Scotty Riggs

only Queen of Extreme, Miss Francie. Yes, this is a weird week for us because mister Chad o here disrupted my week a lot with his flip flopping because he had to move. Oh wow, he had to ruin my week and make me work on a Saturday night. So I didn't have it in me to put on a nice shirt. So I'm wearing my Mickey MIAs shirt today. I apologize. I appreciate the accommodation very much. It looks like my nipples are sticking out, but it's not. I have a brawl on. Look at the Do you see that?

Do you see that? Yeah? No, I can't. I see Mickey's nose. Okay, no, you're right, you're my braw pattern. Oh my goodness, Oh it's funny. Oh the drama of being a woman what you have to worry about. My nipples are hard. Nobody cares. No, they're not, though I have a look I have I have a brawl on, so it's not a nipple. What a night for hard nipples? Here as we record on a Saturday, the second time we've ever recorded on a Saturday. I again, I appreciate

the accommodation. It has been one heck of a week end of the week. Specifically, what's this? Oh, it's just a tiny little violin that you're playing for me. I'm not asking for violin, just you know, I'd love for somebody to experience it with me more than anything. Hey, I moved when I was eight once pregnant. No, I wasn't eight month I was. No. I ran the show when I was eight months. I moved when I was like we was I six four and a half months something like that, But I was pregnant. I'm not the

first person to move. I'm not the last person to move. Ahead tell us it's just been you know. So I sold one house the house i'm currently and this is actually the last ever recording to be done in the house. Yeah, I mean, look, you've seen it behind me there it is it's almost done. All the stuff's off the walls, the jerseys, everything's off the walls. My new studio will not fully be ready, but I will be in its

for our next recording. So yeah, well it's gonna be you know, it's the wreck it's the wreck area, the wreck room of my basement that it's going to be where the desk is going to be, and it's gonna be very cool, and it's gonna be finished eventually. But the next time we record, I'll be in the new place. Just the journey to get to here, I had to sell my one house to buy my next house. Okay, whatever, that was the process. We did it. It's all good.

The people who are buying my house, or have bought, which I'm now renting from them until I move out, have been assholes. Oh they have been dickheads the whole entire time as we've been finishing that transaction. The people that were moving into I think, did I tell you this. I'm not going to go into it on the air, but I told you the story behind the house, correct, No, all right, I will tell you off the air. I can't tell it on the air for legal reasons. But

the people were lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely people. Older couple. We went to do, like, you know, the inspection. Whenever we met them, they weren't supposed to be there, but they were. They were very nice. The woman cornered Liz and was like, hey, you know, I would like to leave this stuff for you. She politely just said yes, it was a couple of things. It was a rug sconces and fertilizer for the garden. Right, okay, whatever, she just politely. Liz says, you can tell Liz anything. She

will say. Yes, she's the worst because of that stuff. She said, yes, okay, we go for our preliminary walkthrough the day before closing and we open the door to the house, to the house trash, what dirty, beyond belief stuff everywhere they left, shower curtains, shower mats, stuff and draws,

hair brushes, toothbrushes. Oh everywhere you turned around, dog match dog peep heads in the closet, a bed frame, you know, a headboard, not fertilizer, every garden tool known to man that you could possibly imagine and broken, not like something you would keep, like, oh hey that's a new rate

they left behind. Thanks, you're just trash, trash, trash, And as we're getting the shit sandwich from the new people buy in our house, We're sitting here going like what the hell, Like, what are you gonna you know, what's what are you gonna do for us? Short answer was nothing. They were gonna do nothing. They didn't want to come and pick it up. They thought that that was acceptable because Liz said yes to those three the three items.

They thought they were just being nice and helpful. How are they being helpful by leaving garbage in your house? Pete id's from a dog? Got me? Got me? So said, excuse me, get this shit out of here? Yep, right now, not to mention. The day before our walkthrough, I get a text from my real estate agent saying, hey, the owners would like to see if you would be interested in buying their lawnmower right and I'm like, I politely decline, you know, no, thank you. I looked up a brand

new lawnmower. I can get one for ninety nine dollars at Walmart. If I wanted to write, I could even get the plug plugged in one. Now you know it looks like a vacuumcume your rug with are your garden or grass whatever, and I go there, I go them motherfucking goddamn stupid lawnmower better be in the goddamn garage if they left all this shit here and it wasn't they wanted us. They wanted us to buy a stupid lawnmower,

but left all the other crap behind. Well, now, honestly, is it like appropriate for you to tell your real estate agent, hey, get them over here and clear this shit out of here, like yes, okay, but we did, okay. So it turns out the the old happy couple were are not a happy couple. They are divorced. They show up, they sold the house right, Well, they show up at eight o'clock, except they're supposed to meet my agent at eight o'clock the morning of our closing. We were closing.

It supposed to be at nine. Got moved whatever. They were supposed to meet at eight o'clock. They got there at seven. They still had a key to the house. It wasn't their house anymore. They signed the paperwork the day before, so they go into the house like it's theirs not. They took everything this time, including the Wisconsins and the rug and the stuff. They were gonna leave behind for Liz. The one thing I was happy they left there was a bar that they had bolted into

the floor. You're not allowed to You're not allowed to take anything that's bolted. So I was like, yes, all right, the one thing that I would have like wanted them to leave is still there. So we have this brand new bar area down in our basics. But just like so that my agents like they are pissed. They're so pissed they think that you're ungrateful. They were cursing us

the whole time. Yeah, all my agents like, look, assholes, you guys left all this trash behind, Like missus, asshole, you're being unreasonable and my clients shouldn't buy a house that looks like this, Yeah, exactly. Oh it was just it was brutal. I mean I understand, you know a couple things like you said, but when you get to garbage, when you used pad that a dog pissed all over in a hair brush, I got DNA. Yeah, some toothbrush that somebody used, that's disgusting. I don't want to touch

other people's stuff. A bath mat around the toilet that like little pp dribble could get on. I'm gonna touch that. That is too much. Yeah, it was bad, so you know, all in all, they came and collected it. We had a cleaner at U at eight o'clock this morning, come in and clean. Well. The context of the contract was that it only needed to be broom swept, right, but it wasn't broom swept. There was you could see legit dirt all over the place. They had contract dirt all

over like they there was nothing. So our cleaners come in, right, you pay a pretty penny, they come in and clean. I swear I never seen a bathroom almost do the thing like shiny and doing it now. It was how the house should have looked yesterday. Yeah, sorry, that's that's a disappointment. Yeah, it was bad yesterday. Jada mastiff dog okay, might as well had a bear in the house. And it smells so much like dog. All the windows open, nice little breeze coming off the pond behind the house.

Nice little breeze coming in. You smell dog when it changes directions. Not a fan. Well, let's hope the worst is over. Yes, you know, and you don't find anything else and you have a very happy life there. I appreciate that and extending the invite to the Queen of Extreme Family to Virginia. We finally get an invitation. Well, now I have the whole floor for you. You guys. If there's a kitchenette, there's a bedroom, a bedroom, you got your own private area. You just have a day

have at it. Thank you. Well, we'll see what's what's going on. I'll ask the hope if hey, yeah, I'll try to make it worth your while and find something down here. Well, my sister in laws down there too. Something. Oh that's right, Yes, that's right. I don't know what prob Yeah, proximity from you guys, thirty minutes thirty minutes is it? Thirty minutes from okay, right down Route seventeen. We'll have to figure something else. I'll skipping a jump.

I'm super excited for you guys. I hope it is everything that you have dreamt of, and I hope it's good for the children, and I hope you find new swingers to hang out with, because you know, you make it a little lonely in that new development of yours, so pretty big neighborhood, and you never know, I just got to hang that upside down pineapple outside the house and see who starts knocking on the door. Is that what you do? That is the international sign for you're

in a safe place for swingers. Oh is it my homework? Girl? Okay, I know what I'm talking. Idea. Yeah, no, idea. Well listen about me. This is your platform power. You know. I'm dandy. I'm dandy. I'm well. Uh you know, I didn't have that much of excitement in my house this week as you did. But I'm glad it's the weekend and I'm ready to party. Oh yeah, no, I'm good. I'm good. Just did some work and you know, spend some time with the kids. Same ould team. Weld did

a lot of walking. I have my two pound weights that I put on each hand and I'm like the the mom that power walks through the city and I'm doing that all week. Today I took a rest day. My hip was really bothering me. But uh, you know, we just had a little pizza party and now I'm ready for our guests, who I can't wait to talk to. I've kept in touch with him over the years through mostly through the internet, and I've been reaching out to him and I'm just like I'm extending an invite will

you come on? And he keeps saying yes, but the timing was never right, and our worlds just came as one this this Saturday. So I'm I'm excited to have him on and hopefully I sent him the link, so hopefully he'll be up yet yet Ready. I'm pumped because like the fact that he was able to accommodate, the switch of days was even better Like that, that to me was the best part, because that's that meant it was meant to be. Well, you know, it's funny. Can

you please tell our children to stop? It sounds like a herd of cattle going through my house right now, so it sounds like a parade. Up stare two children running through the hardware course. When I was talking to him, I said, do you need a link for the computer or do you want me to send you a text message? He writes back, send me a text. I don't own a computer. Okay, are you a caveman? What is going on? Yeah, so he's gonna be on his phone for this one.

But I love him and I'm excited. Oh wait, and I got a text message. Link ain't working, he says, what I sent him? The link Okay, let me send it again. America, I'm doing my class part out. If you see him come and better run for cover. I it played at my bachelor party. You were such a freaking mark. Hey, I didn't book the bachelor party. But all of a sudden the music started to play like if it's got their music had a great faded like later.

You know what we need to start doing. We need to start playing theme music when the guest comes on. I would love to if I played it would play over them. But he's got one that I wish I could just play on loop in my brain twenty four or seven. I pull it up right now? Can I play it? You could? Sure? Let me run and better run for cover? American? Mayl hold on, there it is. I'm gonna play it. Tell when he comes on. Nobody yet? Not yet? All right? No, we have an ad. I

hate that head, I know. Hold on, hold on, I'm gonna do it when it comes on. Can you you can edit all this out right? Yeah? I can get it out the filler. Ain't the filler? Come on? I just love that it shows that in a world of cowboy and Eagles fans, everyone can be on the same page. Already football allegiances aside. We can all as one society, be one. I'll get along. Yes, oh my god, for the time being, before this this world goes to hell in a hand basket. Are we going to be in

trouble for playing this song? No, okay, because it is it is his theme. We'll be laughing over it. It's not really going to be caught. You know, if you come to Virginia, I hope you bring a very fuel efficient car. Why not because gas is going to be seventy five dollars a gall Well, we might have to wait till twenty twenty four. That's true. That's true. That's true. We'll see what happened. Or you could take either a Jetson's car, you know the one that goes yeah, or

you know Winston's car where we use our feet. Oh okay, all right, you want to play it, you want to do your music. This is my good friend from the American Males. This is Scottie Riggs. Everyone wait, wait, go ahead through. She wanted to give you a proper intro. Are you ready? Are you ready to come through your current? No? No, no. Not. One of the biggest memories of seeing Mick Foley sing this song one time. It's to you, no, not to me.

It was something on the YouTube thing back when he was in t n A. It was him, uh, Jimmy Borosh Abyss and somebody else, and all of a sudden, the songs started playing the off shore doing the clap and speaking. Day I remember pointed out us, yeah, yeah, hey, this is Mina marcus is expression when we heard this song the first time. Guess what you were my favorite American male And Jimmy Hart was sitting there going, yeah, baby, it's got to divo and where Mark was like, you

don't say again you didn't love the theme song. I thought it was catchy. It was. It was the toughest it it was. We actually did love it. I loved it because it was so cheesy. It just gave us. It gave people something when they heard it, they knew they knew who it was, you know, the one of those on one of those things where like there was like who's coming out now? Soon as they heard they're like America males of course. Well, first, let me just say it's great to see you you too. You look great,

You look great. I didn't dress for you today. I'm sorry. I usually dress for you, though, well I was just gonna say, what the hell are you wearing because you're kissing me off. That's fine. I usually get dressed up a little bit, but because our schedule is so often. It was a Saturday night and I had pizza and I feel more. I wore a big shirt, so iPod and this is not my nipple. This is my bra. Do you see that? It wasn't looking but because what's

it look? Eyes up here, yes, eyes up here. I been looking when you had to point it out for the people American Mail, you had to point out that's not your nipple. It looks it is not my nipple. It is a bra because I you had, but because of American Mail, your favorite, you had to point that out. Well. I also pointed it out to chatter earlier because I thought, you know, if he looked at me weird because it looks like I'm excited. But it could have been because

of Scottie Riggs. Just couldn't have been. I'm sure it wouldn't be the first nipple that popped out after the America. The Queen of definitely signed a lot of booths. Yeah, so Scotty, Uh, what do you want to talk about because I know you've done a bunch of interviews. It's like, how did you get started? You know, when did you break into business? I did that once with you for like two and a half hours to our trip. We interviewed you in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. It was epic.

You made our it was it was an unbelievable experience for me. I'm glad you were there. And that's all I gotta say. I don't want to sell I don't want to sound like a mark anymore. I'll just let you guys talk. No, it's all cool to me. I mean, I'll talk about anything and everything because it's to me a conversation. I hate like doing any Remember I did what was that? Uh? I can't think of the dude's name, the guy who used to come around East w all

the time business inside, Yeah, Finstein. I did his thing and sat there. It was in Wister Salem, North Carolina, sat there in the hotel room and the guy sat there were like three to four pages of this question. It was question after question after and I'm sitting there going and he and noybody thought I was like bragging about our American maleness or flock atrocities or debauchery type stuff. And I was like me, it was the questions the

guy who was asking the question what in't Finstein? It was his helper was asking all these this random gross question rad and all this that going You sure just where you want to ask? Yeah? Yeah, the fans want to know this stuff. I'm like you fans want to know? Do you want to know? You were kind of like putting yourself over for being one of the boys. Basically, well, it was a question that I was being asked you what't like I was putting myself. No, but that's that's

the path that they took. Yeah, yeah, well that wasn't your fault. No, I don't do that here. I let you say whatever you want. But I thought we can talk about the first meeting that we had in ECW because Rob van Dam brought you in as just his friend. Like you came early. I remember meeting you, like, I don't know what year it was, but you came to just visit. That was That was ninety five. Actually, because me and Marcus were the World Tag Team camps, we had a weekend off and I got in touch of

Rob as a dude got weekend off. What are you doing this weekend? And he's like, dude, we're up in Philly, come to the show. So I said, sure, came up there, met Tommy for the first time, met Pauli for the first time over at the Marriotte by the airport and hung with them, got a bite to eat, and they took me to the show. Rode with them over there. I can't remember if rob was with us or not. Yeah, Robin was with us. We all rode over in the

minivan together and that was pretty much. That was like, that was for talking about Minie and Carino and all the guy's nova and you know everyone that was there. I think that was the same night Kimona did her dance broke. Yeah. I remember I was at one of the holes in the wall, going, hey, what's going on with this? And because they were like checked this out and I looked over and that was the first time I met Taz too. But he didn't like me being there.

I remember he had an attitude towards me for some reason. And the only reason I found out afterwards was he he didn't want me to be in the dress room because you thought I was there to take somebody's job. He thought I was looking for a job or a spot or something. I was like, does he not know? I'm like with w CW's in the world. But he was just a little standout. He was the only one. It was kind of stand offers to me, huh, okay, well, what were your impressions? I mean, you know, what did

you think about us? What did you think about the building? Because you hear about this great ECW arena and then you get there and it is a shithole. Yeah, I mean I remember it was like the toilet triver flowing, the floor was wet, the rest room was just a bunch of you know, rooms and whatever with unfinished walls. Yes, all that kind of stuff. But and to me it was kind of cool because it was like it wasn't

because you gotta remember. I was also in Memphis for eight months from January ninety five to August ninety five, rustling six nights a week, sometimes in good buildings like you missed off Coliseum, Louisville Gardens Evansville was a good building.

But then on a couple of nights of the week on Thursday and Fridays at spots shows it would be high school gyms, churches, all kind of just run down buildings that some of the guys would run And so to me to come to y'all's arena, it was like the building didn't matter, but the vibe was so cool. That was the thing. I think. Probably I can see it smirk in your face. Probably everyone tells you that,

because it really it was real. When you walk in there, you felt an attitude, You felt the vibe, you felt an energy that was legit. Yeah, that was the one thing that really stuck with me for the longest time.

Everybody that has worked the arena or been to the arena, you know, you can compare it to like a Madison Square garden or a big fancy arena, But to me, that was my favorite building ever to work in because of the people and like you said, the vibe going in like they were into it from the minute we started to the minute we shut the doors. I mean they they would stay till three four in the morning to get autographs like they were devoted fans and cool. Yeah,

very cool. And you I loved it because, like you know, I think legally, I think we can fit like twelve hundred, but we used to sell. I always say this, we should sell tickets with no guarantee of sight. They were like five dollars tickets, so people can walk in and just stand behind the bleachers. They just wanted to be in the building, you know, and that intimate atmosphere, like you can literally look into the crowd and make eye contact with somebody and just feel their energy, you know

what I mean. Like it was such an intimate experience, and I love that. Without that building, I would love to have said the same thing about Center Stage because it was a small building with y'all fans. It was great when I was there with WCW. They hired models and girls to sit in the audience and dress up the audience. They gave away tickets. So some of the tickets that gave away, I mean, some of it was cool with boy scouts, girls scouts, troops and stuff like that.

But then there were also just people that seemed just to come in from anywhere to sit down for a couple hours and just to be a part of it. Center stage when you have the right audience, which I saw with you guys, because right before I started with you guys in two thousand, I actually went to see the show y'all were doing at center stage right and have been there before with WCW. I sat back and wondered, like I almost wondered, what's the vibe? What's the field

going to be here? And it was the same thing as they you said we were rending because y'all fans just brought it. I mean, that was the thing it went. I'm trying to think was there any building other than maybe one in Atlanta was cool because that building had a history to it. I had a rustling history and I'd actually gone there a bunch as a fan. And where was that at in Atlanta? Omney the omni Okay I had mentioned the Elks Lodge. Do you remember working

in Queens? I don't think I ever did the ox And I thought you, I thought you did work there because we ran there in two thousand. I want to say you did, Scottie, I probably did. I just yeah, it's the same Jimmy Church shots to Rob and broke my nose twice and so I went a lot of my uh my bad memory on him. Well let's go away.

You know, love Rob, but you know I, well, yeah, you're not the first to say that the funny thing was the first time you and Rob met was about ninety three, okay, independence around Georgia and South Carolina, and Greg Price was a promoter that actually put us together after a ben Masters show in South Georgia and Cordel, Georgia, and that was at a skating rink and that place had a real good vibe to it, believe or that back in the early ninetiest ninety two is my first

match for every ninety six of ninety two with my first matches, So this is around ninety three when I started getting branching out, getting booked by other promoters and stuff. And the first time at Rob we got along pretty well. And we were on a show in a small town in Georgia, and I wrestled as myself against Billy Black and like the second match, and then I think Doriy funk Junr Was the main event. I can't remember who he was wrestling, but me and Rob were like the

semi main. So I wrestled second and then wrestled fourth, and I went on and put some like a black geyaw like I was just like a great mood of character. I put a mask on holdline yards Yea and Rob kicked me right in the nose, a little sidekicked. And that was the first time he broke it was in the mask. I remember his blood on the mask everything. And I went to the back and some EMTs came in and checked me out because I saw blood poured out my face, and Greg got the guys come chick me,

took the mask off. The guys like, didn't you just wrestle? For're sure? A good guy said, yeah, that guy pissed me off. That guy with the ponytail, that RBD guy pissed me off. So I put this stuff on the fight him. You see what he did. So I'm even more mad now and then and the mts are like, really, So that was like the first time Rob broke my nose the first and how many times after did he? The next time was in ECW the first time we

tried the vand terminator in Kansas City. Okay, okay, I put my hands up like this, thinking that would be safe, and he hid it and instead of going flat my face, it went points like that came down on me. Yeah, and all I remember is a blackness, then a bright light or no, it was a bright light. Then it got dark. My eyes. Also, I was red. I climbed out. I was crawling down. Here comes Corino and Victory. He was supposed to do like an interference thing. I'm just

crawling past them. I'm like, you guys, go do what you gotta do. I'm out, no joke. And then the next the next taping we did, I think was in Poughkeepsie at that center there and I had a black guys and everything else, and so what they basically did they have the wrestle what me and Karina? They were just putting me and him together, and so we went

up and put the sharpshooters on two guys. I went out with tape on my nose and we put it over because it was there after the pay per view, but it ended up working well TV wise that the fans on my face all busted up after Yeah, yeah, I broke my nose in Virginia because Sandman I had to pull him and I know, I had to grab one of their legs and pull them off the top.

Said man was going to do his flippy flop thing, but instead of going through the table, they went backwards out of the ring and kicked me in the face out and I brew and then I had a spot, remember Chili Willie. I was supposed to run in and cane him, and then we were supposed to do a dance off or something, and I said, we're not dancing, and I just kept hitting him and they had to stick tampons up my nose, I remember, and I had

the black eye gimmick. The next day we had to go to the arena and here I am with these black guys. But they did make up to make it look really, I know. The next night, I can't remember. I think we were in Wichita and I wanted to do something but they were like, nah, no, it's only house shows. My face was all swollen, black and blue hole nine yards, but it was like okay, at least I knew on the pay per view, I went, I did this number to protect my face and my brick.

But he ain't breaking my nose exactly. I thought about it. Have broke my nose like that on the pay per view and it would have been a bloody mess that you know. So he did not make the Elks log show. The Elkslodge show was later in the year, so you weren't on it. So he's right. He did not wrestle in Queen's No No, I just checked the whole entire year of two thousand guys were talking the hell was he?

Where were you? The only thing to think I might have missed that because when we did the Hammerstein Ballroom, this was another time Rob hurt me. We were I think we're a main event or sent my main that night and the first like minute two minutes of the match, we did his uh. We dropped me in the guard rail outside and we jumped on the apron and do the leg spot. He dropped me on the guard rail. He didn't drop me belly. He dropped me. Ribs bruised

like or cracked. Actually I think I remember right, one or two ribs on my side. And we still went another eighteen minutes where everything I did, I picked him up. I remember one time I dropped outside the ring first spot,

so I picked him up, dropped him. I collapsed after everything I did, I collapsed because I couldn't breathe move, and like I said, I ended about I think I had two cracked ribs and a bruised rib and spent I think I spent about four hours in the emergency room that night in a New York City Emergency Room.

But the cool thing was, it's like maybe because they put me in an ambulance, took me there, and probably about thirty minutes afterwards, Justin McCauley came with Rob to the show SVD and Rob came in and they spent the next two three hours with me. They brought my gear, brought me stuff and everything else I can change outup on any tube. I couldn't move, and they were doing all cat scans all this stuff on me because we

flying out the next day. Didn't want me to get on a plane and my liver rupture sure or whatever because I bruise was I think the bruise was on my left side, but yeah, that was something that I think. And then after that, for about the next three four, maybe five weeks, I couldn't work. I couldn't work because my ribs are bad. So you missed it a hundred

percent right on the timeline. August twenty six, two thousand, Hammerstein Ballroom, Rob Van Damn, Scottie Anton, and it aired on September ninth, So that leads exactly to why he missed the Okay, well, hey, that's great, that's what he was still with us. I was like, why weren't you at the show? But I was there. I think I remember Paul flew me into a couple of shows even though I couldn't work do either some running stuff. I couldn't do a match, but I could do some things.

I could be seeing but not good. I could actually do anything. Yeah, I could do the clap. You could do the clap, you know, I could give I could give the clap as we would say back then, not do the clap, but I would give it. Yes, I want to backtrack a minute. So we were talking about the first visit when you came as just a spectator. You were friends with Robin and damn you met everybody at the Vibe school. Blah blah blah blah blah. You were doing great in WCW. At this point you said

you were tag champs. Right, that's a blast. Okay, did you did you look around and say this may be somewhere in the future, I would wouldn't mind working at I mean, I'm sure your pay was better for mister Turner than it was for mister Here's a little fact for you so you won't think that. When they brought me in, remember I was in Memphis making I guarantee

forty bucks a night, working six nights a week. But we always whether if you were like opening match in the car, you might've got like you got if the houses were good, you got bonus money in Memphis. Okay, So about two weeks later, as my first check came in, and I was for the first month, I was like first or second match and sit fans that know who I was type of thing because I wasn't some major guy coming in. And so when I went from Memphis to WCW, Jenny Ingle had been calling me up a

couple of times. I actually put to Kevin Sullivan on the phone. I said, Kevin, you realize I'm here in Memphis making no money, starving. What kind of guarantee can I get to come in WCW. And he basically said, I'll get back with you next week. Everything was a week week week, I'll get back with you next week,

get back to you next week. On everything was happening, and he finally called me up, or was Jane who called me up in Louisville and said, well, we can get you a guarantee of six hundred bucks a week under a ninety day trial basis being Marcus's tag team partner. Like, well, I'm making two hundred bucks a week right now, plus a little extra three hundred bucks maybe every couple of weeks, you know type thing. So six hundred bucks of weeks is a lot better than making two hundred and I'll

be with WCW. You never know what happens. So for the first from August until December, I was making hundred bucks a week, okay, uh as one after World Tag Team Champions, making every Nitro shots, making a bunch of house shows now because we were the World Tack Team Champions and but and I'm making nothing nothing, So don't

say the money was different. Money became different. But for the first four months I wasn't making squat and that actually went until March of ninety six before Bisha finally gave me a raise, wow, which went to fifty grand a year. That my my in ninety six. Yeah and me, I had me and Marcus on every Nitro, every house show because we were the only babyface taxing the ad

until Seiners came in and rewards came in. Nasty boys, you kind of work, He'll face that type thing with everybody, but uh, we were the only good guys they had, so they had on every house show with Heat or with h Dick Slator Buck house Buck, those guys. So I wasn't making any money for about the first year and a half I was with WCW, and then I finally got a nice six figure deal for the last three years I was there. Okay, well you got something. Yeah,

it was nice. Remember we did a toured Germany in ninety six, and I was basically living off either Bagwell or Lex with their credit cards, being able to eat because again I was even at that time making fifty grand a year. When you're on the road have to half the year half the time, you're basically making twenty five hundred bucks, you know, or twenty five grand a year home expenses and road expenses. I was going to say, did did they pay for your hotel and airfare at

least air? Yes? Hotel? No? Ah terrible which could which basically well, the cool thing was being Marcus's partner the first night tro Remember Lex came in on that first night tro in Minneapolis. He was a surprise guy that kind of came in. Him and Sting were friends and Marcus and Sting were friends. So by OUs mosis, I became friends with Alex and Sting and was traveling with Alexis Sting. So they both had the Lincoln town Car, so I was a driver in the car the whole time.

I messed up one to this Sting off if through play golf one day and didn't drive. We were in Orlando and we had night join Tampa and didn't drive. And it was the first like real road trip that I was with those guys. And long story short, Mark got the mark, me both in the back seat. Let's got in the passenger's seat, and Sting drove. Yeah, that face is the face I made when arn Anderson came up to me and ringed me cust me out. As soon as we got the building, Sting stopped talking. Because

we went from Orlando to Tampa. My thought was, maybe they know how to get there, so I'll just let them drive. It's a short trip. Or maybe they're not how to get there quick to the building. All this stuff. Okay, Well, I know Sting was livid. He was pissed. Say get in the front. He didn't say work, he just got in. I don't again, I don't know why He didn't say, Riggs, you're driving, get up here. He just got in. I don't know why, but for some reason he just let

things happen the way that happened. We got to the building and Sting disappeared whenever and I got pulled by Arn Anderson quickly to the office. Nail, well, wasn't the office, it was it was Arn. He didn't go to the office. He was. Arn was like Sting's wrong. I guess he saw Sting was mad or wasn't really talking. Kind of asked was and from what I know is he said, Riggs didn't drive, And a little pissed, Arne pulled me aside,

said do you know who you're traveling with? These guys are the top guys with the company, Sting and Luger, biggest teams in the business, and you are riding with them. They embraced you. They and there was a bunch of f bombs. It's a bunch of you know, every old curse words that could be coming at me. But basically that night, when the show ended, I had got in the keys, pulled the car up to the back of

the building, to the back doors. When they opened the door, and I would already put their bags in the car. I was in there. Car started, doors open. We get in and the nasty boys want us to go to a piano bar for after, you know, for just drinks, socializes in whatever after the show. We're in Tampa, their hometown, their their home. And to make this long story short, we get there. We're driving, we can't find the thing, and we had this little thing going on, like from

playing golf and stuff together. It was like, it's a zany, it's a zippy. It's wild and wacky. It's a little crazy, all these little things that we've seeing each other when something got silly and there, I think Lex with this is getting zany. Marcus, No, it's zippy. This is wild there and went, nah, this is just stupid and staying to set out this belly laugh, just guttural laugh, and he went, I was so mad at you before, but that right there was so genuine, so real that it

wasn't even our game. It was just you right now. So we can't play it. Oh, it's forgiven. We're all good. So it only lasted an evening. The heat it lasted a couple hours. Yeah, that is nothing. You didn't have to go to a wrestler quarter or anything over. We didn't have Russell's Court. No, we didn't have an undertaker who ruled the roost. We just see w CW at the time was very, very cliquish. It wasn't like a team.

It was like you had you know, especially after nightro started and when the nWo guys came in with Nash and Haul, those guys they had their plays. Hogan had his place, singing legs, kind of dressed with everybody, and you had to you know, everything was still very click a shad. Me, Marcus and Lex were like a little group. Alex right work traveled with us, Norton Macho when he

came in to ride with us. You know, we'd all try to carry ran together, but there were other groups just kind of went their way and they carry ran together. It was just friends being friends. But you know, I was one of the lucky ones in one sense, I was making no money for the first year and a half I was there right and the first time we did the Orlando tapings, me and Market stayed at the I think it was a day's in or something where

we could stay get a room. The boys had a room for twenty five bucks a night, you know, twelve to fifty apiece, you know, not bad. Last came to pick us up the first night for our first morning to go work out and then go to the TV tapings and stuff. He walked in, looked at our room and said, you guys are never staying there again. We're like, okay. So the very next time we went there, three months later,

we did every three months or two weeks at time. Uh, let's got a condo, a three bedroom condo on the golf course that we played with that Marriott. Sting stayed at the Marriotts at the big the big ocean front of where. But when he said the big main, the main place, let's got its a condo to stay at and he flipped the bill, all I had to do

was drive. How nice and we played golf together. But so well, your ass never got in the back seat again after that, because yeah, that's what I've never never even the time I drive in Yakoba, Washington and a uh a house show a travel was staying. I was driving the car then, and I mean so we went to the World Card place, I was Sting got keys,

I took keys. I was like, uh, and this was like in ninety seven, I was still driving even years later, even when he wasn't driving, like yeah, wow, never went through that again. So so you know you had you had a good career in w CW Right. It's a good run. Yeah, sure, but their run comes to an end like all of ours do. And what what do you do? Do you pick up the phone? Do you call Rob and say, Hey, do you think I can come down to E C dub and try and get a spot? Do you call paul like how how did

you end up with us? When you did? For those who don't know, I'm trying to remember I was living in Atlanta. Mm hmmm, And I think I remember either I called Rob or Rob called me and said, hey, we're in you know, we're in Atlanta. You want to come to the show, or you want to call him day and you know kind of comes to the show. I never remember. I never asked, hey, Rob, do you think you can talk to Paulie about hiring me? All I remember is going to the show, watching the show.

I think Eric Wattson just started with you and a couple other WW guys. I've been let go that we're in Atlanta. Were either getting try out matches looking whatever. I can either remember Rob saying something to Tommy or Tommy saying something to Rob with Scott Steele, and I can remember Tommy came up to me and said, hey, what's going on with you in w CW till I was done? Blah blah blah, And I said, I got about six weeks of paychecks coming in. Still he goes, well,

when will that end? I said, I think it's like in February, goes you want to start? Then said do what? He goes, you want to start with us? He said, yeah, I'd love to. I mean, it was one of those things where it was like nobody really asked. Tommy just said, you want to start damn right place, right time. That's what it was. I mean, it was really And I think it was just because that that first time I met everybody, I wasn't an ass, I didn't shot as,

I wasn't a jerk, I wasn't an idiot. I was pretty respectful, and I just had always carried that reputation when I get it everybody. And I think that's what Tommy wanted to an address room. He wanted, you know, he knew I could work and I think he thought that the American male thing especially would get the ECW fans riled up, and it did. I remember the first time I carried rob out on my shoulders at the arena. They were they were American mail. You guys, suck but

back your hair riggs. How did the clap come about? Wow? I remember where we were because I loved the I love that gimmick that popped me every time, Like I thought that was so fucking funny. Now the song that Harry Slash made for me that popped me, Okay, because they actually because PAULI actually got him to create an actual song for me, which popped me. Because I didn't know what I was going to use. I remember at the township in Columbia, South Carolina. I didn't know what

ring music I was gonna use. I was working with somebody and a reno writ me with the Ice Ice Baby and then the ice song to do the crap too that dun dun, dun, dun dun, and I came out to that, and I remember is I was like, I didn't know what I was coming out to, but that's what I came out to. But to answer your question, I remember what was it. I can't remember zactly where it was, but paul E came to me and sat me down, and he's the only booker to ever doce

with me. He sat me down and said, Okay, this is what I kind of want to do with it. We're bringing in your Rob's best friend. It might have been at the arena that first time I was there carrying Rob on the shoulders. He said, what I want to do is bring you out is Rob's best friend.

Then I'm going to turn you on. Rob. Some people may see it coming, but it'll be one of those things where we can get you to be a heel because I know you can work well, Rob, I know you worked well before, and to play out the American Mails because I know you can work. But your character is kind of weak. And that was one thing. I didn't really have a persona. I didn't have a character kind of like you were a Queen of extreme. I didn't have that. Rob was a whole effing show and

everything else. I never really developed that. In my time. I developed great ring work. But in that time, even the good time I had in w CW, I was American Mail fluck and then the guy with the mirror, which I hated, but it was one of those things that I wanted to keep the eye patch and be a snake Clifkin type thing like the iPad. I wanted to keep that. Terry Taylor went, nah, I want you to, you know, lose eye patch. We're gonna make you a good We're gonna make you back to a pretty boy

and make you a bad guy from the rooster. Okay, thanks Terry. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I had he with him a bunch of times in w CW, but other stories I'll tell you a little bit maybe, but Paul Ye basically sat down. So we're gonna do this. We're gonna turn your rub and what I want to do is get the clap going. That was one thing that separated you and Marcus was a clap and we could say that you're giving the fans the clap, and I went, I had almost the same look with Jimmy Hart and

the ring music. I was kind of like, going, clap its brilliant though, but after but my first thought was you know, the st D thing, and then I started thinking, but my mentality was w c W still in a cent of like character, I went, that's really probably gonna get some good steam here. And I went because I because I started again learning of the fancy. I remember that that that first time you were around the fans,

you feel the energy they give you. When you actually getting the ring in front of them, you really feel the energy that they have. Sure, just being in the arenas as a fan, I saw it, but to feel it when I carried Rob out again. The fans will giving me the old American males. Y'all suck, but forgot your hair rigs. This kind of thing I can, yeah, exactly, that was the thing I kept here. I'm glad you hear da da dah and uh. But then you know, Paul,

he was liking. He goes, I know your work let you over, but I know we would give you the clap that would really get over. And then we're going to do this and this will we maybe put you a karina. We'll have your heel do this, And he actually laid out about a six month plan of what could happen and how the clap came about and everything. You'd be so egotistical with it, he goes, and that will give you something that fans will either love or hate, and they'll be back and forth. You can maybe turn

your baby face. Can you imagine, like with al Stow with the head when that became baby faced, all the mac and heads are out there, He goes, can you imagine all the e W when you get them doing this? That'd be insane? Didn't that make you feel good? Though? Because he here you are, your first night in and he's laying out a six month plan. Yeah. He was the first promoter, booker, yeah, boss, whatever you want to call them, who actually sat down and said just what

we're going to do. Because like when me and Marcus were became the tag champs, they put us together. Our first match was gets Regal and eating and they made me look like a tenure veteran. Tag match was great. They were so they were so professional, made me look good. Of course I could do it anything they asked me to do. And then it was the and that was like August, the last week of August when we did

those tapings there, we did like two matches. Then we did a video with us on horseback that never got used. Then we did a couple of other things. We got to Atlanta, we did a video in black and white that you saw with the at the Furback Museum. So they started spending all this money on us about you know, with these videos and making our characters look good, and

then they put the tag straps on us. But nobody really told us about tax traps until the night of the Fallborough pay per view when we worked the Nasty Boys, So nobody was telling us about anything they were going to do. Yeah, So it was like, no, this is w c W, a big time company like you said that Ted Turner company, and no planning that they actually

told usamething that was going to go on. Yeah. And then like when I worked Marcus at the pay per view that sold out, he turned on me, became buff I found out I was dressing him the pay per view from his girlfriend at the gym up to me and said, oh, you and Marcus are gonna have a hell of a match. I'm like, what do you mean, because you're wrestling them at the pay per view? What did tell you who Marcus? He went at the gym yet, I think because she came in, but he had to

have known before that day at the gym. I have no idea. That's weird. Really, I have no idea. When he found out it might have been the same day. He hadn't gotten touching me yet, and I think the

pay per view was only like maybe three away. I was like, really, all I knew was he turned on me that night in Tampa And that was a fly by Night Decision two where he was supposed because they had had us doing all these little goofy spots where he kept bumping to each other, screwing up matches, screwing up finishes, causing each other to lose matches, back and forth, so people knew something was going to happen, but not

really anything of consequence yet. Yeah, and so that night in Tampa, I was supposed to cause Marcus to lose the Steve Rigal on a TV title match, but Nash came in and said, no, we aren't doing that, Mark, You're becoming the nWo tonight. So Kevin Nash came in

and scrapped everything. And that was a paid back to Marcus for being able to when Kevin Nash was doing ODZ and Vinie Vegas and stuff, Marcus and then we're travel makes Marcus was making like one fifty year and now she'd making like seventy five grand a year, and Mark helped pay travel expensis kind of me. We became partners. Got you when Nash came in, got a little bit of a rug, a little bit of control and stuff like that. Said Marcus, you're the first guy turning bringing

in them. It worked out good for both of us in the sets. Gave both of those pay per view matches against each other. The kind of elevated both of us a little bit. Yeah, gave was something to do when they really weren't doing anything with us. But yeah, going back to Paul, but yeah, when Paul sent me down and said just what we want you for six months, that made me think this guy's really you know, he didn't just bring me in to use me for whatever. He brought me in with an idea. Yeah, very cool,

you see. And I like that because we had on Luke from the Bushwhackers and his story. Because they did like a double shot with us, like for a weekend or something that that had to be a blast. Oh. They nice guys, but when they came in it was instant heat because they came in as Dudley's and they wore the shirt and they got booed out of the building.

But their their concept was they thought they were going to be mainstays, and here they Paul said, oh, we're not going to use you after this or what however, he told the story, but Luke was under the impression that they were going to be like ECW people now Wow work with us, and he had no clue. So when they came in, they thought they were going to be with us for the long haul. And here that we go on tour wherever we went the next week and he's waiting for a ticket and there's no ticket.

So Paul saw something in you for sure, because that you know, that doesn't happen with every single person. Well, Plus, he put me against Rob and me with Rob. Plus we had a legit friendship for years already, and people knew of it at least a little bit here and there along the way. We didn't have the Internet back then, but you still people knew that we were friends. God yeah, real, for real. I don't think a lot of this would

have survived back in the nineties until now. I think that's why all the guys play video games and stuff now instead of being the idiots we were back in the nineties. Different world today, much different. The American mails have been canceled for Sure Culture, I would love to hear so much more. We're gonna have to have you on again. But I do want to ask you, will you stay with us and do another segment for Patreon? Sure, I'm telling me, sure, You're Your pointing is so perfect

on the screen. Mind's like I was pointing to you. We're gonna stay and work with him. But I want to tell the people, are you doing anything these days? What are you up to? Where can they find you? Give everybody a little insight on what Riggs is doing today. Rigs ain't doing too much instead of being retired. Okay, Well that he made investments with a little bit of money he had going on time. He made the right investments.

When he got divorced, he had the wife all the property, and one sense, you can have all the gimmicks, all the stuff as long as you don't take the money. And she went yay and I went bye. I enjoyed right. You're on the beach or you're near the beach, because every time you post the picture, I get so pissed. I'm like, look at this guy. He's on the beach. He's showing sunsets. The weather's warm, and I'm freezing pretty

much on the beach. Yeah, I kindose like with about a nifelow walk over a it used to be through the dunes before they put the little walkways up there. But okay, about about fifty yards from the beach, living large. Okay, well, where where can they find you? If people want to see your sunset pictures? Where you're out on Twitter? Uh? Just on Twitter real Scottie Riggs. Okay, got the little

blue check mark? You should get one sometime. I don't know why I have been trying, and Verified is like, nope, we're not verifying any That makes sense because you're I remember the first time I want to saw you on there, and all sudden you had like maybe a couple of thousand followers. You know you had ten thousand followers, you know you had thirty I'm like, man, she blew up quick. I only joined like three years ago because I was doing one of the Rustle cons and they're like everybody,

Daphne Shannon. She kept telling me you have to get on Twitter because when you do, you know you're coming back. Because I had taken like the longest hiatus to have my kids and stuff right and She's like, you got to get back on because you have to promote it. I said, no, one's gonna want to follow me, and oh my god, ding ding ding, and I was I started to cry because I was like, oh, I'm so old, Why are they? Why are they following me? You know

what I mean? But I've been on for three years and they won't verify me, and I just I don't know why. Well, the only reason I got verified wasn't because I was Scottie Riggs. It's because I actually had a pretty good agent from score Sports and they're not even on Twitter anymore. That all remember is the first person that kind of wrapped me from there didn't do anything for me. The next person who read me. I asked her once and she said, oh yeah, I'll take

care of that in the heartbeat because I was. I was very fun. Their little thing, which is like a score Sports was like an Instagram thing you could post pictures, but it was all athletes that I was doing. And she got me verified on there within about three weeks, and that was the only reason I got verified. I've been trying. Believe me, I have one more source that I'm waiting on and if she can do it for me,

then perfect. If not, I will never I know there was a guy who got the Bobby heenan fake account that got it verified and I asked the guy about because I asked the guy would try to get you verified? And he said that getting to Bobby heenan fake account verified cost him his abilities because he went to bat form for whoever he knew through Twitter, and when they found out it was a fake account, it wasn't the count and they say shut it down. He goes, made

that cost me my connection. There's people on there that that are fans that that are not in the entertainment business like they have. They have two hundred and eighty followers, they have a blue check mark, and I was just like, Okay, good for you. But yeah, I mean it's it's goofy. But again, that's that's the one cool thing about getting that done. I've been on I got on like about the time I got done with Facebook. I got on Twitter and that was thanks to RVD. I do think

it was back in twenty twelve. Oh. I mentioned something to Amy. He told me, he goes, dude, get on Twitter. MI, what's Twitter? Yeah? I said, I what was I going to At the time, I was changing shitty diapers and you know, taking care of the kids. Like, what am I going to tweet about? I just changed another poop diaper? Like, what's to read that. I wasn't in the business at that time. I wasn't doing anything professionally, so I didn't think I needed an account. You know, there was nothing

to tweet. What am I going to tweet? I mean that that kind of what I do. I did for for a while there. Like you said, I did a bunch of interviews and stuff like two Bad Power Trip and everything. When I first got on there. Yeah give them, you know, I give some props. But when I first got on there, it was like I had the same thing,

and so people started to ask me. All I got questions all the time by American mails or flaught the iPads is sitting the other And so when people first and Dreamer and Dustin Roads and Van Dam and all the guys that were Habou check marks and knew who I was, a legit guy started putting out this real Scott of Reiges is the real guy. Yeah, give him a follow, right, That's that's what I had to do because nobody believed because I had been gone for years

and nobody believed it was me. And I was like, get it, it's kind of me, you know, by check mark or not. I'm out there, I'm trying. I'm hustling. You know, we're all carmies. You're working, you're doing good, you're kicking working. We're working. But we're gonna keep working. We're gonna keep you with us. We're gonna go to our Patreon Chad, what are we doing this week? So we are going to look at some of the worst

places to get caught having sex. So I think one of the American males is a great person to be joining us on that riggs. If you would like to, and if you wouldn't you you are allowed to keep your mouth shut. But it's a list and we're gonna go yes, but don't say yeah, come to Patreona. But other than that, we're going to run some classic Patreon this week. Because of my move, we got to cut our recording session a little short, so we got some of the best I'm picking the best in the business

that we have. Camera. Now, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good. You get we I can hear you better than I think ninety five or ninety six percent of the guests we've ever had. I found ridiculously good. So barely hear you too, and that's why my face is so close to the screen. Turn your volume off all the way up. Don't worry about it. Don't take her with anything. He get a computer, don't worry about it. If you want to follow me, it don't happen. It's

like you didn't need Twitter. I don't need a computer. What not get a computer for? I have an iPhone? True, I didn't get that until three years ago. I got you all right. If you want to follow me across the board on social media, it is at e c W daver Francine, join us on Patreon. Mister Scotty Riggs will be with us. And with that, that is a rap.