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Tammy "Sunny" Sytch

Jul 24, 20211 hr 12 min
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This is one of the biggest Eyes Up Here episodes to date. We welcome Francine's good friend, Tammy Sytch aka Sunny to the podcast. Sit back as she opens up about her incarceration and how her life has changed in addition to the stories and fun these two have had as friends for over 20 years.

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All right, I get to go right now. It is his Eyes up Here, and you're listening to a brand new Eyes up Here and watching Randow Eyes up Here on our Patreon channel and of course on the Greed of Control network. If you didn't know by now, my name is Chad in every single week I'm joined here by the Queen of Extreme Francine on her show, it's Eyes up Here, Eyes up Here, Yes, yes, yes, yeah? Uh so real quickly teeth update yes, because y'all want

to know about my teeth. I went to the dentist this week on Monday because remember, my bracket was off, so he fixes it. I asked him if I can cut these balls off? He's like, who told you that? And I said, oh people, And he's like, no, you can't. Those are forebber bands. And I was like, oh, I don't know. And I said, I have this thing back here. It's making a hole. So he bent that down so it's it's better, right, But he fixes the bracket. I came home, went to sleep that night. I woke up

it was off again. It was all the way, so I look it up and here it's because I have a porcelain tooth. It won't adhere to anything but real enamel, A porcelain tooth. Yeah, they you know I broke my tooth when I was a kid, and they'd steal an overlay over it. Interesting, I don't know about that. And so now I said, well, what are all the other teeth going to move? And this one's not and this one's going to be here and the rest of them snaggle tooth? That is not going to happen to me.

So you better think of a way to fix this tooth because I'm not going to go in and have to come back every week to have him bonded. And at last thirty minutes, I could literally slide it back and forth. Again. It's ridiculous. So I learned something thing it only hears to real enamel, which is so we don't want the snaggle tooth. We don't want that. I who want to be good for Raisey. I apologize if you have one out there, but I don't. I'm paying

big bucks for these braces. It's his chick on TikTok that Liz watches that she has no teeth right, and when she doesn't have her teeth and she doesn't put any makeup on and she looks maybe stereotypical to people with no teeth, right, but then she puts in these chompers and does herself up, looks like a completely different person.

Is she gorgeous? Raziest thing? Yes, craziest thing, rasiest Okay, and you know what, you know what her gimmick is what she'll pop the teeth out, She'll still be gorgeous, and she gives a mean blowjob. I never even thought about that, didn't even think that far into the the mold. But now that I do, man and I an idiots. There you go. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate you enlightening me. Um. Yeah, it's been a crazy week.

I'll tell you one thing is very sad, and I would like to point this out, the passing of mister wonderful Paul Orner. Yes, well, you know we had a lot of great pass he had Melissa Coates, Yes, we did. I loved dearly she was. She was a wonderful, wonderful person. The patriot. Patriot was another tough one. And now Paul Orndorf, if they say it always happens in threes, yeah, or No.

Ordorf was tough man. That was a hard way that's that's the reason I got into wrestling was Paul Orndorf versus Hulkgan and I was a week four years old. That was the few that was going on at the time. That's what hooked me, and I got the chance to talk to him about it. I worked with Paul in twenty sixteen a bunch of times set up Paul's Pro Wrestling Teas store at one point got his T shirts made. Wolfy d made Paul's T shirts in the Pro Wrestling te store. Yes, yes he did got it. But here's

the other sad part. Why I mentioned it in twenty six seen I could tell there was something off with him. Is his memory. He he couldn't remember Roddy Piper's funeral was about six months earlier. He couldn't remember it. Really, Yeah, Now did he have I didn't look into did he have like dementia or Alzheimer's or something. I don't know what's officially released somebody I saw, right CTE. That's pretty common, but it goes it kind of yeah, but it also with his age kind of goes hand in hand with

possible Alzheimer's dementia because of the remembering stuff. And there was a video that circulated him and another reason why I wanted to talk about him that video that came out like a month ago of him opening up pepper packets and eating the pepper and oh I never saw that. Oh you know, Oh it's got wrenching. It was he's all his hairs all scraggly. Well, why is somebody videotaping him doing that? His it was his son videotaping him saying, Daddy,

I love you. Do you remember me? And it was very sad and he goes, why daddy, why are you eating that? You know, why why are you that? But oh Man Orndorf Man, he was what a trip. Did you ever get a chance to meet him at any conventions? I don't believe I have. Now, Okay, he was. He would he would have loved you because he's very nice with the ladies. But he, uh, yeah he was. That That was a hard one because that just brings me back to how I fell in love with wrestling. Piper

is now gone, Orndorf is gone. Yeah, those are the guys that got me to the dance. Sad, so well, rest their souls and no more. Let's uh, let's take a break, you know. I don't like. I don't like death. It frightens me terribly. Any fun stuff going on that we could talk about is not filled with fun, Unfortunately it's not. But we do have fun guests coming up. Yes, not on the screen yet, but yeah, well she she's been a friend of mine. What's up? You have a history.

We have a long history in and out of the ring. And I mean she's been a friend of mine, good lord since the mid nineties. And there was a knock on the zoom door. Oh, I'm going to admit today's guest. Well, you know you want her. She is Tammy Lynn Sitch, also known as Sonny. But I can't see her, and her mic is muted. It takes a second sometimes. Where is she? Okay, she's not mutant anymore. We can hear you. It's see you all right? How do I do this? Hey?

There we go? How are you? She's leaving already, she's gone natural light. It'll make you ever vencent. It will chase people off until I start talking. So I just got to keep my mouth, sweetheart. It's been it's been a hot minute since I've seen that face. How are you? Yes? Well, first of all, I get all dressed up. All my clothes are in storage, so I'm gonna t shirt you look beautiful as always to get some of it out, so I'll be okay, listen, should we should we talk

about the elephant in the room? Vaguely? Because is this your first interview? Yes? Okay, so your first interview, first one, first one since the vacation. I'm I'm honored I choose me, although I did badger her and I threatened her and told her I will never speak to her again. If she knows, yeah, you did. He threatened me. She said, I will never speak to you again unless I absolutely have to. Do you not know me by now? My t I want to They're very they're very effective. So

you know, everybody knows the situation that you were in. Unfortunately, I asked, was this time different than the others? Did you go in with the different Well, this this was totally different. I got a driving on a suspension and I'm suspended from the old UIs. So it it's a mandatory six months in jail on New Jersey. And how long were you in there for? Well? I did my six months for that, but that violated the probation. I

was still on in Pennsylvania. So I had to max out that time and that was matched out to May twenty first, so I did just over ten months fun stuff. But I'm all done with that probation in Pennsylvania. Now. They can't do anything else to me. That five years of them sending me back all the time for sneezing in the wrong direction. It is done. Okay, are you clearing you? Cause my po in Pennsylvania was horrible and

it doesn't matter what I would do. If I was a half an hour late for an appointment, she would violate me and stick me in jail. I was just bullshit. But I'm done with them. It's all over done. So you're done. You're done with PA. What about New Jersey? Are you good in New Jersey? Yeah? I'm good here, You're good everywhere. I just can't drive. I can't drive, okay if I don't get If I do, when I

get pulled over, it'll be another mandatory six months. Well, we're not going to get pulled over again, right, I just we're not going to do that. We're not gonna fuck around with all that stuff. That's done. Well. The problem was last year I got a really pretty Jaguar F type convertible and I had to dry it. So yeah, all right, you're you're smarter than this. I know. That's why I'm not driving now. Uber is my new best friend. Okay,

very well, listen. The thing that that I've said over and over is you have to learn from your mistakes. So if you learned and you're moving on and you're you're being the best you you can be, that's all anybody can ever ask. Correct, when you went in jail this time? Yeah, uh, I don't know what number it was, But when you went in this time, and I love you, I can teach you to did you go in with a different mindset, like, because you know the first time,

I'm sure you were scared shitless. I mean I would be. I would be the time. Because it's not that bad. Give me, give me an example of it. Okay, give me an example. To be a lot worse on TV than it actually is. So it's it's it's really not that bad. It's doable. You can make it. Stop. Stop give me, I'm gonna kill her. Give me an example of a typical day. Do you get woken up at the crack of dawn by a warden threatening you. No, Okay, what happened? Do you tell me? You don't even have

to wake up if you don't want to busy. I'm diabetics, So they would come and wake me up at four thirty every morning to do a sugar check and to give me insuln four thirty every morning. That's I've had to do it. You know, it's a medical thing, so you have to do it. Then I'd go back to sleep for a couple hours. And then usually around eight o'clock is when they pop your door and you can go out and watch TV, and you know, breakfast comes and all that stuff. I didn't eat a lot of

their food though, because the food's horrible. But yeah, and then but you don't. All you basically do is watch TV, play cards. You know, you can sleep all day if you want to. There's a lot of girls who color, like those adult coloring books that are their coloring all they provide, like, no, you have to have that stuff sent in. Okay, yeah, okay that yeah, But there's no like where I was anywhere, There's no like strict format of things you have to do. It's just yeah, you

can be lazy or you can do something. I actually got a job in there so I can have something to do. So I was, and I got the best job in the jail because they trusted me. They knew I wasn't going to like run, So I was. I was cleaning the warden's office and the lobby and I got to take the garbage out by myself into the parking lot where all the cars are, because they trusted me that I was going to come back and not like run down the story. But yeah, so I had

a job. It was maybe maybe time out, your taking your trash outside by yourself. Yeah, a parking lot is there. I envision a big gate with barbed wire that there is. But I go out the front lobby doors because I had all access because they trusted well, she of course you have all access. Why wouldn't if you wanted to run? Are you able to scale this wall and try over where I was? There were no where I was going out to take the garbage out. There's no walls. It's

just the parking lot on the street. You could have run. You could have ran for your life. Yeah, I could have walked away. They probably wouldn't have realized I was gone for like twenty minutes thirty minutes. But I didn't do it because if you get it, if you get an escape charge, it's like seven years in jail. So you don't want to But Hill Dummer Day. I mean, you're you're a very likable girl. I've known you for years, but I wouldn't trust you taking car. Sorry. And where

the parking lot is. It's where all the CEO's park and all visitors park and stuff like that. So it was very easy. If somebody wanted to drive up, open a hard door, you can dive in and boom, you'd be gone. Nobody would even know. Are you in an orange jumpsuit? No? What are you wearing? Are you wearing like a bikini? Like what is going on in these prisons? Maybe I would have gone out sooner, But no, you wear this like alpha. It looks like scrubs. It looks

like medical scrubs. Oh, like like a hospital scrub. Yeah yeah, see, I'm thinking you're in all orange, you're shackled, you got a big ball on your leg, or you know, the color chained together, just getting like a burgundy color. So it looks like it looks like your nurse. If you didn't look close enough, it looks like a nurse. Was this the same jail that you were in before? M hm, so not the Pennsylvania one. I mean I was in Pennsylvania before, But this is the Jersey jail that I

was in before. Yeah, you were in Okay, so when you walk in, you don't know anyone. No, this time, I saw some people that were there the last time. So you have friends, well, I wouldn't call them friends, acquaintances, jail acquaintances, okay, jail buddies. Well, okay, are you not really my kind of people? So I don't really. I mean, look where you are hunt. Do you form alliances? Like do you have like your little friends that you go watch TV with and play games? Yeah, play cards with someone.

You're not playing Solitaire the whole time? That'll you play the spades. Spades is the big jail game. I don't have to play. See, I would find jail. I can't play spades. I don't like to take out the trash. I'd be the shits, honest. I took the job so I can be out of the pod and away from everyone from eight till twelve every day. So I was in hanging out in the warden's office, the administration offices, the sergeant's office that would clean, and they would get

me food from the officers dining room. So I was eating cheeseburgers and cheese steaks and you're eating all stuff. Yeah, I got the good stuff, so you're you're actually see this is why Tammy is smart cookie. She knows who to associate eight with and she knows how to get those brownie points because I'm sure they see you doing all these good deeds and they're like, huh, maybe you can get out a little earlier if they Well, no, see that's the thing. Can't you do get time off

when you work there? But not for driving infractions? So I had to do every single day. But if you're like a drug addict and you're selling drugs in a school zone and you get a job, you can get time off. But just for driving a car, I couldn't get any time off. How does that make? So backwards? It's so ass backwards. That really doesn't make any sense to me. It doesn't, It doesn't. There was a girl there that had multiple possession charges. She had a job

to not as good as mine. She didn't have the freedom that I did. She was cleaning some other offices. But she got out three months early on a year sentence on all these drug charges because she was working, so she got all that time off. Oh okay, all right, but yeah, but you did it the right way this time, you because the last five times or whatever it was, you didn't have jobs, right, you were just in the kitchen up in the Pennsylvania jail. You worked in the kitchen.

Were you like supergirl? What were you doing? Did you say no soup for you? What did you do? No? When you work in the kitchen, you prep food, you cook food, you serve food, you do dishes like pretty much everything. It's like a big commercial kitchen. You can do everything. For those of you who don't know, this bitch can cook. Yeah, she is a great, great cook. So but you have to use the materials that you have in front of you. Obviously. Were you trying to

like doctor them up and make them like special? Yeah? I did, And I got in trouble for that because you're supposed to stay right with their menu, and I'm like, but this stuff sucks, So I'd be like seasonings and doing my own thing, and got in trouble a couple of times. But uh, you know, I was like, they're human, let them eat good food exactly like, because everything everything's

usually bland with no flavor and no seven seasonings. And every time, like the kitchen supervisors were like turned away, I'm like grabbing like all kinds of garlic, powder and pepper and whatever. Right, that's very good fellas of you, by the way, that's very that's exactly out of good fellas. It's the exact same thing I'm thinking. And then see when you work in the kitchen too, after you're done serving and everything like that and cleaning up the kitchen,

then you can make your own food. So I was making like chicken caesadias and all kinds of fun stuff, grilled cheeses, you know, so I know how to get decent food in exactly. Well, we're kind of glamorizing jail thing right now. It's not fun. It's not fun and I'm never going back. Like I said, probation is done. That was the biggest headache. And yeah, thank god that's over with as of May twenty. First, I'm done with them. They can do nothing else to me ever again, and

Jersey's totally different. Like when I go to this jail here in Jersey, which is not gonna happen again either. Most of the CEOs were wrestling fans at one time. Yeah, okay, so you walk in and it's like, hey, Sonny, what's up. Nice to see you again, and like, oh god, here we go. Yeah exactly. And then there's a few that, like when I get out, they hit me up on Facebook trying to date me. Yeah, yeah, there's a few.

And then there's a few like in jail that they would like sneak me food from the officers dining room into my like sell and stuff like that, and like give a wink when they do it, and just in hopes that they'll get lucky after I get out, But no, it's not gonna happen. I'll take the pizza, but it's not gonna pizza. Tuesday and Friday was pizza night in there, so I always got pizza from this one Italian ceo two nights you get pizza a week. Yeah, only me, though,

are you? Oh only well, you know, not all of us are un gets, that's true, but but seriously, like mentally, yeah, how are you when you're in there? Because like for me, I don't like being like alone you know what I mean, Like I would feel very I'm only hay being alone. I mean, I've always been kind of a loner as it is. Anyway, So I had my own cell. They didn't give me a roommate, which was nice, so every and the whole the whole time, you know, when I

first got there, I chose to have her roommate. It was a girl I really got along with, and we just like we bonded and could we clicked. So we were together. But she was only there for three months and then she got out. So then the rest of the time I was by myself, which is great. And they don't put me like every time somebody new comes in, they'll put them in with someone else. And they let me have my own privacy cell and everything. And my cell was right by the TV, so even when I

was locked in, I can still watch TV. So I just make sure I get, you know, as many perks as I can. Well, I'm there to make it as easy as possible. We're workers. That's what we do. That's what we do. EXU. You got to work it everywhere. I think like mentally, I think it would for me, it would kind of screw with my head. Well, yeah, it's only like I said, I'm like, we're goofing around about it, laughing about it, glamorizing it. But it's not glamor glamorous at all. I mean, you have the worst

products in the world. It's like dollar store shampoos and stuff like that. You have to buy products girl mental health. No, but I'm saying that's cruiser the mental health because you're using all this like this, these horrible products, and your hair gets shitty and your skin gets shitty, and you look in the mirror which isn't even a mirror. It's like this polished piece of stainless steel, so you can't

really see yourself. But then I go and I do my cleaning and like the offices and I look in the real mirror in their bathrooms and I'm like, oh my god, this is just horrendous. You know, So it really does fuck with your head. Yeah, and you just you know, that's then you just like a prey that you know, a full spotting and a HYDROFACIALI fix everything when you get out, Like, are you with like major criminals, whether are there girls that have like committed murder or yeah, okay,

you tend to away from girls. No, you're you're around them the whole time. Basically. Yeah, there was one girl there, she's already been there six years, leading on trial. She's therefore killing her girlfriend, chopping her up into little pieces and burying her in the backyard. And the girl, the woman's daughter is still missing, so we don't know exactly what happened to the daughter. Then there's another one that was there, the Spanish girl, who this is like disgusting.

She videotaped her boyfriend performing oral sex on her nine month old baby. These are the people I was in there with and all I did was drive a car when I wasn't supposed to. Where's the boyfriend at is he in jail? Yes, he's there with her. Fucking oh my god, see that with children. I can't. Like, that's just too much. Yeah, everybody just kind of avoids her,

and it's just it was disgusting. It was absolutely disgusting when I find Like, when I got there, I didn't know what she was there for, and she's being all nice and she's Spanish and talking in Spanish and stuff like that, and then somebody told me what she was there for. I was like, oh my god, I drew. All I did was drive a car. And I'm here with these kind of people. And there was on three other girls that were there for murder. One she was

seventeen at the time. She was already there for three years. She was seventeen at the time. She had a baby at home, dressed the baby up, took pictures of the baby, sent it to all her friends, and then smothered the baby, put it in a duffel bag and threw it in the dumpster. Oh God forbid. And these are the kind of people I'm in there with. And all I did was drive a car. Oh my god. As a mother, I can't even I love my kids. I'm not even a mother, and I can't even fathom. No, I know,

Oh my god, that's awful. That's yeah, yeah, you hear all. It's not a fun place. That's why. That's why I try to get a job so I can get out and spend half the day, you know, doing some cleaning and walking into the parking lot and taking out garbage and you know, doing my things. So well, I was thrilled when I heard you were done. Yes, And because you know you and I I mean, I don't even remember what year we met, But I remember the first night I met you. Probably I don't know if you

remember the first night we met, but I do. It was at the arena and I was I don't know who I was walking with, but I was like, walking this way. You were walking this way, okay, And I remember everybody warning me about you, don't be friends with her, don't be friends. I didn't know you, so I didn't know. And you know, for me, I have to like, I take it with a grain of salt. But if you're good to me, I'm good to you. That's the way

I look at things, right me too. So you're coming this way, and all in the back of my head, I just keep hearing don't be friends with her, don't be friends with her. And you leaned over to me as we're walking and grabbed my arms and was like, I've been wanting to meet you, And I said, and I've been wanting to meet you. And we were we kind of said let's get together later because we were both doing something like I don't know if we were doing.

We were doing something, okay, and like I kept walking and I said, she doesn't seem that bad, you know what I mean? Like, if you were such a bitch, why would you You know I am, but not to everybody. But they're all a bitch in a sense. We all have our bitchy moments. But I mean we I thought we clicked right then and there and from that night on we've been friends ever since. Yeah, And I always tell people like everybody's like, how is Tammy? And I'm like, look,

I've been friends with her for twenty something years. Like I love the girl. I loved working with her. I loved her outside of the business. I've never had an argument, like a real argument with you. No, I don't think we've ever had an arm No, Like we've bickered about stupid bullshit, but nothing but not like a fight, not like you not have. No, we've ever been mad at each other, you know what I mean. Like it's never come to and all these people like I, I don't

know why you have such a bad reputation. I I think because when it comes to business, I can be a real bitch because I don't let people walk all over me. But that's a good thing. Yeah, because what I used to have to do a lot and you were probably there at some shows like with Chris you know, he was a horrible businessman, nicest guy in the world, but he would let people screw him over left and right.

He would take a show with a guarantee of let's say seven point fifty, and the promoter will walk up, Hey, listen, I only have three hundred. Okay, that's all right, and I'm like, no, that's not okay, right. I would have to get in the promoter's face and demand the money and get bitchy, and he would get paid. So I got that reputation of being, you know, the cunt in the business just because I don't let people walk all

over me or him. But there were so many people I had to get in their face at shows because they didn't they were trying to, you know, cut his money because they sort of worked for Yeah, Chris would work for free, like he just loved the business so much. He could have had a twenty thousand dollars guarantee and the guy would say, hey, listen, I can't pay it, and I can can I get you next year? Because we'd be like, yeah, no problem, and it's like no.

So I would have to be the voice. So I got that reputation of being a bitch but when it comes to you, when it comes to business, business is business, and you're not going to screw me or anybody. I love over But you know, but other than that, I think I'm pretty easy going. I listen. I we've worked together so many times, you know, and there was never a moment where either of us got hurt. No, we laughed our asses off under our air especially won't dresses

pop off? Oh my god, do you remember that? Yes, Chad, do you know what she's talking about? I think we have talked about it before, but please we so. Tammy and I frequented the fetish Factory in Yes. Oh, I was just there last year and then sin, it's not there anymore. I was gonna say, I don't think it's open anymore for it? Oh, it was. It was this place. It was expensive too. I don't know how we found it, but we found it. I think we just drove by

it and saw it and said, oh, let's stop bondage. Yeah. We thought it'd just be like cool clothes, and it was a whole bondage store. Yeah, it was like sex stuff. It was. It was this crazy mass, like the zippers across the mountain, like the gas mask and they had whips and changing. But remember when you first walked in there were the butt plugs. Were like wait, there was so many crazy things. Yea. So here we go chat like she and I think we're gonna find some cool

clothes for work. And we go in and sell this bondage stuff. We're like you guys, like, hey, ladies, how you do? And we're like he was such a creef too. So so Franny's looking through this rack of rubber clothing and she finds this awesome dress. And the dress has a full zipper up the front and a full zipper up the back. I didn't find anything I like, but she's like, I have to have this dress. It was four hundred dollars to four hundred dollars for a rubber dress.

It was like a murder. It was a gown. It was a mermaid. Yeah, it was long, long in time. Yeah, it was long. Wasn't it like a reddish color? It was red? Yes, it was hot red. It was like a red lipstick, like I was what they call, yeah, devil red. So she buys this dress. I bought this dress and I bring it to the arena and Paul says, well, you're only doing a run in tonight, and that's the

only dress that I brought that day. And I was like, well, shit, you know this, I'm gonna waste the four hundred dollars dress on like this five second run in. That's gonna suck. Well, little did I know that that clip would make it ten shows we had. We had to run in on Bam Bam Bigelow. Yeah. I don't even remember the setup, but I don't remember the whole thing, but we had to run in on Bammer and I ran in first, and he basically just scooped me up onto his shoulder,

like for his finish. Then you come running in and he's supposed to scoop you up on his other shoulder first finish. He's supposed to have both of us up here. Now I'm already up on his shoulder, you know, flailing in the breeze. You come running, you put one knee upon the apron to get up. Back Zipper pops open the whole thing. You say, no, draw on and I have the micro thong. Then she still gets in the ring, gets up to Bammer and as he's picking her up

onto his shoulder front zipper pops open. Well no no, no, no, no, yeah yeah, and you're starting to hold it closed. And I'm already up on his shoulder and I look over and I just lost it. I just know you you go my life. You're naked, laughing, and Bam BAM's face like he looked like he shipped a brick in his pants, like he didn't know what to do. And I was here, we are, but both the Bambam's shoulders supposed to be afraid for our life. He's about to kill us, and

are just cracking up. And she's naked on his shoulder with a little piece of rubber like cause she's trying to cover her boobs with the rubber. The whole backroom she's shrinking. Ever wore that four hundred dollars dress? Thank god? Is what happened again? That is awful? You know what my favorite spot is? I think that we ever did? I think it was in Buffalo. I think it was

the Burt Flickender Center. I don't know why this is popping in mine don't remember the name of that, the Burt Flickender Center, because it had it was a cool building and it had like the bleachers went all the way up, but the entrance way. The entrance way was in the middle, and then there were two bleachers here. And I don't remember the match at all, but I remember for some reason, I went to the back and we worked it out before and you and Chris were

supposed to grab me. Shane is still in the ring, and I remember saying to Chris, go get a knife. Do you remember this? No, they aired it. I said, get some kind of a knife, even if it's a butter knife, because it'll be hysterical, I said. And and like Tammy, or you can hold me and the other person can put a knife to my throat. I don't remember this. Oh yeah, and we did it and it aired. Oh my god, this must have been one of the

drunk years. Don't we come. I've run back and then we come out and Joey's like, oh my god, Chris and Sonny have francy and it's like, I'm gonna catch up. I'm gonna have to watch this clip. I don't remember what year. I want to see Bert Flickinger, but that is my by far, my funnest more fun I don't know is that even the world the funnest, most fun my most fun. Thank you. My most fun spot that we ever did was him holding something up to my neck and you're just like and you're grabbing my hair

and there's some kind of weapon against it. It was just so much fun. Yeah, I said, it probably was like a plastic but it could have been a spork for all I know. I don't know. We were talking earlier about balls, mahoney, killing the shark with the remember, Oh my god, we had such fun. We I'm trying to think what we did so Tammy and I we would go either early or stay late in Fort Laarderdale. Yeah, we always did one or the other, went early or stayed late to have a couple of days of vacation.

Do you want to talk about tens? Yeah, of course tens. One of that stems from the fetish factory. Well we got a card right, Well, you're buying the dress, and the creepo at the register said, hey, ladies, there's a bondage party at Ten's tonight. We said, what's tense? He goes a club. We said, okay, let's go. Now. Little did we know that it was a strip club. We had no idea with a name like that. We didn't know so we told the Holy CW crew, Hey, let's

all go to this club called Tens tonight. There's a bondage party. And everybody's like, yeah, okay, let's all go, like the whole crew. So we get there and Franny and I are dressed like we're dressed in gimmick. Yeah, we're dressed in gimmick clothes, okay, and we go there. We walk in, we went, oh, it's a strip club, okay, and it's bondage night. So everybody, all these strippers are dressed in like, you know, the plethor and whips and all this stuff. And we're like, okay, well we're here,

let's just stay. And that was the beginning of a very interesting night. So there are several things I remember, and I don't know how because I drank four Long Island iced teas that night. Yeah, you were pretty wasted. But that was the first night I ever took a soma. Yes it was, I remember, And who gave it to me? Did I? You gave me five? I listen, I should have died. I think I should have died that night because I would never have let you die because you

were fucked up too. Yeah, wellever you go here, take these They'll be fine. And I'm like, hey, and I got my uh long island, I pop them. I had to go to the bathroom, but there was no female bathroom. It was the locker room for the strippers. So what happened? You know, Franny goes over and she's when when Franny drinks, she's not a very nice girl. She gets pretty. I no time out. I am nice unless you piss me off. Okay, yes,

and I get crazy. Yes. So she goes to the girl's locker room because there's a men's bathroom, and then just like the girl's dressing room, she opens the door and starts grabbing strippers and pulling them out. Get the fuck out of here. I gotta take a piss bathroom because they weren't letting me use their bathroom. So she she was literally man handling these strippers one by one, pulling them out of the dressing room, saying get out of here, I gotta take a pic. And they were

just like what's going on? And they all left find the bathroom by herself, and I was standing there like, oh my god, I was beyond. I was beyond. But none of them complained. They just did what you told me to. I walked in and I said, listen, may I use your bathroom. I was nice at first, and then they all looked at us because we weren't one of them, and it was kind of like getting better than they were. Well that's what remember. The guys were like, oh,

you look better. You should go on the stage. So tell me. Jumped on the stage and started jumping around the pole and I'm trying to pull her off with the stage. Well no, wait, wait. When I got on the stage, it was because the DJ said, if the girl in blue gets on stage with mistress Erin, she'll win a free cruise. Mistress Erin, remember mistress Erin. So I jumped on the stage and I basically stood there and I was like the pole for her, and she like danced around me and I picked up all her

money and I won a free cruise. I didn't take the cruise. Remember, it's just like a weekend cruise down. But I remember you spinning and the boys are yeah, and the boys were like, get her off the stage. So I'm like okay, and then they're like oh and because I had purple, oh the girl in purple, I'm like, no, no, no, no no, the rack you and I bring you down. Then there was a torture rack. Yeah's the torture rack.

They said if the girl in blue no no, no, no no, no. They didn't say the girl, but they said, if any of these big tough wrestlers have any balls, one of you would get on the torture rack. So none of the guys stood up. Everybody was there, Perry Saturn, Cronus, Bammer Shane, everybody was there. Nobody stood up. And what did I I went, I'll do it. It's it's like the you put your arms in your head, your arms in your legs are strapped in like this X kind of a thing, and then they flip you up so

you're suspended in air like parallel with the floor. So then they had a whip. They had a whip, they had feathers, they had paddles, all kinds of stuff. So I'm strapped to this this ex rack and I'm dangling over the floor and there's like eight stippers around me and they're all like, you know, hitting me or whipping me or tickling me or something. And I'm cameras and remember that guy, the guy crawls in under me, with a camera and starts taking pictures and I'm like, who

the fuck are you? Get the fuck out of here, And Perry sat Hen grabbed him by the neck, pulled him out, threw him out of the club, grabbed his camera, smashed it on the ground, pulled all the film out, and turns out he was from Playboy dot com. Wow, trying to get pictures. And Perry Saturn was like, uh no, this is not going to happen. And he just manhandled him, broke his camera, took the film out, threw him out

the door. It was great. And after sat and after that though, all the guys they were like, let's let her have her fun. So all the guys then stood around the track with their backs to me and their arms folded so nobody could get in. So I can just hang there and get whipped in tiled trip and I'm standing er and I'm going, you know, Tammy, I don't think this is a good Nobody's listening to me. They didn't care, but that everybody was trying to block

people from taking pictures. Because all the guys got up and stood around this. Let me tell you this was funny. It's like Mistress Aaron I'm not going to go any further, but you know what I'm let's just say Mistress Erin made about one thousand dollars, just say if you know, you know, and that's all I'm gonna say. I'm not gonna not gonna I got a lot of lap dances that night. Was that the same you know? What was the night with the convertible? Was that the same night?

I don't remember if it was the same day or but it was definitely the same trip. It was the same trip. It was the same trip during the day. It was during the day though, it was during the day. Yeah, I don't know, because it wasn't messed up during the day. Oh yeah, you were where did we get I didn't start drinking till we got to the bar today popped couple of gimmicks. No, no, no, no, I never did gimmicks. The first time I did was with you at tens. Yeah.

The next day that was night. No. I never took him after that. I didn't do so well. You well, you fell asleep. I was driving the convertible. It was daytime. You fell asleep in the front seat, and then when you woke up, you just like, we're just driving down A one A, and you just kind of like woke up and then turned and said, who the fuck are you? I remember being in the back seat with the girl in the middle of us. No, you were in the front. Day I was driving, You were in the front seat.

She was in the back seat, like sitting in the middle like towards us. Who was she? I don't know, some redhead? Where did you pick her up? You picked her? No, she was hanging out with us all weekend. Didn't I eat her before she got in the class? She came and hung out at the pool with us, she did. Yeah. I don't remember her name though. Was she in the business? No, she was just a rat red hair that for some

reason we had hair. Yeah, but you kind of just like opened your eyes and you went, who the fuck are you? And I'm like, Frannis be with us all weekend? Why did we pick up a stranger? My control? You? I don't know. I don't remember exactly why we let her hang out with us or I don't remember all that stuff. But yeah, she hung out with us like the whole couple of days. We see gimmicks, weren't my feet friends to fans and ret was very giving to

the fans. Let's put it that way. I liked like all I used to do was like I would do shots. I didn't really take pills. Now I had pills on me when I got hurt, obviously, because you know, when I broke my hip that delauded, I thought I was I was going to be murdered for my purse because everybody was like, oh, oh yeah, and I'm like, no, you're so I need them for my hand. But that, yeah, that's the night. That's the first time. And I remember saying to myself, how stupid are you to take five?

I'm surprised you're even conscious. Yeah, I know, I remember. I remember you falling into into the table and you fell over a bunch of chairs at tens. Yeah. Oh yeah, you fell right on your ass. I think you. Oh, I know it was you. I pie faced you. I pie faced you because I remember you said to me, you go, and I know you were breaking balls, but you go. Could you imagine if you and I started making out right now, this whole place would go nuts.

You said you were so fucked up, and I said, get out of here, and I grabbed you by your face and I pie faced you. But I didn't realize how hard I pushed you, and you fell into the table and you fell over chairs, and then I went and I picked you up because I felt dead. I don't even remember that. Oh my god, Look for being as weird as I was that night, I remember a lot of stuff. I don't know how, because I was obliviated.

I was obliviated, and I remember the stage and the bathroom and you and I just drinking, drinking, drinking, and I think that's the most I ever drank. I've never seen a drink like that before. Ever that was. And then we got tattoos that same weekend. We got tattoos, Yes we did. What did I get the butt one with you? Or did I get my name? You got your ankle? Got my ankle? And what did you get? I got my Superman? And then that's Jane because I went.

Remember I remember you leaving me to stand with Chris. I went, I went first, and I got my Superman on my tailbhone and then I said, all right, I'm going to the bar next door, so I leave them there. I think Chris was next, and when I come back, he's I on like a baby, get his arm tattooed, squeezing Franny's hands so tight, like our hand is purple, and I'm like, what it's not. So he left again and then I left again. Yeah, nice girlfriend. She leaves

me with Chris. He's a blubbering idiot. He's just crying. I'm going, it's okay, it's okay. She walks and she goes, oh God, walks right back out. I'm going, that was Bulldogs. Bulldogs. Yes, they're not there anymore either. I looked for them last year too. It's happening to Fort Lauderdale. I know. Now it's a clothing store where Bulldogs was. Oh yeah, I looked for them. I loved I love it. That was my favorite town to visit, I know. So we would go to the beach. We would go to the pool,

well out of the pool. Yeah, we got kicked out of the pool. Should we tell Chad about that. You could do it. I'd love to hear it. This is great. Okay. So down in Florida, believe it or not, thongs are against the law. You're not really allowed to wear a thong on the beach, and especially in real nice hotels, you're not allowed to wear them poolside. So Franny and I. Of course, all we pack is thong bikinis. So we're at the pool and we decide to play a game

of chicken. Franny gets on Shane's shoulders, I get on Chris's shoulders, and Franny and I are playing chicken in the pool and all you see from behind is a string across our backs and a string down our butt. That's it. So from behind, we're pretty much naked. So we're playing chicken, and then the guys leave and then I dive under the water. I get under Francy and

I pick her up on my shoulders. I picked her up on my shoulders and I walked out of the pool and we're walking around on the pool deck in thong bikinis with her on my shoulders. So from behind you see two girls just with a string across our backs and a string down our ass. And then our manager somebody came out and we got in trouble and we got them the people, but can I family there? There's kids there, and we're walking out. They were really disgusting.

I feel like you're one of the strongest girls I've ever met in my life, because she this girl just picked me up wash out. Now, granted I was a lot thinner back then, but still you're you're like you're strong, like you got like man strength or something like. I was just like, holy shit, I just I just went underwater, put got you under my shoulder, on top of my shoulders, picked you up, walked up the pool steps and walking around the pool deck with you on my shoulders. It's

just it was crazy. But yeah, there were families there and kids, so I guess they complained that you practically naked, were acting like that we got here. We were disgusting. We were really were And what did we say. We said, well, fuck you then and we come to the beach and well, we didn't say it to their face, but we were mad. Yeah, because we're four hundred dollars a night for this hotel and we can't even wear where we wanted the pool. It's true, we did stay a really nice hotel. We

did that. Cebag always stayed at the nicest hotel. I know. I know. We had a Harbor beach resort down there, what was it, the Marriott Harbor Beach Resort. And wasn't the beach right across the street or something? It was right on the beach Okay, and this is where I stayed last year too, So there were fond memories. When I was there, I was thinking about you in the pool. Yeah, we did have fun. It was a lot of fun. We did vacation a lot. Yeah. Fort lauder Dell was

always a good time. That was the best time. Yeah, that was the best time. I loved the beach. I love, like I said, I love the nightlife there. But we were out of control. Yeah, well we didn't like we didn't. We thought our shit didn't stink. That's why we did anything we wanted to do. So we were in our twenties. I think even you know, I look at you know, these kids today, and they're not celebrities or superstars or anything. They still think their shit doesn't think. It's because the

it's youth, right, it's the youth of today. Right. So we were we were we were just acting our age, but we were disgusting. If we were if we were there now and saw twenty something girls doing that, we would be like, yeah, aren't you ashamed? I would say, your mother, where is your mother? You're a pig, your little pig, I point at her, discussing, Oh my god. Yeah, we were. We were a little bit out of control on those fort load adult trips. But my kids will

never hear these stories. By the way, her mother was an angel and didn't go out and didn't do anything. But God, I wish I was in ECW. That's all I could say. We had a lot of It was a good time, and it was a good time in like. It was never work. Like I always tell people, I never felt like I was at work or at a job because it was always fun. It was never a chore. Even if I had an early flight, I didn't care.

I the countdown was on. When I got home, I couldn't wait to go back, yeah, and see everybody and hang out and work because it was just a good time, man. And that's the one thing. I mean, you know, you worked all over the place, and I've never had that feeling anywhere else. It's never been the same, and I've

never even come close to it. And it was a lot of fun being on the road at that time with that crew because everybody it was kind of like a big happy family and everybody kind of looked out for each other right at like the strip clubs and stuff like that. Yeah, sure, you know, but you know, we always managed to have some kind of fun it. It never felt like work, No, not at all. I

mean when the checks were bounced and that sucked. That sucked, yeah, yes, but we were still enjoying ourselves as much as we could so, making the best of it. Absolutely. But I've said it, you know, I've said it for the last twenty five years or whatever. I've always enjoyed you always. I can't fun. There's not a bad thing entery out of the ring that I can say, you know what I mean. Person only our connection, it's always been strong. I'm thrilled that things seem to be going right for

you because they we're really good right now. Yeah, and I always you know, I say, people want to see you fail? Of course they and it bothers me. And it's like, why would you wish something like that on someone? Because people are assholes. There's so many people in the world, you know what I mean. They don't like to see someone succeed. They like misery loves company, and people love to see people fail. Well I don't. I like to see my friends thrive. And I want you to thrive.

I want you to blossom. And you know you've been caged up for so long, the last I don't even know how many five years of probation in and out for stupid shit. Yeah right, but that's all done. It's all done as they have no control over me, and that can't get in trouble for you know, anything anymore. So it's good. And I'm not driving, so it's not I don't drink anymore. I don't drink anymore drinking driving. So you're focusing on you, Yes, I'm looking I look

at me. You're focusing on you, Okay, Because we've talked about this earlier. I saw a tweet from you that that I'm very intrigued about. I think you know what it is. But if you don't want to, it's about your only fans, because you're back on only fans now. I did only amazing. It's as I did it, and it was a disaster, let me just tell you, because I don't show the goods and people got mad at me, and you know, it was five months of a lot of bagging and a lot of fuck off and it

just didn't It wasn't me right. And but you're you're you're doing wonderful. But I saw a recent tweet looking for co stars male or female? What the fuck is going on? What are you pitching? And is this a ruse? Is this? Is this a gimmick? What? What is? What are you offering to these people? Because you're basically talking to the fans right now, right what is the what is the if I respond and I say, hey, Tammy, I'm a forty nine year old female, what's to those

are the messages I get? Yeah? Well no, I'm just saying what what are you writing me back? What are you offering me? I am offering my members. Well a one member. You have to be a member. You have to be a member. And I'm not going to just pick somebody off the street. I mean when these people are subscribing, you know what I mean. So I'm gonna let one of them have the chance. Yes, okay, so

one person to be in a photo shoot. Okay, not necessarily saying that all kinds of crazy shit's going to happen. Sure be at the goddamn zoo looking at the lions, you know what I mean? Notes? You know, but I think that I think the Internet has taken it and run with it with their own story. It's not like I'm looking for a like sexual co star kind of a thing. I'm giving someone an opportunity to be in

some pictures. It's pretty okay, all right, Look I I well, first of all, this is a great platform to promote it, to get some more members. But I've already been sent some links to some internet sites that were like taking it and running with it, like well they always do, like I'm casting for a porn own. Now yeah, I mean you could burp and they would. They would put the story as you know, likely she's got you know, she's got a disease. Oh my god, yeah, exactly. They

they love to, uh of course blow you up. But okay, so where is your only fans page? Where can they find you? On there? You can go to www dot OnlyFans dot com, forward slash w W E h O F E R Sonny so w W Hall of Famer Sonny. Basically, okay, you want to make it every agent click on a link to get to it and everything. Yeah, and it's one fantastic. At three o'clock today will be the end of my fourth day back on there, and I already have hold on We'll pull it up. I check it

ever so often because it's just constantly growing. I already have one and ninety eight active members. Wow. And I'm not going to tell you how much money has come in. But no, I wouldn't ask. But people know the membership price and if you do the math, you can figure it out. And I'm actually offering a ten percent discount for this first month as like a welcome back kind of thing, just a generous I know you're so generous.

Ten percent off, so for the first month, So instead of the regular twenty nine ninety nine, it's I think twenty six Hold on, I forget already. Oh you could take that three three dollars and go to wah wah and get a coffee or stamp the sun. So yeah, ahogi, yeah, I'm down with that. Well let me see, let mes I forget exactly him. Yeah, twenty twenty six ninety nine. They pay an now instead of twenty nine ninety nine

for this person as well. So this means that if I see you, lunches on you because you're making seventy eight million dollars a month and actually a trip to Hawaii would be on me, right, I wish, I wish, and I have to ask you off air about a booking because you're booked and I just got an offer for it, and I wanted to ask you, okay for what? But I'll do that when we're done. What else is any join the site? Seriously? These people join the site.

It's a lot of fun. There's everything on there, from a casual selfie out at the store at the gym to you know, a little bit more suggestive, yeah, a little bit more suggested. But it's all it's all fun stuff. There's nothing harmful, there's nothing, there's nothing that would be like, you know, oh my god, I can't believe you're doing that. It's nothing worse than Playboy. Yeah, it really if you feel comfortable, right, why not for me? I didn't feel comfortable.

And it's a different situation. I got kids, It's it's different, it's a different dynamic. I I don't throw stones at anyone. You do you make that money? Let's see. I'm kind of an exhibitionist as it is. And you know, I didn't know, I know, mister Saren. Were you mistress Aaron? Can you imagine if she responded to this, that'd be hilarious, probably probably like a crack horn now with no teeth.

Or something like that. I don't know, she's okay, he was really pretty, but no, it's it's just a fun site. People can request custom videos or custom pictures. I have a lot of people asking for pictures on my feet. Yeah, I think what fetish is the most harmless fetish out there. Right. That doesn't offend me at all exactly. So let me tell you. I think my feet are god ugly and people okay, but I don't like my feet because they're

baby pick one up my flight. Yeah, I got my sweatpants on, but you have to pay extra for that. They're big. Oh look at that, they're big. They're nine, they're nine, and they're huge. All you have to have big feet. You got to balance all that height out. I'm not that tall. I'm only five six and a half. I say I'm five to seven. But but in my heels here a lot taller than that. Well, I always had the heels on next year platform, you're up to here. And and then your hair was always you know, my

hair was big, big hair. Don't care. You look like a giant Amazon. But anyway, no, no, no, The website's a lot of fun and I answer every direct message that comes through on there. So it's not like there's a lot of pages out there that these models or porn stars or whoever have that if somebody writes to them, they get like this instant reply back that goes out to everybody, and all they're trying to do is sell

them extra things. Nothing's personal. But with mine, it's basically like they're not just paying the membership price to look at pictures and videos. I'm interacting with everybody. I answer every single message that comes in personally. I answer questions. It's not just you know, like a pre recorded message that gets sent back to everybody as a response. It's everything is one on one and personal. And that's what everybody's been saying that they love my page because it's

the interaction that they get. Yeah, and it's time consuming. I'm on the computer all day. Yeah, it's very time. I mean I didn't have as many members as you and I did it, but I think I was up to like three hundred and something and I was getting I was having to do the same thing, I was answering, and I was always on the phone, always on the computer. And as this it's a full time job. It's all day from when I wake up until I go to sleep all day long. But it's paying off out doing something.

I was getting a pedicure the other day and I'm on my phone answering messages. I'm serious, Yeah, all day things. So it's a total full time job. But I don't mind doing it. It's just fun, you know, just and there's a lot I mean, you get a lot of

creepers out there. I've only had to block five people so far, so while you've only been doing it for four days, this is from last year, and last year I had to block five people because some people can get pretty rude, but mostly everybody's really nice and really cool and they just want that interaction and they just want to get to know you kind of thing. Right,

I think it's great, Hey, do it while you can. Yeah, exactly right, because pretty soon we're going to be in with our walkers and our osage and tanks, and nobody's gonna want to see. Okay, now I'm up to thirteen hundred. I'll show you the uh look back the active right there at thirteen hundred. Yes, so I just I'm at thirteen hundred active members. See this is why she's a bit She's rubbing in in my face just keeps going up as we sit here. It's growing. I'm ordering Listen,

I'm ordering mozzarella sticks with the burger. Because your numbers just went on. I got ready. Do you feel like you have to take bookings at this point because you're doing so well you can literally stay home and never leave your house to make money. Yeah, like last year, well because of COVID, there were no bookings, of course, but I was doing so well with this I didn't I wouldn't have to take bookings. I actually now, I actually started, like it was probably about five days ago,

six days ago. Now, I advertised that I was going to start to take bookings again because I didn't open the site yet, so I just started planning so for stuff like I'm still like, I'm just getting over COVID. I was sick with COVID for three weeks. I'm still just getting over. I'm still coughing a lot of still have a lot of congestion. My energy's not there. So I'm taking the next month to just totally get back in shape because I lost a lot of muscle because

I was laid in bed for three weeks. So I'm going to get back in the gym but still strong. Back on, but you're still strong. So I'm taking this next month to just get back in shape and get totally healthy again. And then my first booking is until August fourteenth. But when I announced that I was going to take bookings again, the first thirty six hours after that, it was just constant emails and bookings and now I have like twenty two dates through the end of November. Wow. Yeah,

it's just insane. It's not a weekend that's free. So so I did that and I was like, okay, so at least some works coming in. And then I was like, you know what, maybe I will because I wasn't going to open the site until like September, until once I got back in shape and everything like that. So I'm totally healthy, and I said, you know what, what the hell, let me open it, see what happens, and boom, it just blew up again. That's wonderful. Yeah, so I don't

even need to take the bookings. But that's exactly before. You know, when I was talking to you, you had told me I don't want to take bookings anymore. I just want to do this right. And now you're taking bookings. So I didn't know where your mind was at. But yeah it was. I was bored and now I'm single, so it's not like like before. I didn't want to

take bookings. Also because I lived with my boyfriend, so I was like doing the housewife kind of thing and love breakfast and dinner every day and go to the gym and do you know the home life. Well, now I'm single, so on board, so I figure out, Yeah, something to do, something to do, go weekends and you know, have some fun. But it will also give me another

chance to promote the site once. Oh of course, you know every time it's done an autograph if they're over eighteen, and I'll give them a card and say, hey, join the seventeen and a half. Close enough, there you go, I'm from eighteen. Thank you. Maybe maybe that one I'm going to text you, but maybe that one booking we can room together? Oh yeah, which booking was it? Because I don't even readn't I think it's it's supposed to be a Nashville one, the have the Hazard Fest? Yeah yeah,

are you definitely doing it? Uh? Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna find out later today and I'll text you and I'll let you know, but I think I'm only for one day, so it would just be like Saturday night if you want to okay, oh yeah, yeah, we can tell them, will ver them together. We'll have fun. If you want to show me, yeah, server, we'll do that. Well. Where people find you on social media? On my Facebook page, of course, it's under my real name, Tamara Lindsich and

it says Sonny in parentheses. I do have a personal page on there too, but that's only for friends and family, and I'm on that page, but I never used Facebook my life. And then Twitter, of course is w W E H H O F e R Sonny. I do have an Instagram page, but I never use it, but I think I'm gonna start. I hate just to promote. I hate it. I don't like me to do it because you you have a lot going on, right, I've been did I posted some pictures and I just I

just never got into Instagram. But maybe I hate selfies. I hate taking pictures. I take selfies all day long. Yes see, I that's that's part of the reason why I hate it. Only fans, because I hate it. You have to keep the content up, you have I give them a fig pictures a day. And like I said, even if I'm just out shopping at the grocery store and my hair is a ponytail, just be like a snap and then I'll pose because they like to They like to see what I do all day long, the

you know what I mean. And then they always get a good morning picture before I even get out of bed. They see me for thing in the morning morning, I look like frozen. Have you seen the movie Frozen? This was this morning's good morning picture that I posted. Okay, now, if you saw the movie Frozen when On awakes up in Coronation Day with her hair all crazy and the drool coming over that, no one wants to see this mug in the morning. Sorry, so I'm good. But seriously,

I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled. I'm happy we got to sit down. It's been a while since we anually really talked, and you got the first podcast I usually get, but you got the first one. I broke the news about how jail's not really that bad. Still like it, You know, it sucks, but when you're there, you just have to find ways to make the best of it. Yeah, well you I'm on the phonel. You know when if I'm not at work, I'm on the phone all day, or

I'll play cards, or I'll watch TV. Oh god, I read thirty two Michael Connolly books while I was there. Who's my able author? But you know, you just like it's it does suck, but you just have to make the best of it. Can you go on the internet when you're there? No, we didn't have internet. Some some places do, but we didn't. Yeah, and you don't have a phone, right, they take your phone? Oh yeah, you

can't have a cell phone, Joe. There's actually but the only thing you can use this old fashioned payphones and they're only like poles and like order that. Like, no, you don't put quarters in. Everything's like like a you can need to call collect or put money on a debit account and it deducts from me. Oh so yeah. It's just a lot of phone calls and a lot of reading and television and if you if you're lucky enough to get a job, that keeps you busy. But yeah,

Jael sucks. You just like like I said, you just have to learn how to make the best of it, right, And then there's commissary food you can order and buy so you can get like food and you can cook and make different things. And yeah, so I did that a lot. I spent a lot of money on commissary food because the food feed you is disgusting. Well you had that, only fans money to spend, so you can buy lobs and jail. It's all good. There's a limit one hundred and fifty dollars a week, so you have

to really be careful. Wow, yeah, but I was. I was ordering like tuna packs chicken packs, making you know, as much as I could doing, you know, doing what you can. We have a microwave so you can cook. So you just got to make the best of it and hope your time goes by fast. But luckily, no more, no more. Okay, Well, I'm going to keep you in check. I know you will. I mean, strict can come out, obviously, but I honestly, I'm thrilled that you're home and happy.

And I just hope for nothing but the best. I hope bigger and better things come. And screw everybody who is a hater, because oh yeah, hey, you know what I always said, I love my haters because they're the best form of free publicity. The more they hate, and the more they talk, the more it keeps your relevant and they don't even realize it. They want to. They can hate as much as possible because if it keeps them talking, it just keeps your name out there. I

got you, and they don't even realize that. The more they if they want to talk shit about OnlyFans or whatever, all it's going to do is spark interest in somebody that hears it and say, ooh, what's this about, and they're going to go on and subscribe. So hate all you want, right, I'm going to have you back on because you and I have a project. I'm not going to say what it is, but besides the signing, we have a project coming off that I haven't announced it

yet because I didn't even read my contract. I don't get either. I'm going to read it tonight. Yeah, let's read it tonight and compare notes on it. But I think it's going to be a lot of fun and we're going to spend a significant amount of times together on that as well. So that's that's a good time that I'm looking forward to. But yeah, it's going to be thank you for choosing us to uh to break the news. That yours is going to be so pissed because he always gets the first one. Jam, Yeah, you

could take the first one. So he's kind of he's probab. I'm probably going to get a text from him being like, well, tell him I love him because he's a good man. But I love you. I love and yes, I know you do. And just stay on the the right path and and do good and be good, and you will get good as long as you don't get behind the wheel of a car. I'm good to Goer is your friend. It's in your phone. Just push the button. You'll be You'll be fine, but take care of yourself. I will

talk to you soon. I love you to death and I love you. I can't wait to see you. I hope to see you soon somewhere I don't know in Tennessee. Yeah, I don't even know when that is, but i'll book it. I don't have my list in front of me. We'll talk, We'll don't worry. We'll get together. But September October one of those I don't remember. We'll get it. We'll get it. Have a great day. I love you and talk to you. Okay, thank you, bye bye. Looks great. You look great. But

does she have to click it off? No, I got it, take care, Nope, you're good. Okay, there she goes, she looks great. Hold on, I got it. It's a report. I don't want to report. I just kicked her out. That was great, now, very cool again. I stayed back because I just wanted you to to discuss. And there was a lot. There's a lot of history, like I said, between her and I and and I don't want people to think that it was every week and we went out and got wasted. That's not what we did before.

Lawderdale was like a special vacation. You always said that, You've always talked about those the Ford Lauderdale. You literally always said this was the spot, this is spot, And honestly, like gimmicks were like I'd admitted, gimmicks weren't my thing. That was the first night I think I ever tried so much. But she gave me like four or five of them. You said that too, Yeah, exactly. It wasn't my forte. But when you mix it with something like a long island for long island nice teas, you're gonna

get a little crazy. But we always had a good time, and I was thrilled to speak to her. So I'm glad you made it. I appreciate you bringing that to the to the show for that's a good one. That was a good one. That was fun. See you see sorry Jim Ross, Yeah, you see Jim Ross. No offense, but what what are you doing for us to take take a seat back there. I love me some Jim Ross, but I had to I had to put my clothes into tammy. So you heard it here first, guys, Oh

my gosh. All right, well we'll wrap up here for today. Just to quick for the Patreon rundown. We're watching Shane Douglas versus Balls Mahoney with a very special uh ACW implication. A historical moment is involved, so that's a part of the watch along. We watched another great like I don't know what you call it, like Thievery in motion being stopped, some like caught in the act, caught in the act, real time videos, and something else that has yet to

be determined yet. So we'll just leave it at that, but not follow me at chat emb Oh wait a minute, and we also have somebody special coming on. We do. We have rob coming on, but I'm not sure if we're gonna drop that for technically last week or if we're doing for this week, so well then we have to do something else that's tbd TBD. So uh yeah, you want to follow me. It's at chat E and B.

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