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Unit Yeah. Now welcome b app your Fiday from Ragni god bro say Francis practice stand ball ladies and gentlemen, your BFFs and with that we will give you inside Studio four. This is the BFFs. He is Frank Stample. I am Greg e Y today essentially no e Y ever after we stop his ass into the ground this weekend, Frankie, Yeah, it's gonna be a fun matchup. It's the BFF showdown. Little smack talk yesterday between making sure my micro was

on because you're looking at me. I'm just looking at because had I had that happened the other day and when it to happen again. But yeah, a nice little matchup between e Y and ourselves. We have a little wager on this matchup, and I was not here for this wage, all right, So when I listened to it back, here's what I gathered. If we beat e Y, he will pay for our flight and an expenses paid trip to visit him in Nashville last year next to next year for a fantasy football summit. We will be staying

with him. I would assume. Sure, that's awesome. I'm perfectly fine with that. And if e Y beats us, then we pay for his hotel tickets for him to stay in New York City for I don't know, let's say a weekend, all right, So let's say one room each we have to pay for, so one room combined that we have to pay for for him, and he has to pay for all of our expenses, he said, expenses expenses paid trip. So I'm on board. You on board? Yeah,

we gotta set the right line. But now I'm really focused on this line up, like I'm staring at it, and I don't know that I agree with some of the things you've done in here. All right, Well, we can talk about it either on error off. Whatever you want on the air makes the most sense, right or setting lasts trying to beat e. Y Uh you'r we can't really talk about our strategy he on the show because he's gonna listen back to the show. He can't

do anything to fix it. You're not wrong. Why are we not starting James White and are starting the Davis Murray? I do know. Actually they're gonna run the ball again. They don't need they don't need James White. Yeah, I don't know. I feel weird about James White. Let's talk about it right now. I had him as one of my uh tougher matchups that I didn't get to on the previous show, The Fantasy Football Frenzy, with Jim and George Kurtz even trying to bench James White everywhere we've

had him. I just don't know how to feel about James White this week, especially if Antonio Brown plays. We're talking about now they have three legitimate wide receivers in their offense, and look, I understand. I just went on this whole monologue basically last hour about predicting gameflow and how it's you know, pretty hard to predict game flow on a weekly basis in the NFL. You don't normally see nineteen point spreads in the NFL. The Dolphins looked

dreadful last week. The Patriots were clicking on all cylinders. I just don't know how much they're going to need James White, Greig. I understand that in order to be winning by that much, they have to score points. Sure, so James White can score I guess during that time. But I just see this as like a bounced back performance for Sony Michelle, and I still see them using

Rex burkehead as well. James White to me as someone, you know, I want to get him in in games that I think are going to be competitive, back and forth, off tempo. I don't know that the Patriots are gonna need to use him all that much. Am I overthinking it? Yes? Because like Lettas Murray kind of touchdown dependent. Frank, you're banging on him scoring in touchdown against the Rams just got ripped by Christian Mcamchristian McCaffrey. Murray is not Christian McCaffrey.

He's not, but he also plays on one of the best offenses in the league that has led the league in rushing touchdowns each of the past few year. And by the way, he scored a rushing touchdown in a Week one he did, but he had six carries total. I'm just saying, but this was a back and forth affair where they started passing, where they started passing the ball late. I I just think, no, look, it's probably gonna be a back and forth of air against the

Rams as well. But my thinking here is I think that the Rams are the Saints rather are going to try and keep the Rams offense off the field. I think that they're really going to try and run the football a ton in this one with Alvin Kamara and Lottavius Murray. It's close. Look, if you want James White James White, it's it's close for me. I mean we could talk about other people we have. We have Darren Darren Waller in as our flex. I mean we could

start James White over Darren Waller if you want. I don't want to do that, like you like Darren want. I guess the Chiefs, Yeah, they're gonna need someone to catch the ball in that. I like the Darren Waller idea. All right, Look, if you want to go James White over Lottavius Murray and you believe the final call up to you, that close of a call where if you feel that strongly about it. It's fine. I have these players closely ranked for me. When it's a toss up,

I go with Latavius Murray. I personally, I think that the Saints are gonna try and play keep away from the Rams this week, and I think Ottavius Murray gets double digit carries and potentially scores the other touchdown this week. Alright, So I don't know that James White's gonna score touchdowns. So it's very hard to predict receiving touchdowns for running backs, Craig. It's hard enough to just predict touchdowns, it's harder to

predict receiving touchdowns. That's where James White excels. I'm trying to find out Blake Beeley's rankings here as well. That I don't trust you. You're luckily for you. I have them open pretty much all the time. I have Lake's rankings out of here right now as well. Uh. And as I look James White here, uh, he does have him eight spots higher than Tavis Murray. He does, so I mean it's not that far off. They're both flex options. I'm gonna store James Winner with Tavias Murray, all right, sure,

I mean, look the Dolphins defense is very bad. I mean it could be just you know, one reception that James White takes to the house needs one A right, he's one touchdown. I just I thought it was closer. Just my personal opinion. Davis Murray at twenty nine. I have James White at thirty one, so they're not far. This is a full point of the art league correct, half PPU half point. That's why you know, changes things a little bit. Changes are My rankings are half PPR rankings.

So I have these players ranked very closely with those change things should be starting D D. Westbrook not overthinking things. I think you are. Yes, D D. Westbrook should be in our line up. I like you just talking a lot about random, but I also like D. D. Westbrook's matchup and he led the team in target chair Whence Gardner Mins who came in last week, So I think he's still gonna be the top guy. What do we started Murray over D D. Westbrook. I don't want to

do that. I don't want to do that. I think that the Jaguars are likely playing from behind against the Texans in this one um and the Texans defense could be had, especially through the air. I am not worried about the Texans secondary at all, so especially in a half PPR, I would take D D. Westbrook over Latavius Murray. It's also close. We have a lot of close causes cause we're gonna work ourselves into a pretzel here and I have the Paiti flight hotel. Well, what are the

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com proudly made in America. When you're asking me, do I start Hardman? Hardman over all these other guys that we've all preseason have had higher I'm saying, no Guardman until we see it. If he comes out this week, it has a great week. Fine, But there's just nothing we have to go on that suggests that Right now, I know Hill is gonna miss four to six weeks and that may be hard men time, but don't be surprised if the Vet Marcus Robinson is the first guy

to step up here. Watch Live week Days Wanted to be an Eastern on Sumo TV Channel seven nineteen. We're back here on the bffc's Frank, I'm Greg. It's week two, man, it's week two NFL season. A lot of starts, sick questions for ourselves, our own team. I have it for my team as well, like teams that I don't share with you, which is rare. We have questions. We gotta

we gotta make sure you make the right answers. Man. Yes, we're gonna try and get some of those answers a little bit later on when Virginia joins us SO the show from inside. Injuries, a lot of injuries obviously this week to go over us broke broke yesterday after we got off the air. To regarding Hunter Henry, obviously he's gonna be out four to six weeks. Mike Williams looks like he's kind of week to week right now. They don't know what his status is gonna like for this week.

So there's a lot going on in a lot of questions we need answers. Can I ask you about my own teams? First? Yeah? I care. I can help you off the air. Greg, Why do you have to help me off the air? Ask me thin people have the same questions? Sure, let's go. Okay, Um, in a super flexy, would you rather start Jimmy G or Matthew Stafford? I will go with Jimmy Garoppolo? All right? So you and

jim Sanna's both a great spful. It's very close for me though, they're both barely inside my top twenty quarterbacks. For I have Jimmy g in a super flex as well, So I feel your pain. Yeah, you know in a super flex you don't have that many options. Certainly I have Gardner Minshew. Would you use Gardner Minshew over Jimmy Garoppolo? No, No, I'm not either. Stafford is at least close? Um, would you start Lashawn McCoy or you don't like to pick this guy out? So I know your answer? Right? You

McCoy is Ted Gin? Yes, it looked a little bit more so. All right, here's this story. So I was going over like some on my super flex team, like I had no wide receivers. I had a bunch of crappy running backs and dropped them all. I dropped every single one of them. So now I have a bunch of like crappy wide receivers, like some of which like you could pop off Kenny Stills. We saw a score touchdown last week and picked Deon Kaneop who franks out. It's a good pick up, who knows what he could

be without Devin Funches. And then I picked up Ted Gain because he had seven targets, seven receptions this past Monday night, more targets and he had all of last season. And the thing with Ted Gain was that he's the number two wide receiver playing more snaps than Trake Kuan Smith. And as much as everybody wants to get hyped about Trake Kuan Smith, Ted Gain is still the guy. So I picked him up, and Jim Sannas really likes him.

This week over at Fan Duel, I'm like, all right, maybe I have a guy that could be a plug and play. And Frank's like Ted Gears. I'm never gon Ted Ginner like all right, like I thought it was a fine Nicko's like two favor bucks on him. No big deal. And now Frank, you're saying, let to do a little bit. I looked into him last night, and I looked at the snap counts and the target counts, and it would heavily in favor of Ted in so forty snaps to forty two for trade quantum, it's seven

targets for Ted Gainey caught all seven of those as well. Uh, And you know we could see some points here in his game between the Saints and the Rams. Fifty two point total. That's the second highest total on the slate so far this week. But if I remain consistent with my thought process, greg, I think that we're going to see a heavy dose of Alvin Kamara and Latavius Murray in this one. And when those guys are not involved, we still get a lot of Michael Thomas. So we

know what Ted gain is. He's very volatile, he's boom er bust. But I guess in these higher point total games, these are probably the games that you want to look at Ted gain I will also say this, Ted gain in his career has also been much better inside of the dome with Drew Brees when they play at home. This game will actually be across the country, the West Coast outdoors against the Los Angeles Rams, all those things combined, Greg,

I see why you picked up Ted Gain. You might be able to stream him some bye weeks when he's at home, but overall this I would be a little bit worried about him. All Right, I'm gonna use McCoy there in that spot. So I want to do a sell what I'm gonna call second wave, and that's gonna be the once through the main fab has run what guys are left and and who got dropped and who got dropped. I have an NFC league where Corey Davis got dropped last night. I'm not a Corey Davis fan,

but he should be owned in a twenty roster spot league. Greg, he Corey Davis drops in my league as well. Yeah, I'm not thinking about because he sucks. Honestly, I don't think that he sucks, but he certainly has not had a good rapport with Marcus Mario. Do I ever want to play Corey Dames? I hate Corey. He's gonna be a bye week replacement. I was not high on Corey Davis coming into the year. I still think he's talented,

but let's actually give Denzel Awards some credit. Last week, Denzel Award is one of the best up and coming cornerbacks in the league, and last week Greg he shadowed Corey Davis one of his routes, which led to obviously zero receptions for Corey Davis. I think, you know, while Corey Davis hasn't performed to the level we've expected him to, I want to give some at the denzil Ward. I think he played a hell of a game where days get picked up and leave that he was dropped. Who

was on your bench in that league? And this in the Corter League where Corey Davis got dropped by Geronimo Allison team. Yeah, I mean, that's that's close. I'd probably rather have Corey Davis over Jeronim but it's close. A yeah, I know it's close. You know, it's not like a slam dunk by any means. Yeah. So in that same league, actually Carlos Hydeways job for some reason, it's interesting. Yeah, I mean, especially if you're Duke Johnson or Worth throwing.

For sure, I'm not running backs on explosive offenses. I'm not. But I still like where Carlos high because he's the main running back there, main ish Ish I'll take it. Yeah, all right, So second wave in one day. I want to throw out a couple of guys. You let me know your level of interest that people should pick them up, depending on who they have to drop ready. He Sean Johnson had ten targets for the Arizona Cardinals this past Sunday.

Interesting in Keishan Johnson. I am interested in Keishaw Johnson, but more so in deeper leagues. All the players that we mentioned this week as pickups that are probably is still available for your second wave as well. Like I'd rather have Randall cob over him a few of the other slot receivers, I'd rather have Cold Beasley. But I

am definitely intrigued by Keishaan Johnson. I want to pay attention to this problem with Keishawn Johnson, and really all of the Cardinals wide receivers are that are they gonna throw the ball fifty four times per week? Greg? And they run four wide receiver slect slots very often. They did it a ton last week. You know, Keisha Johnson

was on the field a lot. Demere Bird was on the field a lot, as was Larry Fitzgerald and Christian Kirk, it seems like, you know, heading into this week, Michael Crabtree is going to overtake Demere Bird for one of those you know, four wide receiver slot. Uh, not just slot slot roles, but just roles in general. I like Keishan Johnson, but I think predicting who is going to get the targets on a weekly basis for Arizona is going to be very difficult. Okay, So like don't love

in regards to Keshan Johnson. That's fair, all right. Cole Beasley nine targets this past week, five receptions forty yards, pretty much a prototypical Cole Beasley outing. Interesting, Yeah, I'm interested it, especially against this New York Giants defense. Uh, they allowed a slot touchdown to Randall Cobb last week. Their secondary outside of Genora's Jenkins is not good, and I guess you can even argue that Generora's Jenkins has fallen off over the past couple of years. So I

like cold Beasley. You know, say, floor PPR option probably better once by weeks come into play. You know, I don't if you've play in a wide three wide receiver league right now, one flights, he's probably not cracking your lineup, but I do like him more than Keyshaw Johnson. Would you rather own Cole Beasley or tray Quinn? I would rather own That's a fair question because they're very similar bolt slot receivers for their respective teams, both questionable quarterback play.

I would probably go with tray Quinn. It's close. I lean, I lean tray Quinn. I think the target chair will be a little bit more consistent for him. And he will face the Giants twice this year, Yes, he will. He will face the Giants twice this year. Um, rex Birkhead still out there for some people. Of course, in the second wave. You know what Rex Burkehead did? He get forty yards on the ground, forty yards through the air. Interested in Rex Burkhead in deeper leagues? This is one's

a lot like Keyshawn Johnson. Different position, but kind of similar makeup if you look at it. When it comes to the Patriots running backs, we don't know who it's going to be on a weekly basis. That's why we say, you know, draft Patriots running backs in best ball. That's fine because they're gonna have big weeks. You can't necessarily predict when it's going to happen. So I want exposures

to this Patriots offense in deeper leagues. Yes, Rex Burkhead should be owned, But when it comes to overreacting to let's say Rashad Penny not being used in week one or other really good handcuffs like Tony Pollard, I'm gonna hold onto those players over Rex Burkhead. Greg last one in the second wave for today, Paul Richardson, who had seven targets for Washington this past week, only four for

thirty six. But he's a starting wide receiver. I know all the attention has going to McLaurin, and we just spoke about Trey Quinn very briefly. Paul regests in any interest. I don't have much interest in Paul Richardson, to be honest. I think most weeks he's gonna be either third or fourth in the pecking order when it comes to target. It's I think a lot of the times those targets are gonna be occupied by Trey Quinn and Terry McLaurin and the tight end. I mean, this Jake Cruden offense

is one that likes to use the tight end. No Vernon Davis has been in and out of the line up the past couple of years. He's still in concussion protocol. This week questionable, but even last week we saw Vernon Davis have a pretty big game, So I think most weeks, Greg Paul Richardson is probably third or fourth in the pecking order for targets on a team that is quarterbacked by case Keenum, So there's not really much upside there.

And that's this week's second wave of free agents. Like that segments the segment, Yeah, I appreciate that, right, good trying to do my job on the show. When we come back after the break, we're gonna be joined by Virginia'sckice. We have a lot of injuries to get to you, and I'm very excited for the start of this segment. We will mention your team. Frank, that's the year Jets. Do you think I was going to avoid this topic for next I was wondering when it was gonna pop

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Here is Virginia millionaires or something? I missed, Craig, I I just threw it past there. She responds, I kept going fair enough. I know you have a very important questions that you want to ask, Virginia. This is obviously breaking news today. Uh, how does a twenty two year old quarterback at Monto? That's a great question. I'm gonna let you answer that one for yourself. Yeah. I think he's going to be out for at least a few weeks. Unfortunately,

it's very interesting because he's already lost five pounds. He's quarantined in his apartment in New York City, and it's really surprised to me, Virginia, to be honest with you, is that more players don't get mano? Like, how does nobody get mono? I mean, listen, football players arena do what they do. Not all of it is right of worse than the bow ground. But this is not a This is not a new thing like Joe Naman somehow never got mana. Yet here we are. You might have

something else. Sam Donald getting mono and he's out for the next three weeks. Yeah, he's not gonna play the next two weeks and then they have a week four by so this team is starting o win six. Let's just call it for what it is. Greg, I'm sorry, Frank, don't be sorry. Yeah, he did it for themselves and Adam Gaze sucks. I was having Gaze's fault. That Adam Gaze's fault, that rule would have prevented motto from Sam Donald. Adam Gaze was clubing with Sam Donald's. I'm convinced. All right,

let's ask actually relevant things now. This is important people who wanted to know this. It's important to me. It's probably not important to anybody else. I don't know about that, right, I don't know about that. Let's let's talk about relevance and that I mentioned it um the breaker to the end of the samement Darius Guys. I have no shares of Darius Guys, and I feel good about that because he's headed for surgery or just had surgery on his quote unquote good knee towards a c L in training

camp last year. It took a long time to come back from it. He was healthy so much so ap he was enacted this past Sunday. It was a Darius Guys show outside of the third Downs with Christ Thompson, and he couldn't handle it. And I wondered, Virginia if it has to do with over compensation on that good knee. Now it hurts meniscus, he has surgery. What can you

tell us about Darius? Guys. Yeah, I was pretty concerned when they were gonna, you know, ready to just kind of throw him right into it, um and give him a full workload week one. It was not smart. Um. Not only did he tears a c L, but then he had all of those infections, which of course slows down their recovery. UM. I do think this injury happened because he his body was just not on and he did too much too soon. UM. Now it's looking like he's going to have surgery, and if he does, it's

a six to eight week recovery time. UM. We've also been getting some questions, you know, why isn't it but two to four week recovery time Like we've heard some players in the past when they've had, you know, just a little meniscus tramp him or a little clean up procedure to the knee. UM, that likely means this is a bit more of a serious meniscus tear. UM. When you have surgery, there's two options. You can either trim

it or you can repair it. If they're going to repair the meniscus, it would likely be a season ending injury. So you know, if it's a smaller tear, it can be trimmed, but still you can need a couple of months to cover. Um. You know, in the long run, in a weird way, maybe this is a good thing for him, if he really gets the time to continue

to rehab strength in his lower body. UM. But I think it's it's gonna be a while before we see him, and I would expect them to place him on i R with the possibility to return if his recovery goes well. Washington has not ruled out that possibility of placing Darius Guys on the i R. Adrian Peters was a popular way Wire pick up this week, understandably, So, I mean, he's going to get the majority of the early down work here. I think you'll see a lot of what

you saw last year in games where Washington's winning. You can see a lot of ap what they're gays that they're losing. He's gonna be very ineffective. You see more Christ Thompson, Darius Guys unfortunately out for the near future. I acknowledge that this could be an overreaction to the situation. But I'm starting to question if we're ever going to see Darius Guys at full strength at just given everything

that he's gone through so far Virginia. Yesterday, when we got off the air, we had some breaking news regarding Hunter Henry. Last year, he was returning from a torn a c L. Now he is dealing with another knee injury. Quote not a knee and is a kne injury. I guess it is yeah to be a plateau fracture to his left knee and he's gonna be out four to six weeks. I Am not a doctor, but a four to six week timetable seems a little optimistic. What do you have regarding Hunter Henry? Yeah, four to six weeks

is very optimistic for this injury. Um, of course, there's different severities of this injury. This is the same thing that J. J. Watt suffered last year, but his was far more severe. He needed surgery right away. Um. Henry doesn't look like he's gonna need surgery right now. Um, but this is another situation where they really should just put him on I R let him take at least eight weeks to get healthy. UM for to six weeks

is not going to be enough time. Even if this is a very small fracture or a hairline fracture, it's just not enough time. UM. This is it's pretty unlucky. I actually don't think this is related at all to the torn a c L from last year. UM, you know,

this is just one of those unfortunate situations. But um our algorithm is showing a minimum of seven weeks before he starts to go full speed, and then after that it would mean another, um, you know, two to four additional weeks to really um start sprinting, cutting on his leg, jumping, doing all those things that you know you need to

be comfortable with if you're going to play football. So I think it should be a while before we see Henry, and I really hope they don't bring him back in four to six weeks because if they do, you will be at a very high risk of suffering another injury. So Hunter Henry another player that couldn't possibly going I R here and maybe come back. Right, you don't have

an i R spot in your league? Are you dropping Hunter Henry or who Let's say you got lucky and picked up like a Hockinson or Darren wall you're dropping Hunter Henry, Yes, yeah, I think I half to. Yeah. I mean outside of that, there's not gonna be much available. You're probably looking at you know, Vernon Davis filling in for Jordan Reid, and you can't even look at the backup here. Virgil Green not really known for being much of a pass catcher either. Yeah, So potentially Judy's Lee

for instance, she had Hunter Henry's your daughter. She did get Darren Waller, which is great. Yea. So the next person she's out the waiver wire, probably gonna drop Hunter Henry for that spot. Speaking of players that were hurt this past week, but not going on, I r quite yet the reasons to Tyreek Hill, who left the game after getting fortunately hit by Jalen Ramsey and he heard his shoulders so much so that they couldn't pop right back in. He had to go to a hospital in Jacksonville.

He stayed overnight, went back to Kansas City the next day. We've heard four to six weeks, but what is Tyreek Hill dealing with? And it's four to six weeks? Four to six weeks really realistic. So he suffered a post heior sc dislocation UM. SC joint or the sterner particular joint is right in the front of the chest. UM. It's sort of a chest injury short of a shoulder injury. UM. It's very tough to cause this dislocation. It requires a lot of impact. UM. But when a posterior dislocation occurs,

you worry about UM internal injuries, damage to blood vessels. UM. Fortunately it sounds like he avoided something serious like this, UM. But when the when this injury occurs, it does lead to some instability. UM. It's important to take UH. I'll say at least four to six weeks, but depends on the severity before UM going through any contact drills likely needs even longer than that. I don't think his four

to six week timeline right now is very realistic. UM. You also have to worry about other damage that could have been caused to the shoulder when this occurred, UM, such as you know, a slight labor in tear UM. And then going forward, you have to worry about ligament

lax laxity UM, meaning the ligament stretch out. So it's going to leave him more susceptible to a future either shoulder dislocation, another sc joint dislocation um or other compensiontory injury because he's trying, you know, to protect that area. So I'm very concerned about him. We're showing an optimal recovery time of seven weeks, and again, because that's a pretty long optimal recovery time, we think he needs at least a few weeks after he hits that seven week

mark before he returns and plays in an actual game. Right, Nicole Hardman could end up being one of the best pickups based on this news that we're getting regarding Tyreek Hill. It could come as soon as week too. This week against the Oakland Raiders, who could potentially be without their starting corner Gary and Conley, and they're obviously without Jonathan Abram,

they're starting safety as well. I want to stick in the a f C West and go back to the Los Angeles Chargers Virginia and ask you about Mike Williams. When Anthony Limn was asked about his concern level for Mike Williams's knee, he said, I'm absolutely concerned heading into week two, so you know they I don't know that there's been an official diagnosis for Mike Williams, but you know, what are we speculating on? And you know, is this something that we're gonna have to worry about consistently for

the entirety of the season with Mike Williams. Yeah. Unfortunately, we have very little information right now. UM. We know he didn't practice yesterday. UM. And there's also one quote where he sort of described it as a n tightening up. UM. I never found any signs of a you know, specific time where the injury occurred that could have been. UM,

that looked like any sort of ligament damage. That's promising, But you know, I didn't watch every single snap that he played, so I you know, I'm not totally sure about that. But possible in this situation, it's maybe some cartilage or meniscus damage here. UM, But we really don't know. I think, UM, if we're being very optimistic here, we're looking at a two week optimal recovery time for maybe just a mild n S frame maybe he hyper extended

his knee. But if there is any meniscus damage, we're looking at a much more serious Grade three injury and it could be you know, five, six, seven weeks he's out. So there's very little UM information right now. I'm I'm guessing they've sent him for an m R I because if they're concerned, I don't know why they wouldn't have. But they haven't released anything yet. So hopeing we learn more in the next few days, but I don't think

it's looking very good for a week too. We have just two minutes left, so I want to try to be quick. I know I want to ask you about Tevin Coleman, Frankie wants to ask you about Joe Mixon. Both these guys or her. We know Coleman seems to have a high ankle spray. I don't know what's going on with mixing. Uh, can you feel us in on both these guys? Sure? So, Yeah, Tevin Coleman is dealing with a left high ankle sprain. UM. This is a very concerning injury. It's especially tough for running backs or

even wide receivers. Um. We're showing the minimum optimal recovery time of four to five weeks right now. I don't think we're going to see him until I'll say, maybe week five or six at the soonest Um, even then, this is an injury that tends to nag, it really lingers. It affects everything. Um finding explosiveness. Um, so not good there. Joe Mixon slightly more optimistic. X rays were clean, the

m R I seemed relatively clean. Um. So we're showing the two week optimal recovery time for mixing fantastic news, which comes to Joe Mixon. Hopefully Tevin Coleman comes back sooner rather than later. For us fantasy owners Viginia, we pret the time as always. Let's do it again next week. Awesome, all right, Frankie. When we come back, Thursday night football is upon us. The Panthers against the Bucks, seven point favorites of Caroline will get the job done. Pready that next.

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channel seven nineteen. We're back with you here on the B I ask great question Frankie before we dive into Thursday Football and Every Boss front Tyreek Hill, and we heard from Virginia that you're looking at more like six weeks rather than four to six weeks, and even after that, he's not gonna completely healthy. He showed up to practice today's right arm in a sling? What do you trade Tyreek Hill? Four? Like, yes, it could have major dividends down the live of the team that acquires him. You

also know you're not gonna happen for a while. What do you trade ti a Hill four? You had a very good question. Yeah, we got this question in the YouTube chat from Serm. He asked, do you trade Tyreek Hill for Cooper Cup? And I asked Greg right before we came back from break, and he took a long pause and he thought about it as Yeah, you should, and he said, yeah, I would take Cooper Cup And you know, I think I agree. I think obviously context matters most here. It's you know, who are your other

wide receivers. You know this person actually has Stefon Diggs and Tyler Boyd as well. But I mean, this is a six to seven week injury for Tyreek Hill. There's no saying whether or not he's gonna be himself when he returns. It sounds like something that could be open for re injury as well. And Cooper Cup to saw a ton of targets in Week one, plays in a

really great offense. He doesn't have the upside that Tyreek Hill does obviously, but we're talking about a consistently safe wide receiver too over the next six seven weeks while you have no Tyreek Hill. It's a fair trade. It's a fair question, and I agree that I would take Cooper to Cup if I can get him for Tyree Hill right now. Would you trade Shyree Hill for Tyler Lockett? Yes, trade Hyree Hill for al Shan Jeffrey Alan Robinson. Would you trade Tyree Hill for Calvin Ridley? Mm hm yes.

Would you trade Tyreek Hill or most of this is context to like if you if you're desperate for wide receiver. For example, Greg, I know you have Tyree Kill in the league. If it's you know you're starting Ted Ginn because you lost Tyreek Hill, then yeah, I would trade him for those names that you just mentioned. Yeah, listen, I'm starting in that league where at Tyreek Hill I'm starting. I'm just trying to trade Tyreek Hill for anyone here I'm starting. My wide receivers are Julian Edelman and MVS

as a mess starters. Yeah, like I would try and make a move there. I would love to get a Cooper Cup and I would trust you know, Edelman and Cooper Cups my two wide receiver's weekend and week out. It seems pretty safe, Okay, Alright, No, Tyler Locket and Calvin Ridley, they might be more inconsistent boomer bust type options, but I still have them on that fringe as low end wide receiver two's high end wide receiver threes. Rather have Alan Robinson over those guys right now. Yeah, Alan

Robins looked really good week one. His target chair is gonna be there too. He looked fantastic. Someone in the chat just asked what's wrong with al Sean? I don't know. Is there something wrong with him? I mean, I just wasn't very high on him coming into the year. Alan Robins really looked awesome in week one. Yeah, and look when it comes to alshon Jeffrey, the reason why I was down on him is just there's so many targets in Philadelphia. We just saw last week to Seohan Jackson

had ten targets. I just don't know. Zach Arth is still there, and Miles Sanders is the one that I would throw at you. I don't know that. Calvin Ridley, It's he's more of like a high end wide receiver. Three. Yeah, you uh, take it easy, that's not true. I love I love all wide receivers. It's fine. No, it's three tints game, Greig. Okay, Tonight the Panthers and the Bucks. Seven point dogs are the Bucks in Carolina Tonight. Great stat I read earlier. Jameis Winsteon has not won a

road game since twenty sixteen. In fact, over the last eighteen games, the Bucks are two and sixteen on the road, the only two wins coming with Ryan Fitzpatrick at quarterback. Bucks going to Carolina, the defense that looked better, I think than expected against San Francisco. Uh, Carolina played well against the Rams, lit Cam Newton didn't exactly run as much. Let me start with Carolina. Let me start with Cam Newton because I was admittedly bullish on Cam Newton coming

here this year. I really liked him as a starting quarterback in fantasy. And yet after Week one where's did not see him rush nearly at all, even at the goal line. It was a lot of Christian McCaffrey. It was not Cam just being Cam. You were about that foot injury here a little bit. Would you rather start Frank cam Newton tonight against Tampa Bay or Josh Allen on Sunday against the Giants? Oh? Well, I'm so happy you asked me this question, Greg, because I spoke about

this on the Fantasy Football Friends. Common question I've gotten, and I would go with Josh Allen. I just think the matchup is great against the New York Giants. He just got shredded for four hundred passing yards and four touchdowns by Dak Prescott. I don't think that Josh Allen is going to do that. But if Josh Allen throws for two and fifty yards, two touchdowns and rushes for an additional forty or fifty. He's going to be a

top ten quarterback this week. If I owned Cam Newton and George brought this up, he said, look, if you're not gonna start Cam Newton at home against Tampa Bay, why do you even own Cam Newton. I don't think. I don't think it's as cut and dry as that, because again, the guy is coming back off a shoulder injury and foot injury and a foot injury, so maybe he needs a couple of weeks to get going here.

Looked really good in North Turner's offense last year. I don't just wanna, you know, throw Cam Newton to the Wolves right now. I'm not getting rid of them for anything. But I think Josh Allen is in a really good spot this week, so yes, I would go with Allan over Cam Newton. So I chose uh on my waiver wire earlier this week to not go in the lead.

I owned Camon to not go after Josh Allen, planning on starting Cam Newton in this matchup at home for the reason that George mentioned right, like, this is a great matchup theoretically it's at home. I know it's a short week, but I like Cam in this spot. Now, other quarterbacks you can see that are on the waiver island and throw this out. Would you start Cam Newton at home tonight or would you start Derek Carr at home against Casey and you know they're gonna throw I'm

still using Cam Newt. Would you start Cam Newton or would you start Jimmy g who we spoke about earlier. Definitely Cam Newon last one, Cam Newton or Jacoby Rissette. Also Cam new Cam is probably a borderline QB one for you. Yeah, m QB eleven. The only way that you're not using Cam Newton is a if Josh Allen is available, or if you paired Cam Newton with someone like a Tom Brady or Lamar Jackson during draft season, if you own one of those guys, obviously I to

use those over Cam Nowton. Alright, let me get continue down the Carolina. Jak prescottle thrown in that mix as well. Jack Prescott again, dude, I agree with that. Let me continue down with Carol. With Carolina here, you're gonna start Christian McCaffrey, who looks, as Gavis said, the best right back in the NFL this past Sunday. The wide receivers DJ Moore and Curtis Samuel both in good spots theoretically

again against this Tampa defense. Are they both rock solid must starts tonight, DJ more more so than Curtis Samuel. Did that. I didn't. I wasn't trying to do that either, but I have d J Moore as a top twenty wide receiver. Tonight gonna be mashed up with Vernon Hargraves, who played much better last week than we've ever seen. I don't know if it's the Todd Bowls effect or whatever it might be, but he played well. He got a very good Pro Football Focus grade last week. He

had a pick six against Jimmy Garoppolo as well. I still do like d J Moore. He saw double digit targets last week. I believe that he is the top target in this offense outside of Christian McCaffrey. If we're being honest, Greg Olsen not going into tonight matchup, so I think we could see more targets for Curtis Samuel. I like Curtis Samuel as a you know, a middling solid wide receiver. Three tonight, Greg, his matchup will be against cornerback Carlton Davis according to Pro Football Focus, and

he created out very poorly last week. And I do think that if there's a matchup you want to exploit tonight, it is Curtis Samuel against this Bucks defense. So DJ More is a top twenty wide receiver for me. Curtis Samuel top thirty five. Greg al right, So Curtis Samuel inside uh the top thirty six for Frankie here this week. One last piece of the offense that you want to mention it, and it's Greg Olson. And we didn't practice earlier in the week. Did come back to practice practice yesterday?

Say what you will, well, Greg Olsen, how flimsy is and how frail and how old he is? Nine targets on Sunday for Carolina against the Rams. Only had four or thirty six, but it was targeted incessantly. We talked about tight end and you lost Hunter Henry for instance. You didn't get Darren Wilder or t J. Hockinson. Is Gregor Wison an option for you? I have him as my tight in seventeen. I'm not excited about it tonight. I understand it's against Tampa Bay. He saw the nine targets.

He didn't do much with those targets. I don't think he's one. I wouldn't be surprised if Greg Olsen leaves the game at some point tonight, or if they mix in Ian Thomas. More so, I have Greg Olson pretty low. Greg I actually have no offense ahead of him this week, which some people might find surprising. But the Bears allowed a touchdown to Jimmy Graham last week and No A Fan played fifty snaps in Week one. You know, originally I thought they're gonna bring No A Fan along slowly here.

I don't know that they're just going to throw him into the fire right away. Well, you know, he played fifty snaps. I believe he ran thirty routes as well, So he was on the field a lot less week. And I think that Joe Flacco is going to need a safety valve, someone to get the get get the ball out of his hands quickly this week against that

Chicago Bears pass rush. So if you do have Greg Olsen on your team, or you know, if you lost Hunter Henry Uh, a name that I would look at is actually No A Fan, even Jimmy Graham and Vernon Davis, I have ranked higher than Greg Olsen as of now. I don't expect Jordan Reed to play this week, all right, So Jimmy Graham, Jimmy Graham, Greg Olson, some of these older guys are options here. This Moevie under Henry no

offense you mentioned as well, Greg Olson. Of course, as Frank mentioned, we'll see if you play a full game tonight against Tavia Bay. Let me go over to that Buccaneers side of the coin. Davis Winston starting, Where where is he in your quarterback rankings? I haven't met QB seventeen,

so I'm not completely burying him. I still have him ranked ahead of some of those names you mentioned, like the Derek Cars and Jimmy Garoppolos, just because of the ahead of Jacobi ber said as well, just because of the weapons that he has here. And yes, I understand he led a lot of people down. Hell, he lost me a game last week where I started Jamis Winston over Lamar Jackson, and honestly, I deserve to lose because I had Lamar Jackson ranked higher, but for some reason

I went with Jamis Winston. So I understand your pain. I suffered from it as well. But I still do think based on the weapons he has, the fact that they're going to pass the ball a lot this year for the longevity of the sea reason. You know, I still do like Jamis Winston. He's got to get better. Look, there's just there's no other way to put it. There's some of the throws that he makes, the decisions, the turnovers. He had three interceptions last week. He's he's just got

to be better. There's no doubt about it. I'm looking for the Bucks to bounce back tonight. I'm not super bullish on Jameis Winston overall, greg as I mentioned QB seventeen, But I'm not completely burying him yet like other people might be if they're overreacting to week one. Let's not overreacting like Jamis Winson coming into the year. I don't think enough has changed for you to get out on

Jamis Winston going forward. This week on Thursday, you get something on the Frenzy that you're gonna guarantee, you're gonna put your foot down, you're gonna hounde your fist on the table that Chris Godwin Greater signed Mike Evans tonight. For those that didn't check out the frenzy. Why do you feel that way. Yeah, it's just a matchup overall tonight. It's not that you know, the Carolina Panthers have great outside corners, but they played pretty well last week against

some stiff competition against the Los Angeles Rams. They limited Brandon Cooks in that performance. Mike Evans is gonna get his and it's not, you know, some astronomical difference. I have these guys both ranked inside my top twelve. I have Chris Godwin ranked one spot higher. I have met wide receiver ten. I have Mike Evans at wide receiver eleven. But overall, Chris Godwin's matchup against j Van Elliott, who is the slot corner of the Carolina Panthers, is one

that is very, very favorable for Chris Godwin tonight. So if I'm just choosing between one of those two, if you're playing a DFS showdown, I would go with Chris Godwin over Mike Evans. I would imagine most people in season long don't have that question mark totally not any concerned about O. J. Howard. Well, yeah, of course. You know, Cameron Brad caught two touchdowns last week on two different occasions, and they were called back. Yeah, you know, you can't

catch two touchdowns at once. Yeah, that's how it works. Great, But when it comes to Cameron Break, he's still been a thorn in the side for O. J. Howard. O J. Howard was on the field much more than Cameron Break. He ran more routes than Cameron Brad as well. I have O. J. Howard as a top seven tight end. I haven't one spot higher than T. J. Hockenson. It's really close for me and that I have Darren Waller ranked. I believe Titan five or six, he's ahead of Howard

as well. All right, last question for you, Free Road Show tonight. Yeah. I spoke about this a little bit on the Frenzy. I wanted to be free Road Joe, but for whatever reason they're still not, you know, handing over the keys to the car to Ronald Jones. I think it was very obvious he was the most explosive running back. We had a report yesterday come out that Peyton Pat Barbera is still going to start for the Bucks tonight and they're going to mixing Ronald Jones. But

I think he's in consideration for a flex. Here is Daria in consideration as a flex play if you're really desperate in a PPR. But yeah, I can't see you being actually that desperate. The question I got from somebody who's desperate Goole wal or Gus Edwards in PPR, I would go with a gooble Walle, Yeah, yeah, I would. I would go with him there. I like Ronald Jones as a low end RB three as a flex option, And when it comes to picking the game from a spread,

I'm actually taking the points with Tampa Bay. I don't trust Cam Newton in the shoulder enough yet. I like what I saw out of the Bucks defense. I think they keep this game competitive. Greg like the touchdown. I'll take Tampa Bay West seven as well. I'll obviously the under in this game. He's free Staville. I'm Greg, Susan want to take Virginia, Danny, everybody else downstairs, Alex to all the dot Tomorrow week picks in every game, one by one the best we can. We hope lose weight now,

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dis Here's what you missed on the BFPS. Why are we not starting James White and are starting the Tavis Verry? I do know why? Actually think they're gonna run the ball again. They don't need they don't need James White. Yeah, I don't know. I feel weird about James White. Let's talk about it right now. I had him as one of my uh tougher matchups that I didn't get to on the previous show, The Fantasy Football Frenzy, with Jim and George Kurtz even trying to betch James White everywhere

we've had them. I just don't know how to feel about James White this week, especially if Antonio Brown plays. We're talking about now they have three legitimate wide receivers in their offense, and look, I understand, I just went on this whole monologue basically last hour about predicting gameflow and how it's you know, pretty hard to predict game flow on a weekly basis in the NFL. You don't normally see nineteen point spreads in the NFL. The Dolphins

looked dreadful last week. The Patriots were clicking on all cylinders. I just don't know how much they're going to need James White, Craig. I understand that in order to be winning by that much, they have to score points. Sure, so James White can score I guess during that time. But I just see this as like it bounced back performance for Sony Michelle, and I still see them using

Rex burkehead as well. James White to me as someone, you know, I want to get him in in games that I think are going to be competitive back and forth off tempo. I don't know that the Patriots are gonna need to use him all that much. Am I overthinking it? Yes, because like let Tatius Murray kind of touchdown dependent, Frank, you're banging on him score in touchdown against the Rams. Just got ripped by Christian Mccafchristian McCaffrey.

Murray is not Christian McCaffrey. He's not, but he also plays on one of the best offenses in a league that has led the league in rushing touchdowns each of the past few year. And by the way, he scored a rushing touchdown. We want he did, but he had six carries total. I'm just saying, but this was a back and forth affair where they started passing the ball, where they started passing the ball late. No, Look, it's probably gonna be a back and forth affair against the

Rams as well. But my thinking here is I think that the Rams are the Saints rather are going to try and keep the Rams offense off the field. I think that they're really going to try and run the football a ton in this one with Alvin Kamara and Lottavius Murray. It's close. Look if you want James White, want James White. It's it's close for me. I mean we could talk about other people we have. We have

Darren starting starting in as our flex. I mean we could start James White over Darren Waller if you want. I don't want to do that, like you like Darren. I guess the Chiefs, Yeah, they're gonna need someone to catch the ball. I like the Darren Waller idea. All right, Look, if you want to go James White Overtavius Murray will leave the final call up to you. That close of a call where if you feel that strongly about it,

it's fine. I have these players closely ranked. For me, when it's a toss up, I go with Latavia's Murray. I personally, I think that the Saints are going to try and play keep away from the Rams this week, and I think Lottavia's Murray gets double digit carries and potentially scores another touchdown this week. Alright, So I don't know that James White's gonna score a touchdown