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You're listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network Fantasy Best Friends Forever, m Do Do to Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Doo to do did it do Yo? This is the Fantasy Best Friends Forever here on the Fantasy Sports Radio Network, alongside Frankie stamp Well. I am Greg Sauceman Gregg. What's going on on the pretty long weekend? Fun times? As long as an interesting dude there? Yet? I was your I woke up. I think I'm sick, but like I don't it might just be like sick. I don't know. I think I might

be super dehydrated. To be honest with you, I think that's what it is. We're not drinking yesterday, No Saturday. Was that drinking they'll dehydrated from Saturday. Dude. I was a mess yesterday Mornday. I was hung over for quite a while. Um, and then I thought I was through it, and then I woke up this morning, Ale, I am, I am not in a good place, and I like

me Saturday more. Yes, that's exactly what it was. And of course Judy is running around like she's always one that sleeps late and gets hungover, and she's like running around the apartment. I'm sitting there like, oh my god, what is happening life? It was not gonna have a playoff kickball game tonight, Final four. Monday's Monday kickball Monday Thursday. This week if we make it Thursday. Yeah, Well, our number two hitters out with an injury. He heard his

knee last week. Number two hitter, kick kicker. He's hurt, so he's not gonna play, which is a little scary, but we'll see what we can do. You know the guy who the guy who backs you up. Yeah, he's awesome. It's it's my guy. It's come big. Jets fan watched the show good job. Yeah, Saturday was a crazy day. Um, we had a draft. Frank of course showed a late, as he does every year every g s T draft that we have. I think it was there for the

first selection. You were there for our first selection and not the first selection of the draft, even though it starts supposed to start at eleven. Drank out there closer to twelve eleven thirty. I took an uberpool. Man. You can't control those things, you can't, um, and then I had to leave early so I had more important business to tend to. What kind of business, Greig? I am also now engaged, yes, and that's why we were on drinking on Saturday night at one point. At one point

everybody in the control room today, I was engaged. Yeah, I'm married, doesn't have a girlfriend that's single? Engaged? So how has that change your life? I wasn't. How did everything go? Everything went great? It went really really great. Our buddy Steve was gonna be here a little bit. It was fantastic. With the pictures, he just said them gonna be this morning, so I was able to take

a look at them. Sweet. He was awesome with them. Um. She walked in and we had the front of a restaurant decorated, and she walked right past the decorations and then I popped out and I was supposed to be at a draft which just was it just left early, um, and she was like, hey, what are you doing here? Like turn around, turn around to the direction the decorations. She's like, I knew it, and I'm like did you though,

Like your nails aren't done, you have no idea? And uh, we got the proposal and then she was just like, oh my god, this is happening to me. This is me. You're like, yeah, the best part is the whole story. She'll kill me for saying this if I'm going to. So I get down on one knee and I say some things. She later told me she expected a little bit more out of the out of the speech. On the knee, I told I was like, listen, I mean, I can't even think right now. I wasn't writing a

whole paragraph here or a poem right exactly. So I said, you know, a couple of lines, um, And then before you get off with knee, she grabs up the ring, the box of the ring out of my hand, takes the ring and puts it on her finger herself, and then proceeds to put it instead of putting on her ring finger up on her index finger, and she was, oh my god, oh my god, like, what are you doing. I go it's on the wrong finger and she she's literally shaking, and she's just like, I don't know, I'm

not used to this. And and and about an hour later, we're eating and she's like, did I ever say yes? Like no, but it's cool. Um, at least you said some things. I mean when I did know, I was just like, yeah, you know, we were talking to our friends. We were talking to our friends um later that night, and he was like, at least you were better than that. He was. He got on one knee and he just he couldn't speak. He was just like, ah, I was

like a robot, like a robot. Robot. I wasn't a robot, but it wasn't like as calculated as I normally am, or was like like moving my hands as normal. I was just in the zone, you know, beforehand to the nerves. I was offered quite a few, and I just wanted to be like totally sober for it. Not that one shots can do anything. But the problem was we had a bottle champagne there at the restaurant. Went back to

our apartment where our families were waiting. Uh, had quite a bit more champagne at that point, and then went to the bar and like took quite have been a few shots and drinks and beard and it was just like a whole mixture. And that was why I was like disaster. And then of course the second bar then plays the brutal Morris song Marry You, and everyone went crazy. Yeah I know, um. And then I drafted them in the morning and noon and spinning carton draft morning as

it was a wild, wild weekend. How was your weekend, Frank, Uh, not nearly as eventful as that. Um. Friday was a good time. And then Saturday I had to drafts. Sunday I also had two drafts, and little did I know, I'm a huge Kirk Cousins fan. I ended up with Kirk Cousins, and I think four out of five drafts I've done since Thursday, it just seems like he just keeps ending up being the guy that's available when I want to take a quarterback, and it seems like he

could take the the elite, elite level jumper. I think because I wasn't in the room on Sunday, I didn't necessarily realize who you were you had and like, I was shocking you didn't the best tight on the board where Glenny Walker and Trey Burtons, Like Frank's clearly in to date Trey Burton to make sure he gets them that I did, and I texted you was like, how

did you take him? Was like, dude, I have zach ERT's Like, oh, okay, that Gert's too, another guy who was just randomly going on the fifth round now everywhere every year. I don't really know why. Yeah, um, we had a Gronk and Eleague. We didn't see that coming. I ended up with Gronk in two drafts that I've done since the Thursday night was the beat Frank Standfeld draft and then over the weekend Saturday GST. We end up with Gronk again in the middle of the third round. Again,

you're getting a when healthy borderline first round talent. It's just a matter of how healthy is he going to be, But you baked that into where he's being drafted. He's going in the middle of the third round. Yeah, it's pretty good value. It's great listen, it's great value. And I saw people actually on Twitter talking about it as well. I think it was having Silva that was like, hey,

I'm not the ground guy. Might have been Pianowski, Okay, because I'm not the grunk guy, but when he's there in the middle of the third round, you gotta pull it.

And oh because I sent the text to you guys, because Pianowski started his draft Kareem Haunt, Keenan Allen and then Rob Gronkowski, and I was like, and when we were in this draft, we had six pick, seventh pick, and at that point, Antonio Brown was falling right and seeing all the running backs go and it's very interesting watching and this is now the second consecutive draft, but we just saw all the running backs just get pushed up, even ahead of Antonio Brown and DeAndre Hopkins. Um, we

see you get pushed up. And I was like, we should take Kreem Hunt. And it is a three man team. And at that point, both Florio and Franker Lake Antonio browns the move and we wound up taking Antonio Brown. And in the second round, I really wanted Keenan Allen

um compair with Cream Hunt. Now, Cream Keenan Allen was there, but at that point I did not want to take a chance on Alex Collins being my number one running back as Frank pushed heavily, and at that point Frank got outvoted and we took Davante Freeman with our second bit pick. Then the third round, we were just like which running back to we want? Which wide receiver do we want? Because we would could went in every direction, and we were about to I think, probably pulling the

trigger at Alex Collins. I guess um, and then I just look at the board. I'm like, holy crap, we're at three seven and Gronk is still there. And Frank and I basically looked at each other and we knew it, like as soon as I said it, and frankly got the board, He's just like, we have to pull this. Like I don't want Gronk because I can draft, but the value is just too good. We gotta do it.

So my biggest takeaway, as he mentioned zach Ertz and I mentioned Gronk, the tight ends, much like the receivers, they're all falling, they're all following. His running backs continue to get pushed up the draft. Whether it's a Royce Freeman, whether it's Jamal Williams, everybody's getting pushed up drafts. Right now, and the tight ends are now falling. Gronk in the middle of the third round is incredible value. I think Earth's in the fifth is great value. Kelsey and the fourth.

It all makes sense to me. Um, that's kind of how our early part of the draft went. Frankie. Yeah. So basically, when we took Davante Freeman in the second round, reminder, this is a full point PPR league. I was telling these guys, let's say Keenan Allen and receiver. At that point, I think, look, you started Antonio Brown, Keenan Allen, You're gonna get two plus receptions out of those two guys. Um, So I think if we did that, we probably don't

take Gronk in the third. We probably come back and take Alex Collins, will make sure that we locked down r RB one in the middle of the third round. But seeing the way things turned out ultimately, I don't really mind what we did. I'm again, I'm not a big DeVonta Freeman guy. I feel like I've been pushing him down a little bit. I'm worried about not a little bit you were. I want to make this very clear, and I could have him ranked very highly like a high n RB two, so which is what we're RB one.

But Frank was so angry. Remember we talked about like angry Frank, and he comes in here and he's just like really mad. He's just like really really mad and full around. I'm joke and makes him angrier when we joke about that. And there's just certain days where stuff's going on downstairs or in his life where he just comes in he's angry. So on Saturday, he was very hungover, so he was already not the best mood. Like, once he got some water in him, he was totally fine.

He started drinking against drink before the king. Yeah, so all was fine once you got the water in him. But he comes in drunk, he comes and hungover. And then that when he had DeVonta Freeman, that was as angry as I Frank ever, and then the Gronk thing kind of proked him up a little bit and he was so man Javonta Freeman and I just all on all honesty. Couldn't make Alex Collins by RB one And

that's what pour me. Apart from that pick. Yeah, I mean, ideally you don't want Alex Collins to be or RB one but you can afford to take the hit at running back when your first two wide receivers are Antonio Brown and Keenan Now And so that's what I was thinking. But you know, looking back on it again, I said, the way it turned out, it made me feel a little bit better because we got arguably the number one wide receiver and then we got not arguably in my opinion,

he is the number one tight end. So we have two of the best players at their positions. We have a solid low end RB one and DeVonta Freeman. And the reason I worry about him is, look, he's been trending downwards for three straight years now. His usage with Steve Sarkisian was questionable. Last year he was under forty receptions. This is a PPR league, and you have the concussions

on top of all that. So I feel like we have all the warning signs right there in front of us or DeVonta Freeman, yet we're still still taking him in the middle of the second round. Um so whatever, he's a solid low end RB one. Uh. And then we come back around in the fourth round and we're debating. I want to I want to actually, I want to I want to stop you St'll be right there just for a second. Because one name who has obviously risen

from where we started this a while ago. I go back to our Todd Who's the next Todd Gurley show? It was Christian McCaffrey. Right, like Christian McCaffrey's preseason has made him has made my first round pick. Essentially, he went to three in this draft. But he's close to that swing now. He's closer to the swing. And I was talking to my friends on Saturday night, and you know, normal home league draft, and you're saying, all the running backs go and get pushed up, and and because of that,

DeAndre Hopkins, O'Dell Beckham, these guys are falling. People are drafting pretty consistently that I've seen, maybe not in our draft. Christian McCaffrey in a PPR or half PPR over Dalvin Cook now, and that was not something that I had previously seen. And there he's much closer to Dalvin Cook. It seems like that he wants to devote Freeman. I have them back to back, and I was really taking Freeman over McCaffrey the whole way. That's not the case anymore.

And now in those half point PPR and the PPR I'm closing in on pushing him right past Cook as well. I don't know where I am right now on that, but it's very close. It is very close. And I could see people painting the picture for McCaffrey over Dalvin Cook, because if you're buying this North Turner has always had a workhorse running back UM theory pretty much, then you think that McCaffrey is gonna be the guy. Personally, I still feel like, yes, they haven't you see to Anderson

all that much in the preseason. He'll still get some work throughout games. But I think there's concerns for both still. Dalvin Cook coming off the A c L. We know how much I like him, but both offensive lines are questionable right now, dealing with injuries even more so the Panthers. Now that can help the reception total for McCaffrey, but I worry about UM his efficiency a little bit more, and I mentioned I generally don't worry about efficiency with

workhorse running backs. I just don't know that is Christian McCaffrey really gonna get us two carries this year. I don't know that that's happening. I don't know that I'm buying that yet he'll maybe he's at two hundred now two hundred with you know, sixty to seventy receptions, and we get that we get close to the two seventy

five touch mark. But Dalvin Cook, when you know, when we went over the early round running backs and I painted the picture of how much this Vikings team ran the football last year, it was twenty eight carries a game with Latavius Murray and Jerick McKinnon, and then another five receptions per game. We're talking about over thirty touches

per game between those two running backs. So even if you're worried about Latavius Murray being there, I think Dalvin Cook is still gonna be a lot for eighteen and twenty touches per game. Uh. And overall, I just think I like the Vikings offense a little bit more. I think I think they're a little bit more balanced. I like the defense more than the Panthers. They could be

playing with more leads. I think it is very close, but I still have Dalvin Cook rankedead of you know, it's interesting because you mentioned Ottavius Murray and how they split carries with Jerry mckinn. He split carries with Jered McKinnon last year. Um, And that's part of the reason people are are cooling just a bit on Dalvin Cook because Latavius Murray is going to have a role. They have kind of said that, and he's gonna have this

role potentially as a goal lineback. They've also pointed out to the Vikings offensive line troubles where they've had some injuries now during the offseason. The Panthers offensive line troubles are well documented, but they have just fed Christian McCaffrey so precipitously. Um, during this preseason. People are overlooking that and I think both of these guys are just very,

very close. And then it does scare me if they do give Latavius Murray this goal line role, which we've seen him have success with both last year and was last year in Oakland, So you know, are they going to Are we positive? And this is my question to you, Frank, are we positive that Dalvin Cook is going to have more touches what it's all said and done, than Christian McCaffrey. And if the answer is no, isn't Christian caffrey the pick?

I am positive of that? Okay? Me? Me personally, Okay, I think I think Dalvin Cook is in that two forty fifty Carrie range and then it gives I think he gives you another forty to fifty receptions on top of that, maybe even more than fifty. Again, we saw how much they use McKinnon and even Latavias Murray in the past game last year, So I still think fifty

receptions is doable for Dalvin Cook. Maybe early on they've mentioned they're gonna use Latavia's Murray, but as the season goes along, I think they're gonna lean on Dalvin Cook a lot. And you brought up LaTavia. It's Murray taking goal one touches away from Dalvin Cook. Am Newton Gregg like, we can't overlook that's McCaffrey didn't get a single goal line carry last year. Now he has converted some in the preseason, but maybe C J. Anderson gets a few.

I'm not gonna say that he takes it fun. Maybe he takes a few, and then you have to battle with Cam Newton there on the goal line as well. So I think two of those things. Playing against Christian McCaffrey, I think the touch on upside is better for Dalvin Cook. I think the overall yardage upside and touch upside is more so for Dalvin Cook. I will say the receptions is clearly in favor of McCaffrey. That all right, So it's it's getting closer certainly to where it was just

a month ago at this time. Those are from my early first round ish takeaways. Nothing else really surprised me. I guess Stefon Diggs is climbing a bit, and we saw that in both drafts that we and we he went at the he went of the for us, he went in the last second last pick of the second round because you took him right in the in the cart and draft that we had one spot before I was gonna take him. And it looks like Stefon Diggs is now going right after a J. Green in that

wide receiver's here. From what I'm saying, Yeah, I would say that's fair to say. And it's an update on where Royce Freeman is going. He's solidly cemented in that mid third round. He went three six in his DFC draft. We'll talk more about our draft, the trends that we're seeing. All the drafts we took place this weekend and We certainly want your calls four four eight, four three six eight seven nine from the NFL to the NBA. Daily Rodo dot Com is the place to win millions in

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in the third round as nothing really surprised life. It's Gerald's dropping a bit more than I expected. Then he had Josh Gordon go early in the fourth. Now Josh Gordon returns to practice almost immediately injures his hamstring. What do you make of Josh Gordon right now? I am not pulling him up to the fourth yet. I think it's tough because you have to react to the draft, and obviously wide receivers are going earlier in this draft

because it's three wide receivers, it's PPR. You have a flex play as well, it's not super flex, so a lot of people are gonna be flexing wide receivers. So Josh Gordon gets pulled up the board a little bit here. But again when we spoke about Josh Gordon last week, not much has changed for me. I have him in that tier with Jarvis Landry, with with Allen Robinson, those guys, so I mean they're starting to go off the board.

In my opinion, where he went, I would have taken Jarvis Landry over him, Olden Tate, Chris Hogan I would have taken over him as well. In PPR, I think those guys are just a little bit safer. Again, I like the upside of Josh Gordon, but in the fourth round it seems little bit earlier. I do like the fact that he had Larry Fitzgerald already as his wide receiver one, but again I probably want an eat safer wide receiver than that if I'm taking Josh Gordon as

my wide receiver too, Yeah, I think so too. The injury does scary off obviously. Hamstring isn't necessarily uh deadly by any means not great either. It's not it's not great either, right, and it's one of those things that can linger. No, we've seen hamstrings caused people, you know a week or two, and sake On Barkley certainly looks to be back in full strength and they'll be fine

for opening day. Um, But Josh Gordon's barely practiced, and I'm sure he's in great shape, but like guys barely practiced at all with pads on or anything like that. By the time he comes back and maybe he tries to rush back, he may overcompensate and hurt something else. And I think that's kind of an issue too. So I'm a little nervous about Josh Gordon. I don't think I can push them up to the fourth either right now. Yeah, I think I think that it's fair. We had a

few questions Greg about where Doug Baldwin is going. I remember we were talking about that last week. We had a discussion Doug Baldwin first t Y Hilton and that range um and we saw that Doug Baldwin went with the second pick of the third round. So over asking, I still think he's in the early to mid third round. Rage, I think we're gonna see him go there. Well, we can go back and fall to the late fourth, which

is when I took him on Thursday night. Well we can go back to Cartons the Carton draft on Sunday, where we had back to back picks. I had the first pick, you had the second pick. Uh. And to me there were four. I had Todd Gurley obviously, and you would levy On bell Um, And there were four wide receivers I really liked. And it was might not really like four wide receivers to me that were better than everybody else. I should say it was Mike Evans,

Stefon Dix, Tia Hilton, and Doug Baldwin. And I thought that was essentially a tear by itself. And the one I wanted the most, as we just said, was Stefon Diz who moved up and that was the one you grab. And I was having having a really tough time differentiating between Evans, Hilton, and Baldwin, Like I really didn't know which too to pick out of that um. I wound up going with Evans and and Hilton, And to be honestly,

I don't even know why. I think it's because Baldwin still coming back from the injury that scared me off a bit. And I think Mike Evans when I know I'm not the Mike Evans guy, but we seen him be the wide receiver one before. And you know, I t Y Hilton always has a good connection with Andrew Luck. I think it was really really close with those guys. I know you haven't ranked a little bit differently. Um, that was very tough for me at the two three

turn there. Yeah, so Mike Evans verse Stefon Diggs. I think it is very close right now in the late second round. UM, and we've heard, you know, guys like Matt Modica Corey talked about this on the network. Is diversifying your your your bonds right, like not having the same guys on multiple teams and making sure you change things up a little bit. So the date the day before, UM, on Saturday night, I actually took Mike Evans in my home league, and because of that, Sunday morning, when we

got here we're debating Stefon Diggs versus Mike Evans. I'm like, you know what, I already took Mike Evans last night. I want to change it up a little bit. UM, so I'm gonna go ahead and take Stefon Diggs. And I was with you. I think those guys are pretty much a tear. I think Diggs and Evans is like like a toss up. And then I have Doug Baldwin ranked ahead of We talked about that late last week that you had you had switched Baldwin, Um and Hilton.

Were you confident, and I don't know how much attention you have sing in my draft, were you confident that I would take two of those guys as well? Yeah? Actually told um Greg Biden, your partner host Redfelt breaks by the way, I go to Blackshade Wolf dot com slash f n T s Y you get your spot in the box break. Yeah. So we were talking about it, and I'm like, I know Greg's gonna take Stefon Diggs if I don't take him, right, And I figured the other player, you would definitely take us t Y Hilton.

So I said, you know what, we'll take Diggs, will take whoever he doesn't take of those three wide receivers, and then we'll start, you know, Levian Bell and two wide receivers in a row, Stefon Diggs, Doug Baldwin. That's what we did again. Look, people are worried about the knee. I understand it. But everything that we've heard, and I know Pete Carroll is very optimistic person, but everything we've heard says Doug Baldin will be ready for Baldwin has

has said that himself. He's been running already, So all those things are very encouraging. And I told you that before the injury, I was very very bullish on Doug Baldwin because Jimmy Graham has gone, Paul Richardson is gone, the rest of the wide receiver corps. We have a what we think is a washed up Brandon Marshall, We have an off injured Tyler Lockett Um really no fantasy

relevant tight end. They have Nick Vnette there. But I think there's a chance that Doug Baldwin could just be peppered with targets, just have this monstrous volume year where we're looking at like a hundred and fifty plus targets, and if that happens, he's gonna give you, you know, twelve yards and he's gonna flirt with double digit touchdowns. I really do like him. I think the injury scared me off a little bit, but I'm getting back to

that place where I feel very very strongly about Baldwin again. Yeah, I I get it. I completely get it. You always drafted Doug Baldwin in the past because he was safe. As long as he's healthy, he's going to be safe. He's a safe top twelve wide receiver consistently does that. And now you couple that in with I think he has even more upside. Now you know he has the fourteen touchdown year, but Russell Wilson leaned on Jimmy Graham in the red zone. He doesn't have Jimmy Graham anymore.

Who's the next guy up that he leans on mostly and not since the red zone? Just overall, it's Doug Baldwin. So I think I think we can see a double digit touchdown year out of Doug Baldwin. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't disagree with any of that. So then going back to our draft in the middle of the fourth round, as we're seeing wide receivers get called up,

pushed up, um. That's what with Chris Hogan, right, And Chris Hogan was a fifth rounder just a week or two ago, and we saw him really really get pushed up um and so much so that we were in the middle of the fourth round and we're like, man, which wide receiver do we take Chris Hogan or Golden Tate And and you're like, Hey, I'm the Hogan guy,

and I really I didn't have a lean. I thought this was very, very tough, and just being that PPR league and the fact we already had grown not that you don't want to double up on any Engan offense, but kind of led me towards Golden Tea. I didn't feel strongly either way. Um, but we did wind up Jet and Golden Tate's my only share of him. Uh. Thus far, what do you think of Golden Tate and Chris Hogan that debate? Yeah? I do you think it

was very close. My problem with taking Chris Hogan there already had him was taking Freeman, Gronk and Chris Hogan three picks in a row. That is a lot of injury risk to take on. Yeah, Vonte Freeman with the concussions, We've already spoke about that. Gronk I's had so many ailments in his career already, so you know he's been injury probe. But when he's on the field, he is the best tight end. And then Chris Hogan, Uh, you know a guy who hasn't played sixteen games yet in

his career either. He only played nine games last year. So as much as I love the upside of Chris Hogan. I think there's a lot of risks there. I think, given who we took in the second and third with Freeman and Gron, we come back in the fourth and take that safe wide receiver in Golden Tate to pair with Antonio Brown again for PPR. He's gonna give you ninety receptions, he's gonna give you over a thousand yards that he's gonna be in that four to six touchdown range.

Maybe the touchdowns, maybe the chance they go up. No Eric ebrown this year. That's what you would hope. That's the optimistic way of looking at Golden Tate, But it was really Golden Tate versus Hogan. And if we were looking at running back, we were debating Derrick Henry. But again in a PPR league, full point, PPR doesn't catch a lot of passes. We we went with weaptions. We ultimately felt pretty strongly, I think at that time we're

gonna go wide receiver with Hogan or Tate. Like um, we did consider Henry really more in the third than we did in the fourth, and uh Henry later went in the fourth round, Chris Hogan went in the fourth round. Nothing else really surprising in that fourth and I thought, besides Corey Davis being in that conversation right now, Corey Davis, the hype is real once again, everyone buying in on the Corey Davis speculation. Oh, you're surprised to see him

go to this early. I'm not. Again, like Chris Hogan, he's getting pushed up the draft board. You know they were. There were reports last week that he was. You know, they're lining them up all over the field. They're trying to find creative ways for to get him open. He's gonna be the focal point of their passing attack as well. Um So look, I feel like where you're drafting him now in the fourth round, you're really paying for his ceiling, like you need him to him absolutely off in that

fourth round. So I'm sorry, I just don't know how you can you could draft the Corey Davis over us Chris Hogan as an example, because we've seen Chris Hogan go off in the New Zealand offense like we had see Corey Davis do anything. It's scary. I think it's a scary pick. Yeah. Look, I think you can make the argument for both guys going in the fourth round. Chris Hogan, we we haven't seen him stay healthy, and we're projecting him to take on more of a role

now that Brandon Cooks isn't there. We think he's gonna be the number one wide receiver for the Patriots UM and again, much stronger offense. So you can buy a little bit more so into Chris Hogan going in the fourth than Corey Davis. But if you're a believer in Corey Davis getting you know, volume, being the number one target and his talent, you you couple that opportunity in with the fact that we think he's a very, very talented wide receiver, and ultimately that's what ends up pushing

him up the board into the fourth round. I don't know that I would do it. I had another draft last night. I got him in the fifth round. Um. Well yeah, again in the PPR league, where the wide receivers are getting pushed up the draft board, I'm not really surprised to see it happened. So moving continuing on with our draft, just to give you an idea where people went. We're in the middle of the fifth round.

We don't have an RB two and now for the second consecutive Um, not second consecutive, but second draft that I did this. Uh, we said more Ingram. In the middle of the second round, we're looking at the running backs and um, we had debated Marshawn Lynch, Carlos Hyde uh and and Jamal Williams was out. Jamal Williams, carry On Johnson both out there as well, and we looked they were like, okay, maybe we can pair up a Mark Ingram with Carlos Hide. Ideally was it was the

idea there. Um Frank pushed for Carlos Hides at that spot. I think we all were okay, we were. We all liked Carlos Side, we all liked we all like everybody really at the spot, we were completely on the same page. Um. What made us take markting room here? I think I think the fact that we knew which running backs were left on the board at that time. It was the middle of the fifth round. So there was Lynch, there was Carlos Hide, there was carry On Johnson, there was

Dion Lewis, there was Jamal Williams. So we knew there was at least five running backs left that we liked that if they fell back to us in the sixth round, we can pair that running back with Mark Ingram. We know that when Ingram returns, he's still gonna have his role on this team. I don't think that, you know, Camar is just gonna go ahead and take over. I think Um Kamar will see an upstick and touches. But

Ingram was very, very effective for this team. He's looked all right in the preseason, and you know he was their goal line runner last year. He had more of those in Alvin Kamara. So in that potent offense, you still like marking Room a lot. And then when we were able to pair him with which is something you love doing, Greg, and for your second draft in a room pulling this off. It's getting mark Ingram and pairing him with Jamal Williams, which is something we've been telling

people to do. Yeah, I didn't think I become the Jamal Williams guy. I have. I have Jamal Williams everywhere. I think I absolutely love the guy. What I really liked in this draft was the ability UM to take Aaron Jones A few picks later. I thought we have a really good value there. I saw somebody had a

tax message. Actually, uh this morning about this ast me find it that Matthew Berry and love hate said he believes Aaron Jones could be this year's Alvin Kamara, and I'm like, okay, cool, Well if he doesn't, we have them. And I think that is beneficial. As I was looking at our bench when I came in this morning, we really really well with the death later on, Like, I really like how our team turned out, and I think Jamal Williams, if the hype is real, uh, it could

come out um something really special. So I really liked what we did here, and I really liked pairing Ingram and Jamal Williams. And it kind of went um exactly direction that we were hoping it would. And it's funny because when we were in the sixth round, when we were taking Jamal Williams, we weren't sure which guy to take there. We wanted again Jamal Williams, um, and I really want Robert Woods. I hadn't how to share Robert Woods,

who was my guy. I hadn't had a single share of him all obviously, all all season long, and when he was coming towards us in the seventh round, I was just praying he would get there. Um. It was on Mike Williams go right ahead of him. Randall Cobs. Basically one to three, four, six receivers go directly before Robert was none of them being him, and I was just thrills immediately just jump on that one, would you guys are nice enough to let me have. Yeah, I know.

I think Robert Woods is a very very strong wide receiver three, especially in PPR. I've moved him down a little bit because we're getting a little bit more hype with Cooper cup and I think the fact that they signed Brandon Cooks to that extension, he will have more of a role in this offense. So maybe Cooks, maybe Robert Woods. He's a little bit of a downtick this year, but I think he was a very very safe possession receiver four Jared Goff one season ago. Um, So I

like that a lot. I think that's he's very fine as your wide receiver three in PPR. So looking at our wide receivers Antonio Brown, Golden Tate, Robert Woods and your three wide receivers, and then our running backs end up being Freeman. We'll wait from market. I'm gonna get back. We have Jamal Williams, but then we also have the best tight end in the game in Rob Gronkowski. So I don't really have a problem with the way uh this worked out. I think I think we executed pretty well.

I think so too. I think if you look at the quarterbacks, and we've had some questions about that, um, Aaron Rodgers winds up going in the middle of the fourth round, which is uh, certainly later um than expected and probably will be in your league the middle of

the fourth round, and is an expert draft. And we had we actually had said that after we took Um, after we took Gronk in the third, we had said, if Aar Rodgers gets back to us in the fourth, like, we're seriously gonna have to consider that he went one pick before us. So we didn't and that was fine. Um. The next quarterback I believe was Russell Wilson two rounds later in the same in the middle of the six round.

Quarterbacks did not go nearly as fast as even nearly a yeah, as fast, I actually thought, even though it's an experts league and quarterbacks always get pushed down, I still thought they'd go a little bit earlier. We took our last elite quarterback in the middle of the eighth round.

He got Cam Newton, was pretty pumped about. Yeah, we didn't really know what position we were leaning there at that point, but you know, once you see we saw Carson Wentz go off the board, We saw Andrew Luk go off the board, all before Cam Newton in the eighth round. To me, you know, I still have Cam Newton ranked inside my top four. I think he's part

of that elite group. You have some question marks about the offensive line, but we saw that work to its advantage last year with another mobile quarterback in Russell Wilson. Wilson had a terrible, terrible offensive line last year. Um and because of that, he had to run more and he had more rushing production. And then you coupled that with the fact that Cam Newton has the best weapons

of his career. He has Greg Olsen returning, he has Devin Funches, they draft d J. Moore, Christian McCaffrey is gonna catch a ton of passes out of the backfield. Even Curtis Samuel has looked good in the preseason here too. So you know, another gadget player that they can use logan Cam Newton in the eighth round. I think that's fine.

Value Again, you know, we were really value based draft here. Um, we didn't come into this draft thinking we wanted Ronk in the third round, but when he lasts that long, you just say, look, there's a point where the value is too good. You take Ronk and in the eighth round again at the quarterback position, the value is just too good. You just don't pass up on an elite quarterback like Cam Like that, we mentioned Josh Gordon a little bit earlier on Hugh Jackson has already said that

Josh Gordon will not start the opener for Cleveland. He may play, he may play, he will not start. Even if he's one week one regular season. That's that's tough because obviously you don't want to get off to a slow start in fantasy. So you know, you take Josh Gordon a fourth fifth round range as your second or third wide receiver, it's easier to swallow that pill when he is your third wide receiver. But again, like we see here, a lot of people are ending up with

Gordon as their second wide receiver. And the fact that he's not going to start, and we know that in week one, Um, it's a little it's tougher to pull that trigger there in the fourth round. Yeah, it is and you just know even if he's he's not going to start again, that might not mean anything. I mean, he might come off the bench after one play and play a full game. Right, You have two receptions in

the red zone to have two touchdowns. Yeah, exactly. So I just wanted to give the full information essentially of what we had. Um kind of looking more at the gd s C draft and we'll go on to the next draft of the second here, Frank, Um, we got the Kelvin Benjamin in the ninth, which I know you liked. I pushed from Marquis Lee, which would have been a disaster. Um, so I'm happy with the very next pick that that would have been very very sure we survived. Marquis Lee

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all the time, and great promotions for free prizes. Keep it a lookout for Fantasy Factors free million dollars survivor contest opening up about a week before NFL kickoff. Good a Fantasy Factor dot com. That's Fantasy Factor dot com. State restrictions to apply. Frankie, I mentioned mark easily went one pick after we'd selected Kelvin Benjamin in the draft A league moments later essentially shredded up his knee and he just plays on injury reserve, expecting to miss the

entire season. I was pushing for a Jacksonville receiver before that because we didn't know who would emerge. All four of them were on the board for a while before Marky's lee went, and then mon Creeve, d D Westbrook and Keeling Cole stay for a very very long time. You and I believe like our third to last round wound up taking Dante Moncreef from the second last round. He took him. He picked defense before that. Yes, the Denver Broncos. I just wanted to lock that up because

I'm very bullish on them as well. Feel like people are sleeping. You know, he's just leaving all the Cardinals. That's the defense on our own. Look, Greg, we subscribe to the Nando theory before the weekend started, and we mentioned who did the Cardinals face on Sunday Night? They faced decimated Cowboys offensive line. What did the Cardinals go out and do last night decimate them? They decimated the Dallas Cowboys. That defense looks strong too. Yeah, I think

so too. Cardinals and Broncos. I think people are just forgetting about them. I agree with you. Um, actually drive Jane the Broncos in a few places now. Actually, yeah, Look, whenever you have elite pass rushers like that Bradley Chubb and Von Miller together, I mean even Night is still there too, and keep to leaves not but Harris is Chris. Harris is a very very strong player too. Yeah. So anyway, Um, Marcus Lego's down and all I've read about on Twitter

is healing. Cole and and J J. Zack Yes, and over a Vanduel was literally like Healing Cole season, and I'm like, wow, everybody is super duper high on Healing Cole and and for me, I'm just like number one, I'm following the money with Dte Monk. And I've said that to you before the markets Lee injury. I'm saying it after like they went out and paid this guy. And I think he was starting already in two wide receiver sets. Marks still starting obviously in two wide receiver sets.

The other spots gonna belong to either D. D. Westbrook or Healing Cole. I think both are talented. Obviously Westbrook at the off the field problems which dropped his draft stock, but he really went off last preseason. I think now he's healthy, given a full role, he could turn out to be the guy if there ultimately is a guy in Jacksonville, given how much they run the ball Frank out of Dozing, Helan Cole and D. D. Westbrook, which one would you rather have? If I had to choose one,

it would be Healing Cole. And I think you just look at what he did last year. He actually led this team in receiving with seven forty eight yards, only had three touchdowns, but he did that only getting eighty one target so you know, he had a bunch of deep passes down the field. At eleven receptions of twenty plus yards also led the team in that category. It wasn't close. The next closest, Marquis Lee, had six receptions of twenty plus yards. Uh, he had seventeen point eight

yards per reception. So look, he's six ft one. I think he's a good combination of size, speed. He gets down the field, he's dynamic, can make the deep catch, he can they can also use him in the red zone. Uh. He had a solid postseason as well, So I think you know that's why people are starting to hype up Helan Cole. He's like he's like a metrics guy, like where you look into the advanced numbers and he abotually looks really good. But if you watch him play, he

also looked really good. Ultimately, if he starts to get pushed up the draft board too much, I don't want much exposure of the Jaguars passing offense regardless, because again, it could be frustrating. It could be d d Westbrook, it could be Dante Moncreeve. Uh. They drafted DJ Chark for a reason too, so people were talking him up as well. If I had to take one, it would be Healing Cole. But if you wanted exposure to the Jaguars passing offense for whatever reason, I don't know why,

just take the one that's going latest in drafts. Like if you're in a draft and you see the other two go between Westbrook and Celan Cole or vice versa, just take whichever one you can get cheapest. But if I had to whose one, it would be Celing Cole. I get it. I get it that that's and that's reasonable too. Uh. I know one of the top handcuffs you've been in on all off season for your Frank has been um Chase Edmonds, like you love Chase Edmonds out there in Arizona. Good news for you, not great

news to the Cardinals. H d J. Foster, who is another running back competing for that backup job by David Johnson. Uh, towards a c L last news carter off last night too. Now it's official that they towards a CML. So Chase Evans really locked in as that handcoff to David Johnson, and if David Johnson does have another injury, you're you're basically getting potentially an RB two right there in Chase Edmonds. Yeah, and I think that was the case all along. I

think they like Chase Edmonds a lot. I think he's very dynamic in what he can do, both on the ground and as a receiver. You know, coming out of Fordham, Emory Hunt loved this guy, talked him up, and the player Emery Hunt talked up last year, Terre Cohen, came out of nowhere and started performing for the Bears as well. So you trust the scouting of Emery Hunt of course. Um, and everything that they've said about Chase Edmonds is that

they love him. And you know, we're starting to see these handcuffs actually go up the draft board a little bit more based on what they're doing in preseason. John Kelly had a big preseason games, so I was really fresh, went off the board really really Connor. I was really frustrated about John Kelly. UM, I didn't get Connor either, And I was right in Courtly. We had actually I have a partner. I was talking to him about Kelly and we were taking Kelly with our next pick. And

he went right in the middle of the round. The same thing with James Connor, because it kind of set it off because someone took John Kelly and then it was Mike Blue and Dane sharing a team and it's my own fault, like I'm not blaming them a bit like I'm blaming myself. Um he went in the fourteenth round. I think I told to take Theo Riddic. I just wanted a little bit more um PPR running back rather than just take a handcuff. So I took Riddick and I think it was like the thirteen and then coming

back in the fourteen. James Connor didn't make it to me. And anytime you're left bell owner, you need to have the Steelers backup running. That's crazy because at that spot you pay right before me. In that fourteenth round, I thought, for sure you wind up taking James Evans because you're a guy, and you didn't. And I was surprised by that one. I don't remember who we ended up taking in the fourteen round of that draft, obviously, I mean just so many there's just a lot of draft. But yeah, no,

I like I like taking all three. I think it makes sense, especially if you do own their counterparts. But even if you don't, just late and draft if you want to take a shot on someone. If anything happens to these players David Johnson with Chase Edmonds, Lead Bell with James Conner, if anything happens to their the person above them on the depth chart, they're gonna have serious, serious roles here. Yeah, right before me us took a

Buck Allen. You took buck Allen over Jase Evans. I think again, what we were thinking is just getting PPR depth. Would you have taken your boy des Bryant that run, because that's another conversation we need to have. Oh God, Greggy, come on, don't kill me. I'm not killing you. We had. We had a bit of a conversation, a a fight, you could call it disagreement because in our gs T draft, the expert draft over the weekend, we got to I want to be I don't know we got it was

the fourteen round. I feel a little bit better about it right now. We got to the fourteenth round and I think I again it was was pushing for these Jaguars wide receivers and again there's not much on the board here, and the next wide receiver off the board was Ryan grant Um. Albert Wilson like, Kim, Greg, push your Frank Gore Richardson, he's still on the board. Up

his point, I push your Frank Gore at this point. Yeah, we got Frank Gore two rounds later, we did, but we wound up taking Dez Bryant the middle of the fourteenth round. I could not understand it because Frank was just like so he pushed it really hard. I'm like, this guy has had one visit since he was released, and it wasn't He wasn't signed. Why are we wasting a draft pick on him? Which that's Briant, like, that's

not wasting a draft pick. It's the fourteenth round. Greg, this is a guy that was going in the second round of drafts last year, and I know he does He's not on a team yet, he hasn't signed. But if he doesn't end up somewhere, even if it's once a season starts, once an injury takes place, what does it matter. It was a fourteenth round and I named the wide receivers that were available. There wasn't much left anyway,

and we got him as our wide receiver six. So I think at that point, whatever, you take a shot. We were asked by Christopher Carrow, the commissioner and owner of the g ST, how soon will drop him? I said before week one? He in for me. There were no waivers before week one, so I responded it right immediately following week one, which Frank had never bottled him. I don't I still have one eight four four eight four three seven nine. Let me go to you. I

want to go to Billy in California. It's up, Billy. Do we have Billy? Hey? Bill? What's up? Man? Hey? Um? Last night we did the draft and I kind of wanted to call you. I went a couple of Bears players and I just kind of listening to you guys. I got Alan Row it's in it like pick seventy. Um. I don't know why nobody picked him. I ended up with Chris Howard. Um, forgive me Chris Howard. Let me

go back. Yeah. I ended up getting Jordan Howard on the third because I was picked three so David Johnson, UM and Gosh Davante Adams and then ended up getting Jordan Howard as the RB two. UM. I didn't get Tarik Cohen, so I don't have it. I'm a full point ppr UM twelve team and two running back to

wide receiver. Is there any kind of depth in the path catching back because I don't, I mean, besides shame I ended up getting Alex Collins or yeah from Baltimore and then Jones the second from Tampa Bay I got later on because nobody grabbed him. In your opinion, are these Chicago guys trustworthy and and should I try and you know, formulate something from more of a pass catching back on the back end of my roster, I think

you're absolutely fine. Man like Jordan Howard, even if he catches thirties thirty five balls this year, the fact that you have David Johnson, who should, if he's healthy, catch sixty seventy plus, I think that kind of mitigates the fact that Jordan Howard isn't going to catch all that

many passes. But regardless, what Howard is gonna do on the ground as a rusher and in terms of scoring touchdowns, it's kind of similar to the reason we love Ezekiel Elliott is he's still going to produce as a rusher and scoring touchdowns. So I think I'll kind of make up for the fact that he's not catching many passes and he's still got Alex Collins, uh and Ronald Jones as well. Do you worry about those guys catching the ball? But again, as your RB three, RB four, I'm perfectly

found that. I think you did a good job. Eight four four, eight four three six eight seven nine. Continue on the phones and fantasy Smitty out in Rochester. What's up man? He follows, congratulations, thank you on the engagement. Um, I crushed it at a draft league. I almost felt guilty listening to people draft because they were so far away from what they should have been doing. But my question is, at what point how many players would you

trade to get a top ten player? Because my bench has Rorice Freeman, Sammy Watkins, killy On Johnson, and my third running back is Lamar Willer after Chris McCaffrey, Levan Bell, and AJ Green's my number one wide receiver, Marvin Jones number two. How many of those guys would you package to get one of the top ten to solidify maybe that second wide receiver spot or the flax. I think this is a good question because I do agree. I love AJ Green, I love the running back depth that

you ended up with even your starting running backs. They're all phenomenal, but ultimately you want to be stronger than Marvin Jones. I think as your wide receiver too. I don't think it's terrible by any means, but if you had to give up like a Sammy Watkins and a Royce Freeman to get I'm just throwing your name out there, Davante Adams or a Stefon Diggs, one of those second round wide receivers. Um. I think because you have the depth,

you can pull something like that off. But you're prob we're going to have to pair one of your wide receivers with one of these depth running backs you have, whether it's carry On, whether it's Royce Freeman. Obviously you would want to start lower Harry Watkins and carry On out there and just kind of floated out see what kind of wide receiver you can get in return. But then if you have to up the anti, maybe you pair um, Sammy Watkins with a Royce Freeman to try

and get one of those second round wide receivers. Greig, we'll continue taking your calls as we sign off on a video for today. Remember you can listen to a podcast and if you hear the full program on demand at any time. Sign up on iTunes, SoundCloud where every Dollar Podcast give us five stars, do a comment and we we strongly, strongly appreciate it. Of course, you can also listen to us live on the Fantasy Sports where

you never appreciate you The Fantasy Football Frenzy comes your way. Next, we continue on the phones right now and we hit up Michael in Texas. What's up, Michael, how's it? Uh? Two quick questions. One in regards to running back one of the best of defense. So with running back, uh, I see how I drafted Alexhns in the third round. But I have this if he's feeling about him being an at times with Kenneth Dixon, just just asking which

I'll think about that. And then my defensive question is in regards to Week one, I didn't drop the defense or I need to stream. So it's between the Titans defense against the Dolphins, Atlantics defense against the Eagles. The Eagles look terrible this preseason, and the Cardinals defense against uh, the Redskins. So that's my question. I'll take the defensive side of it. We're just talking about defense that impressidents

and it's the Atlanta Arizona Cardinals. Excuse me. They've just been ferocious all preseason, um with sacks, with turnovers, and although it's not all the first team, of course, it just shows you the style of play. Give me the Cardinals against Washington, even though Titans are a better matchup with Miami, the ferociousness of Arizona will get you more points doing the other things. I'll take. The Arizona defense

is other question, Frank. First of all, I agree with you, and I think there's a chance you pick up the Arizona Cardinals and they perform a Week one and not only that they could there's a chance they could be an elite defense. This here at top five style defense,

so I would pick up them as well. As for Alex Collins, I understand why some people might be a little hesitant about what we've seen from him in the preseason, and coupled with the fact that Kenneth Dixon has looked so good um and Buck buck Allen has looked good as well. But I think it's even more so telling that the Ravens to me, are treating him like their work horse starting running back because they're not using him

in the preseason. I think the fact that they're protecting him, Like you see these teams, Todd Gurley has him be playing Ezekiel Elliott hasn't been playing. Why aren't the Ravens playing Alex Collins? To me, it's because he is their work horse running back. And if I'm wrong, look, I will be eating my words because I have been pumping Alex Collins up into the third round. Greg, I wouldn't be surprised if the reason Alex Collins is going in the third round of draft right now, it's solely because

of me. So you are you saying Alex Collins is You're blakes now? Alex Collins is my blakes now. Although look, I don't know that we'll ever get a better call than the one Michael flight Be we've ever had on the BFFs. We because we we all made that call, Greg, because we are a collective unit. Of course, you did right with that. We're also one quarter of one half of the tax team champions. That's right next, Yeah, yeah, I mean we were there cheering on e Y and

we went cheer. We were there cheering. We were there because we went we were one of the team. We were waiting to get tagged in. Never tagged this, which is cool. It was me. You look really good out of a hot tag rig. Yeah. Yeah, Florida looked like the ring on fire. Sam uh, Let's continue on the junior in the Bronx's junior. Hey, how are you doing doing well? Man? What's going on? All right? I'm gonna twelve team half point PPR and everybody went running back heavy.

I wanted to grab one of those work coorse running backs, but I ended up with Beckham sitting at twelve, Hopkins a third team, and then see Y Hilton in the third round. All these guys was gone, and my running backs is Royce Freeman, Jamal Williams. I have Sony Michelle and Rashad Penny. I got only Roska flour running backs. Um can I survive the storm? And that's my question?

I think it's easier to survive with Royce Freeman Jamal Williams when you have these elite level talent wide receivers to start your draft, I mean to get t Y Hilton at the end of the third round, because obviously you started O b J and Hopkins at twelve thirteen. I think that's a good job man. Like again, Like we said, there comes a point in every draft where if the value is too good, you just can't pass up on it. So look, you might have to make a trade at some point. I don't know if your

league allows trading. We drafted a few leagues this weekend that we don't have trading. But if someone gets hurt at the wide receiver position and you have these elite level guys, there's a chance that someone will come knocking for your t Y Hilton and then maybe you turn that into a top twelve running back. I think you can survive when you have that talented of a wide receiver group because they can honestly just carry your team

and there you go. There you have it. The latest and the greatest from all the expert leads that we participated in over the weekend. Our home leagues too, because I think the good balance is important. Cut the next it's a fantasy football of friends, even Frank staffle My name is Grex Sulsman. Thank you so much for watching and listen. The Fantasy bdfs will do it all again tomorrow. We ho