Buy/Sell, The Leftovers, Injury Updates

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What's happening, Grady? Is a lot happening? Obviously, You've got Thursday Night Football Tonight, the Revenge Games all around case Keenom Kirk, Cousins, Adrian Peterson. What more could you ask for? Actually, there's too much going on right now. If if we're you know, for talking amongst each other. Here, basketball, World Series, football, there's a lot going on, hockey for e y, There's a lot going on right now. It's a very busy time to be alive. Yeah, I mean there's also other

things I'll TV to watch. I don't know what you're talking about. I watched El Camino last night. Oh, well that's you know you watched that. Yes, it's true. I felt like, you know, it's on demand whenever you want to watch it. You don't felt like it was airy on TV. You had to watch it last night, Greg, watch whatever you want. I wanted to watch it last night. Well you chose the night with that. Maybe had the most going on ever. Well tonight from wrestling to basketball

to World Series on the DVR. Man, Like, I mean, you say the same thing about al Camino. Waiting two weeks to watch al Camino. What do you think? I enjoyed it? Um. I was happy to be back in the Breaking Bad universe. It was entirely unnecessary. It was an unnecessary movie. That's probably be a good way to put it. It's fine. Yeah, it was. It felt like fan service. It was cool, it was fun, it was awesome to see the guys. I wish wrestling gave me fans service. That's too much to ask for just making

a fan service. It's our buddy, Eric, what's top you why? That's what I'm knowing for fan service, guys. And uh yeah, a huge night of sports and I won't want to be watching any of it. Me and my wife are going to watch Jokers, so oh nice. Also a great movie. I saw that a couple of weeks ago. Gave gave a little recap of that myself. I thought it was awesome, but Walking Phoenix did a great job, So I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on it. You y, Yeah, yeah,

it's I love the Joker character. Uh. D C has obviously fallen behind Marvel in uh the printing money process. But uh, I heard that this movie is great. It's dark and different and that's what Batman should be. So I'm looking forward to it. I'd like to see the Joker. I still haven't gotten a chance. I see that. I'll probably wait until it comes out on UM on demand. LaserDisc. Yeah,

LaserDisc exactly. I was actually reading this morning that Vince Gilligan is gonna has the leaded scenes for the Blue Rays like the Blue Ray. What are we talking about here? So whatever, you're way to get deleted scenes on on demand now because if no one is buying anything else, you know what I mean? Do people watch deleted scenes? Do you not? Not? Really? I think it's cool to see, Like I guess they're probably uploaded on YouTube. I can watch them there, but I have to go out of

my way. I don't know, I really, Yeah, it's no interest of mine, to be honest. Yeah. So a couple of things I want to get to here on today's show where they get to the leftovers here in a little bit, we got Virginia Zaki is joining us with inside injuries. She makes her return. We'll hit on some of these players that, uh, we don't know their status for this week, so we'll hit on those guys. Will also preview Thursday night football tonight between the Washington football

team and the Minnesota Vikings. Before we begin, let's get to some housekeeping notes, gentlemen. The first of which, or the first two of which I should say, involves the New England Patriots. The first Josh Gordon placed on IR yesterday, a day after this team acquired Mohammed Sanu report goes his k need's gonna be healthy enough to go in a week or two and at that point he will be released from the i R. I mean a free agent. There certainly seems to be more to the story here.

Are you surprised? E y Josh Gordon no longer remember on New England? Um, after the Snow thing, I figured there was something up. I don't feel like Snow as a player that they needed if Gordon was there. Um, so I feel like that that was definitely a rack reaction, reactionary move by the Patriots. Um, I mean to me, I mean Snow. To me, it's more of a wide receiver that the Patriots will use that than Gordon and gordon skill set. So he was not the same guy that we saw a couple of years ago. It was

pretty obvious. Um, just basically a deep ball guy wasn't really used much. Now he's hurt and and look like he's done for the season, So we'll see. I think Gabe phrases correct. Leag greg Win asked about Josh Gordon. He said, you know, the Patriots want reliability and they want availability, and Mohammed Sanu has been very reliable for the Atlanta Falcons. Seems like Philip Dorset has a good rapport with Tom Brady as well. We know Julian Edelman

that goes without saying. So they have their three wide receiver sets and nikkil Harry expected to return soon. Looks like they have something in Jacoby Myers. I think that they kind of like that nucleus that they have now. Uh, Josh Gordon was really a luxury, I don't. I don't think that they really needed him. So this doesn't surprise me. And I'm not even gonna ask you, because I know you were saying to drop Josh Gordon even before this. But I think in deeper leagues I am kind of

interested to see, you know, where he latches on. You know, so in those fourteen team leagues or deeper or you know, twelve team leagues like GST where we have eight or nine bench spots something like that, where you know, the the waiver wire targets left right now are not great, there's really not much upside. I think I just kind of hold on to Josh Gordon in those deeper leagues and see where he winds up. Maybe he winds up on a team that really needs wide receiver help New

Orleans Saints something like that. The thing is, the Patriots are a team that need wide receiver help. They traded a second round pick from Mohamed Sanu and then decided to ultimately cut Josh Gordon. The last time they kind of did this reminds me of with Randy Moss, right Like they went up training Randy Moss. That's Titans, and we're like, what the hell is But like we certainly seriously said, I remember, yeah, I remember Moss. I'm like,

all right, well, great changes scenery. That Patriots aren't utilizing him, maybe he'll be great with the Titans. And he was awful with with Tennessee, there was no use of him at all. And I think we're gonna see the same with Josh Gordon. Wherever he goes will be if he was cut, it'll be a hot waiver wire pick up. You have people like yourself saying, hey, let's hold on,

let's see where he goes. And I understand that trepidation, but like to me, some of these guys we were talking about on the waiver wire earlier this week, even a guy like Alex Erickson who have no interest in job Johns Gordon for Alex Rickson. Yeah, I'm not saying Josh Gordon is a must own player by any means. It's really just like a case by case, deeper league kind of play here where you just kind of hold

on and see maybe he latches on. Look if he ends up with New Orleans, right like, I think that'd make a lot of sense with Drew Brees might have some some potential there. But ultimately, yeah, it's not a must hold by any means. Only deeply. When we come back we hit on the leftover some buy or sell And another note on the New England Patriots and the idiot is Jarvis Lantry. I want to light the lamp on Draft Kings and fan duel this NHL DFS season. Then joined Daily Rodo dot com and learned from the

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the New England Patriots. You don't give them bulletin board material, like saying I guarantee we're going to beat them this week, Jarvis. They're they're undefeated. There's seven and O. Yeah, we're gonna beat them. And I get it. You want to have an internal confidence. But that one doesn't make sense. Rank Yeah, I don't get that one either. This game opened up with New England lane ten and a half points. It's

up to thirteen. So we know public betters are usually on the Patriots, but it seems like a lot of people are on the Patriots this week with the number climbing that high. Um, I don't know, you got your work cut out for your Jervis Landry. You're going up against one of the best secondaries in the league, so it's put up for shut up, let's see what happens.

But ultimately, the way that that offensive line has played for Cleveland, I expect Baker Mayfield to be under a lot of pressure, probably much like what we just saw on Monday night. Baker Mayfield might be seeing some ghosts himself. Because you know the Patriots are gonna be bringing house. They're gonna bring pressure and see if Baker Mayfield can uh can really react to that. And ultimately I think the answer will be no. Greg. So I don't really

know what Jarvis Landry is getting at here. Not the right decision by Jarvis Landry. One final note before we get to the leftovers. Uh. Dan Felman tweeted this out, Frank, I think you gotta kick out of it. Uh. Seven ft five Taco Fall, He's now in the concussion protocol in the G League. As he hit his head on a low ceiling. I was waiting for that other shooting drop because I knew something was gonna happen. He had to hit his head on something. Uh. That that's that's

pretty good. Well. Shout out to Taco Fall. I hope you are right. Get well suoned, buddy, and and watch where you're walking. Last basketball note as well, uh, presidential candy Andrew Yang has a whole, like long opinion on the Knicks. That's awesome. Is he a Knicks fan or Nicks hater? Now he's a Knicks fan. He just doesn't

understand what they're doing. He's like they have all this time, these reclamation projects like Trey Burke and like, and they just let them go and sign mide him deals elsewhere. And then you bring in all these power forwards and instead of just letting players develop, you just giving to all these stupid veterans. I was like, he's like, you go out. It's like Kevin dur Aunt and missed out on him. They just have he goes. I have no belief in their process to develop players like you got

my vote, man Gregg. I don't care about politics whatsoever. You know that everybody on this show knows that. Please send me that I'd like to read. We'll let you know. I'll show it to you. You're gonna read it when we get a commercial, because right now it's time for the Leftovers. Didn't get your fill from the waiver wire now more? The BFFs has your leftovers. Watch this, never mind,

give me a whole lot of it. The leftover time here on a Thursday edition of the bf F. And let's begin tonight with a matchup the Minnesota Vikings and the Washington football team. You got Adam Fling already ruled out, So Frank who is BC Johnson b C Johnson is the next wide receiver up for the Minnesota Vikings. He played in place of Adam DeLand last week. He had eight targets, four receptions for forty yards in a touchdown. And the way to attack this Washington defense, well everywhere

is the secondary specifically. I think Stefon Digg has a big game tonight, but I think that if you are in a pinch, I think b C. Johnson is out there in two wide receiver sets. They've probably run a lot of two tight ends as well, but B C. Johnson is gonna be on the field a lot. We saw the targets last week. I think it's a good matchup against Washington. If you are desperate for a wide receiver, I don't think it's a bad play. E Y, what

does that desperation represent? Right, at what point are you starting this guy tonight against Washington? I feel like you'd have to be pretty pretty desperate. But I mean, these are are the weeks that we're all desperate, Like, uh, you know, I was texting with you guys earlier and it's, uh, I gotta start one of those running backs. And I mean this is a kind of the same situation. So if you're desperate. I mean, I feel like there are worse things that you could do well. I agree, And

if you desperate a tight end. I've said this a lot that I Smith Jr. And Kylie Rudolph on the radar tonight against Washington without Adams even in the line up, I have a feeling one of these guys that go off. Problem is there's two of them, which makes it all that much harder. But at this moment, I think if you're desperate enough, you can start one of these tight ends both as well leftovers here on this waiver Wire week, continuing down the leftover list. I imagined him before, and

it's Alex Erickson for Cincinnati. I dropped Josh Gordon for him. Is that a move that you'd endorse? Rank? Yeah, I'm alright with that. You know, if you need help right away as well, we don't understand. We don't know where Josh Gordon's gonna land ultimately. And Alex Rikson coming off a game where he had fourteen targets now going up against the Los Angeles Rams. Yes, they have Jalen Ramsey.

I don't think Alex Erickson is gonna be the one that gets to Jalen Ramsey treatment is probably more likely that Audentate ends up seeing Jalen Ramsey. So they have Tyler Boyd in the slot, and then they'll have Alex Erickson roaming the field as well. But based on his snap percentage last week, which was a season high, had career highs across the board fourteen targets over a hundred receiving yards. They are I think thirteen point underdogs right now.

They're gonna be playing from behind. I do have some slight interest in Alex Erickson, and it looks like a J. Green surprise surprise will not play again this week. I have no idea what the Bengals are doing. You should be trading a J. Green for anything that you can get right now. They also don't know what they're doing, so we'll come to the Cincinnati man. It must be something about you know, orange on your Jersey's right. The Cincinnati Bengals and New York Knicks and New York Mets

have no idea what they're doing. Cleveland Browns as well, nobody has a clue. Greg Let's get rid of the orange. As much as I love orange my favorite color, by the way, really you don't you don't hear orange of the favorite color often, So that'll be That'll be my conversation starter for Judy at her wedding. Greg, sure, what's your birthday? Yeah, at my birthday, which she will be attending,

I guess exactly. Okay. Also out there on the wave while let me stick to the tight end spot, well, Janice Smith talks about a lot e Y and Cameron Braid, who I think it's worth bringing up. So just recently, like a half hour ago, in my league, someone picks up Cameron Braid, actually my opponent picks up Cameron Braid with the thought that, hey, o J. Howard may not play, let me get Cameron Braid in there, because whenever O J. Howard doesn't play, great kind of a sense to a

tight end one. The problem is O J. Howard this year has not been a tight end one because as I tried to tell you, Bruce arians doesn't care about the tight end. Will that change if Howard's out and Braid is in? I mean, Brady has you know, been a decent spot start this this year? And I mean I feel like history has shown us that that's that's

the tight end that jameis Winston chooses. Also, O J. Howard is a better blocker than Cameron Braid, So when they're both on the field, O J. Howard's going to block and Cameron Brady is technically just a wide receiver, a large bodied wide receiver. So I don't know. I mean, I don't have O J. Howard anywhere. I was telling people I think it was a mistake. Arians has never utilized the tight end. I don't care how good of an athlete he is. If the coach doesn't scheme to

use that position, then there's no sense of owning him. Uh, Cameron Bait, I mean, you know you could stream him this week. I feel like the Tennessee defense, like I get the flags flying behind me here, but the tender if he's defense is really good, Jameis Winston is going to be under pressure, um and when he's under pressure, he's rotten. So I would I would avoid Braid this this week if I could. I know there's the leftover portion, but we'll rename it the do over portion, Frank, just

for for this particular player, and that's Cameron Bright. You're all about O J. Howard. You thought that talent would overcome scheme. Do you feel the same way that Cameron. Right, I like Cameron Braid this week, especially if O. J. Howard isner, No, you're not doing do over. You're just gonna screw this up again. I'm gonna do I I am gonna do this over again, Greggy. And uh, look,

Cameron Braid has scored touchdowns recently as well. I mean, he's not largely involved in the game, but they are passing the ball a ton, mostly because you know, their defense is kind of reverted back to where it's been. They have been suffering. But you know, Cameron Braid is involved in the game plan. And if O J. Howard is not there, you know OJA Howard has seen his two to four targets per game. If those start to go, Cameron braids away and we're getting you know, six to

seven targets against the Tennessee Titans. E Y. You're right, there are a good defense, but one area that they struggle is against tight ends. They're allowing the night most fantasy points to opposing tight ends this year. I think you know, if O. J. Howard is out, Cameron Braid is definitely in play, greg He will be a top twelve tight end for me this week. If o J. Howard is out and E Y, I just kind of

wanted to piggyback off something that you said. And I think it's a fallacy in coaching right now in the NFL, and we've said this for years now. You are right. I mean, there are coaches that are stubborn that are going to run their offensive system and their scheme no matter what players they have. But you'll notice that the best offensive minds in the NFL fit their scheme to the players that they have. And I think that's something that Bruce Arians and the Tampa Bay Bucks have done

wrong this year. Obviously, I was in on o J. Howard and I will admit that I was wrong. He has been one of the biggest busts and fantasy football so far this season. But I think when you invest as much as they did in O J. Howard, even though Bruce Arians was not involved whatsoever in the drafting of him, you should find ways to get a player like that involved us. I think that that is a fallacy amongst coaches in the NFL, but a last they

are coaches for a reason. I am not, but I do think that you know, that is something that is a downfall of coaches in the NFL. Greg, Absolutely, It's not just the NFL there, it's downfall of coaches and managers in every sport. How often do we say it, Hey, this player in baseball is hot, Why isn't he getting more playing time? To you know, this players, it doesn't work. Yeah, this player is performing well in basketball. Why isn't he part of the rotation? Why doesn't he get more minutes?

I mean we say this over and over. You know, sometimes there are things behind the scenes that we don't know about. You know, there's a lot of politics involved. Oh you know, well, this player was drafted high, this player is making this much money. They have to play, So there are things that we don't know about. But un it's unfortunate. Alright, we'll take a break. Joins us. Next, I want to light the lamp on Draft Kings and

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promo code Action for a ten percent discount. I've fallen and I can get off Inside Injuries with Virginia Zakas. But a scratch, a scratch, the arms off Inside Injuries Update. It's Virginia Zakis, Frank Stamp, Will e Y and myself or here as well. Virginia, welcome back at the program. Think you. It's good to be that you have an intro for you now. So it's brand new. I like it all right, cool, So let's get right into it

here and let's break it down. Last week for the New Orlean Stays, both of Alvin Kamara and Jared Cook missed time, did not play last week. They have their by next week. Will they be out there this Sunday? So Alvin Kamara did not practice yesterday, which is not a good way to start off the week. Um, he was originally listed with ankle and knee injuries. UM, I've always been a little more concerned about his ankle than his knee, and now he's just listened with that ankle injury.

So that's what we really need to watch here. UM, I do believe it was a mild m c L sprain for him, but that should be healed up within two weeks. So UM, I think his ankle is what might prevent him from playing this weekend. UM. It sounds like a mild high ankle sprain. But even if that's the case, high ankle sprains are very very difficult to

fully recover from in just two weeks. UM, if it truly is very mild, we're giving him a three week optimal recovery time, which means he should sit through the bye week. UM. It just doesn't seem like it's worth risking it in this situation. So it seems a little more doubtful than questionable. UM. Jared Cook also dealing with an ankle injury, and we don't know very much about his injury. They really just said that it's to his ankle,

but that's kind of it. UM. So he didn't practice yesterday, obviously, not a good way to start off the week. UM, it is not looking like he's gonna suit up. UM. We don't know which ankle is hurt. But he also missed six games in two dozen sixteen with the high ankle sprain, and we know that once players suffer pretty serious ankle injuries like he has, those ligaments get stretched out,

leaving them more more susceptible to future ankle injuries. So pretty concerned about him this week, but after the bye, we think he'll be good to go. As an amateur basketball player, Greg who has messed up my my ankles multiple times, I can, I can attest to that. Yes, I wear I wear races on both of my anks, so that is definitely true. We are speaking with Virginia

zakas of inside injuries. Pay attention to Jared Cook because they're going up against the Cardinals and if he can't go, then Josh Hill makes for a great play this week at the tight end position. Virginia, I want to ask you about Devontae Adams and he's not practicing again today but on the field stretching for whatever that means. Please remind us what Inside Injuries had as the timetable for Davanta Adams when you know when should he return and

you know, are we expecting him back this week? Yeah, So from the beginning we've had him listed with a grade to turf toe injury. Um. Turf toe is just another way of saying a sprain to the main joint in the big toe. UM, there's lots of different severities of it. His sounds somewhat serious, but not serious enough that there's you know, a tear in there that would require surgery. UM. So because it's a grade to injury, this is going to come with a five week optimal

recovery time for him. UM. He was hasn't played since Week four. That means what you think he'll be healthy to return around week nine? UM, back to back d nps. When a players already missed a month, that means he should not play. UM. They're saying he could be a game time decision. But you know, if he's not ready to go and at least get in a limited practice by winds are Thursday, that means he's not gonna be ready to go this weekend. So I really don't think

you should play. He's still a high injury risk m and his health performance factors below average. If he were to play, that toe would still affect him accelerating, pushing off, cutting, running routes. Pretty much every important part of his game would be affected. At this point, Greg, we've already missed so much time with Davantae Adams. They might as well just hold them out until he's completely healthy. Yeah, absolutely, what is there buying, Frank, I don't have it right

in front of me. But according to Inside Injuries, they said week nine should be a good timetable to him. But I will I'll pull up I'll pull up the by. We can let you know, even two seconds. I can also get it up here unless you're doing it first. I am here to win this battle. That would be by week eleven. I don't think they're going to hold them out all the way through that. They might get him back by week nine, week ten, get his legs underneath him a little bit before hitting that by, and

then he'll have another week to rest. Then. I don't just think that they hold them out all the way through week eleven and then return a week twelve. If they were going to do that, you should just put him on I R. What's all Virginia Zakis here in Virginia. Fantasy owners were stunned last Sunday where David Johnson was Uh, he was starting until he he wasn't starting anymore, and it was a bit of a disaster. Now the Cardinals go out and signed to running backs, how serious is injured? DJ? Yeah,

I think the team was very misleading over the weekend. Um, you know, it seemed like he was gonna be good to go. He was in there on that first series, had to carry, and then he didn't play again. UM. I believe that they didn't think he looked right and he was maybe in a lot of pain. Um tweaked that ankle again on on one of those first few plays and then didn't return to the game. So if that's the case, UM, you know, pretty concerning to re

aggravate an injury like that. UM, he didn't practice yesterday, obviously not a good sign. UM. We're showing that he has a healthy to return date around week nine, although depending on how bad but he reinjured his ankle last week, that could be pushed back even further if we learn more this week. But no surprise, he's a high injury risk. His back is also a little bit of a concern along with that ankle. UM, and I think it's going to be at least another week before we see him

out there. I agree with Virginia based on seeing them signed two running backs. I would be very surprised if David Johnson suits up for this week Virginia. We saw yesterday that Patrick Mahomes got in a limited practice. They're saying he's going to do the same thing again today.

I mean, this is pretty crazy, no, considering he just suffered that knee injury last week, and all the timetables that we heard were, you know, maybe two weeks if we're optimistic, but probably looking at anywhere from two to four weeks. What's going on with Patrick Mahomes And are they crazy for letting in practice right now? Yeah? This really does not seem smart to me. UM. You know, he had that m R I. They said he avoided you know, any serious damage UM, which is great, but

it still indicates that there's some damage to the knee. UM. When the nick dislocates, there's a lot of things that can happen, but based on what we know so far, there's likely a little bit of cartilage damage UM and possibly the mpfl UM, the medial patelo femoral ligment could have gotten stretched out. UM. I don't think there's a major tear in there because that would require surgery, but this takes time to heal. UM. There's no way he should be back out there in just one week, even

if it's just a limited practice. UM. We saw one video of him kind of moving around in the field and he just did not look comfortable. So, you know, the Chiefs, they're in a position where they can afford to have him sit for a few games. UM, and that's really what they should do if they want him healthy late in the season. If he tries to play this week or next, UM, he's going to get a

very very high risk of re injury. Not only re injuring his knee, but you know, he clearly doesn't look comfortable moving around and that's putting the rest of his body at risk. So we're showing a actually a six week optimal recovery time right now. Definitely don't think he's gonna miss that much time, but he's going to be a high injury risk through the month of November. I should not return this week. We're next week. We'll see how quickly he ultimately makes it back. Uh, the Chiefs

by still not for a few more weeks. Now we twelve by for the Kansas City Chiefs. Talking Virginia, zis here all of inside injuries in Virginia. Let me go to the NFC North where tonight Adam Feeland has been ruled out UM and carry On Johnson has been placed on I R. What can you tell us about these two NFC North players. Yeah, I think Feeland may have had a shot to play if they were playing on Sunday, but the quick turnaround in just four days wasn't realistic

for him. Um m R I showed a mild hamstring strain just comes with a two week optimal recovery time. UM. He probably won't get back in that low injury risk category for at least another three to four weeks, but I think there's a very good chance he plays week nine UM, and that's what are showing is healthy to return date is UM. Now for carry On Johnson, they placed him on I R with a knee injury and

he's undergoing surgery. They haven't said exactly what's going on here, but based on the timeline and the fact that they think he could return later in the season, this is likely a nice scope. UM. I don't think there's ligament damage, but it could be to you know, clean out some cartilage or to repair some moniscus damage. So if that's the case, it is realistic for him to turn return in the last few weeks of the season. UM, but if it's anything more serious than we uh, we shouldn't

see him again this year. Virginia, I want to ask you about Matt Ryan. This obviously has huge implications on the entire Atlanta Falcons offense, most notably Julio Jones, Austin Hooper, Calvin Ridley, Devonte Freeman. You know, if Matt schob is the starting quarterback for the team, we obviously have to downgrade all of those weapons. Heading into Week eight, Matt Ryan did not practice again today. He's dealing with an ankle injury. What do you guys have on Matt Ryan.

Do you expect him to play this week? If not, what is his optimal recovery time? So we're showing that he should wait around two weeks to return. Um, it is possible for a quarterback like Ryan to play through a high ankle sprain much quicker than you know, a running back or a wide receiver might. Patrick Mahomes, you know, his has suffered a high ankle sprain a few times

this season and it is pretty quickly returned. So I do think it's possible that he plays, but it's very easy to aggravate and it can be made worse very easily. So right now it's you know, a milder high ankle sprain. But if he were to re aggravate it, um land awkwardly on it, get hit in a weird way, he could suffer ligament damage that could end his season. So given where the Falcons are right now, I don't think they're going to take a risk with him if he's

not ready. Um he is someone that can he doesn't need to practice this week in order to suit up on Sunday, But I just I don't see them running him back out there this week. Um it just it just isn't worth it. And he's um of course, a high injury risk right now, and we'll be at least for the next two weeks. One of the top waiver wire adds this past week Virginia was and he stills

and that was because of will Fuller's injury. He gets injured every year, and this time it was a hamstring that knocked him out in the first quarter this past Sunday. How quickly can will Fuller get back on the field of for Houston. I think we're looking at a very lengthy absence for Fuller. UM. Remember he suffered a torn right a c L last year, and it's pretty common, unfortunately for players coming back from an A c L injury to suffer hamstring injuries. UM. Happened to Dealvin Cook

last year, it happened to Darius Guys over the summer. Um, there's tons of examples of it happening. And on top of that, Fuller has a very concerning history of hamstring injuries. UM, he also has other You know, he's had a clavical fracture, rib fracture surgery on his other knee. UM. He missed almost the entire preseason last year with a hamstring injury and had multiple strings of two thousand sixteen. Um, we're showing a minimum five week optimal recovery time for him,

so we should not return before week twelve. Virginia, real quick, please tell me that Chris Herndon is going to play this week for my New York Jets. I think he's got a pretty good shot. We have a healthier return date around week eight, so I think he can do it. I assume he won't, and then the offense will be quote unstoppable. As Sam Donald said, Greg he sees ghosts. We all do Halloween season. Come on right, she's Virginia Zaga has We appreciate the time, Virginia. We'll see you

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Wednesday and has not practiced Thursday. We'll see about tomorrow, but this is beginning to get a little bit if he i'd say about Josh Jacob's availability for this week. I know you've talked a lot, Frank, and he thought he was a Bilow candidate. The schedule really eases up for the Raiders against the the rush defenses that they

will face. Uh, it's Houston here this week. If Josh Jacobs, for whatever reason, he isn't able to go and he doesn't practice tomorrow, Um, the two backups for Oakland or DeAndre Washington and Jalen Richard, which one would you pick up and would you put him in your line up? I would be more apt to pick up DeAndre Washington. He has twenty nine carries on the season, which is

second most on the Oakland Raiders. So I think if anything were the where to happen to Josh Jacobs, he is the next man up, the one that they would slot in there, uh and see most of the early down work and see the goal line work once they get inside the red zone as well, assuming that they get inside the red zone without Josh Jacobs, because he has been a huge part of their offense, but their offensive line Gregg has played really really well. Uh, specifically

when it comes to run blocking. The Oakland Raiders are fourth in run blocking fourth in adjusted line yards according to Football Outsiders. So I would have interest in DeAndre Washington as a flex running back if Josh Jacobs were not able to go this week. But as you alluded to, Greg, he did not practice last week as well and still ended up playing and ended up playing really really well

against Green Bays. So I'm not saying, you know, Josh Jacobs isn't gonna play yet, I'm not gonna react too far, but maybe if you own him, you might want to go out there, uh and grab a dion Drey Washington if he's available, Greg, Yeah, j Washington, any running back that's a starter. Werena go out and grab if we can. You want any interest from you for DeAndre Washington. I know you're in a spot we're considering starting Peyton Barbara

and Kenyan Drake and Miles stand. It's a spot where that's why we want to get Josh Jacobs didn't play. I would start DeAndre Washington over all those totally. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like every time whatever the starting back is down, that Richard and Washington just split and there's no way to know. I think it's gonna

depend on game flow. I would imagine that the Raiders will be behind and Richard will get more work, like maybe not first and a second down, but then we're throwing a bunch at the end of the game and he's going to be the past catcher. Um. So I don't know that that's tough for me to trust at all, because every time it comes down to those two, it's literally a dart throw, and I don't know if I'm willing to do that, But like you said, for me, I'm in a dart throw regardless, So that will be

something that I'll definitely consider. And I mean another guy that could be in that thing is is Wendell Smallwood is well sure, why not? Yeah, they're saying Adrian Peterson is questionable for tonight, but everything that I've read says that he's gonna play. You know, he wants to get back out there against Minnesota in the hashtag revenge game, Greg, revenge all around tonight. You can never have this much revenge in a single game, uh, that I've ever seen before.

But tonight we will have all the revenge. So pay attention to see if Adrian Peterson is good to go. But when the Smallwood the next man up, and it seems like Darius Guys is getting closer to returning as well. If you want to stash him, now's the time, absolutely, now easy, the time to stash. Went to stash. Excuse me, Darius Guys. Let's get into Thursday night football here between Washington and Minnesota. As you said, Frankie, it is the revenge game of all revenge games. Is both quarterbacks in

a revenge situation. In fact that you know the last two times these teams, the last time these two teams played, these same quarterbacks started just on the opposite teams. It was case Keenum going for Minnesota and Kirk Cousins going for Washington. It was a um, it was a magical season for Minnesota. Of course that you're a case Keen as the starter. Now these two teams will go at it again, one team going in one direction of the other team obviously going in the other. So tonight, what

are we expecting in this matchup? I don't think it's relatively close here, and I think that's reflected in the spread as well. This game opened up with Minnesota lane fourteen. It's up to sixteen and a half. Wouldn't surprise me if it gets up to seventeen before game time here, Greg, And you're right, it's two teams that are going in opposite directions. The Minnesota Vikings have won three games in a row, and in those three games, you know, since

Adam Feland called out Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins is the first quarterback in NFL history to throw for three hundred plus yards and post a quarterback rating of one and thirty five or higher in three consecutive games. So I'm not sure that he will have to throw as much tonight, but I can see him putting up you know, to

fifty to two seventy multiple touchdowns. You know, maybe if he really wants to lay it on Dan Snyder and Washington, he throws for a third touchdown, but the secondary for Washington is not good, and they're saying Josh Norman is questionable for tonight. Ultimately, I think that ends up helping the Minnesota Vikings. He is not the player that he wants was. I think Stefon Diggs is in a really

good spot to have him as a top twelve wide receiver. Again, if you're desperate, b C. Johnson is going to be filling in for four Adam Feeling. The tight ends are going to play as well. They each had six targets last week. Kyle Rudolph got into the end zone last week. I like the over for both Dalvin Cook and Alexander Madison tonight. The over under for Dalvin Cook's rushing yards ninety and a half. He has ran for over a hundred yards in five of seven games this year, so

I do like that number for him. And if you think it gets out of hand, Alexander Madison his prop his thirty six and a half greg and he has cleared that in four of seven games. And you know, if they're up two or three scores at the end of this one in the fourth quarter, then maybe we see more of Alexander Madison as well. On the other side, I don't really like case Keena much, you know, maybe

outside of a super flex where you're really desperate. I still do like Terry mcle or in though they're likely trailing points in this game, Greg, And last week we just saw Marvin Jones have a four touchdown performance against this Vikings defense. They have allowed eleven touchdowns to wide receivers. That is tied for most in the NFL. So, you know, Xavier roads, it used to be roads closed. It's not that case anymore. It's more like bumpy roads nowadays, country roads,

whatever you wanna call it. Greg. Terry McLaurin I think is a low end wide receiver two here tonight. I don't want to get involved with anybody else in Washington. I don't want to do the Adrian Peterson thing. I understand he has twenty carries and back to back games, but ultimately the only name that I'm looking at tonight on Washington side is Terry McLaurin. Yeah, I agree with you.

I'm not listen if Adrian Peterson doesn't play and you're the spot like Eric is, then maybe you start window smaller. But there Adrian Peterson is going to be active. We'll see how effective he ultimately is. From Minnesota's for Minnesota tonight. However, I think Stefon Dixon and play. I think, hey, Kyle Rudolph and IRV Smith are in play as well. Do you prefer I'm starting IRV Smith in and and if they're t league tonight? Really desperate, I had Delaney Walker

as my tight end. Did you choose I Smith over Kyli Rodoff? So it's funny you bring that up because I have I have will I hope you asked because I have a I have a co owner of this team, and he prefers if Smith to Kyrodolf. I probably would have went with Kyrodolph. He plays more snaps, he runs more routes. With this co owner is your funder. Co owner is the funder. So what he says goes, We're going with if Smith. So I wanted to start for

earlier in the week. You knew that. He talked me out of it, like you the numbers talking to me out of it because its Kyl rudof get the majority of snaps. Is Kyli roudof majority of the routes the touchdown last week and Kyroff hasn't done anything all year. Last week was the first touchdown he scored all seasons. So, um, it's not like the slam dunk play. But if you think that they're going to be passing the ball a little bit tonight there's no Adam feeling, then the tight

ends are likely involved. We'll see what happens, uh in this one over to you, e y, what do you think about these tight ends? Would just start anybody else from Washington other than Terry McLaurin. I mean, you don't even have Frank telling us about Paul Richards in this week, so that's a good week. What would you do in this matchup tonight? Yeah? For me, McLaren is the only guy that I would use for Washington. Um, I've got him on a few teams and I'm hoping that he

shows up big like he has been. I mean, I think that's been a massive surprise. A rookie wide receiver on on on a dismal offense with Case Keaton throwing the ball has been getting it done basically every week. So that's the guy I'll definitely start um and I mean it, look the reality has his Kirk comes does looked good the last couple of weeks, he looked really good.

So Stefon Diggs is a must start for me for sure. Uh. Dalvin Cook is an absolute beast um and and I would uh, I would be if you have Cook and Madison's available, which I'm sure he's not, but if he's available out there, hold onto that guy because Dalvin Cook, he's got a history of injuries and Madison could be a top ten running back if Cook goes down. Shout out to the close of Chris Venture coming up with the Dreaded Duo. We really like that nickname here for

both of these guys, Dalvin Cook and Alexander Madison. I think it's a good spot for both of these guys, Tonight, Craig. From a betting perspective, this game is tough, man, because the spread just keeps rising and rising and you don't really expect it to be close. But you know there are some holes right now in the Vikings secondary, so maybe you get a backdoor cover from Washington. It's just there's so many points. As Gabe likes to say, you're not gonna go You're not gonna get rich betting on

double digit favorites in the NFL. No, you're not. This year more However, this year, more often than not, there's double digit favorites have covered the spread, as we saw earlier in the year with New England with Dallas facing off against Miami. Um, I won't tell what was that. There's a fly around here. I was trying to I was trying to shoot him away. I was not telling you to stop talking, Greg, I was trying to shoot a fly away. He was going like this, he's just

shooting me. Get out of here, Greg, give us some hard hitting analysis. Well, I was gonna tell you that tonight. Week eight. I am still in my survivor pool, which is great. I'm going on STA tonight. I think that makes a lot of sense. You know, it's one of the biggest spreads, the biggest bread on the board right now. I like the Vikings defense tonight. We didn't talk about that, and defensive stream if they're available, I do like them a decent bit here against Washington. They should be able

to get some pressure on case Keen. I'm really glad you brought up defensive stream here because I wasn't suggest day we didn't really get a chance to. And that's the reallyand defense. So as I said, with the seventh ranked scorers in all of fantasy football this year, if you have the New England Patriots defense, would you treat them away right now? Anyway? I mean all depends on

what you're gonna get. You mean, I think there are leagues where you could say, like, look like this is you know, a top ten scoring player basically, I mean it's a bunch of players, but it's one single position, and there's people that would one. They don't want the headache of trying to find one every week. Uh that that person is me. But I'm not going to trade away anything important for New England or the defense. I

look at they've been great. But has there been a software schedule for any team in the NFL then the Patriots up to this point, and look, it's not gonna get super difficult going forward. Somehow they have like one of the easiest schedules. Uh, the rich get richer. Now they've got Mohammed Sanu and I can't wait for West Welker to throw a pass to him and then him throw one back to West Welker and then score a touchdown. So it's a I mean, it's infuriating. It was being

not a Patriots fan. They're just good. Every year you can bet against him. But I'm not trading anything significant. If someone wants to give them up for for a bench player or something like that, which is probably not going to happen, I would do it, but I'm not going to give up something it's significant for the for a defense. I do agree with e Y that I

would not be trying to acquire New England. But you like to reference the donators in your fantasy football league, and I think those are the guys that you kind of have to uh reach out to here when it comes to the New England Patriots defense. They're gonna see, oh my god, this team has so many fantasy points score. They're they're the eighth overall player right now in fantasy football. It's crazy. And I'd love to have this defense on my team. And I'm looking at Yahoo leagues right now.

Someone made a trade Greg, not in any leagues that I planned, just just there aide market where you can see trades that go down in all Yahoo leagues. The Patriots defense for Tyreek Hill. That happened in the league. I'm not saying that that's going to happen in your league, but I'm just saying there are donators in these leagues. Like e Y has referenced there, here's another trade for you, New England and Jarvis Landry for the Chicago Bears defense

and Odell Beckham. You know, people are crazy, man, They make crazy trades. And I'm saying if you can try and take advantage of those people right now, and you can get a player that you're going to start on your team every single week in RB two wide receiver two for the Patriots defense, then yes, do it. I mean, their schedule does get tougher in Lengland this week, Baltimore, their bye week is coming up, Philly is coming up, Dallas is coming up. I mean, they've already gone through

the easiest part of their schedule. It only gets tougher from here on out. They're probably still gonna be really good, admittedly, but it's been a really good schedule for him. We got a minute ago, so I w don't give an update from Pro Football Doc on Josh Jacobs. He says that, according to John Gurney, is a legitimate shoulder injury from football doc Dr David Chow believes that he probably has an a C joint sprain, which means limited He would

expect no practice or limited practice all week. By Sunday, he should be good to go for his normal amount of touches. He also gave us an update on James Conner, who said he's not finished last week's or game two weeks ago before the bye. He expects that he's deal with the quad contusion. He should be already all right and ready to go. From Monday night football music to my ears, great music to our ears because we own James Connor and he's going up against Miami. So you

want James Conner for that matchup. Absolutely special guest tomorrow on the program. It's e y hanging out with us on a Friday edition of the show. So Eric Young and Frank staffle, I'm Greg Saumur enjoyed Thursday Night football tonight. We'll do it all go tomorrow. We hope. I want to light the lamp on Draft Kings and FanDuel this

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What did happen? Here's what you missed on the b FPS. David Johnson hitting the I R. There is some Twitter speculation that that can happen. Really, yes, there is, because of the whole Zack Center Alfred Morris there. To me, it's like, all right, we're gonna sign both of these guys and let the better man win. That's kind of what I'm thinking it's going on. We shall see you. There might not be a better man between those two.

It might just both suck really bad. David Johnsons and we loved you yesterday you were saying you didn't really believe in Ty Johnson. Do you believe now? No, No, it hasn't changed. This is he's a fringe guy. Um and I do believe um that mckissic will be involved. I think it will be more of a fifty fifty kind of split, kind of what we've seen when when Johnson went out, Ty Johnson um doesn't like contact. Doesn't

strike me as a first and second down running back. UM, So I think they'll I think they'll split, and I think people that went all in on on him are going to be sadly, sadly he wondn't been nothing in the league we shared together. For the record, did you have a bit like that? I don't remember now I'm in too many would not be insignificant, I can, I can pull that up for us. But anyway, he keeps

saying a fifty fifties split between Thy Johnson. They just promoted Paul Perkins as well, so he might be in the mix, But you keep saying fifty fifty split. Last week, when Carrie on Johnson went down, Thy Johnson played sixty of the snaps. He had fourteen touches. Two of those came inside the ten yard line. J D. McKissick only had seven touches. So that strikes me more as a you know, right on the nose. Sixty five percent for

Thy Johnson, maybe thirty five percent for everybody else. So you know, if you can get fifteen touches around there from THI Johnson this week against the New York Giants, I think he's working a pretty penny. I mean maybe this week. I mean, you know, he's playing the Giants. Sorry, Greg, but yeah, it's uh. I'll believe it when I see it. I could be wrong, but I don't think I will be. You know what, there's a lot of people in the

same camp as e why Greg. There's a lot of people on Twitter, a lot of podcasts that I listened to saying this is gonna be a committee, don't get involved. It's gonna be THI Johnson, it's gonna be mckissi. They still Perkins Action, little Paul Perkins. They could trade for Kenyan Rake, which is the thing that I'm most worried about. It's not anybody else that's there right now. They could trade from Melvin Gordon. There's all these things up in

the air as of right now. The way that things sit, I think that Ti Johnson is going to see sixt sixty five percent of the snaps and around the same amount of the percentage wise of the work as well. So I think he's writ in the mix for around fifteen touches fifteen sixteen around there. He had four receptions last week Harry and Johnson wasn't being used in the past game, and and Thi Johnson last week in his first game really filling in for carry On was used

in the past game. So I might be in the minority here, Greg, I've had some really massive bids on thy Johnson. Last night, we had a forty two dollar bid in the pit league. Together we were outbid. He went for fifty two dollars in a one fab league. I don't think that my logic was far off. I think a lot of people are pretty much in agreement. Like, on the aggressive side, you could go as high as fifty percent of your budget. On the lower side, you know,

thirty percent. I think anywhere in there, and if you want to for even cheaper, you feel pretty good about that today