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Fantasy best Friends Forever, m Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do do Yo. This is the Fantasy best Friends Forever here on the Fantasy Sports Radio your Network alongside Frankie Stamfell. I am Greg Sauceman. Frank what's going on? Yes, that is what's going on. Tell me that like whenever from probably three but like three hours or four hours from now, I'm gonna feel I'm gonna run home. I'm gonna feel like Cory. Honestly,
I'm going to run home. Open whatever is in the apartment and immediately down it the closest I PA that you can closest I V I could find the ivy's gonna get you man, like I had a buddy those things. I mean, that's part of the reason why it probably takes me a little more. Like I drink crappy like whatever bud light. Yeah, don't mock you background dude, Like I didn't. I feel so old in saying this, and
I never felt like this before. But like, I had a housewarming last night for a buddy, like within a new apartment whatever. So we all went somebody's birthday also, and I had like, I jook him quickly because I enjoy them, you know, And then next thing, you know, it's just like you're feeling something when you just did not expect that. I don't feel that often because personally, I don't like I p a. I will tell you this, Greg, I've ventured outside of crappy light beer a little bit
more recently. I've been drinking blue Point summer ow very good. Oh you're you're in the summer else. That's cool? Yeah you madam somewhere else? Pretty good. Favorite. I love the blue Have you tried the Bluepoint suwherew I have? It's good, It's very good. It's good. It's a little too um no like, but it's pretty good. Someone's buying us drink today. Is that correct? Yes, our guy Constantine said he's going to meet up like four thirty here, be fantastic. So
he already bought me a beer at the game. He'll probably buy me another beer. You have to. He doesn't have to write, but I have a feeling he will, and he in turn he will earn himself a beer. We will be happy to buy him a beer. Look, we've advertised this deal for a long time. Constantine is can take yourself on it. Probably about I want to see six to eight months down. No one has seen
myself on the offer like that except Constantine. Yeah. I'm excited to have a drink the Constantine, and hopefully more than one. Yeah, you guys want a beer, come here, you can see it last beers. I like look in the mirror today and like looking at the bags in your eyes and like they're only getting worse. You noticed that also, you're starting to look like a little bit you think, so, yeah, I see it's not gonna shave you start you start doing like a little little fox
hawk thing. You just try it, but like let the let the goatee come in, just let everything hang out. You what's funny? So last night, I matter not this thing, and my friend's girlfriend was literal or fiance was literally like, do you need a haircut? Like she? It wasn't like my friend or my girlfriend, it was her. This is a need a haircut. Haircuts is where we've gotten. What do you think of my hair? Greg? I ask you this earlier. I said, I have a very serious question.
How does my hair look? That's fine? Well Max Massive doesn't like my hair like hair. I'm sorry, Greg, Yo, Frank, your hair sucks. What is this? It's kind of fair, kind looks like boy meets the world type thing. I'm totally down with it, though. Yeah, I think that's kind of what I was. I don't really know him anymore. Yeah, it's honestly just too long. I don't know what to do in the morning with it. Why does you shave
it off? I don't know a good question. That you're gonna let let it grow for a while and then you're done with that. It's just I One of the things I hate in this world is well, that too, is showering in the morning. I just want to roll out of bed and just like brush my teeth and go to work. I love showering. The morning shower at night. UM, I just want to do as little as possible before I have to leave us go to work and coming here that are coming here that early, I know it's
not a morning person, Like, yeah you're not. Frank's very ground you early in the morning. Um has been terrible for a week or two now. So like your okay, like my hair, so okay. We have we spent all we talking about running backs. We're gonna do that today. Monday's to be an auction show. Drew, I don't think that have Drew Dickmyer on the program as well, so that canna be cool. But today we want to we want to to finish out the running backs, the names.
We haven't gotten to the handcuffs, and I wanted to start kind of where we ended yesterday, which was with Kenyan Drake. Now you said I'm still buying Kenyan Drake and you're still off of j G. I. Those are the last two, if I'm I'm correct, Frankie, that we ended with. Yeah, we spoke a little bit of teammates mark Ingram Yeah, I think yeah. We ended around that like top twenty four range. We didn't really get into like the rookies, carry On Johnson, Ronald Jones, Isaiah Crowell.
Look a little bit about Jamal Williams, who did get banged up last night, so we have to see what happens there. But yeah, I think that's kind of the range we were at. We're like just outside the top twenty. Okay, So what you want to talk about those guys now? Yeah? Right, Well, you know, I love carry On Johnson. I've been talking about him for a while. Now. I look, it's just a lot of the same that I've been saying. I think the offensive line, I think they're one of the
most underrated groups. They drafted Frank right now, um Taylor Deck is healthy again. With this team, I think they're gonna be a more balanced approach. We saw carry On Johnson did in that first game, what his usage was. We saw that long run that he ripped off. I think that they're grooming this guy to be their work horse running back. Eventually, it's not gonna happen out of the gate. They signed with Garrett Blunt for a reason. They still have Theo Riddic, But I think people are
overrating THEO Rick a little bit too much. Like if carry On Johnson performs well in what they want him to do in both running and catching the ball out of the backfield. I can see THEO Riddick's role really diminishing this season. Yeah so so for me, I was not the hot guy on carry On Johnson. Early on, UM, I had a pretty low He's my lowest ranked rookie running back. Now I believe it's the second highest due
to some injuries and whatnot. I have Kerry and Johnson twenty six in my rankings, UM, and I think, okay, so we're we're right along. Um, we're right along the same line. So so carry on Johnson. He's twenty six, and I just hope it doesn't turn into another mirror duel situation where he has a really good preseason game, we all jump on him as his RB two that we're gonn believe in or RB two issue that we're
gonna believe in, and then he comes up small. You look at the Garrett Blunt, who I believe is the goal line back, look at THEO Ritic who I believes the third down back, and then you have carry On Johnson, Aramir and Amir of Doulas. Still there a lot of names in one backfield and that's what scares me ultimately that carry On Yeah, I think that is baked into his price somewhat though, right because you're getting him in the sixth round. He might rise a little bit up
into the fifth round. But you know, if those guys weren't there, if they didn't sign the Garrett Blunt, we'd probably be drafting carry On Johnson in the same range as like a Royce Freeman. I think he would be going in that fourth round range now, So that's baked into his price a little bit. I just don't really trust la Garrett Blunt. I know Matt Patricia, the head coach of the Lions now, brought in the Garrett Blunt and they have that familiarity together. They've worked together before,
so they bring him in. But I just I don't trust like Garrett Blunt. What is he at this point his career. He's just a goal line guy. He's thirty one years old. I think if carry On Johnson takes off, they're not going to let let le Garrett Blunt be in the way of him. And I wouldn't be surprised if know, if they run a mirror dula out a little bit more throughout this preseason game so they could shop him, potentially trade him to a team that needs
of running back Washington. I think that makes a lot of sense to well the person that I had um carry on John's next two in my rankings with Jamal Williams, I wanted to bring up certainly today given the ankle injury suffered last night. He was the clear cut starter ahead of Time Montgomery last night. Obviously Aaron Jones still a bit banged up, but Jamal Williams carry On Johnson, uh, two guys next to each other in my rankings. It sounds like a low ankle sprain. I doubt he plays
the third preseason game. I think it'll be fine by the time the season rolls around. We've spoken a lot about mark ingram over the past couple of days, and Jamal Williams as the CBS guys pointing out like he is the perfect guy. If judging my preseason is any indication, I really really like Jamal Williams. I really really like this price. Yeah. I think this is a good range where ideally you don't want one of these guys as your RB two, but if you end up with a
carry On Johnson or Jamal Williams or Day. Well, really, you know, just outside the top twenty four, you end up with one of those guys as your flex or. Is your r be three. I think this is a great range to kind of jump in on that. And Jamal Williams, we're still getting him in that sixth round range. Look, at some point this year it could be a frustrating situation with Aaron Jones. But the way everything that they've said about this team right now is that Dema Williams
is the starter on his team. Aaron Jones seems to be the backup and time on Gary is going to have third down duties. Jamal Williams the best, the best at past protection on this team. That means a whole lot when you have a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers. He can catch the ball out of the backfield. Had that receiving touchdown in the first week of the preseason. He had a few receiving touchdowns last year as well. Remember
everyone talks about the yards per carry. He didn't get the chance to play with Aaron Rodds, right, So I look, I don't think he's ever gonna be great in terms of is he gonna have a lot of breakout runs. Is he gonna average five yards per carrying? Probably not. He'll probably be in that low four maybe high three range. Um, But just playing with Aaron Rodgers, we saw a guy like Eddie Lacey who he didn't have the best yards per carry either. Just playing with Aaron Rodgers, you're gonna
have an opportunity to score a ton of touchdowns. I that range that he's going in sixth round. I have him right now as RB twenty nine, but I have to edit this a little bit because of the Birkhead injury now as well. Yeah, I have him twenty nine. I have Isaiah Kwell one spot ahead of him, so I have listen, these guys are in the same range for me. Also, um, I have Jamal Williams carry On
Johnson backs back. I think probably. I don't know does they take Williams first, just because I don't know that's whether back to back, very very close to Yeah, yeahs ahead, but yeah, I would undoubtedly take him a kind of Jamal Williams and I did in the flex draft last weekend, and Florio texted me afterwards he said, there was one one running back you took carry on over that I was very surprised, and I said, oh, Jamal Williams. He's like, yeah,
that's exactly it. So you know, some people like Jamal Williams a little bit very close. It is close, but you know, both guys have their flaws. They have other guys around. You can definitely say that the Packard's offense is better than the Lions. I just think that there's a chance. I think carry On has more upside that if he becomes like the workhorse here, I think his
upside is higher than I can get it. But I also think it's more limited, dude, because I think he's never going to be the PPR back in this offense. It's never gonna happen. Yeah, And I don't think he's gonna be the goal line back. That's literally why they signed like Garrett Blunt. I think that if Karen Johnson just takes off early on in the season, that those guys are not going to get in the way of If they want to give him like touches a game, I don't think those guys are gonna get in the
way of it. If he is performing, which I think he is going to. Two more names that are in this mix that you have mentioned Rex Burkhead and Isaiah Crowell. Now, I was the high guy in Isaiah Crowell a couple of weeks ago, and then he didn't start that first preseason game. It was Blot Howell that started. Then he got concussed, and that's where we are now with crow Rex Burkhead, he's gotta quote small tear in his knee. Of Patriots believe it's minor and that he can play
through it. It all sounds terrible to me. What is this new direct Burkehead? What is his due to Isaiah Crowell? Yeah, I think you have to lower Rex Burkhead a little bit. I mean, you look at what happened last night. They used James White a ton in that game. This Patriot backfield is just an absolute mess. Tony Michelle that used the first round pick on him. We spoke about him a little bit yesterday as well. But when is he going to get an opportunity to, you know, have a
significant role with the Patriots. I think it's gonna come a couple of games into the season, maybe closer to mid season. But this is something that can linger for the entirety of the season. This knee injury with Rex Burkeheads. So really now it's crazy to say. I mean, we could be looking at Jeremy Hill on early downs and James White on passing downs to it. It's just it's a messy situation. I think Rex Burkehead should be dropped
a little bit in the rankings. Uh. Originally he was going, he was starting to go in like that fifth round range cemented ahead of these guys harry On Johnson, Jamalba Williams, Isaiah crow Well, he was going ahead of them. Now I think with this injury, uh and the way it can linger, I think you dropped him behind all those names. Greg I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the next tier with you know, Dion Lewis. For me, it's havin
call the next tier. I think I'm gonna so I have I while you were talking, literally I dropped Rex Burken into my Ronald Jones or shot Penny Tire, which is I guess right above the literally all the guys you were just talking about. I have all those guys in the same tier right now. They're like, you know, either're like round six running, you know what. I think that's my issue. I think I need to cut the
tier off earlier. I think that's where I'm going wrong, because like because I was looking and we're gonna get to Carlos Hide in the second and I was looking at Carlos Hide and I'm just like, how he belongs higher, and so does Chris Carson. But maybe it's just the fact that I need to start the next tier in
a different spot. Maybe that's where I'm wrong. Okay, My Tier five is RB twenty four mark Ingram then carry on Johnson, Isaiah Crowe, Well, Jamal Williams, Carlos Hide, Ronald Jones, shot Penny, Rex Burk Okay, so the end of the tier, and then it starts with like Dean Lewis and seven coman Okay, So for me, I'm a little bit different. Obviously it's a wrong color. I think that was terrible. You gotta see Greg's rank because he's just it's like
taste the Rainbow. It's like Marshall lint on that. Because so my Tier four um is Derrick Henry h Dream Williams, and I have that as a tear. And then the next year begins with Birkhead, Crowell, Ronald Jones, Rashad Penny and then gets into Chris Thompson, carlos Hi, Dan Lewis, Chris Carson and those guys. Um, so I we have a little bit different. He said a lot about Birkehead. What about Crowell, Yeah, I was. I was intrigued by the way that they used him in that first game.
Gonna continue to talk about that. They split him out wide as a wide receiver. He caught that ball across the middle from Teddy Bridgewater and really ran it in a violent touchdown there at the goal line. A big collision he is can cost. But look, this team has showed time and time again that they really don't trust ball Powell. While he has started the first two games of the preseason for the Jets, they haven't really trusted him. I think he has his role. I think he'll see
anywhere from like two ten touches per game. But I think when it's all said and done, Isaiah Crowell leads this team and carries leads his team and touches overall. And don't forget he had forty receptions a few years ago back with the Cleveland Browns. So he can catch the ball to the backfield. I have some stump can turns over the Jets offensive line. But even last year, these guys, Matt forte, Um, even Elijah McGuire, they were fantasy relevant, and I think that's gonna be the case
again this year. I think Crow l leads a team in in Harry's touches. Overall, I just don't think that that the respect the ball Powell that much. I don't think agree to use him more than they have in years. I agree, as long as I can see that Isaiah Crowe is healthy, I'm very excited to go and get a share of him. I think we talked about carry On Johnson and he's playing time issues and all the
other guys there. I look at Green Bay and I don't see I'm sorry, I look at the Jets and I don't see that green You can see where I'm with there, um bla, how I don't think they like and Bowls has been there long enough time to nobody has a blof how Elijah McGuire is hurt. That's it is, Latmos. Crow is healthy, He's going to get every opportunity. An opportunity doesn't always create production, but I think in this
case it will. When it comes to Carol in the Jets, Yeah, especially where you're getting him to that six seventh round race to Elijah McGuire will be back. That was the guy they were talking up. I think if he broke his leg, they might have even cut balal pal That's something that they were totally so, you know, you don't talk about cutting a player that you're enamored with or that is gonna end up being the starter. Yes, he
started the preseason games. I think that's more so he's a veteran, he's been with the team a couple of years. But you know, once McGuire's back, you'll get a few touches. I think, well, we'll probably be somewhere in that like fourteen to sixteen touch range per game. Maybe a little bit inconsistent, but I think that's fair for where you're drafting. When when we come back, we're gonna take your calls eight four four eight four three seven nine. And what I want to do next, Frankie is is kind of
go over the best of the rest. We're gonna do the handcuffs to end the show, to end the week, as we wanted to talk about that, but I want to do the best of the rest because there's only a couple more guys here that I'm actively looking for, right, Like, I really like Carlos Hide. You know that we're gonna get into him next. We want to talk about Chris Carson will get into him next. And all of these
other guys. There's no one really that stands out to me, and I was like, Oh, I really want that guy. Maybe there are for you. But as I look at the last thirty or so running backs, there's not that many that I'm circling with the red bar, with the red markers. We'll take your calls at eat four or four eight, four, three, seven nine, and we will do the best of the rest running Back Edition Fantasy Best Friends Forever, stick around, so much more come right after
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st seven nine. We said we'd lead it off, and let's do it. Gentlemen. Let's bring in Randy from Brooklyn. What's going on, Randy? Do we have Randy? No? R Ko? All right, Let's go to Drew in Indiana. What's up, Drew? It seems like, Hey, Drew, what's up? Dude? Hey? Uh? So I had a running back question in a tight end question. Shoot, all right, So my running backs, I've got Freeman, Gordon, and Ingram. I did trade Ronald Jones
to acquired Coleman. I did like the upside of Jones, but I figured out I need that handcuff for Freeman. And then I picked up Correl yesterday. Uh, I've got Freeman and Gordon on a bye week, both at the same time Week eight, and Coroll is playing in Chicago. Should I take Pal or Coel for a week to match up against Chicago. I know it's like a question question. I know, I know it sounds crazy, but my thought is Donald with Pou, I feel like kind of a
Cohen with Robisky. Look, you know, maybe he's gonna get more touches. Questions. Have Devontae Freeman, You got Tevin Coleman, so you have the handcuff there, you have Melvin Gordon. By that time week tend, you have mark ingram As well. I think you hold Isaiah for Well more so than a ball all Powell. Anything can happen by weeks end. I mean, isaih Well could be heart vice versa for
ballal Pal. So I think you just hold the running backs you have right now, and you know the season will play itself out by the time we get to weeks ending. Well, we'll be taking your calls then as eight four four, eight, four, three, six, eight, seven nine, it's gotta don in Wisconsin's I've done? Hey, how are you doing? Guys doing great, man, what's up? Okay? I'm on the two separate ten team half point PPR leagues.
Each of them have three flex spots available. One of the flex spots can be a quarterback, tight end, wide receiver, running back. So my question to you, I normally carry two QB's, Should I carry three? Or should I just stick with a quarterback or excuse me, running back, wide receiver, tight end. So I think it's a great question because you are in a super flex league. Now, one of the flexes are available for a quarterback. You know normally
carry two. Now to it's not normally it has to be you have to have with quarterbacks on your team, can you have three? Yes? I absolutely, Um do you need to have three? I don't think you need to have three, But as you're going down your draft board, if you believe the quarterbacks, the best player on the board a little bit later on is your third quarterback.
I'm cool with taking a third. You don't like Greig said you don't need to have three, but I agree that you know, with the super flex I would have a third quarterback. We did the Scott Fishball draft a couple of months ago. That's deeper. It's like, you know, over twenty rounds, I think I ended up with like four quarterbacks. And that is a super flex format as well. So especially in the ten team, where you know, hypothetic
theoretically speaking, there should be thirty quarterbacks drafted. I think that makes sense. Everyone should have that third kind of starter as a bye week super flex replacement. Alright, So there you go at eight four four, eight four, three, six eight seven nine. Um let me let me get to Carlos side, Frank, let me get to Carlos side. So uh, when it comes to Carlos side, that was my guy last year, right, Like, I love that dude.
And they went over Cleveland. He gets his big money contract and everyone loves Carlos hide until they extend Duke Johnson. You're like, what it doesn't make sense. And then you go, okay, fine, alright, all good, and then they go and draft Nick Chubb and he's like what the hell. So we had people on here experts saying we love Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb's the long term play. Make sure you go get Nick Chubb. And then we watched the preseason and the only person
get the first team reps is Carlos Hide. Carlos Hide has cost and nothing right now are you buy him back in I think especially where he's going to I like that. You know he's going even later than carry On Johnson, Isaiah Carol. You're getting Carlos Hide in the eighth round. And that's because everybody was unsure of what the Brown situation was going to be. And I think you just look at the first preseason game usage and you see how he was used. He played the first
three snatch of the game. It didn't play the rest of the game. That tells me that Carlos Hyde is the starting running back on this team. Um due to financials after the season, they can cut him and they won't. You know, they can get rid of his money, his dead money. So I think it makes sense to just use Carlos Hide this year, maybe more so in the second half of the year. We see Nick Chubb start to emerge a little bit, but especially that first half, I think this is Carlos Hides job. I think he's
the starting running back on this team. The Brown struggled mightily in the red zone last year when it came to their running backs. They had just five red zone touchdowns. Carlos Hide had eight by himself with the San Francisco forty niners, so he's a little bit better in that part of the field. I just think Nick Chubb he still has a lot to learn. Um. He has to learn about the past protection as well. So maybe later on in the year he starts to get a little
bit more work. But I think Carlos Hide is the best of both worlds here. He can run the ball. We saw he could catch the ball. Yeah, last season, fifty nine receptions. I like Carlos Hide where he's going, especially in the first half of the season, and then if you want to so you can hear him with Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb is more of a stash candidate. But if anything were to happen to Carlos Hide, or if they start to face him out, then it would be Chubb. I like Carl's Hide, especially early on in
the season. Great, Okay, so there you go. You're with me? Is he is he someone good to pair more Ingram? Yeah? I think that makes sense to a lot of these guys that we're talking about. You need to find who is going to help you out early on in the season, wal mark Ingram's out those first four games. I think Carlos Hide fits that description purposely for for all the reasons I just mentioned. Okay, so there we go. Um, what about his teammate Duke Johnson, who I haven't heard
anybody talk about this offseason. And I look at Duke Johnson, I look at my rankings, and I have Duke Johnson thirty four right now. I don't know, like when I would take to Johnson. I don't like know what I think of Duke Johnson I have. I have no idea What's what's Duke Johnson's deal. Duke Johnson is going as RB forty off the board right now according to Fantasy Frozen half point PPR drafts, and I have him, I
think in a similar range. I have him RB four be three, so a little bit further down behind you. But I think that next year that we were talking about Dion Lewis, Tevin Coleman, Chris Thompson, they're all running backs that have a role with their team, and they might also be better as PPR specialists. So there's this whole tier. It's like Chris Carson gonna have a role
with the team, especially early on. Jordan Wilkins now Rob Kelly, I think Duke Johnson just kind of fits into that tier as a guy who has a role one on the team. He's not necessarily the starter. Well we know he isn't the starter, but he might also be better in the full point PPR format. I don't think he has great upside overall. I think last year was a little bit flukey. But as a bye week replacement and half point pprs your RB four, I think that's I
think that's fine. That's a guy just on your bench. He doesn't have a mental upside, though, would you rather draft one of these rookie looking like that that does have more ups And that's that's exactly how I have it ranked to like, I have Chris Carson ahead of him, I'd rather take that shot. Jordan Wilkins, a guy that I know that you're in on as well, I'll take I'll take a shot on him even in Aaron Jones like, I'll take a shot there in case he becomes as
well in that offense with the Green Bay Packers. So I moved Duke Johnson down a little bit. To me, he's not much more than like a Byby replacement. He might also be better in best ball because he could have some big weeks. You don't really know when those are gonna come. Because I think his usage could be a little bit inconsistent. I would much rather have deal. I think they signed Dean Lewis for a reason, the
reason why you like Jack McKinnon. I think it comes down to money here with Dean Lewis, and they gave him that solid contract. I think he's a perfect compliment to Derrick Henry. Is gonna catch the ball out of the backfield. I kind of mapped it out yesterday, how I think the projections canna work here. Derrick Henry maybe in that two D and thirty two hundred and forty Carrie range. I think that Dean Lewis, if healthy D hundred and fifty, carries himself with maybe you know, three
or four receptions a game. I think he's right in that for Thompson range maybe a little bit higher. I think he has a pretty legitimate role with the Titans this season, all right, So maybe yeah, so doing Dean Lewis right now, I was my thirty third, thirty third ranked running having thirty second behind Burke. It he starts that next year, so I still have burked re significantly higher, like maybe I'll drop it. The more injury news that comes out, Um, that's not so often. I guess that's
where he goes. Would you take him ahead of Chris Thompson because I know you're a Thompson guy. I have Chris Thompson three spots ahead, Okay, I have what do they I have him two spots behind Dean Lewis. Okay, I just I worry about you know, him saying he might not be mentally there until November. We've talked about this aton, but I just they're never gonna give him more of a workload just based on the injury that happened to guys. He has his role definitely, and I
think Dean Lewis can have a similar role. I think the offense a little bit better with the Tennessee Titans. I like the offensive line as well. Um, they're both very explosive running backs. I think in very similar situations. I just trust Dion Lewis a little bit more based on what they paid him. I think his role is a little bit more cemento with yeah, maybe not a
little bit, A little bit more cemented. Like Chris Thompson has a role, and I think people look at Alex Smith and I'm like, oh my god, that's perfect, perfect dude to vote with Chris Thompson, and I think it is. And about all the injuries. So that's that's exactly what I'm about to say, because that's all fair. Like we Jay Gruden knows, Chris Thompson knows, and the Redskins organization knows that Chris Thompson can't play aldred snaps a game,
Like that's not realistic, that's not realist for anybody. But like he can't play fifty snaps a game, the snaps per game. Really he's gonna see about he's never going to touch the ball or really shouldn't more than twelve times a game. I believe that. Speaking about Washington. By the way, Sanja Pierre and turned his ankle last night. He had a really good run and we're watching this during the Jet game and he's a really good run down the right sideline and he's living off and then
he actually what was limping off? That's right. I moved Rob Kelly all the way up to RB thirty nine and you're never gonna feel good about it. But he looks like the starter right now, like he started the game again yesterday. He started the game last week even before Darius Guys got hurt. For whatever reason, Jay Gruden and the Washington football team they like Rob Kelly. Uh. To be fair, he looked a little bit more spry
last night, looked slim down. H He had a few receptions out of the backfield, to which I found interesting. Again the reason you like Chris Thompson Alex Smith. If he doesn't see a guy clearly opened down the film, Tom just going to dump the ball off. And if Rob Kelly is in the game, he is going to be the recipient of those receptions. Just because he didn't have receptions in the past, didn't really catch the ball, that doesn't mean he can't do it in the future.
Based on the personnel he's playing with now, and I think that's Alex Smith. So I moved him all the way up to RB thirty nine. Now, if they were to make a trade or signed someone, that obviously changes, but I think as of right now, Rob Kelly cemented as this team starting running back. All right, So there you go, that Rob, not skinny Rob, skinny eer Rob Rob, what do you have? You moved them up I haven't moved them up yet. You don't know where to put him, right,
I don't know. You don't want to do it. I think I have. I haven't at fifty four right now because I mean I have to move him up obviously. Um, that's kind of where he is, although just behind Chris Carson and Jordan Wilkins. I have those two guys, those are right ahead of Robert Kelly. All right, So right, so I should move him right behind Chris Carson and Jordan Wilkins. You can do whatever you want, Graham, just
telling you what I did, all right. We just moved up fat Rob, Fat Rob, just like that in my rankings, Rob, Fat Rob is number thirty eight in the rankings. How's that? Are you copying me? We're in the same range? There is that? I just talked to you? Up so much on Rob Kelly. You moved in my head of where I have Rob Kelly in the ranking. Chris Carson, by the way, he's higher for me. He's ever thirty two
for me. Why is that? Well, I mean, Penny is injured and everything you read about Chris Carson's he's about cow like everything you read. According to Ian Rappaport. Yeah, that's everything I read. Seahawks are an absolute mess. We went over this as well yesterday. But I still believe that they drafted Rashott Penny for a reason in the first round. I think when he is healthy, whether that's you know, the second, third week, whatever it might be,
he's going to eat into that. And I wouldn't be surprised if you know, a month of the season, he is the starting running back for this team. So I'm not buying all the way. You know, Chris Carson, I think you have to move them up based on the circumstances that have taken place. But I still don't really love him. I don't think he's all that great. I think last year when he scored one touchdown in five games and everyone was freaking out, that's just because all
the other Seahawks running backs were absolutely abysmal. I don't want to overhype Chris Carson. I think he's fine where he is in that you know, mid thirties running back range. Alright, other names here that are in interest to me before we move on back to your telephone calls and we get to the handcuffs. The Colts guys, I have Jordan Wilkins and he minds Marlon Mack all back to back to back. I don't know which one to take first. I don't have There's no rhyme or reason to it
to me. Frankie, Yeah, I think more and Mack, even with the injury, is still going to be the first one off the board, probably in like that eighth round range. But if you ask me, I'll wait around or two and take Jordan Wilkins or Niheim HEINZ one I would take. Well, it's it's format dependent, so I think standard even half point PPR, I'll take Wilkins because I think he can end up being the starter, the early down guy, maybe the guy that used in the red zone as well.
In full point PPR, I wouldn't mind taking Niheim Heins, former wide receiver in college. People have talked him up as this year's Alvin Kamara. I think that's a little bit ridiculous. Um, but he is going to be the past catching running back on this team. I could see, you know, I could see a scenario where Niheim Heins catches fifty balls this year, um, where and Jordan Wilkins is the early down guy, the guy that used in the red zone. Remember the coaching staff that was brought
in now, they don't owe anything tomorrolwon Mack. He was drafted by the previous regime. They went out, they drafted Niheim Heinz and Jordan Wilkins for a reason. I think those guys before long end up being the tandem here um really when they take on that committee approach. Early downs for Wilkins pass catching, running back now probably so as you were talking, looking at me like what the
hell is he doing? And was I was moving guys around in my rankings because there was one more guy that kind of fits the mold that we're talking about that we've never mentioned. We talked about rookie running Max right ra Sean Penny, we talked about carry On Johnson, and we mentioned Nick Chubb and your boy Ronald Jones. Ronald Jones really struggled that first time out and because of that, Peyton Barber were like, wait, that guy's the starter.
I know nobody wants Peyton Barber because everybody wants to love Ronald Jones, but from my understanding, Barber is the starter. As of now, where do you have Peyton Barber ranks? What do you think about him. So I have Peyton Barber ranks as running back forty four. Ultimately, I just don't really trust him being the starter for all that long. Um Ronald Jones, I still have him RB twenty nine,
so I have him much higher. And if something that if you wanted to do with Ronald Jones falling down the board, you take Ronald Jones in the sixth round. You wait a couple of rounds, maybe round eight, round nine, you come back and you take a Peyton Barber. You just kind of lock up the Tampa Bay Bucks backfield. I think maybe the first couple of weeks Peyton Barber out touches Ronald Jones. But I think Ronald Jones is
very talented. He has to work on the past protection, for sure, But this is a team, the Tampa Bay Bucks, that have struggled to find a running back who has electric speed, who can make these breakaway runs. And that's exactly what Ronald Jones did in college, and I think that's what he will accept excel at whenever he gets the opportunity at the NFL level. So I still am buying in on Ronald Jones. I think Peyton Barber is
a little bit higher than some of these handcuff guys. Um, but he's a little bit lower than like Chris Carson Jordan Wilkins, who I trust, um maybe have a little bit more upside. I just really don't think Peyton Barber is the starter for all that long, even if it is the first week or and I understand that he's number forty three for me once by ahead of Frank Gore. I may want to reverse that. Um, and she's about's head of Legarrett Blunt. One name here that comes to
mind at Freeman. What about Tevin Coleman. Yeah, so Tevin Coleman is a guy who has standalone value even if DeVonta Freeman is on the field, we know that he has a role. Again, he's very similar in that range of Dion Louis, Chris Thompson. He's gonna tell you haven't there. Yeah, he's gonna because he's gonna touch the ball at least ten to twelve times per game. And then if something were to happen to Freeman, he legitimately has like top
fifteen running back upside. So I think he has standalone value. He's more of like he's a handcuff as well. But me he goes a little bit too early if he goes in like that sixth round range. If I get him in the seventh, especially a pair with DeVonta Freeman, I think that makes a lot more sense. Do you want to remind you he only caught twenty seven basses all of last year because Steve Sarkasan didn't throw the ball to any running backs more and Tevin Coleman, your
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sports radio network. You're free, fancy source twenty four hours a day. All hasn't been done before. Glex saucemen, Frank Stanfel here with you hanging out the BFS. Before we get the calls, I want to finish the Tevin Coleman conversation. Who is the handcuff? We're gonna end the end the week with the handcuffs. Um, Coleman last year is really interesting, Like from weeks one for the middle to end of the season like that. That basically November he scored a touchdown, one, two, three,
four street games. One game he had two touchdowns. I guess that's probably when Devonte Freeman missed time. Right, that's when Freeman was out with the concussion. I assume, all right, I could pull it up for you. I think was ultimately played four games, so he only was two, Okay, So basically the month of November was a month of Tevin Coleman. Like he was dominant in that month. He had twenty He had nineteen or twenty carries for three
straight games. That's why I was assuming Devonte Freeman was out of those games. Um, it was awesome. He's like the is he the top handcuffed own Week eleven and Week twelve, which was November November twenty six. DeVonta Freeman missed those games and he only had two carries in on the twelve, So November Devanta Freeman was not really part of the team. Okay, is that when you were
talking about I'm talking, I'm talking. No, he's November basically remember twelve, that's exactly, ex exactly his three best games all year. He's haf has to be he is, but you have to invest a lot. So do you want to lock up the Falcons backfield, it might take a second in a sixth round pick. That's where he's going. Sixth round man pull up Fantasy Pross. I've seen him go that high before. Maybe he's more like a seventh rounder, but I'm telling the eighth rounder Kevin Coleman sixty, which
puts him in the sixth round RB twenty nine. According to Fantasy pros Greg, you have to invest a second and a six to lock up the Falcons backfield. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's very similar to last year the Titans. You had to invest a second and a seventh or DeMarco Murray and Harry that never even really worked out. It's a lot, I mean, it's a lot to ask for. Coleman might be a better best ball play because you well, Freeman is healthy. I will
say he has standalone value. But you don't really ever know when Tevin Coleman is going to score a touchdown because it seems like they come from outside the red zone. Those are kind of hard to predict. We know once they get inside the red zone, DeVonta Freeman really does dominate the touches. So maybe Tevin Coleman better as a
best ball play. But if you really really want to lock up the Falcons backfield, you have to invest that six or seventh round pick to Para Coleman with Devontay Freeman four three, six, seven nine George in Virginia, You're up next. But what's going on? Hey, what's going on? UM? Wanted to ask, like, since you guys are we talking about the handcuffs? Um about Oakland and Baltimore And I'm wondering, um, like you know behind um, what's his name? Marshawn Lynch?
If that she and worth like investing in like something in like the tenth or of the eleventh round, like I'm going to have a draft um later on this month that is gonna be a twelve teen PPR, So I need to maximize my value in the draft. Yeah. So for the Raiders and the Ravens, I think the way that they talked of Doug Martin, you have to
treat him as the handcuff right now. And looking at the history that John Gruden has used running backs in his past, he really has a one A and one beast, so a lot like these running backs that were talking about now, Doug Martin also has standalone value because I think he'll see anywhere from you know, seven to ten touches per game. Marshall Lynch not gonna really get twenty carries,
but he'll be in that fourteen fifteen range. If anything were to happen to Marshall Lynch, I think Doug Martin steps steps up as that next one a running back that's getting around fifteen carries for game. Personally, I don't agree with it, but the way that that coaching staff has talked up Doug Martin, I don't think you can get away from that. Uh. And with the with the Ravens, if you draft Alex Collins, I think all Allen is
more of just the PPR back. If anything works to happen to Alex Collins, I think Kennet Dixon would step in as the early downs back probably. I agree rob Ian Westchester, what's up? Rob? What's up? Guys? A couple of points. You guys actually just talked. I think the number one in comes football is UNIVERA seven Coleman, and he has running value already. He's just he just started running back in the second position for a lot of teams. Yep. And I think the second best hand coast is actually
Doug Martin with that offensive rhane in Oakland. It's sick. So I'm going for those two guys in in the later rounds and hopefully taking up the wide receivers early and all. Pretty good. There we go. Yeah, I mean, for what it's worth, he's not wrong. Last year, Tevin Coleman overall finishes RB twenty, the same exact spot as
Marshall Lynch, so he has standalone value. A lot of it came in those three games when DeVonta Freeman was out, but he really needs those games that I you know, when Davonte Freeman misses, that's when Kevin Coleman really takes off. I think we all are in agreement that he is the number one handcuff. It's just what you have to invest to get that. A six seventh round pick, that's very early. Doug Martin a little bit more interesting. You get him late in drafts, you know, double digit rounds,
ten eleventh round. Uh. If you draft Marshaw Lynch, I think that makes more sense. If you want to just lock up the Raiders backfield, use a sixth and a tenth round pick, you end up with Marshawn Lynch and Doug Martin. Let's head out to Virginia and talk to George. George. We hit George. You're ready, right, So Kevin in Chicago, Hey you guys, sums for taking my call. All right, it's okay, Um, I appreciate it. No, So I'm in
the league. Um. One of them is talk man league, And unfortunately they're trying to be a little different and cute. But that's what it is. There limiting Momana moves and her argument is that you know, it's about strategy and whatnot, So it's we're debating between dirty moves. With that being said, going to the draft, how are you are you more like to grab um higher cheering quarterback, and are you
more likely to grab a backup quarterback? The bench is deeper, by the way, I have to mention that the bench we're debating between like somewhere between eight or nine. I don't know, alright, So it's a little bit deeper bench. Frank eight or nine bench spots. He says that league might limit his transactions to thirty, which I assume is throughout the entirety of the season. So if that's the case, an eight or nine man bench, I think you absolutely
have to have a backup quarterback. And while we're on the discussion of handcuffs, um, I don't know if you use fab or if you just use like a first come, first serve um waiver process, but if you only have thirty moves, I'm probably more inclined to draft my handcuffs if I have like a workhorses running back, so I don't have to waste those, uh those transactions on the handcuff if something were to happen to my workhorse running back.
I agree with you. I was leading towards handcuffs as well with a quarterback, Like if your quarterback goes down that won't. It's one move, right, like theoretic probably happen all that often. Right, No, it doesn't. And also the good news is you could just pick up a guy that's probabefully after his by and you don't have to waste another one, like just lock that guy in. I would rather scooper as many handcuffs as possible because that's where the majority of eater moves will probably be. Yeah,
that's fair. Do you think in a format like this where you have limited moves, are you more likely to draft one of the elite quarterbacks so you just don't even have to worry? Yeah? I want to do that anyway, So elite quarterback? Yes, yes, I think one of the guys that you could trust more even going into you don't.
You don't. You don't want to have to mess around all year long about Tim And it's left in the program, Frank, we went over some of the top handcuffs, right, We went over Doug Martin, we went over Tevin Coleman, were hit in Washington. I know you've been talking up a lot Trey Aadmonds and Bow Scarborough. I've liked both Scarbrow since back in Alabama. And the reason that. I like him because I think he runs hard. He's got the Alabama pedigree, which I know isn't great for running backs
these days outside of mark Ingram. But I think he's a very, very talented back. And I think he's a big back too, So I think if Elliott went down, he would really fit right into that role. I think they'd hand that rock to him repeatedly. I don't know what he was dreat in the passing game, but I don't think it would be a situation like we had last year, or like is it Rod Smith, is it Alfred Morris? What do we know? I think the answer is Bo Scarborough and we know that and we know
what this offense is. That's why I really like Bo Scarborough. Yeah, and I think that's why they went out and drafted him. So if something were to happen to Zeke, they just know that he's the next man up. And you look at where he's being drafted, he's nothing. You get him the last pick of the draft, pick two sixty seven on Fantasy pros RB seventy three off the board. I
think when you are ranking handcuffs specifically, you look at situation. Right, if something were to happen to this running back, Um, does he step into a situation right away where he's the starter, good offensive line, a potent offense. I think all those things work for the Cowboys. Maybe not the most potent offense, but they have a great offensive line. So if something were to happen to zeke Bo Scarborough. You mentioned Chase Edmonds, who has flashed a little bit
here in the preseason. I got that. You know, Emery Hunt has been all over dating back to his days at college. He's right behind both Scarboro RB seventy four. And they've already said if something were to happen to David Johnson, Chase Edmonds will step in as the team starter. I think he can run the ball and catch the ball out of the backfield. And while we're on it, you just got to talk about you know who would who would uh take over for the Steelers if something
would have happened to Levion Bell. I think that is James Conner. You saw him last night. Um looked very spry. He had like a thirty yard touchdown run RB sixty five off the board. That's another situation where anytime anything has happened to Levion Bell, regardless of who the backup is they feed that guy. We saw it a couple of years ago with Th'angela Williams. He had like twenty five plus touches in whatever games Levian Bell missed. So James Conner I think is also a name in that category.
And Connors a dude that's lost a lot of weight to like he does not look spry. Last night he looked very good. He doesn't literally the massive dude that I think we saw last year. There's a little plotting for us. Um, he looked good last night. Yeah, in that category as well. Going a little bit higher, we spoke about Latavius Murray, who I think has standalone value as well. He should be see anywhere from you know, six to ten touches per game with the Vikings if
anything were to happen in Dalvin Cook. We saw last year what let's Avias Murray can do. Um, he scores such downs. He does his work in the in the red zone as well. You know a guy who I think has valued by himself right now, Greg not even a handcuff. Who's no one's talking about Austin Ekeler with the Chargers. They're talking him up right now. That he's going to have the Danny Woodhead role in this offense. That worries me a little bit about Melvin Gordon's receptions.
Maybe they take a step back, maybe he's more so in that forty to fifty range. But Austin Ekeler a guy who flashed a little bit last year. They seem to like him an awful lot. Maybe he doesn't see the same workload that a Danny Woodhead does. But especially in PPR, I think there's a chance that Austin Ekeler himself and catch forty to fifty passes, maybe even exceed fifty receptions this year. Greg, Yeah, you know, I thinks
a fine handcuffed. He came out of nowhere last year is a really really nice story, and then he proved was fine. He was passing down back like nothing really to worry about. And I think he's a handcuff. I'm not worried about him replacing Melvin Gordon or taking over a lot of those receptions. Um. I think he's a fine handcuff and that's about it. I think he's gonna have a little bit more value than that, like as
a bye week replacement in the PPR League. I think he's a guy that can maybe catch or to five passes per week. They've just been talking up a lot, and I think, um, that's I think that's for FA. I think they like him a lot there too, And we do have to mention. I mean, who is the backup to Todd Gurley if something were to happen. They went and they drafted John Kelly, who a lot of people were raving about throughout the draft. It's crazy. I saw somebody on Twitter. I forget who was. I hate
that I gave him credit. Um maybe it was Might Claim maybe with somebody else, but they were raving as his deep sleever John Kelly that if anything happens, liked him a lot. I remember listening to me he was claimed cast throughout the draft process. This was a guy who really he hit in the metric department, so you know, using a lot of advanced metrics he was. They would looked at that throughout his college career, and the Rams
went out and drafted him. So I think he is the guy to own if anything were to happen to Tid Gurley. So if you draft Gurley, maybe in the best ball format or in your deeper twelve team, leagues. If you're looking for that next man up, I think it is John Kelly for the Rams. Yeah, I think so too, And I think it's really smart that you bring up, um, some of these big time guys, right, like first pick Todd Gurley, Right, who's the handcuff? It's
you're literally your first overall pick. You want to make sure you get that handcuff? John Kelly got it? Uh? The Zeq Elliott we talked about Bot Scarborough, right, Cool? David Johnson, Jas Edmonds. You you mentioned that great awesome lady on Belle James Conner. Cool. Alvin Camara's interesting situation obviously with Mark Ingram there until Ingram gets back, it might be Jonathan Williams russurrected and dead was the answer
to this one. I just hope that he doesn't get hurt the first four weeks and then you get the sake Kwon Barkley. Is there a Giants running back that is worth drafting as a handcuff? Is Wayne Gallman worth drafting? Is Jonathan Stewart worth drafting? I've drafted Wayne Gallman in one league where it has sae Kwon Barkley. It was a very deeply I think it was four rounds, so that deep I took a shot. But I think if anything were to happen to Sa Kwon Barkley, given the
state of this offensive line, I still don't think they're great. Yes, they made some improvements, but it's pretty terrible. Yeah, they're gonna be bad. So I think if something were to happen to say Kwon Barkley, you wouldn't have much value out of either one. Wayne Gollman Jonan Stewart. Honestly, they probably just take away from each other if something were to happen. Yeah, okay, fair enough. I don't think I really want anymore. Wayne Golman got some first team action
this week without say Kwon Barkley practicing. I watch to night and see what happened exactly. I want to see the what the differentiation is between Jonathan Stewart's carries and Wayne Gollman's carries. People like playing Golman. Last year we mentioned Melvin Gordon. Then he gets a Kareem Hunt in
the first round. Who is Kareem Hunt's handcuff? I think it's Spencer ware again, and you know, similar to Austin Ekeler, there's a chance that Spencer Ware could still have a role on this team, you know, six to eight touches a game, maybe a couple of receptions. They liked him a lot before the Kareem Hunt before his injury last year. To Spencer weare so I think if anything were to happen again, it might not be Spencer where might not
just step in and be like the workhorse. But I think if something were to happen to kare Hunt, he would see the bulk of the touches. They probably just get like Damian Williams involved as well. But in the league where I drafted Kareem Hunt, the Flex League last weekend that you took part in as well, Greg, I drafted Spencer were extremely late. I think one of my either my second or third to last pick. So I
think Spencer wears the hancuff. Moving down the first round, two more spots left Jacksonville in Minnesota, and Letton Fournet has got a lot going on behind him, from Corey Grant to t J yelled into more is yelled in, stilled the backup and they want on there another another Alabama running back. I like, yeah, I think he probably is. You wouldn't see a full complement of work. If something happened to Leonard Fournett, I think it would kind of
be like a Mishmas situation. They'd use multiple guys. But t J yelled in. We saw what he can do. Uh, not really great effective running between the tackles as a pure runner, but you can catch the ball out of the backfield. So he's probably the next man up. I think Grant is probably just like that speeds their chain ange of pace. I don't think that if anything would happened, he would step in on like early downs. It's probably t J. Yelden, But I don't feel great about like
any handcuff there in Jacksonville, to be honest. And then you get to Minnesota, which we spoke about yesterday. Obviously, Uh that handcuff is Latavia's Murray. We saw it go into action last year. UM so LaTavia is very clearly the heck out of its own for Dalvin Cook. You want to get it in the second round. Um, I have to imagine Cincinnati's Gi Bonnie Bernard with Joe Mixon. He's talking about Atlanta with DeVante Freeman and Tevin Coleman and Carolina. You know c J. Anderson only played the
fourth quarters. He's still the handcuff to c Hims. Yeah. Again, he's gonna have a role himself. They'll have that Jonathan Stewart role, maybe a little bit less than what Stewart did last year because he was around two hundred carries. But if anything happened to McCaffrey, Anderson would probably see around fifteen touches per game, and then I'm sure they would find someone else to end up being like the third down back or whatever. Al Right, so those those
are your handcuffs, Frank. We have about a minute or so minute a half left in the week. Are there any other running backs that we have not talked about all week long that you're like, I gotta I want to mention him for whatever reason. Yeah. I think we've mentioned Time Montgomery a little bit while talking about the Packers running backs. But if this Jamal Williams situation is serious, uh, you know, Time Montgomery is probably the next man up. I think he, like Austin Ekeler, like some of these
past catching running backs, has standalone value as well. Uh, Corey Clement didn't talk about him all that much, but when we mentioned j j. I, we kind of talked about him in passing another guy who's going to have a role on this team. They like him for sure,
probably a better best ball running back. I don't know that you'll be able to trust Corey Clement at any certain time this year, but if something were to happen to j J I, I think Corey Clement would have a pretty legitimate role with you, more so than a um wind SMALLO. Yes, okay, I think they're done with window Smaller. I don't know, man. They talked up Corey Clement a lot, and they used him throughout the playoffs, so I think they I think that coaching staff trust
Corey Clement. Okay, So there you go. Next week on the show Monday, we will get an auction All Auction Show, Drew dick Meyer. I hope we'll join us. Have a text out him right now All Auctions Show, and then
starting Tuesday, we're gonna do our wide receiver rankings. Everything we did this week, from the first two rounds wide receivers, to your middle rounds, to your late rounds, and to your handcuffs because your hand you can a handcuff wide receiver like Franks, so you can handcuffs tight ends right with Jordan Reed and Ernie Davis. You could probably do that in Green Bay with a guy Davante Adams. With
Jona Allison and Davanta Adams. You worry a little bit concussions with Davante Adams pretty much every injury with Randall Cobb. One more name that we didn't mention. Greg Yeah's Ivory very much so. A guy that you should pay attention to lay in drafts as well. All Right, there you go. Uh, that's gonna do it for today's fantasy best friends forever it's been It's been an awesome week. Remember subscribe on iTunes
