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Fantasy Baseball 2020: Closer Rankings!

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Who will get the most saves in 2020? Which closer is going to lose his job first? Gregg Sussman and Frank Stampfl will try to answer these questions and more in their Closer Rankings!

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to us or suffer the consequences. See yeah right now. As welcome by your host fie By from Fine Did from St. Francis Prannice. Stand all, ladies and gentlemen, your p with that we won't give you Inside up Studio thirty four. This is the b f F. S is Frank Stample. I am Greg Sauceman. What's happen about? Great happy Monday to you. I hope you had a great weekend. Did we had a Tyson Fury fight? Good times? We

got some peace, Paul. It's a great weekend, Greg. Nice weather too, really nice weather this weekend and your weekend go. I just sleep, man, I slept pretty well, have very funny. I was excited to tell you about hit me very excited. Uh So on Saturday night, Frank I woke up and I found out overnight in my dreams that we uh we fired Craig Mish. Oh, I'm not laughing at you, Craig, I'm laughing with you. So we fired Craig Mish, but you still host the fs T. Do you want to

know who you hosted it with? Um? I do want to know. So I guess it was FST with Frank Staffle and my dad Rob. Susan's right, it was you and Rob hosted f S Day whenever the Fantasy League gets a fresh pair of socks, sir. So that was We worked on some wedding album stuff. Very it was fun. We were all the same side, which was nice. It's hard, man, it's really hard. Wedding album. Oh you're creating your Yeah, you gotta pick out pictures before you like, Yeah, officially done.

I'll tell you about it during the update and somebody else cares um. But we got that. We got Relief Picture rankings, our debut. With the rankings, we're going backwards. Everybody else that starts to catcher, we don't. We started the Relief Picture akings. We had some NBA to talk about as well before we do any of that. Shan Glassmachia your sports trading us up. I'm John Glossomakia with

your sports trade news update. All right. Kobe Bryant remembered right now going on at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. His widow, Vanessa Bryant calls Kobe m v P of girls Dad's and she went on to say, God knew that Gianna and Kobe couldn't be together on the start without each other. He had to bring them home. And you have them together, babe, you take care of our g end. Quote. So a lot of emotions raging right now at the Staples Center as they remember Kobe and

Gianna Bryant. Let's go over to the NHL and they trade deadline. One of the more key names on the waiver wire or the trade rumor mill was Chris Criter. He was, of of course, the New York Rangers forward. He's no longer on the trade rumor mill. He is locked up for seven years. Of twenty eight year old signed a six point five annual average value deal with the New York Rangers. He has four goals and one assists in sixty games this season. Set to break a

career high in both categories. He is now a New York ranger for the next seven years. We think he is locked up, so he is no longer on the trade rumor Mill All right, let's go over to the Rodal world and MLB hands a road lest the Angels closer. That's what Joe Madden, the manager said today. He's pretty safe bet to begin the season as the team's closer. Last year he saved twenty three games with a two point four three e R, a seventy five K, sixteen

walks in seventy two and two thirds innings. Last seasons hands a road least now the closer, according to Joe Mann and the Angels owner. So that's some BFFs news right there. And friend Mill Rays, the Cleveland Indians outfielder has dropped eighteen pounds in the off season. He hit over thirty home runs for the Padres last year or so. He isn't known to be a defensive liability. Losing eighteen pounds might help in your fantasy traps there. If you are a big Friend Mobrays fan, that is your BFF

sports grid news update for this hour. Now back to Greg and Frank take it away all right, Thanks so much, Sean. And we mentioned at the top of the show we're gonna be talking about closers and relief pitchers here in terms of fantasy baseball. But before we do all that, we did want to jump a little bit into the NBA here. Earlier today, our own Greg Sussman spoke with Daily Rhodo's Ricky Sanders about tonight's NBA DFS slate. Here's who you should be building your lineups around tonight. Let's

complete the Philly triffect to hear with you. Well embed at center, Dude Emvite Janice Dodges. How are you pulling this off? Well, we didn't mention Kendrick not a point guard who's under five k, which is just a crazy price tag for him. So again, if you're playing Richardson and you're playing him all of a sudden, you can pull it off with relative ease. But look, I mean Joel embiid against this Atlanta Hawks team that again allows a ton of stocks. It's just a great setup in itself.

And then you have Ben Simmons out of rotation, and without Ben Simmons, Joel embiad isp posted to like a thirty five percent usage rate, a rebound rate that's gone up. We haven't had a twenty five percent rebound rate baseline on Daily Rhodo. Obviously, Ben Simmons a good rebounder, and you know as a point guard, and you look at this matchup, I mean, it's just great. This Hawks team

has not covered center as well all year long. You know, Joel Embiid could get you those blocks, and that's beyond you know, we haven't projected with a high usage rate, high assist rate, a high rebound rates rate. In fact, with Ben Simmons out, So Joel Embiid just does everything. It's a great spot for him. It's a great matchup, and it he really doesn't matter. With Tobias Harris, I think he's gonna be the focal point of his offense. Hey, you haven't. I got an opportunity to talk to Ricky

earlier today you will be the sixers. That's where we're looking. No Ben Simmons tonight, Harris's questionable. So before you check to finalize your line ups, I don't know what to Daily Order dot Com to set them. Yeah, it's a great point. Look, whenever Ben Simmons is out, Greg you're looking to build your teams around some of those seventies sixers players, and it makes a lot of sense. You heard it from Ricky Sanders. Joel embiid usage rate up over thirty five per cent when Ben Simmons is not

on the floor. So you're looking to fill out your DFS lineups tonight trying to figure out who to build around Greg, I think Joel and beat the process makes the most sense, of course. Not trust it, man, you gott trust the process. There you go Daily Order dot Com. Make sure you check that out. But be four lineups lock tonight, righty? Should we start our relief as your rankings? Yeah? Yeah, let's do it all right? So I have I have rankings. Greg has rankings, Frank rankings. No, No, what are you

talking about? Right? What is this right here that I'm looking at? That's Fantasy Pros rankings. Rank No, those are my rankings, which go on Fantasy Pross whatever. Five most accurate rank about nine. I haven't released the yet. I believe I saw they did. Well, then I'm not on it. I did. I'm not even kidding. I did see it. Did I don't know? I did see they did? Then ruses on it. I did not rank very highly and

rhonases on it. Now you piqued my interest. All right, anyway, if you look over here on my computer, look at this color CODEDE sheet. I got my color codes ready to rock with the relief pitchers, considering this is the only show draft accuracy out yet. I saw draft projections. Then I saw raft projection injections. I saw I'm I'm not even making it up. I don't even know what that means. Then I will find it during the break for you. All right, Well, they haven't released the twenty

nineteen draft accuracy rankings from last year. We're still waiting on those. All right, I'm sure I finished, like number one, Chris MENI got something, that's how I know. And I saw this a color coded movie. You want? This is what I'm gonna do is better room may that's Venmo, Greg solid. I don't know what do you charge for that nowadays? You know cool? A couple of suckles were good, A couple of cecles. You rather have w W E

network or the Greg network. So I was was trying to make these rankings, uh previously five minutes ago, and um, I have a really hard time this year. And this is what I'm hoping to use the show for trying to figure out like where the first here ends and the next year begins, and then that's here after that.

Like I'm all about tears, you know that about me, But it's really hard for me to kind of figure out who's elite and who's not because I really think that truly, every closer on the board I think hasn't been wrong with them as like a welt, And because of that, I don't my tears are like much larger. They're literally impacts of ten. Franc I literally have two packs of ten for the first nineteen or you know,

essentially pac ten the first nineteen relief pictures off my board. Yeah, I mean, look, the closer position is always a tough one to figure out for fantasy purposes. And obviously if you play in Rhodo or head to Add Categories, saves count for a lot more. Honestly, if you play in head to Add Categories, I would probably just punt some

on bases and punt saves. But that's just me. I know that there's a lot of strategy built around, you know, getting those elite relievers in that type of format if you want to and head to head points leagues, they're

not nearly as valuable. But yeah, Greg, look, I think the position now is harder to figure out than ever before because as we go through today and try and figure out, you know, every team's closing situation, you're gonna see that there's at least five, six, seven teams that are going to have multiple closers or don't have a set closer right now. Gabe Kapler's out in San Francisco. If you watch the BFFs the past couple of years, you know, I hate Gabe Kapitler because he can never

figure out who his closure is gonna be. You know, he changes it up every single day based on match. So it was based on this, based on that, you know, analytics for his closers. Uh, And now, well, I guess he's got a fun job to figure out who's gonna use out there in San Francisco because A they're not gonna win a lot of games, Greg, and B I don't think they really have that many great relievers in general.

So like most years, I would say this year is uh, it's an interesting situation trying to figure out all these closing situations. There's a lot of question marks. This year, We're gonna break down, starting at the top. When we come back the BFS roll on here on Monday. After this, I want to be the next Daily Fantasy Millionaire. Dunk on your NBA DFS competition with Daily Rodal dot Com

and dominate on fandel and DraftKings this season. Compete with the pros with Daily Rodal dot Com optimizer and the most accurate projections in NBA DFS, plus line up alerts, breaking news, lake swap support, and much more. Save ten on winning NBADFS advice with promo code Dunk. Visit daily dot Com backslash to learn more. Alright, back here, BFFs, it's our closer Rankings programmed. Where do you rankings? All all week long? Oh? Next week, we're that's that time

of year. We're getting the mark. Next week's March. We basically have to do two weeks worth of ranking shows. Grego's next. We're gonna have to spend like two days on out fielders, two days I'm starting pitchers. That's the next two weeks, right, and then next week what's up the draft? Next week? No, right, it's not what draft auction? Draft? No, no, no, the auction is after it's like Thursday. I got on my calendar here March March twelfth. Next week's the fifth

ready that I wasn't so crazy to ask. You're not far off. You didn't realize that was close? Yeah, you're You're not wrong. There's two weeks from this. Thursday is our first draft of the year. I mean, good times. I'm already nervous. Why we're gonna crush you? We already? You already have a list? Do I do the list? Hashtag list um. Who was listening to the show Dane Dane Martears listen to the show last week and he heard of our strategy a little bit about how I

want to piss everybody off. He enjoyed the show, he says me. He says, let's succeed every year. He's not wrong. All I do is have fun. Let's go greatly jumping right. Let's jump right in here today and let's get into the closers. As I mentioned my top tier and asked Frank right before the show starting, where is the top tier end? And he's like, there's four guys and then there's everybody else. But I was looking at the four guys and I'm like, I think there's issues. So for me,

I got like nine guys. I feel very comfortable draking any of these guys. I don't want to spend on any of the top four because I like the other six more just as much. And to be fair, I've done two drafts already, Greg, and I have not wound up with either of the top four closures that I have in that top tier um anyway, So I mean that's not how That's usually what I do when it comes to relief pictures in rhoto leagues and head to

end categories leagues. I am going to more often than not to wait for those top five or six to go. I'll wind up with one of my top ten closers Greg, then I'll probably jump in the eleven to fifteen range, and then maybe just add a few more speculative guys swords the back end of the draft. But more often than not, I don't wind up with one of the top five closures, Greg, because the value is just too high.

So here's the thing. I got nineteen guys. As I mentioned that I like nineteen of them, I want two of the nineteen. That's fair. I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, And I'm not gonna spend up for the number one closer, who is Josh Hayter this year coming off the board. And I'm not gonna spend up for Curbs, who's traditionally number two, And there might number one and two also, I just don't see myself spending up. I'm gonna wait and wait and wait and take two of my top nine team. So let's go

through some of the top guys. I want to tell you why I'm like pausing rather than drafting these players, because like I think they have welts and number one, we have Josh Hayden, number two, Curvy eighth, number three or all this, Chapman, number four, Roberto oh soona and that's like the consensus top four, right, That's what you told me, that top serious, correct, That's what it is

for me. Okay, So those are the top four. Now the reason I don't want to spend up for them, I will go with the ones that are clearer to me. Rollis Chapman a lot of miles on that arm. We've seen him be pulled in the closer roll before, we've seen him go on the I l a couple of times elbow injuries, shoulder injuries. You wonder if all of these pitches, all of these years, and that knee issue that always recurs, you wonder if it catches up to him at some point. Again, not I I don't like.

Are all the Chapman's right. Number three closer issues are about Herby Yates led the MLB and saves last year with forty one saves. We were just talking about it during the break, Frank forty one saves he had. But I believe it's a free agent to be or is this just the year left? The Padres thought about trading him last year at the deadline. They didn't this year. If they fall out of it, they're going to just like they did Brad Hand before him. And if Kurby

Yates goes, somebody else will stop up. Amilio Pagan. I just traded for very good, very good reliever, Herby Yates, the number two. Costing what he costs, it doesn't seem worth it to me. And then you have Josh Hayder, who is amazing the best reliever in baseball. Oh right, he has all these multi inning appearances. They deploy him whenever they want to. This is the issue we said with him coming in the last season, and they had a bunch of relievers in Milwaukee that could wind up

getting this job at some point or stealing saves. Hayter's the guy, He's the number one guy. He's the best out of these players. What if you're just specifically looking for saves at you have questions when it comes to Josh had Finally, Ronny at the top four is a Rhodo, So he's a cheater. Well they got that's all you got. Well, it's worth mentioning that our own Craig miss who was still on Fantasy Sports today by the way, him Greg's dad did not replace Craig Mish spoke with Alex Bregman

over the weekend. We're at I don't know where, somewhere at spring training wherever they are, somewhere in Florida, and uh, he said that Roberto Soona is going to lead all of baseball and saves and subcaraus I can see that. Like to me, it's not crazy, you know, cost the least,

it may lead them and saves like the most. He's probably the one that I'm most likely to draft, just based on So you look at the adp over at the Fantasy pros right now, we're gonna put him in white on the on the rankings, and Josh Hayder is going off the board at fifty seven overall. So I mean, look, that's a steep price that you're talking about. In a twelve team league, you have to use a fifth round pick on a closer. Mind you, you're gonna get the

best closer in the game. You're gonna get a ton of strikeouts, great ratios from Josh Hayter as well, But that is a big price tag to pay up. You're passing up on, you know, legit top twenty starting pitchers, you're passing up on stolen bases, which are scarce category as well. Curby Yates, I'm with you, Greg, I think he's awesome. The sub too e er. Last year he's ridiculous and we were all over him. I actually wound up with a few shares of Curby rates last season. Uh.

Phenomenal splitter, no doubt about it. We think you raise a great point that they already have traded away Brad Hand in the past, they were thinking about trading away Kirby Yates. Last year they just traded four and they gave up some assets together anymore. Amilio Pagan who is a phenomenal look in his own right, and they also have another name in Andres Munios who came up last year. It was like a hundred five miles per hour. They actually are projected to have one of, if not the

best bullpens in the Nationals. There's well, it's on one and two for you continue and I'm with you on Osuda. I'm most likely to drop chairman oh on a roller. Chapman look, he has missed time and the strikeouts were down last year, the swinging strike rate was down, the velocity was pretty much on par. I mean, doesn't throw as hard as he used to, but but you still have to worry about the knees in the back of

your mind a little bit. He has thrown a lot, uh look playing for one of the best teams in baseball and the Yankees, they have the highest projected over under for any team in baseball this upcoming season. They're going to win a lot of games, and you know, he easily could save forty plus games this upcoming season.

But I'm with you, Greg, I think based on the price tag you have to pay for all this, Chapman he's I think like some of the names that are going behind him are really not that dissimilar, and you might be able to get them a few rounds later. So I don't really have a problem waiting on him. If you want to grab Chapman, I'm fine with it. But you still do have to pay a big price tag he's going off the board. I pick seventy one right now, Greg, So back into the sixth round in

a twelve team league. Again, that's that's a big price to pay for for your first closer. There you go. We're all we're on the same page here when it comes to Reberto. Assume you be in our favorite of this tier. Let's move on. Let's move on. You think that tears over here right like, that's where you're stopping. You're cutting it off, making a new color. Yeah. I don't have a problem with you kind of just keeping one big tier for like your top ten. That's fine

to me. I think that these four are you know, if they remain the closest for their respective teams the entirety of the season would not surprise me. If they all have sub two point five oh e r A s really good strikeout numbers, and forty plus saves. I would just put those these this group before I have less doubt about than the other group of players were about to talk about next gree al right, so let's

get let's get to those next guys. It would just keep diving in Frank, because for me, I look at these guys that are in the next crew and I'll just kind of rattle them off and you could order them how you pre For Frank, you got Liam Hendrix in here. We talked about him briefly last week. You got Kenley Jansen in here. We talked about him briefly last week in the same conversation. Guys, we think that could be this year's late China. We got Greig Kimberle.

I believe in this mix. We have Taylor Rogers. I believe in this mix. And finally, for me, where my top nine ends, I got Edwin Diaz here as well. Is there anybody I'm leaving out or anybody that wouldn't be in that top nine? So I have the top four as the first year, and then I have five through eleven for me that are kind of in this They could still be really really good, but again they have more Awartz than the than the first four that

we already spoke about. And for me, that group is Brad Hand, Taylor Rogers, Ken Giles, Edwin Diaz, Liam Hendrix, Kenley Jansen, and Craig Kimberl rounding out the top. So it basically it's Brad Hand and Ken Giles that I probably just move up to a bigger tier. But look, I mean there's concerns over both of those guys as well. Like Brad Hand was not nearly as elite last year

as he was. He can there's a chance he could be traded as well, and they have And I think with Ken Giles was he was trading the Yankees acquired him, but they look at this his medicals like, yeah, we're good. I'm not gonna take this guy. You're out on Ken Giles. If the Yankees are out, Greg's out. I hear what you're saying. But Greg, he was phenomenal last year, just into the highest strikeout rate of his career, elite numbers. It's just a matter of you know, Ken, can he

stay healthy? Can you remain healthy? And a lot of people expect the Toronto Blue Jays to be more competitive this upcoming season. Again, what he did last year a sub two e r A, a whip of one point zero zero twenty three saves, just one blown, save eighty three strikeouts in fifty three and two thirds endings pitched. Greg, I understand the injury concerns you might have over Ken Giles, but I think you could say that about a lot

of the guys that we're talking about here. Kenley Jansen has not, you know, been the model of health you worry about, you know, the heart condition that he has, plus his um his performance has you know, taken a step back. Craig Kimberly, you have some of those same concerns about Liam Hendricks you just dubbed last week as this year's blake, trying to tell me they all have war. Give me the person who has the best skills of this group, and I think Ken Giles is up there

as one of them. And I think you can argue the same thing for Edwin dis Edwin is exactly the guys I think Edwin Diaz and Ken Giles, to me, Greg, are always married together. Even a couple of years ago, there were two guys that I was completely awful because it seems like they could just implode at any time. And last year we saw that implosion from Edwin Diaz and we saw Ken Giles go the other way, actually took a huge step forward. It's just a matter now

of him staying healthy. And if he does that, I think you're looking at thirty five plus saves. You can't just look at teams and say, oh, the Blue Jays are not gonna be great, because look at the padres one less than eighty games, team win close. Kirby Yates led the league in with forty one safe, So you can't really look at teams and I just think that the Blue Jays are gonna be better. And I really like the skills out of Ken Giles as well. I think Edwin Diaz here, let's talk a little bit more

about Tylor Rodgers when we come back. I also wonder about the fatigue, or at least our fatigue with guys like Craig Kimberroll and Kenley Jansen. I think we could at least mentioned here. On the other side, we're also getting to the next year of guys. Guys I really like, I want to live in this next year because what I do put its here of guys that I'm pretty positive at the closers and that's what I'm looking for. We'll break that down for you. Proto next, want to

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dot com backslash dunk to learn more. Back year in the VFF spotted some of your tweets and darks Edward days and I just wotted to Joe saying, hey, I have no problem with the d r RP. One I really don't have no problem is be my first closer off the board. If that's what the value is, he's my highest closure left, so also in that range, and imagine it going to break for guys like Kenley Jansen and Crank Kimbell. And I asked you Frank or post the question. These are just some fatigue with these guys

because they've been around so long. Craik Kimbell signed in June of last year and it was very, very uncomfortable. And you talked last week a little bit about Kelly Jansen stuff not being what it once was, and Blake trying and possibly you serveyan Kenley Jannson at some point. The first question is who would you rather have between Kimberroll and Jansen. The second question is do you want either?

I don't really want either. And I actually had this exact decision to make in one of my NFBC Draft Champions League so far, Greg and I wound up going with Kenley Jansen. But I think no matter who you go with there, you're not going to feel great about it. Obviously, the Dodgers, like the Yankees, expected to be one of the best teams this year, probably going to win a hundred, maybe more than a hundred games, but there is serious

concern over Kenley Jansen. The e r A was, you know, the highest that that it's space it's ever been for Kenley Jansen. Last year. The velocity has been down in the second half. He allowed more line drives last year. The whip was the highest that has been for Kenley Jansen. Like we have legitimate concerns. There are a bunch of you know, warning signs when it comes to him. But again, I still think that he is the closer for his team right now, and obviously Dave Roberts has a ton

of faith and trust in Kenley Jansen. But frankly, I do worry about the skills starting to erode a little bit here, Greg, But the fact that he plays for a really good team and you know he's gonna get the benefit of the doubt. I think the least is gonna be pretty long. He's probably going to be safe for at least another thirty to thirty five saves, assuming he's healthy. He also has a heart condition. But I also think that, like I think Kimberall's job is even

safer with the Chicago Cubs, like Kelly Johnson. We just talked about like training last week, right who's up next for the Cubs. Who's another guy that's going to be the guy? Steve c Scheck. Is that what we're talking about. D c Scheck is now with the White Sox, Pat

Stroke is on the Cincinnati Reds. Jeremy je Ris Austin round but last year had an ear a over five right, So you want to know that the actual answer is that the one that people have been drafting is this gentleman named Rowan Wick is a two point four one point one four with thirty five strikeouts in thirty three innings pitched. He's the name. So that's the name that

people are hand. I think Craig kimber full off season and give it a year younger than Kenley Jansen, but didn't have a brutal season as well, or second half of the second half was good, but the overall season was fine. Thirteen eight six or nine walked up ton of people. Ere was good. Extra was fine. I thought it was okay. I'm not having dove in this obviously. Freik Kimberll in the second half of eighteen had a four point five seven e r A for what that's worth.

Greig thirty four strikeouts its whey one in two thirds an ex pitch. But I almost give him the benefit of the doubts. I'm with you because last year he joins the Cubs late, he doesn't pitch until June. Because of all the draft compensation that was attached to Craig Kimbrill, and some people thought that he was overvaluing himself. He wanted to get paid some kind of monster contracts, similar to what role this Chapman got a couple of years ago from the Yankees. That was never going to happen

for Craig Kimberle. But do you agree that both of these guys are adequately ranked like where they're going, So I shouldn't be valued the same way that they have been in years past my rankings. So who do you have just behind them? Liam? Here's Brad Hand and Ken Giles. You really don't like Ken Jiles? Huh, I guess we're not gonna get Ken Jiles. Basically he's the number one closer of number one closer target of mine. Really well,

let's make it Robards number one. That's fine because I just mean based on you know, price versus upside and skill level. And I think, let me tell you the guy I have them of things there first day the guy had directly above them, and that's Taylor Rodgers, right, pitching for a really good Twins team. Really good stuff ran away with this closer's job last year. I understand that kind of came from nowhere, and he wasn't the guy we expected to be the closer for the Minnesota Twins.

But if you trust the Taylor Rodgers can keep this job all season long. Rodgers is no grander pick here inside the top ten. Yeah, and that's if you trust it, right. And he was phenomenal last year, There's no doubt about that. I mean to six one e r A with a one zero zero whip, he's actually done a two years in row. Greg, He's had a sub too six five e r A two years in a row. He's he had a zero point nine five whip in eighteen, a

whip of right around one in twenty nineteen. And the strikeouts actually went up last year right around twelve case for nine. The command got better, the walks went down. Uh. Yeah,

I think there's a lot to like. Obviously, the Twins are expected to win a ton of games this upcoming season, and looking into Taylor Rodgers, I wanted to see, well, what are the splits because obviously he's a lefty and I want to see, no, is there any opportunity that he's just really good against lefties and kind of got hip hard by right He's Nope, there is no worry about that whatsoever. In fact, lefties were actually better against

Taylor Rodgers than righties. He did a great job of neutralizing both two O eight batting average with a six eleven o p s against right handed batters last year. Greg he can handle both sides of the play. And there were a lot of these guys were naming. There's all these managerial changes, right, and team philosophy changes. It's not the case in Minnesota. It's the same exact management team that's been there. Sure, bench coach has gone and

pitch coach has gone. In a bunch of play, those of these guys have gone, but same general manager, same president baseball operations, and Rockabadelli is still the manager for the Minnesota Twins. He named Taylor Rodgers the closer. He watched Taylor Rodgers get thirty saves for him last year. And yes, Trevor May is still there, and yes, ty Duffy is still there, and Sergio Romo is still there,

and Tyler Clipper You're still there. It's a lot of Romo five years old, right, There's a lot of names. Five Taylor Rodgers proved himself for this crew last year. And that's why for me um he is number six and leam of him. Number six. As well, So I'm I like him. Why do we both like him over Leon Hendricks though, that's my question, Like I have it, well, all right, I'll tell you exactly why. Taylor Rodgers has now been an elite reliever for two years in a row,

and Liam Hendricks has shown flashes. But what he did last year was something he had never done before and it was due to a velocity spike. And I don't want to downplay that, Like, if Liam Hendricks continues to have that velocity spike that he had last year and continues to get as many swinging strikes and strikeouts, then he is not going to be this year's Blake Trinan.

And I don't want people to think that, oh, we're just making a lazy comparison, because it's the Oakland A's closers and they're both they were both being drafted, as you know, top five or even top ten options from one year to the next. But Liam Hendricks did things

last year that he never did before. So I think you're okay to be skeptical of that performance and whether or not it's going to carry over from year to year, And if it does, then yeah, he's easily going to wind up being a top five closer because the a's are going to be gray. It's a good ballpark to pitching as well. Uh. And he showed us some of that upside last year, but again, you don't know if that velocity necessarily is going to carry over. And it

was by far the best year of his career. He come through with him as your first closer, comfortable, ish, I have him at nine, just ahead of Kenley Jansen and Craig Kimbero. Ideally, I would want one of my top eight guys. That's the difference again between us Brad Hanna, ken Giles. But to me, again, I have a top eleven, so it doesn't really matter to me. I just want one, really,

one of these guys. Ideally, let's move on to the next ten or so, into the next tier, and mine's not necessarily the Fantasy pros the average Jeff rankings, because as I said, Frank, I want guys that I know you're going to be the closer, and that's what make up my next year. So I'll read in these names and you let me know your thoughts, right Nector Nurses in here, because I, as you know, I don't trust

Hector Narius or the Phillies. Okay, well maybe Joe Giardi does Greg even probably not Brandon Workman, Alex klam A, Hans Robless. As we heard today and in Shawn's update, ricel Iglesias, Archie Bradley Way like a lot, who was a La clerk, Kiona Kela and Will Smith make up my next tier. I noticed that there's no Mr Anderson, there is there is no Nick Anderson. Well, we talked

to it, Tam. We talked to the announcer, oh the Tampa Bay race stats, and he's just like, I don't know Jose Alvarado and he's much closer to the the team than I am and you are. And this industry is we have no idea who the closing was. The closers are the race non zero. I'm not I'm not paying this price tag on a Nick Anderson, as good as this stuff can be, when the really the nine names that I just named, the eight names, they're all the closers.

They've all been announced as the closers. Now, this is just betting on on the cream rising to the top, Craig, That's all it is. Would hear if you're drafting Nick Anderson because The reason you would do that is because he has. If you just look at his skills in terms of strikeout rate and everything that he posted last year, he was a top five, top ten reliever in baseball all around. Agree that he is going to be the best reliever in that pen and that they're going to

value him as such in Tampa Bay this year. Then you could potentially have the top closer this season. He could be this year's Kirby Yates. He could be a year ago. At this time, we're talking about who's Alvarado a similar spot? Right? And look, I'm just playing Devil's still there. I'm just playing Devil's advocate because I'm probably

not drafting Nick Anderson if he continued. Would be surprised to you, Frank, if game five of the regular season Nick Anderson starts for the rais why, probably be a little surprised. He didn't start any games last year, did he? No, he did not. They didn't use him as an opener last A full season with him change. I'm just not investing a high pick in a rate. I agree. I agree with you. I'm just playing Devil's ade. Skills are amazing when it comes to Nick and that's what people

are looking at. It's worth men name. I am defending where I have it ranked. I brought this up to you. Matt Modica in the tout Wars draft and whole draft, took Nick Anderson in the ninth round, one closer after Edwin Diaz, two picks after Taylor Rodgers, and he took Nick Anderson ahead of Kenley Jansen. He took him a head of Brad Hand. He took him a head of Ken Giles. I will say everybody else, I will say that towt Wars, the NFBC, those are different. What you're

trying to achieve is a little bit different. You're trying to win overall in the NFBC. Well, in tow Wars, it's just a team league. And you know, I mean there's no there's no overall components. So he's not like swinging for the fences. He literally just taught. He just took the best closer he thought was available, and that

was Nick Anderson. I don't agree with Matt in that regard. Look, I think he has all the talent in the world, and there's a chance, you know, the guy has nine plus strikeouts this year, But how many says, what are you setting over under for saves that with him fifteen and a half exactly, and that's the problem. And then a lot of people get Frank's take on all these guys and what he's kind of next true looks like when we come back here. I love be fs. Want

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longer from Cincinnati's own good stuff. Here's buddy. Shout out to Derrick Davis. Appreciate it. Yeah, this edition of the Inside lines with the best, our best, yet we might not make it there. That's tasty. That's stuff, good stuff, durg it on a Monday. Are you are we allow to do this? Creek? I think I make the rules. I was about saying, there you go. All right? Um, I need a bunch of guys that are in my

next year. Random Workman, Alex Coleman, Hans Rob Lass, Rice ell Iglesias, Archie Riley, jose La Clerk, Kella uh and Will Smith. I think I did these move Kiana Killa down. Um, there's my initial reaction here, but these are the guys that I feel really good about being being the closer for the respective teams not having a nice season. My next year includes Givanna Gagos, who we're speculating give me the closer, but Andrew Miller Ko wind up being there?

I was rightis wind up with the closer, Carls Maartinez peop in the little pen. I think there's a lot more questions with the gayegos. Velocity down for Carlos Martinez over the weekend as well. Surprised he will not have on any of my teams. Hector Nerris, Joe Himenez, who stinks, uh Ian Kennedy. You know, I think you should rethink Joe him Man, E Kennedy, Wade Davis, my Man, Brandon Kinseler.

You know, I like Brandon Kindler. Like Brandon Kinseler as well as a third option, not not a second closure neither. Washington guys like everybody loves Sean Doolittle, like Danny Hudson very well, maybe the closer there. I don't get the day, the little thing Tony Watson, maybe the cape caplosn't screw it up. And then of course the raised guys is the sky Blue Greg. Of course Gabe Kapler is gonna mess it up. And then whoever the closers in Seattle, which I asked you about. I was like, yeah, Matt

McGill versus Yoshi Harano versus you know who else? They fine before opening day. So that's that's why, that's what my deal is. Yeah, that's Look, that's basically everybody, right, I'll try try everybody. I'll say this, Greig, I think you should rethink Joe him is and I think you should look into him. The reason being he had a four three seven e r A last year. He had

a four one nine x fit. His skill interactive e r A was three point four one, and his underlying metrics were phenomenal percent swinging strike creed, thirty five percent chase rate. His sixty seven percent first strike percentage was also in the elite category. He throws hard, he has a fastball, he uses a slider, mixes in a change just barely, but over twelve case per nine. Greg, he's got to work on the walks a little bit here,

But I think Joe Jimenez as a third closer. I don't want him as my second closer, but you know, in a similar range as a brand kinseler, I think someone I could get you more strikeouts. Both teams are not gonna be great. But when you introduced Jo him and as you said, he stinks, all right, so listen, I'll take that far back, but I feel good at that.

I hadn't got Kiota Keller to the other crew. And then Brandon Workman really high, you're not worried about what anything going on with the Boston Red Sox because they were hesitant to give him that role basically all of last year, even with him being the best reliever on the staff than they did. And then Ron Rednecky said he's the closer. He has said that ready. I just think it's far from a short thing. He also walks a ton of batters too. Isn't his walk right like

over five per nine enough? I've all just he does get He does get a lot of strikeouts. Right to last year, phase for nine Greg five point six five walks for nine for Brandon Workman one A right looks great thirty eight percent hard contact rate, the x fit over three Swingen strike right. Not nearly as good as Joe Himenes, Greg Chase right, not nearly as good as Joe him Is this I'm not gonna be in on Brandon Workman. I was just off the list. I was

gonna move Will Smith up. Is he definitely the closer there? Will Smith is not the closer. Molansen has already been named the clothes. But it's one of those weird situations where Will Smith is the best reliever on in that bullpit down So it's it's like Josh Hayter from a couple of years ago, where he wasn't the closer, but you knew he was the best reliever there, and he

was always just kind of lingering. That's why you can't really draft Mark moll Anson with much confidence, because again, there's someone behind him who is better than him, who can get more strikeouts than him, doesn't walk as many batters as Mark Molanson does, and Mark Mollanson it seems like he's basically the closer just because he's making a

lot of money. Greg so is Will Smith. So yeah, but I think that they signed Will Smith thinking that he was going to be there fireman putting out the fires, you know, uh, seventh eighth inning whenever there's you know, the best hitters coming to a to the plate, or there's you know, a big jam to get out of. I think Will Smith is probably going to be used in that role because he is the best reliever in

that pulpan. Right. So, then of the next tier of guys land and I named, who's your number one guy who's gonna you trust the most? Is Archie Bradley. I want to say Archie Bradley, but just because I don't think that there's anyone else there in Arizona that you know like you on Lopez. We knew about from last year with Brad Ziegler, right because Brad Ziegler put us put us on him. But last year, yeah, I mean Joan Lopez was fine. He just doesn't get a lot

of strikeouts. Forty two strikeouts and sixty one and a third endings pitch that's not gonna get it done. Hector Ron Done was fine last year. He has some closing experience. Junior Gara has you know, been around. He was with the Milwaukee Brewers, former starter with the team, And so I think Archie Bradley is actually pretty safe here, Greg, but the whip one point four four for Archie Bradley last year and he struggles big time with walks. This is why, this is why all these guys are this

next year. Right, That's that's obviously why um Hans Robles had a great year last year. Already named the closer by Joe Madden. You heard that from Seawoman earlier. Richell Glaciers, everyone was off last year. Maybe he should be the topic. I seear Archie Bradley four point five walks for nine, his highest since two thousand and fifteen. So really struggled with the command last year and he's swinging strike Greg, greg nine point six. That's below league average. Right, I

want to like Archie Bradley. He's he's probably the name that I trust most at his next up on this list right to the Glaciers He's he's there as well. I think he's like just outside the top twelve. And there are a few other names, uh there. In Cincinnati when it comes to they signed Pedro Strop, who you know filled in at times with the with the Chicago Cubs. Mere Garret's a great reliever. He just hasn't been used as as the closer before. Michael Lorenzen is kind of

like that two way player. I don't think he's actually like a threat to the closer's role. What about Alex Columnett thirty four saves for Rice Ley Glaciers last year. I probably feel better about Rice Ley Glaciers than I do callum Me. The underlying numbers for Columny were not good. You look at you know, all the skill indicators, and the x fit was not great, much higher than the

e r A four Alex column A last year. And they just signed Aaron Bummer to an extension, five year extension, and I think that there is a chance that, like if column A struggles, I don't think that he's going to have that that long lash because that's a team is trying to compete and they want to now. And Aaron Bummer last year was ridiculous two point one three e r A zero point nine nine whip um he was great. He was actually better than Alex Collinmate. So

column is someone who worries me. Doesn't get a ton of strikeouts either. Two more names are in this crew for me, hans A Robless and jose La clerk. Now we've mentioned Robles a few times on the show. The clerk was a top pick last year as the reliever, um and really let you down right. He lost his job in April, did Jose La Clerk, And he was my once three. He's my tenth or leven the closer off the board last year, right behind Curby Yates and I got lucky and I draft the Curby rates in

most spots. Um, but whose the clerk was really liked last year? Lost his job very early right after signed that contract extension, struggle out of the year, eventually got his job back. It's already been announced he is the closer once again for Texas. It makes sense they just paid him, so he kind of has to be. Are you following the money here with Josi La Clerk? Yeah, I mean he's a he's a risky one as well. You want to like him because he has phenomenal strikeouts stuff,

but struggles big time time with command as well. What I will say about Jose La Clark is that there's not much competition there. Like the setup man is Rafael Montero. Yes, that Rafael Montero, Greg the New York Mets. Rafael Montero. So I think that there is a good amount of job security here for the clerk still only twenty six years old. The strikeouts were great last year of over thirteen case per nine walks for nine five point one one. Greg. He's he's not gonna be a target of mine, Jose

La Clark, He's not I thought he would be. He's not gonna be a target. There's a name that I found when Craig and I were doing like outside one thousand a DP in the UH in the NFBC. I think it's DeMarcus Evans. Look into this kid, Greg, because Marcus he's on the Texas Rangers. He's in there, he's in their farm system. Twenty three years old. He had twelve saves last year in the minor leagues between High A ball and Double A, and the strikeout numbers are

absolutely ridiculous. So that's like my dark horse, just shot in the dark throwing a name out there. Uh, DeMarcus Evans of the Texas Rangers. Pay attention to that name for the Rangers this year, La Clerk, He's going to be given the first opportunity. Greg, There's no doubt about that. But I I worry about the command just he hasn't really shown the ability to uh to really harness that

in and build off of that. I worry. I worry about the command and the walks when it comes to uh clerk, Is there is there anybody else that we haven't named that you want to get into? You know, you like Diegos? Is there anybody else? We have two minutes to go. You haven't got a chance to mention? Yeah, diagos Um. It's interesting just because he was a nasty reliever last year and we're trying to figure out what's

going to happen with the Cardinals this year. Everyone's drafting Diegos like he is going to be the closer, but obviously Andrew Miller is still there. You mentioned that Greg Koni Kelly you mentioned is someone that I'm interested in, but could be traded halfway through the season. The Pirates are not going to be are not expected to be competitive this upcoming season. Kyle Crik is the next name up.

Find Koni Killer to pay attention to their I've been drafting a lot of the raise guys, just like in some of these deeper drafts not named Nick Anderson. But what about what about taking Alvarado, I mean twelve team draft, you want that third closer Randy Kinseler. Randy Kinsler see, I mean we can put him on the list. He's going to be the closers for the Marlins. They don't spend a lot of money. They sign him to a

one year, four million dollar contract. Randy Kinseler is going to be the closest bbff IS draft and Randi Kinsler say that much. Roll COEs Coches next rolls back here in New Jersey. Enjoy that for Shans Malakia, Alex Passano, Frank Stanfel and Greg Sousman will do it all again tomorrow. We hope I want to be the next Daily Fantasy millionaire. Dunk on your NBA DFS competition with Daily Rodal dot com and dominate on fandel and draft kings this season.

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