BFFs 7/17 Hour 1: Patriots and Dolphins Fantasy Previews

that description. You don't have the you don't have the facial hair, though, so you're all right, Greig, Hello, Hello, Eric Hello, flannels. Flannels. Fine, it's just when you're obviously not a woodsman or a tradesman or a construction worker and you're trying to look like that, you're wearing scuffed up boots and a car heart jacket and this big beard and this red and plaid flannel. You've probably never

slept a day outside. You've probably never swung in a real axe, so for at some hippie ax throwing thing, which actually really fun. By the way, Oh my god, have you ever swung into X before? Greg I have not. I didn't shoot a gun once in my life though. I actually have never shot a gun. But I have swung an X shot a gun, wash chopping some wood. E Y would have been proud. I don't do it in my flip flops like you, e Y. But I tried. I wasn't. I was late at night. I just didn't

have time to get shot was Um. You should have seen me shooting a gun. It was very funny as you expect. Yeah, I can. I can only imagine Greg Susamani with a gun in his hand. We're all safe, all right. Um, just a quick update. My fort loader down tomorrow. It'll be like high eighties, but it will feel like nine the humid today. You're going there starting tomorrow, Yes, okay, so there you go. That's a little programming. Know for the rest of the week. Greg's been out Thursday and Friday.

I'll be here with e Y tomorrow. E Y. You run on Friday as well. We'll try to make it myself e Y and Florio again on Friday, get the band back together an hour to tomorrow. Have Alex Fasano from downstairs up in studio as well. I won't be there you won't be here now, just me flying solo ish kind of not not really at all, not you have you have friends in terms of in studio kind

of solo. So for those I did not admittedly get a chance to listen to the program yesterday, as you saw me right outside at a meeting that Greg was doing big boy things. What did I have to What do I have to know in regard to um, the Vikings and the Packers. Just quick quick update here. So I said that it in a one quarterback league. I'm more after draft Aaron Rodgers this upcoming season than I have been probably ever before. He's coming at a discount.

I think that some positive touchdown regression is coming his way. E Y and I both agreed that Aaron Jones has RB one upside. I believe the Y said that he has Aaron Jones is RB twelve. You know I have Davante Adams as my wide receiver. One the toss up for the Packers was whether or not you want Geronimo Allison or MVS because they basically are going at the same point right now, and I slightly lean MVS, but I don't know that there is a right answer to

that question. Greg. So it's it's interesting. I was in my my Scott's fish bowl and I was deciding between both of them, and instead I just think James Washington because I couldn't decide which one. Yeah, but I think that's very comparable. And I said that yesterday too, I said, those are two situations where you want exposure to whoever the wide receiver too is correct. So you're gonna take a shot on Allison or mvs and with the Steelers

will get to them in the next coming weeks. You're gonna take a shot on Washington or Dante Crief because there could be legitimate fantasy value in either one of those situations. I feel seen that in the past. For whatever reason, I feel better about James Washington that I do Moncreeve Allison and Envy has a really really tough to figure out um and I think they might play different roles. I think Liston has been working out of the slot really so far in like O t As,

We'll see what happens in training. I think I think of him were like a James Jones types. That's really interesting that he's working out of the slot. So most people might not even realize this but MVS is actually bigger and faster than Geron Alison. So he plays on the outside and he's been working with I read this yesterday. He's been working with Randy Moss. Doesn't mean he's Randy Moss, but he's six ft four greg and his his forty yard dash and his speed score both ranking like the

nineties six percentile coming out of college. Very interest. So MBS is like a really really interesting power speed combination at the outside wide receiver position. Yeah. Again, I'm gonna want these packers. I also, speaking of the packers, I drift that Jamal Williams this morning in my Scott's Fish Bawl. Do you have Aaron Jones? No? All right, Well I'm sorry then. I don't really think there's much upside with

Jamal Williams. I mean, unless Aaron Jones gets hurt, with which I guess is a possibility, has like three m c L hairs already in his career. The sixteenth round, and I thought, hey, why not? I put out a poll yesterday, Uh Dnala Allison versus MVS, and MVS won the poll fifty eight percent of the vote. I would let Jeronali Allison. For some reason, I mean, I like both. If I could get my hands on either one, I'm I'm down. I think I'd just slightly lean MVS over

Alison when what was the Minnesota conversation. The Minnesota conversation was we don't really see a pack to Kirk Cousins being all that fantasy viable because we believe the Vikings are gonna run the football a ton if Dalvin Cook stays healthy, he has top five RB upside and good luck figure out who you want between Adam Feeling and Stefon Diggs. When I do, you probably lean Diggs because

he's a town at leave Feeling. There's a real connection there between him and Kirk Cousins fair and he plays a slot too. Absolutely right, We'll take a break. No more Vikings, no more Packers. Today we hit on the Patriots and the Dolplins. They're around. More on the way next. Hey, thank for downloading the podcast, and remember, if you want to listen live, download the I Heart Radio app, download the tune and app and just search for Fantasy Sports

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Greg Suspan all here with you. And today as we get away from the NFC, we move on to the a f C East, and we know that you've gotten a bunch of all the previews of course on the network, but we're doing in our own style. Like I have a bunch of questions, as I mentioned, and I'm just trying to get the answered. I'm not trying to previews my position round by around. I'm trying to do that and maybe we will get there, and I have a feeling when we finished kind of going over these teams

will probably take it round by round after that. I know you have some other stuff you want to do as well, but where to get to all that stuff? But right now, as I said, I just have questions, and my questions today start with the Miami Dolphins. And my my question really is and I truly can't understand it, and that's why everybody is not in love with Kenyan Drake like I am, Like I I love this dude. Admittedly, he helped me with a championship a couple of years ago,

so I had afinity for him. But last year with Frank Gore in Miami and Adam Gaze there, I was like, oh, you know, who knows what's to come, who knows what he could possibly be. And it was very, very frustrating cause whatever you had the ball, and it was certainly not as much as he should have. I thought he succeeded, and down the stretch he had, he got a little bit more time, his head did come off a bit. But whenever Kenyan Drake was given an opportunity, he succeeded.

Now the two biggest detractors of Kenyan Drake are gone. There's no more Adam Gaze, there's no more Frank Gore. It's Kenyan Drake, and it's Calen Blage. Fine, Caylen Blage. Nothing wrong with him, all good. Kenyan Drake has proven that he's an NFL running back. He has proven that he can have success between the tackles, he could have a success in the passing game. He could do a little bit of everything. And yet when I look at Kenyan Drake's e d P, to me, it doesn't nearly

reflect how good he could be. Kenyan Drake is currently the forty six player off the board when it comes to the running backs. Kenny and Drake, according to the nf FC in the month of July, is the twenty second running back off the board after a guy that you like in mark Ingram, after carry On Johnson, who we've spoken about, uh right before, Philip Lindsay and David Montgomery. To me, the fact that you're getting this guy at the end of the fourth round made the early fifth.

I feel like I'm missing something because this offense, which is not gonna be very good. I get it, Ryan, It is one guy. It's Kennyan Drake. He does everything we're looking for. All these situations where we want one guy, we found him and someone's had success before. Frank, What am I missing? Well, you hit on a few of the things there. I think this team overall is not going to be very good. And I think if Josh Rosen is the quarterback that limits some of the upside

as well. I think if Ryan Fitzpatrick were the quarterback that ultimately helps the offense, helps them have big plays and helps him get down the field. In terms of putting them in position to score points overall, getting inside the red zone. So I think Ryan Fitzpatrick would help him do that. But I am in the uh. I'm in the side that I believe Josh Rosen probably starts the majority of the games this year for the Miami Dolphins. I agree with you that Kenyan Drake is a really,

really talented running back. We all saw it in twenty seventeen, that final month of the season where he led all running backs in rushing yards. He was the RB seven during that stretch from weeks thirteen through seventeen back in ten And you know, I have a bunch of stats listed here. I can basically talk your ear off about how good he is on a per touch basis, Greg, But I know that's awesome, That's exactly it. Do you

think I'll throw this back your way? Do you think that wherever he's been throughout college and in the NFL, there is a reason he has not had a hundred more than a hundred and thirty three carries dating back to high school? Is there a reason? Is it because he's I couldn't pass protection? Can he not withstand a

workhorse workload? Because at some point Greg I look at everything that's happened in college and the NFL level, and I think maybe the coaches know something that we don't about Kenyan Drake, whether it's his durability or something like that. That's the question mark that I have that kind of holds me back and the fact that the Dolphins offense

is just not gonna be good. This conversation reminds me of an exact conversation that we had three years ago, exact conversation, and it revolved around a forward Dolphins running back, and that is Lamar Miller. Because the same thing in college, didn't have the worklod at Miami, went to the Dolphins, didn't have the workload with the Dolphins, and he went to the Houston Texans, and everybody in fantasy football drooled over him because it was gonna be finally for him

in an offense by himself. Now, admittedly it was not nearly the season that we had hoped for, But when you were drafting Lamar Miller that year with everything going right for him, it was the second round. You're getting Kenyan Drake two rounds later, and e y, he's the guy. Like we have questions about Josh Jacobs, you have questions in my opinion, and we disagree about this. We'll get to it next week. About mark Ingram, there are questions Kenny and Drake's the man, he's had success. What am

I missing? Man? I mean for me, I'm on the same boat as you. I may not be as high. I think I got him right as uh running back overall, So I mean that's probably higher than most. I believe in this player. I believe in he has every skill. But I think the scary part is Adam Gates. That's where it comes down to. Adam and Gays is gone is finally Yeah, Adam gys is gone finally has a coach that theoretically is going to track is Yes, no doubt about it. We've never seen Brian Floress. We've never

seen Chad o'sheay being offensive coordinator. We've seen them together in New England. But everybody, ladies doing just wants to run the ball, right like we know that. We know certainly the Manatrician does. We knew Bill O'Brien, Bill O'Brien did, Charlie whis steyd Romeo Cornell does. Everybody wants to run the ball here's their running back. They're going to run

the football. We actually spoke about this a lot yesterday and we kind of agreed that everybody wants to run the football, but hey, you need to be winning games to be able to run the football greg and you have to have a pretty solid defense. Those things I don't think are going to be the case this year for the Miami Dolphins. I think they're probably going to be one of the worst teams in the NFL. They're often of line is ranked thirty second according to Pro

Football Focus. They lost their two arguably two of their three best offensive lineman from last season in free agency, So the offensive line not being good, not gonna have a lot of leads. It just all kinds of adds up to I don't know how many carries's gonna get now. I do think that he is going to have a prominent role in the past game. And you mentioned that Chad O'shay is calling place for the first time in his career. He was the wide receiver coach in New England,

so he's kind of worked under Josh McDaniels. He's seen what McDaniels has done, so he's kind of learned how to use a running back as a pass catcher. There's always been a pass catcher in New England and last year we saw what they did with James White at the least. I think that's the big thing for him right like, is he's not going to come off the Kevin Kevin Blage or whatever his name is, isn't going to be He's not a pass catcher. He's a big bruiser,

goal line guy. Drake's going to be on the field. I mean the question is are they going to throw the ball to him? Is he going to get usage? If he does, I think he's going to be a good running back. I mean a very very very good, good UH draft position for him where he's a very great value at this point. I mean I got him in Scott Fish Bowl as my number two running back, and I mean I'm super happy with that right now. Absolutely well of course, and that and that that I

don't I don't hate his ADP. Like I like where he's going right now. Greg I could get in on him based on that. Again, I think he's going to catch a lot of pass this year. I think that's going to be the that's gonna be what saves his fantasy value. You know, if he doesn't have the opportunity to run the ball fifteen plus times a game because they're trailing a ton, I still think that he is going to get a lot of targets. So you look at that range, like right around mark Ingram. Who do

you like more carry On Johnson? I like harry On Johnson. Why there's three? We talked about it last week. I think the Detroit Lions are gonna be a better team. Don't suck I I disagree. I think they're gonna be a better team. Was there over under? I couldn't tell you off It's probably like seven. It's probably in that range. It's a tough division. I realized that they made a lot of additions to the defense in the off season and needed it. They're going I think their offensive line

is pretty good too. It's the middle of the pack. But I just think there are a lot of things that are playing in carry On Johnson's favor that are much better than Kenyan Drake. Look, we're just going based off the assumption that he's going to be a workhorse running back this year. We don't know that for sure. Over All, the projections I've seen for Kenyan Drake's carries this here are a hundred and sixty five six and

a half. Otherwise, the over under, I think that they're going to be Yeah, I mean it's tough, probably over that. I think that the Detroit lines are going to be better this year. I like their offensive line and I like carry On Johnson overall too. You said there's three guys there, I mean, what does that mean, Greg Well, I mean, I don't think that they're really gonna use c J. Anderson. I don't think he signs there Unles

they're gonna use them. Yeah, he has opportunities. Calein Blash is going to get a few carries per games, but c J. Anderson is It was a free agent chose to go to Detroit. He had other I think the Lions theo riti as well. I believe that when I see it. It's been there for a long time where there's fire. I've been They've been talking about it, no doubt about it, but there is no dispute. Hendon Drake's a guy this year in Miami, and I'm gonna take advantage of it by drafting him. We'll take a break

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like you agree that, all right. I'm just saying now that that's two people who make projections for a living, Davis Maddick and Blake Bailey have him both for under one sixty five carries. I'm just saying, I'm throwing it out there. I'm saying that they are wrong, all right. I mean they very well could in terms of ADP. Like you read at Colin howse stupid projections were right, which, well he's probably bring it back. Which, uh, which running

back going around Kenyan Drake? Would you rather have Kenyan Drake over? I'd rather have them to carry on Johnson, all right. I can't get behind that. That's fine. They got him one to one over carry on Johnson, Lindsey just in front of him, Josh Jacobs one in front of him, rather have him to Josh Jacobs. I disagree with with that. That's fine, just because Josh Jacobs is going to be I mean, they drafted him to be a they used the first round pick on him. They're

going to use him like a workhorse run back. It's a better offense that I can see in PPR. I can see Kenyan Drake over mark Ingram and PPR in full point, PPR and half and standard. I think mark Ingram's gonna score more touchdowns with the Ravens. We'll see, all right, the other weapons, if you will. With the Miami Dolphins, Uh, there's not much, Frank. You look at what they've done offensively, it's all the same, and it

was not very good last year. Kenny Stills, DeVante Parker, Bryce Butler, here Man and and and this is the offense that of a running back that you want on your team. I'm just gonna keep hammering home that point. I just I don't think that they're going to have many scoring opportunities. I don't know how often they're going to get down the field and look, it's it's the same as last year. It's Kenny Stills, it's Devonte Parker, it's Bryce Butler. Those are your projected starting wide receivers

right now. For the Miami Dolphins. They have Mike Caasecki. Let's see if he can take a step forward in year two. He was drafted in the second round by the these Miami Dolphins. It is a new coaching regime that didn't have anything to do with drafting Mikeasecki. But overall, for all the weapons involved, I'm not really targeting any

of them outside of Kenyan Drake. If Ryan Fitzpatrick were the starter for like the first month of the season, I would have a lot more interest in someone like Kenny Stills, who led this team with like a sixteen average depth of target last year. Yeah, totally, Kenny Stills. Ryan Fitzpatrick would obviously work, And I think that's something that I can get behind. It's not gonna cost you anything.

And when we find out who the quarterback is, I totally agree, because Ryan Fitzpatrick is going to be bombs away. But let's say we're drafting right now, we why and we don't know who the quarterback is going to be. Between Fitzpatrick and Josh Rosen, are you taking a shot on any of these wide receivers or the tight end in Miami or are you you know, saying I'll rather

than somebody else, no matter what the prices. Yeah. I mean, as of right now, nobody knows who's going to be the starting quarterback there, not even the team, not even the head coach, not neither of the quarterbacks. No. Um. I was reading a thing the other day saying that Fitzpatrick looked good and he's uh been the more impressive one in camp. I was like, well, we'll see. Josh Rosen went from a terrible offensive line to not another good offensive line, so that's gonna be. Uh it's a

hard move for this guy. I mean, I feel like he was considered a very good quarterback. But I mean, we're going to find out. I think Josh Rosen starts because they're gonna want to see what they have in him. Um, and I feel like they know that they're not going to be ultracompetitive this year. So that's what I think. And for me, Still. I have the DeVante DeVante Parker disease. He has all the intangibles, but he's never played in an offense that is any good. So we'll see with

these coaches how they scheme it up. I like that this guy was a Patriots wide receiver coach. He was Round McDaniels. If nothing else, he at least has an idea how to scheme these guys open and how to use players with their best skills, you know, like that's what the page it's due. They figure out what you're good at and you do that thing. So hopefully this guy does that, uses Drake, uses Parker. Kenny Stills has

proven he can do it again. I think Albert Wilson is really interesting as a as a gadget slot guy, um crazy speed. We saw him flash a bit last year. So I'm not writing the Dolphins off because I mean, the route is is. Nobody knows. This is way too early. They were bad last year, but this is going to be a different team. Uh not different players, but different coaches, different schemes, different offensive play calling. So we're going to find out. Yeah, I actually agree with e Y that

I think. Again, we don't know, but I think Josh Rosen probably starts the majority, if not all, the games this season. The Miami Dolphins gave up a second round

pick for him. I think they want to see what they have in Rosen, and they're not going to win a lot of games, so they need to decide whether or not Josh Rosen could be their quarterback in the future, because if not, if they have like a you know, first, second or third overall pick next year, it's a very strong quarterback class coming out of college next season with Tua and and Justin Herbert, So you know, they need to figure out whether Josh Rosen is that guy, because

if he's not, then they're going to want to be in on one of those quarterbacks. So I agree with e Y overall that Josh Rosen is more than likely starting the majority of the games here, and it was the worst possible situation that he can be thrust into last year as a rookie. Entire offensive line was just depleted by injury and a you know, a an an incompetent. I will use that word for their offensive coordinator Mike McCoy, who didn't know how to use David Johnson didn't really

know how to get anybody open um. Just it was just a train wreck of the season for Josh Rosen. Not really a much better situation here from Miami, but it seems like they have a little bit more confidence in him than the Arizona Cardinals did. Totally totally agree with that. I want to shift gears here because we only have a half hour left the Fantasy conversation with Eric,

so I want to get on shoot the rand. The Patriots and the thing those is We've kind of alluded to this a bunch here on the show, and I'm very high on Kenyan Drake. He just heard that, but also high Sony Michelle. And it seems to me that a lot of fantasy experts and analysts and fans are not nearly with me when it comes to Sony Michelle. And my my evidence is it's kind of obvious to me, right, Like Sony Michelle, we talked about first round pedigree. He has it. He was a first round draft pick last

year of the New England Patriots. He battled injuries early, and that's gonna be a recurring theme that we're gonna talk about. He battled injuries early, got healthy, and then touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. All some injuries in the middle of the season, came back, had some success, touchdown, touchdown. You get into the playoffs, he was a dominant force, scoring what four touchdowns in the a F c um SETI Final whatever you want to call it. Had six total touchdowns in three games.

In the division championship game, he had three or four touchdowns. It was literally boom touchdown, boom touchdown, boom touchdown. Came back a week later, more touchdowns, and now Rex Burkhead was there. But they wrote Sony Michelle as their true, tried and true running back. You have the Super Bowl boom touchdown again, tried and true running back. He is the guy now in ppor leagues. I get it. He's never gonna be the past catch in his offense. Never.

That's James White, and we're gonna get to him in a moment because I think he's under value it alsot. But Sony Michelle is going to be the running back. He's going to scoring the touchdowns. Rex Berg heads there. It's annoying. I I get that. That's fine. That's why he's going a little bit later than the guys we just talked about with Kennyan Drake. But Sony Michelle is the running back. He is the volume guy. More often

than not, he's the guy on the goal line. And Frank and Eric will point out to you, well, he's battling under the knee injury and they just drafted Damien Harris out of college. That's true, But Sony Sony Michelle was a first round draft pick, not three years ago or four years ago, even two years ago. Last year. He was a first round traffic last year and he did that. They're giving up on him for Damian Harris

one year later. You're wrong, Sony Michelle, y s talent, and I think he's another player being undervalue by the fantasy community this far. I think you keep saying something. The only thing wrong you're saying is is he is? He is? He was that last year. This, I think you guys can both agree, is the most most maddening group of running backs to own in fantasy football. Has been like this for eight or ten years. You never know who's going to get the ball. Okay, last year, yes,

uh he was. When he was on, he was, he was good. Burkehead was hurt. He was hurt. James White is the past catcher, but week to week game the game, you never know if he's going to get workload. They could come in and know that the team they're playing, the Dolphins are terrible at covering the running backs. In the passing game, Sony Michelle will not touch the ball

more than ten or fifty times. So that I mean, if you want to roll the dice and draft him where he's where he's being drafted and maybe have a running back six of the time, feel free. I'm not arguing that Sony Michelle is a great running back when

he has the ball. But the truth is, with the New England Patriots and Bill Belichick, he has proven year after year you never know the opportunity is there, but will he get it or will it be Birkhead or will it be Harris, or will it be White or will they not run the ball and throw the ball hunter times? This is what he does. This is what the New England Patriots do. They scheme against you and and you never know week to week. So if you if you want to do that, go ahead. I'm not

going to do that because it makes me nuts. Drafting Harris. Drafting Harris is playing their hand to say they're worried if you drafted running back in the first round, and the following year you draft a running back early again, they're worried. That's what that says. I don't give a crap what anybody says. They're worried about his knees. They're worried about him being healthy. If they weren't, they wouldn't

draft a running back high again. Yeah, and I'm closer to where e Y is when it comes to them do drafting Damien Harris greg I can make the case four and against Sony Michelle. The number to know what Sony Michelle is eighteen. He saw eighteen or more carries in six games last season. He scored a touchdown in five out of six of those games. In all of those games that he scored a touchdown, the Patriots won by double digits. So if you're good at predicting game flow,

then Sony Michelle is your guy. Same thing in the postseason. He saw at least eighteen carries in each of those games. What do you know he scored a touchdown in each one of those games. He has six touchdowns. Tell you more about why you don't want Sony Michelle. We get that. We'll also hear about why you shouldn't want James White

and Julius Settlement, Julius Julius, Julian Edelman going out next. Hey, thanks for downloading the podcast, and remember, if you want to listen live, download the Heart Radio app, download the tune and app and just search for Fantasy Sports Radio Network and you could listen to this program live. Also, if you want to watch the video of this podcast, check us out on YouTube, all on Twitch, or on Periscope and type in you guess did Fantasy Sports Network.

You'll find us there. Enjoy the show and thanks for listening. All Right, before we hit the break, we're talking about Tony Michelle and I believe he is a strong fantasy commodity. You do not believe that, Frank, Yeah, I mentioned the number before the break. To know what Tony Michelle was eighteen in the In the six games where he saw eighteen or more carries, he scored a touchdown in five

of those. You saw three more games in the postseason with eighteen plus carries, he scored a touchdown and all of those. I just don't know how realistic it is for him to get eighteen plus carries in a game this season. I understand the Patriots want to run the football, or at least they are going to paint the image that they want to run the football and then probably do something completely different because as they said, that's what

the New England Patriots do. But the Pats finished eighth in rush rush percentage last season, so that tells me at least last year they really wanted to run the football. And Tom Brady is one year older, so overall I think they want to. I think that's why they went out and got Damien Harris. And while we're on that topic again, I agree with e Y. I think if you draft a running back in the first round, you come back the next year and you use a third

round pick on an all purpose running back. And Damian Harris that's what he's been described as, that's what I've seen out of him, is that he can be a three down running back. It just throws another wrench in the mix for the New England Patriots backfield. I don't have a problem taking any of these guys in best ball Greg and maybe just straight up in a full PPR league, I'll take James White because we know what

his role is. But in just your standard Redraft League trying to plug in a Patriots running back on a weekly basis. It is one of the most frustrating things in fantasy football. I do love Damian Harris right now in Best Ball too, because it wouldn't surprise me if at some point, like he has some monster games. The Patriots constantly turned out um rushing touchdowns year in and year out from their running backs. He's probably gonna be in that makes at some point, we just don't know when.

So that's why I really like him for Best Ball, because he's going the latest out of the three running backs who I think are fantasy viable. Now, you mentioned James White, and I think everybody's right in saying that week so weet it's going to be annoying. But you also said that James White, we know his role and there is no competition for his role like it's James White.

And I was looking at the Patriots last night and I'm quite frankly wondering who Tom Brady is going to throw too, because you have James White and you had Julian Edelman. When he gets both of them just right now, whateppen to that's to kill Harry. It's two Marius Thomas. It's dontrelle in in Matt Lacosse. How Dad, you forget him? Greg,

He's a little Matt Lacosse. That's it. I believe Brady is going to heavily rely upon James White and Julian Edelman, and I don't know, Frank, that their current A DPS reflect where they or how valuable they will be to their team. James White is going back to back with Sony Michelle. It's twenty five, twenty six pick pick fifty one and fifty two. That's in the NFCC, which is a full point pp a full point PR. So when you say that out loud, how ridiculous is that sound?

That they're going back to back, Like James White should be far away, going ahead of Sony Michelle in full point PPR leaks. Sony Michelle had eleven targets last year and seven receptions. You need him to score touchdowns at a rapid pace, and I just don't know that he's gonna be healthy enough to do so. I don't think anybody knows right now. Julian Edelman is going at pick thirty six, basically the end of the third round, early fourth round. His wide receiver rank is in the NFFC fifteen. Okay,

I was actually higher than I thought it was. To be honest with you, I still don't have a problem with it at all. No, Ey, how inner you are, how you or you on James White and Julian Edelman. I think PPR like you said, like he of course he's a value, he's proven that year over year. But but anywhere else, I feel like, I mean, you just don't know what his usage is going to be, and

that's scary. Like, I mean, they're the Patriots, They're going to win football games, are going to win the division again, they're probably play for the super Bowl again, and everyone's tired of it. But I mean, until you can beat them, that's just the way it's going to be for me. James White is about right where his ADP is. I think I probably have him a little bit behind that. Even you just have to adjust depending on what lead you're drafting. And if it's a four point PPR, then

he's a value. Other than that, I mean, he doesn't he doesn't run the ball, barely ever runs the ball. So and then if you're telling me you're a sony Michelle fan, and he's going to touch the ball eighteen to twenty times or twenty times or more, and he's the bell cow. Then how can James White beyond the field too? They don't play to two running back sets that they never do that and they go back and forth. But week to week, I mean, it's it's a dark throw and I don't I just don't want it on

my team. I would have to agree with you, Greg that given the fact that Gronk is now gone, and there are a bunch of numbers that show that when Gronk is not on the field, Julian Edelman's targets go up, his receptions go up, his receiving yards go up, his touchdowns go up. Everything goes up across the board for Julian Edelman when Gronk is not on the field, And I think we started to see some of that last year. Even with Gronk on the field, he was a shell

of himself last season. He just clearly was not nearly as effective as he has been in years past. And we saw that with Julian Edelman's usage. When he returned from Week five on till the rest of the season, he was a top ten wide receiver. He finished his wide receiver nine and half PPR from weeks five on last season once he returned from that suspension. And you know, while we're talking about Edelman, will bring up James White because again I agree with you, Greg, I don't know

that Tom Brady has dependable targets. How often have we seen a rookie wide receiver come in and have a massive impact for the New England Patriots. Oh wait, it's it doesn't happen often. It's Rock and Aaron Hernandez worked but different positions. But nik look, Nikil Harry. I think he's a talented receiver. I think that they needed a big bodied receiver on the outside, someone who can help

them a little bit more in the red zone. But while we're talking about red zone, James White finished top ten last year in red zone targets and Julian Edelman was just behind him. Julian Edelman finished top twelve and red zone targets last year. He missed four games. What does that tell you about his usage moving into this season. I don't think that you could just look at years past and say Julian Edelman is has you know, he's pigeonholed as this PPR wide receiver, he's not want to

catch touchdowns. We have to project forward. That was in the past when Gronk was on the field, when he was their red zone weapon. Last season again, Edelman top twelve and red zone targets, and he missed four weeks of the season. So I think that the touchdowns weren't as flukey as they were last year for Julian Edelman. I think that that's probably going to be a real thing for him moving forward, because I don't know who else Tom Brady is going to trust in the red zone.

Greg He clearly has a very good rapport with both James White and Julian Edelman. Is James White counna scored twelve total touchdowns again this year? No, probably not, but he finished as what a top eight running back. He's not being drafted as a top eight running back. So in a in a PPR league, I have no problem whatsoever with James White as my flex running back in that similar range as Terrico and and I would probably

lean James White overtree. Let me throw this at both of you, though, what about the half point PPR is more and more people are playing in that half point PPR. We talked about standard PPR all the time in the value what about the half point e y when it comes two guys that are major players in the quantity game, when it comes to receptions in Edelman and White, what

do you do with him in the half point PPR? Yeah, obviously he's worth more than he is in a standar in a standard I'm not touching James White, He's completely worthless. I mean basically, in a half point PPR, he's he's valuable. Half points add up, especially like you said with Gronk Gun it's it's proven in the past that his receptions will go up, so you know that's that's their their short distance mid range reception. Guy Edelman does that too.

But like Frank said, he last year was definitely used on the goal line and in the red zone, and I think he's going to be used there again. Bill Belichick very seldomly trust rookies. I think last year, you know, Michelle was an exception, But I don't know if burke Head didn't get hurt, if Michelle would have got that much work. Fregy half point PPR, what do you think?

I still don't mind James White as my flex. I wouldn't want him as my RB two in a half point PPR if you start your draft zero running backs. If you start with like three wide receivers in a row or two running backs on one of the elite tight ends, and you end up with, you know, James White, there is your r B two. You can probably make

it work. I mean, there are many different ways to win in fantasy football, but me personally, I would feel better with James White as my flex option in both half point and full point PPR um just because I don't know how many touchdowns he's going to score overall. I mean, look, he scored tall total touchdowns last year. It's just it's gonna be really really hard for him to come close to that number. And I agree with with E. Y and standard or non PPR, like, James

White is still going to score. If I had to predict, like, he's probably gonna end up with like anywhere from six to eight touchdowns this year, maybe like one or two on the ground and like five or five or six through the air. Probably something like that for James White. So that's not completely useless, but he does take a big hit in non PPR leagues that's James White. Yeah. Absolutely. Now I believe Ben Watson is suspended with her four games a year right with New England. He resigned there

to replace Rob Gronkowski. Uh, Frankie mentioned nikkil Harry's Marius Thomas is coming off his own major injury. That's why it's just more and more on Julian Edelman. But before we wrap up the Patriots, I have to ask about Tom Brady. Because Brady forever was a a top five drafted quarterback, the goat, he's the greatest quarterback of all time. But right now in the NFFC, he's the twenty second

quarterback off the board. That is making him barely a QB two, somebody that cost you, well, almost nothing in drafts to get. I understand taking the name of the back of the jersey, frank and you're all about that, understandably so, but twenty two for Brady seems incredibly low here. I think it just seems low because we've played fantasy football for so long. We've seen the years where Tom Brady was the elite fantasy football quarterback. It's just let's

be realistic with ourselves. This guy's going to be four two years old. When the season starts. Mind you, he's still in you know, maybe better shape than some of the other quarterbacks that are in the league. Does phenomenal job of keeping himself in good shape. But he is forty two years old, and last year he finishes QB seventeen and Fantasy points per games. So I don't know that the upside is still there. As I mentioned earlier, I think that the Patriots they understand what Brady is

at this point. I don't think that they want to force him to throw the ball all that much. I'm sure that there's going to be games where it's a little bit more up and down, competitive games where he does have to throw the ball more. But ultimately I think that they want to rely on the running backs. That's why, you know, they continue to have one of the best offensive lines in the league. That's why they bring in a Damien Harris, they still have uh Sony Michelle,

they still have James White. They're gonna rely heavily on those running backs. I just don't know that they're going to have to ask Tom Brady frankly Greg to do much more than what he did last year, which barely made him a top twenty quarterback and fantasy points for games, and if they don't ask him to do more, that's gonna be a lot of James White, James White, James White, James White. Plus he's historically been much better with drawn f on the field as well, so he can't down

play that. But look, if you play in a super flex league, I think you can do a lot worse than Tom Brady. You know, if I took one of these upside shots as my QB one, someone who has a lot of risk. Cam Newton has a ton of upside this year, but also has the injury risk. Kyler Murray has a ton of upside this year, but he's a rookie, so inherently that comes with risk as well.

If I took one of those quarterbacks as my quarterback one in a super flex league, that's a situation where I would not mind taking Tom Brady as my second quarterback or as my super flex quarterback to kind of balance out that volatility that you have in your quarterback one. Are you drafting Tom Brady? Eric Probably not. I mean, like he they showed last year that, I mean, they're just not They're not wanting to rely on him like they did it. And it's not because he's not good.

That's just not what they do. They they just beat you however they can. And it's not about Tom having to make all the throws. With the Patriots though, like I said earlier, I mean they could come out this year and he could score forty five touchdowns. I mean they're good enough to do that. If they decide they want to do that, I think they could. UM. But having that that talent and at running back, I think that shows their hand. You can't ever listen to what

any team says. You could only pay attention to what they do. And by drafting Sony Michelle last year number one and Harris this year, keeping burkehead, keeping White, they're saying we're going to run the ball, we're going to be ahead, we're going to play good defense, and we're going to keep the ball and we're going to win. That's what they do. UM. Now, that doesn't translate to fantasy, especially at the quarterback position last year, and I think

that's what they're going to do again this year. But he slid, I mean as all as it gets, and I think he's probably the best quarterback to ever play. Will do you a break here. When we come back, we have our three questions in three minutes segment with e L asked me three questions about the two teams that we talked about, and we'll wrap up previous of course with in Miami Dolphins and the New England Patriots, and we'll move on to the action hour. Here all

the BFFs. That's Eric Young, that's Frank Stample, I'm Greg sous will take our break. We'll be back just at the moments. From the NFL to the NBA. Daily Rodo dot Com is the place to win millions in daily Fantasy. You can get the best DFS NFL coverage all season long for a price of one, or dominate the entire Daily Fantasy Sports realm with the Elite package a month. If you use the promo code f n t s Y,

you get ten percent off your Daily Rodo package. Go to Daily Rodo dot com, pick your NFL Elite Package, enter promo code f n t s Y, and you'll be on your way to becoming the next Daily Rhodo millionaire. Three questions, three minutes, Final three of the Fantasy Program. Frank Stafle, Greg Sussman, Eric Young, Let's get right to we only have three minutes to go. Well, you know, ask both of you guys the question question number one, outside of Julian Edelman and James White, what which past

catcher in New England do you want the most? Frank, we start with you. I know, I just sat here in bass Mikill Harry, but the opportunity for him to be a starting wide receiver for the New England Patriots on the outside and potentially do some work in the red zone is still there for him. Um. I don't love rookie wide receivers with the Patriots, but if I had to choose one after those guys, it would be

nik Hill, Harry Eric. It's Matt Lacost for me. I mean, they've proven that they want to throw to the tight end. And uh, I don't think he's not going to be Gronk. He's never going to be wrong, but I feel like he could be a touchdown guy. And with tight ends like, look, there's four or five that you want to own and then the rest of it is roll the dice and close your and hope. Fun fact, I took Matt la coss is my third tight end in a Best Ball

draft last night. Nice Frankie, not really, but thanks Greg, you got it. Funny question number two, Speaking on the tight end, Frank mantioning, Mike Kasecki was in early round draft pick last year four Miami never really got the opportunity with his new coaching staff, and there isn't much talent there in Miami. Mike Aseck U I be a fantasy commodity. Yeah, I think now I have him as a tight end sleeper. I took him in a bunch of Bestball leagues so far already, Um the coach worked

with the Patriots. They know how to scheme tight ends open and use them. This guy has every intangible that a tight end needs. He's fast, he can catch, he's good after after the catch. He's got all the tools. And I mean someone's going to catch the ball. They're they're going to have me throwing. They're going to be behind, and it could be him. He's a he's a dice roll. But in a basketball or or you know your last draft pick, you'll know a week one or two whether

he's going to be figured in. I agree with you, why I don't mind him as your tight end two or three in a Best Ball draft. If Josh Rosen is the quarterback. He probably needs a safety blanket to lean on. That might be Mike Kasecky Question number three or final question, final minute of the Fantasy Hour, and that is regards to DeVante Parker or fans. At some point this season, will fantasy owners be freaking out about DeVante Parker once again? Frank probably yes, yes, in a

good way. I think that this is it for him. I think he's got something to prove and UH, with a new coaching staff there, he's going to show that he is he is who we've always thought he was. Here you go, he's Eric Young. That was three questions in three minutes. Frank and e Y will be back for Fantasy to talk tomorrow. When we come back, move on to the Action Hour here on the BFFs. Couldn't

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