertz and George Kittle, and then you have that next year of really talented tight ends that we expect to make that next step in O. J. Howard, Hunter, Henry, and we spoke of Evan Ingram the other day as well. But I have a little stat here for you when it comes to O. J. Howard, greg and it is with de Sean Jackson and Adam Humphrey still on the team. Last year, his sixteen game pace was fifty five receptions,

nine yards and eight touchdowns. They're now gone again. It's a hundred and seventy nine targets up for grabs. So I know that typically in years past, excuse me, Bruce arians hasn't really used the tight end all that much, but he's never had a tight end this good. Um, And we know that O. J. Howard's gonna be on the field a lot because he's a really good pass blocker and you know, he could play the slot, he can play on the outside as well. It's just really

really versatile tight end here. And I think he's one of the you know, top we're talking about physical freaks. I think he's one of the top two three among the tight end position in the NFL. I think every thing is set up for O. J. Howard to have him monster year. I haven't done my rankings yet, but I think, off the top of my head, I would rather have him over both Angram and Hunter Henry. He's probably gonna be my tight end four once the once the rankings get published, gig all right and e y

us you a new problem either? Yeah, yeah, I mean, this guy is a freak. I think he might be the best athlete at the tight end position overall. Um, he's got everything that makes a superstar tight end. He's proven that he can do it. They just gotta get him in the ball and he's got to stay on the field. All Right, we got about a minute remaining. I want to get to Carolina on the other side. So, is there anything else with Tampa Bay that we need

to know about guests? Well, we didn't really talk about Peyton Barber. He is going about like thirty thirty five picks later than Ronald Jones looked. There's nothing to be excited here in terms of upside, and for PPR leagues offers next to nothing. But you know, if you take Ronald Jones, it's very easy to just lock up the Tampa Bay backfield. Greg, you can invest your ninth and eleventh round picks or ninth and twelveth on picks, and

then you have the Tampa Bay backfield. So I just thought it was worth mentioning based on the report from Greg Allman, who still expects Peyton Barbera to be the starting running back Dayne's brother. He's just going super late, so I don't really want him. There's not a lot of upside, but it's very easy to lock up both Tampa Bay running backs this year. We talked about how hard it is to do with some of these other

backfields potentially. Yeah, I mean with the Rams, you have to use your first in your sixth round picks right now, crazy, We'll take the break, We'll come back. Carolina is up next. Hey, thanks for downloading the podcast, and remember if you want to listen live, download the I Heart Radio app, download the tune and app and just search for Fantasy Sports

Radio Network and you could listen to this program live. Also, if you want to watch the video of this podcast, check us out on YouTube, on twitch, or on periscope and type in you guess dud Fantasy Sports Network. You'll find us there. Enjoy the show and face for listening. So we're back the BFFs, Eric Young, Frank Standfile, Grex Sum. We're done with Tampa Bay. One last team left in then NFC South to get to and it's the Carolina Panthers. And I mentioned before that I once again feel that

Cam Newton is an undervalued commodity. If you look at the NFFC again, since the beginning of July, Cam Newton is not being drafted as a top ten quarterback. He's being drafted at number twelve, right barely in front of Kyler Murray. Is the Cam Newton that a year ago or two years ago, it was number one quarterback in the league. We had a conversation that you got a draft this guy inside the top five quarterbacks going forward yet major injury issues. But this offense. We talked about

things changing with We talked about being smart. Savage is the same as as always been. I know the turners are there now just as they were last year. What if he's healthy, you know Cam is gonna run. You know he's gonna fall into the end zone. That's what he does. I think getting Cam Newton is a twelfth quarterback off the board. I love it. Man. You don't even pick one oh three right around where you're getting Ronald Jones. You mean Cam Newton every time that if

he's healthy, Greg is a very big if. Though there's a lot of players you can say that about. It's true, but with a quarterback, specifically arthurscopic shoulder surgery in the off season. They labeled it as a clean up whatever. That's clean up YEA, to clean up, you know, just you know, spray a little, you know, something on it, you clean it up. Whatever. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it really works that way Greg. But here's what I'll say about Cam Newton. I think he took strides

forward last year in terms of his completion percentage. Obviously a lot of that was just throwing dump offs to Christian McCaffrey. What sixty seven point nine percent completion That was a massive, massive uptick for him in Norv Turner's office, I really thought Nerve Turner did a great job and getting the most out of Cam Newton, getting the most out of Christian McCaffrey and the rest of their weapons. But his ability to run is going to be dependent on how healthy he is, Greg, and we saw that

last year. In his first eight games, nine point one rushing attempts per game, forty two point eight rushing yards per game. All four of his rushing touchdowns came during that nine game stretch. His his next his next six games four point six rushing attempts per game, twenty four point three rushing yards for games. So I mean, look, the numbers went down tremendously, zero rushing touchdowns, and during

that stretch he was QB twelve. The first eight games that he played, he was QB two overall, So so much of his value was just dependent on if he's healthy enough to run, and the fact that we have this question mark about him coming off shoulder surgery. I agree with you that you're getting him at a really nice discount. Greg. I'm more willing to take Cam Newton in a one quarterback league because I'm going to be confident in my ability to get a serviceable backup for

him in case he gets hurt. But if I play in super Flex and Cam Newton goes down and he's one of my quarterbacks or my super Flex, I'm screwed. So I'm more apt to take him in a one quarterback league where I could get a really good backup for him. Greg, what do you think about him Newton this year? Eric, Yeah, I think with that style of play, and I mean the way he's played his entire career college and pro is is it's not if he's going to get hurt, it's when he's going to get hurt.

As far as a single quarterback rea draft league, look, Kim Newton is a fantasy stud with the touchdowns, running the ball, um having McCaffrey there where he can just do these small dumps and McCaffrey could take it, you know, ten yards. That's how is his stats? Improof? Like I mean, to me, it's a no brainer. Who do I throw it? Do I throw it to the best player on the field? That makes complete sense to me. But Cam, it's a huge risk. It can be a huge reward, but you

have to be ready to put someone else in. My suggestion is maybe even taking another quarter back at the at the end of your draft, if there's a good one available, then that way you know you have somebody and you don't have the scoop off, some plug off the off the waiver wire a Week five or six kind of like you were saying, Frank, make sure you have a good backup and not some scrub that you're plugging off the waiver wire later in the year because

of that injury risk that Cam Newton presents. Now, Eric was saying that smart strategy. You just dumped the ball off to your best player and kind of let him do his thing. No, I don't really want to go into Christian miccaffrey all too much, because we talked about Camary yesterday. Got it. There's nobody else there. He's a top three pick. You can make the case from a number one, number two, number three. I don't want to have the argument. We have not enough time to do it.

But I want to talk about who else Cam Newton's gonna dump that ball off too outside of CMC. And that's d J. Moore and that's Curtis Samuel. Kelvin Benjamin was drafted several years ago to be the number one wide receiver and he was for about a year. Devin Functions was drafted to replace Kelvin Benjamin and he did for about it. You are neither of those guys are there anymore? D J. Moore and Curtis Samuel are the number one number two wide receivers theoretically on the team.

Their fantasy values kind of open the air right now, Eric, if you have to pick one of those players, Curtis Samuel or d J. Moore in a vacuum, who would you rather draft? I feel like the more valuable is Curtis Samuel because you can get him way later. And I mean, I don't think anyone honestly could tell you which one of those guys is gonna pen out. They're kind of the same type of receiver UM with with

Funchs and Benjamin. Those were guys. They run down the field, he throws it, they jump up in the air, and they fall into the m zone. That's the kind of receivers that both of those guys were. These guys are much different. They can line up all over the field, they can play outside, they can play slot slot. But they're not big bodies, neither of them. Um So for me, I I would pick more first if he felt to

me far enough. But I think the better value is Curtis Samuel because Curtis Samuel could end up being the number one wide receiver there in Carolina. The number one right receiver is going to be Christian McCaffrey. That's true. Yeah, the number one receiver on the team is going to be McCaffrey. We saw that last year. He led all running backs and targets and receptions a hundred and seven

receptions for Christian McCaffrey last year. If you got those numbers out of your wide receiver, you'd be happy let let alone from a running back. But I do agree with e Y in terms of the value right now, Curtis Samuel does present more value. True story, Greg. We are going to do a Fandel Hurry video today where I will present six busts, and originally I had d

J Moore as one of my bust. I started looking into him, and the more I looked into him, I realized there's not really much much that I could say bad about DJ Moore outside of where he's being drafted right now, and even that we mentioned it earlier, he's being drafted right around Chris Godwin. All the breakout wide receivers are going that same range. It's you know, it's at four or five turn. It's late fourth early fifth round, and when you draft them there, that's the fourth or

fifth round. You can't have them. Must like me, you that safety at four or five because if they bust, you're screwed. But you can pretty much say that about all those wide receivers being there, like, is there a safe wide receiver there? It's you know, it's a lot of guys who are expecting to take that next step. It's Calvin Ridley, it's Tyler Lockett, it's Chris Godwin. You know, it's guys that we haven't necessarily seen do it over

the course of a full season. So if you go a little bit, you go a little bit later than that. Like someone like Cooper Cup is probably safer, that's probably true, But cutting off a torn a C is Tyler Lockett safer? He's probably safer because we kind of saw him do it last year, but just on really low volume. He was like record setting efficiency Tyler Lockett was last year. I think he finished as a top twenty wide receiver.

You didn't even have a hundred targets last year. So again, we'll get into that when we get to the NFC West. But look, a lot of these wide receivers are going in the same range, and I think d J. Moore has the opportunity to break out here Greg because I think outside of McCaffrey. He's probably going to be the second most targeted player on this team. I think he is a and it's not a knock on Curtis Samuel.

I think d J. Moore is a more complete wide receiver then yeah, but yeah, but it was drafted in the first round. D J. Moore was, and over the final nine weeks of the season, he played over of the snaps in eight of those games, and you know, we start to saw him take off a little bit. Thirteenth in the NFL in yards after after the catch while he wasn't even a full time starter for the most of the season. So he's dangerous in that regard. Nine point six yards per target that was nineteenth among

wide receivers. So he makes the most of his opportunity. Originally I thought he was going too high, but when you compare him to other wide receivers going in that range, I understand why people are excited about d J. Moore. If I had to choose who's the better value right now, it's Curtis Samuel. I mean, there's no doubt about it. He's going sixty picks later right now, and he could have a similar opportunity to d J Moore a Swiss Army knife. You know. They can line them up in

the backfield, get a few rushing attempts. They can use them for end around screenplays, quick slants. He can catch the ball down the field as well. I mean, really two versatile wide receivers. I'd rather have Curtis Samuel for the value, but I can't really get mad at people for expecting the breakout from d J Moore as well. I do want to mention also on this team, outside of d J Moore and Curtis Samuel, you have Tori Smith,

you have jerryus right who comes over from Minnesota. And it's still Chris Hogan season Chris Hogan member of the Carolina Panthers as well. So there's a lot of names there, but the two that you trust most that are gonna be on the field consistently as they're two starting wide receivers, it's gonna be Curtis Samuel and d J Moore at least. Actually so I think so. But I will say this on our lads dot com, which is evil scouting service, they have Curtis Samuel listens as the third wide receiver

behind d J Moore. Like behind Toria Smith's Like, there's just a lot of names there. I mean a lot of NFL teams use three wide receiver sets often now definitely, I think it all move around like playing the slot, DJ Moreker play in the slot with Moore, Smith, Samuel right In Hogan, a lot of like similar guys Like I don't know, I just don't expect Chris Hogan or Tory Smith or Right to really demand any targets. I don't really think that any of them have done anything

in their career. I mean, you know, sens Tory Smith a couple of years with the Ravens, But I don't know that any of those wide receivers at this point in their career, what they've done, what their pedigree is, just overall their skill level, do they deserve to get that massive target share? Uh, the answer for me would be no. So that's why I think Samuel and d J. Moore are entrenches the top two wide receivers on this team and should get the most opportunity in that regard.

What other of you guys will start with you taking a chance of Greg Olson here, I don't think so, man. I mean, okay, I don't you just don't retire and then come back and are efficient. I just I just don't believe that he's going to be who he was. Uh. Ian Thomas is interesting to me because I feel like the Carolina Panthers are a team that throws to the

tight end, especially in the red zone. And I don't know if that was because Greg Olsen was so good, but I feel like that scheme is set with all those kind of like not gadget players, but like what Frank said's kind of Swiss army knife players and you're kind of moving them all around and there is no real big body on the team. Ian Thomas could be a touchdown guy. Okay, I don't really have much interest

in Greg Olson. Actually kind of wish that Greg Olson would have retired because then um Ian Thomas would be the starting tight end. And he kind of flashed a little bit down the stretch. I mean three of his last four games he was either seventy over seventy five yards or scored a touchdown in three of those four games. So he flashed a little bit. Uh. He had some pedigree coming out of college as well. I mean he

was a productive college player. There was a lot expected from Ian Thomas, and I think maybe eventually he's the only twenty three years old, he could develop into a fantasy viable tight end. So for those who play in dynasty leagues or you know, deeper keeper leagues where you know tight ends get a premium or anything like that, then I would have interest in Ian Thomas for the future. I just don't know if it's gonna happen this year, barring on greg Olsen gets hurt. I just don't know

that it's gonna happen. But I don't I don't really have much interest in Greg Olsen because this offense has changed. Everything used to go through him, but now he's really fourth in the pecking order behind McCaffrey, d J. Moore and Churs Samuel. He's Cameron Artist pain the handcuffed Christian McCaffrey, I guess, but I mean, I mean the guy, Christian McCaffrey. I was gonna mention this stat earlier on and it's

it's not one that comes from me. It's actually from Ben Gretch following on Twitter at yards Pergretti of uh, I don't know if that's true. He works with CBS Sports. He had this awesome stat about Christian McCaffrey. He played of the snaps eight different times last year. That was done only three other times by all the running backs

in the NFL combined. So that kind of usage is exactly why Christian McCaffrey goes as one of the top four running backs and can flirt with being the top running back because he plays as many snaps as he does. They don't really have a serviceable backup. They're not really gonna come off the field. And if you've seen any pictures of him in the off season, he basically looks

like a white miniature version of the Incredible Hope. It's insane, like you might be able to get you might be able to work him into like a w W contract if you wanted to e y, because honestly, Christian McCaffrey is jacked out of his mind. Now, Yeah, it's it's madness, man. And I will say this, Uh, he was a guy that I don't think I was ever super high on. Um I just thought that maybe he wouldn't be able to hold up. But um man, he won't a season last year, and I think he's gonna be a beast

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missed on the BFFs. Mike Evans tenth overall on ei S Big Board. He is buying up. He is buying hard on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Frankie, you're right there with him. Yeah, yeah. And I think a lot of what happened with Bruce Arians the down years that he had as their head coach, specifically their offense, was due to injuries. Greg. If you look at the five years that he was with the Cardinals, they ranked top twelve in total offense. The three years that Carson Palmer was healthy.

In fourteen, they ranked twenty four. Carson Palmer got hurt. That was the year that Drew Stanton stepped in. And then in seventeen, the final season that Bruce Arians was there calling plays, Carson Palmer also got hurt, and then Blaine Gabbert all no blame Gabbert, journeyman in the NFL, came in stepped in and their offense ranked twenty two. But let's not forget Carson Palmer put together a career

year through like thirty five touchdowns. Their offense finished first overall in the entire NFL total offense, they finished first. So I think that there's a lot to be excited about with not only Bruce arians mindset, but obviously the weapons at the Tampa Bay Bucks possessed because they have Jamis Winston, who obviously brings a high pedigree. Because of where he was drafted in the NFL draft, he hasn't

been able to necessarily put it together. They have Mike Evans, they have Chris Godwin, they have Ronald Jones, and they also have O. J. Howard. So there's a lot of really interesting pieces on this offense. I'm I'm close to where e Y is that I'm very excited about this marriage of Bruce Arians style of offense and the weapons that they have there already. Greg, all right, so let's let's start here with Mike Evins. He said he's the number ten overall player on his board. I'm looking at

like my Scott's fish Well. For instance, Mike Evans wound up being the eighth wide receiver taken. I'm not worried about where he went because the quirky rules and whatnot. He was the eighth wide receiver taken after Hopkins, Adams, Julio, Michael Thomas, juju Um, Keenan Allen, and Odell Beckham Jr. That sounds right to you, Frank, Mike Evans should live in the second round. I would probably take him ahead of Antonio Browns just because I like the Bucks offense

a little bit more. Uh. Look, Antonio brown is gonna be a target monster this year. And we'll get into more of the Raiders talk when we get to the a f C West. But I just think Mike Evans is potential for targets, his efficiency went up last year, his potential for touchdowns, which we've you know, we've seen in the past. He has two seasons of double dug touchdowns already in his rear. I mean I looked this up before the show. Greg. There's an awesome stat on

Mike Evans. He joins A. J. Green and Randy Moss is the only players in NFL history to start their career with five consecutive seasons of one thousand receiving yards. So I mean, that's that's pretty good territory to be in there. We know that the talent is there with Mike Evans. Um you know, a hundred and seventy nine targets are gone from this team now, with Adam Humphries gone, with the Shawn Jackson gone from this team, and you

know that's why people are buying too. Chris Godwin, which we'll get into But look, there's a lot of targets gone, and Mike Evans was already a target monster. So I think the potential for UH targets, receptions, yards, and touchdowns, it's all there.