5/23, Part 1: Brad Ziegler, Injury updates, Stanton setback, and more...

You're listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network Fantasy best Friends Forever to to to to to to to to to to. Yeah. Oh, there's the Fantasy best Friends Forever here on the Fantasy Sports Radio Network alongside Frankie Stanfell. I am Greg salesman. Frank, what's about reggae? How's everything going? Happy? Thursday to Thursday? That means the week is almost over, Greggy excited the weekend? Memorial Day it is? It is,

in fact Memorial Day weekend. Very excited to get started with you and very very excited to get everything under way. I'm also excited to be joined as we are reaching every Thursday. But the Man show off, it's Brad Ziegler. What's going on? Bred? Not a lot guys, how are you doing? Not much, man, I'm doing well. I feel good. How Brad, how did you sleep last night? Uh? Decent. We We've had a pretty pretty strong series of thunderstorms

coming through the Midwest, so uh. Sometimes the nights are a little little dicey, little loud um loud thunder the dogs get nervous, kids getting nervous. But other than that, all good night. I slept well. I was I was out like like Greg. I went out for dinner last and not last night. I told you about that. Went to a Mexican restaurant, drank a margarita tower. Sounds delicious. Hundred ounces of margarita. You king by yourself? No, no, no, no, you have to have four people with you in order

in order to get it done. How much of it did you did? You drink? Probably like three or four glasses raspberry margarita? Love it sounds great. I had a rasper. I slept very well. I had a raspberry yogurt this morning. That's gross. Sorry, very nice, Brad. Do you like yogurt? I like yogurt, but I am not a raspberry fan at all, so I would I would definitely pass on that one. That's a mistake by you, and both of you really yogurt. It's good for you. It gets the

body working, the stomach working. It's like it's almost like a probiotic. Well, it also tastes gross. Sorry, Greg, it's fine. It's just a bacon, egg and cheese. I'm sure you do most people. Most people do. All right, let's not let's get into today's show. We only have Brad obviously for a little while, and I want to start with the Yankees. I'm gonna start with Giancarlos Stanton because this is ridiculous already. And I know we're I'm a Yankee

fan and frankst fan. I know we're fantasy players, and gian Carlos Stanton on a team that's in second place, we want to get to first, and we really standing back. But Brad, this is really ridiculous at this point where he has a strained bicep, which is okay, fine, he'll be back in about three weeks, all good. That turns into a quarter zone shot in his shoulder, which has been significantly bothering him going back to his days in Miami when you played together. Fine, but although it was

very weird, the Yankees didn't reveal anything about this at all. Well, he was going on a minorlygu really have assignment. First game, hits a home run, talks to reporters after the game. I'm feeling good, ready to d h tomorrow. I'll be back in no time. He's gotta get my bats under me. Fantastic. This isn't the word to anybody there. The next day he had a little bit of calf tightness, what from a hit he was hit by a pitch in batting practice on the calf muscle. I don't even know how

that works because your legs. I don't even know how the ball is going to get to the I don't know how that works. I don't even know if I believe it. So fine, all good until he's scratched from the lineup that night. Next day. Yeah, he should be ready to go, should be back in their d h NG right on schedule, until he's pulled off the rehab assignment because he has a strained calf muscle from a

hit by a pitch. Now, Aaron Boone, the manager, was asked, how do you strain your calf muscle from being hit by a pitch in batting practice. Aaron Boone responds, I have no idea, but he is. What do you make of all of this? Well, the biggest thing I mentioned this before. When a guy gets hit with a pitch, it weakens the muscles in that area. Um, even if it's batting practice. You know, the guy throwing sixty, it's not you know, not a huge deal. You don't think

of that much of it. But if he gets hit square in the muscle, you know, it's probably gonna bruise, it's gonna weaken that muscle a little bit, and it just becomes tighter naturally. And you're talking about a guy who's already a massive human being. I mean he's six seven, you know, two hundred fifty pounds and just chiseled. At that point, he is very muscle bound. He um, his he needs everything to to be functioning properly because he doesn't have the room for error that us guys with

a little pudge have. Um, everything's gotta be going going, just smooth and and so um. When when you get a little nick here and there, his his body will react differently than it does to the average human being. And and because of that, um, you know it it lends itself to to you know, higher volatility for injury injury likelihood. Yeah, so he is jacked up, unlike our little pudge. Let you, Brad, we we have the pudge.

You're you're, you're. He's clearly um. But well when it comes to stand I know, Frank, your question was, can you've too chat? Yeah? Is that a real thing? I mean, this guy has built like Hercules, Brad. And there was an article earlier on in the season, it might have been the Post or the Daily News, whatever it was, and they said, well, the reason why Babe Ruth never got hurt was because he was just a fat guy whoad hot dogs and drank beer. And is there any

truth to like being too muscular for baseball? Is that that even a thing? Is that real? I definitely think so, and I think it can be real, not only in baseball but in all sports. I mean, look at look at how many non contact injuries happen in football because the body is just not designed to hold the muscle mass that that it's holding. Now, the joints get strained at a you know, at a higher rate. Um, the everything is is just working differently than it is if

you're just a normal human being walking through life. In general. So, um, yeah, you can. I think you can't get too muscle strapped. I think you can um get to the point where it almost hinders you, especially in a scenario where you're you're injured and trying to come back from it. It might take you a little longer and you're you have

a higher likelihood for set bats. Yeah, I think we should start a petition for the Yankees, specifically Aaron Judge and Dark Carlos Stanton to go on the CC Sabathia diet. Forgetting the CC's forget the CC diet, just have the Gragon Frank diet will work fine well, minus the yogurt yoga yogurt yogurts too healthy? Man is the salads as well?

You don't you don't want you don't want to do that. CC, by the way, actually headed back the ill of his own knee problems, although I honestly like backpatting or anything. But I watched him obviously last night that I'm about too. Yeah, So I watched him last night. I was like, I feel like the knees bothering him, Like he just seemed a little off. And it was when it wasn't when he was living around, but just something seemed off. I like,

I think the knee, he's bothering him. And when I saw it after the game, I was like, oh, I was cool. I knew it, you know, a little small you just we watched CC for over a decade now, so like you kind of know certain things. It was like, oh, that was pretty cool. But speaking of non contact injuries, at it and it's beking of injuries in general, and

injuries the Babe Ruth never had. That brings us to a strained oblique muscle, and Wade Davis is the latest, Aaron Judge being not the earliest but another recent one that has a strained oblique. I feel like I wouldn't even know if my oblique was strained. So maybe I'll just walk out of here today and be like, hey, I have a strained obleakue. But this is you have an oblique to strain it. That's the real that muscle, Greg,

you probably don't have it. That's a really good point. Um. Maybe that's why Babe Ruth and all those guys years ago, I never had a strained no blak muscle. U what is it? How does it hurt? And how? I don't know how painful is it? I guess so I I unfortunately never had a strained oblique. I strained a back muscle that was very close to the oblique. But obliques

basically just the side of your rib cage down in here. Um. If you're, if you're a picture, you're a hitter, obviously, it's a huge muscle um to to potentially have an injury because if you're you're there's so much rotation in baseball that it is you know, extremely likely um that that you will reinjure this again or you will have a setback when you have an oblique issue. Um. They're very easy to to hurt. You know. It can be picking up a suitcase. It can be bending over to

pick something up. It's it's it's kind of like a back like it affects so many things that you do that that it doesn't take a lot, especially the older you get, it doesn't take a lot to strain it. Um. And it is such a vital part of of playing baseball. Um. And it's painful. I mean it can. You can strain it bad enough to the point where like you have trouble breathing, you can pull ribs out of place. Uh,

if you strain it bad enough. So it's just something that you know a lot a lot of people uh may not may not realize it, but at the same time, it can be a huge factor. It's hard to come back from. UM. At that standpoint, it's UM. It is going to be something to monitor for way Davis long term because, like I said, this is an injury that be UH have. It's very likely, um that there will

be setbacks in the rehab process. So you can hurt your oblique by violently swinging any violently swinging back like alright, Judge did or or violently doing anything with your core your side muscle here, um Like like wait Davis did, So you're saying, Brad, if I violently swing this umbrella right here like this, there's a good chance, Hiven, that I have not worked out my core muscles over here, I will hurt my oblique and then I can go

on the eile and miss work for a while. Uh. It's possible again that that it actually can be something where if you don't work it out a whole lot, it actually may not be that much of a problem. But whenever you do work it out, it can be It can be something where, um, you know, kind of like the Stanton thing. You've got these muscles that are bigger than they're designed to be and and therefore they're

more susceptible to injury. All right, so I guess there's no chance to be injuring my oblique swinging his umbrella. You keep playing spike ball and kickball, I'm sure you'll you'll end up straining something. That's good. It's good, you're confident, you're confident sticking sticking with Colorado though, Brad so Way Davis goes out and they announced shortly after that that Scott Oberg was going to actually be the intern closer. But it wasn't like clear to fantasy owners that over

would be the guy. Like his underlying numbers not great, good year last year, almost as many walks of strikeouts, not great, Bob fair to side, but he's ultimately gotten the job done. Is there a feel inside the bullpen that like they know who's going to be the guy? Went to fantasy owners? It's not necessarily clear. Like I think it's one thing where there's clearly guy, a guy like yourself who has closing experience, and a guy goes down, you're in the next fan, not like Texas was pretty obvious,

right Jos Clark goes down. Clearly Sean Kelley was going to take over and he's done. So even coming off the I M with Colorado, it wasn't that easy for us fantasy owners. And but black name Scott Oburg the closer um with way Davis out? Is there that feeling in the bullpen and how do the roles change and how do the guys react to that? I think a lot of times you have a pretty good idea who it's going to be, especially if you're you're eighth inning guy has been throwing well, a lot of times it

will be that guy. Um. There there are the scenarios where, especially in today's game, the way bullpens are used, where guys um you know, managers may not want to alter the the the chemistry of the bullpen. They want to keep guys in these certain roles and and kind of have someone leap frog them to get to the ninth inning. Because you've got a guy that's succeeding in the eighth inning, Why change it? You've got a guy that succeeding in

the seventh inning, Why change it? You've got a guy to come in with runners on base, Why change it, Let someone else figure out the ninth and at least use those other guys to get the ball to the ninth. Whereas if you change up a whole lot of other stuff prior to the ninth inning, then it's possible that you don't even get to the ninth inning with the lead. So um, I think, Um, you know, obviously got closing

experience helps, but it's not it's not mandatory. I mean, especially when you're talking about a short time, all you need is the guy that's pitching well at that moment, get get us through this time where our closers out. Um, you know, hopefully for for Wade's sake, that is a short amount of time. But but like I said, it could turn into a lengthy, lengthy thing. And at that point you've got to kind of feel, um like like over is gonna have a chance to here to essentially

establish a really good role on this team. And and when as far as within the bullpen um, a lot of times the manager will sit down, um, you know, especially prior to a series and look, guys, um, you know obviously wades out now. Um, so this is the scenario, What we're gonna do, and they'll they'll kind of lay it out for everybody, and a lot of times they will.

They he probably would have talked to Oberg ahead of time. UH, let him know, Hey, you're gonna be the guy right now, so that you can start preparing mentally to be that ninth inning guy, to be the guy, um that that is in that situation, you start you do everything differently. You start stretching later in the game. Uh, you start

mentally preparing like, Okay, where are they at in the lineup? Uh, you know who's who's looking like it might be in the ninth inning, and start looking at scouting reports, have a good feel for who's on the bench, who might be pinch hitting. Um. It does change a little bit depending, you know, if you're if you're especially if you're not used to being an eighth or ninth inning guy. I want to stick with the bullpens here, Brad, and I want to kind of go to the opposite of the

closer right now, which is the opener. Uh. First and foremost, I want to ask, how do you feel about the opener considering that you were a successful reliever for as long as you were, and how would you have felt if you were asked to be an opener. I'm not a huge fan of it. I'm kind of a traditionalist, a little bit to the point where I don't even like UM. You know the managers taken starting pitchers out after sixty seventy pitches just because of a matchup, potentially

so UM. At the same time, UM, I realized that analytics are changing the game. Some teams are are really buying into this UM. If I was asked to do it. The hardest part, if you've never done it before, or even moving from a starter to reliever or vice versa, is figuring out a warm up routine. When do I start throwing, Because when you're a reliever, a lot of times where they're at in the lineup in the inning will dictate you know, how how fast you go when

you start throwing. If you're If they finish the seventh inning and they call, the manager calls down, says ziggers got the eighth inning. You know you've got three outs. You can kind of watch the game, get a feel for for how the inning is going to see. You know when exactly you need to be ready. If you

get two quick outs, you gotta speed it up. If it's you guys get a couple of base hits and a walk to start the inning, you kind of back it down a little bit because you don't want to throw sixty pitches in the bullpen before you go out there. That's harder to do. Whenever you're you're essentially saying, hey,

you got the first inning. You know, if it's the bottom of the first that that you're pitching, if you're on the road, then maybe it's you can kind of treat it like I'll just get up and start throwing, you know, when the when the game starts. But if it's the top of the first and you're you're the home team and you're going out there to lead, it's most relievers don't know how much time it takes them to get loose. You have us kind of a certain

number of throws. Maybe, but the adrenaline is different when you're warming up and there's nothing going on in the field except guys just kind of running around, stretching national anthem all that stuff. That's different than when you're pitching the seventh inning. So, um, I would not have been a fan of it at the same time. Um, you know, most guys would be like, Hey, if if this is what you think, give us the best chance to win, give me the ball bad Do you have a couple

woman to say out of us? Yeah, of course awesome. When we come back. We talked to Brad before the season began about pine tar and substance. It's kind of back in the news. I'm interesting to talk to Brad about that as well as come back from injury and finding your group. Let's talk to Brad's eager about that. Here the BFFs Next Daily Rhodo dot com learned from the game's best DFS players. We don't just give you advice. We play every day, all major sports, all year round.

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began about the use of a foreign substance. We talked about Michael Pinato and and the um the substance that he had on the back of his neck, and it kind of came up again when the Yankees faced off against the Mariners a week or two back, and we saw through the y S cameras that you say, a cou she had something right on the under the brim of his hat, and you know, he would take the hat and he wipe in. He did the thing and the wipe his arms and it was very obvious what

he was doing. You pointed that out to me that every time you see a piget do the same thing like you know they do, they were doing. And that actually leads me back to last night, Frank that between every yet batter, Dan Sterlia rubbed both of his arms, rubbed every single time. Did no. It did not help Dan Australia at all. Last night but he was doing

the same thing. I was like, this guy was routine, and like, oh yeah, Brad told me about this, Like it's clearly he's got some suntan lotion or whatever to better the ball. But again it didn't help. Does Obviously Aaron Boone didn't say anything or do anything about it because he doesn't care because these pictures are doing the same thing. As you pointed out, almost all pictures are doing something to get a better grip. It's an unwritten

acceptable rule in baseball. But just using a substance help with a particular pitch, and can we use as fantasy owners as information to help us at all? I mean it can. It depends on the substance. I guess when you're talking about, um, you know, if it's a pine tar or the sunscreen and rosing combination, that kind of thing, that that's not going to help with a particular pitch. That's a picture just looking to get better grip on the ball. Um, it's you know, the balls are slick.

They get in this routine, um where they after you do it a couple of times, you just want to have that feel in the consistency, so you basically just do it every start. Um, even if the balls don't feel that slick that night. Um. At the same time, um uh, they could do a lot in baseball if they just would in hands the mud that they rubbed the ball up with. Um. We had a bullpen catcher in Oakland that that put some barber sall shaving cream in the You rubbed the ball up with the mud first,

and then put the shaving cream over the top. Just for the bullpen balls, not for the game balls. But the bullpen balls felt amazing. And the problem is that you throw with this ball that felt amazing, you go out in the game and and all of a sudden you're throwing with slick balls again. So did you put any shaving cream in your back pocket that you pretend you're going to get some sut of flower seeds? Are really a shaving cream? No? No, And that's um. You know,

But from that standpoint, it doesn't affect the pitch. You know, you can get a glob of pine tar on a ball. You've you've seen you know the film Necro thing where you use sandpaper to siss the ball up. If you're changing the surface of the ball, that's completely different than using something for grip and so um, yeah, you can

make the ball move funny ways. I've heard stories about guys even putting like basiline in their mouth, um, you know, and they grab it and and when the balls, when the balls slick like that and you're trying to get that slick feeling coming off your hand, you can make the ball move quite a bit more doing that. So um, you know, at least from what I heard that that's something I never tried because I was always afraid I chuck it over the back stuff. In addition to you know,

not wanting to do anything like that to begin with us. So, but it's there. There are guys who have figured out certain things and and from that standpoint on on, you know, when it's ATTACKI steps and stuff, it's it's all for grip. We talked before. Most hitters don't care because they want the picture knowing where the ball is going as opposed to the ball feeling slick and the guy is throwing nine and it gets away from him and smokes, you know, smokes a hit it in the back of the head

or you know, you know, having forbid something worse. Well, whatever you say, Kikuchi has been doing. Greg he's got to keep doing it. So whether it's a substance or you know, pitch makes or whatever he's doing differently, keep doing it because it's working for for fantasy baseball purposes. Great teas before the break that we were going to talk about, uh, some young players specifically, you know, guys getting derailed their momentum from injury and then bouncing back

from that. So we've seen that already with Clint Fraser. He got off to a red hot start this year. No pun intended there um, but then he hit the I L and came back and just completely threw him off Brad like he's striking out every other at that. He did have a multi homewered game this week, so it looks like he's starting to bounce back a little bit. But we also saw Willy Calhoun get called up and

he was crushing it. Now he has a quad injury and he lands on the I L. So I just wanted to ask you from a major league player perspective, what happens when your rhythm gets snapped like that, especially you know for a younger player, um, and you know, how hard is it to bounce back from something like that, especially for some of these young guys like Clint Fraser and Willy Calhoun, it is challenging. It's it's tough for them to to keep a rhythm going. I mean, baseball

is so much a rhythm sport. And when you were on when you're feeling good and you're on a hot street like Frasier was earlier in the season, Um, you you just want to get out there every day. You don't want you don't want any days off, you don't want any games reigned out. Um you don't, you know, you just want to go out there and play. And and then the injury. Typically with with an injury is you have to sit and and do almost nothing for

a week to ten days, depending on the injury. And then you try to come back and get that rhythm back, and it's just not the same, Like you've taken too much time off to to let the injury heal. And it's it's tough. It's it's tough to to get that rhythm back. I mean, it's it's tough. Even from a picture standpoint, say you're a reliever, you just get four or five days off because of the way the game flow was, it's hard hard to go back out there and be really sharp that next time. But a lot

of times you don't like pitching. If you're a closer, you know that it's used to pitch in these tight games. And then all of a sudden you've got a tend to one game and they're like, hey, you haven't pitched three days, we're gonna throw you out there. That mentality is different too, and it can it can end up leading to a tough inning for a guy and ended up kind of throwing him out of the rhythm he

was in before that. So UM, it's it's I'm you know, there's obviously no scientific way to say, like, hey, when you come back from this injury, we're gonna you can do this and keep the same rhythm you I'd go in UM at the same time, I from a from a fantasy standpoint, because of that, I would be inclined to hold onto these guys. Put him on your I L spot if you have one. UM, even if you don't, you know, there was enough production there early to hold

onto him. And then right about the time where it's it's like they're finishing up the rehab assignment, they're gonna come back, find a team that needs needs the guy at that position, and trade him away because the odds of them coming back hitting as well as they were before that are are very low. I mean, let's be honest, Willy cal who's not gonna hit four thirty all season, so so you probably already got the best of him

at that point. Trade him away while you can get get some high value for him, because if he comes back and goes over his first nineteen, who's gonna win him at that point. I think that's a really good

point by Brad too, especially Greg. The last thing that we remember about Willie Calhoun was that everyone was spending all this fab money on him, and I think when he's ramping up is rehab being getting ready to return, I think people are gonna be excited for him and something like that once again, so you might be able

to flip him. And it's funny you say that, Brad, because over the weekend, once it was announced that Stanton was going to go on a rehab assignment, I was able to trade him in one of my home leagues to pick up Zach Wheeler because I needed starting pitching. So I'm obviously grateful that I was able to pull that off. I couldn't predict that Stanton was gonna get hurt again. But once I saw he was gonna go on a rehab, I started shopping him. I moved him.

And this might be something to consider, greg for some of these other sluggers that are coming back for the Yankees, specifically Aaron Judge. You know we spoke about oblique earlier with Wade Davis. There's gonna be a high percentage chance that for him to re injure that. Specifically, so he was a borderline first round pick, you might be able to move Aaron Judge when he gets close to returning. Uh and then another guy, indeed, Gregorious. Although I don't have as many concerns for d D as I do

for Aaron Judge. Brod, I know we gotta let you go, but I wanted to have one follow up because she talks about baseball is such a game of resiliency and in a game of streaks and and and getting hot and getting out of slumps and regaining form, and Aaron moves me something interesting today. Labor Tores has twelve runs of the year, ten ten of which against the Orioles.

Gary Sanchez has like sixteen home runs Tom against seems total would seem to me against the Orioles, both Sanchez and Tores are out of the lineup today, and you said, hey, when you get hot, you go to the manager, owner the manager and be like, what are you doing? So if you're Glabor tour Is, you're Gary Sanchers, who are just on this incredible hot streak against the Oriels, not in the lineup today in a game that first pitch, I've leave a schedule for five minutes from now. Um,

what do you do? Well? I mean he basically said, I wanted to get these guys a day off and stay after night game. Why not? Now, what what do you do to stay hot? Because you're scorching right now and you're out of the lineup. Well, the part of the difference is because um, you know, when you're hurt, you don't even get to take batting practice a lot of times, and and so you completely lose your swing. Whereas these guys can still go through the normal routine, hit off a t hipp p they might get a

chance to pinch it later in the game. Uh, you know, win the games on the line, and and that's the spot. They would be huge weapons coming off the bench based on their success against Baltimore and and how confident they would be in that scenario. Um. At the same time, just the nature of the game today, there's no one playing a hundred sixty two games anymore, very very few

guys do. Um, you want to keep them healthy all your you don't want to to do to these guys by running them out there every single day and and running to the ground. What happened to Stanton, what happened to Judge, what happened to Fraser, all these you know, different scenarios. He's trying to find a way to balance that because they've been snake bit like in you know, for that franchise this year, they want to alter that. So they're like, look, the guys that are healthy, they're

playing well, we want to keep them that way. Um. You know, a lot of times they would have known

last night that they weren't playing today. Um. It gives him a chance to kind of, you know, go out, have have you know, maybe have a little bit of a late night out and and just kind of take some some steam off because they can't do that on on when they're going out and and playing every single day and and get a good, really good night of sleep, just knowing like I don't, I can wake up tomorrow, be a little more relaxed when I get to the park and then kind of flipp that scis latter in

the game, and be ready to go the next day. A lot of times a mental day off can be beneficial, um, just like a physical day OFFCAM all right, there you go. It's Brad Ziegler from Well the Athletic a yet here's a podcast on athletic with Jakes Cilley and Brad joins each and every week. He's wealth of fantas football knowledge of course all of his baseball background as well. We appreciate the time Brad, with fowards talking to you next week.

My pleasure, guys, thanks for having me on. There you go, it's Brad Ziegler. I think it's a good place to go now. Frank mentioned Glabor torres Uh mentioning gian Carlos Stanton mentioning the Yankees and Gary Stanches as well, to talk about last night's Yankee game. Admittedly Yankee fans, admittedly uh oriole bashers after just watching this team all week, and the Orioles are awful. They're announcing not so awful. No,

it's not actually actually love Gary Thorne. He was. He's called a few of the video games too, like his announcer voice for Video games voice. Yeah, but Greg, you can call me out. But it is just a big story as well. I don't think it's just because like, oh, we live in New York or Yankee fans. I mean, labor Tores is hot. He's one of the hottes hitters in baseball right now. Another two home runs, ten of his twelve homers coming against the Baltimore Orioles. Gary Santis

hits another one. Shout out to Drew drink Drew dink Meyer. He he liked Gary Santez yesterday said that during the fandal hurry up video, Tyros Trotta getting it done too, man, I mean the Yankees are just getting it done. He went out, these guys in the line of great they are, they are getting it done and four Glabor Torres. It's he's frustrating Orioles fans. He's frustrating Orioles announcers. And last

night's home runs sounded like this during the streak. He's sitting over four hundred during this ten game at streak. Cars pumps that one in the air that's still left center field. Well, Gerson back, I don't run. I don't know. You cannot imagine this happening in Major league basketball or any other place in baseball. And like then he had to still get his call in there, right, he had to get the goodbye hole run in there, good by

home run. It's like, but it's mich okay, and it's obviously be like all right, see you Like, no matter what, he had to get his call in you have to. I mean, that's that's a that's a that's the rule of yeah, yeah, alright. It was like, all right, goodbye home Ruther, thanks thanks Gary, make sure you got your calling there. But glavor the Glabory Tores goes to even the run was it one second? What was every one second? So Glaory Toures hits the first home run, and I'm

sitting there watching, hid not believe he does again. He's ridiculous, like this is ridiculous. So of course then he comes up later in the game and then this happens. Runs four hits in that ball game. Two of the runs armed in the ad a right field man Seeney going back on the ball by Torres way back hop and that sounds like he's just lapping goodbye home run there

it is good home run. Last two at bats. He's had home runs numbers eleven and in the season, eleven and twelve on the season, nine and ten against the Orioles. How many Orioles have ten home runs this year? Not this? Mancini have it? Mancini is close. He has ten. He has ten? How many ten home runs? Is like VR have? Uh? Definitely not ten? Yes? Five? Does anybody in the Orioles have more than ten? I can't imagine. So, I mean, tray Mancini has consistently been their best hitter all season long.

Renato Nunez hit his ninth of the season last night, so he's pctually the next closest one. So I just love if you listen closely to that second call, they're just like inaudible sound in the backgrounds. It kind of just sounds like he's like slapping his leg or he's like falling off the chair. He's got nothing. Labor Torres more home runs against the Orioles than any player on the Orioles has in general, other than tray Mancini. He has the same that is correct. Nobody has more home

runs than Labor Tour. Nobody other Orioles has more home runs, and Glabor Tours has this year against the Orioles. So can can someone make the argument Greg and say now is the time to try and sell high in Glabor touris because he's not always gonna be facing the Baltimore Orioles. I think that's a fair argument to make. Yes, right, but he's gonna face other bad pitchers in baseball too, right, just rearly as bad as the Baltimore Oriole. He's also

batting three hundred, stating three hundred. He fased the Orioles eleven times thus far. Yeah, eleven rights, eleven games versus the Orioles, ten on runs. I believe that's the number. So Greggy, I wouldn't even be trying to sell him. Oh, it's it's twenty three years old. It's fun, it is and and I mean, look, he's doing all this without the protection in the lineup and no standing and no

judge and the county status are still really good. Twelve homers, twenty eight runs, twenty six ribbies, three stolen bases three O two. I have to a player, Greg, I mean, I don't think that we're expecting many more stolen bases. Like if he gets to Tan, if he gets the twelve, fine, that would be great. But look at some of these

other numbers rest of season projections for on Fangraphs. You know, guys like Derek Carty with the bat and the Steamer projections, they have him for between eighteen and twenty home run twenty one home runs the rest of the way. That would would give him anywhere from thirty to thirty three homers at the end of the season. Uh, well, what

would what would those home runs sound like? Chris just wondering if if they happen to come against the Orioles, what would those home runs sound like if he if he did with Derek Carty's projecting, Okay, so it would sound like nothing. You give me one of those balls, I could drop it, and that's what it sounds like, dropping the ball. I wanted to Yeah, that's that's what it sounded like. Yeah, I wanted to know. I wanted

to know. With Gary Thornton, what would have made it sound like we can only do that once per segment? Greigt seven percent hard hit rate ball. Look Florio dubty club. Labor Torres is part of that. As a middle infielder. If the guy hit thirty bombs, he will he would have lived up to his fifty sixth round price tag, which so many people were scared that he wasn't going to be able to live up to live it up to it right now, not over the ball dropping thing.

I'm trying to let it go, but you're not yet. Tyrostrad in the lineup again today, Greg, great, It's fine. I mean, I'd rather glabor. But as river as River of Blues tweeted out, like there's never a good time in bench. Gary Sandra's labor tourist. You never had a one him to But like is the Orioles like come on, yeah, come on, we need this. By the way, that also

works in favor of cop and I call for right now. Yeah, that was the sound that I was talking about back top and or Gary Thorne, Man, he does a great job. What is he gonna do? Good? What is he gonna do? Ynha sit there and say goodbye home run, alot, goodbye home run. You can't imagine this happening in baseball. Goodbye run? Do you think Jim Brock Meyer would have called that run goodbye, home run drink. Can you believe it? Can you believe it? Labor Torres again with another home run

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the Fantasy Sports Network YouTube page yesterday. You would have seen that Greggy thought that the total in that game was a sucker bet. His reasoning, Vegas knows, Vegas always knows. The total for that game yesterday was six and a half, and we did get a pictures duel between Jacob de Graham and Max Scherzer, and I would argue that Greg got a little bit lucky here six runs in the eighth ending scored by the New York Mets to go

over the number. The Mets win six to one, and I'm sure Greggy will have some more other fun bets similar to this that he made yesterday. He said, faith the Mets and the Nationals go under, will fade the under for the six and a half there, and he knew it. He called it the game ends six to one. But wasn't only you get the much needed bouncebacks from Jacob to Gram and Max shuts, which was always great

to see. Great It wasn't the only under called. I also had that that Indians Oakland that's during during the day games. And he said, well, you want you want some day action. I'm feeling good man. Hey, you're on roll man, stay hot. We're gonna try it. We're gonna pick a little bit later on today, a little bit later on the show. You gotta stay tuned for it. Yeah, so Medicine Nats. You've got a great outing from Max Shrews and you've got a great outing from Jacob Dugram.

And I wouldn't say it was like needed from both of them, but it was obviously very very good to see. It was needed, all right. The ground six innings, one run, two hits, three walks, eat strikeouts, only running allows was I believe the lead off home run to Adam eating or sorry he's backing second? Yesterday with Turner leading off a first inning home run to Adam Eating and then Max shrews Are allowed nothing in his six innings of work. Did throw hundred and nine pitches, though it's a lot

over six innings. Before hits two walks, he struck out nine really good outings from both the Graham and Scherer, but thanks to the bullpen implosions, we're good and we went over the number. Yeah, it was a little disappointed. I think this is me being greedy and Max Scherzer fantasy owners out there being greedy in general that you wanted a little bit a bit more length here from

Max Jersey. He goes to six endings pitch, but you mentioned it, Greg, he needed a hundred and nine pitches to get through six endings against that Mets line up yesterday. I was expecting more. But overall, still really good performance. Uh six hits and walks combined over six innings pitch, so that's a one whip nine strikeouts. Obviously you'll take that. He had twenty five swinging strikes on the other side, Greg Jacob de Graham, who had been scuffling a little

bit here. You're not used to seeing him walk to so many guys, you have still had three walks yesterday, gave up the home run, but settled down eight strikeouts against a really really good Washington Nationals lineup, one that's getting better and obviously getting a little bit more healthy and getting there their legs underneath them. Trade Turner back obviously, Anthony Wren done back, Juan Soto, You're all kind of returning from injury and starting to gel a little bit.

Matt Adams back yesterday as well for the team. Um, and then Victor Rollos. The only one we're missing Carter Keble, and let's get Keble and back on this roster. Come on, Brian, does there's any two or three with six ops? Get him out of here? Greggy is your micn for that? You might want to repeat it? Get him out of air? Than Sorry, I was, I was coughing. I don't want me to cough on there, so I shut my MIKELF.

That was a problem there. Um, yeah, it was. It was bad anti from the National's bullpen, who saw the implosionable Kyle barrack Claw and Sean Doolittle. Everyone was crushing the Nats bullpen all over Twitter yesterday. I understandably, so, UM do it was actually pitched really well other than last night, So I didn't feel I didn't feel like he deserved all this blame. But that's what it is.

Kyle bear Claw has not been great, no cal Barra Claws being so has Trevor Rosenthal for this team horrific. They were trying to turn back the clocks with if I can turn back to bad they were. They tried to turn back the clocks or turn back time, as Greg likes to say, say for a guy like Trevor Rosenthal hasn't worked out. Kyle Barclaw always a guy that was able to get a lot of strikeouts in Miami, but um, you know, struggles with walks, gives up some

runs at times, and you see that here. Uh, Greg, we might be down to a two team race for Craig Kimberal's services. It might be an n l E showdown here. But here's the thing. So I know we did this with the Mets couple of days ago, but it's much worse than that's and that's are currently eleven games under five hundred. What business do they have going out and getting Craig Martinez still have? And I don't know that it's even his fault, necessarily, But what are

we doing here? What are we doing? Of course? I mean this team has Max Scherzer, Steven Strassburg, they signed Patrick Corbin. I don't care that you lost Bryce Harbor. There's no excuse for this man. Like you know, the Mets are getting crush right now for getting off to a decent start and then slowing down here in their twenty three and twenty five I feel like no one's

talking about the Nationals Greg. They're nineteen and thirty's embarrassing. Yeah, I mean, I think he's a team that was picked by multiple people US and we're not the only ones great to win the National League East. Yeah, eleven games under five hundred, what's going on here? Come on? Um, That's why I don't think he's saying Kimber. That's why I think kimberal heads. I think it's I think he heads to Atlanta. I think the clear favorite. I don't

want to rule out Boston still makes sense. That's about it. Probably, And I know we heard whisper someth Milwaukee, but I've mentioned Chicago before too. Yeah, definitely, definitely, especially especially with the way the Cubs are playing right now. Cubs are certainly an option. Uh, they're no doubt right around June second, June third, right when the draft competence. So we're looking at a few weeks away if you held on to Craig.

Not few weeks, dude, a week? Uh well yeah, like a week and a half whatever, it's like ten eleven days, Like the Monday after, like a week from this Monday, he could sign face. I'm sure you will. It'll probably

be back in the bullpen shortly after. The reasons that I brought off the Red Sox because is because of what happened last night for Boston as the Red Sox bullpen, won't they all just let up runs we expected from the Blue Jays bull but not necessarily Boston's bullpen as Brandon Workman, Matt Barnes, uh and in Marcus doesna markets it is markets, right cool? Marcus Walton all allowed runs for Boston in their inning or two of work. Uh,

they all just were not good yesterday against Toronto. Boston ultimately one in extra innings, six to five, with uh Rick Porcella pitching well six and eight, three hits, one run, didn't walk anybody, He struck out four. Aaron Sanchez also pitched pretty well six innings, four hits, two runs, two walks, five strikeouts. Could not drop him after that, Frank No, I think that's a good job by you. You preach patients for once here. Great seeing that from you, But

I think that was a good call. I have him in a few fifteen team leagues still holding on as well, but needed to see this as well. For Aaron Sanchez again, his last start, he was cruising through I think it was three four innings, gets pulled with a blister, whatever reason. The way he throws, he's always dealing with blisters. And I still think that Aaron Sanchez is a competent picture. I think that he can be a viable pitcher for

fantasy purposes, but he's always dealing with these blisters. So you just have to know that when it comes to him, like there's a chance that every single start that he makes he can leave early due to a blister. He's kind of like the Anthony Davis of fantasy baseball, except not nearly as valuable as Anthony Davis. He's like a

really really poor man's Anthony Davis. Um. I don't think he has a Uni brow or anything like that, but overall, this was a really good start for him, going up against the Boston Red Sox, being able to limit them to just two earned runs, an offense that frankly, Greg, even without J. B. Martinez, has been coming around, led by Raffie Devers is doing in the month of May. I mean, the guy is just red hot right now. So I know he got off to a slow star.

We spoke about him, you know, maybe a month agoes time, Greg, and we said, you know, he's doing things differently this year. He's not striking out as much, but it seems like he's hitting more for contact and he's sacrificing some power. But seemingly since we brought that up, um, he's been

he's been able to turn this around. Greg. So in the month of May, specifically for Raffie Devers th forty one batting average, six homer's, nineteen ribbies, two stolen bases s he has six home runs in an underrated part of his game, Greg, six stolen bases, something you don't expect from ro Absolutely not great job by him turning around. He's he's finally looks like he's paying off some of that value that that we thought he could have. I feel like I may have missed one of my favorite

parts of the day annually. What happened? I didn't miss your your your daily tantrum? Yet I missed it. I didn't have one. Now you didn't have it with Daniel murphys on the bench today. Oh oh man, And it's against the righty too, it is. Oh yeah, yeah, you know, you know you know how to rile me up. You gotta you know those little toys where you just like wind up the back and they go marching back and forth. That's what you do. You like doing that to me,

don't you? Just Daniel Daniel Murphy and David Donal. I mean, those are the two names that David wasn't in the line up yesterday. So of course if you own both of these guys, they can never be in the line up together. Why would we have that? Come on, Bud Black, we can't have nice things. Daniel Murphy finally gets off this night. HiT's a bomb last night. You know what, Daniel Murphy, you played so well, we're gonna stick you

on the bench. Going up against Jordan's miles today in p n C. The swing looked pretty good from Daniel Murphy, last night. It's all the home. This looks like vintage Daniel Murphy. Nice a little up brick cut swing on this. It's a bomb to right center field, and you know what, you get a benching. I get it a little bit more, Greg, because Daniel Murphy it doesn't seem like he's completely over this finger injury, and they're trying to find ways to give him days off. So I guess it's day game

after a night game. That's their excuse for Daniel Murphy whatever. At least at the least David dal isn't there. So that's great to see. I was so happy to see that Daniel Murphy home run. Greg last night. I said, please, over the weekend, you're going up against Baltimore, give me

a few more of these. Give me to Daniel Murphy homers, or give me death, give me to David Doll Homers, or give me death from D and D not you know the guys who want thrones and ruined it the new D and D. If your initials are D D D, you suck. You want the double D David and Daniel, the double DS stingers this weekend so I can trade your asses away. Do you want you want triple Day and get off, my lady. You want the dig or from double Day, which makes a trible day. Whatever you

wanted to be, Greggy, that was my rant. Thanks for rising me up starring mar Day still us a base. That's cool, Gregy planco hit a home runs? Are you? That's a little bad? You own? I do. But what happened was on Tuesday he was scratched from the lineup and I didn't know why. And I mentioned, for who, um, his teammate Brian Reynolds, because I thought if there was gonna be like an extended absence here, that Brian Reynolds would just fill in for him. I just can't do

anything right. I feel like you have let's just do the show for the rest of the day without me. I feel like you may have you gotten too cute there, Frank. What the thing was? So my thinking was, I'll walk

you through the process. The process Gregory Polanco Obviously he was dealing with the shoulder injury before the season, and when I saw that he was scratched due to undisclosed injury, I mean, all these thoughts are going through my mind and like, well, I don't know what he's dealing with you know, he might miss a couple of games here, you might miss the entire week. So and you know, for me, greg when it comes to points leagues, I

can't stand my my players not playing. And of course Ryan Reynolds is not playing today and Gregory Polanco is, but at the time I didn't know that, so I just said, all right, let me pick up his replacement, which would be Brian Reynolds, and I'll put him in the lineup. And he's done it right so far. I think he had like a double and a couple of walks so far on the week. So that was my thing.

I want to get something rather than nothing. I didn't even know if Gregory Planco was gonna play, and he's playing, he's playing well, he's hit a dinger. But overall, if you own Gregory Polanco, I think you're pleasantly surprised she got from him so far. I mean, I couldn't have predicted that the power would come back this quickly for him, greg And um, I'm I'm very welcoming absolutely for this production. Back to Boston and Toronto from last night for Mookie

bats Homer for the eight time this year. Michael Javis homer for the tenth time him this year. To go along with what you mentioned of Rabi Devers, Bets also stole his fifth base of the season. Nicest he bets to a little a little bit of both last night gets it will be back over four for Toronto. Rowdy tell us homers again. He's third home running two days for the ninth the season. But he's hot. He's hot, Vladdy, Daddy. Fifth homer of the year for Vladimir Guerrero. He's hot

as well. Blue Jays are getting hot. Justin Smoke homer for these seven times this year. And you know, this is what I said. This is why I said what I said about Rowdy t Lez maybe a month ago and wrote about a little bit on my Patreon and I was trying to pick him up everywhere because I thought that the Blue Jays offense was about to take off once Vladimir Guerrero joined the team. Now it's taken a few weeks, but I mean, he's one of the

hottest hitters in baseball right now. And then because of that, I think that everyone else in the team is kind of feeding off this energy. Greg. And you know, when you have runners on base like pictures fall behind accounts, they have to they have to pitch to you. We saw that the other day with it WARDA Rodriguez. I fall behind an account, you have to pitch to Roddy Telez. What happens Boom to Dingers last night another jinger for

Rowdy Telez. So if he was dropped, especially in deeper leagues, you need a corner infielder, you need a first baseman, utility bat, whatever it might be. I think that Roddy Telez is about to do a little bit of what I was expecting when Vladimir Guerrero got called up. Greg Roddy Tiles finally coming through four Fantasy owners in the middle of that line of this entire Blue Jays lineup opening up with Vladimir Guerrero getting hot, kind of what

you expected. Maybe a week or two after what you expected. What was happening, Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a matter of time. Look the I mean, Vladimir Guerrero is too talented. Everything that we heard about him coming into the year, it's played discipline, is his ability to make contact and all different kinds of pitches. Um, he's legit, He's legit. And it was just a matter of time. And you see that with the home runs he's hitting

straightaway center field. He'd go to all fields. He's a legitimate hitter, and I think that's gonna rub off the rest of the some of the rest of these guys here, specifically Rowdy tell Us. So I'm a fan of him. He was dropped, pick him back up? Didn't you drop him somewhere? I did, dropped him in the pit league league. It's something that I would consider. You just said a quote if you dropped the pick him back up? Now you're like, consider, Yeah, but I was able to pick

up Dan vogel Box because someone dropped him. I would argue that Dan vogel bok Is has more value than Rowdy tell Us, So why would I? Probably it's probably close. It's close, but yeah, why would I. I mean, if anything, they're similar players, So it's probably a wash. Greg. I have two pictures going against you right now, Frank true, I have one. I have Strasburg against the Metzis. I musta here at Tanaka. How about that line up for the METSI today, Greggy and Jordan Lyles. The Mets line

up today is hysterical. It's like absolutely hysterically. You know, it's not hysterical about it, Dady Davis, isn't it? Greg? And this is what we wanted, is what we were banging to take it before onto the I l at J. D. Davis man, especially in deeper leagues. If this guy, especially if he has third base and outfield eligibility, he's gonna have dual eligibility. Okay, went over this either. I think it was yesterday. The underlying numbers for J. D. Davis

are really good, the sadcast numbers. He hits the ball hard, um, he hits up on the air. He's you know, he's had like five home runs in limited quaene time this year and he's batting second. He's back a second for the Mats. So I'm interested, definitely interested in J. D. Davis. Greig, by the way, inside Injuries just tweeted out we're talking Dr Ray coming up in about twenty minutes or show. In regards to J. D. Davis regards the Mats Robin's canal,

this comes directly from inside injuries. He has a concerning injury history that includes a quad strain in twenty seventeen, hamstring strains in twenty seventeen, and ten and in the past he has stroll to quickly overcome these lower body muscular strains trains. This may be a lengthy absence for the Mets second basement directly from inside injuries. What are we talked before the season that was worried about him?

Was it Brad Ziegler or was it Ian Con because getting it confused now, I don't think one of them was really probably Brad because we we we we drafted him and then Brad told us are idiots? Thank you're right, but yeah, shout out to Brad Ziegler. He said that he was worried about this year, one year older and the fact that card for the steroids last year that might have been something that helped him for so many years he the iron Man that he was not able

to make. And what's happening now the first year after getting busted with the p E d s to find himself underperforming dealing with injuries. So number two, Christ, you're dry. It's next