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RoadKill shoots!

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When you talk about rare guys you don't hear from much from ECW, Roadkill has to top the list. When you hear what he's up to these days, you will no doubt smile as he embarks on a new career journey that may peak many of everyone's interest. But if you want some RAW and REAL stories of ECW and WWE-ECW, this episode is right up your alley as Francine and Roadkill hold absolutely NOTHING back.



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All right, let's get it going right here and right now. This is Eyes up Here. You're listening to a brand new Eyes up Here exclusively on our Patreon channel and also simulcast on the Creative Control Podcast Network in audio form only. And he didn't know by now. My name is Chad and every single week I'm joined here by the host of the show, the one that Eyes up Here was named for, the great Queen of extreme fancy. That's me. Hello, how are you lovely? I'm doing great, fantastic, fantastic.

I am sleepy, but I am here and I'm ready to rock. You're a sleepy bee. I am a sleepy bitch today. Yes? Is that what you I just say, sleepy bee? I don't know. It can be give you a literal B if you wanted it to be. It could be a letter B. Slippy bitch. Yeah. I'm not going to be in a bitch mood though. I'm going to be happy and cheerful and ready to go because we got a st show today. We do. We have a stacked lineup. You know, our recording lineup is stacked.

We have a stacked show. There's a lot of stuff going on. It's a good week though, I'm very uh, I'm very happy to be sitting in a chair just because for me, you know, and you it's Friday. So every time I sit down, I just know after we're done, like the day is almost over. Oh yeah, I love it. I don't know if you can see this. Look at this catatrophe. Oh okay, I have three band dates and they're all falling off. Oh what'd you do? Uh? So I was cooking last night and I was using tongues

and they were metal tongues. And when I squeeze, when you squeeze the top, you know, to close them. My finger got between and it was really sharp in the middle and I took the chunk of my tip of my middle finger off. Ouch. Yeah. And I was bleeding. My son was subtled down. I'll live, you know, but I was trying to it was bleeding a lot, so I had to stop the cleaning. But I'm like, oh my god, this band aid is just the ugliest I got three. That band aid looks like it seemed like

better days, you know what. I've wore it in the showers. Oh that's the end of them. And I forgot to switch it before I came down. I didn't even put my wedding ring on today. I was just running a monk so, hey, I'm single today. I rarely put it when I'm just like around the house. I don't put it on because it either it bothers me. And since I lost all my weight, I've had instances where if I go like this, you just go. When you do your single ladies dance, you see the ring, just go,

you know, on the side of the room. That's hilarious. Yeah, I usually wear mine for air, but I ran downstairs so quickly I didn't put it on, so you know. But I do have some bling on my shirt, very blank, very blink for the for the for the viewers who but you don't see it. It's not all right, you can't tell there's bling, Okay, all right, Now I can see it better. At first, I couldn't really see it. Now I see it much better. Yeah, this is unnecessary. I wish this wasn't here, and it was just yeah,

I couldn't and all I noticed was the zigzag. I didn't really notice the little frillies there. Yeah, but it's it's a cute little shirt. But I had to put a brang on because you know, the girls were ready to go. I mean, you know, I don't really I don't know what the problems are. I don't really sympathize, but I can, you know, empathize at least you guys are so well. You have that thing hanging between your legs,

so I guess it's a Yes, it is. And it's tough to put on a pair of tight jeans, sometimess jewelry. Who you know what I used to and I didn't realize it now. I mean I used to wear very like loose jeans, like I wouldn't necessarily say bad. You know, I wasn't walking around like Djenko skater jeans, but you know they were. They were bigger man. I swear the tighter or the longer, the older I'm getting, the tighter my jeans are getting with me because I'm like, I

can't wear loose jeans. I feel like I'm like like swaying in the air. So I have like the most form fitting jeans. Now, do you wear skinny jeans? Yes? Oh, look at you. In fact, I will point this out to you. You may not remember this, but when we last were in the same room in Richmond, I actually had on a pair of skinny jeans. I wasn't looking at your jeans. It's okay, it's okay, hey, eyes up here for a reason. But that was And I just

put those jeans on two weeks ago. I think it was like the first time I wore them since Richmond, and uh, yes, I and I'm not I'm not afraid to say I look good at them. So well, I'm wearing proud jeans. You look good in something you should, you should. Definitely, I'm all about the jeans. I love wearing jeans now. Granted didn't wear them for like five months with Corona, but well, I haven't worn jeans in a long time. I am a sweatpants kind of girl,

especially quarantined today. I have one boxer shorts. Oh, Missy Hyatt these shorts years ago when she worked at the China Club in Sarasota, Florida. Interesting, Okay, they don't really match my shirt, but they're comfortable and nobody can see my bottom. So yeah, I got my shorts on. But it's forty eight degrees outside. Oh my gosh, is it really? Yeah? It's chilly up here. Did you have the like insane heat earlier in the week. Okay, Yeah we did. Yeah.

We had three days in a row where we went on hikes and went went walking and it's just beautiful, beautiful weather. And I'll tell you funny story real quick. We went on a nature hike, all four of us, my husband, myself, and my kids, and we went to a park that's a ways out, so we had to like drive to it, you know, And when we pull up, there's like a bunch of cars. So we brought our mask but I was holding them because we're outside, and I figured, if we don't see anybody, we don't need

to wear our masks. And we're on a trail. We're walking, and this couple's walking toward us. Our kids are on My son goes people people, and I said, it's okay, but it's okay, and you know, they just like kind of moved over. We knew there. But I said to myself, what kind of world do we live in that we can't even take a walk and my kids are scared of people being near us, you know what I mean? Like, oh, I hear you to that. So I just was laughing.

I was like, what the hell we we When we went trigger treating one of the kids that was with us trigg or treating. We were. We got to a crosswalk and my older daughter reached out her hand to say, I'll hold my hand cross the street. And the kid goes Corona and she's like seven years old. She's like Corona, and I was like, Maddie, just leave it alone. I was like, it's okay, just how she'll stand. She's standing close to us, but we can't touch her. So it

was funny, but it's so crazy. So how was the hike? Did you? Did you get up those hills the night before? I took a horrible bump. I yeah, I did my only fans live stream and then I came up. It was about seven thirty at night. My husband has made a I think I told you his gym. You've seen pictures of it. So he keeps adding to it. And he bought these mats and he put them in our den, and our den our half is hardwood floors all through the you know, I guess it would be the main floor.

And he had these mats young and then he moved them to the garage where the gym is the in law suite and I come walking up the steps and socks right and I go in the den to use the bathroom and I slide, literally slide, and I fell so hard you can't see it, but this into here was all bruised. My knee was swollen, and I was I'm all bruised on my left side from the way I landed. And I was shaking like it was a hard bump like on wood, you know. And I went

and I got two ice packs. I just put one on and I was just sat there for an hour and I was just you know, my husband had this scrape my I couldn't move my neck. Oh. But I said to myself, it's such a beautiful day, I want to do the hike. So I was fine hiking, but when I came home, I was sure. I was like, I'm feeling my age here. You know. You know, you talk about you're retired from active competition, and I feel like you need a built in crowd noise in your house,

being like she's hardcore, She's hardcore, dumb. I didn't want to do that. It wasn't a planned spot. Let me tell you. It hurt like hell and I'm still suffering from it today. Like, you know, I really need to find a new chiropractor. But yeah, I fell really really hard, but I was able to walk, like for three days we walked in. Now the last three days have been rainy, so we haven't been outside. But you know, so let's see what what's to today's Friday? I Wednesday, That's what

I called. I called you Wednesday when I was in the car. I drove to Virginia Beach on Wednesday because I had some business to attend to. And when I left my home it was torrential downpour like like Wizard of Oz End of the World. It was dark, it was it was bad. Of course, it all started the second I pulled out of my driveway. It always will, you know. Followed me to ninety five and then down ninety five to get to the Richmond area. You make a left head to sixty four east, so I get

into Virginia Beach. You know, I was at a very nice day spa resort. It was very nice. This was the view at the place. Oh wow, do you see what the weather looked like? It was blue skies, beautiful and beautiful, warm, with a hint of a breeze. Is that weird? An hour and no, two hours and twenty minutes away from home. It's so weird in the same state. Yeah, the nature is a crazy thing sometimes, but yeah, that's a beautiful pit. It was funny because so this the

resort is called the Founders in Okay. Their claim to fame was that they had a swan on the grounds of the spa named Abigail. Okay. So I've been going to this place for like twelve years, you know, on and off cover couple of years ago, and you know, the kids got to know the swan. They know the swana. Where's Abigail? Where's Abigail? So I was doing my business at this place, and it was one of my autograph signings. I don't want to make it sound like it was.

I thought, you're just going for a massage. No, no, no, no no. I was doing one of my autograph signings at this place, and uh, my daughter goes, hey, could you get a picture of the swan? So I go, of course, I will love Abby. She's great. So I go to the desk. He said, hey, you know I'm gonna be here and you're doing my thing. I'm just gonna go outside and take a picture of the swan, you know, And she goes, oh, no, the swan has passed away, Agail rest in peace. And I said, oh,

I go, so you guys have a new swan. She goes, No, it's actually illegal to own them now, So I was like, well, would you kill the damn thing? So I would like you to start the introduction process because our guest is ready to join. Just texted him. He's so prompt. Again another good friend of mine from my ECW's we've kept in touch. Uh. He is hilarious and he is uh the homish one road kill. Look at that handsome man. Hello, listen, I just put you over and you didn't even hear it.

It was epic. I'm homish, so I have technical difficulties. I'm the ships. I'm sorry I said I called you handsome pop fork. I appreciate it. Yes, how are you, my friend? I'm doing all right. How you guys doing to sport? Yeah, we're awesome. Happy Friday's thirteenth? Yes, it is Friday the thirteenth, are you No? Everything's a work. All of life is a work. I love Arcade, everybody full of vitality and energy. ArKade. What was your nickname for me? Uh? Bc DC Big Cans And I always

go like this, here I go. You're going to ragins. So you see why we have the name of the show. Now right eyes up here, you get the whole, the whole deal. We are here. Oh fantastic, And they're rail Now they're real. Now they're always real. No, no, no implants. They're both busted. Oh it happened to ring or you fit them or whateppened. Well my kids did bite them, but no, I ninety seven. I got them. So over time they kind of deflate, I guess, and you're supposed

to get them every ten years. I've deflated since ninety seven. To have you a little, a little bit, not much, just a little. I went for Mama Gram and they ask you, like, do you have breast implants? And I go yeah, And the lady goes, we can't find them, and I go, what do you mean? And she said, they're not there, And so they put your boob in the machine and they squash it and they sqush it and she says, both of yours have ruptured. And I was like, oh, okay, they were or were they They

were sailing, So you can leave the bags in. It's not harmful. Like you don't have bags. You don't have to remove the bags, you just leave them. But I was like, oh, but now I think my boobs are bigger than when they were fake because I gained a bunch of weight and your lucky husband. Okay, so anyway, let's talk about you. I have not seen you since uh well, yeah, we saw each other not it was it last year, two years ago. I think it was. It was the gimmick where we did the reunion. We're

not sick, Yeah, you got sick. You're out drinking the night before up the time listen. I had three no time out, I had drinks, no bens uh backwards, Tony just texting. No, I had like three drinks, but I had food poisoning because I was vomiting and diarrhea at the Wow all night long. All night long, it was like the Exorcisting. And then Shelley started vomiting. I said, it's like the Exorcist. Oh yeah, I was. I was probably Yeah, I was met. And then it turned in

a stand by me. Yes, you know, it's just that's seen a stand by me the pie eating contest. I boom, yeah, that's another movie I've never heard. There's a there's a gimmick. Pie eating contest and one kid eats so much he gets sick and starts puking, and then everybody starts puking. Yeah, but Shelley goes that's all I heard, and I said, are you dry heaving? And I couldn't even walk the straight line. It was horrible. Why does this exist on videotape?

Because that would be well I was blocking. I loved the whole weekend, but I didn't love that because I couldn't even seem to get my freaking camera. But thenwhere But I was in my hotel room. It was one in the morning, safe and didn't go out. No, I didn't go in. I went to dinner. Okay, I went to dinner. I had a couple of contails at dinner.

That was it. It had to be food poisoning because I got sick and Shelley got sick, and we both had these garlic mashed potatoes and we were the only two at the table who ate them, so we think it was food poisoning. But we were both vomiting. I had diary. I think Shelley might have diary too. She had a four o'clock flight in the morning. But I

had to do the gimmick with you. And I just remember saying, they're all going to think I'm on drugs because I walked in like the hottest mess you've ever seen. We all know you were never on drugs. Out of all, E w one of the people that weren't on drugs. I know, well I know, but you know, you don't know what the fans thinker. Who cares? Guy? Who cares? They listen, they have no bearing on her life at all. They have their opinion. And he's sitting there and he's

got I love it. I'm gonna say it because I know you don't care. Yeah, We're sitting there, we're taking pictures and every time someone would leave mark Mark Mark. That is not nice. But I'm trying. Yeah, but they don't. They don't know, they don't care. They didn't hear it. They don't get its show. We're all marks. That's where we got in the business. But tell me, tell me why you got into business. Let's rewind and stop talking about my diarrhea. Let's talk about yes, onto a solid matter.

You so so was Team TAZ and you're was that the first time that you were training or did you have experience before this whole. No, we were myself, Danny, Chris Chetty, and uh the infamous Tom Marquez were all trained at the school House of Hardcore. We were trained by Taz and Perry and we had no experience anywhere else. I mean, Chy Cheddy had the amateur background, but I went directly to that school and I was completely homegrown.

And we started with Team Taz and then we were doing Team Tas and ring crew and then some nights we do Team Tas and then work a match and then break down the ring drives the next town. But I'm completely easy w homegrown. Yep, me too. Okay, So that's interesting, sip. The Cans not homegrown own a homegrown back then, they weren't. You maybe leave my train of thought. Yeah, sorry, that's okay. Growing up wrestling fan, always child. Yeah, my

grandmother got me hooked. My Polish grandmother got me My grandma. Yeah, they came over. She came over from Poland and lived like a half hour away from me, so we would go and visit on weekends, and on Saturday night she would my my family would go to sleep and she would wake me up to watch wrestling with her. And her favorite was Ivan Putski. Obviously it was Polish power, but she liked the old baby face. So I remember her talking about like Tito Santana and Tony Goria and

I Putski of course. And then and then it just hooked hooked me from there. And then I would just I was all, w WF how old were you? Uh? I'd say I was born in seventy six. I'm forty four now, so I couldn't even tell you it was. It was though, yeah, but she got me hooked real early. Is gonna be That's gonna be like eighty three right around there earlier. Well, that's that's what got her hooked, she really, but I don't remember seeing him. I remember

that being like her favorite because it was Polish. Did she get to watch you wrestle? No, they had passed her, and my grandfather had passed way before, but I know they know, yeah, yeah, that would have been a kick. Though. I always say my grandmam loved it too, and she obviously she died when I was seven, so that I wasn't wrestling. I had this, I had this thing pop in my head that it was one match. It might

have been like Hammerstein or something. I envisioned them in like a booth like stalin Waldorf, like uh from the Muppet Yet like my grandparents was watching it like like so cute. Yeah, that's that's how I envisioned them watching me on like you know Beyond, but I know they know, yeah exactly, act, well that's that's cute. So you're a fan growing up, you get anymore, But yes, me neither find out. You get into the school, and I know because I started with d C. Dub in ninety three,

but the school was much different. The school, I want to say, the school was a little more laid back than the way Taz and Perry ran the school. Because my coach was JT. Smith is awesome. He's one of those un sung guys. Was a nice guy, but he's not like he wasn't like a drill sergeant. You know. I'd be like, oh, JT, I'm a period today. I don't feel good, you know, and he's like, all right, well we'll work on something different, like I didn't have

to go, you know, let's let's do promost today. Yeah. If I said that, the Shazzi probably bought me harder. Yeah, probably, what what I know? Were you now? I'm just using that as an example. But were you ever, like, did it ever get to the point where you said to yourself, this isn't for me, I'm gonna quit, or did you just say I did take a break break because I had heat. There was one point where Taz sent me up to get his check and the check for the

for the school. It was I was supposed to bring Taz a blank Taz his his paycheck and Mikey Whipwreck a blank check for the electric bill. So they sent me up to Poll's. I went to went to Paul's. I didn't even see Paul. I just went to the mailbox, took the envelope out, and I was thinking there was two envelopes, but there was only one. So I opened up the envelope, took out the blank check, and drove went to Taz's house, left the envelope in his mailbox.

By the time I got to Mikey's house, Mike He's like, what did you do? Would you? Taz thought, I looked at his check because you opened the end because I opened the envelope. Look, do you go to jail with this kind of stuff? The mail exactly exactly. I was like, I was like, you know, what maybe I just need to take take a summer off and be twenty one and I'll let you know when I want to come back. And that was it. That was like it was the weekend after the pay per view in Atlanta, so five, No,

it was it was later than that. It was ninety seven, ninety eight. I took a summer off. Yeah, I took a summer off to beat because I started training the school in ninety six. What did I think you were there before then? Ok, ninety six and when the school opened, Yeah, I started. I started March in ninety six and my first match was October in ninety six against taz Lulu Temple. Okay, so for the check maybe, no, that was that was before he did have time to receive me for the check.

Because I took the summer. It was summer. I was twenty one, so whatever the math was, I guess that I'm forty four now, so whatever however that works out. So I took you summer off. I did manual labor. I did like I was doing masonry work, you know, sending bricks up, a scaffold, building scaffolds, earing things down for the summer, getting in shape, and then I contacted them. I said, I want to come back. Oh no, no, man, we'll have to see what talking the rose to the

boys super want you back. So I remember I started coming back to school and working out, and there was a loop in Queens. It was like Queens and Irena, and I said, you know what, I don't want to come back there. I'll come back next week in Alabama to show them that I really want to come back, you know, because Queens and Queens and Queens of Philly is easy. I drove to Alabama to show them that I really wanted to come back. I was just coming back for the easy loop. You know, did you drive

by yourself? No? I think it was part of the ring crew again. Okay, so you had the truck these guys or the r kvs. It's called I have to put you guys over because we have I've had so many easy I will I had so many a CW guys on here, and Mike was one of them. We

talked about ring crew. When I tell you the dedication, I mean, I know part of it was they had to do it because it was part it was part of their d But my god, I used to feel so bad because we'd get there and they and we got there pretty early and they'd already be there for hours, just driving through the middle of the night setting up. They had to work, they would have to wait, they'd have to break it down, drive to the next town, and I would I remember always saying, did you guys

get any sleep last night? Or you okay? Did you eat some breakfast? Like I felt so sad for well, guys, Well you should have felt bad, because that's us paying our dues. That's just coming up. But I and that's that's also how we gained the respect of everybody in the locker room because they saw how hard, how hard we were working, and we didn't complain at all. So a typical day, we'd get up, go get some breakfast,

then we drive to the building. So we'd have to beat the building I think by like twelve or one o'clock the latest, get and get the ring set up in case people want to work out whatever it's something breaks, we can fix it before way before the show, and TV was definitely twelve o'clock. Sometimes in the area, we'd get there ten or eleven. Yeah, I remember, I remember like the day we did the barbed wire for Saboo. We met him at the arena and he showed me

how to set up the ropes how he wanted him done. Wow. Yeah. So so the typical ring crew day was, like you said, we drive there, set up the ring, set up the chairs, set up the entrance away, set up banners. That's just for a house show, I now. Then we'd go get some neat come back, work out in the ring with Tracy, Tracy smell guy and man, what's your deal? Man, he's he's awesome. Yeah, watch exc sound for that dog? Remember that riot? So uh so we work out with Tracy.

Doors would open if we were still part of teen Tesol do Team tas maybe someone wust work a match, and then like you said, we break down a ring and then drive to the next town because we had to be there the next day for twelve o'clock. I know, but you know, the mother and me would always be and I wasn't even a mother back then, but I

just had the instinct. Just yeah, I just had that mother lan and sing and I would always walk around the locker okay it is everybody all right, need to get some rest, and they're all looking at really shut up, you know, what. I just cared about everybody there was. There was sometimes when I would disappear because I had the r KAV and I would just go just find a spot and just go sleep for a couple hours. Okay.

I didn't have a cell phone on purpose because they used to used to screw with Chris Chetty all the time, Nicole his phone harass them throughout. So I was like, you know what, I don't need a phone. I didn't get a phone till after Taz and the and the Dudley's left. I didn't have self gyaes. I really just just to avoid getting pestered. I don't think I had a cell phone for a long time either. Yeah, I got it probably like ninety nine or two thousand. I

had a note the big fat Nokia. Did you have to plug it into the cigarette lighter in the car? I plugged mine into the cigarette. Yeah the phone? Is that not a thing? Now? I charged mind, Like that's me too, I guess you remember now. I just remember the first cell phone I had a big one, and was that yeah big yeah, big, No Ki that the only way it would like work is if you had it plugged into the damn cigarette lader. I don't know cigarette lators and cars anymore. I have a horse and buggy.

What's car? That's true, that's true. Yeah, I I always had a lot of respect for you guys, just because you know, we we worked hard, but you guys had double the lude. So that's that's uh. I can't it's all. It's all for the pops, that's all. I just try and pop you. No, I love that. Listen. This is the most non professional show probably in the podcast world. I don't know, I've seen. I've seen some marks out there that are bad. I have to come on here

because we're friends. We just pop each other with stories. But that's the point. I watched a little bit of you and c W. I didn't even know that. Saran sort of caught you guys checking out of the building. That's a great story. We were like Ninja's. We were like trying to apparently apparently not good ninjas. You didn't do. I look like a good na. I don't even know

what I'm doing. So, so, any h any good stories that you remember from E. C. Dub Tons, tons and tons or what kind of what kind of story you're looking for? I'm looking I'll ask you for two. I want something that's gonna pop me and something that people might not know happened. Wow, Can I talk about the heat I got on your birthday? Yeah? Okay, it goes. It goes to the BC. You walked in. Hey, okay, it's my birthday. Go can I cop a birthday feel? That's right? And you lean over the guard Hong Kong,

or said Hong Kong. Maybe somebody said Hong Kong. But I I copped a good feel. Did I get mad? No? You popped? But then uh, but then in the first match, I had to work balls and axle and I took the chair shot to the head and chair shot to the back as a receipt. I guess as I did. It was opening match. No, but wasn't. What do you think I went to axel on balls and said, hit real kill. No, no, I think it's a booker. Oh get ay here, that's a sud. That was the case.

I had no knowledge, Honest to god, I didn't know, because I just want to I just want to get it. Get in that. I you know, grabbed your cans and it's exposed for everyone. Now listen, it's it's Yeah, it wasn't like a sexual thing. It was like a funny you know, yeah because I b C. Yeah, okay, well that's a good one. What's a story? I think? I think Sam Booth said to me, can I touch them? And I was like no, I'll give you no. Well that see I wasn't into that. So maybe maybe if

I was, I would have let him. But I didn't. But I remember him going Hong Kong like air Hong Kong and I was like, no, you walked away. Well he didn't go for it. Maybe if he went for it, it would happen. See, if you try, sometimes you get it. You gotta take chances in life. You know, what is a story that anywhere doesn't even have to be? Because we worked together also in in in the Fake w W W e C Yeah the fake. Hey, it was fake,

but we all got exposure. I got to have a Matt with Saboo on Sci Fi, which I thought was really good. I got compliments from everybody on the even TAZ, which was a surprise. I'm I'm in the Encyclopedia. I got a trading card or on the network. So yeah, the runs sucked, but we still have exposure now because of it. Do you feel like, because you know, there was a buzz about you when we were in w W A. I heard I heard a buzz, okay, and the buzz was that the buzz was look at me.

Vince McMahon loved your character, That's what I heard. And I wasn't sure if like they were supposed to push you on the E c W brand or if they were gonna move you to like a raw or a smack yep. But I kept hearing roadkill, roadkill, roadkill. It's

used to me they didn't know who I was. So bizarre. Yes, it's bizarre world because hey, yeah, I have to go introduce myself as Mike, and it's it's it's like if you weren't made there, if you didn't come up through their system or their brand, you didn't exist, or they act like you didn't exist. I've said that so many and you are and you are. Yeah, you fuck I

am you signed to you clowns. Well, it's funny you said that, because I don't know if you know the story when Vince pulled me out of the line to get my draw because I was crying, the Johnny A said I wanted my release, and Vince came and found me, and Vince goes, I know nothing about you. This is what he says to me, And I go, didn't you buy our tape library? Didn't you buy E C W?

And He's like, oh, I don't watch it. I don't know anything about I felt like this, this guy who runs the wrestling Empire doesn't watch his competition, or at least is it is told about what's going on in the competition as he didn't, I mean, I but he didn't. He didn't. But he also weren't they going to hire you as like sister love or something? Yeah? So they so, so there you go that they knew who you were.

I don't know, it's all it's all giant work. I'm sure it's not just me that you said it too, because I'm just like, am I crazy? Look? Look look what they Look what the w W has done with all guys that have come from anywhere else that was successful. Few exceptions, there's like one or two like Flair and who el well, no, I'm talking about like RV d Oh yeah yeah, RV very well in that company. Tommy had a good run in that company. Tommy, Tommy had an okay run. Stevie had a really good run, had

a good run, but under the radar. They were there for a long time though they got their jobs. But Stevie was there before the W crumbled, before the merge of it. Yeah, before all. Yeah, Dudley's a jumped ship. That's what part of that's what that's what's part of the East W crumbling was they took away, like the main guys like Taz left and was in charge like merging the school, and Perry was already gone. And then they pulled like Bubba and Devon. They're both office guys,

and Bubba would get buildings for us, you know. Yeah, so they they kind of like plucked, plucked away at the Turkey until there was just bones left, you know. But now for you, going back to E c W, we have top guys that are leaving, which moves mid card guys up. We should have should have well supposedly, Yeah, it's all work. Do you feel like Paul didn't see

you at a certain level. I feel like I feel like Paul was disengaged with us at that time because he wasn't if you remember, he wasn't coming to the shows at the end, Remember he was he was in California getting us that that big TV deal. I do remember, but but he wasn't showing up the shows. It was just Dreamer and Paul would call in and sometimes show looked like TV if you remember, right. Yeah, so I don't think Paul was his hands on. Plus he was already working for w b E. He was right in

their show. We caught him at Stanford. I know you did, And yeah, we were driving up to we were going it was the Boston Loop, so we had left the day before and Chris Chetty had to go drop a duce, so we stopped a McDonald's. So it's we had two vehicles, the ring truck and the r kV. So it's me and Mikey in the roadkill van and Danny and Chris in the in the ring truck. So we're waiting and then we look up the road and there's Paul pushing his car. He ran out of gas, pushing his car

to the gas station. Hey, what are you guys doing here? We're going to the show. So yeah, exactly, we caught him early. But like you said, we're ring crews, were you know, low level people. We weren't even working said people. I said, no, no, No No, I mean us like as far as like you know, you look like Dudley Boys, Taz Sabu, r V D, Thos Dreamer, Shane Ol. We weren't even on that that radar yet because we weren't even really working. We were just ringcord at the time.

You know, but when these people are leaving, talent has to devolve and move up. Yeah, but you can only you can only evolve as far as they will let you. Did you feel like at this point, did you feel like maybe a single run would have been better for your career than I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I got I got over as a tag. Yeah, there was actually a rumor did you come to you didn't come to E three with us? We did E

three out in California. We were there for like the video game convention when when a video Did I get to do that? You got to talk to the book? Yes? Yes, I wasn't with them. I got a picture with them, so I know, I can't. I don't know why I didn't get to go on that trip. I don't know they would. I don't think there were any any any ladies on the other you know what because probably you didn't have any to work with. Maybe you didn't have anybody to work with. It was mostly like the younger guys,

like you said, the newer guys. Simon Diamond was there, Carrino, Uh, I don't know, but so so we were there two days. So Dreamer told me this afterwards. He was going to I worked Rhino two days, and Rhino was a TV champion, so he was going to have me go over and Rhino the first day and then lose it back to him the second day. So they would have snuck in a TV title for road Kill. That would have been

fun though. It would have been fun with something cool. Yeah, but other people politicked and and squashed it, and we can't say who. I won't say who because then you're putting them over. You'll tell me who. Yes, now I'm curious as to who that was, because there's heat, there's there's there's always heat. But if you put it over, you give them, you get them credit. Yeah, just between you and I K he'll see. Oh, I won't know anything.

I totally won't ask. I loved when people would do when we would do stuff on house shows that nobody expected, So that would have been. I mean, that would have been the talk of the town. It would have been it would have been people were politics the time, so yeah, exactly, you know who the politikers are. There were a couple of them, but whatever. Yeah, and you were starting to say about I was over in WWE. Yes, I heard again. I was signed in two thousand and five. Danny and

I had a couple of weeks of tryouts. We went down to ov W for two weeks and had like two weeks of tryouts. They ended up signing me but not him, which was strange. So I moved down to Kentucky in two thousand and five and I was part of OVW. So I was down there for a while and then east W came back to the One night Stand. I know this was after one I said, this is

the second one night stand. Okay, yes, So I was already under developmental I was down in Kentucky at the time, and then they had an idea for me with Casey James. They were going to bring us up to TV and Michelle McCool was going to be our manager, so basically doing the same gimmick I had with Dany, just a different guy. So it was it was Dusty Rhodes's idea keeping roadkill keeping might have changed your name, you think, I don't. I don't know. They were still using roll kill.

We had one dark match and they had brought Casey James and I up to TV once in I think Cincinnati, Ohio. We wrestled Stephen Regal and Sylvan Granier, and Sylvan did not want to work with us, didn't feed the come back, and it looked like ship because you're E c W or just because he didn't didn't know who you were, so to speak. Maybe I don't know what it is, but that's just the way the business works now. Plus a certain politic of gott into his ear too. Same

guy California, Yeah, same guy. I think I'm starting to figure out who it is, to be honest with you, I don't know the players time. I think I know who it is, but I'll keep it to myself. It's all good. I just don't want to give him credit, so I read it down. You're gonna test. So we had that and then uh, they brought back One's. The second one stand was after that. So then all of a sudden they plucked me out of that team and we're gonna throw me in just e c W because

they're gonna feed all of this to yes texts. Yes. So uh so they said, you know Starney again, you're oldest W guy. We're gonna send you to the new c W w W E c W. And that was kind of it. They were feeding us to the new guys. But like I said, luckily I snuck under the radar and got a match with Saboo and Sabot. Sabu got heat for giving me too much of the match, but Sabo's cool with me and and he's awesome. He gave he did give me a lot. But like I said,

I have that. That's that's on YouTube and the network forever. Right. You know, that's a nice piece of That's a nice piece of my work I can just leave on a shelf. See, your story is a little different than mine because you were already in developmental and so you knew at one point you were hoping they would move you up and do something within here's ECW comes back. Perfect fit right,

well kind of it. Kind of it kind of killed my my perfect fit because I had a they took me out of eas W. I was already on SmackDown because events like my gimmick, so I was already gonna be used probably, and then then later on it changed again because the night of Sea and Punk's debut with Hammerstein, he still need like a like a live show. I think big show and Batista might have made one. Yeah,

that was huge at the time. So they flew me up for that, and I ended up wrestling Steve Richards and the first time I wrestled in front of Vince. So I'm in the ring selling and that's before the show. Paul introduced me. You know, I was a full gimmick, the hat, you know, the Undertaker hat and all the gimmick, come over the rail and meet Vince and Paul's talking me up. So I'm like, okay, that's cool because they had just flown me up to do a cardio test

to my knowledge. Now all of a sudden, Here'm more going to dark magicains Steve right, so I work the match. Michael Hayes goes, hey, can you work heel kid? I go, uh yeah, yeah, it's just maybe a little you see my work. They just acted like like blind to the business. Yeah, you know, because they didn't I guess they didn't want to look like marks. I guess I don't know wish they all are anyways, So everybody, everybody's a mark man, We're all marks. It's all about the chalk. Uh so.

Uh so I worked the match. I'm sitting there selling. Stevie goes over, I'm selling, and you know, I want to still want to get up and get my get my get my pop, get my heat back at the Ammerstein. Yeah, who knows what I'm gonna be there again? Right so, uh Refre gets some moody. He goes, hey, get in the back right now. Vince wants to talk to you. And I was like, shit, I'm fired. I will dry it. I'm done. That's it. I had a good run. Let

me get I had a good run. It's over. So I get I get to the back and I go to the curtain and Johnny's waiting for me right there. Hey kid, come here. Vince wants to talk to you right now. So he literally walks me over to Vince and have a conversation with Vince like, I'm talking to you guys. I want to know your backstory, it this and the anything, but you know, will your nationality, any hobbies, any of this? I was like, Okay, here I am. Two seconds ago I thought I was getting fired. Now

he wants to know my whole backstory. Now you're having tea with them, Yeah, talking about life, how's it going, How's how's the XFL. So, so I'm talking to him talking. He goes, I like the way you work, but I don't like your gimmick. I'm gonna cut the beard off, put you in a pair of trunks. Change. So that goes that, that goes against what you said that he liked the gimmick, because yeah, that's what I heard. But so that's when I became Polish. So I kind of

like I have now I am Polish. Yeah, change from homage to Polish. Right, give me gimmick, change infringement. The

Polish people are gonna be kissed now. No, they were gonna that they they hadn't had a Polish guy since Potsky, and they tried with Scott, with Scott Junior, but it never caught on, you know, And they were gonna have me come from Wisconsin and all this other crap, and they gave me like a so so, like I said, Vince said, I'm gonna cut your beard off, put you in a pair of trunks and uh, we'll go with that. And I was just like, what the hell just happened?

And I'm talking to the owner of the company that you know, I followed Mitafana for years and now he wants to use me. Yeah, okay, So I cut the beard off, which I got heat for duty. Dusty had called me and said, hey, kid, we want you to cut the beard off. You know, the next TV you want see what you look like. We get a pair of trunks and uh, put you just cut the beard off. We'll go right. So I get the TV. Nobody recognized me after reintroduce myself again to people I've seen like

like last week, I just cut the beard off. Yea. So Paul goes, what did you do? Who told you to cut it off? What do you Apparently he booked me and Danny against the bash and so we're gonna we're gonna put them over on TV before they switched my camera. There's the conspiracy against all of us, Francine. Yeah, yeah, it's instead of making money with us, they just toy with all of us. Did what did Paul say when

you said vince me to do that? Well, Dusty actually called me and said the cut, physically cut it off before I come back to TV. Yeah. But but meanwhile Vince is showing you I don't like your gimmick. Ever of the beard. Yes, no one gave Paul the memo. No one gave Paul the memo, or he acted like no one gave him the memo. And then I could care less because at that point he wasn't my boss anymore, you know what I mean. But he wasn't. He wasn't writing to pay checks. Those No, they weren't made a

rubber no more dribble dribble. Yeah, bouncing the rubber checks, you know, I know I got I got at least ten of them. And he was bouncing the ring crew checks at the time too. Oh yeah, So how how are we supposed to have a show and generating new money if the ring crew checks are bouncing. That's to get the ring truck there, to get the rings set up the ring? Yeah, exactly what are we going to do? Exactly? Were the ships man? Yeah? No, but we but we

made the best of it. Though. We still have great memories from from those days, and we we can still talk about just a little bit. He said, they hired you, and they didn't they didn't want Danny. Yeah, did that cause heat between the two of you? Not from my end, and I don't. I don't think from his end, because it's out of our control. What am I gonna say? What am I gonna say? No? I can't take the

job unless you take Danny's too. No, And you can't do that unless it's your wife or something like that. And even still I don't get it, and vice versa. If you would have been hired and they didn't hire me, what can I say? Good for you? Understand it? Yeah, because it's out of our control. It sucked and we ended up back together later on, and then they swashed it again because we were getting over the house shows. We did those that over and then they just put

the cash on everything. That's it. We don't. I will never understand that about that company. You know why? Because they have money. They don't care. It's their show. But we can make them more money. Don't you want to get more money? Yes, but they don't care. It's your idea, it's not their idea. But it just does this leave you disenchant it after this whole experience. No, like I said,

I enjoyed the time. I had. I had a lot of great experiences and a lot of great memories, but I guess disenchanted that is that I don't want to tune anymore. Yes, okay, like I've I've seen, I've seen behind the curtain, I've seen the magic of it. I've seen how you know, I've seen David Copperfield does the magic. And I'm like, I don't relate anymore, you know, I just there's no there's no three hundred pound guys that I want to watch on TV. The guys fit in

my pocket now. These guys all like they look no offense. That there's a lot of talent out there, but a lot of them were like backyard guys, especially in the newer company, that my dog could beat up. Yeah, I know I reached out to you when I had my show, and you were just flat out just now yeah after after Okay, I think he's bitter at something because I couldn't even at that point, I couldn't even talk to you. Yeah, but it was it had nothing to do with you.

It was it was it was all when towards the end, I broke my neck. I net even see that. See the lion right there, Ye, let me see. So that was fusion surgery. So one of my last matches with w W when I was the developmental I uh. I was wrestling Matt Sidel Evan Bourne and we called a dive and I rolled out to the floor and he said he was gonna jump over the top rope alan chest to chest right. So spot comes. I roll out to the floor, I take the tilt the world, roll

out to the floor, and I'm this crash pad. If he wipes out, you know he's he's done. He can't work again. So it's my job to catch a guy running. He has the ropes, runs, jumps, and he starts sinking. Now, in my head, you gotta think quick because now it's his human body coming at you. In my head, I thought he caught his knee pad. So I took a step forward to catch him, and he caught wheeled on me and crushed the disk. That's not that's not what

we discussed. M hmm. That's not what we discuss at all. So I got knocked out. Knocked out. I finished the match, and I wasn't able to squeeze my hands like I wasn't able to do. I couldn't feel this so finished the match another like five or ten minutes and drove home still knocked out from it was like a two hour drive. We were I think we were like in London. There were some it's in front of two hundred people in an armory for OVW, which wasn't even tellvied it

was a house show. I lost my neck and essentially my career. So that left a bitter taste in my mouth because they ended up releasing me while I was still injured. But they but they didn't know. They didn't know, so I gave them benefit of the doubt and they said, what do you want. I go, well, I want to extend my contract get the surgery done. So they did right by me. They took care of surgery and all

the expenses and everything and paid me for the recovery time. Okay, Now, in the meantime I was doing I stayed in OVW. Danny Davis let me stay and I learn how to like book and do promos and stuff like that and write TV. So I was doing all that stuff and then one day I woke up and said I just don't want this anymore. And it was like I explained it, like this is like a relationship. It's like a fourteen year relationship. I woke up and said, I love you, but I'm not in low it anymore. I'm done. And

that was it. And that's the time where you started reaching out. I'm sorry said that. No, no, no, I get it. But but like I said, it had nothing to do with you. It was just that's where I wanted nothing to do with the business at the time. I wanted you there because I love you and you were part of my family, and even if you put in work, I just wanted you there. I appreciate it, and we've talked about this and we you know, it's

water under the bridge and stuff. But I just felt like you were just like no, yeah, But but it wasn't towards you, I know, but I didn't at the time. I didn't. I didn't know all this was going on, you know, because we live because we lived different lives. You know, you got you got married, kids and you and I wasn't. I wasn't really in the business anymore, per se. I didn't. You know, it wasn't in the sheets. I didn't have Twitter, so I didn't know what was if you want in the sheets, I did to get

the kids in the bathroom. Sweet whatever, But I just like, I'm just so glad that everything is fixed and we've kept in touch and everything's good. Where are you at now? I know where you're at, But tell them I'm in Long Island right, No, no no, no, no, we're not going to Yeah. The marks already exposed it. It's exposed. I got I got fan mail to my house. I was like, welcome to my world. Yeah. It was just it's just weird.

Like I got two pieces like in two days. I was like, oh, it's a community, roadkill, it's a community. It's a big, big thing. But you don't even need to tell them. No, there there's Facebook groups. It's called through the mail autograph collecting. But why you get for free to I don't know. No, there's no freebies. I'm listening. If either one of those wolfs had money in them, they would have got their stuff. But hey, I'm a big fan and here's a here's eight by ten. Yeah right,

and guess what. And of course it's like anything. They get pissed when people want money, so you get nothing for nothing. Man, that's right. What do you do now for a living? Tell? Tell everybody we're because you're not social media. You're not really. I kind of kind of like lived the Amish lifestyle on a shoot. I don't even have a TV. I got rid of it. No TV. I borrow. I borrow the Internet from my neighbors. They give me the wireless code and that's it. That's awesome.

It's doing very good. I can tell you you have no bad connection. You've had a better one than for it. You were gonna kick. I was gonna be a roadkill for the rest of high text iPhone and steal the Wi Fi. Maybe just always working man, always working again. I'm wearing boxer shorts right now to fantastic. I'm always comfortable down here. No one can ever see it. Yeah, what are you? What are you doing with your life right now? I'm surviving. I'm surviving outside of the w bubble.

I do a lot of eBay sales, and I was actually able to during this pandemic quit quit my real job in retail and just work from my house, hang out with my dogs all day, just take pictures of stuff I have around the house, because I've been collecting stuff for years. I have in ECW. I would travel

to I was collecting figures. When East wus up and running, I'd be home most of the week, so I wake up around noon and snipe stuff off eBay and get stuff really cheap, and I would just I've hoarded it for twenty years, so it's like LJN Figures, WWFLJ and Figures Loose and card and Hasbro figures and stuff like that. And when we were on the road, also other states didn't have other states had stores that New York didn't have.

Walmartin Target were not on Long Island yet, So when we go to Florida, I knew who the target was on the way down. So I'd stop a Target by Target with solicism and bring it back up here and do bulls with a comic book shop here and some you know, and I put stuff away brother from another mother here. I say the exact thing. But it's so but it's so easy. I'd rather sell toys and be digging a dick somewhere or setting up a scaffold or working with people you know. But you know what I

didn't understand about you. One of the first times I saw you after me being out of the business, like I came back obviously everybody comes back once or twice in their life, and ye come, we never retire. But you were you were at a table, but not as road kill. Yeah, I h you're just selling stuff? And I right, and what are you doing? Like why are you not roadkill right now? Because we're all in like Gemrick, so to speak, and and you're just hanging out selling

because most people don't recognize me. Number one, if I just did it as roadkill, I'd probably make little to no money. If you're in your gear, I'm not gonna wear that gear I sold too. No, I don't. I don't have to do anything. I'll sell merchandise. I'll sell merchandise.

So I've gotten my own booth. At most shows like Legends of the Ring and Big Event, I would buy my own booth and set up wrestling figures, and I would look through the collection I have and find guys that we're going to be there, say like Bibbili Jim's gonna be there. I'd dig up his figures, or Tito Sihan is going to be there, of Bruce Beefcake. I find the figures that I have and bring it to the show and sell it. Because people sometimes can't get it in time to get it signed to the show.

Here I have it, and then they run over and get the signature from so that they buy it for me. And Dreamer actually told me he popped because I did a show with the Erena the Icons. I sold the Tommy Dreamer figure to somebody and the fans that bought it from me was like, hey, I just brought to some roll. He was recited that he bought it from me. They kill and then he got signed by tom Wow.

So so so I'm making money regardless. So you're you're against You're against dressing like roadkilling and coming back for maybe an c W reunion or something. You know you did it for. Yeah, but I didn't get dressed up, but you came back as roadkill and he signed his Roadkill. I did come back and sign and people because if I if I'm helping somebody work on something for next year, can I call you and say you'll you'll do it.

It's not what the hat to wear, the suspenders, just the hat, well the original hat is gone, but just replica. Well maybe maybe it depends. Maybe hang out just to come and hang out. Well, I can't hang out like this man, why why we got to be like that? Because gimmick, because you don't have to be in gimicked. Well that's to me, that's in gimmick. I remember, I remember we did Danny United one signing when I first came back, and the guys that we want you in gimmick.

So like I wore like a white shirt, no suspenders, no hat. Here you go. What's you gonna say? You know what I mean? I had no beard and I don't care. I just if if my thing happens. Okay, technically me, I'm helping Ka the Marks. Let me know if what happens, we'll just talk off camera, all right, But I'm saying, can I try and include you? Yes? What do you want to do it? Okay, that's good. Where where can they find you on eBay? Nowhere? Come on?

I'm actually uh. I used the name Darth Giants one word d A R T H G I A N T Star Wars. It's you're not a Star Wars Mark. You got to Disney all the time. How can you not be a Star Wars Mark? Listen? I walked through the Galaxy's Edge and I was like, Oh, that's cure, that's cure. That's care. I'm already on. I'm already on road kill. I can't I don't know the line. I couldn't even get on the freaking ride. My kids were like, why can't we get on these Riyes, I was like,

because I didn't wake up four o'clock. Because because they're over. That's why I'm not anymore. Yeah, no, I'm not a big mark for the new Disney Star Wars. I've got what we were talking about before starting. Yeah, it's so the Dark Giant thing. So basically, if you if you hunt me down on eBay, like I said, one more dark Giant, all the same, same, There's no capital letters or anything, but it's the picture of Andre the Giant from Princess Bride when he was the dread Pirates or

dread Pirate Roberts. He found me already what that was finding the hardy Boys figures that popped up, some foam fingers, some phone the original thing. But I've got everything, but I've saved it. I just said that most of the guys sold it all for for pennies on the dollar because they needed the money for whatever. I just saved it because I was He's their own he's their own man. Hey, whatever whatever your dale is man, whatever right I got, but I saved it. Like when he's W shut down,

I was. Tommy had worked it out where because I had the big van. So I was bringing shirts to the show and he was. He was covering my my travel, so he paid for a second room for us for the ring crew. They paid for gas, tolls and expenses pretty much just by bringing merchandise for the show. So I became friends with the guy that made the shirts. So when he CW folded, I took all his old dead stock I just got. I just sold a whole

bunch of FTW tank tops when Taz left. Taz had an FTW line that never took off because he went a WWE. Yeah, but but I had to I had to pay my dues to get that connection. So so there was there was I remember there was one loop. We were in Connecticut and then Philly the next night. So we ended the show in Connecticut, like you said, set up the ring break down the ring. I drove home that night, woke up the next morning, picked up a ton of shirts, filled my van, and then drove

down a Philly by myself. Wow, because because that's how much merchandise you were selling. But but now look get paid off because look at everything, but everything pays off, you know what I mean everything. There's a reason. There's a reason for everything. You don't know what it is at the time, but everything pays off of Actually, I love this, this positive rogue kill because like back in

the day, like not the ships. But I would be like because I tried to be positive, and he'd be like, like, you know, it's just you have to sometimes you have to because there's so much negative craft people motivate him and make them happy. And his face would be like, and now you're just you're just this happy. You seem like more happy, happy, jolly. Yeah. I know, no wife, no kids, two dogs, no job, no job, no job, no uh no, no paying for internet free uh no,

TV always work and that always worked. I met uh, I just posted a picture. I met the girl from Stranger Things. I don't know what her name is. The main star she played eleven. Did you watch Netflix? You watch Netflix? No, okay, so you don't who she is either. I know what you're talking about, but I know what you're talking about. So I did vending. I did round a Comic Con for the last six years, which is awesome. I set up a booth and everything, and so all

kinds of fit, not just wrestling. There's all kinds of stuff. So I get like celebrities and stuff like that. So I was I was using this restroom that I'd normally use all time because I would get there like two days before and set up, and people in the building knew me, so I could just walk around wherever, like I own the place, right. So shows going on, I go take a break, I go to the restroom, come out,

and I hear the English voice. I'm like, wait a minute, I know this girl's here doing like, you know, autographs and stuff. I go, excuse me, you might have been taking a picture with you goes yeah, sure, cheers, you know, quick picture, blooming them out. Meanwhile, people playing like sixty to one hundred dollars to get a picture with her. I just got one a in her locker room. Basically he can get the free stuff. How to just work, Just working man, just working man. That's right. Well, I

am so pleased that you came on. Thank you for having a lot. Of course, I know a lot of people have wondered where you've been rock. That's it. I'd rather be off the map than under the radar, you know what I mean. I don't. I just don't. Just nobody's business. Listen. If you're happy that it's life, that's all that matters. So you're you're doing something right. I'm very very happy for you. I'm so happy that you and I are still friends, and I I want to

see you somewhere next year. So if it happens, okay, let me know, keep me a form. But I don't know. But the gimmick appearance gimmick? Am I not? Well, maybe not in gimmick. Maybe just like a white shirt. Okay, maybe maybe we'll see I have I might have roll Killed shirts by then. Oh then that's perfect. Yeah, so you are to wear an East W shirt. I still have them. Listen, I don't care if you come in in your underwear and you got it, you got sold. White people looks weird because I got big cans to

around and they hang out the size like mudflaps. Everybody go to road Kills eBay store, Darth. There will be noose there. You go. Thank you, I love you, Thanks me, and I'll talk to you. Chad. Good to meet you. I think I think passing at the at the shows. Did you bring him? Having puts you at one time at the arena? No, I had Bundy at the last Icons December two years ago, and that was the last

time I was at ICONS. But I told Francine before, I said, the first time I saw you at Icons, I was like, I feel like I know this guy. And then I walked around and that's why I know him. Ro Kill text me that the heat person. You know who he is. We worked them a long time. Yeah, but here I'll give you another used to used to travel with the sound guy. All right, I'll text you. No, I think I know. I'll text you now and you

tell me, well, I can't text him on the phone. Man, get off, take it, take it home, get the hook, Get this guy out of here holding the pencil off. You gotta go. Sorry, it's all good. Take care of ro Kill. Ill Bye. He's hilarious. Okay, I hope I'm right. I haven't I hope I'm right. All right, Well, I'm just gonna start reading Manscape because we were right out of time for our whole entire day. I'm sorry, No, no, no, you're great. No, I love it. I can listen to

you talk to your buddies. You're right, thank you. That is what it's like to know the players involved. So let me let me tell you a little bit about manscaped Here. Now, Manscape this fall season is doing amazing thing. Okay, We've talked about pumpkin spike ball, We've talked about ball cream, We're talking about ball lotion. We talked about shaving a lot of different stuff. But with Manscape, they're here to ensure that you don't carve your pumpkins when you're grooming

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a new weed whacker. Ear and nose hair trimmer uses the same skin safe technology when you're trimming those delicate nose hairs of yours, which if you pinch them, you might fall over crying worse than when Francine took her bump on the hardwood. The crop Care Kit includes the crop Preserver, which is the ball deodorant which keeps those pumpkins spiced and those lattes nice and perky during this

fall season. The crop mop ball wipes. You never know when you're gonna have an opportunity striking to use them, so make sure you don't stink down there, especially when you sit down at that Thanksgiving dinner. And if you need the instructions I had to do with you, go to mandscape dot com with the promo code Francene. You get twenty percent off and free shipping on your first order. Again twenty percent off and free shipping manscape dot com

promo code Francene. And don't forget these formulations are all vegan, cruelty free, die free, soul fate free, and power being free. So you don't put your mand hood in any jeopardy. It's in good hands with manscaped and also and tip jar Mass. I was gonna mention them before when you went on your hike. Now Francine wore her tip jar mass as she blaze the trails. Yes, I had it with me. I didn't need to put it on, but

I had it just in case. You know, the people as my son said, people people, But yes, Tip jar mask they are the most comfortable masks on the market, in a lot of different styles and colors. They come in a sealed envelope, so they are you know, you're guaranteed to get a fresh one, sanitary one. We love tip jar mask. Yeah. I guess what I got news for you. It's it's looking like they're going to be putting those workers back out on the streets again. Yeah,

a lot of places they're closing. Chicago's closing, New York is putting restrictions on. New Jersey's putting restrictions on so backwards, guys, going backwards. So these these displaced service workers. Any kind of time you buy a tip jar mask, they're getting a portion put aside for them. And if you know somebody that works in a bar restaurant, you know exactly what we're talking about. Man, So tip jarmask dot com. Yes, yeah, you know you think Corona's getting better and it's starting

to get worse apparently boo. Yeah, and I meant to tell you. So we had a scare, not in the house scare, but at my little one's daycare. A parent oh no, so we pulled her out as we pulled her out as precaution for two weeks. Are they saying that the kids gotta have to get tested or I'm assuming that the kid, like of the parent, got tested, but we're just being safe and we took her out for two weeks just we don't want we don't want to commingle anything. So yeah, Gary, Yeah, Gary, scary. Well

I had to wrap up. Yeah, let's do it. What are we doing on Patreon this week? Oh? Good call? So I don't know, we've got more. We got more Fan Appreciation Month? Had your way? Uh, that's for damn sure. And because of Fan Appreciation Month, maybe maybe I think we might do one of our two things that we planned. But I know we are definitely doing. We're gonna do some asm mar this week. I already watched it. I watched it already. I've been told I have to keep

it down very very faintly. Okay, yeah, so a watch along. I think we might have to forego the watch along only because we have two of our friends joining us this week. If that changes, I do have one, but I'm not going to say what it is, just in case, just in case, just in case, because we have some

also extra recording we're doing, which is good. So yeah, you'll forego just possibly possibly Okay, sounds good if you want to follow me at Chad E and B on Twitter, Exclusives, dot com, uh autographs, autograph signings, a couple of new ones coming. We're already planning January when you think about that, already thinking that far ahead. Yeah, anything else, Diamond Conversations. Diamond Conversations going to be coming back in a few weeks.

I might be moving it, so okay, kind of put it on baus for about three weeks and wait till January first to restart season two. Okay, I am across the board on social media at ECW Diva Francine. I'm going to announce it now. I'm going to start doing holiday cameos everyone. I have some outfits that I bought

specifically for the holiday season. Okay, So I'm also going to be singing some Christmas carols if anyone's interested in my singing, which people that have got Happy Birthday messages know that my voice sucks, but I still give it a hundred percent. So yeah, Christmas cameos. It's actually go to my Twitter to book. I'll put the link up on Twitter, but easy to at ecw DVA Francine and I also have an only fans at EASYWDVA Franccene. And that's a wrap

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