5/2, Part 1: Brad Ziegler, Jose Ramirez value, nightly recap, and more…

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Probably not all right. I think I only had like one or two of those across the span of three games. Not my best work, your best, do your best you can then trying speaking of the best weekend, We're trying to provide you the best show we can and to do that, we brought in a little help joined the program today. For the first few minutes, it's our buddy, Brad Ziegler. What's going on, Brad? Hey, guys, how are you doing. We're doing really well. Man. How yourself? Oh,

doing pretty well, just kind of hanging out. And to see Frank's last name up on the screen, it was shocking to me how many consonants there are. I had no idea. Whenever you hear his name, you just kind of don't even think about it. When you see it up there, it's like, Wow, there's one vowel in the long last name. That's unbelievable. Yeah, it's It's been messed up multiple times. Throughout my life. As a childhood basketball player,

I had multiple jerseys that were spelled very wrong. Brad, Um, it looks like somewhere in there, for sure, well, it looks like it should be stampel or stample and like someone just forgot the bottom line on the e. Yeah, basically that's the same mistake that everyone else's me. I've gotten like stamp fee with like an eye on the end, stand fee with a y. I've had stampell, Like you said to Brad, Um, you're not the only one. You're

not alone, right, good? I don't I don't feel so bad. Then, fantastic, fantastic. I'm glad. I'm glad you guys have figured that out now, So so Brad. We obviously have you for a few minutes here, and I want to jump right into it with you, and I don't want to begin with a guy that we drafted together Frankie in the first round with the fourth overall pick, and we were excited because Jose Ramirez felt to us with the fourth overall pick.

We've talked a lot about Josie Ramires and every anytime he does anything, we think it's a sign of him king out of a slump. Second half of last year didn't exactly work out so well. The first month of this year was just as bad. Is Jose Ramire is just in a deep slump? Can he not hit a breaking ball? What are you seeing with Josie Ramirez? It's kind of funny like this year is his numbers are actually better against breaking balls than than they are for

his career. He's not hitting the fastball. He's hitting O eighty five against the fastball this year, which is just atrocious. Um, but he he is such a good fastball hitter that you think at some point that's gonna turn around. Um. I I you know, on our our show at the draft that we did, I was that was the one guy in the in the first round that I I saw like potentially not ending up a first round player because of the numbers against breaking balls. Um, they still

concerned me. I mean, it's it's a super small sample size to to start the year, but um, he's not. It's not like he's ever gonna be a really good breaking ball hitter in my opinion. And with that being the case, UM, I think he's I didn't think he was going to be as bad as he's been this far, but I think he will be better, um, you know, over the course of the season, but not still not elite.

I think he's going to settle in as like a you know, a twenty homer guy, you know, more like this year and and maybe um but but you know, lower average than he's hit in the past. He's obviously not getting on base as much as stolen bases are gonna be down. UM. I think that that to me is the biggest concern with him. UM. In regards to this year because you expect him to hit the fastball, and he's seeing a lot of fastballs and he's not

hitting them. And I almost wonder if it's almost in his head about the breaking balls, where he's he's thinking, I need to work on my breaking ball so much that it is taken away from his ability to hit

the fastball. And that's a really, really good point, because the fastball last year was never an issue, and the breaking ball, he pointed out to me yesterday, Frank has traditionally been one in his career, so raving right that he's just so focused on not missing that breaking ball or recognizing the breaking ball, he's just laid on all these fast balls under one's batting against a fastball. It's ridiculous.

And we've been using the expected stats over on Baseball Savant using their stat cast data, and his expected batting average GREG on fastballs this year is to seventy one,

So it seems like he's been a bit unlucky. I do agree with the point that Brad made that he's probably in his own head here regarding the breaking balls, and it might be throwing him off a little bit with the fastballs, But I mean there's a huge difference between his current batting average against fastballs and his expected batting average, and same thing with his slugging percentage greg to seventy four slugging percentage against fastballs this year his

expected slugging percentage five three. It just seems like he's been a little bit unlucky. I think once the weather starts to warm up a little bit, especially you know, playing in the Al Central, they played in some cold weather locations to start the year, and and Cleveland as well, I think we're gonna see the ball will start to fly out a little bit as well. But overall, I do agree that this breaking ball issue, that's exactly what it is. It's an ongoing issue when it comes to

Jose Ramirez. So maybe we don't get the two eight plus batting average that we were expecting out of him, but he's not a sub two hitter either. I think he'll probably raise it up to a round two fifty sixty, but he probably won't get to the batting average we all thought that he was going, and that means he won't get to the value that we all thought we were gonna potentially get fine stolen basis too, and I think the home runs are gonna come and bunches once

the weather starts to heat up a little bit. What overall, you're probably right about that. Are we gonna get the thirty thirty that we were expecting? Probably not, But if he settles in Homers and still gives us thirty steals with a t S, I think based on this first month, owners will probably take that. You're probably right when it comes to Jose Ramirez um and what he could give us over the next four months after the debacle that was the month of April. Speaking about debacles, I feel

like Tom Haller Rangers are thinking right now. He's spoken a lot about this as well this week, particularly the conduct extension that they gave their young closer Josie Look. After one month, it hasn't gone all that well, Brad.

And it's funny because I actually think back to two years ago with Edwin Diaz, who was this young closer for Seattle, and they didn't give him the contract extension, but like he was somebody that was coming up and everyone was really excited about and he's dunk and they had to pull him from the closer role for really really about a week or two put him back in and then he became the dominant lights out guy that

we saw most of the last season. Last night, notwithstanding la Clark is in this spot where he just had beginnings after beginnings after beginnings with Texas and Chris, what were their manager was like at this point, we have no choice. We have to move move him into lower levelage situations. We're sitting here kind of speculating that veteran Shean Kelly, who's done it before, we the closer, and it's not unfamiliar territory for for you, Brad, as you

obviously had that role before. A closer is there, they don't get the jobs done. You kind of go in there and take over. How do you see this from both Shawn Kelly's perspective and from the perspective of the Rangers and who said the clerk, How do you break

down this entire situation in Texas well? For me, I I think this is a scenario where I would be scared um to have the clerk on my team for the rest of the year, because it's one thing if if it happens with a veteran and and you know, at some point there's a track record of bouncing back after after a rough stretch. You don't have that with the clerk, And so it's it's possible that this is a little bit of a longer, a longer issue that that you know that you might be dealing with here.

I think there's a really good chance that Shawn Kelly takes his job and runs with it, and and you know it is the closer, you know, you know, deep into the second half the season, not that the clerk won't get a shot necessarily again, and obviously they feel like he's the guy long term there. So I would say, for you know, any kind of a Dynasty League twenty, you're probably fine, um, you know, looking at him, but I would be very concerned this year. It's his numbers

are are scary. He can't close out a three run save against the Pirates the other night. Um, it's it's it's a major confidence issue and for a young a young kid, a lot of times that's a really tough thing to overcome. So, um, I would be very hesitant to expect a lot out of him, especially in the

next two or three months. Um, hopefully they can get him on track pitching it on lower level of situations, but even then as they start moving in back up the pecking order, uh for Foren or the twenty nineteen

you know bullpen for Texas. I think there's a really good chance that he he kind of gets into that seventh eighth inning role is doing well, but Kelly is still pitching well in the ninth and if they're winning baseball games with him, they're not going to take him out of that role slelely to get the guy that they paid a little more money to, uh, you know,

back in that job. They want to keep that guy's confidence high going into the next season because I don't think anyone, um, you know, thinks that Texas Rangers are competing for an a OS title this year, so they're they're more concerned about the long term situation, and that was why they gave him the contract in the first place, locking down long term, try to control his money. Um And and right now, you know, after a month into

the season, it doesn't look like a great idea. But I think by the end of the year it'll balance itself out and and he'll be ready to go next year. But I would you know, for saves this year. Um, I think Kelly's a guy for the for a good majority the rest of the season for Texas. And that's really interesting because you mentioned that contratect extension and tying him up for the long term. They have to get him right for the long term like that. That's the plan,

that's why they invested this money. So you think there's a very good chance that Sean Kelly runs away with it. But as someone that's been there, the Rangers aren't really going to compete we think for for the Al West title. Maybe this is an opportunity for them to get killing the closing role for the next month or two and then trade him away and then get and then give

a clerk his job back. Is that realistic? Yeah, absolutely, it's I mean they're all you're always looking for ways to to create value with players, especially veteran guys that are they're on short contracts that you want to try

to move with the deadline. You know, if he goes out and has has the next two or two or three months where he pitches really well, yeah, he'll absolutely be traded and and um then then you have a chance in August and September two to get the clerk back or or you know, you can get at least evaluate where he's at at that time and see if he's gonna be the guy, if it will be somebody else. But it's not a lot different than the pottery last

season with brad Hand. You know, like brad Hand is not a traditional closer, but but you put him into that role. He was doing really well. They got a ton back for him and in trade value, so uh, it made sense from San Diego standpoint at that time. I could see the same thing happening with Texas this year. Speaking of closures, Brad, I didn't want to bring up the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim situation right now. Cody

Allen was very ineffective to start the season. They're not exactly tied into him the way that the Rangers are tied into the clerk. They signed Cody Allen to a one year deal and they have a veteran behind him in handled robots has that has been around for a little bit and we see, you know, yeah, points to this guy type. Butchery has been pitching the seventh, the eighth, ending the setup role for them, and he's been very effective. How do you think the Angels bullpen plays out here

moving forward? I would think they probably want to leave Butchery in the role that he's in now. UM, he's having success there. He's a young guy. I mean, he's basically he's got such a small sample size in the big leagues that that his September last year is basically his April this year. He's he's almost duplicated the numbers. Would that be in the case you you you kind of don't want to move him around a whole lot,

because again, I don't know that the Angels. Maybe maybe they're a team that UM is up playing better down the stretch, but they that's you know, you look at this division, you're thinking it's it's Seattle, Oakland and Houston. They're going after this title, and so the Angels are are going to be more concerned with the long term development of other players. I don't think there is concerned,

UM with with their their roles right now. They obviously want to win games, because you want to build confidence in a in a winning environment. UM, but I think they're gonna take a guy who's got a you know, a little closing experience. I think you know, Roy's probably had two or three saves uh coming into the season in his career just kind of in in random spots. Um, but he he is a veteran pitcher, he's been around a long time. He's had good success year after year.

So there's a really good chance that that he's gonna do fine in that role. Obviously, you know, like you said, they don't have a ton invested in Cody Allen. He was really bad in the second half last year and and down the stretch and so they um to the point where the Indians lost lost complete complete faith in him and and how to go and get Brad hands. So, um, it's I don't think. I think Allan's probably done in

that role. Not that he can't be uh you know, I'm, um, you know, an effective middle inning guy, but he's gotta get healthy first. And um, I think Robots is probably the guy right now and Buttery, Buttery moves to the eighth inning and and um, I still, if it's me, I actually would prefer Buttery over Robosts because I think because all of his other numbers is gonna be better except for the saves. If you need just saves, Robots is probably the guy, or or Shawn Kelly like we

talked about. But um, I think there's a really good chance that the buttery is actually the guy that you need um to to help all the other the other four categories with your you know your you know you are a whip strikeouts that kind of stuff, you know, Rad Ziegler here and and Rad, before I move on to Marlin's pitchers, do you want to eat your thoughts?

And we don't have a couple of minutes left with you, but what do You're a pitcher and you go like this, You point to the guy like you think it's pop up, and it consistently goes over the fence as handel robeless constantly does How do your teammates react to that? Uh, well, it happened to me, or well, at least one time in my career. No one, unfortunately, I don't know anyone else in my team saw it, but it did happen.

Hector Sanchez on the Giants hit a fly ball to center field in San Francisco, and it was one of those random games where the day game in San fran the wind was blowing out to the center and and it legitimately, you know, should have been a fly ball, but it was. It was one of those days in in San Francisco was a really high sky, no clouds in the sky. Um, and and so it would be one that you know, we hit it high enough and and far enough that it would be easy for for

a center fielder to lose. So I pointed up and and uh, you know, unfortunately it landed in like the front row of the seats in center field. And um, it wasn't a good feeling because I just walked away from it thinking like he I really didn't think he

hit the ball that well. And you know, the thirty wind on the on the bay in San fran you know, put pushed it out, but um, from road lays to standpoint, like at some point, you know, in in the minor leagues in in you know, when you're in in America, at least in high school and college, a lot of times you play on fields where the lighting isn't that good. And you know, whether it's daytime, nighttime. You know, even in a day game, you may not have a great

backdrop behind the hitter. Um, so you end up up. You just kind of learned as a as a picture to point at everything in the air, whether it's to the catcher, whether it's to the outfielders whatever, because you just want to let them know if they didn't pick it up off the bat where it's at in the big leagues. That's a tough habit to break because you don't need to do that with the with the lights, um, the you know, there are a lot better on most fields.

They've got good back drops behind the hitters most of the time, um for the fielders to see. So it's it's it's a tough habit to break. And at the same time, UM, you know, if they're hitting home runs when you're doing it, it's not a not a good feeling as a picture. And um, at some point, you know, there's probably gonna be somebody to say, like, dude, you gotta stop doing it. Um. I know we had a break in about a minute. You have like five more minutes.

You can hang with us, just talk about the Marlins. Awesome, Okay, So we got the break coming up, so we're gonna talk to Brad. We can come back. And we had this conversation throughout really April, and it was how to rank these Marlins starting pitchers and we've been through it with it was basically everybody, but who say, you're right there right, like Caleb Smith and Trevor Richards and Sandy Alcantara and Pablo Lopez. And we're constantly trying to figure

out how are we going to rank these guys? And my thoughts are Frank you give his thoughts in Florida wouldventure and everybody gave their thoughts. What I wanted to why I wanted to ask Brad was he pitched with most of these guys a year or two ago, or at least had seen them up close, so he knows there's stuff way better than we do. And we can talk about Pablo Lopez all we want, but I thought, Brad,

I'll be very, very incightful with that. So coming up after the break, we're going to get into the Marlins and we're going to get into what Brad seas and how we ranked them and how badly you should need them and want to pick them up. Also, coming out a little bit later on next Or will be joined by Dr A from Inside Injuries, and we'll go over everything from Corey Kluber all on A. J. Pollock and

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Frank Snaffle, Gregg Sousman. Here, Brad Ziegler hanging out with us another few minutes and Brad we we jumped into the bubble pens. We jumped him to josieer Mirrors, a guy that you had talked about before the season began up with us, and now I want to jump in

with the Marlins. Nobody really expects all that much from the Marlins, and understandably so it's a rebuilding here have a they have nine way on the season, and yet Caleb Smith is three and l with a bright e r a, a ton of strikeouts and everything looking good. People seem to love Pablo Lopez coming into the season. I was really all about sandy 'all, Gantara, how do you break down this Marlins rotation? There's there's no question about that. He had the big time strikeout numbers last

year too before he got hurt. So, um, he's he's uh or I might have been two years ago. I can't remember when when his surgery was, but he's he's big time. He's got great stuff, He's got strikeout stuff, and he has a strikeout mentality that that a lot of younger guys don't have. So, um, you know, you can say what you want about some of the Marlins trades that they made, but they basically stole Caleb Smith from the Yankees and and he's working out really well

for him. Um you know, I like, actually like um Trevor Richards quite a bit that he's just getting dinged up by the home run ball this year. He's his batting average a gifts is really good. It's it's been consistent over the course of the season, and it's it's the last couple of games and he was giving up a couple of homers in each game, and it's it's, you know, ended up kind of ruining bad starts for

him or ruining good starts for him. Um, you know, Lopez has good stuff, but he's it's kind of funny. Is for a guy that throws ninety four he's kind of a finesse guy. He he pitches with change ups a lot. He's kind of a command guy. Didn't have

a power breaking ball. Um, I feel like you're kind of getting even though they're a different style pictures, you're gonna get the same the kind of the same stuff out of out of Lopez and and Richards um al Contra is he's a little more um of a of an enigma because you watch him throw a bullpen and at times you're like, there isn't a picture on earth who could throw a better bullpen than what he just threw, and then he gets out in the game and it's

just not the same. It's, you know, he's tentative. Um. He he you know, will will leave pitches up when you know in the bullpen he's not doing that. And and I don't know exactly what changes I you know, I didn't get a chance to see him enough to to really try to evaluate it, because in his bullpen he's he's just, um, always under control, got really good body control, good, you know, good smooth the every and then he gets in the game and everything is just

a little different. I don't know if it quickens up for him a little bit, um, but he's He's had, you know, obviously some some rough starts this year, you know, with a couple of good ones mixed in. And I really don't know that any of the three guys are guys that you really want to count on unless you're in a super deep league. Um. But Caleb Smith, I think he's absolutely legit. I think he's a real deal.

I think what you're seeing right now. I don't know that he's going to carry a two e r A all season, um, but I think the strikeout number is gonna be there. And and he is walk rate is a little lower this year, which is a good sign. Um. I I really like him I think he's he's got a you know, a really good season ahead of him, and and a next good next few years ahead of him too. I agree totally regarding Caleb Smith. This tweenie strike rate second in all of baseball right now, behind

only Blake Snail. So that tells you the type of company that he's been in. And he's got what thirties seven strikeouts to eight walks three and oh even with you know the Marlins offense backing him there, he's giving you linked now to he goes seven innings pitched last night. Absolutely love mygree Caleb Smith. I'm I'm ready to say, Greg, he's the top forty starting pitcher right now, maybe even higher. We might even have to put him into the top thirty.

He pitches in a great ballpark, two in Marlins Park. I think the biggest key for him this year as compared to last year is the walks being down for him. I mean that that was a bugaboo for him, but at least eight strikeouts in three street he has at least six strikeouts and all six of his starts. Caleb Smith is absolutely legit. I agree, Bread, I appreciate it.

I will say before I go there. This is a off topic, but but um, this is a guy touted early in the season, and obviously Greg Holland is pitching probably better than anybody um thought he would in Arizona. But I mentioned the guy um when when we were at that draft in New York. Juan Lopez is the lights out for his owner right now and he's moving up the pecking order there and if Holland struggles at some point, gets hurt at some point, Lopez is going to be the guy there. So if you have an

opportunity to grab him, that's that's a guy. He's guys, you know, high strikeout numbers, He's he's not walking guys. Um, He's he's gonna be the guy I think. Um, you know at some point there he's gonna be the long term closer in Arizona. There you go. You want Lopez, the guy that Brad has been touting since March to us. You may not have a shot yet because of Greg Holland, but keep your eye out for him, Brad. Before we let you go, where can people listen to you and

uh find out more about you? I'm doing a podcast for the Athletic now, UM that that's been a lot of fun. It's it's a lot of fantasy football. Um. Uh, we dabble in fantasy baseball a little bit. But um with the draft comp you know, having just happened, we were digging into football quite a bit right now. Um. It's it's you know, if you have an Athletic subscription

the show, it's called Sports Unsealed. Uh, it's it's a lot of fun and and you know, hopefully I'll be seeing you all every Thursday for for a long time now, we hope. So man, that's Brad Ziegli. Listen to his podcast on the Athletic and follow him on Twitter as well. Brad, we appreciate the time. We'll talk to you next week. Sounds great. Thanks yess. Also there we go for major League reliever. Brad Ziegler joins us each and every Thursday

around this time year on the BFS. So, Caleb smith Man, that's kind of this one of the biggest stories we're getting. Corey cluer that's one of the biggest stories coming out. Oh the last night, how he was stolen really from the Yankees. Brad Casher doesn't make any bad trades. This seems to be a big loss for them. And I don't even think he was part of the standard trade, Greg, he was partly, was not part of the stand Trede. We just got international money, I believe. Is that what

it was. It was a very just kind of low key. I know I thought it was. It was not part of the stand I know it's not part of the standard trade. It was part Well you looked at up Cable Smith has that's why. Okay, so you're right, So I knew it was Garrett Cooper, but it's Garret Cooper that almost went to Miami with him in exchange for picture Mike King and bonus money. So here right, it was basically bonus money. Yeah it was. Yeah, it's it's been. Yeah, one of the one of the bad moves that Cashman

has done. And Cashman has done great work overall, but yeah, I mean to see what Cable Smith is doing right now. He's got two point zero zero e r A on the season. It's fifth two point eight one his X fit two point nine six guys Ill Smith, pretty damn legit, he's not gonna pitch to a two R T E r A. Uh, similar to what Brad was saying. But can he pitch to a low three's e r A. He's got eleven k per nine, he's got a zero

point eight three whip right now. This guy is absolutely legit. Greg, I think he's been one of the biggest breakout starting pitchers alongside guys like Tyler Glass. Now he's been amazing. The craziest thing for me is you can't count on wins, obviously, especially out with the Marlins. The fact that he's with three three three of the ninth category contributor. Either way, he's gonna give you e ra's gonna be whip, he's

gonna get you kouts. He's not gonna give you saves, obviously, because he's a starting pitcher, um, and it helps him. He's need more of a flyball pitcher. Surround ball rade for the year, he's forty point eight percent flyball, so years more towards fly balls when he gives up contact. I mentioned the swinging strike grade second in baseball behind only Blake Snell. So he doesn't give up a lot of contact, but when he does, it's flyballs. And it

helps Greg that he pitches in Marlins Park. Obviously, when you give up fly balls as your main source of context. So it seems like everything's working right for for Caleb Smith right now. Yeah, absolutely no reason to sell. I'm

not selling. I don't either now unless someone comes to you with some crazy offer, like they're going and like head over heels right now to try and get Caleb Smith like a classic cell high by Low do you trade him for If someone comes to you right now and they're like, I've had enough of Walker Bueller, you Walker Buller for Caleb Smith. Yes, I'm doing that. Yes, I'm doing that, Frank, Frank, I'll played the fifth. I don't know, man, Caleb Smith is nasty right now, Frank, nasty?

All right? Canybe this year is like Blake Snell light Why can't he He's unbelievable, unbelievable, walks her down. I don't want to trade him. I don't want to turn Okay, keeping Caleb Smell on the rust shows your room, allow

to run yesterday pup his fifth save. The other side of this game was Corey Klueber, who would affords you thirds three runs on eight hits, struck out three uh, much more importantly than that comeback or off the arm, and not only they originally like there's a broken forearm, and that changed after the game, right Frank, which is or is a bruise warm and then became a broken farm.

So it was I think that's ultimately what happenedt he goes for the X rays, m R I, whatever it is, it comes out that he has a fractured forearm, and we'll find out more an hour to what the timetable is looking like for Corey Kluber. That's a really tough break, no pun intended for the Cleveland Indians and for fantasy

owners alike. Right now, one of my buddies in one of in my home league has both Corey Kluber and Mike Clevinger, So just a huge hit if you drafted both of those guys or if you're the Cleveland Indians to lose both of those starting pitchers. Who know, Corey Kluber was not has not been himself so far this year, but my Clevinger was awesome. So hopefully we get an update on my Clevinger moving forward sometime soon. I was

watching the game the other day. I know he's just kind of started up when we have started throwing a little bit, but Corey Kluber greg at five point eight zero e r A, and we had concerns over him coming into the year. We couldn't exactly put our finger on what it was. Maybe it was just the fact that he's throwing so many endings over the past couple

of years, he's getting older. It seemed like, you know, the fastball velocity and his this overall, the success or lack thereof of the fastball the past couple of seasons and last year specifically, we were worried about it coming to the year. I don't have any shares of Clueber. I don't think you have any shares of clueber Um. And we ranked him maybe slightly lower than the consensus ranking. We weren't completely off on him, but it just seemed

like it. But if it was him or someone else in that range on the board, more often than that, we were going away from Clueber. Yeah, I remember, I would have taken Bower over Clueber. You know, you know it's actually crazy. No, yes, I would have as well. But I think back to the last draft I did. I was drafting me from my friend and so the highest guy on his board was Corey Cluber and I was I wasn't homes I didn't have like the draft board in front of me. I had like emails. I

was kind of going back and forth and whatnot. But so I missed that Corey Club didn't get drafted, and instead I drafted the next highest picture I thought on his board, which turned out to be Steven Strassburg. And I apologize now. I apologize to him. He's just honestly like it's close enough, Like I don't have him that far away anyway, So it's all good. Shoot, h A text does man something? Sure? It does, man. It's working out right now. I mean most people wouldn't have done that,

just in fact, even I wouldn't have done that. I wouldn't have taken Strasberg over to Clubber. But the way that the first month is played out, and I mean all of these things are relative. Right now. We're only about, you know, six seven starts into the season for most of these starting pictures, so small sample size. But from what we've seen, something is not right for Clubber. Um. That's not the reason why he broke his forearm yesterday.

But you know, we'll see what the timetable is like from Dr A and hopefully comes back and and it's closer to the picture that he's seen the past couple of years, the Indians having just brutal injury re luck Man with with Clev, with Bauer, I'm sorry, with Clev, with Kluber, Lindor Early exactly, Kiftness early as well, really really struggling. Unfortunately for the Cleveland needs and their lineup

is hasn't put it together yet either. I mean, I know they were facing Caleb Smith last night, but overall their offense, even with lind Or in there, has been lack luster. They're starting to get these guys back. Lindor Hittness, we spoke about Cargo the other day. A little bit coming around here. I think gets one hit. I think positive regress. I just realized I had a dream that involved Carlos Gonzalez and you, Like I don't remember the contact.

I just remember Carlos Gonzalez being like a major part of Finn in the argument with you over him, which might have also happened in real life. But I did had this vivid dream of Carlos Gonzalez. I knew in it. You don't remember. I don't remember the context. I just remember now. I would have much rather have been Malix Smith, Greg, it was not mal Smith. It was Carlos Gonzalez. I promise you. I promised you. Was um anything else with

this Marlins Indians game before we move on. Frankie Um no, I mean pretty standard spoke about the lineup really underperforming right now. I gotta give them at least the next two three weeks. By the end of May. If we're not seeing this Indian's line up turning around with Jose Emiraz and Francisco Lindor, I'm gonna really start to push the panic button because at that point, like to meet Greg, I don't. I don't know where your cut off is, Greg, But when we get some Memorial Day I feel like

that's enough data for teams overall and players overall. We have two months of data at that point where we can kind of make some serious judgments on them Memorial Day. So I'm gonna give the Indians until then, and if they don't turn it around, that's when I'm starting to put push the panic button on this offense. I usually put my barometer around April ten. Yeah, you know so rational. You're not a rational Fantasy baseball so Memorial Day is

irrelevant to me. Um, But in all, in all seriousness, it's a case by case basis, right, Like there's certain guys that Malex Smith being one of them. He brought him up that I don't need to wait around to Memorial Day. I'm cutting him for a guy like like on the Indians and pictures and whatnot. It's case by case. It's what they've done, it's what I believe they can do. It's a prospect that it can be guarant Hampson is another one. I know you talking about him a lot

because I had him. I wasn't winning around until Memorial Day to see a guarant Hampson figure it out. I got the playing time, he he doesn't play. I cut him a guy like Ryan McMahon who's gotten relatively cold as of late. I'm not gonna say I'm gonna wait around it for a Memorial Day for him. We'll see, Like if a second baseman gets really hot, they haven't been second basement that I've gotten hot, like Day of Santanna has second base eligibility. But I'm not gonna necessarily

wait around for that. Now. We somebody tweeted us before, like yas C. L. Plea is a really good example I'm waiting around towards Memorial Day for Yas Week. But you get into June and yea, if week still batting under two hundred, then you can fairly have the conversation is if we should cut Yasale we that's a fair conversation to have in June. It's not a fair conversation to have now. I agree with that. It is a case by case basis, and I would make the argument

that you presented Ryan McMahon. I think he's a He's a good one to hold onto to see through the month of May, because Colorado is about to have a ton of games this month in coors Field and go up against some questionable pitching staff. So I would actually be on the other side of the fence when it comes to Ryan McMahon. I know he was a player that a lot of people picked up, and normally, if it's a guy that you just pick up and they're not performing, i'd say, all right, you could probably cut

that player. But when it comes to Ryan McMahon being part of the Rockies lineup and coors Field and you have all these kind of advantages, I gotta hold onto him through May until Memorial Day and see what happens when he has these games in corps Field and going up against these questionable pitching staff so on on the

other side of the fence. But for the most part, when it comes to players that we just pick up, I think you can have a looser, shorter leash rather when it comes to some of those guys, no, no question about it. Now, a guy that you were very very out on coming into this season, and not that, not just you. I'm not calling I'm not calling you out. I'm calling me. I mean in the entire industry, and rightfully so, because every underlying number about John Lester said

he sticks, and I get it. He's thirty five years old. There is no side when it comes to John Lester. So everybody just left Lester on the board. And again I get it. I'm not calling anybody. I'm not calling you out either, Frankie, but draft the John Lester because he was like that guy on the board that you looked at and you're just like, this guy is still there. I guess I'll take him. And I felt so gross about it. On draft day I tried to trade him

along with Wilson Wilson Traris for Jose Kantana. Literally as my draft was going on, I was attempting to do this. But Lester has been pretty good going into yesterday. I know he was on the I L briefly Mrs Stark, but he's in't pretty good and yesterday against admittedly a cold Seattle lineup. Now, yesterday he was at his best. He allowed one hit, one walk, struck out eight over

seven innings of work. His ear RAY sits at one point seven three right now for John Lester, who has been every bit as good as you could have possibly hoped, honestly better when you took him in the middle rounds of your draft. Now, much like last year, he's fipping x fit significantly higher. Right last year his ear A finished at three point three to his ex fit was at four point four three. This year that e r A sits at one point seven three, where it will

not stay. He's X at three four two. Difference is frank and he gives me a three point four to e r A or around there. I'm cool with it. Absolutely, Yeah, that's a valuable picture. I would like to take this time to personally apologize to John Lester and Madison Bumgarner, who we have to talk about at some point today as well. You're absolutely right. You hit the nail on the head, Greg. When it comes to John Lester and

his X fit this year three four two. Even if he regresses from a one seven three e r A up to a mid three's e r A, that's a picture worth owning. I will say this. His swinging strike rate is nearly identical to what it was last year. So when you look at the strikeouts overall in the Caper nine being over nine right now, he should probably be closer to where it was last year year, you know,

seven and a half, case for nine, maybe eight. I do like that at the command to control the lack of walks has been much better this year for John Lester. We can talk about this a little bit more when we come back, but overall he's doing some really nice things. I'm sorry, John Lester. We'll talk more about Lester and another veteran coming out here. The BFFs, the Fantasy Sports Network is ready to take you out to the ball game.

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and get your temper discount today for you. We got a really interesting question I just saw on the short and someone asked, I was mighty and peg you trade away to Mingo Santana and Chris Archer to get Marcelo Zuna. I don't think so. My initial reaction is that seems like a lofty price. Yeah, I don't. I don't think that's a little it's a little thought. It was interesting. I mean, that's that's the value of Marcello Zuna right now.

It's interesting. He's been absolutely dominant he's been awesome. We talked about that the other day. I mean, he was. He was one of the guys that we missed on because we were worried about the shoulder injury during the spring, and as he shut us up. He's been absolutely awesome. And Domingo Santana and the Mariners have, you know, quieted down a little bit. They they've become a little bit cold. But I still have faith in Chris Archer. Once he returns,

we'll see. I could see if if you're like loaded with starting pictures, Greg, maybe you make that move. But I would still imagine Mingo, Santana and Archer together maybe if you get more than Marcel's. I don't know, I under undervaluing I'd like to think you can. Maybe we still are undervaluing him, but i'd like to think you can now during the break, I guess not fair during the break, but like during the lead up to twenty nineteen, one of the main reasons you didn't like John Lester

was because nothing had changed. His arsenal was still the same last year and it just wasn't nearly as effective. He had the great defense behind him, Sure, but you look for changes in a picture as a reason to buy or as a reason to fade with John Lester this year, one of the reasons that you're in on him is because of a change in pitch selection. What are you seeing when you look into the underlying numbers when it comes to John Lester. So, John Lester is

obviously an aging picture. He's a veteran and he's got to do things a little bit differently. Reminds me of C. C. Sabathia or the past couple of seasons. How he's been able to maintain a you know, sub three seven e r A each of the past three years because he's changed up his pitching style. He's using more breaking pitches, He's throwing a cutter a lot more. And it seems to be the case with John Lester here so far on the season, he's throwing his cutter thirty three point

nine percent of the time. Last year that number was twenty four point seven percent of the time. So he's using that cutter more. And it's additioned by subtraction is fastball. He's he's a smart pitcher. Again. He knows that his fastball velocity is diminishing and with that, the effectiveness of

his fastball is also diminishing. So he's lowered his usage on his fastball about eight percentage points this year, and he's up to his cart car usage by eleven percent and it seems to be one of the biggest differences. I do think that there is gonna be some regression

at some point. He's not going to maintain a one seven three e r A. So you're gonna have him in the in your line up for those starts where he gives up three runs, maybe four runs, He'll probably get that e r A up to around the mid three is um, you know, three, three, six, whatever it might be. But overall, I mean, if he gave you that with the run support of the Cubs, you're gonna

get a lot of wins from him too. So overall all this has been pretty good man Lester and the Cubs beat the Mariners eleven nothing yesterday on the other side, So this was, uh, this is very interesting, Frankie, you had I'm very confused by this. Now, this is this is this has to be backwards. The Mariners pitching staff

is just like wrong. They're assuming Marco Gonzalez got started, got rocked, right, Okay, So I don't know what has Tom Murphy ahead of on the Tom Murphy's a catcher, so that doesn't make sense picture alert ESPN has it like that anyway, So one of Gonzalez started probably stop when an inning in two thirds allowed five hits, six runs, three of them will earned three walks to strike as even really good thus far is his first loss the season was fight going into last night or yesterday after

what happened, he ran into a tough lineup. Obviously, the Chicago Cubs. Um that's exactly what they are. They're a tough lineup. They're They're a team that takes a lot of pitches. They're patient. Uh, they wait for the right pitch. If you don't give it to them, they're gonna walk. It's gonna be next man up mentality. Uh and every now and then you're gonna run into one of these games where they're gonna blow you up. I mean, hovey.

They have a lot of talent on this team. They have Javier Bias, they have Wilson and tradrist, Chris Bryant, Anthony Rizzo. Another one yesterday, he goes deep. It wasn't off Marco Gonzalez, but that's the depth of this lineup, So he ran into a really tough lineup Greg. And this is gonna happen from time to time for Marco Gonzalez because he's not a picture that gets swings and misses.

He pitches to contact, and if there's a day where he runs into the wrong team Greg and he's pitching the contact and they're making hard contact and not the soft contact he's used to getting, then he's gonna be prone to some of these starts. He's got a three point to eight e er A, he's got a four point four nine x fit right now, So there was some regression coming from Mark Hogginzalez. Overall, I still like him a lot, but I just know there's gonna be

some inconsistency at time. They're like you, he's one of those guys that you just leave him in there. You take the good with the bad. Yeah, he's one. He's one of these like Rhodo pictures End of the year numbers, like he's probably gonna give you a mid three z r A a solid wit because he doesn't walk a lot of guys, but he's not gonna give you strikeouts,

and you just take the good with the bad. But there's gonna be bad because he pitches in contact and when he runs into a hot lineup like the Chicago Cubs, and he's gonna be prone to some of these pretty big glow ups. Greg. Now you had, as you mentioned the home runs yesterday, Anthony Rizzo and Javier Biez, Wilson and Trairis as well. Contrairis has his eighth home run of the season already. Anthony Rizzo number one catcher thus far this year. Through a month he has Money Grandall

number two. Um. Anthony Rizzo his seventh home run of the year. We we poop poo rizzle a lot. It's only seven home runs in the season already. Frank will obviously take that and run with it. Javier Buys his homewarwn was his tenth hole run of this season. I read an interesting note about Bias. It looks like he's gonna continue to start every day at shortstop. Addison Russell. When he's elder world come off the suspension list will be option to triple A. Yeah, interesting note there. I

do want to touch on Wilson Trairis a little bit. Greig, this is another one of those guys that we've said the past couple of years, kind of similar to Marcella Zuna, Christian Yellows all in the same division. What do you know, the National League Central if he's just would up his launch angle a little bit, stop hitting as many ground balls. You know, his first three seasons in baseball, he's been a fifty two percent plus groundball percentage hitter. That is Wilson,

k and Treiers. He hit only ten home runs last year. He already has eight on the season and it's May second. Why part of that is his groundball rate, He's lowered by twelve percent Gregg, It's forty point seven percent groundball rate this year for Wilson and Tis. The fly ball rate right now a career high forties six point three percent. Last year, he said a previous career high of thirty percent fly balls. So he's consciously trying to put the ball in the air more greg and at hard hit

rate as well for Wilson con Trairis. So everything is pointing to, you know, Wilson and Trairis keeping up this hot streak right now. The strikeouts are a little bit worrisome. He's got a twenty eight percent strikeout rate um, much higher than his career average. That's but he's hitting the ball hard, he's lifting it more, he's walking more as well.

So look, if that's what needs to happen, If if he needs to keep his strikeouts up for us to get the rest of this production from Wilson contrators, I'm perfectly fine with it. And this is just another example, Greg where please remind me next year during draft season when it comes to players that have serious pedigree, kind

of just throw the underlying numbers out the window. Because Cody Bellinger, we know what his pedigree was coming into the year, and I wasn't necessarily on Cody Bellinger, and I'll admit that he but he had immense pedigree, he had immense upside, and we see what he's doing right now.

Wilson and Trairis another one of those players, jo want Mankata kind of just probally underlying numbers out the window because these guys who have pedigree, more often than not, Greg, if they're sticking around in the majors, they're gonna figure it out. We're seeing it with a lot of these guys right now. I mean specifically, but Bellinger, Wilson and Rariss and uh y'aw Moncada. You kind of throw those

underlying numbers out and especially in draft season. I mean, all these guys were undervalued, and if you have any or all of them, you're sitting pretty right now. Greg, Absolutely, You're You're You're feeling really, really good at the moment if you own any of those guys. Absolutely. Frankie John Lester I mentioned as a veteran that has changed it up a little bit. And you're buying him. We're not buying him. I mean, I don't mean you're buying him.

You're buying that. This is real, is what he's doing to this degree, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not going out there and trading for Johns. The point was another veteran who you didn't like coming into this season was Madison bum Garner and Bummy yesterday against a fierce Dodgers lineup six innings four hits, also struck out eight, allowed two walks in just one run, throwing a fourteen

pitches over his six innings of work. Didn't get the win, as the Giants wouldn't score until the bottom of the ninth anyone Buster Posey walked it off. But Madison Bumgarner now is the r right under four You hated him coming into this year. Has your opinion changed at all? Yeah, it absolutely has. I mean, there's another apology to do here for Madison Bumgarner, same as John Lester. Maybe it was just, you know, the wonky stuff that's been going

on in the past couple of years. The the dirt bike accident, the you know, getting hit on the hand last year and and basically breaking his hand or breaking his fingers, whatever it was. He's had a lot of weird stuff going on in the past couple of seasons, Greg, But what he's doing this year is working. The underlying numbers are there for him. He's got an eleven point one percent swinging strike rate, that would be his highest

since his first pitch strike percentage seventy two percent. He's really attacking the strike zone early on and counts better than he's ever done before, and he's because of that, it gives him the ability to do different things later on accounts to try and keep hitters off balance his oatswing, his chase rate. Basically, he's getting opposing batters to chase pitches outside the strike zone nearly thirty six percent of the time. If the season ended today, Greg, that would

be a career high for medicine. Bumgarner, we're talking about a guy who is thirty, about to be thirty years old, and well not about to be in August. He's gonna be thirty years old. It seems like he's much older. It's because he's been around forever and he's thrown as many endings as he has, and seemingly he's putting together underlying numbers that are career highs. Right now, he's got a three nine two ear a. You mentioned, he's got the ear a under four. The fit is three to six,

the x FIP is three six three. He's around a strikeout for ending the command again one point four four walks per nine massive. Bum Garner has been awesome. I mean, just to be honest, he's I'm looking at the pitch usage too. It's not really anything that he's changed up. He's throwing the change, the changeup on it not you know, pun not intended. He's going to change up a little

bit more this year overall, throwing the curveball last. I mean, it doesn't seem like he's really changing anything up to his arsenal overall, but for whatever reason, he's keeping hitters off balance. I think a lot of it comes down to the command of his pitches, just establishing the strike zone early on accounts and keeping hitters off balance. You know, it gives him that ability to do things later on and counts that maybe he hasn't been able to do

in years past. He's really and it's weird to say he's been around forever. He's maturing as a picture. He's awesome right now. I apologize, who would you rather have John Lester Mass Bumgarner going forward? I'll take Bumgarner just because he's younger and he pitches in a better ballpark. Um. But yeah, Like, if if I own either one, I feel times better than when I did on draft day.

Drafting these guys like you would have had to pin me into a corner Greg somewhere to force me to draft one of these guys like I could have either to them on any of my teams. I think I have six or seven re draft teams where I set my line up every single week. I don't have either of these guys, and that's by design, and right now it looks like I'm mistake. Is a guy that you have on one of those teams? Young John Ryou I don't have any shares of Ryue either. Well, he was

fantastic yesterday as well. Eight innings, four hits, one run, struck out six, didn't walk anybody. The injuries, no doubt, always a concern with him. When he's healthy, he's really good. Yeah, that's just more of the same man. We know how good Ken jin Ryu is. I mean he was awesome last year as well. He pitched to a one nine seven e r A. The problem was only eight two innings. The guy hasn't thrown more than a hundred and twenty six innings since two fourteen. That's a long time. So

there's no doubting Kin Jin Ryou. And really, when it comes to the Dodgers pictures, I know, Modica calls it the Magical Mound. I mean, they just know how to turn pictures around, kind of similar to the Houston Astros. Anyone who pitches for the Dodgers seems like you know they've been awesome, unless you know Walker Bueller this year with a real Walker Bueller, please stand up. It's not a it's not a matter of talent when it comes to hing and righty, Greg, we know how good he is.

He just has to stay on the field. Cody Bellinger stole his sixth base of this season yesterday or anything he can't do. He went wonder for four and it's still batting four twenty five on the season. Folks, It's May second and Bellinger is still batting four with what fourteen home runs, six dollar bases. Give you the exact

line here, Greg, here's what we have. Yety eight hits on the season, fourteen home runs, thirty eight ribbies, six dollar bases, thirty two runs scored, four five average, five ov P. That's a thirteen sixty seven o P s Folks, nationally m V pond they pick him. I know, we both chose Anthony Rendon, which was going quite well until you know, I like you might have we both we both chose Anthony Rendon. Cody Bellinger right now and May second looks like the nationally MVP. If christ Meli can

get healthy. I mean, I'm sure he's something to say about that. He has been awesome as well, but and just all around five tool production. Like we knew Cody Bellinger can steal bases, you might have expected, all right, maybe ten on the aggressive side, fifteen I know we had fifteen last year, he's got six stolen bases. It's a maze. Second. I don't want to do the on pace thing right now, Greg, but I'm gonna do the on pacee thing. The guy's on pace to hit like

seventy home runs with basis what's going on? It's insane, absolutely insane. How about Alex Verdugo. Huh his first first game without a j. Pollock starting in center field, two hits. It's a lefty. A stolen base for Verdugo, I mean, something that we didn't really expect from him. Do you think that's an organizational philosophy thing? This year? Greg, the Johns has just come out and saying, hey, we just got beat by the Red Sox, who were one of

the most aggressive teams last year. We're gonna take a page out of their book. I think so. I think so too. Ave Roberts has the manager absolutely. By the way, we're just looking this up because I was just confirming that I chose Anthony Rendon, which I did. Do you know Chris venture choose is a m v p mm hmm. If you guessed who's a Ramirez, you'd be correct. Oh man, Still time you might get the award for least valuable. Listen, still time. Let's not forget Matt Carpenter's April last year.

Just saying again, guys, it's May second. Let's not overact. Who did I have as my MVP picks? We both had judging rendown. That's not that sucks, that's thanks. Yeah. Yeah, my L m n L Rookie of the Year Peter Alanso doesn't look so bad. Got a shot. It's great right now? Yeah, I think I had. Yeah, it's pretty good too, Ao come back. Hitter of the Year of Dustin Petroia. It looks so good, never came back. What did I have for that? Is actually playing really well?

Batting ever has been a right? I think only has one home run? My a I'll come back. Picture of the Year was Michael Pineda, who got bombed? You chose Aaron Sitches? Were you good? Yeah, he's been right so far, and I'll come back. Hitter was Danny Murphy. You know he starts to come back. You chose You chose Jungo gang By ale My NL picture was Alex riz and your picture was Jose Kitana. Yeah, Jose, Jose, Jose, Jose. We will we will certainly look back at that, coming

out later this summer and checking on stuff. Man, I think that's what that's really the lesson here. I think I told Gary Sanchez, it's my m v P. Last year, I chose. She chose Judge two years in a row. You chose Samurinos, your Cy Young Award winner last year too. We gotta just get away from the Yankees, man, not so good. Not's okoy? All right, We're gonna take a break. When we come back, will be dot by Chris Venturo, the Closer will join us and we'll all talk to

Dr A later on. These hours with Chris took over a whole bunch of stuff from last night we haven't gotten to yet, and it was talk to doctor and the will wrapping things up. Fantasy BFS. One hour down and one we're to go here on fanc s y