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4/10, Part 2: Aces getting rocked, how the homers keep coming, and more...

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Gregg, Frank, and Chris Ventra look at some of the big name aces, like Chris Sale and Aaron Nola, that are getting hit hard to start off the season. The guys question if the fast pace of home runs being hit is the product of a new way of hitting, or if there is a new steroid going undetected. Talkiung about more pitchers getting rocked in their first few starts, the guys look at the values of Trevor Bauer and Walker Buehler. The guys argue over having a stud closer and a versatile relief rotation.

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listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network. Did please just become best friends? Fantasy best Friends forever? Our number two Fantasy best Friends Forever, Fantasy Sports Radio Network. That is Frank Sample. I'm Greg Sosmen, joined today as we are each and every day during the g PM at one pm, our by the Closer, Chris, Chris, what's up? What's up? It's your boy the Closer um talking a little baseball today.

I love baseball, Baseball so old school pasball. I love that when Venture does the lean back thing, he automatically puts his hands out too, like he's like he's sucking something. It's like, you know, muscle memory by you know what I'm saying. Rockies today post poem because of snow the snow in Colorado and the rock expected expected Yeah, which sucks because forrest Field was basically the turnaround that Ronald Lacuna needed breaking back to back days. Umm, who knows.

Maybe you would have made it a third if you got a chance to play today, but unfortunately that game is snowed out. Also unfortunate, a lot of aces got rocked last night, Yes, including your boy Luke CAZy well him too, or man Marquez or man Marquez. First, starting corps Field is what we talked about. This is what we talked about. Greg. First. She starts on the road. Great, great starts Tampa Bay, Miami, Fine, in Miami, Atlanta in coorse Field. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's gonna only start

her Manez when he's on the road. I mean, right now, I guess you'd say, trying not to start in for one start in a weekly when he's at home against a pretty decent hitting team. Three, well, he's your SP three, he's most people's SP three, Like normally my SP three, my top three. Guys. I want to listen, maybe maybe four or five years ago, your SP one, two and three. You're there in there every game because there's there's a lot of great pitches. There's not that many good pitches anymore.

You have sp one sp two of the ones that stick in your line up, s P three. Not always semantics for this guy. Not if Marquez is your s be too. And he screwed up in the draft. Yeah, then he screwed up in the draft. Um, I don't know. I mean, listen, I would be careful with him on at home against teams like the Dodgers, things like that. He was against the Braves. It's a good lineup and we had six swinging strikes, so obviously didn't have it scared up a few balls. Dancey Swanson hit him for

a three run bomb. How about Dancy Swanson? Man, We spoke about him on Monday with Modica. But he's up to four home runs. I believe he has has fifteen ribbies. He's post type, post her mom. Mark hensually had two strikeouts yesterday, which is which is annoying to me. At least straight guys out of here gonna get bombed. Max Free struck out more guys and allowed zero earned runs on the day. Six innings, five boy, my boy. We were talking about him for months now, and we spoke

about this yesterday. I thought he was gonna end up getting rocked in Coors Field. But you know, this Rocky's lineup is not what it normally is. Obviously they're missing David dal They're missing Daniel Murphy. They had had a few guys in there last night, Like I know, they had to call up Zadaza as their right field You say, yeah, not then Daza was leading off of the Rocky, so you know it wasn't there was certainly wasn't there a lineup.

And they also had Josh Flentas in the lineup, which is interesting because why didn't they just use Mark Reynolds against lefty and do But isn't it funny how like the beginning of the season, how things could fall putzo fast. This offense looked like one of the best offenses and then you you get a couple of injuries and the whole thing falls apart and doesn't have a home run yet either, So people might be freaking out about that too, But no, man, Max Freed was awesome. Max Freed was awesome.

Six innings, one run, it was unearned, five hits, one walk. So it gives you the one point zero zero whip flat against the Rockies lineup, Like, I don't really care who's in the Rockies lineup. When you're pitching in Coors Field, it's tough. You only had four strikeouts. That's kind of in the case. The pass two starts, the swinging strikes haven't necessarily been there. And he's predominantly a two pitch pitcher.

You know what I say about two pitch pitchers. I don't normally buy in again last night with Freddy Peraltas. But here's what I'll say regarding Max Freed and why it might be a little bit different is because his two pitches are fastball curveball, and they might be able to work greg because his four steamer averages ninety four point two miles per hour, whereas his max fastball hit ninety seven. So this is the guy that could hit ninety seven. He could get up there. He lives in

the mid nineties. His curveball is a big hook. It's seventy five. Here's a twenty mile per hour difference between his fastball and his curveball. Now, he still might struggle because he only throws two pitches, and if he hangs a curveball and someone's sitting on it, then they're gonna tag him. He only threw six change up yesterday. I would love to see, you know, more of the change up he had once swing strike on the changeup he's got. I would love to see him work that in more.

But it might be it might be able to work a little bit more than let's say a guy like Freddy Parlton, because Freddie paltis his fast. Maybe he gets up too, but most of the time he's and you see him last night he gets rocked. Angels p balls like seventies seven, seventy eight miles per hour. So there's a difference there, but it's not a twenty difference. So to me, Max Freed could be a better version of

Freddy Peralta. Preddy Peralta is tough to trust because as a stream this week because the Angels lineup is really not that good. It is, yeah, exactly outside of Trout. It doesn't really scare me. No, it's not the bottom of that lineup. It's not good and they haven't been hitting anyway. But they give up two home runs to Timmy Listello last night. This is who Freddy Peralta is. If you want to take the good with the bad, you're gonna get some really good good, you're gonna get

some really bad bad. And you know how much I paid for him. To remember, I showed you that the fab I spent fred Peralta. I also thought he had two starts this week. I think he got pushed back to Monday for his next He's gonna have two starts next week, right, I spent eighteen dollars out of Pitching is hard to come by, though. Pitching is very hard to come by, so people just spend a ton of money on and I don't care about sending my fab. I one of those people that will spend this fab

very early in the season. I don't care. You can make zero dollar bids in my league, so it doesn't matter. Um, I want to have a team set and established within the first month of the season. I want the main parts of my team established. And I'm not gonna drop Freddy PEARLTA because I know what he could give me. You know, even if he does get rock withs in a while. I mean, Luke CAZy, that's the case, and you just gotta leave him in for the good and

the bad. Well and when when in the head to head league he's gonna have weeks where he can help you win, the reason you win if he was amazing, and then you're gonna get a few starts like yesterday, because look, this is what I'm talking about, Craig. Yesterday two pitches, seventy of them were the fastball, seventy and it's ninety one seven miles per hour on average. Like

that's the difference. And next free at least he sprinkles in a few other pitches as well, like Freddy Parla through seven chains up yesterday, but seventy fastballs and only fifteen curveballs. At least, you know, Max Freed's fastball to curveball ratio is more like fifty fastballs and like thirty curves.

This is seventy fastballs and fifteen curveballs. It's hard for you to be a picture in the MLB when you throw at seven mile fastball on average and throw it seventy pitches out of ninety two, Greg, where are you stand on Parla? You convinced me last week We had a pearl of the conversation, right we were talking about where he fell in and I was like, he's pretty good, and you were very, very hard on this. Two pitch things. He described it. Well, you've sold me as I tried

to sell you and Jordan's Erman. You have sold me on Freddie PEARLTI on being out on Freddie Parli, saying he told me I actually sold you on selling Right, you showed me being out on Freddie Parl. Correct, I'm sorry, No, No, it's fine. Listen, I'm gonna hold him. I'm gonna play him. Match up. What bass you know it's weekly league. This was a good matchup though, right, this is I didn't work out him. This was supposed to be a good matchup,

and it's it's frustrating. Sometimes you gotta take risks when you're back in the rotation. One more note here on the Braves Rockies are getting in Milwaukee in a second, and they're in CRT and Josh Donaldson. About one in two in this lineup, one's batting one seventy nine, the other ones batting four. You mentioned Dan's by Swanson and Azzi albs. They've had seven, six and se in this lineup. Well, Swanson moved ahead of him. Correct, I'll be has been

ripping anyway. I don't know why. We see some maneuvering here. Frank, you think potentially that could happen. But look, I'm worried about Donaldson thing I would you were always I think I had him rent as in my seventeen eighteen third basement. It's early on in the season. I understand that right now, this guy looks like a shell of his former self, and he just he doesn't look good. I don't think he's horrible, but I think you're right, he's not the

same guy he was. He was elite their basement, Azzie. I'll be like, what I want to look into with Albi's is normally he struggles against right handed pitching. That's why he bats low in the lineup against right He's even though he's a switch hitter. Right if you look back at his Mind League days, he Alway struggled against right into pitching was much better against lefties. So that's why he leads off for the Braves line up when they go up against lefties. And so far in the year, well, actually,

I'm looking at last year's numbers. I don't know why I would do that. En splits, he's hitting four or seventeen against lefties. Okay, bets, he's hitting against right so he's hitting well against both that I think it wouldn't surprise me if n CRT it continues to struggle. Maybe Ozzi Albis moves up to lead off against both rights and lefties. Should be beautiful, certainly seems possible. But for ender in CRT, let me see the expected batting average

one sixty latest on what one seventy nine back. We said during the day that David Dallas placed on the I L and that remember Rye gonna get the start every day in left field, that a second in dollars spot struck out three times. Dal said he thinks he probably only needed like a couple of days, but they didn't want to play shorthanded for the days that he would needed. He expects to come off the d L right when he's Eligi in ten days. Good, we all hope,

so very very much. Sound. We hope you mentioned Freddy Peralta and what he did against the Angels last night. It wasn't very good at all. The seven runs in three and the third eight hits struck out five. On the other side, Matt Harvey also got destroyed four and the third seven hits to six runs. I don't get the people that are like back on the Harvey's train going in this year. I didn't get that at all him anywhere anywhere. Something I've noticed is that the swinging

strikes are actually still there. And actually had a buddy of mine text me like, oh, well, you always tweet out the swinging strikes. Well, why does Matt Harvey swinging strikes matter if he's getting blown up all the time? And my response was it doesn't. Well, normally, you know, if you're getting this many swinging strikes, they're predictive of strikeouts in the future, which means less contact. So if hitters aren't making as much contact, then there's less opportunity

for them to mash against you. But Harvey has just been so bad that even with an up taking swinging strikes, when they're making contact with him, it's still going a long way and looks say what you want, but I think the juice ball is back two years ago. Had to juice ball. There was forty eight home runs hit last night in baseball alone, Tommy Lastella two of those, and this was in Anaheim. This game was in Anaheim, where normally regarded as it trends more towards a picture

to say a little bit of a ballpark. It's kind of neutral, but friends a little bit more towards being a pictures park. You get two homers from Tommy Lostella from last night, you get mood stock Is Dinger, you get grand Doll with two home runs. We expect home runs from those guys, but I mean Lostella two home runs, three home runs over the past two games. The juice

ball is back? Or could it? Could it be the fact that everybody's buying into launch angle and maybe it went from league using that approach to maybe like now or now like like these guys who never really produced before and on the bench coming off the bench like Lostella implementing it because maybe he realizes it will help him become an everyday player. You know, that's a good question,

and I'm gonna look it up right now. So league stats for this season bad and ball data for eyeball rate for the average of the league is thirty six point eight percent. Last season, fly ball rate for all of baseball was thirty five point four So something crazy. It's weird, and it's weird. It's cold. It's cold that you think the ball would stay in the right So like there's so many home runs being hit like last night in City Field. I understand the wind was blowing out,

so that probably factored into it. But it was pretty cold last night in New York. It's been cold every like for the most part. Outside of Anaheim and the Dodgers and UM and places like that and domes like in the north, it's still really cold. The ball is still forming out, so we could potentially see a lot of bad pitching performance this year and a huge uptick

in home runs RBIs batting average. When we get back from breaking no we have a break coming up, we'll talk about some of these other aces that got rock Strasburg Nola hasn't been himself to start the year yourself, So yesterday was the day where you know, aces overall just got rocked once again. As you mentioned one quick other opinion I have it might be crazy and I don't know, but maybe people have found a new steroid for themselves that is undetectable. At one point there was

a there was a steroid way. You could wipe it, you know, on your skin, and it was undetectable and like an h G H. It was like Gary Sheffield back in the day he used the cream. Yeah, like somebody a few guys used to cream, so maybe that you know, sometimes they're ahead of you know, us in determining what steroids are being used. Maybe there's a new steroid. You don't know. These guys could be taken steroids, especially the ones that aren't getting paid, like Tommy Lastella. Nobody

knows for sure. That definitely could be the case. I think Rob Manford is basically, dude, we we gotta get people in seats. We want people watching. Won't people talking about baseball? How do you get people talking about baseball? You see these guard gangs win home runs, walk off home runs, home runs in big moments. Most people, I'll say most. You know, there's some that's still like pitchers duels, and that's fine. I like I like a good pitchers

duel every now and then. Most people like to see action, you know, they want to see balls hit a mile, especially when it surprised me. If Rob Manford said before the season, go back to these juice balls two years ago, it wouldn't surprise. Let's tighten those balls up a little bit, you know, right, and you know in the middle, uh anything else. So the annuals game, I mentioned that Trout got hurt in it. I doesn't expects to play today,

expects to play on a Friday. The next game, Andy Simmons went three for five, thankfully, Johnny Luke Roid went super three. You mentioned tim In Lostellas Myny ground out two bombs last night and going three for four, batting three sixty four on the year. Travis Shaw has Aguilar both go over four over five, still batting under two hundred bulls of them disgusting. And Mike Mustakas, here's a big note game the Bruise with their twelfth game yesterday,

Mustakas have believe is now qualified at second base. Was the day Mustakis and Mankata both got respectively. Mustakis got second base, Mankada got so interesting to note the players like you, Chris and ESPN, they need to wait those ten games you got him last night. It's perfect. Travis Shaw looking into the numbers here on the season, Greg thirty three person strike out right like that worries me

a little bit more recording him. Whereas Agar is making more contact this year, more than ever before, He's striking out less than ever before, and he's still hitting the ball hard. So I feel a little bit than do Travis Shaw, who right now has a thirty three percent hard hit rate. You don't really have anything to hang your hat on. He's still hitting the ball hard until hitting in the air. That's Travis Shaw. But striking off

at a third of the time, it's it's very bad. Yeah. Now, I would definitely say, aguilar, I think this is a little flukey. He's gonna be, you know, streaky. But you don't think that was saw No. I was never a sure guy. I think that he was always a fluke. Uh. And then he lasted a longer than I thought as a productive player. But I think he reached his max

potential these last few years. But I don't think though, to get thirty home runs the past two seasons, it's not bad six ribbies think when I was kind of off on this year because I worry about the splits. I'm a big splits guy, Greg. I want my guys to be in the lineup every day and to be able to perform. And Travis Shaw was just so brutal against lefties that that was something that I worried about. Now we got the strikeouts too, We'll take a break,

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Fantasy Best Friends Forever Fantasy Sports Like Radio Network. Frank Stamp for Chris vent Struck, Greg Sussman here with you, hanging out on the BFFs on a Wednesday. Frank, I was talking before about the lead and the Jordan's Simmerman stuff, but maybe the true lead which we are getting down our number two is Chris Sale. And we talked yesterday about what Alex core had to say. Right he was two days ago now, but what Alex Corp had to

say about, Oh, Chrissell was sick? I was like, I was like, no, what I mean if you would have told us right after the start, maybe even not like five days later? Was he uh sick? Yesterday? Again? Was did you have a cold? Did you have a fever? Was his stomach bothering him? Because yesterday against Toronto Blue Jays in the home opener of Boston, he went four innings on seven hits, five runs, three strikeouts. Would you see from Chris Sell? So what I saw was early

on in the start he was hitting. He had a max pitch of ninety four point eight eight miles per hour yesterday, whereas his max pitch in his second start, where he was averaging a you know, just under ninety miles problem with that fastball, his max pitch point eight one miles per hour. So yesterday he amped it up a little bit early on in the start start, but then when I saw Greg and the third and fourth ending was it started to come back down again, and

he was mostly nine. So I kind of wonder if he just came out hot I wanted to shut everyone up a little home opener. Maybe he wanted to shut people up, like, Okay, look, I could still reach back and hite if I need to, And he did that early on in the start, but then later on when he ran into trouble the third and the fourth ending, he was more so around ninety and ninety one per hour. Again, he only had nine swinging strikes. Only one of those

or two of those came on the fastball. So overall, like, what do you take away from this Chris Sales start? I guess I feel a little bit better. I still want to see more swinging strikes. I want to see more strikeouts. I want the velocity to to consistently be up. But overall, he had a higher max pitch UH and His overall um fastball velo yesterday was nine six miles per hour on average. The second start it was eighty nine,

so he was up two miles per hout. He's trending in the right direction, but a lot of that was early in the game, right It was a lot of that was early on the game, but overall it was right around ninety two on average. So I think it's a step in the right direction. And he got killed by a few like just dinking dump hits here and a few people talking about like he's had unlucky babbits to start the season. So overall, I think I'm a

Christian owner, which I am. In the main event, I think it's I think I feel a little bit better. What do you think venture I feel a little bit better based on what we saw yesterday. The velo was up a little bit, but I do want to see more swinging strikes and more strike outs. Yeah, I mean, I don't feel much better if I'm I mean, I'm not a sale owner, um, but I don't. I wouldn't feel too good. I mean, listen, he's gotten rocked all three stars. The velocity was up and then down again.

You know, maybe his Vlo. There comes a point in every pitch's career, especially really good pictures, whether Vlo goes down at one point in their career, you know, it just happens and they gotta work around it. Verlander did it and reinvented himself. Maybe Sale could do the same. Christal is not that poenies when we had to reinvent himself. You know, it's starting harder than ever. That's not but

Sale throws is normally supposed to. And it's especially scary because given the inflammation of the shoulder to close the season, kind of like the way he was used in the playoffs too, like they had a deep run, he was used a lot. Yeah, and let's not again, he's had a herky, jerky motion and people have been saying this for years that he's gonna get hurt one day because it was her Conder. It never happened. It never happened.

And I'm mad at myself too because I've I've been in that camp your own Chris Sale before and then I ended up drafting him in the main event, which is obviously my biggest league by in like there's an overall prize involved, and I was debating Chris Sale versus Garrett Cole, And then I wrote about this afterwards, was if you want to take Garrett Cole over Chris Sale because you're worried about Sale, I don't have a problem with it, like you can make the argument because Garrett Cole,

to me, feels safer. He's entering his prime. He throws nineties seven miles per hour. He was doing it last night. There was a ninety slider. He's nasty. He's the americanly version of Noah Synderguard. Basically, that's how I feel about Garrit Cole. And I'm just kind of mad at myself because I've never owned Chris Sale, and I drafted him over Garrett Cole, and I wanted Garrett Cole shares. I'm kind of kicking myself. You don't have Coal anywhere. I

have him in one of my home leagues. I have one share out of I think I play in seven leagues this here have one Garrett Cole share. I wanted more. I was high on him. I had him as my fourth starting pitcher. I have one place to want. You wanted to first your portfolio, right, I I took Sale because if you're playing for an overall in the NFBC. My thought was he has more upside high upside, right if Chris Sale, Chris Sale at his best is better than Garrit Cole at his best. That was my thinking.

But given all the information that we had, I probably should have taken circumstances into account more. In hindsight, it's only three starts. Hopefully he gets better. Honestly, if you own Chris Sale, you just kind of hope Greg, you know what, he has to get better well for fantasy owners and for the Red Sox to Red Sox off to a terrible start. If you own Chris Sale, and I've got questions regarding this, are you just kind of

trading him today because people feel better? And you'd be like, well, look as Villa was up, let me try and sell him, and uh, you know, if I'm trading someone for what, that's that's obviously the answer to that question. Top twenty starting picture. We did this last week, didn't we? What do we can do it again? Admittedly I listened to the sleeper in the bus coming into today they do the fireside chat with Nick Pollock, our Buddy Picture List and Sport, and they said Jack Flaherty is the lowest

they would go. What do you think about that? The lowest they will go for? What do you mean? I would keep selling? Like trade Chris Sale one for one for Jack. That's the lowest they would go. Keep saying, if you want to get a I guess semi Ason return Jack Flaherty is the lowest they would go. I would people to Flaherty. You're saying, but you had to think, you have to think about a little bit. It wasn' immediate that. Would you trade Sale for Syndergard? Yeah? Yeah,

I think I would take Syndergard? All right? Would you Walker Bueller? No, I'm not doing it because Walker Bueller has probably had some of concerns of his own. I'm probably eating Sale. Trevor Bauer, no hits, no more, greg A two run Homer to Nico, good room, Nico, Yeah, that's my boy. Right? Do you trade Sale for Trevor Bauer? Definitely? Would definitely would do. I don't know if i'd do it. I'm not a Bower guy, though. Would you trade Sale?

Are we overreacting? Yes? I would, I wouldn't. I wouldn't know what you wouldn't. That's pretty close. Would you trade Sale for Strasburg. No, but you look, he's in that Jack Flaherty range. He's right there. Yeah, I'm just telling you what they said. I personally wouldn't do those Like if I could still get a top twelve guy to me,

like Syndergardens still like a top twelve guy. Trevor Bauer is very easily a top twelve guy, like obviously, yeah, I would try and do something like that, but anything lower, like even Walker Bueller because we had some concerns regarding Bueller entering the season to like with that one, Like, I probably wouldn't do that another hit three hits in a row now for the Tigers against Trevor Bauer. Um, yeah, I wouldn't do like Flaherty, uh, Strasburg. Guys in those

range like tie, I wouldn't do anything like that. I still think like the risk of Chrysale getting injured is kind of outweighs, like how much more talented he can be than those guys my opinions, So I would I would keep Chrisale in that regard, but in hind tight what I know now three starts into the season, if I could do it over again, I would take over over Chris Sale. I would. It's like Garrit Cole has been lights out, but he's been he's been fine for

the most part. You're getting a ton of strikeouts in the velocities there, so the results are gonna come for Gerrit Cole. Yeah, he looked good last night in terms of peripherals and everything like that. So, I mean I would have took Cole over Sale in every draft I did. I just didn't have always had that opportunity. But I mean, I feel like there's a safety to it because of health. You know, last year kinda put a damper on him

for me, But the upside is crazy. And you could have looked at ten different NFBC drafts Gregg and saw like there was a draft work Chris Sale one of the main events. He went fifth overall. Yeah, that's why when he falls to me at you know pick I think nineteen or twenty at the time. Yeah, like I couldn't pass. I can't blame you. I can't blame me for that. But I'm kind of kicking myself right now though, because you knew that I wanted Cole, and I told

you that right after I did. I said, and I wanted to take Cold, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Mookie bats and Mitch more like each uh go yard here more than's fourth of the year. It's more than sneaky man pick up team leagues like, if he's out there, I would no issue with that for me. He he gets hot in the daily league, I'd pick him up because could start him against right into pitching. He's batting third in the Red Sox lineup, Jan they have a great spot to beat. This is

the same thing. Who Who was it? Who was the when we did last year bitch Moreland versus who? I was that much Moreland so flash in the pan? Who it was? I don't but I don't remember going over this. Yeah, it was like someone Matt Adams who couldn't be mad Adam. Was it Muncy? No, because I like that Max Munsey. Also, I don't remember exactly who it was. It was someone like that. I remember having hopefully argument hopefully it wasn't Munsey.

I don't think it was months. I really don't. I really don't speaking of Muns, though I saw um Modica talking about this today on Twitter as well. Is Dan Vogelbach this year's Max Munsey? I don't think so he's mashing. He won't have the position second day in a oh, that they find a way to get vogel Box in the lineup, all three of them to Bruce, Incarnacion and vogel Box second day in a row, that they go out of their way to make sure that they get him in the lineup and teaming for J. Bruce and J.

Bruce obviously hits his seventh home run. J he's not though he hits home runs home nothing else. He's batting under two hundreds. Him being hot, home runs leading the league, but he has batting under two hundreds. It's home run strikeouts. It's just it's two. It's home run strike out. It's crazy, Mookie Betts said, as I said that his third home run over Toronto. Their lawful hitting five Craig five homers,

nine ribes and six walks seven. Strike your boy, Marco Gonzalas with six innings allowed three runs, only two who are earned a strike out five. Jake Judas not a good adding four and things it hits four runs, he's struck out six. But regarding Jake Junas, though had still had fifteen swinging strikes, he just ran into a bus. All like the Mariners are amazing right now, hen swinging strikes on his slider, and as I looked into this for the season, his swinging strike rate and his chase

rate are both up. So I'm actually buying Jake Junas. The results haven't been there yet, but I think they're gonna come. He's that twenty strikeouts over his three games pretty good. That's very good because remember last year he was pitching more to context, he wasn't getting the strikeout. So now you're getting a few more strikeouts with Junus, Jake Junas and who gets to save my boy Anthony Swarzec now two for two and save opportunities for the Mariners.

Junius has also been a little unlucky. He's fourth in Babbitt right now, four oh nine. They're bad. He's been a little bit unlucky. Okay, it's been a little unlucky. Yeah, so stories that comes in in a three run game, that just that ninth does a lot it hit. But right now it certainly seems like Sworders Actually, guy in Seattle's good job by you, Greg. We mentioned yesterday Dan Vogelbach. You would pick him up in a daily league. You

could play him whenever he's in the lineup. Do we just kind of scrap that and just say he's a must add based on how he's playing in twelve teams or of teams. In his Dan Vogel Bakama's head. Another three hits yesterday, and I think he's gotta be right now. He's betting fifth in this lineup. I think he has to be. I don't know. I tend to agree with him on the fence about it. He's finally putting putting it together. In a fifteen, i'd say, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

But de Gordon with sixt basically year. By the way, actually I believe that leads man. He's actually raking on actually runs the league league. They have the league leader a home run, the league leader in stolen basis playing well. I wonder how they pitched you just like Cherry the Poto Plan, do you guys kind of hospital bed making trades? Insane dude. Marco Gonzalez is a another one. I kind of regret because you know, I liked him, and I

don't know, but zero shares. Really Marco Gonzalez and I sat right here and I told you guys why I like like his underlying numbers his peripherals last year were basically the same as Miles Mikolas and he was just unlucky. Now, look, he's another soft toss or eight eighty nine, but he actually throws like three four different pitches, so he mixes it up a little bit, keeps people off balance. I think he's quality. I started him in the pit League. Unfortunately I didn't end up with him. I do trust

him as if he's my SP four five. Yeah, that's what he is for most people. I like that. I like it, Greg. So I want to know, we're talking a lot about Jordan Hicks yesterday that drew with you and St. Louis ay four nothing victory against the Dodgers yesterday, So it's not a safe situation. And they didn't use Jordan's Hicks Andrew Miller pitched in this one for a

couple of batters. They did not use Jordan Hicks. And what was the afore nothing game basically the entire game here, Well, Miller got a hold, which means Jordan Hicks pitched and back to back days. Greg, Okay, you pitched Sunday pitches fourteen on Monday, so yeah, it's probably they just save him for you. Know, save opportunity. They didn't need him. That's trying to not were even anything anything. I'm just saying, like, I think he's the guys. It's really what I was

trying to make it out. Yeah, I agree with you. I think Jordan Hicks is the guy would come in eighth. Okay, it came in in the eighth because he got a hold. But I guess there was somebody tying run was on, probably like that. Um Ross Stripling went for the Dodgers. He went five things about four. Russ Rewalks did strike out seven, five hits. The big blast against him was a gold Schmid homer and then a gets on the board. Both of his doubles came against Ross Stripling, two doubles,

his Yati Molina three ribbies. Really needed that. I mean, even with the two hits, he's only betting two or five. So really really slow start here for Yaddi. But I think it's expected. He got a late start in spring training because he was coming off I believe, all season knee surgery. Greg, So he's a little bit later to start than everyone else. You mentioned he's gonna be around. You mentioned Max Munsey a little while ago, uh months he's been really really good. He has a hitting one

too three four five consecutive games. He's been a two seven on the year, three homers, ten RVs that ob P says at three sixty four months, been very nice to start off the season. Marcello Zuna not good to catching the ball, Frank oh Man the gift that went viral last night in the video Marcello Zuna, Then what did you see this? No? I did not, all right, so just go on Twitter and Marcello Zuna. You'll find it very easily. I don't know. He climbs the fence.

He climbs there and he's waiting for the ball. He's just as on the fence. He's like, wow, this is awesome, Marcello. It's like this. It's like this right, like this is the wall. Right he's sitting. He has climbed on the wall and you're just waiting for him to go over and him to be like this like Zuna was in place. It was awesome. And then he had to jump off the wall because the ball end it over there and see him just dive off of the fence and try

and catch the ball completely misses it. I mean, this is why he gets hurt. How do you not see that? Literally he's sitting on the wall for a good five secondly the first time he's done this. Either he did this last year. He literally had to chop off the wall and dive forward. Watch this live reaction. Let's let's get the camera on venture he do? Wait? What was he thinking? Oh? You know what he did? I know exactly what he did. This is what I used to do as the center field. Know you you see the

balls hit so far beyond, you just run. You just run to the sto right and then you turn around. Yeah, that's what I always used to do. And that used to happen to me sometimes too, where I used to overrun it and I turned around, be like, oh go back now right, that's fine. If he didn't jump and hang on the fence, he could have just stepped forward and catch the ball, jumped before he looked, stand on the warning track, turn and see where the ball is. If if it turns out, you need to jump on

the wall, jump on the wall. Right. He actually jumped on the wall before looking to see where the bull was. What ann That's bad? Hey, guys? Which is worse to you? Yeah? This or Jose can say, go getting getting the ball knocked off his head. I'd say this because because what mean yeah, wait what he hit off his head and ended up he home right? Right? Ye? I don't know. I think I think that's worth Yeah, that's really bad that you're a major leaguer in hits off your head.

It's home run. I mean, it's they can say, because it's just like well he he wasn't known for brains. And we talked a lot about Chris Sale. When we come back, we begin our conversation with Aaron Nola and the Phildelphia Phillies stick around more. That's right after that's one. Lose weight now, got a fat dot com Lose that unwanted belly fat today and get free information at fat one dot com. Fit in the dress or pets or bathing suits you've always wanted to go to fat one

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I didn't. So that's one time I didn't do it all the time. Having a riveting Matt Boyd conversation. Right, we're talking about into it. Do you want to discuss it on the end. Yeah, he has one of the highest baden baseballer was telling me for seventy six. So we were saying, oh, well, maybe he could be even better than he has been buying it Matt Boyd, I'm not boy I picked up I picked the bull for tomorrow, bull the bull. I picked him in a few places. I like it doing it, We'll do it together and

doing it all right. Yesterday the Phillies's we six one lead on the Washington Nationals and then their lead collapse. As Frank Stample smiled, he texted me, good, I hate Gabe Kavler. That's text I got. I feel like it's warranted, right, Greg, I'll go six and the third, seven hits, five runs, four earned, only struck out three. Strasburg on the other side, when four winning, six hits, six runs, six earned. Would you trade Sale for Nola? I wouldn't three strikeouts for Strasburg? Frank,

why do you hate Gabe Kavler? Well, I hate Gabe Kapler because he basically is the second coming of Joe Madden and wants to be the smartest guy in the room. And I kid have a sit closer because you know that, you know he's basically he's uh, he's he's the baseball manager version. He's a hipster. He's a hipster. That's what he is. He's a He's a managing hipster, a baseball managing hip He just wants to do things that are different. I want to be different. You don't want to keep

everyone guessing you. I want to use I'm gonna play the matchup, So I'm gonna use this guy this day, this guy that day. I'll use Hector Nerris one day, one day, next day, I'll use whoever the scrub was last night? Who wasn't du bray Ramos. You know what that's when you get Gaid Kapler and Phillies idiots for using Edo bray Ramos in the ninth ending for the safe Victor Roe Place comes up and hits a home run,

a game tying home run. Hector Nerris was in the eighth last night, Your boy Anthony Dominguez in the seventh ending once again, So you have doming Giz, you signed David Robertson, Hector Nerries is back from the dead, had me set gets to save and you try using dubray Ramos yesterday and it backfires. So I'm happy about that, and good for you Phillies stupid about Cablet being stupid? Yes, why I mean feel free, I'm I'm I'm going to. I'm going to. I just need to pull I needed

to pull something up, so I had my defense. Now, the David Robertson pitch two days in a round, so he needed a day off. Makes sense, Okay, So sir, Anthony Dominguez was used in the seventh inning to get out of a jam, right right? Do you want your best guy out to fire? Mattch Bete the fireman, get out of the jam. Anthony did that right? Okay? So

you had Hector Nearest in to face who frank? The heart of the order in Brian Doser, Anthony Rendon, Juan Soto, Ryan Zimmerman, and that is the heart of the National's order. Hector Nearest has been the best picture recently for the Philly So you bring in after you already use Sathanz. You do not have David Robertson. You bring in the next best guy right now. That's been Hector Nearest. They

brought him in there. It's not just a one game thing, though, What do you like, what's the excuse for the night before? What's the excuse for Patney sick? Do you can just make excuses for Gabepple? How do you defend the last two pigs? An idiot? Last two guys fantasy? So when it comes to Etibrey Romos, I will defend it by this going into the game. The allotted hand run all seasons probably wasn't going to be the case for the entire base. Sure, but he's pitched well, it's not like

Romos is a bad guy's bad picture. I don't know what you wanted them to do you know the guys not gonna be that Patni Shack. They're not going to David roberts And they order you, Sir Anthony, to being as they order use Hector Nearest. When it mattered more, what do you want them to do? I would do the opposite. You just need to understand they're not going to have a set closer you. I'm not gonna get angry abot it. They're not gonna do it. They have no interest in doing it. Roberts is not gonna be

the guy in the night every time. Clearly, Sarathing is never gonna be the guy in the night. It's not gonna be Nearest. It's not gonna be Knicheck, they're not going to have a guy. But there's no there is

Ryan the reason. I just explained it to you. But I don't like, how do you justify one day it's it's doing is in the seventh, one day it's deming Is in the eighth, one day, it's Robertson in the seventh, one day it's Robertson in the eighth, and then one day it's Nearest in the ninth and pet Niche in the ninth. They're both right handed pictures. There's nups. No, No, that's the answer the problem. Sorry you don't like him, but that's the answer. No. And you know what it's not.

It's a bad it's a bad way to do it. He's trying to be the smartest guy, right, that's what he's trying to do because he's using stats. He's trying to outsmart the stats, as you said, the games that as you said, it's not he's not gonna be perfect all year. Guys are not gonna be perfect all year. He used to anything to make it as a fireman. Then he used the guy that's be the hottest gus, the heart of the order. What do you want him to do save his best picture for what he's facing

worst players? That doesn't make sense. I don't know why you're gonna angry about that. We always say we want your best miss one game sample. That's what I'm trying to say, Greg. It's happened all season already, and he's like five different guys would have saved on this Philly scene. But he's using But he's trying to use the guys when it matters. They're gonna have a fantasy for a second, listen.

But that's what I'm saying. Okay, have a fire man, right, but you can't keep putting different guys into the night unless he's still looking for your clothes. He's not looking for he doesn't want a closer. He's going too much by stats. There's human element to this, and certainly these certain certain these guys he doesn't know he doesn't want a closer. Some of these guys can't handle that ninth

inning roll. I can't are great, you've put out the fire in the sixth and seventh, but what are you gonna do in the eighth and ninth when you're using your best guys in six and seven. You can't do that all the time for either body. Ronos, he loved the solo home run. That sucked. Obviously got three got the all the third three guys. That wasn't like it was a huge rally. I understand it was a game. It was a home run and it sucked right like I mean again, as Frek I mentioned, it happens to

only run this guy's allot all year. It happens they had a six to one lead and they lost the game. Game Kapler came from more organization. The Dodgers, right, very forward thinking, analytical organization. They have one closer. They have one closer. It's Kenley Jansen. Also, you know the best and lead. He wasn't the best last year and they still used him. Dodgers are one of the most analytical, forward thinking organs. Just because it's the Dodge, he may

feel different. Have one closer, and they've been successful. They made the World Series two years in a row. So why don't you wait a minute, why don't you kill Brewers? What are you killing the last year? The game said of the NLCS without a closer when they're using their clothes in the second. Well, the playoffs are different, though, the playoffs you use like they use the Red Sox use Chris Sale to close out of game. So the playoffs are different, unless, of course, whatever a buckshow Walter

a couple years ago to use second. It also depends on how you like the playoffs are off limits. That's different and the only different things depends on how your bullpen set up. You have a guy like hater Andrew Miller, They're you're fonting man. That's a fireman type of what's Sir Anthony nik is is That's what David Robertsonday's he believes he has two of them. He has two firemen, so then you don't have a post. You why didn't

use him in the eighth? Because then use Hector Nerris and because Nerris was But why if he thinks Nerros is a better matchup in the eighth, why don't you just use him the eighth? Because if he thinks ners is his best guy, why would he not use it? For the heart? Here's the problems all the time. But

here's the problem with the Phillies though. If you have two great guys, yes, you can use the better guy, which was at one point in Cleveland Andrew Miller, and then you know Cody Allen would be the closer because he's also good. But the problem is they only have one or two good guys in this bullpen. It's not true, and it's really just it's not Robertson is on the fence at this point to the week, Sir Anthony, the ming was yes, and you got Hector Nerris. Let's say

three the best right now? Obviously it's all changes the bullpen right right, and none of them are really proven or like besides Robertson, are really proving. So yes, you should use your best guy if you don't really know who your best guy is as the closest, because that's the most impart. No, you're wrong. I think you's your best guy against the best hitters and the other team Josh Hayter. What about Josh Hayters a different thing. Stanna could go three innings if he wants to twinnings and

put out the fire. He's completely done. Used, in my opinion, your best guy against the best players. That's what he did last He still got to pitch the ninth in point definitely, But you're not Why would you save a guy for the ninth inning if it's not facing the best hitters instead of facing ners and you use your other better guys in the sixth and seven, you use your best guy. You use your best guy. He gets the best hitters. That's what Gaye Kapler is doing last night.

You had um. I don't think Patty is one of his best guys. Greg might be. Patney is like forty five years old. They don't have a great and there's like three or four relievers better than him. I don't know. So he pitched the night. That's what I'm getting at Greg. It's not just a one night thing to me, every single night with Gabe Kapler, and it's super frustrating for fantasy. And I know you're trying to say that for MLB purposes. He's trying to win games. Yes, he blew it. Last.

Look at what the Dodgers have done the past couple of years, and the Dodgers are the closer. He just because he comes to the Dodgers. Don't believe everything is this analytical. He's not. He's not the manager of Dodgers. The Dodgers chose Dave Roberts over him, you know that. But he is, Yes, but he comes from the Dodgers. He is this analytical. You can't tell me that the

Dodgers had no influence over how analytical he is. And maybe it's fight first and maybe correct, right, but I had to agree with venture that at some point I think he's trying to do too much may and maybe he needs trying to do. I'm explaining to you why he's doing it because you had Jamiguez laid out the get rid of the fire of the seventh inning, right, we know we all agree on that. All good with that?

In the eighth inning, nearest face the guys I mentioned Soto Zimmerman in this line up, the best in the weaker part, and then the guys that he faced Wilmur Dafoe, Kurt Suzuki, and then he faced Robe lest Here's the ninth place center and this was in the eighth or ninth,

the next and ninth ninth. That's the problem, though, You're bringing in a guy who has never pitched the ninth thing to close out a game that he might not be used to, and he might not be ready for all have the confidence for there is the closest mentality. I don't think red Zular honestly, I played baseball for eighteen years. I I mean more than eighteen years, twenty years, and had no close mentality. I know that some people can't do it. They can't come in the clutch. A

clutch is real, so is closing in talent. Those things are real, I think so. I think the Phillies bullpen. I think one of the problems is it also happens to be pretty deep, right with Domingez. With Robertson's deep with solid talent. Ye, there's no stand out like last year, but he's still very young and signs towards the end of the season where he kind of fell off a

little bit, but he's still the best one. Like there's it's deep in terms of they have five guys who might be like similar talent level, but they don't have like one standout guy. Fine, I understand that, but but but but you're right. You're absolutely right. At that point, there's five guys are all similar talent level. So to expect them never time, yes, but to expect them to speak the closure and be consistent and be able to know what you're doing. For a fantasy perspective, it's not

gonna happen. No, No, I don't care about fantasy. He's gonna I know at this point it's not gonna happen. He's gonna ruin his bullpen. He's gonna ruin these guys if he keeps doing this though, you're putting them all over the place, them in different spots. That's why I'm happy. But it's amazing that as a Yankee fan, we killed Girardi when he would only go to Patasis in the eighth when the seventh, there's three. If there's three, right, he's coming up in the ninth. Does that mean, we

don't use Chapman in the ninth inning. I didn't kill Girardi for not like that's what I'm talking about. But no, but the Phillies don't have or all this Chapman. They don't have Kenley Jansen, they don't have that. You just said it yourself. Well, they signed David robertson to money like you thought he was going to be the closer, but he's not on all the guys. You got two closers Britain Miller. But they could have been closers on other teams though, but Eno could have been a closer somewhere,

not Zack Britain could have been a closed. Not that's because he pitches on a team with the role this cha, because that's where the money was, that's where that's who where they were. They all signed. They all chose to sign at that level for the set of men, all of them. And roberts is not even on that those guys level right now, like he right so, and he was likely unavailable last Night's probably unavailable last night. Adam Morgan has also been good for this team. He was

probably unavailable putting back to back as well. All right, that's it's all started with Aaronova. By the way, Well, I still love though I looked ato Aarnoa before this. He only had five swinging strikes yesterday. Um, his swinging strike rate is way down this year. It's eight point one percent. He's allowed five home runs already. He allowed seventeen all of last season, So just to put that in perspective, and his first pitch strike percentage it's whereas

he's normally around sixty five. So he's not struggling to start the year like he's falling on behind accounts. We saw that he had like a five walk game early on. He's not getting a lot of swings and misses. But I also believe that he's faced the Nationals twice already. Right, he just saw Zach Wheeler get mashed against the Nationals and Aaronola has now faced the Nationals twice. So you're not as worried as as you're not as worried, you know, if it were at the Marlins or something like that.

Oh yeah, But there are a few warning signs here with Arno that I want to pay attention to the fact that he's not throwing strikes early in the count. He's not getting a lot of swings and misses, and he's giving up home runs. So I want to pay attention to those three things specifically moving forward, because the velocity in the pitch usage is right on par. But he's not getting a lot of strikeouts right now. Venture Yeah, no,

I understand. Listen. I mean I think it just early season, you know, struggles, and they could get out of it. Here's the thing. Look at all these ACE pictures that we drafted early, and most of them are getting bombed. A lot of these aces are getting bombed at least one or two starts. That's what is it. Maybe they're a little behind, or maybe combination of both, combination behind this early season velocity. Yeah, that's why I always say, like,

I really don't like to pay for pitching. This is the reason why, because you never know, no supposed to be lights out. This is a cy young candidate post possibly. I don't give up on him yet though. Um there's no like, you know, severe issue like with um sale, with the city being down, I'd be more willing to buy low on Nola than I would be, right, I would buy low on Nola, right, that's actually a good point. I would so Nolah has faced the Braves and the

Nationals twice. But this kind of comes with the territory those that's who's gonna face at least the division. And when you're the ace, when you're the ace, expect better. And that's exactly right. We draft these guys as are aces because they we expect them to perform even in

tough matchup. But they know there was gonna be a lot of tough matchups this year because the Braves and the Nationals and the Mets, and you know, they get a little bit of a cake walk here and there with the Marlins, but for the most part, National League's kind of tough. I mean, even even when you go and face the National League Central, you have the Cubs and the Cardinals and the Brewers and the Red yesterday, and then you're gonna have to face the Rockies at

some point. Well you know you Dodgers now you don't want, yeah, and then the Dodgers and you know what, you want to face the Giants, but the Padres are better. So no, this is kind of what you know, we want to know what to be our ace so that because he can perform, But it's the tough matchups just pitching us far, he hasn't performed in a tough matching. This is why I don't want to pay for pitching. I don't want to pay for it. I don't I rather buy the

first second round. Yeah, I'd rather have a deep rotation of the middle of the road guys that have the potential to become an ACE or deuce, then pay for a bunch of aces, because two of them are gonna disappoint you. Two of them will disappoint you. I'm saying, just so happen that you do those two that say, if you draft three aces, two of them will probably

disappoint you. I don't know. That's not necessarily There was actually at the season by Ariel Cohen does the a TC projections on fan grafts, and it basically said, and it looks at years past, the top twelve starting pitchers by ADP drafted every year return the most value. And that's obvious because they're drafted as early as they are right, but they and it's actually the second tier. It's like

pictures thirteen through thirty actually bust the most. So basically there was a get your ace when you draft top twelve starting pitchers. But it just happen, Like you're right, at least three or four of the top twelve are gonna bust. It must happen that it might happen that you end up with those two that bust, which is unfortunate. It happened year. But it's trying to identify before the season,

which the which of those guys we're gonna bust. And I think we said we were worried about Cloober the most, and yeah, we also said we were worried about Snell the most, which is doing had a good start is better? Uh, dude, That's what I'm saying. Listen, you want, yeah, you want

to grab one ace for safety reasons. You you want to try to grab your your anchor, right, But after that, I think it's okay to wait a little while and maybe go off the middle of guys because you're not paying for them, you know, and they could do they could become a deuce. And it's trying to identify those guys that go outside the top seven or eight rounds in the middle rounds, right, identify those guys were gonna break out. Please Castio even to knock a Charlie Morton

guys like that exactly. That's how you win. That's how you win. I want to thank Sean, Chris and Alex downstairs for Chris Vetra Frank Stanfell. I am Greg Ausben. Tomorrow on the program, Virginia sarcast goes over the injuries with us. We're the fasty vffs. We'll do it only in tomorrow, we hope,

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