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get it going right here, right now. This is Eyes up here, and you're watching live, brand new Eyes up here being recorded and I guess being broadcast in the future on a couple of different places, one our Patreon channel, which we'll talk about, and to the Creative Controlled Network, which we'll also talk about. But if you didn't know by now, my name is Chad and every single week I'm joined here bye the one and only the Queen of Extreme on her channel, It's Francine. Good morning, and

we are live here on Twitch. Ladies and gentlemen. Let's just first of all, we got some bits given by Rod Robinson this morning, so I just want to say Rod, thank you for the bits. And every time I get bits, I sing a little song. Would you like to hear it? I would love to hear it. I sing and I say thank you for the bits, my friend, thank you for the bitch, thank you for the bits, my friend, Thank you for bitch. So Rod's starting us off with

some bits. I love it. Good morning to everyone. Christy and Betty and Tony are here, and we're gonna get some more people in the room. But I had a brainstorm. I was like, hey, Chad, why don't we do a live eyes up here and just show everybody what they're missing by not being on the Patreon channel. So here we are on this lovely Friday morning, and I are you feeling, well, we're eliminating the illusion of our show being broadcast four days a week, and now we're actually

showing that we recorded a couple of days prior. Well. Still, it's a peak behind the curtain, and I love that about podcasting or film or television. I love when we can kind of peel the onion back a little bit and show everybuddy what it's all about. But yeah, this is our Friday morning every single week around this time, or a couple hours usually ending. We're exhausted. So we're fresh right now, and that's the good part. Yeah, we we just logged on, so it's it's a good thing.

But I'm excited. I'm excited to cross over to twitch and let my Twitch audience see what our Patreon members get to see so, you know, a little something for everyone today. So I'm excited. Yes, question, I failed to negotiate the bits into my part of the Eyes up Here recording. Yeah, you don't get that. I failed to negotiate that this is my game. I got to talk to my agent about this, so I didn't get the bit negotiation. When we decided to go live sorawing board, well,

well here's what I thought we would do. I figured we would do a little bit of chit chatting first and then maybe get some questions live from the viewers that are in the room. Good morning to everyone. There's more people coming in, so maybe we'll do that and uh and see where this episode takes us because you never know what's going to be said in the chat. You never know. But that's the cool part about it being live now with us, we either do it in

two formats. We either have a guest featured, which we've been a few weeks since we brought on a guest. But I've gotten feedback that they love the banter that we have back and forth. And I always did about our podcast is that it's very like morning show esque, you know, like We've got that good vibe back and forth, the good cop, bad cop kind of thing, and I really dig that being a radio you know, efficionado like

I claim to be. If we were live every week like this on Twitch, I think I would pull Kathy Lee to have a break next start early eleven am here, but it's five pm somewhere else, so that would be fun. But let's just get into some wrestling news. The big story, well, I think it's a big story anyway. I don't know if anybody else will. Tammy Sitch is out of prison. Yes, she is home. I hear she's relaxing. She's taken it

easy for a while, and I'm excited for her. I feel like I you know, I said this before about Tammy. I love Tammy. She's been my friend for gosh over twenty years now, and I really pray that everything's going to work out for her this time. You know. I think, like before, a lot of people want her to fail, they want to see her fall again, and I'm not one of those people. I want her to learn from her mistakes. I want her to get on the right

path and flourish. And you know, I know it's been a long what is five five years for her or something like that, maybe even longer. Yeah, it could be. I don't I don't know the timeframe, but I just I just hate when you know, people who are public figures, you know, fall, they they come across bad times, and people just make fun of them, you know, and they ridicule them. And I'm just praying that she just gets on the right path and you know, things work work

out for her this time. So I'm going to play my interviewer role. Of course. Now have you spoken with her since she has been I have not. No, I have not. I feel like I didn't want to just you know, pounce on because I'm sure a lot of people probably did. Yeah, and you know, a lot of people probably want stuff from her, and you know, she's right out of jail. Let's get her on the show or I don't want her to think I'm coming at her just for you know, to use her for the

show or something like that. Right, right, right. I'll get in touch with her in a little bit, but she needs time to just decompress and relax and get her head on straight. And I'm sure she's got a plan her next move. Yeah, I remember, I mean this is talking in the early days when we first started in twenty nineteen, Like I believe she was actually very close to coming on at one point, yes, and then like just stuff started rolling downhill and that snowball took effect,

and yeah, I am in the same bar. I hope everything works out. She's an unbelievable talent, you know, she's got any time she does an interview, it turns heads. Anything she says has a microscope on it. But she's usually a straight shooter. And uh yeah, I mean, you know, I hope everything works out Sonny days ahead, right, Let's hope. So I'm sure I'll see her down the road somewhere, because you know, in this business you always bump into people. So I wish her the best, and you know, I'll

say I'll sorry in rev. I'll say this too. For anybody watching or hasn't seen this before. You did a shoot interview with Tammy years ago, probably twelve thirteen years ago. But it's still great because all the stories are hilarious and it's literally just the two of you laughing for like two hours, and that shows you the friendship you guys have. It's in discapsule of time. Yeah, I mean she you know, she was at my wedding. We've kept

in touch, you know, this whole time. Pretty much. I don't talk to her that often, but you know, it's one of those people where you can pick up the phone and it's like time never lapsed, you know what I mean. That that's how Tammy and I are. And that interview was hilarious because she actually farts during the interview. When she does it, I can't stop laying. It's like, hious. She doesn't care. She's just that's how Tammy is. She just doesn't care. So I honestly I wish her the best.

I love her dearly, and I hope things work out. I really do. Yeah, no, absolutely, that was a pretty big story. And it seems like, you know, anytime I've said this before, the legends and the older statesmen of the business seem to be the more interesting, and now as the wrestling product seems to materialize in different ways, I think people are always looking to see what's going on with the legends. And you know, she's a great story. I hope it turns around. But let's see what else

we got in the world. You know, there's other stories to talk about. Yeah, what have you heard? Is there anything going on that in relation to just other wrestlings, Yeah, or anything. I mean there's a ton of stuff that's happening. I mean this WWE sale rumor and all that stuff. I mean, it's just fixated on them selling them. I'm only fixated on it because I can't picture it not being under that McMahon umbrella. And you know, I from

what I've been told, family members don't want it. If it is going to be held in the family, they don't want it. So so why are they Why is the selling port coming up? Or is numbers like, are the numbers so bad that they want to get rid of it? No, the numbers are good. They're just trying to if you if you look into the rumor of okay, uh, you know, liquidating assets to make the portfolio look bigger. That's where all these releases come from. Otherwise, their TV

deals are off the charts. They're you know, their their their revenue that they've made in terms of the pandemics that off the charts. They've let so many people go. There's just money flowing throughout the company. But the way you look at it is they're positioning to move, and that's why I am fixating on it because I cannot picture those three letters being owned by another entity, whether it's Fox or Disney or you know, whoever comcasts whoever.

I can't picture it. And that's why I'm so fixated on it, because it's almost like you don't want to see the McMahon's not running WWE. It's it's a weird thing not see Vince giving up his company. I can't either. That's why I'm fixated on it. Is there any truth to this rumor? It's just a rumor. Some people say it's ridiculous rumor and they're just being very cautious about their business. Others say, no, it's completely positioning to sell. But what a time to do it, you know, And

I've We've joked, I've said it a million times. Walk through Disney World, look at any open space and be like, I could see WWE land right there. Let's that would ruin my experience. Let's go on the Extreme Championship Wrestling roller coaster. Let me let me interrupt you. Our listener, Christy from New Jersey says w W is allegedly making a Hall of Fame at Universal Studios in Orlando. Yes, been rumored. Yeah, I can see it. I can absolutely

see it. They need that physical building For some people in the business that don't buy into the WWE Hall of Fame concept, a physical building could change that all. But you know, again, who's going to be calling the shots, who's going to be doing it in five six years? And that's that's why I'm fixating on. I just can't see a big irishman not owning that company. I can't see it. I need to interrupt and put over Rod

Robinson again because we have some more bits. So thank you for the bits, my friend, Thank you for vice. Thank you for the bit, my friend, thank you for vit. Rod Robinson with VIZ, thank you so much. Okay, back to what we were saying, one little building. I can deal with a building, a section in a theme park. I don't want a whole theme park related to w W A that I don't want. Don't do that. You see, if you see the Scooby Doo WrestleMania Mystery, that's what

the whole uh w W theme park. I just I don't I you know, I don't even think it should be in a theme park. They should have it somewhere else, Like, can't they have it in Stanford, Connecticut where the office is? Like? Why did I have do? Well? They're getting rid there. I think they might be in the process of or moving Titan Tower. They had apparently purchased a new building and we're going to move out of Titan Tower. Help

make Titan Tower the damn Hall of Fame. That's the one, you know, park on the roof and then let everybody go through the building. Are they going to move Titan towers to Universal? You know? But it's weird that they've moved so much to Florida. Yeah, I mean it seems like a logical spot. You know. Vince has been known to leave suits in Goodwill in Florida at the Performance Center. That's another place. Why isn't it there? The other side,

I don't want it at my theme parks. My theme park experience is to get away from things that I have to do all the time. Right. I just want to go there and not be reminded of anything. I want to go there with a smile on my face and no stress and eat what I want and go on rides. I don't want to have to turn around and see a big statue of I don't know of Triple H. The biggest statue in the building for Triple A like this with his arms out in the water

coming out. It's a Triple H fountain with the water you go into like Muppet where the Muppets are, and instead of Muppet vision you have w W vision and the fountain with Miss Piggy is exactly here. Tony Tony J thirty seven says, would there be an e c W section sell some foam barbed wire batter kids? I can see it. Could you imagine? Could you imagine walking around with a foam board war? Absolutely? Could it would be. I'm telling you the e c W they're going to

rename it. It's not gonna be Aerosmith. It's gonna be the ECW Rock and roller Coaster. The ACW theme music's playing for the whole thing. And every time you go around the corner, there's France scene, there's the franchise, there's really then they don't even use the real theme music that they had the rights to on the network. You think they're going to use it in a ride if

we ever got a ride. So I've come across, we've talked about that before, like they're they're dubbing and how bad it is, and obviously you know they're not going to use Perfect Strangers. They're not gonna use you know, all the great ECW music. But the one they put with you and Shane like originally was like this, like weird, I don't muzak right, But they've kind of adapted a little and they've got like a more cover version of Perfect Strangers, so it's a little more in the beat

where you guys are moving. But before it was like do do do do do do? Yeah, Sandman's song was pure elevator music. At one point I was like what I what is this? I don't get in it. I'll never get it. But that's okay, but no, I don't want that at my theme parks, So keep that away, please do do something. There's another word Jay thirty four four four. If Nick con gets his way, he'll go for the biggest deal he can her. I lost the comments. Sorry, I was reading too slack giant at it any other

way than a deal to make him money. So there's Nick Khan is an executive that's been brought in that has a reputation for kind of cleaning up books. So that's another reason why people say maybe it's to sell now. Nick Khn was also recently mentioned by another con mister Tony Khan in a promo talking about a rumored WWE New Japan deal. And Tony Khan did something that, you know, the way I learned wrestling, you don't do. You do not mention the other company, not in the way ACW did,

but the way Tony Khan did, naming executives. Finally, in a promo about New Japan Pro Wrestling, WWE thinks they're negotiating. Well, I've been talking to New Japan for months. I got to push my arms up when I do it, like, oh yeah yeah. So but Nick Con, it's a pretty big deal, pretty big, big wig heavy. We should get Nick Con on the show. Clean up our books, our books. I'm dirty, maybe for the bits, for the bits. An e CW wreck room would be awesome. Yes, I can

see that as well. Cattle says that a wreck room meaning everything would be all over the place because it would look like the old arena, which can ship just everywhere. It would be great. I would love it. I just don't want that. I don't know. I like I said, I don't want to go somewhere and be reminded of something that I do back home. It's an escape for me, so I don't I don't want it anywhere near my my theme parks alans Hi, frand I missed the bikini

stream again. Alan, Really, you need to get your life together because you miss every single one of them and then you get sad of it. So you'll make it someday. How about this next one? Can you guys discuss Dark Side of the Ring. This is Big beefy seventy two. Can you guys discuss Dark Side of the Ring? Dynamite Kid was on last night. Francine not a big fan of Dark Side of the Ring, and that's something we've talked about a lot on the podcast. Why don't you

explain why? Well, I've never seen an episode of I actually I know I saw. I watched some of the Mula one because I was just interested in, you know, what their take on her was, the story that was presented. I know what I heard backstage, you know, from people, so I wanted to see how it was presented. For the most part, I am not a fan of this show. I just feel like for me, wrestling has a dark cloud over it. It always has, it always will. Most of the stories that come out or negative. This show

tends to focus on the negative part of the wrestling business. Yes, and I just don't. I don't like that. I want to see happy stuff. I don't want to sit here, Especially if you watch an episode of a guy or a girl that you admire and that you love so much and they're your favorite, and then you find out, well they beat their wife or they were a drug user, or they killed somebody, It's like, what a downer? I just I'm not a fan of that kind of journalism.

I don't like it. So and I know this shows huge. It's popular. People love it, and that's okay. If you want to watch it, you can. It doesn't appeal to me at all. Yeah, I tend to agree because it's not the portrayal i'd like to see. Wrestling have to the outside masses, and those are the people that are

going to go by the and see it now. I did watch The Ultimate Warrior Dark Side of the Ring on my flight back from Boston the other day, and I gotta say, actually really did enjoy it because it actually had his first wife on and it was kind of compelling. The way she explained how he went from being Jim Helwig to being the Warrior and how that

completely killed their marriage. And he went from being a very, very dedicated husband who was striving to really make it in the business and trying to doubt all the people that said he sucked and wasn't not going to make it too. He gets the belt, becomes a warrior and you know, she's catching and cheating in the hotels. He's

not coming home anymore, and that well, it's fascinating. But the way she explained it, it it wasn't you know, three luminaries saying oh yeah, you know, like Jim Cornette was not killed him. Jim Ross was on it killed him. This was at the wife's perspective, and I thought that was an interesting take. It's it's very interesting, don't get me wrong. Concept is a brilliant concept. Just for me. I just I don't know, I don't like the negative

aspect of the wrestling business. Like I've seen so much in my twenty eight years that I've been a part of this wacky world and like you know, especially when you know the people that are on there, like that's another thing, Like you know the Benoir one. I'm Nancy. Yeah, I couldn't sit there without feeling some emotions and like, watch an hour. It would just bother me. So I didn't even want to. I don't want to relive that again.

I don't know. I just I'm all about puppies and kiddies and rainbows and unicorns and stars, and I agree, And I mean there are a lot of great wrestling stories that they could tell that. You know, obviously it's a dark side, right, I was just saying, this is a dark side. Now. One recommendation, don't watched the Grizzly Smith, Jake, the Snake, Roberts, you know, really in Smith, the whole Smith. Don't watch it. Well, I'm not playing to watch any of it. Oh it's bad Grizzly Smith. Do you know

Grizzly Smith. I've heard, okay, Jake's dad, Sam, Houston's dad, Rock and Robin's dad baby Doll who we had on a couple of months. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the dark side, Well, grizz was not not good, not a good man. No, no, no. If you're a huge fan and then you'd sit down and you watch that and then you're like, oh my God, now you hate this guy. Go out for Rock and Robin Jake's sister, Jake. I don't want to see that kind of stuff. And Houston, I mean, you know, I haven't.

I've never interviewed Rock and Robin. I've interviewed Jake, I met Jake, Sam Houston. Yeah wow. So uh. Nori says negativity sells, That's why people won't admit it, but it sells as a whole. Ivy Girl says the creators actually do a great job and are respectful to the families. In her opinion, to family gets a platform that tell their part. Uh, let's see Big Beefy like the Warrior

docs on A and E. Uh. And Boss Pedal says, one thing in favor of Dark Side is that it allows wrestling history to be told from a perspective that isn't by w That's a very good point. Yeah, that is a good point. But still it just seems to me like all the stories are just more so negative and it's I don't know, it just makes me sound They did they did a New Jack episode. Yeah, and they did. They might have done one other ECW topic.

They have not touched ECW yet, and I feel like ECW is going to get like its own season, the way they haven't even gone remotely close to outside of Benoi mentioned it a little bit New Jack Obviously, I haven't touched on E c W, and I feel like it's coming. I feel like it's really coming with all the depths. Yeah, a season, you know, you unless they just mentioned names in like an hour episode. But if that's that's another thing I wouldn't really want to watch.

That would depress the hell out of me. I don't know, I don't like it, big Beefy Francine. Would you ever do a biography on your life? I'm there. No, I'm there. No, my life is not because it's boring. It's a happy story. Yes, you're not bitter, You're not. I had a really good childhood, right. Uh. You know, I went to Catholic school my whole life. I started wrestling at twenty, I believe. And now i'm a mom husband, you know my husband, I have my

mom's here with me. Yeah, exactly. Your fine. I'm sorry. I'm a cookie cutter. It's sugarcoated. Uh. And I'm blessed and I'm happy about it. And I feel like people want me to dish the dirt and it's all up in the vault. I know everything, and I'm not telling you I can't. I'm not breaking wrestler code, so to speak. That's not a work as she doesn't know at this stage in my life. Why am I just going to sit here and and just shit on people? And what

would that do for me? I believe that people who do that look bitter and just ridiculous when they bury other people. What's the point, you know? I just don't. I don't see it, so it's not gonna happen. But everybody who follows me or has you know, uh seen me, they know that I'm a happy person and that I'm I'm living the life I've always wanted to live right now. You know, it's not all about money, kids I have. I have something more valuable than money, and that's my family.

It's all about fluffy ducks and roses. Fluffy ducks. Sure, why not? Speaking of fluffy duck us love my trip right now and I'm excited. Yes we are. We are in the planning stages and uh, we're getting the ball rolling and we're staying on property we decided and last one yeah, and they just emailed us again two days ago, twenty five percent off running running the we're running out of time to book and you want it for free? No, you know, we figured it out, like staying on property

is more. But if you add in the uber cost, because we paid it for six hundred dollars and ubers on the last trip, so take that six hundred. Just at it. We break out even, so we might as well stay on property. It's a new breaker, feel that. Yeah, So we're doing it, and I'm really excited. I'm getting I'm getting them getting a little excited about it. You're gonna just rush the rest of the year. I'm just gonna push July through December. I got to get there, man,

you know. And and the mask mandate is just almost gone. And I feel like when we get there, everything's going to be back to normal and I can't wait. I can't wait. So the mask, I believe right now, you don't need to wear it outdoors at all when you're in line at the queues. You have to put it on when you come up to the front to go into the indoor cues, and you still have to wear them on rides, But I think that's going to be gone soon. So again, I wrote down all my restaurants

that I need recupations. Fork like I am, I'm ready to go. You could share with everybody where you're going if you'd like. I'm going to Disney World. That's where I'm going. So Noori says, not every celebrity would want all their details out there. Makes sense. Fans don't respect your privacy. Alan says I'm still hot. Af how about that? Thank you? Alan, big Beebe says I'm sure you Jay walked once in a while. Yes, I have and never got caught. Thank you. Undertaker Fan eighty two says I'm

still sexy. Well, thank you guys. Deadpool well said we need a Francine remote visiting all amusement parks in the country. Well, I did go live on Twitch for four days from my last trip, and I planned to do it again. We have a oh, a brand new viewer in the house. Fro Lomino Prolomeo. I can never pronounce names. Welcome to the party. I'm gonna call you Fro. I make up little names for everyone if I can't pronounce them. So fro Fro says, Hey, there a brand new viewer. Quick question.

I'm about two months into my wrestling training. Would y'all have any tips for a beginner? Maybe share some advice on pain management? Too? Oo? Okay, so Fro there is no pain management. You are going to be in constant pain, but won't let that throw you throw you off your game. I feel like if you show up, keep your mouth shut, keep your ears open, and just do what your trainers tell you, you'll be fine. The ones who are opinionated are the ones who get in trouble. That's that's my

advice to you. Why say that, because that's don't want to hear newbies give them, you know, advice or what they should do in the ring. He's been working for not even working, he's training two months. Yeah, you can't walk into a building and tell, you know, a guy like Taz, well I think I should do this today. Taz will be like the hell out here go? Or if you walk in favoring something and complaining about it, is it our odds are in the favor of your

So let me let me ask you this though. So obviously you know when you started training and you took the bumps, what was the that made you be like? WHOA? I can't believe that hurt that much. You know, it wasn't even a bump. It was running the ropes, oh okay, with the with the hitting on the side. Running the ropes killed my body deep purple, not the band my skin, just running the ropes would make me. I was bruised from under my armpit to my hip, just purple, purple, purple.

And that hurt me the most, you know. And then when when you learned to take your back bumps, I was constantly hitting my head and you know they'll tuck your chiners, but well it's like whip, it's whiplash. You're automatically going back. I can't even tell you how many times I hit my head in practice try because they make you stand like this and just fall backwards, you know, and it's awkward. You're not supposed to fall Your body

is not supposed to take this trauma. And every single time I would hit my head and I would go home with a headache after every practice. But you just have to shake it off and continue. How about any punches that might have hit the mark by accident in those first I don't think I've ever Yeah, I might have stiffed a couple people by accident. I remember one

time I stiffed Stevie by accident. They wanted me to jump up and he was running the roops and like give him a leg to the back and I really, I really like got my knee and he went down and I was like, oh my god, like I was so green. I didn't I wasn't sure how to work like hold it and work the leg, you know what I mean, like it. You have to learn. There's a lot to it. But I wish you luck, Hun and I hope everything works out for you. And Fro you

hit your head a few times. Yeah, it makes you nauseous. I remember the first my Triumph match up. I went, I ran to the back, I threw up. It was all it was disgusting, it was all bile, all war. Oh yeah, I was sick to my stomach. And a lot of people after their first match throw up. So Mike Durban's here from Get My Go, Mike's been thank you for bits, my friend, Thank you for bits, Thank you for bits, my friend, Thank you for bits. Mike. Thank you. We're glad you're here. Oh I missed something,

hold on, I want to go back, can I? Jay says, have you ever hung out in the Star Wars cantina. It was really fun, but super hard to get into. Jay, I've been to Galaxy's Edge a bunch of times now, but no, we we haven't gone in the cantina. My kids won't eat that food, and to be honest with you, the food looks like not appetizing to me. Some of the drinks looked cool, but no, we haven't been in there. I'd like to go in there for the experience maybe, but uh yeah, have not uh part taken in any

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Somebody said, I guess it was fro about hitting the ropes. Did you feel the difference between the cables and then those WWE ropes, those those that just I don't know, they looked like they had a little bit more give than the cables ever, did I never ran the ropes in w do You never even went in to try it because oh, she just figured you didn't need it. When they said here's your bikini. You were like, yeah, today, when Bence told me we don't do that here, I

was like, okay, we don't do anything. I'm not going to do anything. There was that question and I'll just wipe that one off to you. Yeah, No, it's it's it was a different experience. And again, like my training was not extensive because two months in I did my first indie show and started working a little bit as a manager, and then I started with ECW on house shows. So right away, like the training kind of stopped. And then Paul was like, you're not going to wrestle, so

you know, we're going to learn as we go. Yeah, that's pretty much what happened. So now Jay went for the drinks. I got you, Jay. So I was going to say, and the rest, as they say, is history. It's history. Yeah. I mean I thought I was going to be this this women's wrestler and do all this stuff. But you know, Paul had a different vision for me,

and it worked. So can you imagine if it didn't work in that way and you were less a ladies wrestler but you were wearing like the old attire from like the Mula days, you know, like the big bathing suit with like the you know, the nice tie like heavy she exactly imagine that, and that's your era of like bring a tire. You never got into like these

fancy ones. Yeah, well, I mean whatever works. You know, did you ever have any ring attire made at all, like for wrestling outside of just your regular You never had anything specifically made just the shorts for just the shorts, but never like anything fancy, big show just the case they need, no because I would buy, Like when I actually wrestled, I bought pre made outfits. It was easier, and I figured I'd wear it once and sell it, do you know me? That's what I did. And you know,

it's funny. You see how much these tires and these outfits must cost the today, and you think that when they do look to move it eventually, are they getting the money back that they're it's costing me. When you're a worker, when you're a wrestler, you can invest in three or four outfits and rotate that and that's okay, and then you have one good pair of boots to wear. When you're a manager, you have to buy like a new outfit every week. At least I did. That's what

I did. I think I spent more money just buying clothes every week for you know, for TV tapings and stuff. If I was a wrestler, I could have just bought gear and hey, this is my gear. I've won and red and won in blue. I'm just gonna rotate. It would have been I would have saved so much money. Oh, I'm sure you would have instead. You know, all those tires are long gone and all over the world and somebody's basement and attic and bedroom and wherever else. Yeah,

thank you everyone for coming in the room. I see a bunch of people came in since we started aw Golden Hello, we have Nicole here. Nicole says, my favorite swerve in wrestling was when Francine betrayed the Pitbulls and joined forces with Seane Douglas. That was epic and I loved it. Frazine is one of the toughest women in wrestling history with three little hearts, and that's why she reigned supreme in my heart. Well, Nicole, you are adorable, and I thank you for that, for those kind words.

It's very sweet of her working with Shane. I think put me on the map. I say it all the time. That turn on the Pipples was just my big break and got I didn't break anything going through that table, by the way, but it was a good time and you know, it lasted those three and a half years, and if Shane didn't leave, I think we would have went on for eternity. Big Josh Paul's different vision was huge and monumental. I totally agree with you. There's great reference. Yeah,

Christy says, did I ever get a concussion? I've had more than one concussions, yes, and they I think that's probably why I can't remember anything these days, right, Ray, Well, it's Francine. You have a polaroid of you and I from when I did a signing in New Jerkersy. Well that was obviously before twenty ten. You know. One of my kids yesterday said something about a polaroid because it popped up on their YouTube, and I said, oh, I have a polaroid camera. Oh you do, I have a

little different Now they're like this, they're very small. Yes, they're like this now small too, very small, and I don't think they're as good as they used to be. No, mine is huge. Mine is huge. And I always loved when you would take a picture and like in the corner it would be like the gray and the guy would be like, oh, this picture's rue. They have to do it again, and I'm like, oh, Frank, okay, let's go.

It's easier now with the cell phones for sure. Signing in New Jersey okay, And I know my signings very well in the New Jersey state. Okay. I'm sure it was that a flea market, because that's usually where the ECW signings where they were in flea markets, they usually work their way around. But I also would like to know. Was it in the middle of the ring at a shelf? Possibly? Right? Very Where were we? Uh? On those three? Where where were we? I don't know. No, it was at a

street fair in Bay Owned, New Jersey. Look at me. I'm now I'm completely a street fare. It was it Tommy Dreamer and myself. I remember we did an Italian street fair gimmick Tommy and I and they had I want to say it was test from w W E. I don't know if it was tested. Stay, yeah, that's it, okay. And I remember Tommy just kept saying, we're out drawing tousing people. Our life looks like longer or something, and I was like, oh god, but they had a great

food there. Oh yeah, they had like the sausage sandwiches and then prove alone and all the edge. Oh it was edge. Okay, I'm sorry. I thought it was tested. Was it? I don't remember, but Tommy just kept gluting because our line was longer than theirs, and I was just like, Okay, I don't know who booked us there or why we were there, but we were there. That's pretty good. Nothing beats that polaroid in the center of the ring though, at the end of the show. Yeah,

that's a big deal. That is a big deal. We did a lot of those back in the day. But I still have my camera upstairs, so I don't think it's worth anything. But I think I have that in a pack of film. The film might be worth more than the camera. I don't know. I think it expires. Yeah, I mean it probably does in some way. But you know, I'm sure you get that thing in the corner when nobody likes the part that didn't develop, you have to

do it again. It's got to be twenty ten because I know my bachelor party, we went to a jap W show before we went to the second part of the bachelor party. And I have a Polaroid with Demolition as well as my TMPT partner John, his brother Jay, and my brother Doug. We're all with Demolition. So it's part of my uh my bachelor party. That was two thousand and nine. So that's Lily, that's not that long ago. That's only twelve years. So you you took the time

out of your bachelor party to put wrestling in. Here's what it was, was a wrestling theme bachelor party. Oh god stop, I keep in mind, you know, this is mid twenties. This is not like I'm not, you know, my late thirties now mid twenties. Everybody wearing nWo. Okay, we were a nWo. Okay, I'm perfectly fine to admit that party bus picked everybody up in my house, went to JP show, and then we went to the after party. We'll just leave it at then, Okay, you don't want

to discuss the after party. I'll just leave it at that. Those who were there, no, and that's the end of it. You know, I say that very often. If you know, you know, and that's exactly it. But yeah, two thousand and nine, it was a Polaroid City back then, can you do well? I have mine. I need to show my kids because they still can't comprehend the phone on the wall with the cord and the turning the numbers, the rotary phone. I tried to let them know that I had one in my room, but they can't see it.

Did you did you ever work for Jersey all Pro? I think I did. I want to say they were pretty big for a while. I know the owner had died at one point, the Elks Lodge in Queens. I don't know, I don't. I remember always seeing them in like the Edison, New Jersey area or Railway New Jersey. But they yeah, they had a huge stranglehold on Jersey for many, many years. Always huge shows. Ivy Girl and

Christy they know, and they weren't there. I think I wasn't. No, no, no, no no no. That Tom Hanks movie Bachelor Party, what you Yeah? The Donkey came in much much later now. It was a great experience, very fun night. Blood a lot of blood, sweat and tears that night, that's for sure. I don't want to hear about the blood. But okay, so what else what else we got going on? I

don't know. Let's talk about Patreon. We're forty minutes into this Patreon, so we have some Patreon members in the chat, and if you're not a member of Patreon, you should be because this week, what are we doing? Chad, Well, I'll show you. I was going to talk about it first, but sure, we'll show you, and then we'll discuss kind of what we do this week. We got three additional shows besides Eyes up Here. This is the main show.

This is the flagship. You can catch this on Patreon in video and audio form, but if you don't want to, if you wait, you got it for about a week later on Creative Control Joe Feenie's podcast network in just the audio form. But we do three additional shows. We call them extras, and these are the three we're going to be doing this week. First, we're gonna look at ten ways to tell that you're a pro wrestler. Oh well, this was a meme that I saw about a week ago and I read a few and I was like,

you know what, this passes the smell test. I think this is something that you're either going to be like yes, or whoever wrote this has no business being anywhere associated with being a pro wrestler. I'm gonna say, whoever wrote that is not a wrestler, that's my guess. But okay, so that's cool. We'll get your take on that. Then this one, we've talked about the movie. I don't know

if you've seen yet. I haven't seen it, but I keep watching the trailers for it, and it just begs the question why, Okay, the Kruella movie, right, dude, I have not watched it yet. Okay, we're gonna just name something. Do they need a movie? Did Cruella really need her own movie? Really? Where's anybody really clamoring for Kruela Deville solo project? So we'll go over some things. Do they really need a movie? Because I mean, now they just say, dude,

it doesn't look like Kuela Deville. It looks like a Batman movie starring Kruela Deville. That's the way it looks to me. Okay, so that's it. Say it. I'll check it out too. Yeah, I'm still intrigued by it. And then also this week for our match the watch Along, So this one's not as crazy. We've done some crazy ones. The watch Along this week is our Thursday extra. It's where we sit down and we watch a match. Franccene gives us memories, thoughts, things that pop into her brain.

A lot of times it toggles memories that she doesn't recall right away, but this one I think you'll recall. This night, we're gonna watch Shane Douglas with Francine versus Chris Chetti from Wressell Palooza ninety seven. Now, this was the opening match because later on in the night Shane would lose the TV title to Taz. This is the first match of the night and it's you know, it's a great match with Cheddy getting a lot of close calls,

a lot of near falls. It's very cool and I thought this might be something something different, but this is what we like to do. Now we're really digging and finding stuff that Francine hasn't seen him forever and maybe never even saw at all in some cases. And this is the best part of the week. I don't really remember this. I adore Chris Chetty like I love Chris Chetty, but I don't remember this, so yeah, hopefully it triggers

my memory. But working first match, that's interesting. Yeah, we never this must have been the I don't remember ever opening this show unless it was a promo, it was the show opens Joey Styles and Rick rud Okay and then you guys are the first match, and then later on in the night, Taz would then become the TV Champion. And I actually and Shane just told me something about this match. I'll mention it on the Patreon that I

never knew. I don't know if you knew it either, but he told me something the other night about this, so we'll, yeah, we'll check that out. But again, that's the Thursday watch along and that to me, if you're an ECW fan, if you're an old school wrestling fan, this is this is the time to check out some of these stories. Because Francene had seen this stuff, so it's great to always toggle the old break. Yeah, and what's fun about it is it makes me remember things

not only in the ring, but before the match. After the match. You can only listen to it on our Patreon channel, like I won't. I don't discuss this stuff anywhere else, but it does make me remember certain things that happen. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. So I haven't watched anything from myself in years. And that's why when you pull these these matches up. I'm just I'm baffled because I don't even know what's out there anymore. Like you find all this stuff, I wouldn't even know

where to look because I know YouTube has been censored. Yeah, and they're pulling stuff left and right. So interesting for sure. A lot of stuff too. You gotta sometimes pull from the personal collection because it's the only way people are going to see it. So if they have the DVD. This one, the Wrestle Polouza DVD was actually released at one point, I think it was. I don't know if it was Pioneer or Delta. It was somebody had the yeah to release it. So this was from the DVD rip.

So you could still find this on eBay if you even want to watch it. But I'm gonna throw that up there to the Patreon dot com slash Francine podcast, I'm gonna up the ante here. I'm just gonna throw the gauntlet out. The next person who joins, I'm going to send them something very special. Should I say what

it is? Next person who joins, should I tell them an incentive for them to join, the next person who joins is going to get an eight x ten that's signed by both Shane Douglas and the Queen of Extreme Francine, fresh off one of my last private signings with the both of them. I'm gonna send the first person who joins our Patreon out of this is gonna get that free of charge. I'll ship it to you directly, and that's gonna up the anty a little bit. It's a

great picture. I should have brought it out. I had this in mine. I dropped the ball yet again. You'll see that happen every so often. I'm not always perfectly rated, but I try. Well, well, that is really nice. You better check your messages here to see if we get anybody to jump on that. But Patreon dot com, Slash Francine podcast, yes, and also at any tier level, we always have our members come on and do a Patreon

episode with us. So if you ever wanted the chance to just sit, get to know me, get to know Chad, you know you're you're able to come on and just chit chat. And I love to, you know, get to know you more, and I love to put a face with the name. And I just feel like we have a nice community and family atmosphere going and we have a lot of fun and I would love for you to join the party, so please consider joining our Patreon page. Party Hardy. We party, not Matt Hardy or Jeff Hardy. Hearty.

Let's look at some before we uh sign off. Here, Christy, you gotta come on. I've been trying to get Christy forever. Chrissy right back to one of my emails and get on. Come on, what are you waiting for? Let's do it. Rod Robinson's back in his wheels. He wheels back in waving. There you get Rod. Nicole says she seriously can't thank me enough for being her inspiration. Over the years, I've showed her that it's okay to be tough and still

be feminine. So I'm a lethal combination of strength and beauty. Well, Nicole, you are too, and thank you for the kind words. I appreciate you and everyone more than you guys know. CP dub Hello, Hello, you should get in on this CPW Wrestling. I'm telling you, the time's a ticking. We're Tony is a Patreon member. That sounds like a lot of fun. Tony. If you're a Patreon remember, have you come on the oppo? So you know what I'll get

the picture right now. I have one on my computer to finished by in her house and then she's gonna come to Patreon. Ivy, girl, we will be here when you close on that house, for sure. Girl. Hold on, I'm a to pull this up, serve. But it's a good one. Oh, it's a good one. And it's not going to be the vulgar one. Oh that's a special one that we need to do something special with that right now. That's in the Chadster collection because it's actually

it still needs your signature. You didn't sign it. No, you just drew a phallic symbol in the corner. No, you didn't sign it. You were so, I guess happy about your artwork. Here here it is ready if you join. Okay, next person to join. This is what I'm going to send you. Okay, look at that. I see that. That's pretty. Hey you guys, thank you for the raid. Yeah, I'll know who sent you over because it's not showing. But I appreciate you guys coming over a raid from w

z w A. Okay, well, thank you guys. Appreciate that. Welcome in every one, don't. I don't get this stuff, so I'm leaning on you phones so somebody else and did their broadcast and they sent their listeners over to us, so we're being raided. So welcome in. WZWA network is rating with a party of ten. So thank you guys. Welcome in. We're live Eyes up here podcast right now and we're just promoting our Patreon page and I love to see new names, Danny says. Since I'm late to

watch the first forty minutes, I'll watch the vod. That sounds good, Danny, and welcome to all the raiders. I appreciate it. So yeah, so we got to we have a good week ahead of us here on Patreon, and I just want to plug something real quick before we get into. Jim Wallino, who was a good friend of the show. He came on a referee for ECW. He had asked me to do a virtual signing with him. So we are going to be together the next weekend, which is the nineteenth, the day before Father's Day, and

the info will be on my Twitch page. I believe it's I want to say it's like three o'clock or something, but it's Jim Alino and I it's a Facebook live virtual and I'll have more info when we get a little closer, but I did post it on on Twitter and on IG so that's coming up. So I'm excited to see Jim. I haven't seen I've talked to Jim a lot, but I haven't seen him in a while in person, and I'm very, very excited. So hopefully there it is. Thank you, welcome. That's what I was doing.

I wasn't not talking that you were not looking at me. Yeah, So three o'clock on the nineteenth, which is next Saturday, it'll be myself and Jim and I don't know what the channel. I can't see what the channel is, but it's Facebook Live. But we'll have we'll have all the info on our Twitter. It says omg oh m g oh mg MG, oh my god, no, oh my goodness, it's all gotta go. I don't know, very small Brett Hart, but I just wanted to put Jim and I over.

I'm looking forward to hanging out with him. Uh. You know, we haven't done a road trip in twenty years together, so it'll be fun. I'm looking forward to that. And one more, thank you for the bits my friend, thank you for Bitz, thank you for Bit's my Friend, thank you for Bitch Rod Robinson with the bits. Thank you, bab, appreciate that. Will you be wearing the same similar attire to this virtual signing? I don't knowwhere in this picture. I mean you know this is that's the WWE shot. Yes, no,

that dress is long gone. I don't know what I'm gonna wear. I will wear something, Carlifornia. Jim is an awesome guy. Yes, he sure is. He is a friend of the podcast and a close friend of mine. I love Jim so much and I can't wait to spend the day with him. So I wanted to put that over. Hopefully you'll all tune in very nice. Sorry, well, I mean we got five minutes left in the hour. We could take some questions. Has any questions? Now is the time to type away and fill the last five minutes

five minutes and then I'll start as asking questions. Then what do I have on my mind? Rob Gaming says, good morning everyone, Well, good morning round Rob Patreon member, Good morning, good morning the Patreon I remember with the great voice. Remember oh yes that Oh yes, I complimented you, Rob, Yes see because he because I got to meet I got to meet him, I got to meet a lot

of you. Oh, shucks. Thanks. Yeah, if anybody has any any question within those last couple of minutes, feel free ask if not, you know, I appreciate you all coming. And I liked doing this live. This was Yeah, this was a lot of fun. What is my favorite city to travel to? Norri says, well, right now, it's Orlando, Florida. I'd love to go to Disney World. And yeah, oh, Tony, Tony's got a good question. You see this one. Any interest in being a part of the NWA Women's show

Mickey James is producing. No, Tony, I have no interest in being a part of anything anymore. Well, well with Nicky James, though, we'll be interested in promoting the supplements that are coming, so we will be talking about Nicky before we go. We're good. We're good, We're good. Okay, we're good. No, we're good. Yeah. I wish Mickey the best. I wish NWA the best, but I cannot I can't bump. I can't take bumps because of my surgeries. And I'm forty nine. People like, do you guys not realize my age?

I'm forty nine. I'm gonna be fifty years old next year, Like I heard thirty nine you did I heard thirty nine? Did you say? I know I heard that. I thought that's what my earphone said. No, I don't lie. At my age and forty nine, I feel like one hundred and nine and bumping is not in my future. So uh, Nicole says, if w W called you, would you consider going into the Hall of Fame. Well, let's be honest, Nicole, they're not going to call. Wait with your phone drinking

and pick it up. Oh wait, hi, excuse me. Oh it's a two oh three area code. Not about Yeah, I know it. Well, you know Rod Robinson is a member with mind blowing Stories. Yes, Rod came on the show and told us a little bit about what he's done in the past, and it was very interesting to say the least. Uh not to wrestle Tony. What am I going to do? Tony? Even being a manager, you have to get physical. Nobody wants to just see me stand there, you know. Yeah, Lenori, you wanted me to

do a three sixty off the top route. No, that happened, so simply no. No. Carl says, what's your favorite ride at Disney? People Mover so relaxing. I just love it. Yeah, all right, Well, you know, let me just end it with this. You never say never because you never know what kind of deal might come your way. So I'll never say never. But I'm pretty sure it's never. There's that little shred one percent chance you might see me somewhere. But you know who knows. I said it once before.

This was me saying it publicly. This is not francying the views expressor of the Chadster. Francine aw should have brought you in for a cameo after the the the Extreme bloody match they had a couple months back. That was the best opportunity to have you give an endorsement to somebody. Didn't need to be a bump, didn't need

to be anything. You could have been backstage, you could have been in a quick promo something that was a missed opportunity that Chad's are saying that only yeah, I had said before, I would love to have worked against Vicky, you know, Matta bring somebody out, have her go up against Nila and me, you know were the words with Vicky. I think that would be great, But you know, I don't think that'll ever happen. That I would consider, because

then I wouldn't have to get too physical. I mean, I'm sure me and Vicky could have came up with some spots to do, but David Mobile, I blew my mind when I just read that. David forever Hi, David, CP doub Wrestley says your presence at the women's show would bring the legitimate credit. I can see you in a GM position. You don't need to do no bomps. I don't need to do no bumps. That's right, CP dub. Thank you. Rad Rob said, we all appreciate you and

Chad keep up the great content. Tony agrees David. I don't know what that is? Is that it? Are they bits? Well, Danny, thank you for I know I did David give betts. What is that? I'm not sure? Just in case. Thank you for the bits, my friends. Thank you for the bits. Thank you for the bits, my friend. Thank you for the bits because it says a number both of them. Okay, thank you, Ivy, girlfriend clear it's not coming up for me. So thanks for the bits, David and Danny. And it

is a bit. Thank you so much. Thank you to all it tunes in today. This was a lot of fun. We're gonna have to do this again. Absolutely future because it was easy. We were afraid we weren't supposed to uh log on correctly, like we didn't know how to log on and we didn't know what we were doing. But now we know, so we can do this and include y'all. So I appreciate everyone, and I do full plugs. Yeah, so where are you? What do you want to? Here

we go? This is the full plug plug a Rooney and I'm leaving the Patreon up because I'm gonna show the picture one more time. Follow me. It's at chatty and b on Instagram and Twitter. I have a website called Ibexclusives dot Com where I do a lot of private autograph signings with sports stars, mostly baseball, but you never know who's gonna pop up on my schedule. We've

got a lot of really cool stuff coming on. So if you're looking for the special gift for somebody who loves sports autographs in your life, come to Ibexclusives dot Com. You won't be disappointed. I really want to push Patreon here. It's the best content that I think I've ever done. Podcasting. It's fun, it's it's new every week. It's literally it's

a barrel of laughs. And I couldn't endorse it enough and the next person to join, Okay, I'm gonna show one more time is going to get this straight out of my personal stash. A double signed eight x ten by Shane Douglas and Francine. It's beautiful. You saw it. It pops when you see this image, it pops, and unlucky person is going to get it if they joined the Patreon after watching this live stream. I appreciate you let me come on your channel and sharing our eyes

up your program. Yeah, so we have a question, by the way, in the chat for you for Chad Rumor, is you will be playing Grand Theft Auto online for one point six consecutive hours on Twitch. Well, if I either a played Grand Theft Auto ever in my life or had a Twitch channel, well, I do have a channel, but I never did anything on it. Maybe I consider it, but as of right now, no, muss, I got nothing.

You got nothing. Well, if you want to follow me, if you're not following me, I don't know why you're not. But if you want to follow me across the board on social media, you can find me at ECW Diva. Francine. I am on Twitch. I'm on Twitch right now. Please give me a follow, please subscribe, And we have a lot of fun on Twitch. I've been doing different things and trying to see what sticks. Resolute Blood from Wyoming,

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