Hello everyone. This is the Queen of the stream, Francine, and you are listening to Eyes up Here with Francine on the iHeart Radio Network or wherever you get your podcasts. As always, I am joined by the Chadster Dad.
What is up up? The gesture of jeering has returned for another round of Eyes up Here and wishing you a happy belated Easter.
Oh thank you, hoppy Eastern to you. I don't even know what we were in.
I hope you found it. I hope all you put all your eggs in one desk.
I always do, don't I? And I'm like, what the hell did I just do? Oh my god? Did you have a good one?
A great one? Still?
Still no chocolate?
No, no chocolate anything? Oh my god. Oh my friend Jean Douglas is calling me right now.
Oh live call.
No chocol No, I'm not going to take it. No chocolate, but anything else did you get? Did you partake in some peeps or no?
I hate peeps. Peeps in me not on the same page. I love jelly beans, love the jelly beans.
Okay, well you know I try to stay away, but I just can't. I got the kids. One of those big comes with fifty pieces from Amazon.
You ever see those, I've seen them.
Yes, I got the fifty pieceer. I got chocolate covered marshmallows. I got some sugar free gum for them. We're not big on candy. I guarantee you half of this stuff will be thrown away by you know, a week from now. But it's I said to my daughter, do I still have to do the Easter thing? Since you know we kind of know it's not a thing. She goes, yeah, we still want stuff?
What it's not.
I never told my son, but I did tell my daughter. You know, we went through this a long time ago.
My daughter.
My son still believes everything. He's twelve. I'm like, oh, come on, see, there's no one this stewed him off.
That's my man right there.
So who's going to stew him off? I'm gonna send our guests the link.
By the way, were you gonna say the gimmick?
The gimmick?
I'm sending the gimmick gimmick?
I was one of our videos we just posted about ways to tell you're a pro wrestler, and one of them was you call everything the gimmick.
Yeah it is.
It's always a gimmick. Okay, so I just sent the link. This is a two timer.
Yes, yes, taking his return pumped love it, my favorites now he's great guests, then great guests now.
I hope.
So he's got a lot to talk about this he does, he's making the rounds, he's he's he's a hawk modity right now and I'm hoping he clicks the links.
Here's wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Okay, here.
We go, are you right? Hold on? One of my favorite people in the world, one half of the w c W tag team, the American Males. It's Scotty Ragg. Listen, listen, yes, everybody, yeah.
There is.
I love it.
You know, it's crazy that always sounds. I would crack up and think, how many people are actually watching your podcast? Are going? You know?
Yesterday I watched the buff Bagwell Dark Side of the Ring, right and they played the American meals and everybody was dancing here. It was a cute moment.
Yeah, that was one of the few.
My friend, how are you doing well?
How are you kiddo?
I'm doing fabulous.
Sweet sweet? How are you young man doing your coffee?
Doing excellent? Scotty good to see you again.
Very good, very good.
I had the pleasure of seeing you a couple of weeks ago in Ohio.
Yes, yes, that was way way cool. I got just to see a lot of people haven't seen in a long time, and it was truly just it was a blessing. It was kind of like a conversation we had for like an hour afterwards.
So we so everybody's telling everybody, let's go out, let's do stuff, right, So yeah, let's go out. We're gonna go out. We're gonna I don't now, go to dinner, go drink, have a drink. Whatever. So I ended up actually going out to this dive bar earlier, right after the well right, well right, it was right after the signing. We had left and Guido called me and he said, we're at I don't even know the place, Come meet
us and they have food. So we wanted to eat, right, So all of us go me Sandman Shane News like, there's promoters like Guido's sitting there and we walk in and it is a dive mall.
Here's the you and the easy to be gang do that the American Males Vault team. We went to Steaky Shake. I got about listen.
I like steak and shake, but Guido said, this is a fun bar, come come hang out. So I did. So I went. I had a couple of cocktails, I had a meal, and we just we stayed for about two hours and then it was seven o'clock. I was like, it feels like it's midnight.
So the funny part.
Is you made the same mistake as Shane Douglas did. I was staying at a quality inn and next store was an hotel called the Christopher something or other whatever.
It was right in the Christopher. That's what I was doing.
So earlier in the day, the night before. Actually, Shane says, I'm right next door to you. I'm gonna send Ned over with the car. We're five minutes away. You're gonna come and hang out. Well, I'm standing in the lobby and all these weird people are walking in and out and there's no Ned, and I'm like, where where are these people? And I'm looking at so Shane calls me and he says, go in the lobby. Do you see a ball that says blah blah blah? And I go no,
and he goes, yeah, I was there earlier. It says this name, and he goes, is there a door to your right? I go, no, there's no door. He goes, where the hell are you? You guys were at another Christopher thing fifteen miles away from me. It was the wrong hotel. They had it following me next to them, but I wasn't there. So Sianni calls me the next night and says, I'm coming over, and I go, you
can't because you're fifteen miles. So you and I ended up on the phone for about an hour and fifteen minutes, yeah, talking, which was loco. Yeah, but I wish we could have saw each other, but you were just too far away. And again I don't know where I was. I was in one town and they were in another town. So we got screwed up.
But it was crazy. It worked, It worked out well that we still have a nice combo with you. What we needed we did.
But I didn't want you to think it was I was trying to k fab you because I was literally fifteen miles in the other direction at this quality end. So that's what happened.
It's all good, It is all good.
But let me just say something. You look fantastic like you You look healthy, right, yes, very much.
So.
I think your mind is clear very much SOO okay, so going back, I watched ddp's little film that he puts. Yeah, I retweeted that because I was just like, this is so powerful, you know, I want to help spread the word. I want everybody to see it. Can we go back?
I know it.
I don't want it to be painful or anything. And I know you probably talked about it to death, but I think my listeners would like to hear about your journey right take us back, because last night when I was watching The Dark Side, Mark had said, you know, he picked up the phone and he called you and he wasn't aware of your situation. Correct, She is Marcus the one that actually started this journey for you to you know, kind of like come back and to.
Give a little context to what's going on. I know you kind of went through this a little bit with your mom. My mom came ill around twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, and then basically I became here twenty four to seven caregiver right leading into COVID that whole time period there, and it was a four or five year period where I was pretty much emostly mentally physically just drained everything that was going in my life, financially drained everything that
was going on you could think of. There was nothing left to me. I was just a hollow shell basically trying to exist, trying to make everything kind of happen as best I could survive. Was that what was that tatline survive you can't.
Or see if you can survive.
If I if I let you? Yeah, exactly that I was waiting for nature to finally not let me survive anymore in one sense, because something was leading me one way or the other, and what boiled down to it. There came to a point where, uh, the family home
that I was in, I did. I had to take care of my mom's house for us to to live in, basically because I couldn't move over to Hilton Head where I was and I lived on the second floor of a condo and she couldn't go up downstairs for every helper you think of, so went back to the house, put handicapped wraps in, we did her bathroom, everything it could be done to the fit the house for her help and her well being, and she went up and down,
up and down. Great got bisically better would go go go, then boom, have a downturn, then get better, get strunger again. I always thought she would come through this on the other end, flying collars. She had a stroke and at a two years old, that stroke. There's manners, they said it is. There's nothing minor about a stroke like that. So I basically came down to a point where I lost a house, I got poor closed on, and I was living in my car with a cat my mom
one of the last things. And the cat's still around, believe or not. One of the last thing. My mom asked me, she goes, make sure you take care of the cat. And this guy did not like me. When I first moved back home to take care of my mom. He would not come around me. He would do nothing with me. I mean, he hated my guts unless I was feeding him otherwise, boom, he had nothing to dow with me. Walk into a room, he'd walk out of the room.
Wait, he's an Eagles fan, that's why.
Oh jeez, that might be it. I mean, I don't know, really, I don't know.
Well, yeah, but the funny thing about the cat was, I mean, after my mom passed, it still took a year and a half almost for him to actually let me pet him.
Because able to keep the house for about a year or so where he finally would engage me, let me scratch him, pet him, everything else. And I guess the cat realized Mom's not coming back. You know, that his one thing that was his his lifeblood, his person that he adopted. She adopted him, but he adopted her coming back. And I was there all the time, so he finally started let me pet him. So it's me and him in the car and because each other company was pretty
good for a little bit. And i get a text from Marcus one day and I'm really trying to think the best way to say this was just at a at a downward turn where I really was about just to check out. I mean I was, even though it's not the best option. I had looked at every option ahead of me and going, you know, even our VD. As I reached out to him, he was like, dude, go to a shelter or something, you know, maybe I can put your home term. I'm like, no, you don't
do that. I'm like, I have a car to sleep in, so I'm not going to take a bed up on a shelter. So I'm okay, I'll make it. I'm okay, and but I was in my mind get ready to kind of, you know, just check out, and I get the call. I got a text to Marcus goes, dude, Dark Side of the Ring might be one to interview you for a show they're doing. It's coming in a couple months. On the line. I pretty much him a text back and said, I don't know if it be
any good for that. I'm living in my car right now, so thanks anyway, And about maybe five minutes into my phone starts ringing boom boom boom, like going, jeez, do I answer this or not? And it's Marcus if I talked to him, and he's back and forth with me about he's brow beating me about coming up to Atlanta. He's like, dude, I'm in this mansion of a house.
It's the dp's accountability crib with Jake and Scott Hall and Butter being a lot of people stayed in the past, and he shot some shows, so it's more like it was his house, but he turned it into a production house.
Okay.
So Marcus was standing there by himself and he was like, dude, come up here, come up here, and I was thinking about it and like going, well, I was trying to make every excuse in the book. I was like, uh, and he tires in my car. I need this, I need that, and I pretty much hang up with him. And Marcus has Steve You, who is Dallas's Dallas pages right hand man. As far as I know, everyone that has met Dallas and Steve you together, asked ow Dallas. Afterwards, Hey, where
I find to Steve you? That's how good Steve you is. I mean, personality wise, thinking wise, he is a creative genius. She's got a gift. And basically Steve on the phone or stayed in Una Poe. But Steve started recording the next phone call Marcus May. He goes, let's find up what's going on here? And it's something happen this that we can You know, Steve's always always thinking maybe we can get Scotty appear to a story to this. There's maybe a happy ending, there's a there's a struggle, and
that's the way they think that we can. He wants to help people. It's these greatest thing that he wants to invest in, and so he basically I started recording the phone call and Mark was like, dude, you're living in your car. What's going on? So I kind of explained to him, and I was very nice. I'm like, well, yeah, man,
living my car, got this going on. Me and a cat guy placed count you over here where a staked that were pretty much safe at and stuff this and that, and even when Dallas heard the phone call afterwards, just going dude, why didn't y'all do like a take two or take three? Scotty sounds like he doesn't give a rat that. I'm sorry, it doesn't give you know, Scotty sound like he doesn't give a fuck about what's going on. I'm like, dude, honestly, I mean, I was at a
point where I just accepted what was going on. I accepted my fate. I was going to be in control of my faith. Nobody else was. Because I never wanted to burden anybody else. That was always my biggest thing, So I didn't reach out for others for help. Otherways, it was just me being me that I just did
not reach out for help. I probably should have, and anybody else's, anybody else's in a position, I encourage you to do that, even though you want to make up heavy excuse in the book not too I've even I've tweeted out in the past, you know, reach out, you know, through my depression things that I was having years ago and been living with for a long time. And that's basically what happened is Marcus kind of got the ball rolling.
The The funny thing I found out afterwards is Marcus is standing in Dallas's house, So Marcus has to go to, hey, Steve, it's no okay for Scott to come up here. And Steve's like, I'm pretty sure I don't think would be an issue, but yeah, tell him to come up here, tell him what take care of his tires. So I basically called god a tire apartment the very next morning,
Sunday morning, to get my tires shapcare of. And I'm still in my mind trying to figure out way to get out of this in one sense, because I was like, I don't I don't want to do it, you know, I just I'm I'm hostly, really comfortable where I'm at, accepting my fate and ready to go. And so they said, well, I just packed up my stuff in the sense and head up the road and found out later Dallas was actually in Alaska doing the thing up there, and had no idea what was going on until he got back
to where he had cell service. He called the chicker was going on and said, hey, he's okay to sky he registers coming up And I was like, for what, oh for real? Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell him, yeah, be sure, he's already here. He's already here, Okay, yeah, yeah, you know, so I already come up there into another guy's house and didn't feel comfortable being up there at all, just because I didn't feel like I belonged. And that was kind of the where Yeah, Marcus had he was the
the spark. They kind of lit the fire, They kind of got the ball rolling. Because one of the greatest things I found out coming up here was just how loving Dallas was. Steve you, a guy I didn't even know, had a heart of gold. All the people at the PC Center, DPY Performance Center, from Nadia, Kat Dylan, all the guys that worked there, and everything else. You walk in that place, there's energy that is just so real, genuine and positive.
It's twisted, so hold it so you get there. Okay, Dallas comes in from his trip, what is the first thing that he makes you guys do because so many people like you mentioned Scott Hall, Jake Roberts, Butterbean, everybody goes there for help. Okay, that's the thing. You need help. So your state of mind now is you you accept your fate, you don't want to be here anymore, blah blah blah. But you also know that these people are willing to help you. What is the first thing that Dallas makes you do?
Sit down and talk with him.
So you tell him, like, where your mind is that?
Yeah? He he really just sits down and starts questioning what's going on with you? What's been happening? Why did you lose touch with me? All these things? And he's I mean, he's ten years older than me. I'm fifty seventy sixty seven and it was two about a year and a half ago now and that's not even been a year yet, a little over year now, and so he's still he has that older, wiser person and lve me. He's dealt with Jake, he's dealt with Scott, he's dealt
with Marcus. He's dealt with guys who are train wrecks in one sense where they're combative to what's going on me That that would me. And we started talking and within the maybe five minutes, he goes, Dude, all these other guys have had addiction issues, have had alcohol issues or this and that. He goes, you, you just need
to get your mind right. That might be harder, but with you being around the right people and getting doing the right things again in your life instead of you know, giving all your energy to your mom, direct all that to yourself for a change, give it to yourself. And he goes. I said, dude, don't feel like I really belong here. He goes, dude, you do. We love you.
You belong here. How they put it to me, it was the only way you can pay The only way I want you to pay me back for this whole thing is just become the best you you can be. That's all I want you to do. Yeah. And at the point in time, I don't know if you've seen it before and after pictures and stuff like that, but when I came here, I hadn't worked out in probably
five or six years. Body looked like, you know, mashed potatoes. Basically, I had a thirty inch ways waiting two forty one and so it took a couple of weeks basically that they just let me kind of decompress, sleep, wander around, kind of do some stuff in my own little bit, get used to the house. I would actually walk around the house numerous times, going, well, that coffeemaker is actually mine. Down, said it's mine. I can sit in the sofa and I can take a nap on the sofa that's down,
said this is mine. I would walk around every room in the house and it sets to go this is mine's down, said, this is my feel comfortable, this house is yours, and I would have to actually walked around there trying to accept, you know, this is mine. I put it the address of the house on my phone, which is the only way that I actually, in one sense, took ownership of it in a sense if you be able to put it that way, that I said to that
I actually belonged there. And I could actually put the address the house my phone that was my address given to me. Now, so I actually had a place to live with an address to it my phone and everything else that I looked at it and go okay, and now I do belong in that sense. I mean, it's it's all, but it's so good now though.
No I know. Look, I've kept in touch with you over the years, and not once did I know you were living in your car.
You would We're supposed to.
I know that, but like when you would get back to me, you know, you would give me these messages like doing the best I can, kiddo, or you know, taking it day by day, or and they were never like I never got the sense that you were like doing great, but I never knew how bad it was because you kind of sugarcoated it for me, you know.
And I did that pretty much everybody. I didn't want to burden anybody and of the stuff I was going through.
Okay, finish you were You're my friend, You're never a burden, and that that was our comms.
I heard that. I've heard that. Everybody has said that, Jimmy.
And then we can get to a conversation because I cried when I hung up the phone.
I'm just gonna let.
But so finished. So you're you're in this house, which is much nicer than living in your car.
A little bit a little bit of One of the things I found out that between a house and a car is you have room to do this other then.
Is your cat in the house yeah.
Yeah, the house's actually out. He's out. He's outside right now.
Does he come in in Dallas?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I told that was you know, I told Steve I got a cat. He's like, yeah, bring it up. I got I got some cats too. So he actually went to his house, got a pan for me and some keys, letter and put up in my room. Now standing and cat came with me in the room. He's stayed in the room for a couple of weeks. So he started to venture on the house and then he started going more. He's about eight percent outside cat. Even at my mom's we hang out outside all day, cold,
rainy nights whatever. He come inside and then he won't be outside all day. It's pretty much what he does right here. Now. He just goes outside and hangs out and comes in and sleeps from me in the bed. Here was the cat who didn't like me. Now he sleeps in the bed. I wake up in his butt or his face.
He likes you now that you're in the house.
He likes you now. Yeah, yes, definitely, definitely. He's all up in my camp forgetting me. Continue.
So now, so you tell Dallas everything. You're getting to know the house. You take a couple of weeks to get familiarized. Then is it like, okay, we're getting the work.
Well pretty much again. Because I hadn't worked out in so long, it was like, okay, this is what we're going to do, uh to start working out watch, you know. So took me to La Fitness where we worked out and everything else and Planet Putting also with two places they were working out already, so I joined him over there three four nights a week. We started working out.
During the day I actually would be doing I'd wake up because because basically sleep in my car, I would fall asleep out nine o'clock at night, old man style because they got dark, you know, I'd walk my phone for a little bit, like there's no darkness, there's no light, so boom, I fall asleep. Then once the sun came up around six thirty seven o'clock, I was up. Yeah, And so basically I was going on with the house where everybody else would be sleeping until ten eleven o'clock.
Their day would be starting around noon one o'clock and stuff, but you know, go a little bit later, but that's when they're day were starting there. I was up at seven thirty. I started off using elliptical that he had the garage. I'd moved the garage around except the elliptical and start doing some cardio, about thirty forty five minutes of that. Then I'd do about thirty minutes of DDPY,
both flexibility strength just building cardio. I knew if I if I wanted to restart reshaping my body a bit, I got to start doing things that I'd done in the past that did give me joy, that did give me made me feel better about myself. And that was one of the things I had to invest in again.
Instead of point online energy in my mom and didn't care of her, I had to take what energy I had and the energy that everybody else was blessing me with good the grace to be around these guys, and pour that back into myself.
So, but when you're living in your car, your diet had to be horrible, right it was.
Well, it was. It was pretty much as best I could, like a couple of Wendy's chicken sandwiches, trying not to eat the bread, but sometimes to eat the bread. So but you know, two or three chicken sandwiches a day and maybe something else if I can go it to like a to a grocery store and like get a rechischery chicken and stuff like that. Someone eating bad, But I wasn't eating great. It still wasn't eating health.
I wasn't exercising it still right, Okay, So now you're able to exercise, and now you have the capacity to be healthy and eat the right food.
That's what Marcus and Steve both helped me with my diet. Yep ddp helped me with doing the get back into working out with him doing some yoga right, so he would bring me over once or twice a week to do the dep DPY yoga stuff. When he produced me the ice tub that he had in his house to do the ice ice plunge. Loved him. Loved them. Actually, and you'rely supposed to do. Here is some of the
some of the things that started happening. Where I would I would like doing the cardio when the electrical I'll get on there for like a half hour forty five minutes. I found the time I would be doing an hour and we'll get totally lost to my own thoughts. And I had to do that to start strengthening my mind again, to really focus on what I've been through to not want to go through there again, and but I need
that time to do that myself. Also in a better and more positive environment that makes any sense, it does, and they're working out with Marcus and Steve at Knight a couple of times a week. Dows again would have me over and be on him and his wife Page in that environment was more just energy. It's more positive, and it's more focused and doing the plumb. I plunged with dollas you was supposed to do maybe three five seven minutes tops. There were two occasions that were dallases
that he would do the tub first. He'd go in there and start doing some things to warm up and get ready to do some workouts. I get in the tub and I was actually zen out as well. I was. I called it. I was zen. I'd start looking at squirrels or looking at a tree or looking at something and completely get lost. And I was for him for seventeen minutes one time and twenty five minutes another time.
I'm freaking made.
All the one on my neck like this. And they were asked and Tony Freeman, the guy working out with walking and Scotty you, OKAYM like yeah, why he goes, you know all you've been in there, what about ten minutes? Because twenty five, bro, I went WHOA. I didn't mean through, it just happened. And that's where my mind in a sense, needed some of these things to just release itself, to decompressed to there are all these little things that for the longest time I sat there by myself, in my
own lucky mere, just sitting everything weighed me down. There were obviously to take advantage that I just didn't want to. I just didn't.
Because did you feel like you didn't deserve it?
I would say part of it was didn't deserve it, but part of it was I was so just I didn't I think the right way. I just didn't have the energy to pursue it, you know what I'm saying. I just I knew there were things out there, but I just was like, I'm just so exhausted mentally, physically, emotionally from everything doing mom that it was. It's not her fault, but it was just the situation the way the world was in for about a year, you know,
the whole COVID thing. It was just so taxing and so draining on me that I just hit the point of surrender. You know, I was very tap out. Was just it was done. But to get back around the right people, the right atmosphere, have me doing the right things,
I was able to start changing my mindset. I was able to start making the right choices, the right directions, the right like I would always film these little things the last thirty seconds and I'm being on the bike at forty five minutes, you know, forty four to thirty I filmed, and I send it to Steve, Dallas, Marcus RBD, everybody that knew, kind of and it would always get
back you know, just that that encouragement. Dude, you're kicking, but you're kicking assautiful, keep going, keep going, keep going, do your Rochester always back for it, back for And they just kept building on me. And that encouragement made me more more, reach out more, reach out more, and just wanted to In one sense, I wanted to be a like that was to be the best way I can.
But I also wanted to because he had poured so much into me, Steve had, Margaret's had that I wanted to show them that I was worth it, that I was gonna put my work into and earn my spot being there. Yeah, because that's why I've always been got to earn it.
I can relate with the mom. Yeah story, you know, I went through the same thing here.
And that was also one of the other reasons I didn't say anything to you, because I knew you come kind of gone through it. You have the hobby and the kids in one sense to kind of encourage you. And I was like, I can't really add on her because what I'm going through, she's going through and I can't say anything.
Well, we could have, because we could have.
We could have compared Yeah, I could have compared notes and situations, maybe with more encouragement to each other. But again the mindset I had switch did not flip the light. The light bulbent did not turn on. Was you know, to be a resource for each other. Yeah, you know, no, I was just I was a little too selfish and just going I'm just not gonna bother or soul just to a thing, get through this and be.
Able to never bother to your friends, like that's why we're friends. Like friends don't bother friends, and you you have to get that in your head. And you know, one of the things I told you as soon as I saw you, I think the first thing I said was how proud I am of you for even doing all of this, because it's easy to give up, but
it's harder to make the comeback. And you made the comeback, and that's something that you should be so proud of, and we're all so proud of you for doing so, because again, I you know, I knew you were having problems, but I didn't know how bad it was. And even if I did, you know, you can only hear somebody for so long. It's you who has to believe it and do it yourself, and we can encourage you, but then you need to take that next step, and you
did so. That shows a tremendous amount of courage, number one. And look at you now, it's my heart would have broke, honest to god. I mean I've lost so many friends, yeah, over drug, over alcohol, and over depression. I mean, look at Shannon, and you know she's been it's going on three years now, and in my mind, I keep saying to myself, if could I have been there more for her? I don't think I could have, because anytime she would
call me, I would pick up that phone. Yeah, you know, what I mean, and I would have did it for you. And that's what I told you when we talked. If you you know, you have plenty of friends, I get it. But if you need someone.
And you can't, I got plenty of acquaintances, but only a handful of friends. You.
I told you you can call me if if you're falling, if you feel like you're alone, pick up that phone and call me. Because I did not want to hang up that phone the other night, I listened and I let you. You know, a lot of this stuff you told me already, but I feel like it's important for people to hear it because a lot of people struggle, whether it be with substance abuse or with their own mind, you know, with depression. Uh, there are people out there
who care. And even if you think there's not, we are here and we care.
So you I've always been told at one point some of the what are your greatest uh? What you what you uh have? What do you uh? What you consider your greatest weakness is only an untapped strength? Mmm? Interesting? So that that I mean part of my again, my depression was one of my It was a huge weakness to me. But now being able to find out ways to overcome it, not just to put out a tweet I thought of for a couple of days to make people feel good and get two lights and thumbs up
and maybe help one or two people. You get something out of that to hear that from me. But actually, now that was an untapped strength that I have, and now I can kind of come back, as you said, out a comeback where again, one of the coolest things Dallas has always had said to me recently was he Goes. Dude, you didn't what you did in six months. We figured it would take you a year physically to get to
he goes. You went from you know, to forty one with a thirty inch thirty thirty eight inch waist if you know how round that is to go to a I mean about two twenty four with a thirty four inch waist thirty five minutes right in between there. So I lost three to eight four inches on my waist
six months. And that was diet, that was working out, That was getting up every morning and instead of just getting up and doing a little bit of this, a little bit of that, and then not doing anything the rest of today except existing, I gave myself a purpose. I gave myself direction and everybody was something with a
discipline part by you know, staying on me. You know, Marcus would encourage me to do this, Dallas don encourage me that, Steve would be make me on this, and each one was kind of whether they knew it or not, I don't think they game planned it, but they were all helping with little bits and pieces. Steve was always helping me with my thought processes, telling me instead of I would get I'd be way too argumentative with him.
So I was always trying to like I didn't mean to be, but I was being like, he would tell me this, so I go, but if you think about it, no, no, no, and he'd be going and this, and then listening, and then when he says something, I go but still and I would never let him finish, and he finally would go, dude,
stop arguing, arguing. It was no shut up for a minute, and then he was working my mind to make me start thinking, Okay, listen more zip It be like be be at the Greenhorn Wrestlers, yip your mouth, clean your ears out and listen. You know, when you're in the ring calling match and listen to the veteran and that's so Steve was doing with my mind, and I didn't realize until after the fact that that's where Steve was
helping me out. Dallas was doing the same thing, working mind and my spirit and and my physical with the workouts and stuff like that, being his energy, his positive vibe, just the way that he wanted to see me successful. And then and Marcus with my diet and workouts. Marcus helped me to get cleaned up my diet and getting
the carbs on the system, all these little things. And once my body started getting healthier and my mind cleared, and I just got that just that darkness and turning a few lights, which is I just sat back and said, you know, there is a reason to live. There are people who do love me. And that was one of the biggest things I took waiting for a conversation, is whether I realized it or not. And it's been a major blessing about going to a couple of conventions Racis
and a couple of things. Is just seeing some folks that I hadn't seen him in twenty years, thinking, man, these people don't like me, and they hadn't seen me forever. You know, I was part of it. I was American Medals. Mark Bagwell Market was the heat sinking missile, and because I was with Marcus, I was the heat siking missile too. So boom boom, I was getting left right just from being with Marcus. Boom. I get to the other side too, just for being with Marcus. So I was that that
was part of the it was it. It was part of the thing about being American mail too, But it was just to be around an energy that I did see these people, I mean one of the one of the funniest worts that I can put. This is my first match, or my margus is first match with w c W was fall braw, the main event before the pay per view show. We had to wrestle the nasty boys. There's nobs and SAgs, so I really don't know. I'm
the young guy that had to put us over. So they're not happy behind to put the young guys over. I'm the complete rookie greenhorn coming from usw A. They didn't like that, so Knobs not but SAgs, dark haired guy tell me bullollss me into the corner and hits me with twenty two unanswered live round punches and kicks. Bathing trying to you know, duncan dodge, but getting just getting land basic because it came out of nowhere. Randy
Anderson referees trying to interject stop it. SAgs the nobs comes over and preaches them off, and what are you doing now right? You know what, I'm just walking into the company with what he was what he screamed out, and I'm just going, wow, hello, I got a nod on my head and sorry's coming up. I can feel it all this stuff. But at the the it was the big event in New York. I went up there and I see Kevin Nash. I walked toward and said the little cabinet. Kevin was like, oh, hey, Sky, how
are you going? I gotta gorish as ready to leave, so good to good talk to you see you later. After like ten seconds of Kevin like going okay, that was kind of like, uh, that was no fun. But out of the corner of my eye, here's jobs as SAgs, especially SAgs Scotty good come on here, you're bastard. I'm like, holy cow, you know, here are two guys. I thought. Jumie did not like me at all, calling me over from across the room, after not after Snash blows me off.
But here are two cats who I thought didn't like me at all calling for me to come over. Ye, SAgs Nobbs. We couldn't get up, but same a big barrel hug and I'm like going, wow, this is completely what my mind did not think up with these guys right, and they were so happy to see me. It was that same type of thing of like, man, you know, we've lost so many people on the way. Nobody knew how you were. You fell out of this that we didn't see you. Nobody knew if you were alive, dead,
you're still alive. We're good to see you. You look great. You know. This is when I got in good shape. You know, it's been about nine months, you know, eight nine months when I when I saw them and they were like, wow, dude, you look great and everything else
is so to me. That was just a huge thing kind of like what we were talking about on the phone call was just hear that people that I don't think give up finding physicizing about me, but they do, you know, And that was that became real and genuine space.
Like I said, and SAgs of all people goes because I told that story the day before at a signing with a couple of guys at this coming with Restling Store and because it's one of my best first ever w c W stories Live House by SAgs, he goes Man thought at this thought, all you telling that story make me feel bad. I'm like, dude, it's the best story I've got when from my introduction to the company, because you and he goes so, it's not bad like no,
to me, it's just a rough beginning. You know, it's a rough welcome, but you know it was it was you welcome in me though it was a thing that it was kind of we could be bad, but I never never new because we never never. But at the end, twenty years later, twenty five years later, those were so super cool and I just felt that genuine there was a bond, there was something that was there, and I felt welcome and I felt I actually loved by these
guys that never thought they did. Yeah, the complete that right there, that energy that they gave me, that love they gave me was something I didn't expect. But it made me think, and there are people who are probably out there who just don't know them around or think that guy on Twitter is not the real guy or whatever it is. No matter how much interaction we have, whether the nois mean or not, or whether you know I don't, it's hard to tell somebody you love in
the one hundred and forty words or whatever. It's when, too, you actually see them in person again. Yeah, you know. Yeah, from Bill After to Medusa to Jerry Brisco, all of them just showed nothing but complete love or respect for me. It was something I didn't think was there. That is there. And Shane Douglas to everybody along the way, Diva Deley was was one that was a big hugging a kiss from him every time I seen I've seemed like three
times now of these shows. So to me, that's just another amazing person who I knew respect and love there who crossed the way, and to get that from him. Yeah, So I'm finding out more and more again this is my own mind working against me and these people who know me. I just thought they didn't give they didn't care about me, But they do.
I told you, you have to focus your energy on the people who do love you. Yeah, and then the other ones are just acquaintances. And you can get from a passing wave and you keep walking, and you stick to the people who care about you, and you'll know who they are. Like you said, you can tell, you know, I can tell when I go to these things, yea. And for those who don't, I'm just like, hi, Marian, keep walking. But the ones that I know care about me,
you know, that's where I spend all my time. There you go, you get the good energy, you know, and you're not the only one. If anybody listening has ever been a caretaker, I think we all go through that state of depression where you know, it's kind of like like I felt, as much as I loved my mom and I did a whole show about this in tears, as much as I loved my mother and I took care of her for sixteen years, we did with no help, Me and my husband and my kids, no help whatsoever.
But towards the end it was kind of like we were I hate saying this, but we were prisoners in our own home because we couldn't leave, you know, we were never able to go anywhere, couldn't even go to dinner. She couldn't be left alone. We didn't have anybody help her, right, there was no help coming in. I don't have family that it's close and everybody works so they can't try out whatever. But you know, it was kind of like resentment, but then the guilt of you know, I feel like
my world's falling apart. I can't take my kids out, I can't go places with my husband. I have to take care of my mother. But I did it because I loved her. Same thing with you. You loved your mother, But where were you supposed to be?
I always always thought about them as many times as a kid that she had to wipe my butt. I said my diaper, I had to do that.
All white viewers now that full circle, it's.
Yeah, that's the same. That's the same thing I told her, And she made a scallo at me, and don't you dare wipe my butt? I'm like, we ain't got much of a choice, mom, They got much of joration and she hated it, but I you know, when I know she hated it, I hated having to do it. But then it was still that scenario where it's like, you know, she knew it was genuine and I wasn't just because I had to do it. Yeah, she was grateful. I was.
I was in my mind, I was giving back to her for something that she did for me, and it was something that I was blessed to do it. In one sense, it was a little bit tough, tough.
It was the hardest experience. I will, I will get you a cook when I see you. But it was hard. It was hard for me, and I went through a depression. No, I never wanted to kill myself or it wasn't. It was just in my mind. I'm like, oh my god, you know, if what if she lives to be a hundred and I'm now sixty years old and the time goes by and I can't do Like part of me felt selfish for thinking that, but when I discussed it with other people, they were always like, no, that's that's normal.
It's it's normal. You're sacrificing your whole life to take care of this person, and you're being up time with your family to you know, to Basically, she's another child. She became her child, and she was a baby all over again.
Right. I never had kids, so in one sense, mom became my kid. I mean you do it that way.
Yeah, like taking care of a child, and I listen, I would do it all over again and her because I loved her so much, but it drained me to the point where I was walking around depressed because you know, it's tough.
It's hard, Yeah it is.
So I know exactly part of what you were going through. It didn't get to that next level. But you know, I feel like she knew that I loved her, and your mother knew that you loved her. And you know, we're good people, and I have to get that in my head. You know a lot of people wouldn't do this for them. They throw them in a home or they you know whatever. We love our parents, we take care of them, so admirable for you to even do that,
you're a good person. You need to realize how good of a person that you are and that people do genuinely love you. And that's what I was trying to reiterate to you on the telephone.
Yeah you did. You got it into my mind thinking. I mean, every conversation had with everyone that is a genuine friend of mine has reshaped my thinking about whether I'm loved, whether I'm just accepted, or whether I'm just acknowledged.
Because you kept saying to me, I need to get there, and I'm like, Scottie, You're there, No, I need to get there. And I was like, we think you're there because we love you, so you're there. You need to realize you're there, right.
That's still yeah, that's still the point every time I keep saying, I still don't need to because when the stings, you know, final match came up and me and Dallas throwed up together. We had a nice five hour ten hour round trip window of conversation time and it was gonna be fun travel with Dallas one on one and
have a deep conversation. And we did and hit me every little point from dating here to this situation there, to where I want to live and that, you know, in the future, because I always want to go back to the beach and they want me. They're like, well, dude, you need to stay here for a little long longer. You know, you were at the point where you wanted to kill yourself and but you know you need to be here to keep growing and stuff like that, to
keep working here. Maybe you can find some avenues can where you can you know, work this, work that. And I said, well, and before that was can even get to certain points, I said, I said, Dode, so more, most important thing about any of this right now, I still got to keep working on me. Yeah, I still got to strengthen me. There are points in my own
mind that I know I got to strengthen. There are points that I find I gotta find, you know, what's going to meet the foundation I built and still need to build on me to those points, to that when the right person comes along again, I'll be ready for that person. They don't have to struggle to meet neet me. You know that we're bumping heads on the way, which is good still, but I still need need to be more working on me right now because yeah, still Atlanta, you're still there.
Yeah, okay, okay.
Still around the right people, still around that, you know, the whole right crew is still around me, still encouraging me. Still everything uh as as and growing on and stuff like that. But that was when I told that him
in the car ride. He goes, that's the best thing I heard you say right now because instead of running to a relationship, or instead of running to this or running to that, you know, you still are focusing on you, which means uh, the because none of us expected you to be you're at in this short amount of time. You blew the dwarves away. You got your mouth thinking you blew the doors away on that. How good you look now?
So every beard off that was keep done.
The beard was a security blanket for sure. You know it was the best way. And I don't know, I look at a lot of pictures, even back in I think it's twenty twelve or twenty thirteen, with the last big events that they with Marcus, I had a big beard because I just want to chance with a beard out. I just like the beard. I just do. Actually had a little bit of stumble going on before this. I went. I started thinking, the last time I was on your show,
I had a beard going. So I'm gonna go ahead and take five minutes before I was right right before you. I shaved. I shaved the beard down. So if they do look back in the in your in your in your past stuff and I see the old man there with the beard and stuff like that, this time a whole other one. A year later. I'm clean even, great, smile, great, and you know, and tanned as orn Anderson would always say that looks better tanned you got.
Because I'm well as a ghost. So that's you got me with the tanning. But you look great. You look great. I couldn't be more proud of you. Honestly, you're doing a hell of a job. Chad, do you have anything you want to ask them?
It's just incredible to watch. I mean I watched the whole thing the second that came out when it hit online, and it just you know, I've followed you for years because I interviewed you back in twenty fifteen, you know, like a two hour, thirty minute epic covering your start to your finish, and just you've always been so giving
to everybody. You know, you give great answers, you give great details, and it's you know, you've always been so open about your struggles, and you've always been so caring to fans when they've reached out to you and said stuff online. So I've just always appreciated seeing you, know you you've been so cool with everybody, and it's just it's so nice to see how you've recovered here. So my head off to you, and I alwaysreciate coming on the show Man.
One of the funny things that put the funny thought pot. No, Mom, you said you give great answers. You know, you get great detail and stuff, and like going well Chris Jericho would tell will tell you that, he'd ask me what time it is, and I tell him how to go to watch and never never know, never get to the time of oh, by the way, it's you know, four thirty or whatever. You know, my stories until unless you got me a little bit temple to ramble as Riggs.
No, it's great, but I'll.
Make the place says it's a great story. But I never get to the point.
How about this? So when you got to the crib right and they showed you, you know what they have at the operation where you like completely floored with the whole production and how they have this whole like mecca of filming and all these great you know, well filming, uh you know processes.
Now, as in that point, see the stuff we did at the at the crib, there wasn't anything that was actually being filmed on a daily basis or something like that like them before with Jake and Scott at Hall and marcuson better beating those guys. When I moved in, it was just being Marcus Marcus's girlfriend Stacy, and that was pretty much it. I was up in one corner of the house Margaut Stacy the other corner of the
house and we meet to go work out. But we all kind of lived our separate lives a little bit, so there wasn't a production stuff through them that was
going on. We were just living there. And that was actually the best environment for me, because all of a sudden, I have a camera maybe in my face or this going on or that going on, or that would have probably would have maybe go okay, cool, at like three o'clock in the morning, pack my car and disappear, because that would probably not have been the thing that would not have been the thing to hit me where I was at at that time, to be part of a TV show, okay, And so we we we took something
like that. That one that before picture from March of twenty three. That was one picture, one take before I started working out. It was like when I first got to the crib, it was like, hey, I was tink it before picture boom And Dallas's first thing to say is what makes the best after picture? A really shitty before picture? And I had a really shitty before picture. Believe me. I look at it and go, God, I hate to show that thing, but look at you now, Yeah the thing is now. I go look we there,
here's six months and then there's nine months. Yeah, and Dallas for the longest time wouldn't let me or anybody else show that before picture because he wanted it for the big reveal at the end of it. And the funny thing is the guys who worked out of the gym with there's a couple of guys. We got to know each other pretty quick. When they throw me Marcus, they knew who we kind of worked for the America
Mail to start to ask us questions stuff. Uh, and they I was always wearing like a long sleeve that was Cowboys T shirt. Basically everything I had on was always long sleeve and sent for my shorts. I still have my calves. My dad blessed me with good calves. Kept I always showed the calves off, so I had the calves going for me. But I always kept everything covered and like most bodybuilders were peaking for a contest, almost always covered. And I started, you know, just working
out that way. As my body started to shape shape, reshape, everything started moving directions, everything started getting back to how I looked before. Some of the guys started looking at on going what are you hiding on that thing? You know. Also I started tanning a little bit too, started getting a little color, and then we took the I had the big beard going long, strutty haired at Grizzly Adams a long time ago. And one of the guys that we were close to, uh his name is Josh Naire.
Actually there who does the a W interviews backstage. It's his daughter and but uh, but Josh had a couple of friends that would that that came in to do my face, turn my beard up and do my hair and stuff like that. So we did that, and that's where that first photo with me with the beard the hair going up that way, that first photo, but was after six months, and then the nine month later came also and Dallas was like, uh, we went to the same thing. He was showing the picture because here's Scotty
a year ago. Here he is six months and said, I want to show him the nine month He goes, yeah, yeah, you got that, don't you. So I started showing that. That was our gimmick we had going me and Dallas, here's that that that, here's this now it was only three weeks ago. That's like, bro, give me that, give me that picture. So I went from this to Dallas to go boom boom boom because he wanted to do the dramatic.
You know, here's what did two Eyes do for him, the diet and Steve Margus everything boom boom boom, boom boom. And you know, Dallas is like, dude, we've had some transformations on the way because but you've been the fastest, the best one I've ever had, and you've been the
most eloquent one to be able to show everybody. That's the reason they want me to stay around is because I can be that person for them right now that is live and breathing right here in front of them, that they can just boom at any point in time, grab me and show me off in a sense, which for what they gave me from when I came in. Use me, abuse me, take advantage of me anything you want, because if we can make because we can use this to make somebody else better. Now do it.
Yep, absolutely, let me hold on. You need to do me one favor. Next time you talk to Dallas, which is probably gonna be later, tell him I said thank you for saving my friend.
Please will do that. Please do go ahead.
My comment makes literally no like merit now it means nothing. I was just saying, when you grow back the beard, it's got to be the little dotty, scruff American man. No, I think he looks great without it, but if he did, it's got to be the American male, little five o'clock shadow.
Well, the only problem with the five o'clock shadow now is it's all white. Yeah, well you know, you know, it's all gray white. There's old salt and pepper, but there's no salt and pepper anymore. So it looks so even though even Steve and Marcus will say, dude, shave that off because it just makes you look old, you look.
Younger, you look much younger without younger.
But I do, miss. I was telling Steve last night before we're working out, like, dude, looking at where we're going, and we did les. I'm looking, man, I missed my beard.
Do you a little bit of the what is that called?
Just from oh that? No, like a little bit of dark? And see, I don't want to die my hair either. You know, I've embraced my gray. I don't want to die.
You don't have to do with that. You're fine the way you are.
Thank you.
You you are amazing You're an amazing person. Your story is just it's it's the perfect ending. This is the perfect ending. You're doing great. I'm so proud of you. I every day is a blessing and that's what you have to tell yourself. Yeah, definitely, And don't look ahead, you know, a month from now, a year from now. Just take it for every day one.
Is that just just you know? And I'm kind of worst sometimes about Uh. I don't know if the worst I mean might not be the right word, but I always call myself the old man in the group. As I am, I'm other than Dallas. I'm fifty seven to s fifty seven, Like, yeah, I've been a grumpy rigs you know. Then, and I saw the thing that Bruce Lee says, Uh, don't even use words like that about yourself in a joking way, because you're buying. Your body doesn't know your words are joking. That's why it's called
spelling words. You spell words because the cat your words cast spells. So if you say something negative, even in a funny way about yourself that your body doesn't know, you're teasing that your body doesn't know you're joking. It uses that those words negatively as your energy. So that that's something I learned about going. Man, I'm going to stop busting home chops about being the old guy. Yeah, stop breaking your exactly. But I do it for entertainment. Facts.
But but but my body doesn't try to entertain everybody. My body is saying, hey, you are old. You gotta know I'm not old.
We're only as old as we feel. I feel like exactly, so you know, I guess I'm one hundred years old.
But or if if you're a hundred, brandy, you're awesome looking hundred thank you.
Where where can people see you next? What are we doing.
Right now? I don't have anything really coming up at the moment, Okay, but you can always follow me on real Scottie Riggs on Twitter, Real Scottie Riggs on Instagram. I'm getting a lot more active on Instagram than I ever have been. I never took pictures until just now recently. But hope, we've got we've got We've got a couple of things that are coming into the mix. That's Uh, the DPY stories came out on Margarets myself starts to have the ring and everything else. Uh, so we're getting
some connections, some calls about stuff. But to book me h for any conventions, any other podcasts, autograph signs or whatever. You can go to book Scottieeridgs at gmail dot com. Cant that me through there, or you can even go to Marcus Buff Bagwell at gmail dot com to book
the American Mails Together. Perfect. There's two ways you can get either one of us that since we get a lot more calls about doing the American Males thing, which is really cool because we can also go as Buff and Scottie and still do our own things separately, so and be there together.
Absolutely.
It's like kind of you and Shane when you can do the your three thing with it with these three or these three you see one of those, one of y'all have that thing going together. But yeah, there you go. But but but y'all can do Shane or yourself and you and yourself Frannie so and it works great, y'all. You're you're working ten together and we we still do the same thing here.
Perfect well do I again. I'm thrilled. I'm so happy and grateful that you're still with us and that you're thriving and you look incredible, and just keep being positive.
There's a light more of these guys. Was the last time we did this podcast together.
There I like a whole different aura, you know what I mean. And it's a pot and and my heart's happy, and that's all I can say. So you know I'm going to check up on you from time to time because I told you that, and you know you're just gonna have to accept that.
But I do, I do, you do.
But if you need me, I am a phone call. Awafe.
Thank you so much. Been a pleasure chat with you guys. Thanks for listening again all my life. I'm so much better now in a sense that we're gonna see here and not just talk about random wrestling things about life stuff.
We talk about some life stuff that hopefully anybody else who loses can maybe get a better just lease on life, better breath in life that you know, if I can use that way to really encourage somebody to find that, you know, to reach out to somebody and find out there's a grace that's better for them, because that was something I didn't realize there was. There are people who do love me, There are people who do gave me
grace and gave me hope. You know, Stinger. Every time I talked to him, he was always you know, we get quiet a man, and he'd be praying for me, and he'd always say, I always getta lie from him a Bible verse somewhere where he would always be praying for me. And when I saw him and this thing, when I first walked in with Dallas, Sting and his sons were by ringside, which might be fifty yards away
from where I walked out by the entrance. Then I was going to try to work my way to him, but then he started walk up the ramps, so we're going away from me to her this way. Be turned around, walked up to him. I said, Stinger, hold on moving parts, foul. But other than that was kind of going on because he was like, it might be a little too active, but whole on moving parts for you and Marcus to come up, parents and everything else. Marcus couldn't come goose
foot surgery, but I came up. And the funny thing was to even come up to the thing because we were still headitant about going to it until Sunday Duck called up, sent me a text and said, hey, we heard you. We know you're coming up. We're gonna get your hotel room, take care of this, take care of that. So a w instead of just coming, gave me the invite awesome very next day, which was a complete blessing.
So to finish this thing story, will I'll come, went, hey, I want your parts, foul, don't go look and he looked over for me. He just swings over it and before you get anything else, he goes, dude, I was still captivated by your story, by you and Marcus, by everything else. I love it. I'm so happy for you. I'm glad you're here. I'm going to give you a
hug in a minute. He finished this real quick, get up here, but he would not let me see anything else, and he just went I was captivated by y'all story because by the second half of your thing, he goes it just I could not stop watching. It's good. The first part of your Marcus is like twenty four minutes. My other part, individually, my teeth and another part of my adventure was about another eighteen nineteen minutes. So he
sat back and watched both back to back. That's a forty five minut the window of time that he devoted to it. He was due. I'm so proud of you. Like you said, I brought tears my eyes.
Oh you don't do it. Don't make me cry again. I'm not doing it, Scott.
We'll do it. We'll do it.
I cried at the table, I cried after the phone call. Now I have tears in my eyes again. But it's all love. It's all.
It's all. It's all. It's a good cry. It's a partive energy and good tears. Now. Yeah, so yeah, okay, you see rustlers cry. You know, Cody cried on TV. We got the Cody criers out there.
This isn't this isn't supposed to happen again. I'm just so proud of you. So if you need me, but know that I love you.
Please, love you too, both of you. Thank you so much for having me, and go.
Thank Dallas for me, because I will. He saved the friends and I'm eternally grateful for that.
So we will always do that.
All right, Doc, I will see you soon, I hope.
Chad, Thank you, brother, Appreciate you here, Scottie, all the best talk soon, Yes, love y'all. I love you. Bye. Oh wow, man, that's awesome.
I know he came to the table. I put up a picture of us, and uh, I cried at the table, and I cried during our phone call and when I hung up, because man, it's it's it's it's a good story.
Though unbelievable, it's a good story and it's true.
I do think Dallas for saving his life, Marcus and Dallas. You know, if Marcus didn't call him God forbid.
Yeah, yeah, you know, when we had him on the first time, you know, I guess I love every time. You know, when I interviewed him years ago, was amazing, great stories, amazing details, the whole night yards just like what I said when he was on. And then when we had him on, you guys are shooting the breeze and telling old stories and blah blah blah blah blah. You know, it was great and it was fun, but then you read the stuff he was putting online and it was just feeling. I would feel so sad because
it just you could feel some of the pain. But then he would be encouraging other people through his pain. Right, you could see he was hurting, but he would be telling other people, get help, I'm here for you, you know, and it'd be like, man, like, he's such a good soul, but you can feel he's hurting. So then when all that stuff started to come out, the outpouring of love from the wrestling community, which was always there, was just out of this world. And I'm just I'm so glad
to see all that. And that guy that was just on here looks like a million dollars and he looks awesome.
He looks so it's like you suffer in silence, oh, you know, to anyone, And I know, like you know, being you saw me go through it. Being a caregiver that is a huge responsibility and it does, you know, it takes its toll on you. And then when you lose the one you love, that's awful too, and then you have to bounce back. And you know, at least I have a support group here, but Scotty was all
alone and it was hard for him. So anytime I would talk to him, he would never let on to me that he was as bad as he was, and I had no clue. And then when I saw him, he just everything just came out and oh my god, it just touched me. You know, I don't want to see any of my friends struggle. Yeah, So a sad story, but a happy ending, thank God. And he's doing great and he looks great. And if you're not following them, go follow him because.
He's well, oh yeah, story is not over.
It's just it's just beginning. Now. He has a newly saw life, which I love. So that's great.
Do I have to do this again?
I should make that his ringtone when he calls me? Do people still do that with the film? Can you customize people?
You probably can?
But it's I don't know how. It's a little corn Oh it's funny though.
And it's all about it's all about the beginning.
It would pop him if I did it, that's for sure.
He heard it, did I tell you? They played it on the bus, the party bus from my bachelor party.
They they played American Males? Were they playing all the entrance music?
Not all of them, but that one was played just for the goof part of the American Males being like the corny funny you know?
Did they play perfect Strangers?
I think they probably did, because that was on every CD that I made.
Do you know that when we went to the dive bar the other weekend with Widow that I talked about in the other interview or was it this interview.
Yeah, yes, yeah, it was this.
It was this interview. The guys that were there were two promoters with us that brought Guido in. They went to the jukebox and they played Everybody's Entrance over and over again, and I was like, dude, really, like, how many times do we have to hear this song? Oh my god?
Yeah?
I think Perfect Strangers on every CD that I made for my car between two thousand and one and about two thousand and nine, just about everyone.
Wow.
Okay, all right, great interview. Great guy, what do you got going on?
Well, before I got what's going on? You got something big going on, don't you.
It's coming up this weekend this Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I will be appearing all three days April fifth, sixth, and seventh at Wrestle Common and Masters of Ring Entertainment and More Wrestling. You can go to More Wrestling dot com for more info. They're bringing in in Shane and I, so we'll be there all three days, and also that Friday from four to seven pm, we'll be at the block party for Icons of Wrestling over at the ECW Arena.
I think it's called the two thousand Arena now or something or.
Twenty one hundred arena, twenty three, twenty three hundred, you're getting close. One May three hundred three.
Is that the address? Yes, oh, okay, twenty three hundred Arena. I'll be there from four to seven signing autographs and then I'm on the Big Shoe that evening, the Big Shoe, the Big Shoe. So if you're in the area, which a lot of people are flying in from all over for Wrestle Coan, come and see Shane and I and it'll be a good time.
Yeah, really looking forward to it. They're flying in from countries we never even heard of to get to wrestle kan.
Yeah, they really do. It's it's it's the big one. So and one of my outfits is so awesome and so utterly ridiculous at the same time, and I can't wait to wear it.
Do you have c h A D be dazzled on it?
And no, no, it's be dazzled but not with Chad, damn it. It's so ridiculous.
I gotta get one of those Bobby the brain heen and jackets.
Oh my god, I was wearing it because I you know, I've been kind of like wearing like normal clothes to these, but you know, Russell CON's a big deal. So I went and I bought like gimmicky outfit. Where the hell do I think I'm going? Like if I in uh one of the what were they at music City? Uh Radio City music called the Rockets or something with these cothers in my hair.
It's it's crazy, but the can while you say it can't wait great, feel so inclined. You want to follow me? It's at chatty and be on Twitter. If you want to uh get more of us, head on over to the the eyes of your YouTube channel.
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Know what's over?
It's over? Never mind, I have but buy them from you?
Right?
When do you have them? I don't know
If you're saying extreme