DevOps: The Answer to Life, The Universe, and Everything

Fallthrough

Oct 20, 2025•1 hr 7 min•Ep. 42

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Episode description

In this episode, hosts Angelica Hill and Matthew Sanabria are joined by special guest Cory O'Daniel to dive deep into DevOps. They chat through some of the big questions shaping the industry: Is the "cloud promise" still holding up? What role does on-prem infrastructure play now? And perhaps most importantly, what does "DevOps" even mean today?

We continue this discussion in this week's episode of Break! We get into some of the topics briefly mentioned during the main episode. Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show.

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Table of Contents:

Prologue (00:00:00)
Chapter 1: What Is DevOps? (00:05:50)
Chapter 2: Structuring DevOps (00:20:27)
Chapter 3: Software Engineering is a Craft (00:46:10)
Chapter 4: Keep Technology Choices Simple [Extended Only] (00:58:18)
Chapter 5: Why Are We Not Thinking Things Through? [Extended Only] (00:58:45)
Chapter 6: What Makes The C-Suite Forget The Pain? [Extended Only] (00:59:26)
Chapter 7: OpenTofu (01:00:16)
Epilogue (01:03:12)

Hosts

Matthew Sanabria - Host
Angelica Hill - Producer
Cory O'Daniel - Guest

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(00:00) - Prologue
(05:50) - Chapter 1: What Is DevOps?
(20:27) - Chapter 2: Structuring DevOps
(46:10) - Chapter 3: Software Engineering is a Craft
(58:18) - Chapter 4: Keep Technology Choices Simple [Extended Only]
(58:45) - Chapter 5: Why Are We Not Thinking Things Through? [Extended Only]
(59:26) - Chapter 6: What Makes The C-Suite Forget The Pain? [Extended Only]
(01:00:16) - Chapter 7: OpenTofu
(01:03:12) - Epilogue

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