The Sandman & Tyler Fullington

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talk about it. Well, we'll talk about this in the next uh, the next hour. Everybody's ready. Everybody's a lot of stuff. So I have two special guests that I've been trying to get on. Uh. They look ready together, chomping at the bit to go on right now, I want to introduce to you. He's already popping for me. It's the band man and his son Tyler. Hi, guys, how are you? Ty I want to start with you real quick. I got a flashback in my head. How old were you? Before I even get into this crazy angle?

Because it's still it's bad parenting. You let your little child in the marn doing all that stuff, and I have to say, hey, shitty parent, how old were you? I was about it was like in like ninety six. I was about six or seven years old. Okay, picture this. I love kids. I've always loved kids. I tried to be nice to you every single time I saw you, and I always got the shittiest look and I never put me over. You would never say hello to the I don't Tyler, how are you give me the stink?

And you would always walk away from me. I was in character. You gotta remember that, not in characters, not in the ring. This was behind the scenes, little jerk. I was always so nice to you. I thought you were the cutest little thing, and you would never give me the time of day. I thought that. I was like, I was always so nice to Tyler. He hates me. Yeah, I don't. I don't remember it like that. But well, I apologize if that's how it came across. Oh God, apology,

That's that's all. And then I found him as an adult and I find him very pleasing. So that's I just wanted to get that off my chest. My my feelings were hurt. What what do you remember? Uh? You know, being so young and being in that locker room, because I mean your family was always backstage, loring. Your mom was back there, Pumpkin was back there, was punkin jealous? Was she jealous? State that you were the star of the family? Do if she was? I was never told.

I don't know, Hock, did you Did she tell you? She showed it to me, never cared. Okay, what do you remember being that young? I don't know. Like you said, we were always we were always there at the show in the back, so I mean that's really kind of all I ever really know. But yeah, it was a good time, you know, just being around everybody. I mean it was crazy because like you said, I was only six seven years old, but it was a good time. I was always treated well by everybody typically and uh

step fancy. Yeah, I couldn't get over I don't know why did you're dead? Ever? Heal you if you messed up a spot? Never met honestly, I never maybe once or twice or whatever. But there was always so many people, Like my mom was right there. She was always he would get your Stevie would or the meaty or Nova or we are made sure. He was under direction at any time that we needed, right? Yeah? No, I I

first of all, I love the angle. I The other day was Father's Day and I was texting people Happy Father's Day, and Brian Myers, who I'm sure you know, he sent me a meme of you with Scottie. So I resent it the heck, but you got it right, I sent it to you. I love it. But being so young, did you even understand what was going on? Because I was in my twenties and I didn't know half the stuff that was happening at age six? Did you understand the concept that, you know, the impact that

you were making? Oh, that the impact I was made? Oh no, But I had just that's all I ever knew was going to shows my whole life. So I was just kind of going out there and doing what we've always kind of done. It wasn't really anything different than me. But I was like just so young and naive where I couldn't even think about, well, yeah, you don't realize, yo, you're a six year old kid growing up and you're on TV at this point in the

fucking roughest in the roughest wrestling federation. You know you know what I mean? Yeah, that doesn't even fathom in my head, right, did anybody ever say anything to you at school? Do you remember, like, did the other kids know they was staying up till two o'clock? True, I didn't know, but in the area, we were on it like sixth, six o'clock, and then we were on it like eight or something. In the Philly area, it was

always I don't remember that time. No, I mean they, I mean, they all knew that my dad was a wrestler, but I mean I don't think at the time they like knew like what I was doing. And you didn't go in there events, You didn't go in there and put yourself over your kindergarten class like what it was all this is the only thing I ever knew. So it wasn't like something big to me at the time.

I mean I put myself over more now than I did back then when I went to wrestling school, when I was going four nights a week, when I first started to he was at every single one of those, like he was real small, but he was in his mom's arms. So literally, growing up with it means growing up with it, yeah, because your whole I mean, I just remember your whole family always being in the back. You know, I love and that's why I had to say, a man, man, it's so great. Whose idea was it

to bring Tyler? Was it, Scottie? No, it's a great story. Listen to this. I know I remember, believe me. I'm stupid. I can't remember anything now, but this story you can't forget. We were wrestling at Tech the guy, remember the guy who had the Damien Stone, Damien whatever, and he had a federation up in my reading or something. I walk in Todd sitting next to him. All right, Tod Todd sitting next to him. I walk up. He's like, Heck,

I got this great idea. I've been talking to McCauley calking, and we're gonna try and bring him into your son. I swear to god. I looked him straight in the face. I said, boa we got an exact replica of him, my man outside right now. He's a lot cheaper too. Swear to god, dude, what a great story. The hell are you gonna give McCauley cl is a big wrestling mark. Though I know I wanted to bust up in his face. Laugh you know what I'm saying. But at that point

my career I wasn't over up yet. I think Tyler was way more over than McAuley would have been as your fake son. I had to fake someone to work nearly as much. No, I don't think so either. I just when when you said, uh, what was the exact line, like he's my daddy now, or said you attack as your father in the arena, it was just like, oh no, my brother just said and he goes and he ended it with and now I worship brave. Yeah, daddy, you're a drunk. Now I worship drunk. That's sweet, dude, because

that's all we needed to remember. The rowd was like oh yeah. It was like a collective gasp. And then you put your little arms out and I was like, look at them. Go just I don't understand why you're not doing the circuit with why so you start? Okay, let's so, let's let's talk about this. What happened with wrestling school? So, uh are you talking about in Florida? Yeah? So for us who don't know, Tyler was going to

be a wrestler. So I went down there. I went down to the school and then me and Hacker in the ring like the first day, like doing whatever. I ended up going. I ended up stepping wrong in the ring and like hyper stending my knee. And so from the very first day, from the very first day, I was like rehabbing like for months and months and month like basically up like six months. And it got to a point where like it was kind of messing with like my mentals at the time because I wasn't down

there doing like what I was doing. I had no friends, like, no family, just kind of like had messed with me, and it brought me to a point where I wasn't like really being myself. So I kind of had to make the decision, you know, come back up to Philly,

and you know, change Paths. Didn't step wrong. It was just when he went to go to lock up, and when you you plant your front foot, there's a little dip in the center of the ring, and the bottom was a little lower than what you would think it would be like your front foots it got to hit a little bit lower than your back foot is That's how was I got and ended up being extended. Okay, So so you're saying mental health wise, wasn't wasn't an ideal fit for you? Well, just at that point in time,

I mean because I never actually really got started. Like I got down there and was just you know, rehab, rehab, rehab, not doing anything, and just one thing led to another, and like it just kind of put me in a bad state of mind. So I kind of just had to change pass and come back and you know the rest of history. As they say, listen, if it wasn't it's not meant to be. That's what you have to

look at it, and you let a different path. But I still think that you should get eight x tens printed off as that six year old, seven year old little boy and do the conventions with us. Now, it works if we got me Peaches, Scottie and and him, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, definitely, I think it would work with just you two. It would be a big reunion. Yeah. We just tried teaches by herself well like Eric Simms higher and she did no business business,

you know what I mean. She's awesome though, I love I love thee. Yeah, but she was going early, you know what I mean? Yeah, No, I know, I know, I just feel like there's still liked what she did. She was there for all the raven stuff. So came back, which is a classic, the Courtney Love look that she posted for a while. You know, I just feel like it's marketable to bring. I mean, look at him now,

he's in his thirties. And the people that watch like Peacock or what used to be the WWE network or whatever. There's a whole new generation sceans that are watching our stuff from the nineties, so they're seeing your angle for like the first time. You know, it's the best When like a ten year old kid comes up to me and he's like, oh my god, you're my favorite. I'm like, say, you're watching me on the ww network, right, That's what it is. It's a wholy generation of fans, you know.

I know I love being on that on that network. It can't keep me alive forever, exactly. I need to start seeing some royalty. Oh please, you'll never see forget that. How you signed away your life with those first contracts. Get out of here. No leverage it all. You know, like you make a point oh one seven of a penny on a doll How bad they are your first contract. That's another penny I didn't have before. Hey, he's the optimist and you're the pessimist of the family, and me

that you're yang. I still say there's money in this kid. I think we can make some money off of Tidler, I really do. I think you can get an action figure as that seven year old kid in the Raven shirt with the with the pose like that, with the little arms out. I think it would be great. That's a great idea. I'm telling you. You know me, Hack,

I'm working everybody. I know what I'm talking about. But it's funny because, like Shane and I were talking the other day, a little kid came up to the table and was like, can I just say that your angle with Taz was epic? And he was like, you know, and she that kid didn't know what he was talking about. Well, and Shank goes, how old are you? Take goes, I'm ten. And he goes, well, where did you see this? And he goes, I watched Peacock, you know. And it's like

this whole new generation of hands. So people are seeing you for like the first time, right, and there's something becoming future wrestlers probably or or the kids that I want to go up and being wrestling because I tell them not you know what I'm saying, Yeah, but I tell them not to when a wrestler comes up to me and says that I was his favorite wrestler growing up. You know what I mean, Well, that doesn't happen. I'm old. And then I said that that, I'm like, all right, cool,

that happened like two times hacking you know it. But that's okay, Well it hasn't happened yet. I'm just saying I a mighty dreamed it. I just think that there's it's it's you're marketable. I think that people like real collectors, they want everybody's autograph. And I think if you got pictures printed up as that seven year old kid, I think you'd sell the picture. I really do to make more money. There's no reason not to try it, right. I guess the arena show is the one to do

with the icons. That's right. You should do the icons with your dad. That's the one the one that seven In general, I don't know, I'm in one on like one of the Carolinas. Uh that weekend something. I just found out. You're with me. Where did you know that the gathering? Would you know if you're hand from I'm not going to the gathering. You're blistered at the gathering and carry. I know, but I told I work with Pond and I'm like, no, dude, I have way too

much good time. Last time I was. Last year, I was there, I stole the guy who was running the place's golf car and I had it for hours, some mushrooms as soon as I got there. So you're not doing it. No, I'm not doing that gathering. I told him, no way this year. Oh I'm doing it. You're not going to go to the ring until three a m. I'm not doing no. No, you're thinking of the Juggalos thing. Well, that's called the gathering. No, this is a different gathering.

Well why would they call the gathering if the Jugglers have their gathering. I don't know. You're you're booked on August seventh at the gathering. It's not the Juggalers. And you go show you're flying the Carolina too. Yeah, I believe we won the same flight. I don't know. I we'll check later. We were in two weeks, dude. I am so scared that we are going to get shocked at the airport or something. It is so good right now. Do we have a do we have a graphic for that?

I can get it. Hey, so, uh, what for our appearances? We plug things on this show? Might not? Yeah, so everybody can come and see us at the airport. We are going to be like nobody, We're so over you don't even understand. We're going to be in Niles, Ohio and Eerie p a oh with Anthony, Right, I don't know with who. No, it's probably not anyway, Yes, I think it is at d right, Tyler booked on that loop with us. Time you want to call, I'll have

to check my schedule. Okay, I'll try to get you both. No, we got softball playoffs. Oh yeah, yeah, there we go. We're going to be at the Retro Toy Market in Niles, Ohio from ten am to fourth them on July twenty third, to meet and greet. Oh I'm sorry, wait, wait, go back? Why are there are two times on there? We got two events that day. No, it says from ten to four,

but then it says eleven to three. So I think the show goes from ten to four at the Retro Toy Market and it says the meet and greet is eleven to three. What's the difference, obviously, I can. I think it's a case of giving a little too much information and clouding up the graphic. I can't even understand what he's saying. He's this is this is the other one. Tell your father to come inside, please, he got too far out of range. This is the other plan. I

can't understand them all right. And then the same day we jump in the car and we go to Eerie, PA for a meet and greet from six to eight. But those other that other timeframe doesn't make sense at all to fly Friday night. Yeah, we don't get into freaking like eleven o'clock or something. I know. I'm glad we're doing a Friday night, dude, Friday? Is this that an indie show? The night one? Oh? What is this? Hacker?

We going to an indie show? Do you know? Because it's like it says action toy man up in the corner. But sixteen eight that's pretty late for a meet and greet at a shop. I don't know anything, Okay, Hacky, he love me and I can't hear here. I tell him I can't here. Yeah, I don't know what the what you can be a moron? Love this family so much? I can't hack Can you hear me? Yeah? You get here in the background. Yeah, I gotta fix it for you, moron.

Hold on, This is the best interview I've ever conducted in my life. This is good, Yeah, very good. It's behind the scenes. It's your technical skills, hacks, condo a different Oh wow, in stereo. There we go, he's muted, he's un mute. It all right, There we go, There we go, There we go. Hat hat listen, are we at a indie show in eerie p a. Oh lord, I think he's gotta I think he has to bounce out and come back in. I think his connection got messed up when he went outside. Why can't he just

sit next to Tyler? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Make it these all right. I'm going about you out to make it easier. Just talk to Tyler. We're just gonna talk to you for a while. So do you watch watching Are you watching current wrestling these days? Uh? Yeah, I am uh not. Not a lot of uh w W A a lot of a W Moore. But what's your opinion? I can't stand roll or anything anymore. It's the same. I don't know my opinion. It's like the same show over and over again. It's pretty much the same thing.

I can't times you're going to see Brocken what. Yeah, it's I don't know what. Yeah, it's the same thing over and over again. For like me, at least a now a w is a little bit you know, spot spots, spots, spots, spots, spots, spots, stuff. So yeah, but it's a little it's different. It's a little bit more entertaining for in my opinion. But have you have you been watching keeping up at all? I don't.

I keep up on Twitter. So if like my friends are working, I'll be sure to watch a spot that they're in, but I won't sit there I used to do. I used to do Twitch and like watch the whole two hours, and I just found myself like just ignoring the product and just reading my chat because I just I can't get into it anymore. Like I used to be such a fan of just wrestling in general, and now to chore for me to sit there for hours

and watch it. Well, acts very similar and that like he he doesn't he'll watch if like I'm watching or something like that, but he doesn't really stay up with It's just he's I don't know. You can ask him what do you think current product? You iner? You out did he mute himself again? I'm gonna kill your father, I swear. I don't know. I can't now, I can't figure it out. Oh yeah, and nobody sells a thing on which product both? It doesn't matter. Yeah, I know.

I I just if my friends are on. Like I said, I like to watch it and support what they're doing, but to see three hours at a time, I just can't do it right now. You're a good half. But I can hear us, but we can hear them. Look at his face, I can't. This interview is just going the ship? Why why does this always happen to me? Can you? He can't sit down? I think he has add that in a dark look, I just see a silhouette.

Guess the wrestler. Who is it? Oh well, anyway, Tyler, I I really feel like there's a market for you. I really do. And I feel like if they brought you back with your dad, you can make some extra money on the side. What do you think, Chad? I agree, No, I think absolutely, Especially at that Icon's Arena show they do what three four of them a year? I think that's the spots. Yeah, I'm sure Robal will let you come. You should just test the waters. Oh yeah, I definitely

I would definitely be in for that. But I just never even really thought about it, to be honest with you, until you just kind of really brought it up. Well, because I'm always like you actually been there with me. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'll go to them something, but not like it's not like you're recognizing like it's a different Dandie Bonta Ducci when he was on Partridge Family. Yeah. But if he's sitting at a table with his picture in front of him and it says Tyler Fullington, people are

gonna want his article. I'm telling you, I get the picture when you guys, hug come on. There's so many different shots you could use. Even when when he's got the cane and Tyler's there like this, that's perfect. That's money you're missing. You'd be sitting on a bootload of money. Tyler.

That face he's got when he's looking down. Come on, there's a there's a plenty of good pictures I've seen, like from here there, like somebody's where I'm like in front of Race Raven and he's like chained up to the cage, Like get in front of him with hack yeah, there's a bunch of stuff. I have to look through him. But you were adorable. You reminded me of Dennis the Menace. Yeah, you're not the first one to say no. And he was. My mom watches him and he was on the other day.

I said, what a cute little boy he was. You look just like him when you were a kid. You know, you should. You should have did some TV work besides our our generic show. But I digress. I feel like, get yourself to icons and try it and test it, and especially in Philly, I think you would make some money. Yes, uh hat. I think August seventh is like the next one. But I think that's the day you guys are already

booked for something else. I'm telling you his name is on the schedule for the gathering, and it's not the one from the Dougglers. It's the one from Marty Teammart. There look at looking how cute he is at silver right there? Look at oh my god age. But that was in nineteen thirty two, before flash photography, loo kill marketable. This picture is. I'm telling you, I don't know I would. I would try to get together and do one of these icons. I think there's one in December around Christmas time.

You should try to get on that one. Yeah right, yeah, I think. I think it's close by so you don't have to travel real far. And if it sucks, it sucks. But at least she tried it, and I don't think it's gonna suck. Not at the arena. Sure, yeah, I agree. Yeah, well, kids to get all this together and charge like fifty bucks for the photout, Well, if you want to bring the whole family into it, you can. But I see the time. Is he doing stuff still, Scotty? Yeah, he

does stuff here and there. I never see his name mentioned anywhere. I don't. The only thing I see is he'll put something up on Twitter every now and then. But I mean it's not like I see a bunch of stuff. But look at this. Look at this picture? Are you? Are you saying saying that's a picture right there and we got a winner. You look so mad, Tyler, That's right. I mean that was what I was told to. Really, that's how you used to look at me in the back.

Tell you. I mean, Hack was always like tell me he's like yo that whenever you're you know, around like because you don't know who's going to be walking in the back or when you're gonna run into somebody, like, yo, you gotta keep k fab kid like wow, yeah, I mean, but I'm like so I like took it like as the strictest rule possible, like, yo, I gotta be uh. Well, you were in character because that's the that's always the look right there that I got from you. Look. Look

how cute it was just like Dennis so cute. You look like your mom. Yeah, I know. That's a good thing, isn't it pure. There's a lot of great shots that we could especially on that leather a silver signature. Oh my gosh, you were miss and your calling. I'm telling you my mind is always working, even if it's not just for me. Like yes, your dad, I've given him such good advice. He never takes it. He could be a millionaire right now. But I'm always thinking of like

business opportunities, and I'm telling you this is marketable. He should have been a porn star to me or Tyler, Tyler, why why would you say that about your giving yourself a lot of credit for saying you to be a born star? Well, why would you say that about your child? You weirdo. You're always busted on each other. That's what we do. I'm lost anyway, I don't know why. What's that? He said? Yeah, I have no idea where that came from. That's the first TI I'm hearing it. It's weird. He's

so weird. Do you regret giving up the wrestling school now? Are you happy just being just a fan and just casually watching it when you want? I mean partially, but it's hard for me to say regret because I did what I thought was the most important thing for myself at the time, So I can't really say I really regret it, Like do I wish that things happened differently? Yeah, but regret it's probably not the word I would say

for it. So you could always get in and you know, do manage your stuff with your dad if you had that itch to it for him to be the manager, I would have to get in the ring, and that happened. Don't you do run ins? Though? Don't you do some running? They're more like walks, but the lippings, yeah, creepings. Row said, I was harder in the business because I took five minutes to get in the rig. I'm just saying there's a way that you can work and not have to

like be fully trained. Oh for sure, we can figure we can get you in this. Well, I'll think of stuff and we'll get you. But I'm telling you the easiest thing to do is go to the arena and try to sign those autographs. I think you and your dad together would be money. Yeah, you're probably right. I'm pretty sure I am right, but I don't know. I'm sure I am. I haven't. I have not come across you as an adult. I think you're delightful now. I thought you were a brat back then, but I think

you're delightful now. And I'm over it. I'm over it. I'm done with it. I did think you were adorable as a child, and that's why I tried to be your friend. Pumpkin loved me. Pumpkin and I used to all all the time over with the kid. I know. I had to try and get over with the family somehow couldn't do it with Tyler. But I hope to see you somewhere at a show into each other soon. I think so. And I think you should try and get on that December show. Okay, I might not an

is that the seventeenth. He actually texted me about that the other day. Finally, is it? I think that's yeah. Ye tell him you'll do it as long as Tyler can sign with you, and it's a big reunion. I'm telling you you don't need raving. You don't. I don't have to get its fine side's approval for anything. He's got a respect for me. I get a table and you know what I'm saying, Well, you're so over, then excuse me. Just do it. He makes some money, he's kind of a big deal, a big deal in Philly.

I get it. Yeah. Look, I'm just trying to help the situation. You know. I was going to put a word in, but if I don't have to, I won't. Okay, like the balls, it's fine. But again, Hack and I will be together on July twenty third. All those times are crazy. I don't know. I don't know when or where somebody's picking us up. But hopefully if we get there. Yeah, because I'm telling you, Hack, both my American Error last two flights were canceled. Yeah, I know it's horrible, right,

screwde I was stuck there. They don't have enough pilots. No, they don't. They don't. And I was at the airport. I woke up at three fifty two am to go to the airport to reschedule my flight, and they put me on Jet Blue and I had to go through Boston and that's how I got COVID. Oh so I like the American airlines for for getting COVID. Yeah, I heard Jet Blue's famous for giving you COVID. Airlines. Wait, I know. I flew Jet Blue and all I got was loud and COVID. I'm at the next show. Oh dude,

I heard there were they were offered. So they offered somebody ten thousand dollars to give up their ticket. It was that high for some certain flight somewhere. Ten jeez. I'm saying i'll take it, promoter, I'm not coming, and I'll say I'll mail you. I'm going back it. They offered me four hundred and fifty dollars to switch my flight, and then like right when they when I got that, the next thing was, your flight is canceled. This was Wednesday,

I supposedly Thursday. Because your flight's canceled, we rebooked you on Friday. Oh my god, I got Wait, I'm not going home on Friday, don't go home tomorrow. So the promoter was like, well, I'll take you to the airport. Three fifty two am. I'm standing there the freaking airport trying to get a flight. Boom, Yeah, the alerts and something out on your phone. The alerts came through to tell me I was screwed. That's what it's like. We're screwed.

You're screwed. That's us. Our American era capitals would a fucking sad face emoji. Well guess what if our flag gets canceled. What we need to do is we'll just uh, we'll have to get a room at the Marriott at the airport and then just go over early that morning. Well, yeah, that was kind of the idea when I had to make the tickets. You know what I'm saying, Oh, did you think about that, because I don't. I don't think of course, No, this idea is a great idea. Yeah.

I didn't want us to get up super early and go and have to be somewhere at eleven o'clock on the ground. You know what I mean. No, everybody's going over, everybody's getting canceled. I'll be surprised if this flight takes off. So I know I texted you that the other day. I know it. I know it, but well we'll see what happens. But that's July twenty third, come see me and saying, man, I don't know where we're gonna be, but uht to ten or eleven and ends it three

or four. It makes no sense. Yeah, see I'm not the only one. Yeah, Tyler, look this is what they sent us. Does that makes sense? But I don't know any time anywhere. I know what city I'm going to and that's it. Well, you're the only reason why I booked this. They definitely could have put it together a little bit better. It doesn't make any sense. It says it starts in ten to four, but our meet and greets eleven to three. Oh maybe we're like special and

we get to come an hour later. Yes, yeah, that's what I'm saying before. Oh the stars, but they're just the times are just floating out in space. Both it's not really like explaining it. Yeah, okay, And if you have to think about it that much, think about the people who are looking at it, and somebody else is definitely thinking about it. Yeah, well I hope somebody's thinking

about it, because if nobody shows up, I'll cry. But then the following the we have to jump in a car and it's like an hour and a half ride or something, and then we go to a show. Are you you're not wrestling? Are you hack? First of all, I don't wrestle anymore. I's text right now, he says. Friday night, we'll drive an hour from the airport to the hotel for an hour. That Saturday is the toy show from eleven am to three pm. Then a store signing from six am to eight pm. Six am. Yeah,

but it's in a different town. I think there were eighty six miles away when I checked it the other day. Shit six to eight yeah pm, six pm to eight pm. Man at a store, that's this one. That's a store. So it's not a it's not a action toy, man. So then you got eighty six miles to go back after eight o'clock? You mean with me, because I'll get carsick for sure. I throw up in the back seat. Oh you are such a loser. I am a loser.

I throw up in the back seat. That gave you all the drugs, the stuff in your bra Did you ever hear that story, Tyler. Maybe your fathers so many story your father, you know, we traveled together a lot over the last thirty years. Your dad had I don't even know what kind of drugs he had all over his body. And we landed somewhere for ECW. I don't know where we were, but we got into like this van cab right. It was because it was me, it was Hack, it was I think Joel Gertner, a bunch

of us. Karno I think was in the van with us, like a bunch of us, you know, And we get in and the gentleman was he was like Pakistani, sure okay, and he you know, when he talked, couldn't really understand what he was saying. He had there was a little bit of a language barrier. But your father, you know, being the gentleman that he is, called him that name. They didn't like it because his name was not Hubby,

it was something different. Hack kept calling him this name, and they start and your father starts cursing at him. So the cab driver took off, but only went in a circle, and he parked right back where we started and he told us to get out. Well, Hat told them basically, fuck you I'm not getting out. And the next thing you know, he called the police. So your dad turns around and starts shoving drugs in my brother. Decision that could possibly happen. He says, put it in

your panties, and I go, okay. But here there was a dog and I said, oh my god, they're gonna sniff my crotch and whatever drugs I'm holding, I'm going to jail out of here is act. Don't worry about it. I'll take them if they if they want to put you in jail, I'll take the drugs back. I'm like, well, why don't you just hold them? Why aren't they in my peenies? I had two things, that things in my handies and then in each cup of my bra panties. So much trust, But that's what I would do. I

would take your dad on the plane. I would be his shield. He would do his gimmick. I'd cover him. Hackey. Remember remember the one time you came drunk to Tyler. We're in line on Southwest now the Southwest. There's no seats. It's like ABC, you just get in. I remember I was there earlier. I was in like B and I hear your father. Yeah, I mean, b girl, where are you were you in? Big? He's screaming right, So I look at him and he's I mean, the worst I've

ever seen him this early in the morning. So I'm trying to get on a flight, right, So I go and I grab him and he's loud and obnoxious and he wouldn't shut up, and he kept going and going. So the lady goes, he's not getting on the plane, and I go, what do you mean he's fine? No, no, he's inibriated. He's intoxicated. He's not getting on the plane. So real quick, I go, no, man, you don't understand. I said, we're professional wrestlers, and he has a concussion

and he hasn't slept all night. He's been up for thirty six hours. I said, if you let him on this plane, let him sit next to me, and I will take care of him the whole flight. And she goes, do you promise me? I go, you have my word. She goes, Okay, I get him on the plane. He fell asleep on my left boob for the two and a half hours that we were there, and I got him home safely. But time plan. I love boob. I

left bob over my right boob. Yeah, that's definitely not the first and probably let's see, I take care of my friends, and I took care of your dead several times. Somebody I can't do it. It's always a good time, always a good time. But like I said, I I appreciate you coming on, but I've been wanting to get you for a while, and I know your work schedule has been a little bit crazy, so I figured this since we were recording on Sunday, it would be good. But I hope to see you somewhere, and I hope

you go on the seventh. I can't go to the Arena. I haven't been to the Arena in thirteen years because there I was never banned. They stole money from me and stole my show that I did, so I won't go there until somebody dies. So when they die, I will make my big triumph return. But until then, that's the way it has to be. But you go, get your get your eight x tens printed up and and just go and make your money. Thank you for having me welcome. I will talk to you soon. Heck, i'll

talk to you before we leave. In a couple of weeks. Yeah, watching the brother. I'm not he maybe he's not around anymore. That door closed. You didn't hear that? That door? Okay, I'll talk to him about it through text message because I need to know who he's all right, thank you, Tyler, pleasure buddy? All right? You do by what? Always an adventure? What was that? He's the best? There's always something when he's on it's great. I had to break Tyler's stone.

That look in that one picture is the look I always got from him as that's so funny. But you know what, he was good. Even if he didn't understand basically what was going on, he took the cues. I mean, for a kid, he knew what he was doing out there. Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah. It was really a classic character. I just feel like if he did something, especially like you said in Philly, yeah, people, And I think it's

got to be the specialty shows, you know. I think they popped up at an indie and you know, Delaware. It might not be the greatest feeling in the world, but if they save it for the big conventions, you know, Legends of the Ring or a big events something like that, Whereas anywhere that ecw Ran would and if yeah, and

you're anticipating that big crowd. You know what would be interesting to see if that encyclopedia has a picture of it in the ECW little blurb that they put up, you know, they put like the little collage of ECW pictures. Maybe he made it in there. He might not even know. Yeah, I don't. You never know. But that's a niche too, because people want every single picture signed exactly. You know.

I just feel like he's he's missing an opportunity. And I and I don't think you need Raven and Loriie and I mean not that no, because if there's a picture with the four of them, people put it together, well, that's marketable too. But if you just have a picture of you and Sandman or Tyler and Sandman, I think

that would sell just as well. I think that that's just as good as even maybe even better than him and Raven, you know, because him and Raven, it's cool when he's wearing the targo, you know, the reuniting, and I think that that's the moment, you know, it's the payoff for the whole angle. So I think, yeah, that works. And I think in the arena legends of the ring big event. I think wrestle Khan, for God's sake, I

think that's where it could work. And I'm surprised that some of those other wheelmasters of convention booking haven't tried to get it done. You know me, I know, yeah, yeah, I'm thinking all the time every time. And it's just absolutely as soon as his face popped up, I was like, yo, something there's looking there. You know what, there's people who do conventions appearance who've done less, you know what I mean, Please I can name. I won't because I I'm not

that girl. But there are people at these conventions that I don't even know how they get booked. It's it's interesting, you know. I mean, I don't mean to sound like a bitch when I say that, but it's like, who do you know? Right well? I mean even that I'm not you know, I'm not singling this guy out, but that dude we met in Winchester. He's just an extra in movies. You know, he's got a lot of credits, but like he's sit at a convention for two days

or you know what I mean, I don't know. It's uh, I mean, God bless you if you could get that you do it, get yours. Yeah, I am not crapping on your parade. But it's just it's funny. You know, we sit here and we say to ourselves, Okay, how am I gonna get my ass on this convention? Yes? And you you work and you hustle, and then there's people that are like, I don't I don't know how you got here, and they have no line and it's it's it's bizarre. I don't know it is, but you know,

but but here's the thing. He holds out longer, and there's maybe there's a bigger demand, you know, maybe years old. Yeah, exactly exactly. I just feel like it's a missed opportunity, you know, like that's nostalgia. Yeah. And and people just I always get like pieces of merch like a chair or a bell or a turn buckle, and they want every single person from ECW on it. Tyler is a part of ECW. You know, people would want his signature

on this memorabilia. Yeah. So Hi, if you are listening, get your butt in gear and let's I'll only take ten percent as your manager, because you know your dad's not going to do it for you. Also, I'll get you some bookings for sure. We also learned that his dad wanted him to be a porn star, which is weird, interesting career selection. That's wrong with him, I don't understand. Anyway, That's always funny, always a good time with my friend. Yeah, Tie, So the first ever guess on Eyes up here, it

was yeah, yeah. I texted him this week and I was like, uh, I said, look, we're going to record on a Sunday. I said, can you and Tie come one? I think it would be fun? And you're right. I don't do podcasts. And then and then the dots were up and I go, yes, you do, dummy. I go, you did mine, and he goes, I only do yours. He does anything for you, and I was like, okay, good, So it's fun. It's fine. I'm looking forward to that weekend, even though the car rides will be hillacious. Oh my gosh,

that's brutal, eighty six miles. I mean, you know, hopefully there's a short cut somewhere, but yeah, I need to take dramamine because I will literally be dry heaving in the backseat of the car because you know, Hack's not sitting in the backseat. It's so oh god, it's I mean, you've traveled with me. I can't do the backseat. No, I'm on something for motion sickness because I will get super sick. So but hey, you know, it's funny that trip's almost a year ago already, is it? That Albany

trip was August? It was August twenty twenty one? It really is that crazy holy crab. It seems like it was just like two or three. Yeah, completely agree. I think the year has flown, It really has. My kids were just saying, because we were talking about like not going in the pool as much as we wanted to, and I said, well, you know, we still had a good chunk of the summer, and my daughter's like, Mom, it's already July. You know, you're right, God, that's that's Yeah.

We were having the same conversation about the pool we joined. It's we haven't been there in three weeks or they maybe they went before we went on our world tour, but because that's what it feels like. But yeah, they yeah, we have barely used it compared to previous years when we were there like two or three times a week. I know we're going to try and get in there

or tomorrow for sure after my dentist appointment. But it just like I want to work, but like after next weekend, I'll be gone three weekends in a row, and that kind of makes me sad because there's three summer weekends that I won't be able to enjoy the pool with the kids, you know what I mean. So you're gathering you know that one, it's like that, it feels like that one's been talked about for so long. Yeah, and it's like a month away, and you know, I'm scared

because I was talking Shane about it. He is actually staying for the show that night, but I'm not. I have a flight, and if I don't get on this six o'clock flight, I'm screwed because the way the airlines are, you know what I mean. Like I was talking about that, I'm like, Okay, somebody's gonna have to take me to the airport. Like as soon I think the signing might be over at two o'clock or something, I have to get my ass right to the airport because I have

a six o'clock flight. But that's canceled, Like somebody better pick me up and take me back to the show or something. I know I'm so nervous flying. It seems like it's so I've I've just been hearing horror stories for everybody. And and the one like there was a stewardess that put this like list out and like helpful tips if you're flying or whatever. It says if you're if your journey is seven hours or less, drive and I'm like, I'm driving by myself for seven hours? What

are you crazy? There's no way. Yeah, that's what that was. Like the first thing it said drive and I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm not driving. Like the one weekend is just Queens and I think Hack's picking me up, so that's going to be a simple short drive back and forth. But then the other two weekends it's American Airlines. Again. Oh boy, I'm so scared. I do oh. I'm always praying on the point and I'm like, please, dear God, let us land State, let us get there, you know.

But if they start this canceling bullshit, I'm in trouble. You know. It's I mean, at least we're in, like he said, we're in the night before, and then for the gathering, we're in the night before, so if something happens, we just missed the dinner, which maybe it's not that big of a deal. We have to be there for the signing, but I've been there during the dinner but not at the dinner. And it's so weird because you know, they really do I mean, I'll give them credit, they

really do a great job. I love that hotel. The hotel. When I was there the last time, we had a banger of a time. Okay, the hotel bar, and then across the way there's there's like a dock that connects like a bunch of restaurants and bars. So we just hung out in the bar and then went across to the other bars. But like when that dinner starts, you you just see this rush of all these people that

are going to sit and listen to the speeches. And I think, is it a sit at a table with the wrestler too, like some but he's assigned to your table kind of thing? Is that what it is? Something like that? I think it's a barbecue. Oh boy, I don't know. But you guys are being honored at the dinner, right, Yeah, we're getting inducted into some hall of fame. So maybe you have a special setup for the inde yes, all I know is I said the moose. I said, do I have to wear a gown or some like? Is

it the oscars? Like, what do I have to wear? And he goes, well, he goes, if you dress up, it would be nice, he said, as long as she doesn't wear the dance. I said, well, I don't think he's going to come out in a TUXI though, you know, but I think a nice if I wear, like a nice sun dress or something, I think that's acceptable with Shane. For a button down with Jeane, you guys would be perfect. Or he would wear a perfectly rated shirt because he's

going the couple for sure. I don't know what's going to happen, as long as I just want to lay and I just want to get there on time and come home on time and not have to worry about these frigging flights and I don't want to get COVID again. And we'll talk about that on the next episode. Yes we will. We will. Indeed, got another hour coming up, so oh man. But it's been a long time in the making. It's been forever since we sat down, so it's like we haven't recorded in two months. It feels

like it really feels like that. I think it was really three weeks or just about three weeks, but it feels longer than that by like a long shotspened. Well, we're getting stuff done today. We're back, baby. Are we gonna talk about Vince more? We'll talk about it the next one. We don't have a guest for so it's just gonna be you and I vibing your Disney recap, my COVID recap. We can talk about Vince. We'll talk

about everything possible, COVID previews. Oh oh yeah, but uh, for now, let's just plug our stuff so we can to the next episode absolutely well. Head on over to patreoon dot com slash Francceine podcast. Coming over and check out the extras. We've got some special vaulted stuff that we're bringing out for the first time. I've got some footage from my Disney trip that's heading out. I'm trying to convince the Queen of Extreme to get me some

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