What was it as far as this field of work ? What is it that drew you in and made you want to do that ?
So my undergrad is not in anything to do with psychology or counseling . My undergrad is actually in juvenile probation and parole . Really , yes , and when I was doing my hours for probation officer , I realized that it wasn't the kids . A lot of times it was the direction of the parents and some of the stuff that they do . Faith and Failure podcast .
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So , without further ado , this man right here , his name is Bill Farronbrook and he is a . What did you say ? Your title was A licensed professional counselor .
Okay .
I didn't want to this supervisory status .
What does that mean ? That means I can supervise interns and people working towards licensure .
Make sure that audio is good . Okay , I always check my audio because at one live stream it was not , so I check it from no one .
All right , so now you threw a weird path , ended up at our church and we got to know each other pretty well and found out you were a licensed sorry , my volume was up a licensed therapist , and as soon as you said that I started watching you , I was watching you way before it . Oh , I figured you did .
You had a few steps ahead of me because , like , when I was at Southwestern , we got a university . My major was psychology and that kind of stuff really interests me .
And so when you said that I'm like , oh , finally , I've never met somebody who actually did it as a living , like may have had a degree or that , may have done this or that or kind of spotty , but like you actually do it as a living . That's how you make your money , and so it's very intriguing to me the capacity being from a pastor's standpoint .
I'm not a licensed counselor , but I do a lot of counseling . People come to me , they ask questions .
You know you carry well , I don't know how you do it , but it's hard for me sometimes to lay those burdens at the door as I come in , because people talk to you about some heavy stuff and sometimes , to help people , you have to kind of be a lot more compassionate to the normal person they're just talking to , because they're actually coming to you for answers .
So now , that being said , what was it as far as this field of work , what is it that drew you in and made you want to do that ?
So my undergrad is not in anything to do with psychology or counseling . My undergrad is actually in juvenile probation and parole . Really yes , and when I was doing my hours for probation officer I realized that it wasn't the kids A lot of times it was the direction of the parents and some of the stuff that they do .
So I went back and I was afforded the opportunity , actually because I'm a veteran and the VA helped pay for my education . So I went back and got my master's degree and that's when I decided I first started off in marriage and family therapy . But the school I was going to it wasn't messing real well . So I switched schools and became a counselor .
My dream was to own a private practice . We owned one in Montana , my wife and I I say we because she does all the book work and everything . I owned it in Montana for a while and then from there I went to the VA . I worked for the VA , moved up pretty fast , didn't do counseling for probably eight or nine years I was in management .
Now , when you say move up , like what does that look like in that field ? When you say move up , what is it ?
I went from working in a rehab center as an alcohol counselor to the assistant chief of the rehab center to being the director of the holds . Programming for the VA . Okay , covered about five states a hundred thousand miles .
So it's not just like you're sitting down with somebody , like you were over departments and doing the part , okay , okay . And then when we moved here , I started doing therapy again Okay . So you kind of now you said you started off doing one thing , so you kind of came full circle back to what you originally started off with .
So was that kind of your heart's desire when you broke into it was because that's families was kind of why you got into it , or it just kind of fell that way it was but when you have five children , sometimes the money is more important than the passion . Yeah , I said this last Sunday if you have three children or beyond . I don't know why .
Because someone told God that we need to have one more before I'm 30 and he gave me two before I was 30 . So twins , yes . So this faith and failures podcast .