BFFs 7/23 Hour 1: Bengals Fantasy Preview, Browns Pass Catchers

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So today's all even though UIs in Nashville, where New York, it's an Ohio day on the program to day because we're gonna go over the Browns and the Bengals inside the n FC North as we continue our team by a team question is not really a breakdown, it's it's more questions and I'm excited to get tomorrow. He's the Steelers coming up tomorrow, and I'm not James Connor guy. You have the resident James Connor guy, you and Blake Billy.

It seems not the wrong with that. The guys the advocates of James Conner as we should as we should be. We'll talk more about that tomorrow's show. Well, I'm excited about it. I want to talk about Steelers and we'll talk about the brown where we're not talking about James Connors. A few moments ago we were we're also talking about Tyler Boyd. Down we were, and I'm excited to get into Tyler Boyd here e y Stocks because Frank and I disagreed a little bit here and I was trying

I was doing some research. I was trying to figure out almost like what I was doing with Kenny and Drake, like trying to figure out, like why we don't like Tyler Boyd. And there's more reasons than to not like Tyler boy than Kenyan Drake for the record, but I like. I like Tyler boy especially where he's going. I'm excited to get into that. I'm excited, uh to get into the Bengals, like just a little let's not waste no

more time. Let's let's get into it, and let's start with Cincinnati Bengals, because Zach Taylor finally a new regime in Cincinnati. And I think the biggest question that we have to ask ourselves we're gonna throw up to you, EUI, is how much is this going to change things? It's the same quarterback, the same core, the same poorest offensive lines and wide receivers, say running back, same tight ends.

I mean, are things the same in Cincinnati outside of the coaching staff for the first time in almost two decades? So are you more excited because of what's new? Or are you thinking that, hey, I knew what to expect when Morvin Lewis was in charge and that question mark has you a bit worried. I mean, for me, the Bengals are is a lot of opportunity. I mean, there's a lot of very high level fantasy players. A j. Green is being massively disperspected at this time of years.

If you're asking my opinion, uh, Joe Mixing is high on the board. I think he's uh slid a little because they lost their rookie left tackle. But I mean, for me, the most recent history where something like this where you should be excited to think about Jeff Fisher and the Rams. He made Todd Gurley unusable almost at

that time. You know, three years ago, was the best running back in the league, was drafted first overall, and Jeff Fisher, because of the way he coached, in the way he schemed an offensive game plan, made him almost unusable incomes McVeigh and there, if not the top there and the for sure in the top three offenses in the NFL. I'm not saying that's what Cincinnati is gonna be, but at least there is chance, there is a high

high chance that things will improve for fantasy. And I think that's actually a really good point that you bring up that when Jeff Fisher finally left the Rams, they were reinvigorated. There they had the same core. He wrought in other pieces like Robert Woods when others before Brandon Cooks, but they brought in a few other pieces nobody huge, and it was like a totally new team. Can Zach

Taylor have that effect. I know everyone likes to be friends with Sean mcveigh's that's how Zach Taylor got this job, But can Zach Taylor have that same effect on Cincinnati? That Sean McVeigh did on the Rams. I think he can have a similar effect, maybe not to the same extent, because again, Sean McVeigh, what he has been able to do over the past couple of seasons with the Rams has been precedented. It's been awesome to watch, it's been

awesome for fantasy football. But the chance is there, and I like what they said about the opportunity and the opportunity for upside, specifically in this Bengals offense. Last year they were seventeen in points per game, and that was with a j Green missing half the season. That was with Andy Dalton not able to finish the season, and that was with Marvin Lewis who's been you know, mired and meeker mediocrity for years now and was a defensive

minded head coach. So now you're bringing a younger, offensive minded head coach in Zach Taylor, who's just thirty six years old. He's close to that Sean McVeigh age range as well, so maybe he can relate with these, uh, these offensive players a little bit more and these younger guys on the team and all those things kind of together, Greg culminating, I think that there is legitimate offensive upside for these pieces on this team. I agree with the

y so far. Uh you know, when it comes to a J. Green, I feel like he's being a little bit disrespectable. We'll talk about that more. Obviously, we'll get into Tyler Boyd and Joe Mixon and you know, ultimately I think that there is offensive upside for this team. Yeah. I I maybe I've been maybe I've been too off on them because of these offensive line issues. But Zach Taylor is going to provide some life into the offense. I think that's really the word that comes to mind

right there. It seemed like forever it was he was the longest head to coach in the NFL. You know, he's outside of Bill Belichick thousand and three to team six. I mean, you get you get a breath of fresh air, you get a young, offensive minded head coaching. I don't think that it can hurt the offense the defense. It doesn't really matter for fans. It's going to change just how much? How does it reflect a DP. We're gonna tell you where you should draft all these Bengals. Will

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THEFFS Fantasy Sports Radio Network. Here at sports Grid, Eric Young, Frankie Stanford. We're getting into the Cincinnati Bengals, and let me start with running back and I imagine Tyler Boyd before I'll get him a j green a little bit. But let me start the running backs, and let me start with Joe Mixon. Where's Joe Mixon going right now, Frankie, Joe Mixon is going right now at that late first

early second round range. Specifically, I'm gonna start using um July as the date POSI because that was the day that the Tyreek Hill news was announced, so I changes everything. So Joe Mixon since then, over the past five days, his ADPs fifteen point six four is RB nine off the board sandwich between Melvin Gordon and Todd Gurley. Very interesting range of running backs, must say so myself. Yeah, that's that's a really interesting spot between Melvin Gordon, Joe Mixon,

and Todd Gurley. And I'd like to think that I'd like to think that Joe Mixon at this moment is the safest of those three, given the contract from Melvin Gordon, given the knee of Todd Gurley. Nixon is also going right after my guy James Connor as well. You I thought like Mixon more than Connor, didn't you. I have

Connor ranked once spot higher. You do. Yeah, even when I did the first round mock for the FANDUL hurry up, I had Conrad of Levin and I had Mixed, right, I convinced you that, yes, yes, I forgot I forgot Joe mix him. It's funny because because of the offensive line, I wasn't him at all. And again it's the end of July. God knows how it will change. But I wasn't really on at all because they did have multiple injuries along the offensive line, not just the rookie left tackle.

And I'm just like, I don't want to do this, And you went up to me a little while ago. I was like, Hey, the same crap offensive line and he finished as a top twelve running back last season. Why can't he do that again in a better offense. And when you said that kind of made sense. So let me throw this to you, e y, where do you have Joe Mixon ranks? And how would you compare

him to both Melvin Gordon and Todd Gurley given their situations? Uh? Yeah, currently I think I have him a number eleven, and uh I had him higher than that, and then the left tackle got hurt and they're moving the guy. I believe their right tackle back to left tackle. Um. But the more I'm thinking about it, I mean I could move him back up the offensive Like I said, is opportunity. And for someone with his skill set and his his crazy athleticism, all he needs his opportunity. He has a

three down back. He can play all three downs. He can catch, he can run in space, he's got size, he's got speed. I mean he's I mean literally, if you're going to build a running back from scratch, I mean I believe he would turn out just how Joe Mixon looks. So it's uh, I might have to move him up. He's at eleven now, But I mean we're so far out from the season, like they're just starting training camp, so I mean this is all up for debate. But uh, just thinking about it now, I might have

to move him up a little bit. I like mixing. Yeah, I like him as well. I have him as my RB eight overall right now, just ahead of Todd Gurley and Melvin Gordon for the reasons you mentioned. Greg, I just feel like he is the safest of that bunch right now. He doesn't have arthritis in his knee, or at least it hasn't been reported. And Melvin Gordon with the whole contract holdout situation right now. Uh, and yeah, look, Joe Mixon last year finesses RB nine in Fantasy points

per game. Last year, the average four point nine yards per carry. That was behind basically the same offensive line that he's going to be running behind this year. He played seventy three percent of the snaps. That is a workhorse load, you know. That was tied for eighth among running backs last year. He averaged exactly twenty touches per game, sixteen point nine carries per game, three point one receptions um.

And he was unquestionably they're running back inside of the red zone, Greg and you know I I say was because again it is a new scheme. But Zach Taylor is coming from Sean McVeigh system where he used Todd Gurley as a workhorse and used him as, you know, a legitimate pass catcher out of the backfield, and he was also the unquestioned workhorse running back inside of the

red zone. So I think, based on the fact that Joe Mixon was used that way last year, why would Zach Taylor go away from using Joe Mixon that way this year? Last season, Joe Mixon saw sixty six point seven percent of the Bengals carries inside of the twenty yard line, that was fourth most among running backs last season, seventy percent inside the ten that was tied for second, and seventy five percent of the Bengals carries from inside of the five yard line that was tied for third.

So all for remarks from inside the twenty, the ten, and the five were inside the top five in the NFL. So he's being used in the red zone, he's going to catch passes. He average four point nine yards per carry last year behind that offensive line. I don't really see what's not to like this. Year for Joe Mixon. We've also heard a lot that Zack Taylor is going to try to run as much as possible. That shall make the system for the three wide receivers, one running back,

one tight end correct. That he's a workhorse running back. They ran, whether he's an any problems or not. They ran to gurly into the ground in l A over the past two years. I have to believe they're going to do the same for Joe Mixon as well. Do you want to get Mixon now when he's about to be that girly level workhorse, not next year? Like right now, you're getting him at what I think is as FO Right, so last year he finished as RB nine based on

the workload that he's seen. I don't really think that that's going to change much. And his upside might be a top five running back if everything comes together for the offense. So you draft him now and you kind of have to project forward, whereas next year, maybe this guy's the top five pick. I honestly think if he stays healthy, being a top ten maybe top twelve is running back, that's probably his floor and that's close to

where you're getting him right now. Sure, absolutely, I think that Joe Mixon the more I look at it and the more and I just try to use reason, right, Like, I just try and get the guy that's going to get the ball, and Joe Mixon is gonna get the ball to me. There's nothing that really not to like here, Like besides the offensive line. The offensive line is an issue. But if Zach Taylor can get Joe Mixon in space and get him some openings, he's probably gonna finish once

again as the top ten running back. You got nothing from me. I have him as my r P eight, so I'm not gonna argue with you. Are you cool though? Her eight? Fine? You had him in the first moch that you did and things have changed, like Melbourne Gordon you had it number twelve overall, right, would you feel comfortable, either of you guys, with Joe Mixon as your first round pick? Yeah? I think it's just semantics, because you know, if you're in that back end, you're gonna get a

really really good wide receiver. Or you could double down on the running back position and take like a mixing and then one of these risky running backs like a girlie, or you know, the injury risk of a Dalvin Cook. So you know, it's really just semantics. He's yes, he's your first round pick, but you're going to get another top fifteen ish player in the second round as well. So yeah, I'm perfectly fine doing that. In fact, I

would take him. You know, if I was anywhere picks ten to twelve, I would take the running back first, just to make sure that I get him, and then you're still gonna get a really really good wide receiver in the second round if you wanted to as well, someone like a Michael Thomas or a Juju Smith Schuster, Odell Beckham. So, um, yeah, I think it's just semantics. I don't I don't mind taking him as my first round pick in that later half of the first round,

would you I have them? Outside of that? I think I have him at like, uh in between like sixteen and nineteen. He's kind of roving around in there, and like I said, I might move him up, which might bring him head. I mean, I think for me, it just depends on, um, you know, who goes before him and what kind of a scoring lead you're in. I mean, the the guy is going to catch passes, I think that's uh. Giovanni Bernard and that's more his specialty, not that mixing. Can't do it. But that's why, I mean,

that's where they're gonna use Bernard for. He's going to be the third down uh, pass catching back. That's what they've done. Um, not that mix and can't do it. And he didn't do it last year. He Uh, he was very effective at that when he did do it, but he didn't do it as that much and not as much as I think I'd like to see him. I mean, I'm a bit of an old school where I want I want a Black that can do all

those things to not come off the field. I want him to be on the field all the time and only to come off and the just catch his breath or maybe just a change of pace kind of thing, and I'll pick you back off what you just said. E y. I think he is capable of doing that. It's just a matter of he hasn't necessarily been used in that capacity yet. You look at his two year career in Oklahoma. He had sixty five receptions in just

those two years. So think he's capable of catching fifty plus passes, maybe even sixty plus receptions if he's used in a similar way that Gurley was used in l A. But I would set that floor at let's say forty five, because last year he averaged three receptions per game and he only played fourteen games, so he just missed that. But if you were to play sixteen, you obviously would have been on pace for like right around forty fifty receptions.

So I think he's probably gonna be in that range anymore, from like forty five to sixty receptions. I think the only time you see you come off the field, because again, there's no affinity here for any other running back anymore. Like it's not like Marvin Lewis drafted him and he's going to stick with him, and he likes somebody's friends with him. None that it doesn't matter anymore. Now it's the talent. And all I could go back is to Zach Taylor's history and the most recent history when it

comes to Taylor's Todd Gurley. I think that's what you can see what Joe Mixon too. All Right, I wanna take a break when we come back. Let's get into the wide receivers. Let's get into a J Green, Let's eat the Tyler Boyd. And if I get an interesting point to make it, Andy Dalton as well. We'll do all of that we come back. This's the BFFs here. I love Fantasy sports radio network from the NFL to the NBA. Daily Rohdo dot Com is the place to

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about their quarterback. Frank you was telling me before that you believe Andy Dalton is a fine super flex quarterback, and we compared him. Alex Fasano was talking to us and he was like, Hey, who would you have hired? Derek Carr or any Dalton? And my first instinct was like, that's a good one. That's pretty close. Like you got Antonio Brown now in Oakland, you got John Groom in the quarterback I but Annie Dalton, like when he's been healthy and when his team around it has been healthy.

There's been times We've used them throughout fantasy football leagues. So when I thought about it for a little bit longer, like you mean, Dalton Man, especially with Zach Taylor, Yeah, especially, I would have him ahead of Derek Carr. And this is look, if you miss out on obviously, I would want Todd Brady or or Jimmy Garoppolo, Philip Rivers, Lamar Jackson,

any of those top twenty two. I'm gonna keep using that twenty two mark as he cut off as the quarterbacks that I would really really want on my team, whether it's in a one quarterback league, if I wait for my first quarterback, or if I play in a super flex league, I would want two of those top twenty two guys. But if I do miss out on the Bradies, Garoppolos, Philip Rivers, I have Andy Dalton as

my QB twenty three. And it's worth mentioning that last year when everyone was healthy through weeks one to eight, Andy Dalton was the QB fourteen overall during that stretch.

So I just think based on the weapons that he has again having a j Green, having Tyler boyd Andy Dalton is not someone who's going to elevate the talent around him, but he is somebody himself who can have a decent fantasy output, who can be elevated when he has all those weapons around him healthy from a J. Green to Tyler Boyd to maybe they get something out of John Ross this year and Joe Mixon on the field as well. I think it's just worth mentioning that

last year we just wanted eight. Andy Dalton was the QB fourteen. He is a fine ish fallback option in a super flex league as your second quarterback, although I would want someone better than that. I'll take him ahead of Derek car though I agree, I think any Dalton's a fine choice as the second quarterback as a super flex What about you? What do you think? Yeah? I have him one ahead of Derek Carr, like literally like one quarterback ahead. And I feel like, um, it could

go either way. I feel like he's shown times when he's pretty efficient. Uh, he's heavily had very good fantasy quarterback seasons. Um. And I mean, if we're saying there's a possibility that mixes a thing, there's a J. Green is being disrespected, maybe even Tyler Boyd is being disrespected. Boy and he's the ball and he's the guy that's getting these guy players the ball. He's the starting quarterback

in Cincinnati. That's not even up for debate. So if this is going to be a good offensive fantasy team, then it's going to be led by Andy Dalton. So maybe we all got to move him up. I don't know. It's very funny because for years we talked about how you couldn't draft A J. Green before Julio Jones inside like that top Crew Water Shavers because of Andy Dalton.

And now because all these guys are going later, you're not talking about the first round anymore, and in most cases you're talking about the second round either that Andy Dalton is actually kind of a benefit, right, Like you have Andy Dalton, you know what you get. It's not bad, it's a better offense. You're like, okay, I'm cool with that. And that raised me A J. Green and Tyler Boyd. A J. Green probably isn't Frank Julio Jones, Odell Beckham,

Antonio Brown anymore, and it's reflected in his ADP. That's what I'm saying, like, is not in that category anymore. But I still feel like when you see his name still there on draft boards as you get into the second round, you get to Mike Evans of the World, for instance, and Keenan Allen and uh and more, you're like, oh, man, A J. Green is still there. A J. Green still can can be that guy I'm getting his steel. Do you feel that way about him? Yeah? I do right now.

And something that we hear about fantasy sports, whether it's baseball or football or any sport, really we try to find that player in that second third round range who can return first round value. We did a whole show. We did a whole show on it last year, and I'm sure we will again. I think A. J. Green is one of those players that's going in the third round right now that can return wide receiver one value this season. Technically he's actually going in the fourth round

and we're thirty seven overall at the NFF. Just it's crazy. Right now, I'm as my wide receiver twelve, just behind t Y Hilton and Keenan Allen, just the head of the Vikings guys. It's a bit of a toss up there and just ahead of a Mari Cooper just because I think he'll be more consistent than a MARII Cooper. But again, I'm gonna go back to weeks one through eight. That's when A J. Green was at his healthiest, Tyler Boyd was healthy on the field, and he Dalton was healthy.

All of them together during that time, A J. Green seventy five targets percent of the target share. He was the wide receiver seven overall in Fantasy football. During that time. He played sixteen games. In seventeen, he finished as wide receiver eleven. If you look at basically every season that he's been in the league, he's finished between wide receiver three and wide receiver seventeen and fantasy points per game.

I used points per game because there has been there have been seasons that where he's missed time due to injury. I think that's obviously being factored into his ADP right now. But in every season he's been in the league, he's finished between wide receiver three and wide receiver seventeen. So right now he's being drafted as wide receiver fifteen off the board, you're drafting him at his floor. You're getting

him as absolute floor. Greg when he's on the field, he will at least be around that range with his upside to be better because as I mentioned, those first eight weeks he was the wide receiver seven. I've Key is one of the best values right now going in the third fourth front range. It's really interesting because I think the wide receivers that he's paired with, and I think you have them in the right spot. Like to me,

he's definitely after Keenan Allen and t Y Hilton. But then you get to Mary Cooper, Adam Fields, Stefon Diggs, Like that's right, Like I think that crew is right. But then I think you have to open up the discussion to the other players that are going in the third round, right, like those wide receivers fine, like in that mix, Okay, I can get that, But he's in the mix with players like Leonard Fournett, who we spoke about earlier this week, Zach Ertz, George Kittle, Savante Freeman,

Marlon Mack. Like, would you take a J. Carry On Johnson? Would you take a J. Green above some of those guys? I think the answer probably is yes, Eric, Yeah, it's yes for me. I mean, if if a J. Green stays where he is, a DP, and I don't think you will, I think you'll just keep moving up and up and up. Um. I've got him my seventeen overall, like I'm taking him all over the place. I got him like above Michael Thomas, I got him above Maury Coop for Tyreek Kill, Tonio Brown. Um, he's just he's

just more of a sure thing. And I I think he's arguably up there with Hopkins as one of the best receivers in the league currently. And I mean again, this takes us back to his only problem is is Andy Dalton's quarterback. Andy Dalton cannot throw a great deep ball um, but they've proven that they can do it in the past. There's definitely a connection there. And if he stays healthy where he's being drafted, that's like that'll

be the steal of the year. You do have to keep in mind that, you know, he's battled a lot of injuries. Last year, he had a toe injury as well, So that's something to pay attention to during the during training camp. You know, all the training camps are starting to open up. This week, We're seeing more and more teams, the Falcons and the uh was it the Big Raiders

over training hid tomorrow was Broncos Broncos. Yes, it was the Falcons and the Broncos have already opened up because those are the two teams playing in the Whole of Fame game. But we're seeing more teams open up over this week and next week. Hey to to A J. Green, I want to see how he's moving. If we hear

anything about that toe. Honestly, if we hear anything that like he's sitting out because of a toe or like a foot or an ankle, then I think that, you know, if we already have concerns about that before the season even starts, Craig, then I think, like, all right, that's why he's going in this range. I get it. But if he's all systems go, then he is an absolute stealer at his carent adp. So the one of the other question marks that you have with A J. Green,

or at least certain people have a J. Green. Last year was were we seeing a changing in the guard I know our buddy Corey Parson pushed this right both in a both Atlanta and Cincinnati, like it was Calvin really going to become the guy and Julio Jones is in one way and the same in Cincinnati was some fire takes from the executive with Tyler Boyd go off this way and A J. Green down right like that was a take and Tyler Boyd on Calward lead too. But Tyler Boyd had a really good year last year,

over a thousand yards receiving. He was constantly in the end zone. But Frank made a really good point earlier to me today that hey, Tyler boys probably better on the field. A J. Green's across from him earlier earlier today. Tyler Boyd's side by time extension with Cincinnati million dollars over four years something like that, give or take. So he's gonna be in Cincinnati long term. That means the current regime, including Zach Taylor, likes what they've seen thus

far out of Tyler Boyd. How good Eric can Tyler Boyd be this year? Again? Again, this is and I mean it's just sounding a broken record. It circles around to the potential is with the new coach, the nude coaching scheme, if everything's clicking the way it should, they should be a pretty potent fantasy offense. I don't think their defense is going to be great, so they're going to have to, you know, for the receivers are going to be throwing the ball at the end of the game.

Trying to win, trying to come back, um, which is we know is a good thing for fantasy players. And if you're a guy that takes fantasy football series, you need to be paying attention to this kind of stuff. But drafting players that are just on good teams and teams that win is not a winning strategy for fantasy. Like having players on the Dolphins and having players Jacksonville

over the last two or three years. Those are guys that get a ton of catches because they're in hurry up mode at the end of the game, whipping the ball over the field. The defenses are in uh, you know, are pulled back and are not pressuring them and just trying to to to win the game. So it's uh, it'll be interesting the contract. That's a big player. I said. We can't listen to what they tell us. We can only listen to what they do or pay attention to

what they do. That's saying they believe in Tyler Boyd. Listen, A J. Green is the number one receiver there and and it will be as long as he's he's healthy this year by Tyler brook Boyd could be a threat this year and and obviously going forward. So it's uh, if you're somebody to pick him up kind of really late or whatever in the Dynasty draft, you're you're you're

smiling big time right now. Tyler boy player off the board according to the NFC over the last few days, after players like three Cohen, James White, Cooper Cuff, and Calvin Ridley. Interestingly enough, right before players like O. J. Howard Alshon, Jeffrey Allen Robinson and Evan Ingram Frank and we about like thirty seconds or so before we get to the break. Tyler Boyd. We can finish after the break obviously. Yeah. I like Tyler Boyd where he's going

right now. Finished wide receiver seventeen last year, seventy six receptions over a thousand yards, seven touchdowns on a hundred and eight targets. The first eight weeks again of the season, when everyone was healthy, he was wide receiver twelve. So he is unquestionably better when A. J. Green is on the field. Played sixty seven percent of his snaps in the slot last year. He will fill the Cooper cup role in this Zach Taylor Sean McVeigh ish offense, and

he's filling that Cooper Cup roll. How valuable will he be. We'll tell you when we come back. Hey, thanks for downloading the podcast, and remember, if you want to listen live, download the I Heart Radio app, download the tune and app and just search for Fantasy Sports Radio Network and you could listen to this program live. Also, if you want to watch the video of this podcast, check us out on YouTube, all on Twitter, or on Periscope and type in you guess it, Fantasy Sports Network. You'll find

us there. Enjoy the show and thanks for listening. We're back with you. And admittedly we we know we have a lot to gainst with the Browns if we bleed him in the action hour. Bit so be it so, Tyler Bowd, as I said going on the board, fifty eight overall, Frankie, and that's after Cooper Cup. And you believe he has the ability to be a Cooper Cup in this offense. But you said earlier that like when you got to him in a draft, you probably wouldn't pull the trigger. O come, I just don't love the

a DP overall in reference to other wide receivers. It's fine, he's the wide receiver off the board according to the NFFC. I have him ranks right now. As my wide receiver six. But his ADP is sixty, so it's the last pick of the fifth round, you know, late fifth, early sixth round range. I agree with him going ahead of names like Alshon Jeffrey. I don't think I'm gonna have much to do with Alshon Jeffrey this season. Allen Robinson, Jervis Landry will talk about when we do the Browns as well.

I like Dante Pettis too, but I guess you'd basically be drafting Dante Pettis to do something similar to what Tyler Boyd already has done and did this past season. So I like him in reference to wide receivers. I think it's a fair value, but is a DP just seems a little high to me right now in that late fifth round range. To me, it feels right like, it feels totally acceptable. I guess like he was good last year. Ultimately, he was certainly better with a J.

Green into to both of his hundred yard games. You don't rather have him as your wide receiver three then your wide receiver too in an ideal world, yes, yeah, because if you're taking him, I don't, let's say, late fifth round, if you take one of the early quarterbacks or a tight end and he's your wide receiver too. Based but if you go to running backs too, wide receivers and you can get him as your wide receiver,

three's that's fine. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Um the tight end position with the Cincinnati Bengals, is there anything here that we have to think about? Frank? They haven't officially resigned zech Tyler Eifford, have they. That's why I was trying to look up as you were talking. I don't think that they have. I think, well, I'm our lads. Depth charts does have Tyler Iford on the team, but he

was good when he played last year. Again, if all those weapons are healthy, this is a really, really good

Cincinnati Bengals offense and they have upside. But I mean, you can't depend on this guy for you know, he's in that discussion where when you use your last two round picks on tight ends that you're gonna you're gonna end up streaming tight ends anyway, you know, in that conversation with like Noah Fan and Mark Andrews and guys like that, when you wait that long, Like sure, there's some upside from a streaming basis when it comes to

Tyler Eifert. But it's not It's not someone that you can draft and say, all right, well, he's gonna be my starter for the entire yew of that season. It's just someone that you're gonna stream as long as he's healthy. Tyler Iffort did resign with the Bengals uh early in March, but they did draft a second round tight end named Drew Sample. Uh. He is in there. And remember Zach Taylor, Zach Taylor and job If they didn't really utilize the tight end on a consistent basis. With the rams Um,

Tyler Higby was involved, all every involved. He couldn't really count on either of them. I know Tyler Iffort used to be different, but I think all those injuries probably have caught up to him now. I don't see anything from the tight end position he wise or anything else since Nati Bengals. You want to mention before we move

on to the Cleveland Browns. No, I think just what he said with efford Um, he's a guy in best ball like I'm taking him with, you know, my my third tight end, my very last pick, because we've seen him be a dompant, dominant player of that position before. Andy Dalton likes to throw the tight end. He's proven that. Um. But now with the new system, I mean, who knows, Like you said that the Rams, he was in the RAM system. Uh the coach was in the RAM system

and they just didn't throw to the tight end. And now is that they don't really have good tight ends or what it is. But uh, Ifford as a guy that he's a dart throw but but could be a huge kind of like last round pick up, Greg, Please don't kill me for saying this, but I'll throw the name out there. There was three wide receivers in the Rams. We've mentioned two wide receivers to the Bengals, John Ross. Can he be the of the Bengals offense. I'll just

throw it out there. I'll throw it out there. Look, he has the pedigree. He was a top ten pick. Did he deserve to go that high? Probably not. He's someone who you know, wowed everybody because of what he was able to do in terms of his forty time and he tested well. He hasn't been able to do anything. I'll just I'll just throw his name out there. In deep leagues, you know, there are leagues where you'll go twenty rounds deep. There's leagues that you go deeper than that.

In leagues like that, will you draft like six seven wide receivers. Just remember John Ross's name in case they finally get anything out of him in three wide receiver sets. Already, let's move on to the Cleveland Grounds, who had quite these sexy off season here, acquiring Odell Beckham, firing Kareem Hunt. So there's a lot to digest here. Let me begin with Odell Beckham Jr. He finally, somehow he's not playing with his best friend of the world, Jarvis Landry, which

could screw up Jarvis Landry's value. But Frank, we have this discussion yesterday during the Action Hour because O'Dell was in the news again. But when he's on the field, he's his talented as any wide receiver in the NFL. Problem is he hasn't been on the field all that much the last couple of years. But he is a game changer, a guy that can finish as the number one wide receiver in the NFL. Where are you drafting

Odell Beckham Jr. This year? I don't have a problem with his current ADP going in that you know, early to mid second round range. As of right now, his ADP is thirteen point nine in the NFFC, so really closer to the start of the second round. UM, I put out a poll before the show asking you know, in that range, which wide receiver would you want most, and it included Odell Beckham, juju Smith, Schuster, and now

Tyreek Hill because he will not be suspended. So far, fifty two votes and forty percent say Odell Becca him. I think I would actually rather go with either of the other two, Judice Smith, ju Juice Smith, Schuster and Tyreek Hill. There's no doubt how talented Odell Beckham is since when he's joined the league he is top five in targets, receptions, receiving yards, receiving touchdowns. And that's with all the games that he's missed. But again, he's missed

sixteen games over the past two seasons. UM, we know that when he's on the field, he's a target monster. He was with the Giants, he should be so again with the Cleveland Browns. What they gave up to try and obviously acquire him here and Baker Mayfield is a much much better quarterback than Eli Manning, so I see what the upside is I just think that he has

a little bit more downside in terms of the injuries. Well, I mean when you turn when you talk about using an early second round pick, you really have to split hairs here. I just really like Juju Smith Schuster's situation this year, and obviously Tyreek Hill everything that's going on with him. Look, if he's on the field, we know that he's going to be one of the five best wide receivers in football and for fantasy football. So I

just trust those guys a little bit more. If somebody wanted to take Odell Beckham earlier, I can't really argue with him. I'm just a little bit more worried about the injuries that he's had. What about you, e y Odell Beckham Jr. As talented as any player in the league. Fright front of a great point, Juice Shoesters in this range, Tyreek Hills in this range? Who first, Um, yeah, I have I have Juju, then Hill, then then Beckham. That's the that that three in that order right now? Um, lookay,

I mean Odell Beckham is a basket case. He's somebody that is hurt constantly. But we've never ever seen him play in an offense with this many weapons. And to me, when you put a guy of his skill set in an offense that's going to move the ball, they're going to you know, they're going to the they're going to run place quickly, they're going to have a high volume, and you can't just double and triple team him all the time because of Landry, because of n Joku, because

of uh Chubb. You mean, like, these are things that that you all have to think about in Baker Mayfield is the best quarterback that he's played. Look at Eli Manning as it was maybe not now, but it was a good quarterback. But Beckham's never really had a bunch of weapons around him to pull coverage. So it's I'm excited to see where the Cleveland Browns are this year. I think the NFL is a better league when the

Cleveland Browns are good. Um. I know, like last year with the hype and and then you know, kind of pouring it on mid season with the coaching change and stuff, made the NFL interesting. Um And Uh, O b J is definitely interesting, very much. Is interesting. What about on the other side, O b J. What about Jarvis Landry, He's best friend in the world. Now Jervis Landry on its terrible Dolphins team and he racked with the receptions.

You're the most better Browns team. Now. Theoretically, the better quarterback with a better wide receiver next to him should be good, I think, But people are addling this guy this year. How come Jarvis Landry has been a volume dependent wide receiver who needs a ton of targets to meet his fantasy value. He's been a reception monster, but in order to get those receptions, he needs the targets.

And last year, when we saw in the second half of the season when Freddie Kittens took over a calling plays for the Cleveland Browns, the same Freddy Kitchens that will be calling plays this season for the Cleveland Browns, we saw Jarvis Landry's targets dropped from the first eight games eleven point six targets per game the final eight games with Freddie Kitchens calling plays six point nine targets

per game. His receptions went from six point one to four per game, and his yardage went down ten yards per game. That was for Jarvis Slndry. That was even before Odell Beckham was in the mix. Here in Odell Beckham, someone whose average ten point five targets per game in his career, He's never had a season below a twenty

five percent targets share. It's just to me, Jarvis Landry, someone who has never had less than a hundred and thirty one targets in his career, in each of the past four seasons, he's likely closer to that one fifteen target range. And because of that, I don't really think that he's gonna come close to what he's done in years past. Now, I will say this, I think Ey brought up a good point that there are a ton

of weapons on this team. So if someone's trying to double team Modell Beckham, that's going to leave Jarvis Landry opened over the middle, and you know he should be able to make the most of his opportunity. But again, I just think the lack of target share that he's used to seeing as the number one wide receiver pretty much wherever he's been in his career. I think that's really really going to affect his fantasy output this season. Greig, Yeah,

I I think that makes sense. I think Jarvis Landry is in a role that we don't know yet, is in a position that we don't really know yet it's going to be different. The volume is not going to be there, like you said, there's too many other guys, like you said, and I think that unknown makes fantasy owners fearful here you way. I mean, I guess it isn't real fear. Like he he has always been known as a volume guy, um, because he's played on teams where there was no other people to throw the ball

to him, Like when he played in Miami. He was the best player on the team last year. I mean you had Hollywood Higgins and and you know, like guys that that were decent, and then Joe who was wasn't what he's going to be this year, I believe. So I think probably the volume goes down, but the quality of targets and the room around him and single coverage is going to be very helpful for him. I believe that he's really good after the catch, um and could be a dangerous guy. I mean, you have to respect

Odell Beckham no matter what. There's gotta be one guy on him with safety help over the top on almost every play. That's going to open up the middle of the field, that's going to open up the other side, and that's where uh, that's where Jarvis Landry is gonna live. So I feel like the volume does go down, but the quality I don't know if there's a word for that, but the quality of his catches and targets I think will be much much higher. And that's the case for

Jarvis Landry. And you know I mentioned that as well. I I agree like there obviously you can make a case for and against pretty much any player that we're going to talk about. I im more so lean towards the case against him just because of the lack of volume that that Jarvis Landry is going to see this year. But that is the case for Jarvis Landry. And you know when we did the uh we did our top

Fantasy football bus for the for the vandal hurry up, Greg. I. You know, I had Jervis Landry as one of my bust heading into the season, and somebody tweeted at me and made that exact case that even on less volume, he'll be much more productive on a per target basis. Is that something that you can get behind if you

want to draft Jarvis Landry this season. Yeah, So I think if you go into the draft wanting to draft him, yes, he's going to have more open opportunities because he's not going to be the guy that the Jarry the defense targets at all. Absolutely, I think that's realistic. But the problem that we've seen with Jarvis Landry, not you're in in era out because it's been some years where it wasn't the case, has been the red zone production. No doubt,

does that change this year. I don't see why it would in terms of scoring touchdowns right Udell Beckham is going to demand so many targets on the field, so is Koku as well, just because he's such a big body and a freak athlete. It just doesn't really make much sense for you know, unless he's wide open, and then of course, yeah, fine throwing the ball in the red zone, I get it. But if that's not the case, it just seems like there's the other personnel packages players

around him. In terms of Beckham and David and Joku, seemed like they might be better utilized in that area of the field in the red zone. So I would agree with that as well. I think, you know, obviously you have concerns about the volume and the targets is here, Greg, but touchdowns have pretty much always been an issue when it comes to Jarvis Heinrich. All right, so let's take a break. We're to come back. We'll get into David and Joku a bit and then on the other side

to start the hour. And he all wants to hang on. Of course he's welcome. We'll get in the Cream Hunt and Nick Chum and the running in bicker Mayfield as well. A lot more to come with the Cleveland Brown's stick around from the NFL to the NBA. Daily Rodo dot Com is the place to win millions in daily Fantasy. You can get the best DFS NFL coverage all season long for a price of one, or dominate the entire Daily Fantasy Sports realm with the Elite package at month.

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We have but three minutes ago in this hour, our number two is on the way, y as I said, you're We're welcome to hang out if you have the Time's get David to Joko just for a moment, because the Joku was a popular sleeper at the position last season. He comes into this season's high powered attack going as the number ten tight end at the moment off the board, just in the front of Austin Hooper, Trey Burton, Lamandalaney

Walker and more. The problem with for me guys With David to Joku, he said, there's just there's not enough targets to go around in this offense. He's gonna have his really good games, did you have his really crap games too? And I think ultimately you'd be more frustrated than anything else if you draft Davena Joko. Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. He finishes tight end nine last season. But after the top five tight ends last year, the scoring went way down. It was

a huge drop off after Jared Cook. Those guys basically from tight end six on were guys that you were streaming for most of the year, and if you use them weekend and week out more often than not, as Greg mentioned, you were let down. His targets went up to eighty eight last year. Yards went up to six thirty nine. His catch right went up to sixty three point six. Still has some issues with drops. He has

all the physical tools in the world. The guy tested incredibly, incredibly well coming out of college, but he still has to continue to work on his hands, get better as a route runner and a as a receiver at the tight end position. I scored three of his four touchdowns in those final eight games once Freddie Kitchens took over as the play caller. So maybe you hang your hat on that a little bit that you know Freddie Kitchens

used him a little bit more here. Um, he's probably someone I would target if I obviously I want one of the top five guys. And then you know, you look at like Jared Cook and Vance McDonald's a popular breakout once you miss out on those guys. I think David and Joke, who is probably right in that mix. I don't have a problem with his ADP. Yeah, I think he's fine for me. It's like, it's whatever, I don't really want him. I like, I agree with you on that. Like if I take him, I would have

to get another tight end later on. Who has upside? Someone like a Noah fan or a Mark Andrews. Someone like that, Greg, turn your mic foe, Eric, give it a Joe in a in a moment? Are you why you? Who? Stick around? Yeah? Awesome? All right, I'm taking Greg's guying. It's the Fantasy BFS here on the Fantasy Sports Network. Will be back with our two up next. I couldn't catch the live show, make sure the download our podcast at the v n T S Y Sports Network Audio Boom channel. Oh