Preview Episode: Big Sal E Graziano

I'm in between appointments today. So well, I thank you for putting up this because it's you, and you're like, oh, you never talk to me, you don't you ignore me, gonna make I am gonna make time for friends, kept up. You put my husband over every chance you get. But when it's me, it's just like I don't even care and mirror. But I was. I was explaining to people who had you know who, who either think you're dead or just don't know, like, what's going on? How different

you look? Now? I got a lot of Valpuccio heat. Did you funny? Not funny? Not funny that you know. I'm not making late of death or anything, but yeah, I can see it a little bit. Really from where he was like six foot No he was bigger than six. No he was not. Though anyhow, what do you have to come on here and argue? Can we just do you know what I thought of the other day after

I spoke to you. Do you remember Sal and I were like friends like outside and I used to go to his house and hang friends outside of normal of the business, right, Like, it wasn't just I sawmn you know, we talked and we hung out and stuff. Do you remember the time when we tried to make a movie and you you were with the guys, Oh my god, the guys. Uh the the we were supposed to just do clip a clip when it took forever to do

because it just nothing worked. It was fucking ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, okay, So we were trying to make like, uh, I guess it was a horror movie. It was a hard It was a horror it was it was supposed to be a clip of a horror movie. And it was supposed to be something that someone like found footage. So we wanted to make it look like found footage, like Witch project thing, right, and it just and just nothing worked out for me. It just none of it worked. The

funniest is I'm sitting in a chair right. There was a movie on in the background too. We kept laughing at the stupid dialogue of the movie. But Sally is telling me, okay, like you know, I'm gonna to like be like a killer kind of thing, and I'm gonna I'm gonna try and like choke you. All we needed to do is get a clip, one solid clip of it. Well, first of all, he kept like he's choking me, and it's the it's like the lightest choke ever. And I'm like, so,

put some energy and something. Right, He's got his hands around me. I what was I wear it? Could He kept going okay, wait, stop, no, we have to lower this a little, and he would go like this to my blass, like okay, that's better. But it was nothing. It was nothing. It wasn't anything dead, No, it was it sounds it sounds horrible like now now like saying it. It sounds terrible. We have to do you have that

I wish I have, so I have I had. I had all these different stuff that like me and friends did and when we used to take alca cells and put it in our mouths and like go out in public and like just start spraying and spinning a ship all over the place. I had all these tape. When I moved from back from Kentucky back to Jersey, all the tapes disappear. Like when I say disappeared, when I say he disappeared, I mean they're gone. And I'm like, weird. The only thing I could think of, I'm like, did

they get Now? This is where it gets fucking funny, because it would be great if this somewhere turned up somewhere, like I left them in the apartment in Kentucky, and like the landlord found all these just the landlord found them and opened the YouTube channel, and now they're on and we don't even know you, We don't even know random people throwing up blood or fucking spitting up Alcus

elser A in a supermarket. Oh my god. I just thought of that, and I thought about all the stuff that we used to do, and I just sort of hysterical laughing. Oh my god. And before we get into like wrestling and stuff, tell everyone about the mine cup because this thing. Chad doesn't know Chad, did you do? You know? Sal? I never met Sal. I just you know, I've heard him on a different podcasts before. Yeah, so I'm sitting here like an idiot. Hey, what's up? So

don't feel like an idiot, France, I'm the idiot. That's okay, it's all right. Well I did it, Okay. I was just so justsed to see you because I haven't seen your beautiful face in a very long time. So there we go. So, so chat, there was this thing called the mind cup, and I'm gonna let Sal explain it. But if you knew, you knew, and that's all I have to say. So okay, let me let me ask

you question. Chad. When you were a kid and you were bored and like your mom and dad were doing something and you were stuck there with him, that was your most dangerous time as a kid because you're bored and you're gonna look for shit to do. Yeah, right, So that's when you become an asshole kid, and that's when you become agitated or an asshole adult. Right. It's all came from us waiting for to do promos, waiting for checks, waiting for everything. We were always stuck somewhere waiting.

And my my hobby in travel used to be to collect big Gulf cups like the old just the old school of seven eleven plastic big gulf cups, and I had I had a collection, no joke. I didn't have one real glass in my house. I had nothing but big golf cups. So I had these big golf cups.

And I think it was at the first time was me and I think Steve Corino, and we were sitting up in a balcony, and I want to say it was Boston, but we're sitting on a balcony just waiting again for more shit, and we saw we saw Raven walk by. I love it because I know, yeah, well, So we're sitting there and I just Steve is in front of me, and I just lean over and I start talking into the cup. You know, these people are preposterous. You know, I can't stand this I'm hearing. I have

an IQ of one hundred and ninety seven. So I start talking as if I'm the voice inside of a Raven's head. So Kirino's laughing, I'm laughing, and that's how it's. It was a dumb, little, one time, stupid joke that kept going. So at point me and Steve Corino are dying and Franny comes walking in. She goes, what are you doing so we're like, just sit down. So she sits down, and everybody's coming in and out, and anybody who walked through we just had something to say about it. Well,

their mind had something to say about it. And we I wrote on the side of the glass mind cup that it was the inner workings of somebody's mind. You can hear everybody's inner thoughts. So great, And when Dreamer walked in, all weys started to just play man in the box because that's all that's going through his head twenty four. That's the only thing walks in. I hate this place. That's so great. Oh my god, I never got to hear my mind. No, you were always sitting

up top, were we Well? I think I planned that because I didn't want you making fun of me. So I was like, oh, he's got that cup. I have to But that's one of the memories, you know. There were so many positive things that came out of like our locker room, just from the banter and the friendship. And I always remember the mine cup as just making

me smile. And when I when you said you would do the show, I'm like, I have to bring the mind cup up because that was so fun or the day the day Raven found out about the mine cup and he talked into a styrofoam cup. It wasn't the sick to do it. And I threw the mine cup away. I said, well, you ruined it. Yeah. I threw the plastic mindcup away in front of him and he was he just looked and he was like, it wasn't disgusted. It was so great. Do you want to talk about

the past or what you're doing now? What do you want to talk about? You want to talk about? Uh? You know, hey, Sal, how'd you get into wrestling? I walked into a gym and I paid a man three thousand dollars. Yeah, and there you go. Who was your trainer, Sal, Johnny Rods, same as Tommy and Taz, And uh do you regret that day? No? No, you know what, there were points where I did and never and never because it was Johnny, like honestly being being a mark going

into the business. Everybody is right because everybody's like, oh, I can't wait to do it. And you know, you think when you're back in the day, you're like, oh, Johnny Rods and oh I remember him, he was a jobb or people say that ship and you're like, Okay, well, now the time is coming past. You realize guys like that are fucking legendary because they made they made their fucking life in this business that is so uncertain. You don't know if you're gonna have your job tomorrow, right,

you know, Hey, Jerry Brisco, how you doing? No great? The guy's been around forever. But like those guys have done these these these they keep their their spots because they know how to work their professionals. And I am I am never never have I been so thankful that I've worked, and that I was trained by guy, a guy like Johnny Rods and guys like and I got to meet guys like Dreamer and Taz and all those

dudes who you say whatever you want about them. Yeah, you know, socially they are probably stunted to kindergarten levels, But it's those guys. I love all of you. I love I love all No, stop it. I don't need a job anymore from any of these people, So I don't get you. Don't You can say whatever you want. I don't care, no, And it's not bad. I'm not. Let me tell you. Here's the here's the funny part. A lot of people I've said, I've said stuff on inner views and stuff and just it's just how I feel.

And they're like, oh, and I'm like, come on, does anybody care anymore? Is it really a big deal anymore? Of the ship like dead? Most Yes, I don't know a lot of fans think it's real now though, Sal. I think a lot of fans today blurred the line of reality and uh, you know, the business so and we lost them. I guess there he is. I thought I thought I kicked you off with that. I thought I blew your mind with that statement. I don't think

it's no, it's it's different. It's different today, though, Sal, because like back then, we didn't have social media. We talk about this all the time. If we did, a lot of us would be a lot of true. Oh for sakes, right, yeah, but even to the point of k fabe, like everything has changed, the business has changed. But that's what I say with this interview though. People people take what you say and run with it because they they kind of blur the line of it was

real and what wasn't. So you say something like that, they go, oh my god, sALS just said, you believe that the run. But that's and here's the thing. I was in eighties. I was an eighties kid. I grew up in the eighties watching eighties wrestling, and that was that was that rule, you know what I mean. That was how it worked being in the business. Of course, you know, never meet your heroes, which learned hard way. Sorry I disappointed you. How old do you think you are?

I know how old I am. I never my age, kiddo, never, uh you see you threw me off now. But like we grew up in a differentime, especially E c W. E c W kind of shrugged off the cartoon. We have our cartoon gimmicks, you know that sort of thing, and E c W shrugged it off, and guys were using their names and and you know it wasn't so much. Oh we can't be seen together, you know that sort of thing. K fabe started getting a little bit blurred

now because it was disappearing. Now it's become everybody knows everything. Everybody knows, uh, you know Francine's last name. Everybody knows where, what appearance is she's gonna make. Everybody knows every fucking thing about. Oh, she had a dynological appointment because you're fucking coach with itchy. They all know. They all know because no, Number one, because your husband puts out a

memo every month. No, he does not. I did I put a picture up of my knees in the in the uh, in the gimmick saying, oh, I wonder what's wrong with me today? I put a picture your knees up and that sold for six hundred dollars in Japan. That was in Japan. I'm over in Tokyo, but not to watch of the states. When like when and hall did you come into E CW For those who might not like you met the boys like through Johnny Rodds and stuff. So I trained. I trained with Devon. I

trained with Tommy ninety one. I was a senior in high school ninety one, okay, yeah, and I trained with them, and that's when I started at Johnny Rods ninety one. Uh, Devon I met, you know, he came through Johnny and Soared, Tommy all those guys. And then I think it was ninety I took a break because I went to school for a year and I, you know, was trying to

be normal. Yeah, and then I came back and started, you know, working indies again and just talking to Devon and he asked me, you said, hey, can you send us a tape? And here it was I kind of okay, So again I thought this was like kind of a little bit of a rib and I sent the tape, figure it would be Devon and Tommy watching this, and I sent a video clip. It was basically a promo tape of me just constantly, just and it was heatedly.

It was so I was. I did it on two VCRs of me just dropping an elbow on Devon over and over and over and over and over and over and over, and meat like whipping Devon with a with a money bag that we had that we didn't Gleason. We did a show home show and Gleasons and it was just me beating the ship out of Devon and I just chopped it up and then I would add all these little video effects because I figured it'd be it's a goof, and it was just I found out

Paul everybody watched him. Everybody fucking watched it. I was like God, and Paul, you know, I came. I came into Queen's actually, and I you know, brought my stuff and they were like you want to go. I said yeah, sure, and I went I did it. I did the deal with Spike and I come walking in the back and it's it was Shane Douglas. It was uh Bam bam, it was uh devon buba. Every he was there and they all had like arms fold and they all looked fucking ticked right, And I'm like, oh shit, Sane Douglas.

Shane Douglas sitting there and now here I am. I'm like, and I come in the back and I didn't say anything. I didn't know what to say, and I'm just standing there like an asshole. And Shane Douglas was well, now you've done it. And I'm like, and I'm looking linking around, like what happened. Spike comes in the back. And normally, you know, Spike will come up to you and be like, hey, thank you so much, YadA, YadA, YadA. Spike walked in the back and he stopped because he saw everybody else.

And I was like, oh shit, what did I do wrong? Okay? And Shane goes, you did it. I can't believe it, and I'm like, what what the fuck? What the fuck? He is, Oh, you got a job here, I'm like, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. And then Spike, you know, thank you so much, thank you, and you know everybody, and I was like, cool, what, I have to go change my pants because how fun. Yeah. I remember when you first Yeah, when you first came in, you were like larger than life to me, like just your stature

and just and the fit with the FBI. I think it worked so well for you. I like, they want to deal with me. They were they were gonna make me. Uh they put me with justin Credibles Crew long No, it was I was always in the schmas with that at the end. And then they were gonna put me with Danny and Chetty and it was gonna be Sally Nightlife, and I was all I was gonna hold a disco ball above them while they talked, while they did their promo.

I think I vaguely remember this. And then Paulie came up and he goes, so, uh, sally E Garazziano, and I'm like no, like an asshole, I'm like, no, Valenti my name, and he goes and he looks at me to Gusy like you're a little idiot, look at you, You're a mora you're you're a big Idiot's good for you? Oh my gosh. So if I think it worked, I loved it. I loved the pairing with Widow and Tony and whoever else was in that. Tracy Well, I really

liked JT. Smith in there in the early days because it was just so ridiculous and it's just like, you're looking at this faction and saying so ironically of you. I was. I was, you know, getting back into indies and stuff, and I caught E c W. I guess it was maybe ninety five, might be in nineteen nine, five ninety six, and I happen to catch it on MSG late night. I was hanging out with my friends and we saw nine one one and Taz doing the deal and I'm like, and I watched him, like, what

the fuck is this? That's what everybody says. Katy's came out and they were doing the bit and I said, I go, oh my god, what the fuck is happening? And I laughed about it, and I remember saying, I'm like, huh, that ain't gonna last. Really. Yeah. I remember thinking the show, the show, and I'm like, because I liked so here's the thing. Anything I like goes away very quickly if I have If they have a new flavor of coffee somewhere, and I'm like, I love this shit, they discontinue it

that week. If I like the show, they're like cool, ratings pulled and I yeah. So when I saw this, I remember thinking going, this is really cool. It looks like fucking handycams and you know, like walking around like handheld chemis is cool. I like this, and I remember going, it's not gonna last now. And then ironically, a friend of mine when I when I got the job, a friend of mine was like, do you remember we were in your fucking basement watching this, And I was like,

oh my god. Yeah, so it's funny how life, you know. And then to go ahead and meet people that I've already I knew from high school, you know what I mean, Like people who like don't don't lived in our area. Me and her knew each other from passing, and people never come to find out I did a show with Ben Hamene. Yeah, I did a show with him, and come to find out, Greek god Papa Don used to live in Rosedale in my neighborhood, so we never knew he was in my brother's grade. He was in the

same school at p S. One thirty eight. We all want the same like, it's just so fucking weird that through the business, all the people that lived right with each other, we never knew. Do you consider it the best time of your career? Of my career starts. I've never I've never talked to somebody from ECW who says that it wasn't that they had more fun in like another fed or somewhere else. And you know what it is.

It's it's it's because we're all fucked up. It's because we're all fucked up, and we all I like to think it's because we're all friends and we all had a good time, But why are we friends because we're all fucked up all we all gravitated to each other. It's the land of misfit toys. Okay, some of us more than others. We just have to state that because you know some of us wear well. It depends on what you thought, what you're talking about. We all Okay,

So here's here's the thing. We all were fucked up in some way or another. Some guys it was drugs, some guys it was sex. Some guys or girls. It was a thousand other things, but we were all fucked up, and that was the thing. The thing was, we didn't want to be anywhere else, right, you know what I mean? Like we all we all were happy being there because we were all accepted with each other. Okay, it's it's nice that you mentioned that, because I tell a story

on here. I've told a story. Rather when I got offered to jump to WWF, and it was early, or I was with I think I was with the Pimples. It was very early, and I was so comfortable with ECW and so green, and I was I was number one. I was afraid, but for the most part, I loved everybody in the locker room, and I didn't want to go, no matter how much money they were going to offer me. I stayed making peanuts because this was my home and this is where I wanted to be. If you got

a call, maybe you did. I don't know if they wanted to pull you. Do you think you would have left or so you got an offer it was it wasn't WWE, but yeah, w CW. And then I just tell us, here's the other thing too, A little inside baseball. I guess I didn't know what to do at this point, so I guess I had an agent come to me, and uh, he was like, oh, you know, I want to I want to do movies and this and that. I said, okay, cool man, I'm down. But then he

wanted to get more involved in wrestling. He was more of an entertainment agent. He wanted to get involved in wrestling, so he wanted to get his foot in the door that way, and he's like, oh, we can do this, we could do this, we can do that, we can do all kinds of things. And I didn't want to because, like I number one, I was still I was like a couple of a year in at ecw okay, And I was like, well, I don't I don't want to leave here number one, and I don't want to rock

the boat that I'm here. So at that point, you know, I wound up. I went separate ways with the agent because I'm like, we just want two different things. You want to get in and I don't want to bring you in here because it's not my place. You know,

I don't know anything. I'm still green here. So did he want to get into maybe be in the business or did he want to get in to use other talent for all the talents he went on to work with a couple of guys, like a couple of big names, and like, you know, no issue with him, I have no heat. But it was just at the time, I didn't want to go anywhere. I didn't want to I

didn't want things to change. You know, great, Yeah, if they were offered more money, i'd been like, yes, please, but I still like, I just I didn't want to leave. I didn't want to change what I was doing. What is the w c W story. Well, that's that's more or less the story that so this agent came from Atlanta and he knew, he knew people, he had, he had an end, he had some people that he was talking to, YadA, YadA, YadA, and I just I decided not to go. I was like, no, I'm not interested

in that. He's like, no, but it could be more money, it'll be more less traveled. I said no, I'm good. Oh okay. So yeah, so we don't really know what the offer was. Well, here's that's the thing. This isn't a I'm not gonna I just don't want to like throw out his name because like I said, but again, like it was, it was offered to me to do this and i'll we can get you in, and I didn't want to because also I think there's I think and again, I don't want to make this a fucking

deep show on psychology. Psychology, No you can, because that was the theme of our patriots. You missed that. I actually cried my eyes out earlier and that's why we made it okay with therapy. So we all, I think we all have some of us have a self sabotage thing where we don't want to We didn't want to put ourselves out there. Like if somebody would have came and said we're going to put you in a WWE as the champ top top shelf ship, people would be like,

oh yeah, I'd love that. There's a lot of pressure with that because you don't know if you're going to keep that job for more than a week. So again, it's one of those things. If I'm good where I am, I can build on what I'm doing here. I liked being a big fish in a small pond. I like that a lot rather than being in deep waters and not knowing my way around, and uh, you know, the fish nickname never stuck with you, thankfully. Thankfully, yes, but

now that's interesting. I didn't know about the the w c W things, so see you heard it here. First I deliver this exclusive as always, tell everybody what you're doing. Now I'm working Actually I went back to a company that I was working with a while back, actually last time we were together, and I did I did an interview with Bill after Yeah, and uh, I'm working back with special needs adults who are working in the community

and I job coached them. God forbid. Okay, you're the coach, dare you're you're sitting there a big sale locks in as your coach. Do you use the mind cup? Do you let them see? I can go in? And it's funny because I go in and I'm very like I'm trying try to be I try to be casual with them, with with my guys, and they just they just are all. I'll come in, so how are we doing to and the guys like today fucking sucks like whoa, whoa, whoa? Easy,

don't filter. It's wonderful, great job though you're you're doing. And I'll tell you what I got such a jump on working with developmental disability disabled people from working in easy w I got. I'll be honest, you're an idiot. I do love yell, but you're an idiot. Are you still doing the thing over on Versu's network? Do you want to plug that? We do The Conspiracy Horseman, and then we have The Hardy, which is my show, me and my friend Chuck and our friend Cat. We we

review awful, awful horror movies. I love it, video games, we cover all of it. Everything in the horror business. We try. And it started out kind of as a let's let's do this, like you want to do it, Okay, let's do it. Then we just started doing it and Ben was like, well put it on the network. That's awesome. We've made it a full show out of it. Now it's like, you know, uh, okay, so I can I get let me just arout. I guess say. The Conspiracy Horseman is is great. I mean, there's there's no two

ways around it. I mean that you want to talk about some topics that come by that can really mess with the old noodle and get you thinking. It's it's always fun to get the four different takes that you guys have. We just had Richard Gage On, one of the architects for he has the you know, he follows Get the Truth of nine to eleven, and he has all the scientific facts and all these issues that people ignore. So he came. He was he was a great guest.

I'll be honest. I thought it was going to be really stiff and stodgy, and I was like, I wasn't kind of looking forward to it. I was worried. He got on. My man was he was ready to go. He took his jacket off. He threatened Stevie his jacket off. Yeah, he pulled his jacket off the end of the show, and we're like, anytime you want to go, and he goes right now, he took his jacket off, and he goes and I'll go right after that guy on the

right lower hand corner. And it was so we just Richard Gage wants to punch Stevie Richards right in the face. I pay to see that. I pay a dollar for that match. That would be good. So if they want to see you, they go to the Russo Network and you got a couple of and then Hamin Media Network where the hard junk yard. So we got and we got some more stuff coming up. We're gonna be maybe going to more conventions once, I hope. So I hope

to see you next year. I'm not doing anything this year just because this year it was a shit show. Well you know, a little little thing here and there is happening out there if you didn't hear about it. But hopefully twenty twenty one we can get the gang back together and get that mine cup flowing again. I would enjoy that. So, you know, I kind of I kind of miss you. I'm trying to who was it?

Somebody was Somebody sent me the video of after You and You and Beautiful Billy doing an interview, and I kept walking through. He kept coming through and trying to like interrupt, and I just kept going said, would you get the hell out of here, Like here's a thing. Let me ask you a question. Now, you've you, you were there, you've seen it. At any point, did it

seem like I have heat with you? Oh? Well, I think Bill thought, I think we're such good workers, that Bill, because somebody sent me the video of the link and they're like, I didn't realize you had heat with Franny, And I'm like, wait, when I watched the video I'm like, how do you get a heat out of that? I'm like, if any thing, like, just what is it? We were

just kidding around with each other. That's what I'm saying people, because people don't know the dynamic between you and I are, between anybody in that locker room, Like we could go on social media and have a fake fight and and they'll believe it. And then we're texting each other, Oh my god, do you do you believe that they're falling

for this? I mean that convention, I walked by, Uh there was a group around RVD and I walked by and I showed it him right, and I showed him and he walked and he went out and I got move your fucking arm and I just kept walking right and he stopped and he looked. Somebody caught a picture of him doing this like yeah, and it's like and then he turned around and he's like, oh, hey, Johns, how's up. And I'm like hey, but I'm like how he's going? And so we started. But they they completely

didn't take those pictures. They got the picture of me fucking bumping him and him turning like this and give him the fucking look. And I'm like it's great because they want to stir stuff up. Everybody's like, that's what we were saying earlier. You always hear of negative things because people love controversy. People don't put over the positive enough in life, and it's it's unfortunate. But I mean, we're workers. We're workers until we die. We can work anyone,

so that's that's just in our blood. That's how it is. I hate your guts. I never want you on my show again. It was a pleasure to have him. You don't have to be so mean to him, jeez, I thought it was such a pleasure to have him on. The biggest asshole I've ever met in my life is right there on the screen. But seriously, I have not talked to you. What do you say. I thought you were talking about measurements of assholes, and I said, I know a girl who has a way bigger asshole. Oh my,

I don't know. I don't know. But it was actually why we'll talk about that later, But this was fine. This is I love getting the boys on and going down memory lane. So I'm glad you find came on because I've only been after you for I don't know months now, yea, she said that, and then this will be this will be the uh ah, you're never around. Hey, what are you doing? What? I can't do it today? How about me? Did I not invite you and your wife to my house right after you got married? Yes?

How long have you been married? Bad memories? How long have you been there? Dude? I try not to remember. How long have you been married? Hang on? So ten, twelve, thirteen, seven years, seven years, seven years ago, I say to sale, come over, have dinner with me and my family seven years, seven years ago. I might be getting out by now. Well, nanks, stickhead anyway, offer still stands if you want to come over after the pandemic. Okay, whatever, we'll keep in touch.

Thanks for coming on? Oh where can people find you? You don't tweet? No, I don't. I'm off Facebook. Don't tweet. You're the worst Instagram things. You're not good. You're not good with the social media media. Fu everybody on it. Okay, well, fuck you and thanks for coming on and love you, and uh but we will wait. I got plugs. I do have to okay, go ahead. So, and I'm terrible. I's it's like I if I did not have the guys with me on the show. I would never put

my own ship over, so I don't remember it. That's why social media is important. The hard junk Yard at ProtonMail dot com. That's how you can get us in the hard junk yard. I have a phone number. It's a hot line. You can call us, but I don't remember it right now. So that's a great perk. You can't remember. It's the worst mean media network you can look on there. You can get the Horsemen, you can get all of our shows. You're on the Russo Network. No I'm not. I'm off of the network. What you do?

I pulled myself why because I have a Patreon and people were getting confused. Why do I have to go on Russo's Patreon when I'm on your patreon. They couldn't hear my podcast. Oh, so I said, this isn't helping Vince. I gotta go. Yeah, I'm I'm to be honest, like everybody's involved in the Vince Russo, Vince Russo brand stuff. And Vince is another guy I knew back from Johnny Rod's days when he's down a video store. Right. He

discussed that on my show as well. In his video store yes, all right, soal well, get on get on Twitter, get us live on Twitch, Conspiracy Horsemen with twitch tv, backslash Conspiracy Horseman something like that, and then hard junk Yard we do. We don't do it live but after on Wednesdays, uh my producer Chuck, we do uh it again. It's twitch TV, twitch tv dot com, backslash hard Yard, and we do love video game streaming, so we funk

off there and just make fun of people. Awesome. Well, when this comes out, we will promote your stuff because you don't, so I will, and I will help you have other people that do it, they want to do it. Well, I got people good. Okay, you're good, You're You're awesome. Glad to see you. Keep in touch, dad, it was very nice meeting you. Tell your lovely husband. I will speak to him soon. He will speak to you soon.

Talks more than him than he does to me. Thanks a lot, all right, love, Good to see you, big jerk, And there goes big So I got that in or not so big? Soal, I mean, he's not as big as he used to be. No, and that's why I said a lot of people probably won't recognize him. He lost a ton of weight. So he walks into conventions and like, everybody's like, who is that guy? Yeah, I'm like, oh that's big sales grows on you. So yeah, I

for our people. I mean, we talked about Sal a couple of weeks ago when we talked about the Scott hall An e CW we talked about Sal. Yes, yes, yeah, he's an old old dear friends of mine and one of the people I keep in touch with. But I haven't really seen him, you know, we see each other at conventions, but tried to get him the comfort dinner and lazy. I love the story though about the mine cup,

Like that's the cool shit I like to hear about backstage. Yeah, I'd rather hear that shit all day long than foods dropped. Toe Hold was better than the other guy. We we did so many things with the mine cups in different towns, like that cop was all over the place. It was just it was such a such fun just you know, keeping ourselves busy and yeah, very nice. Yeah. Well, you know, look, this week is gonna be loaded. We'll just run it down really quick what you're going to be seeing for

the rest of the week on Patreon. Here the first we're gonna kick it off tomorrow. We have a very funny topic, just a little little thought I had about cameo, and we're gonna talk about different cameo profiles and people who call themselves certain things on there, and it's it's

a very funny, you know, back and forth. I could say that, then we're gonna go get real deep, real freaking deep, like if franccene revealed in the interview with sal there she gets a little emotional and there's some some mind blowing questions that we have no choice, but we have to pick this up again because there was so many and it was even though it was a little little Craig Cray was it was interesting to answer some of these. Yeah, yeah, but you like going deep

sometimes sometimes. And then of course for the watch along, we close it out the art of the entrance. We talked about him before. We see him on every match and every whatever, but we look at a couple of them and we kind of see the differences between them, and and Francine gives a little insight into, uh, you know, maybe some of the psychology of entrances and how much they really play a part in the in the outcome and the match itself. So yeah, it's impact interesting, interesting

to look at quite indubitably. Yeah, but I mean, you know, if you want to follow me, it's at chatt E and B on Twitter, and uh, you know, check out all the podcasts, dim A Conversations, Triple Threat, uh do one called the New Generation Declassified. Check all that ship out. Just go look at it, listen to it, whatever you got to do. Just have fun on here, and please share it, like and tweet all of our stuff and

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