Okay, that's the lovely tunes of Moose's Little Daughter. But this is Eyes up Here, and you're listening and watching the brand new Eyes up Here exclusively on Patreon, on the Creative Control Network, and everywhere in between. If you didn't know by now, my name is Chad, and every single week I'm joined here by the Queen of Extreme Franccene. Hello, Hello, how are you. I'm doing very well. How are you? How was your holiday, sir? My holiday was great. It
was wonderful. I'm just very quite sad to see it go, because yeah, it was really good. I really enjoyed like every single second of it. So I was kind of sad to see it end. But we still got time. We got New Year's coming up. So I ripped the stockings right off the mantle yesterday. Did you really come on, you Scrooge, get ready to take that tree down. I'm like, I'm over it. Kids were sad, Kids are like, oh, it's over. And I say the same thing every year.
I'm like, look, we do it again. Next year. It will come back, you know, you get it again. But yeah, I and and I made a huge blunder. One of the gifts that I bought we already had. I didn't even know it. And my son goes, it's okay, mom. It was a racing cars, you know, picks our cars. I thought it was a different one, and so hubs is mouth and me, that's the same one. And my son goes, no, Mom, I'll put I'll put them next to each other and instead of racing two, will race four.
It'll be great. My heart just got so big. I was like, oh, you're so sweet, thank you. So yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, I could have returned it, but he had already ripped it open and started putting pieces together, so I was like, okay, well, you know, if he's happy, I'm happy. But they seemed to be pleased with their gifts and very nice. Yeah it was. It was a quiet day for us, but relaxing, really relaxing. I like that.
I like these, and I was thankful we didn't have to go anywhere because the weather just was ridiculously cold, like it was cold minus sixteen was the wind chill factor or whatever that is, like the real feel minus sixteen. So I was like, well, I am so glad we're not going anywhere. It was that two days before Christmas. Where it was like that you couldn't go outside cold, and I, yeah, nowhere during that two day span, Christmas almost felt like a heat wave because here it got
to like thirty Yeah. Well Christmas Eve is when we usually would travel, and it was cold. On Christmas Eve, it was really cold, so I was happy that we didn't have to go anywhere. But yeah, I think it got like a balmy twenty two degrees or something. On Christmas. It got a little warmer, but still it was. It was just it's been freezing freezing here. Yeah, and you know they're telling us, oh, can you lower your heat
at night to conserve energy? Just like free're right. I got up to seventy one in here because it gets cold, and yeah, seventy one yeah, and that seems to be the magic number because if you drop it the seventy then you're like, you know, wrapped in a blanket. Yes, And seventy two is too warm. I feel like seventy two is you're like, oh my god, I'm in the Sahara. Yeah. But that was, you know, it was, it was good.
I'm thankful when the holiday is over, though, I like to take everything down right away and not being a ball humbug, but it's it's oh no, no, it's done. I'm enjoying it while it's coming. The week of. Yeah, you were getting ready the day of, and then the twenty sixth, I'm over it. And now Christmas starts earlier every year, so it's not like you have the same amount of time to wait. You Basically, like in September,
people start start preparing for it. By October, it's in all the stores, and then in November, everybody's done with Thanksgiving and they're ready for Christmas. The worst part is when you're driving around, maybe the twentieth to twenty ninth. I know people leave their decorations up until like after New Year's Day. I'll allow that, Okay, I'll allow that. But then January second comes, I'm driving around, I still see decorations. January twenty fifth comes, I still see decorations.
February fourth, I still see decorations. Take your frigging shit down. I'm sick of February is too far. I will give it looking at it. Yeah, people, And I know there's some people who keep their lights up because they can't keep taking them. Okay, you have your lights up, don't turn them on. Just leave them, but don't have the Santa waving at me with the reindeer with the frosty Get it down, it down. Yeah, oh god, that's freaky, but get that shit down. I'm tired of it. I
don't want to see it anymore. I don't want it. I want everything down, go back to normal. I'm with you on that absolutely. Last year we took it down right away. But this year, but we also moved into this house right around Halloween, so we hadn't been in the house yet without decorations, like, we had not seen the house in its regular form. So I think on the twenty seventh or twenty we ripped it all down. This year, I like, I don't want my tree is
like this beautiful tree. I don't want it looks so nice in the corner. I don't want to take it over. It looks so nice. I got the tree mote, click that thing it turns on. I went yes. So we went yesterday later in the day to hit some of the clearance sales rep for you know, bags on the clear and sales things are priced where they should be. Not in the current inflation world. It's like where they used to be priced. Okay, I went and got the tree mote for all the trees we have in the house.
So what does that do? At one push? They all go on, Is that it? And it's all or said, I'm on the timer or what. But I needed them because I'm down to plug it in anymore. I can't kid, I just don't. I've earned the right to press the button. I don't need to lean over. But we had right I thought about that. We have because we have four trees now in the house, one in a basement, one a dining room, one in the foyer, and then one
in the family room. So fancy, and you think I'm bending down to start clicking all those, but you get the kids to do it. I did do that, do it? Yeah, But sometimes if I'm up before them, I like to just click it and look at it. When get my car offee in the morning. You know, you're so sentimental, I am. You're usually a heart ass, and now when Christmas comes, you're all soft different. So now I'll just tell you this before I get our guests in here.
In about maybe two minutes or so. The little one woke up at three o'clock in the morning on Christmas Day, on Christmas even and the Christmas Day and was texting us on the iPad, can we get up? Can we get up? And you know, Liz had it on the sound so it was going I'm like, oh my god, Oh my god. And then my phone on vibrates going oh. She sent twenty three messages to me, fifteen to Liz and uh. They slept in the basement because we let the cat roam because I thought she would attack the presence.
And five o'clock in the morning, she was so nervous she threw up. She threw up, why because she she was bothering you guys. She was so like, oh, with excitement, and she she said to Maddie, said, Maddie, I think I'm gonna throw up, and went to the bathroom, threw up, and it was like I feel better now, Oh my god, stop it. So it was just funny, like three o'clock in the morning and we got up at like six
twenty or something like that. Yeah, man, it was. She slept till ten o'clock the next day, long, till god ten o'clock. That's amazing. Hence why I fell asleep early last night, right, because we were just we're still beat from it. But yeah, I love it. I can't get enough of it. Was there a gift for your kids that stood out like they that they really wanted that they freaked out when they opened it this year? Not it wasn't like I think the Marquee huge gift. But
they were just very satisfied with everything they got. Like I don't think anything's just been like pushed to the side or oh yeah, you know whatever, Like uh, bre wanted the Louis House. We got her abe Louis House, not the lights and sound like supreme o house. We got her like a Carrie case little one. Okay. Maddy wanted new Catcher's gear, you know, like you want to just dance for the Switches dance. So it was. It was a really good holl I had a lot of fun.
I think it was one of the best ones ever. Oh well, that's great. I'm glad you guys had a good time. Thank you, and the kids were happy. And hopefully twenty twenty three is better for everyone. Oh I needed to be better. This has been This year has had a lot of a lot of shit sandwiches, I mean passed down the old chain and I don't like any shit sandwiches. I like to have a nice, clean, regular sandwiches. It just I don't know. There were parts of it that were just more annoying than it needed
to be. Yeah, well, there are certain things you can have no control over, so you have to go with the flow, as they say. But I want to make some moves in twenty twenty three. I want to. Yeah, I want to shake things up. So we're gonna we're gonna try and collab and get that going, and please shake shake it up. Shaking it up, baby, I'm making moves. I'm taking names, emails, everything. I can't work for the man anymore. Okay, I want to work for myself. I
can't do that here. I want to work for the man. I want to work for I'll work for you too. You're you're on a short list of people I work for. Yeah, well I'm easy. No. I just feel like there's such a market out there that we have not tapped. But I don't know where to put my finger because it's so huge and I'm exploring different options and trying different fingers so huge, or the market's so huge, market is so oh my finger is dainty, thank you very much.
But yeah, I'm just you know, wanting to work a lot in twenty twenty three and get the ball rolling while I'm still I'm still young, I'm still fifty. Fifty one is approaching. Good lord, Yeah you really, you know, preemptively stated the Fifty and Fabulous Tour was going to be the curtains on the career of the Queen of Extreme. But I think I predicted that. I think it's just
kind of like getting started into its next phase. I think maybe promoters got scared and were like, we need to book her because I'm telling you, twenty twenty two was my best year. That's awesome. Yeah, So I mean, now you know, twenty twenty three might be in the crapper, but who knows. We'll see what happens. But you know, excited for any possible opportunities that come up. And you know, maybe you and I can stir up some stuff together, so we'll see what happens. Oh, I like to stir.
You have a big one coming up too, we'll talk. We can talk about it now, we'll talk about it the end as well. But you have the big signed by superstars. It's coming up here in days because this will drop, this drops today as we're recording, and it'll drop later today. So really this weekend right Saturday night. Yeah, it's Saturday night, seven pm. It's signed by Superstars dot Com, you know, mallons. Mallons were accepted, pre orders were accepted. But you can buy something night of if you want
it to. We're doing a wheel where we're gonna play games and prizes are on the wheel. There's gonna be a lot of drinking. There's gonna be ring worn memorabilia, new eight by tens that you have never seen before, brand new. We took pictures at the arena, so there are new ones that no one has except for uh, you know, signed by Superstars. And it should be a good time right now. It starts at seven. I think last year we went till maybe twelve thirty quarter to
one something like that. I don't know. We'll see where the night takes us. But I'm excited and the fireballs waiting. Yeah, I'm ready. But this was a crude comment. I'm not going to read that on the side right under your picture, the naked one kind of kind of crap, is that? Yeah? I think Rob's trying to get us views. Yeah, so we'll see I do have a bathing suit. I might throw on a bikini if you will, So we'll see. How do you do how do you do the karaoke? Go last year? Oh my god, I sang. I think
I sang all night long. I did ASMR. I'll do it again. I'll do whatever. If somebody buys something, they can request the song and I'll sing it for them and it'll be good. And you know, people love this angelic voice of mine. One or the other. Look at this one. I like this graphic. This is a little more. It's very fancy, isn't it. Yes, I should be holding good glass of Champagnell. Yes, but it's gonna be fine.
I like virtuals. They are just the most laid back, easy work that you could ever do, honestly, and the interactions great and the wheel makes it so much better. Like I thought about this wheel idea last year and I was like, can you guys make a wheel that you can put different things on? And that? Like this year we're adding wedges and different prizes. It's just gonna be a lot of fun. So that's wonderful. Yeah, I
actually you might find this interesting. I was told by somebody this past week that because these virtuals are so like popular now and how how everybody's different on these kinds, like you're you're always the same, but like how people open up more that like video services are looking at the virtuals to purchase the rights to the story, like the stuff in like if you tell a story, they could sell the video to whomever and they clip it
and put up the video get out of here. I'm certain there's starting to become a market for that doing that. Oh good lord, God knows what I said last year, because by the end of the night I was lit and I signed one of the outputs that I signed, I forgot to sign mining to it to Rob had to come to my house. I remember this. I was just going And then one of the very nice thing in during the broadcast sent over like five boxes of pizza, brownies, coke,
like they because they're like, are you guys hungry? We're like, oh yeah, we're so hungry. Sent us a bunch of pizzas, and I was sweet. But he's got great he's great customers over there by signed by superstars, really good, really good setup. I'm excited. Yes, yeah, Betty'll be with me. Of course, my Robin to my batman, your rider or die my barney to my friend. Yeah, my rider died, so it'll be a good time. So if you have nothing to do and you're listening to this and your home,
please tune in and let me entertain you. I would love to. Will this be one of the eight by Tens? Yes, but in a bigger version you'll actually see the whole mural, got it? Okay? Yeah, just somebody posting this and I was like, oh, that's actually a really good shot. That's a wonderful picture. That's in the men's bathroom over at this We have about five more minutes. Five minutes. It's tarty ladies, a couple of minutes later than supposed to pop. On back to Christmas if I can. I went to
church Christmas Eve. I thought about church and did not go terrible. Okay, did you have any problems in the parking lot this year? I did not know. I actually got a great spot and backed in, which I hate to do. I hate backing into spot me too, first time, like a glove, right in and went there. It was the loudest, the most distracting service I have ever been to in my life. Babies, every baby in the county was in that church. Nice. It was people and it
was funny too. And I don't know if you know last time you went to church, if they if they said something like this, but they did like these preambles multiple times about non Catholics being in the service and making sure they don't come up for communion. Oh stop it. It was twice and I couldn't and it was like long drawn out like please, you know, respect the Catholic you know, way blah blah blah. And I was like, I've never heard that at a church service. But the babies,
Holy shit, I don't like that. Every it was weird. Everybody should be welcome to worship God. And I mean, I know Catholicism, man, is that there's too many rules. There's so many rules. You know. I still am on the fence about it, and I'm adamant about getting my kids their sacraments, and I still didn't do it this year because we're like, oh, should we call the priest, Yeah, we should call the priest, and then you know, August became September, September became October, and then I was like, oh,
should we just call them? Like at the end of next summer and then we'll just because CCD is a whole year thing, you have to do it from September, and so by the time we got around to it, it was too late. And then I said, if they go to CCD and they don't let them get their services this year, I'm going to be pretty pissed off, like the sacraments. So I figure, Okay, I'll try to get it done next year. But I don't know. I'm
on the fence about Catholicism anymore. Like I want to worship somewhere and I want to I want to do something, but I don't know. I don't know. I mean, do you, as a Catholic, do you believe in everything? Because I don't. I guess I just kind of do what they they say. They weren't insane, no, Like they weren't like saying anything negative,
like you know, you're not welcome here. They were saying you are welcome, but just don't think about coming up for communion because it's not your saying stay where you are, and I'll tell you what. Like our whole entire pew when we got up for communion, everybody sat, yeah, so they are welcoming. But I follow it as much as I can. When they change, like the prayers around they I don't know any of the periers. I don't know any of them anymore. No, I and you go to
church regularly, don't you regularly? Compared to others? We go a little bit more off, but not a lot. Let me ask you a question. If you miss a week or two and then you go back, do you receive communion without going to confirmation? Yes? Wrong? Yeah, I know, I know, But I mean what am I going to do? You should not go to communion? Well, if you are a practicing Catholic and following everything you you, that's it. That's you're committing a sin in their eyes. Well, I'm
sinning like a mofo because it's never never. I haven't been to any kind of confession, probably since Catholic confirmation eighth grade. Maybe I got I got a sinful body from top to bottom. I got a body of sin. I'm dripping in sin right about now. Oh, you're terrible. I wouldn't even go to church if I were you. You're you're breaking all the laws. That's a great tag line for a for a wrestler. I'm dripping in sin from baby, that's a shirt. A shirt I think of
the pwts put that from my name, Where's Where's sinister? Minister? That sounds like something that could be. I just saw him give me a big, big smooch. Did he have an eyebrows curled? Yeah? They were I think so. But he was coming we were waiting Grilla and he was coming through, and he was like sweaty from being out there, and I was just kept ready to walk out your guests right on, all the sweat. I took it all in. Give it to me. I love it. What you know
you got. You got a chance to watch the pay per view after we watched the match on Patreon last week, I did, what'd you think of the entire show? Was there any match that you didn't see that you were like, Oh I wish I stayed for that, or oh my that wasn't I didn't see that when I was when it was happening. No. I laughed at what Raven did? He He is morphing into Gabe kaplan. Okay, what did he do? Let me let me elaborate. He did a thing where there was a four way right and it
was all indie guys. I didn't know any of them, just gonna be honest. Then they announced Raven. So he comes out and he does his signature thing right, and he gets his chair and he sits at the top of the ramp. Never walks in it, never comes to the ring, never walks in the ramb. He just sits there and he's watching the matches right. Then, when the matches are done one by one, the kids walk by them, the guys walk by them, and he critiques them and he rates them one a scale from zero to ten.
But he does stand up in the middle of it and he sounds like freaking Gabe Kaplan when he was a welcome back odder. Really it's hilarious. He's like, eh, I liked your ring jacket, but you were kind of the shits out there thumbs down. I give you a four doing this during the match. No, at the end of the match, each guy walks by him to go to the dressing room. Okay, so as we're going through the curtain, he stops them because he's right there. As soon as you come out of Gorilla, there's the ramp.
He sits at the top of the ramp and he's but he's doing this for the crowd. Yes, Oh, that's so weird. That's what he did. That was his contribution to the show. And it was hilarious. And I watch you, I go he's morphing into Gabe Kaplan like it was so welcome by hilarious. Was there anything that you felt? Did you feel bad for any of those I felt there for all of us because there were no ring steps and the way we all got in the ring, you could tell we were old as hell. Are you
old or are you a veteran? You're grizzled, grizzled old veteran. Yeah, grizzled old. Bet all right, Well, our guest has decided to join us. Now, our guest is a big wrestling fan, but I don't think that he ever expected to hear Raven compare to Gabe Kaplan before he came on the airy. Do you know who Raven is? Okay? So we did a big I don't know if you're an ecwre okay perfect.
So we did a big reunion show a couple of weekends ago at the Arena and I was telling Chad while I was there, Raven did a thing where he just comes down and he sits at the top of the ramp and he's watching this four way that's going on with these indie guys. But after the match is over, each guy has to walk by Raven and he critiques them. And this was Raven's contribution. But he did stand up. It was kind of like a stand up and I've seen the stand up. I said, he's morphing into Gabe Kaplan.
He sounds like Gabe Kaplan and he was just doing one liners like he would do and welcome back on her and it was hilarious. I had the pleasure of bringing Raven to our club here in Rochester and I had the honor of playing the their drum during one of his sets. There's a there's a picture of it on my Instagram. I was on the stage behind him his entire set, just going bo, what's he funny? It was a great night, Fran say, it was a great night. So we cannot confirm nor deny about his ability to
tell jokes and be funny. He could tell them, okay, the delivery. I think that Raven is a funny, quirky guy. Yes, and it's a it's a very bizarre show, okay, like because you don't know what you're gonna expect, like you know, I've seen a lot of wrestlers do like more from the world of stand up or do one man shows, and Raven's is the closest to just trying to do a stand up act, apart from like Dolf Ziggler, because
Raven is just joke joke, joke joke, exactly like you said. Okay, but if you're not expecting that and you're like a wrestling fan, I don't think a lot of people give him the chance he needs to get behind what he does. So like it's it's different, it's a different style that I don't think everybody's ready for. I just sat there. I was laughing my ass off because I didn't I
think I left before this debacle happened. So I was just watching it back when I got home, and I'm just saying to myself, well, what a gig you didn't You don't even walk to the ring. You just sit there on a on a folding chair and you tell people they suck or you hit on their valets. It was great, it was it was a good time. I would love to book him to do a comedy show if he just sits there at the side of the stage waits for the comics to come off and tell
he just did that. I mean, he'll do it. I'm sure he'll do it for a payday, why not. But enough about him, Let's talk about you. Yeah, welcome. Let me introduce you guys before you get going. Vinnie. This is the Queen of Extreme, Queen of Extreme. This is Vinnie Paulino, who I had just connected to through our great friend Hughesy. But also I listened to Vinnie on who were these podcasts? Which is a great show that hughs he talked about every time he comes on the
air with us, talk about all this stuff. I had to get vide on with us because Vinnie he's a great personality. I think he fits in well with eyes up here. Well, I'm honestly honored to be here. When Chad sent me the message yesterday inviting me on, I was shocked, and I spent the last twenty four hours thinking about how I could build like a time machine and go back and just give seventeen year old me a high five, like I just thought to be like
you did it, Butterball, way to go. Welcome to my world. It's pretty great. I'm glad to be here. Well, first of all, how was your holiday? Do you celebrate? Do we do Christmas in your household? Oh? Absolutely? Was it a good one. My wife and I have the best Christmas every year because we alternate. Her family's from Alabama and we live up in New York, so every year we alternate, we go down there. We're up here. The Christmas in New York is the best. Nothing against her family,
but we just stay home. We don't deal with anybody else. There's no kids in my house. The booze is flowing, watching movies. We're having a great time. Yeah, Christmas rules a buy house. Nice. Okay, Well, I'm glad you had a good holiday, your majesty, Mine was nice. I do have children, but you know, booze can flow if we wanted it to, just doesn't flow as much as probably yours does because I do have to take care of
other human beings. You know. The nice thing about kids I hear is that you could have them bring it to you once they reach a certain age. Yeah. They I don't think my kids are going to mix cocktails for me, but they can go to the refrigerator and grab a can or you know, a Seltzer or something like that. So yeah, they're there's a great thing. You get to watch them grow. I do. I love my children, but yeah, they're good kids. But again, enough about everybody else.
I want to discuss you all right, So you have a lot of stuff going on. Huge put you over big time, like you're the best things in Slice Bride, I said, well, I have to meet this guy because I don't know. I don't really know he's wrong, but I thank him. I think him Slice Bread is pretty good. I want to hear about your comedy club first. Okay, I do not own a comedy club. A lot of people think I do. I just have a lot of pride in my workplace. I worked for comedy at the
Carlson Yes in Rochester, New York. It's an amazing stand up club. It's one of the best in the country. We have. We get acts that don't really play clubs that come and do our club because they like it so much. So it's a weird, out of the way place in Rochester, New York. But it's like working in Disneyland if you love stand up comedy. I love Disney Love. I recently just went to it might have been my first ever comedy show. It was Sebastian Maniscalpo. Yes, yes,
I saw him at Borgata. Yeah. I was gonna say it would have to be at a pretty big venue. That guy is killing it. Yeah, he was really funny. I enjoyed it. And I said to my girlfriend, because you know, every two or three months we have a girl's night out, and I said, I kind of dig stand up, Like I've watched a million of them on like specials, but I've never been there in person. Really, You've never gone to like a club just to go. No,
never did. And Borgot has sent me the tickets for free because like some of these prices were like five hundred and fifty dollars and I was like, no offense. He's very funny, but I don't think I'd spend five fifty on a ticket. But he was worth it was worth going. He was really funny. Yeah, he is one of those guys who studied his craft for years and
years and found his voice. And he's one of those guys like he's very authentic, Like when you watch et Cetric, this is him, this is the guy, and it's it's a really magical thing the way it kind of clicked because, like you said, five hundred and fifty dollars tickets. Yeah, how I heard of that is for a stand up
comedian to be able to charge it? Is that outreageous for stand up call I mean, you know, we work at a great club and we have amazing acts coming through, like national headliners, and we charged twenty bucks, twenty five bucks. It counted twenty dollars night out right there. I think I think, maybe get away from the Bogata and go check out your local stand up club, Franccene, you might dig it, I'm sure. Well, like I said, the tickets were free, and I just said, oh, let's give it
a try, you know. But I definitely would look into it in the future because it was a good time. I liked it. It was fun. I can't remember the opening act, but he was funny. But Sebastian was really well.
We were supposed to go down to Jim Florentine at the Borgatta during COVID, but I remember the show got canceled like two times rights right, so when we have Flarin Yeah, yeah, we had Jim on the show and we were saying, you know, next time you come to Borgata, maybe we can come see you, and he says, oh, yeah, I'll take care of that, and then COVID hit and we didn't get the hit twice the two times he was supposed to be there, Yeah, getting delayed. So I
loved Jim. He's one of my dear friends. I just did a couple of shows with him about two months ago. We just were up in Albany and in Syracuse. So when you do your stand up, what I noticed, like Sebastian was talking a lot about his kids, his wife. It was family, you know, the jokes were family. What is your stick? What do you talk about in your stand up? Well, I'm pretty much whipped. I talk about how much better of a person my wife is than me a lot. I do that a lot. Okay, she
is because she legitimately is. So I don't mind making fun of myself. I'm a big target of a lot of my jokes. It just makes life easier because when you're just teasing and laughing about yourself, you know, people get on board with that and it's pretty easy. But mainly I don't really do a ton of observational stuff. But I've been working on not so much. Like I'm
not don't think of George Carlin. But I'm trying to get a little bit more socially conscious that I talk about not in like a super PC way, but I have a lot of thoughts and I'm trying to figure out how to go from being super just about like story time, this is what happened to me my wife. Like that's why I like Sebastian because we do have a similar style. We both like to tell stories. So I'm trying to figure out how to like make my my thoughts bigger on stage. Is that a weird thing
to say? No, it's not weird. Do you ever experience like telling a story and it's kind of like a negative story but it's so funny that you have to tell it and you might offend either your wife or a family member? Like do you ever go into that darkness and uh, like you know give away secrets and well you can. But here here's the great thing. I'm worse.
I'll make up shit about you. Oh okay, no, I mean not necessarily, but like you know, the thing is with Kawedy, like you have a lot of poetic license when you tell a story, so you can think soud worse. The baby it really was, So I may be guilty of that. Yeah, I might be guilty of pepper eat things up a bit, right. Okay, So so the comedy store, you do you like, do you perform? Do you open for other acts? Like? What is what is the lineup that you usually have there? Well, I want to go
to one of these things. Well, a general if you went to a comedy show, which you're going to see is probably a host. Then you'll see a middle act, and then you'll see your headliner. Uh. That's generally how they do it. So you probably see about three performers in a show. I'm usually I could do only all three of them. I mean sometimes I headline not as much. I'm no Jim Florentine, but you know, I like to. Uh, I'm generally the middle guy most of the time. Okay,
I understand. Yeah, I'm a mid carter. That's a that's a great way to assess yourself, as if you're a self professed mid carter, then you you're already on the right track. But oh, but I'm a hell of a worker. I'm all worker. You know, current drugs, Benny, what do you see similarities between the comedy world and the wrestling world. Oh man h. There's a lot of intangible personality stuff
I think is a big part of it. You're trying to get over in the same way like when you walk out onto a stage, you have to be bigger than life, Like you kind of have to be bigger than the audience, and you have to know how to present that to get anybody to pay attention to anything. You have to say, like anybody could walk up and
talk into a microphone. It's how you present. And I think it's the same thing that you learn like when like I'm good friends with a lot of wrestlers and they tell me it's like over time you learn how to hold yourself and how to get that intangible what's the word I'm looking for, charismatic the charisma that you need to be able to get people to look at you and say, I want to see what this person's about to do like that. There's a lot of that
that's similar. It's a similar energy, I feel like. And then also you have to have to really get somewhere. You have to have some like skill trip up. I feel like like with myself, not the most confident person in real life, but when I would walk through the curtain, I would metamorphose myself in no one could touch me. I am the most brilliant, the most attractive, the most wonderful, Like it's it's it's you're playing a character. It's a transformation.
And then when I would go back through the curtain, I'd be like, was that okay? I don't know that. I know you know, and I'm assuming it's the same way for you guys. You know that is every stand up comedy green room. Ever, how did I do that joke? What do you think of that joke? What? How do you like? If I were a stand up performer and I bombed a joke, I feel like I would cry, why how do you I don't know. I know it's part of the I know it's part of your whole thing.
How do you recover? Like I always watch these shows and like most of them are comedians that are, you know, well known and established. But I've seen somewhere it just wasn't funny and they're getting hackled, and I'm like, I would I would literally die. I would know about that. I would never know what it's like to bomb. Probably okay, but what is your advice, Like, what if I'm saying something and I bomb. What would you tell, like a new comedian, like, how do you how do you handle
that when you're on stage? Well, anybody who you you would pay to see, you know, pay to see, doesn't want to bomb, and they've probably rehearsed their set and worked on their set for a very long time to get it to the point where they could perform it somewhere professionally. And when you're in that scenario and something you say bombs, you have to own it and you have to have something to follow it. And generally it's like, well, there goes that joke or just something anything you could
do just to own that you screwed up. It kind of ingratiates yourself to the audience because they go, well, at least he knows he sucked. The worst thing you could do is stick your head down and just keep telling jokes. That's what it gets weird off. So I guess my advice would be is just owed it immediately and have a sense of humor about it. Or yeah, you probably are going to get nobody's gonna laugh at you the rest of your set. Yeah, oh my god, it's not even that you would never use it again.
It's that you can, you know, polish it, you could fix it. Or maybe one night it's a joke that normally works and you go to deliver it and it comes out wrong. Maybe it's the inflection, Maybe it's how you set up the other joke. Because like every time you perform, you want it to feel organic. You want to go out there and do stand up so it feels like you're just talking to the people that are in that room that night or that arena for Sebastian. You want to make it feel like like that you're
presented to you folks. So if i do something that's really horrible and I'm standing in a room with like one hundred people, a hundred people just judge me all at once, and I need to like own that shit because because it's really easy to turn off your attention span with SOA does something terrible unless you're like me or carl On, who are these podcasts that we just go, oh,
let's just sky Bob that we get really excited. Oh okay, you know what it's like though, I want to compare it to wrestling, so it's like you're recovering from a joke that bomb is the same way. Maybe you guys miss a spot and you have to either find a way to cover it up or get back to where you needed to be to make the next thing happen. You guys have to be quick on your feet. And that's an awesome similarity I think between the wrestling world and the comedy world. You guys got to be smart
and you got to be able to adapt quickly. I haven't thought of it that way, Chad, You're right because you know the reality is just like with wrestling, you know the next spot is coming up, you gotta get ready for it, right, that's true. How often do you guys run at your comedy club? Well? I our club runs every weekend, okay, yeah, we're open all year, and I travel and go wherever I need to go to perform, so you know, I'm on the road sometimes sometimes i'm here.
I love comedy. I'll go wherever they need me. Awesome. Let's talk about your podcast because you have a couple of them. You're on a couple of different ones, right, Well, I'm a part of who are these podcasts? It's actually my friend Carl's show. Okay. Carl is the host of that and he brings me. He has a different guest host every week, so I'm on all the time. I'm on quite a bit. But there's a lot of us that do that show. But Carl and I do a show together. Do you like true crime? Francene? Are you
a true crime fan? So Ever? Since I became a mother, I don't watch anything to do with death, okay, because it freaks me. So I can't watch horror movies anymore. I can't watch the news because if I hear about a shooting or like somebody died, I freak out. So okay, no, okay, but I would listen because of you. I wouldn't. I wouldn't listen, fran Scene. I do a show called The Creep Off, And after hearing that out of your mouth, never listen to it, promised me. Now, you'll never listen
to it? What is't? What is it? Tell me? Okay? Well, I kind of hate true crime? Okay, I kind of hate it. I hate the way true crime shows. You know, how do I wet this? They take advantage of, like the situations. If you ever listen to Nancy Grace's show, like every week it's about like some ladies kids are missing it and presumed dead, and she has the lots like, so, what's in lock? Having children missing? Are they? Does that feel bad? Your heart must be breaking right now. It's
breaking right now, isn't it? Tell me how hard it hurts? She just tries to get these people to cry, and that's like terrible, and they just take advantage of true crime. Now my show, as a comediant, I came up with the most ridiculous way to present true crime that one possibly could was my idea for this show. So Carl and I every week have a contest our listeners pick a category. This last episode we recorded yesterday was creep of the Year twenty twenty two, so we had to yeah,
creep of the year. We each work like reverse lawyers, so like we'll say my guy was the creepiest person to twenty twenty two that I'll tell you everything that he did, and then Carl will present his creep and tell you what they did, and we argue over whose person is worse, and then we let the internet vote decide who wins, and then we have this, We have a terrible wheel of consequences. First person of five wins, loser has to spin the wheel, and that's not fun.
So we decided to take true crime and make it really kind of silly. So waite, if you spin the wheel, is it like a daror thing like you have to do something bad? Oh? Yeah, it's not fun. I just lost the other time you have to spin the wheel, did you spin it? Well, I don't have to spend the wheel yet because I'm still in the lead. The last time I spun the wheel, I had to get a job at a fast food restaurant and work a shift. Oh Jesus, yeah exactly. And this is all being filmed.
Oh yeah, we did all sorts of stuff like that. I had to jump into I had to do the polar plunge last year. I had to jump into the lake in the middle of winter. I would love this show. But if you don't like, if you can't at Murder of Children, I wouldn't recommend listening. Well I can. I listen towards the end where it's not where that's what it's the worst. That's when it gets the worst. I want to see you jumping into the into the minus twenty degree. I will send you the I will send
you some footage from that. Yeah, I would. I followed you back by the way, on Twitter, So yeah, who followed me? I did, Oh, that's pretty exclusive club that that time of shade. I need that time shape. Who followed me? So I said, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna push that little follow back button and now we're like friends, Vinny a day, we are friends. So all right, So that's the one podcast. What's the other one about? Well, I do a show called The Comedy at the Carlson Cast.
That's I'm actually in my studio right now inside of the club. Every week, the headliners that come through our club, they come into my studio and we do an interview kind of about where they're at, what they're working on their material. You know, where they've been, what they're doing, and it's a lot of fun. I have had some amazing people. I never thought a million years I would have come and sit on the couch and just chat with me. I was pulling up one of your videos.
Oh yeah, I just I've had I'm trying to go down this list because it's it's really crazy. I had Gilbert Godfred on the show multiple times. Oh what a catch that was. Yeah, I mean god, I had Marlon Wayans on. I've had Colin Quinn just amazing corush On Quinn. When I was a kid, I loved him on remote control. Next time I see him, I'm going to tell him that who I am. But I mean, I I was, oh is this oh man? That was a weird weekend. So that was a weekend we had, uh that Skippy
price from Family Ties. I was just it was that's great. Do you meet all these people just through the comedy scene or do you stalk them on social media? Comedy scene? Like, I mean, the great thing about my show is I don't have to do any of the booking, the club books. They're they're headliners, and it's like, hey, listen, this is part of the press tour. It's a pretty amazing opportunity
for me because like they'll go do morning television. They'll go do like a morning show, then they'll go do some radio, and then they come on the end of their day at my podcast and we sit down and have a cup of coffee. There's Michael ian Black, Okay, so yeah, we just have a silly old time. That's great. Yeah. So it's a cool show that's called The Carlson Cast. You can find it anywhere. Yeah, the Carlson cast interesting. I hope maybe if we get booked somewhere in New York.
I haven't been the Rochester there since ECW. That's one that doesn't really wrestling's not really a running rampant through Rochester. The are you are? You? Are you mad? We love wrestling in Rochester. We got to own conventions in Rochester. That's what I'm saying. Well, might love it, but there's not much going on. I could tell you things that I've put on here that we've sold out, that we're just geared towards wrestling fans. We'll have a bigger conversation afterwards. Well,
we'll do lots of fun stuff. Twenty twenty three is my ear, Finny. You know, I'm going on tour and I'm doing lots of things. So you can talk to the right fella. Maybe Rochester might be on my my list of places to visit. Know how to pick them. Yeah, we don't talk about where I'm located because some of these fans are a little crazy, and so are you.
Like East coast, West coast? Where what are the coordinates, address frames, address phone number, last week social I can talk to you later about all that, don't we don't really put that out here on the on the podcast, I assumed, Yeah, yeah, I've had people show up at
my door before and it wasn't fun. You know. I've often thought because over the last few years, I kind of I got to know Conrad Thompson a little bit, so He's invited me to some stuff, and I've gone to some of those conventions and I've hung out and I just kind of watched. You have a real interested you. You have to have it kind of weird. It's got to be really off putting for you, isn't it. Let's put it this way. I did Russell Caid in November.
Is that the one in South Carolina, North Carolina, North Carolina, Winston Salem. And one of the tweets that was put out morning of was a list of things that the fans needed to do in order to attend, and one of them was where deodorant? Hey vital I was at Flair's last match, and if I was writing the rules, I would have said walk through a car wash would have been my rule before you got it there. I
don't The fans are so very sweet. I love everybody comes out to these things, but I don't understand how you don't shower or wear deodorant or just fresh all the things like take over death. And it's especially because like you're paying money to go meet people that you like, admired and that you want to meet, and you're like, they don't care. When when when I get a guy who smells good, I tell them, oh my god, you smell amazing. I'm not used to it. That's my rule.
I always try to smell good, smell. I'm a big guy. I'm a big guy, and like, that's my biggest fear is the stink. I don't want to ever smell bad. Yeah, it would be the worst. Well, it's people judge me enough. I don't need that's smelly. To the adjectives who came on, it wasn't Vince Brusso, Yeah said it. He says to me, how do you put your arms around the smelly marks? That was it, Vince. They're very sweet, they're good guys. Some of them are high not so good. What are
you gonna do? Okay, let's let's break this up. He's like, because now I need to know, and I'm sorry to put you on the hot seat on your own show, but I do an interview show myself. So I have a very naturally curious person. That's sure. What is the weirdest thing a fan has ever said to you at one of those conventions? What's the weirdest thing that just made you go, I need to take a step back away from you. And the fact that you have to
think this log frightens me. She's very good, though, Vinnie. She's very good with the fans. I mean she's she's one of the best, i'd say, and being able to kind of absorb it. So this, yeah, this is pretty interesting. I know how to wrangle people like I can shuffle people around. And I remember one time. This wasn't words, this was this was a guy of this is I'm not making fun. Okay, I'm not making fun. I'll do it.
I'll make the thing. I came over to the to the table and he had what would you call it, like a gimp arm or like a dead arm, A good the arm was just hanging there. Okay, I'm not going to make fun anymore. No, I don't make fun of it. I don't make fun of people. God bless them. You know. I felt bad for him, so I was nice, like I am to everybody else, and he says, can
we take a picture? And I said absolutely, and I'm and I'm you know, I'm I'm not rubbing his back, but I had my hand on his shoulder and I'm just like, okay, take the picture. His good arm proceeded to slide down my body and cut my ass cheek and swing me, and I said uh. And of course my handler was on the phone texting and playing a
game or something, so they didn't catch that. So this guy that I felt really bad for proceeded to grope me, and there was no one around to help me, so I grabbed his good arm and I kind of twisted it that we got the money first, which was great he got you should charge more for the as squeeze for it. I think. I just I felt so incredibly sorry for him, and then I hated his guts because I was just like, you don't do stuff like that. Like nowadays people will say, can I put my arm
around you? Is it okay? If I put my arm, Absolutely, you could put your arm around me as long as you stay above the hip. I'm good. Sure, you know, I just don't don't grab. But I was like, of all people, I didn't expect him to do something. Well, he clipped the He clipped the gimp arm off when he walked away, like he got around the corner and he hit the little button and the gimp arm came down. His other arm came back and got her again. And
then somebody brought me an egg plant as a present. Oh. I was like, what am I gonna do with this? And he said, oh, I went to the organic farmer's market. I thought of you, and I brought an eggplant. Did they not have flowers at this markets? Wow? That was Remember last last March at big event, the guy gave you, like the big piece of cake, Jerry, Jerry SAgs, looks over. He goes, I wouldn't eat that if I were you.
It was so he was from Japan and he had brought me perfume and this big giant piece of cake, and it looked delicious. But I don't. I won't eat food that strangers bring me because what if they need? Yes, well, why would anybody do? But this cake, Vinny, this cake looked really good. It looked like the real deal. I'm right there with her. It looked like the real deal. But god knows what it was made with. That's all we'll say about that cake. Yeah, I bet knobs ate it.
I didn't leave it. I think I put it under the table, so maybe somebody had taken it. But you know, you always get can I take you to dinner? And then I show them my wedding ring and I'm sorry, my husband doesn't let me eat too bad? You know. It's kind of that way. But I could that ever work if you were not married? Would that ever work? Would there ever be a somebody who bought a ticket as a fan to come meet you? I don't. I'm
was like, hey you dinner? No, but a black man did ask me if I ever had any black in me and what I want some? Oh, you know, I politely said, I'm married and thank you very much. That might have been the crudest thing somebody ever said. That is pretty crude. It was kind of crude. But you know, I'm glad to hear that that's like the worst of it, because like, I don't know, I've stood in those lides and I've been around those lides and it just looks
like a pirate chip is bording. They basically want to talk about angles what you did? And I met you do you remember me, and you'll look at them and you go, oh, no, you know I met you in nineteen ninety five. It was March twelfth. You had on that red sweater and I'm like, ah, I can't remember what I did yesterday. I can't remember ninety five. They just want to reminisce, and ninety percent of them are very sweet. So I guess I'm lucky. You know, not
too many creepers. They're out there. You know who you are creepers. But you know, I might have to do a creepiest wrestling fan episode of The creep Off. If you do, can I come on? Yes? Yes, of course you a crossover. Oh that'd be fun. Can we talk about the creepiest wrestling fan of all time? Well? Yeah, I mean I don't really know who it would be, but if we can find footage, we can comment on what we're watching. Right. Oh, we'll figure it out. Yeah,
don't you worry. I do by research. Let's do that. That would be okay. I'm in on that all day. Do you have anything coming up that we can plug Well, please check out The creep Off or the Carlson Cast. They're on Twitter at creep Off pod and at Carlson Cast. It'd be great. We'll keep you updating on what's going on with both shows, and follow would be amazing. We're constantly pumping out content and trying to do some interesting things. Do you have a YouTube channel? I do? Uh, they
both have YouTube channels as well. Okay, creep Off and the Carlson Cast both. I love it. Well, this was fun. It was great to meet you as well, Chad. Do you have any questions because I kind of told Chad in the beginning, I said, you know, you might have to chime in every once in a while, but I took over this whole interview. I'd like to sit back.
I like to let you do the talking now. I got to know Vinnie a little bit when we did the show with Hughsey, and uh, you know, I told him there, you know, I like all the other the stuff that who are these podcasts that creep Off? I mean, I'm I'm a big supporter, so I'm glad I could get everybody connected. That That's what I do. I unite and we'll be in Rochester this summer. I would love to Yeah, if we can, I mean, if if I ever get booked up in New York somewhere. We would
love to stop by the club and say hello. Do you hear that? Everybody? She's not in New York. No, I'm sorry, I'm Rochester. Hold on, let me check this off up here. I mean, I ever work, if I ever, because I think the closest we've gotten was Albany. Albany, Yep, that's a little further west from us. We're like the We're the northern part of New York. We're right under Lake, Ontario. I've been there. Oh yeah, okay, it used to run in Rochester. What was the building in Rochester that we ran?
I can't remember it, though, I mean it was almost I don't think you guys did the War Memorial. I think was it the warm O them we did the War Memorial? The Riverside Convention Center. Okay, but I believe we did the War Memorial before as well. I want to I know, w W E did the War Memorial? Ever? Did? It's the bigger arena. Yeah, it's a real big arena. Maybe there's a there has to be more than it was. Yeah,
the Riverside Convention Center or the Rochester Convention Center. The Rochester Convention Center Okay, those are the ones we but we're going back what thirty years. I haven't been there in forever. So if I can get up there, you know, we'll let you know. Maybe we can come hackle you one night, that would be. You could heckle me anytime you want to. You're welcome a comedy at the Carlson anytime. And if you want to come do a live podcast or something like that, please Chad knows how to get
a hold of me. You follow me on Twitter now so you can find me too. We can keep in touch and Had's friends now. Wonderful. Well, this was so great. Thank you for coming on my pleasure. Good luck with everything. I'm going to check you out your shows. Uh and maybe in the new year we can collab a little bit and do some fun stuff. Certainly my pleasure too. That's great, all right, Benny, will you Happy new year for you and good luck with everything. May all acquaintance
be forgotten. Oh cute, thank you, take care of Bennie. Happy news. Thank you. And there goes Vinnie Paulino. Soo cute. I told you just fun guy. He's a good guy. He seems like a fun like a fun guy to hang out with You know, we got to get back to Rochester. We can thank Husy for the connection, but we have to now get booked in Rochester. Yeah, Husy, if you're listening, book me in Rochester's well, I don't know if i'd want him negotiating Ireland at twelve o'clock
at night from the pub. He's got seventy eight super chats wire right, he's watching like you know, he talks about he loves Christmas and you know they start celebrating Christmas basically like the day after Halloween. This fuck guy is out at the pub every night in a new Christmas sweatshirt or T shirt or something. He has a lot of sweaters. Loving life and I love watching what he does. That's so great. You know what is life about. It's about having a good time, right, enjoying the people
that you're with, having fun, being happy. That's my resolution in twenty twenty thirty. I'm gonna I'm just going to enjoy my life more more. Well, we will, we will enjoy it, enjoy more. How about that? I love it? Let's do it? Sounds like we planned all right, Well, let's see what we got going on on Patreon. This week. We have anticipating your trip that is coming up. We have what's happening in Disney World in the year twenty twenty three. Have you have you started to look into
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just like with Vinnie here. You know, Vinny came on and all we know a podcast and comedian. Look how it goes off into another stratosphere of content. It's just fun. We're all friends here. Get it going. That's right. Well, you want to follow me that your friend? The Chad starts at Chad E and B on Twitter, at IB
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