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Joel Gertner

Jul 17, 202151 min
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Well...well...well...for the first time we welcome Joel Gertner to Eyes Up Here. Joel and Francine's friendship has lasted all these years and the laughs and memories come pouring in. See what "The Quintessential Stud-muffin" is up to these days and how he has spent his post wrestling career.

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All right, get it going right here? Right then? This is eyes up here, or the fourth time as we do a rereleaguered introduction. It's a little feedback, but we can get through that. For now, I'm Chad whatever, I'm here. I'm joined by the host of the show, the Queen of Extreme Francine. How's your internet and microphone going today? It's not going at all. It's not working properly, and of course Hubbs isn't here to help, and I'm all by myself and I'm not tech savvy as we all know.

So yeah, I'm on my phone now. I apologize, but this is how it's gonna be. So now for somebody like a good a good buddy of ours, Mike Derband, he loves when bad audio takes center stage on a on a podcast, so specifically to him, you gotta turned the volume up when Francine, maybe he cursed me. I'm coming after you today for sure. No, I don't know what's going on. It keeps muting me unfortunately, So you know, I know not everybody loves this Philadelphia accent of mine,

but you know it is a podcast. I do have to speak. The Interweb powers that be didn't like the Philly accent. So they thought they just cut you off. Yeah, I guess. But AnyWho, how's it going, Let's go pretty good. How's week two of braces? Hate them? Hate them? Want to rip them off? I have to go on Monday because the bracket came off. It's sliding all every time I brush my teeth, it slides over, so they have

to cement it down. And I noticed that some of these brackets have like these u sharp things at the end, and some of them don't. I need to take a nail clipper and clipped all the sharp things off myself. They can do that, but they can do that if you can play. When you go back, they'll do that.

And it's like it's it is excruciating to know they're that close in your mouth with a clipper and they go and I don't care because there my lip is getting like like shriveled from these friggin points that are all over these braces, like especially when I try to eat. It's it's terrible. And thank god I have wax, because there's one there's a metal one in here, and it's just poking like a hole straight through my cheek. So I have to like put eighty things wax on it.

So I'm gonna see if they could break that off as well, because the other two they don't have that point. This one has the metal point. And then all of my brackets have this tiny little point on them feels like it's plastic. So I feel like I can just clip them off, but I want to make sure it's okay to do. But they hurt. It sucks, and I gret getting these. So my teeth better be on point when this is all over with, or else I'm going to like punch my dentist in his face. Will your

teeth to get straight? Quicker? How about that? They didn't even tell me how long this is gonna take. I have no idea how long. You know. Sometimes I guess they tell you two years, and then it could be quicker. I pray that it's quicker, because I mean, I don't know how little kids do this. I've said that a hundred times. It sucks. I hate them, but I do want nicer teeth. So you know, week two out of how many weeks? What is it? The one hundred and four? Oh?

But you know, and you know, like I wasn't pissed en off Disney. Disney is pissing me off right now. Have you seen the latest going on? Because you're you like Disney like I do. We really haven't talked about Disney a lot. No, what's going on? I'm in the dark. Oh I'm watching you know, my one of many voggers that I watch for Disney, and you know they're talking about Disneyland Paris and Disneyland Paris right now? Is uh doing? Not a fast passed system like you know Walt Disney

World had the three fast passages. You stay on property, you get your fast pass. Paris is charging. Oh I did see this, Yes, I saw this in passing. I didn't click on it, though, Tell me about it. It's going to be all over. So when you're at Disney World, from what I understand now, maybe they'll mix it. I don't know. But when you are at Disney World now they are saying there are no more fast passes. I forget what it's Lightning pass or some kind of name is going to be in its place, and it's going

to cost ten dollars per ride per person. Whoa, oh my god. To the family of four. You usually get three fast passes and once you use all three, you can get your fourth, so you could probably get three. So right off the bat, that's an extra one hundred and twenty dollars a day. Why Why because of COVID, Because they've lost so much money from COVID. Is this why I think it's so selfish on their part? I'm mad. Is it? Is it an experimental thing in Paris to

see if it works. No. I just saw that they are charging so euros, so many euros I think, and if the guy said it was equile event to between eight and ten dollars US money, you know, US funds. And then I said, oh my gosh, they took away the Magical Express. Now you have to pay to get from the airport and back, which sucks, and they're taking my fast passes away. I'm not paying one hundred and twenty dollars extra a day. There's no way, there's no way in hell I'm doing it. So I'm really really

upset with Disney right now. I'll still go, obviously because it's some mark for it, but this just I mean, what are the perks now staying on property? But the free buses which I'm sure there'll be a little change. Thing you play like a dollar. Now the parks, but free buses, and we like food courts because they're convenient. But other than that, what do you have? What are the perks? There are none? The magic. The magic is slowly dissipating. It's going away, and I'm mad as hell

about it. I'm so mad. So Magic's dissipating. That's a bad tagline. You don't want that, Disney. I love you, but get it together. This is a bad idea. It's a bad idea. Not everybody. You know. It's hard enough to afford a trip because let's face it, they're expensive, right. We go for two weeks, two weeks and we do nine park these, so I'm gonna have to add one at the at the very least one hundred and twenty dollars a day for fast pass. That's that's like too grand.

My cameos, we did think about it, though. I think that's really unfair of them. Yes, that's crazy. I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. So you know, all week I've been grumpy about it, and because I've been studying, and I'm like, I really hope it does not come. But from all the vloggers, they're saying it's on its way. Pissed themeed cameos. You know your heel baby face combo, you do Disney character cameos. I'm yeah, well I'm just I'm beside myself. I'm pissed off. Yeah

that stinks. Yeah, it's really bad. So you know, Disney, you you need to get your shit together because this is this is not good. I'm mad. I'm trying to think, uh, what what would you eliminate if you had to, like ride wise, if they were to charge you, what would you eliminate? My god, I mean, I well know your option is to stand in the long line. Okay, but because it would you stand in the long line? Yeah, you have to. Ok So, I mean, I you know,

I'm charming, but I I don't. I have to think of something to get to the front of the line. I mean crazy, It's that's terrible. It's too much. It's too much. We spend so much money a year on Disney and now they want to they want to do this to us. So not happy Disney, the teeth, the Disney. Anything positive happened this week? Okay, all right now, not really. I I'm Cinderella. This week I cleaned a lot. Uh. Now, my kids spend time with my kids. That was my

positive And isn't that the best part? I love them. Yes, they make me happy. But you know they're not happy about this beast best thing either. I said, that's highway robbery. That's what that is. So kissed off. Yeah, it's sad man. We're we're rocking and rolling. Everything I say, I hear a little echo in your your phone. We took four times to record. Take what you can get there, kid, this is the best we can do today. You're lucky. I'm here. Hey, I'm fine, I'm I'm thrilled. I'm ready

to go here. I'll tell you a funny thing. So we started watching this show called sex Life. It's on Netflix, Okay, on the recommendation by one Jim Florentine, who on his podcast said that it's a great It's a show. It's filled walts a wall with nudity. Right, so we thought, let's give it a try. Right. It is the sappiest, crappiest, awful like extreme sex in the city I've ever seen in my life. And I want to kill myself that I have to start this show. Really, Oh, it's terrible.

The geared towards women, I would guess. So, yeah, it's very cheesy. It's very corny. The music is like, literally, it's no, it's stinks. I couldn't believe that Jim Florashion gave it an endorsement that he liked it. Well, well, there is a positive. I watched Big Brother. It debuted this week. They're back, yeah, back. And the fun part about it this year for me, my daughter's watching it

with me. Okay, yeah, because I always watch it alone and she caught bits and pieces last summer when it was one, and this year she's like, Mom, Mike, you I want to watch it with you. And I was like, you know what, you're old enough. She'll be twelve this month. I said, you're old enough to watch it. So it was so fun to have somebody to watch it with and like cheer for people and boo the ones we don't like, and it was just a bonding moment for us. It was cute. But the fun part about this season

is they had a girl on there. She's autistic and you would you would never know it. She uh, I think she said she has too. She graduated college with two majors in her four years. I guess not one, but two. Extremely smart and then she's a three time a world karate champion. So this is great because she's a role model for kids or you know, young adults to think because they have you know, autism or something

going on special needs, that they can't do anything. But she's she's doing it all and it's such such a nice message that she's bringing out there to people. And I really like her and I'm rooting for I hope she wins it. But made me happy. It made me cry. I cried when I saw it would be emotional. I cried. Now, is Big Brother going to have any innuendo that you might have to shield? Yes, a lot, a lot. So I'm prepared to do so because I've been watching for

so many years. I know when something's going to happen. The good part is it's live. But if they're on a delay, so if there's like any type of cursing, it goes to the fish tank. You see a fish swimming around. That's when you know somebody dropped an F bomb or something. Because she's like, why is there a fish on the screen. I said, somebody said the F words. But they do have they have two gay people and one bisexual. Okay, I really haven't explained that to my

kids yet, so it kind of came up. So kind of explained what was going on, and she was like, oh okay, and it kind of that was it and go into like detail. So I didn't go into detail. So it's a hard subject to discuss with young children, you know what I mean, Like you kind of want to just keep them in a bubble forever. Yes, she's growing up really quickly. So I just explained it really quick and she was like, oh okay, and that was that.

We had a similar thing happened this week. We had they were watching a video and both of them and at the end of the video they kept saying Pride week, Pride week, Pride week, or Pride months, and I just we just arbitrarily said, like you know what that means? She was like, no, I don't know. Thinking about it, I was like, okay, they like they have it. They made their way to everybody just because it's like, you

know what, they're mentioning it on a video. Does this mean I have to bring it up now that they're hearing something. Did you explain it to her? No, Oh, you're younger than mine. Yeah, it was a little bit. Yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's you know, it's a touchy subject sometimes I don't really want I don't want her watching two straight people in bed together. I mean she's twelve, she's young.

So when that comes on, I mean one year they literally showed somebody like excuse my expression, but a girl was getting finger banged under the covers and you could tell, you can literally tell what was going on. And it was just like, okay, this is a little graphic for prime time television. Like maybe I'm prude, but I knew exactly what was happening, you know, but what one and that might have been on the after Dark show too,

because they televise after Dark and stuff. But you know, they show people in bed, they show people in the shower, they show people making out. It's it's a little I think it's a little too much for a kid her age. So I don't want her to see that kind of stuff, right, So you know, well, if that comes on, she'll get one of these done. It's the old Freddy Krueger treatment that we used to have pulled the put the pillow

right over our face. Fine, it'll be okay, but I'm excited to watch it with her because the competitions are what we like the most, so it'll be fine, very nice. Yeah, well, I sent the link to our esteemed guests who should be joining us for the first time. A guy we've been looking to have on for a while, so he should be here any minute. I've never no, never met never I maybe I am. I might have been there with Shane while they talked, but I never was formally introduced. Well,

how ride of Shane not to introduce you today. Franchise is doing his thing. You know, I don't interrupt. I'm telling you, well, I would have introduced you to him if I but otherwise I got to say. I mean, I had a pretty rock in the first couple of days of the week. You know, I was very happy, as you know, I called you to uh talk to you about something. It was very interesting and it's developed more as the days have gone through. I like to be cryptic. Yeah, I was gonna say, maybe we'll discuss

it next week. Take take flight. I worked on a couple of things, so see the old the old chats are going global. The Chadster's over in the UK. Welcome to the CARTI kid oh man. But yeah. Otherwise, I mean it's you know, it's it's funny. Like I look, I look ahead already, like Friday, so I'm looking at next week, right next week. I didn't realize I was going away at the end of next week. So now my schedule is all truncated because I didn't realize it's July and it's flying and the way it is, I

believe it. I know my kids are sad that we're already in July. It's the beginning of like no, now it's going too quick. Now here's our guest joining the party. So I'd been friends for over twenty years. This is the quintessential stud muffin Joe girt I handsome, Hey ug, Branny, I'm great. How are you? We're having technical difficulties on my end, so I had to do it for I'm usually on my PC, but I couldn't get my MIC to work and hubs isn't here to help. So you know,

I'm a I'm a damsel in distress today. Joel, how are you? What's going on? I'm so good? How are you going? Yeah? Yeah, so can you tell me about because I asked you? Uh, I asked you to come on before, but you had an acting gig. Let's start off with that. Can you tell us about bet or? Is that k fae? Am I not allowed to say it because we'll cut it out if I'm not. Yes, No, I mean I probably can give you a few details. Okay,

it'll air gosh. I mean you know when I give all the details, it'll be the kind of thing that you could look up and figure out anyway. But it's a show that airs on one of the major streaming networks. Okay, it's an episodic show. It will be released in the hall. Okay,

can you give any insights your character? My character is featured background, so as long as I don't wind up on the cutting room floor, if they do with me what they've led me to believe they might do with me, it'll be background and it'll be non speaking, but it'll be prominent so that if you're able to recognize me, I'll be on screen long enough that you'll know it. To me, are you doing anything that you are going to stand out? Because as workers, we have to put

ourselves over. Are you doing anything in that background that I'm going to look at you and say yeah, I can see Joel amongst a thousand extras, but I yes, yes, in a set of or category that includes seventy five extras. Okay, for the way they use to me most prominently, I am one of one out of the seventy five. I love it. For moment in time to get the Brad you could have shut out. I could have been like zero of one. Yeah. So, by the way, this is U Chad and this is Joel. You guys have never met,

so I want to get Yes. I've walked by you a bunch of times at conventions with various people I've been with, but never had the pleasure, so pleasure. I probably walked by you then and never realized that I hadn't had the pleasure. Now I know Joel doesn't put anybody over, so it doesn't matter. So anyway, I'm kidding, I'm gonna let ast. You don't get a body like this by accident. You want to hug me, you got to list me? What else? What else have you been

up to? My friend? It's been a while since we've seen each other. I don't even know time I've seen you, Francine, I'm not sure me. I'm like Egypt done everywhere, you know what I mean, Like, I don't know, I'm whatever, like background acting and substitute teaching and podcasts and merchant services which is like credit card processing and election poll working, and I don't know if it makes sense and it's whatever. It's clever and it doesn't feel like work. And ideally,

if I'm not doing it too straight days, then you know, perfect. Yeah, he talks to my husband more than he talks to me, but that's okay. They have their own little love little chat group. I know about your chat. You do, Yeah, you don't. You don't see all the memes that we I've ever been in it, but like he'll show me. He'll look what I put in the chap whatever. It's great, it's not It's not for mixed company, man, it's not. Some of that stuff is not fitting for a queen

of anything. All I can say is, you're all about fourteen years old. That's all I all. I oh, yay. Completely tell us about your teaching gig. What are you teaching? It's you know, a lot of the time, I'm not really working. I'm just kind of on reserve and I'm there because the state needs a certain ratio of people,

and it's just you'd be surprised. But as a sub, unless you're actually cover, it's it's kind of like being It's just like baseball really if you're not really on the active roster, but you are on the roster a lot of the time, you're kind of just warming the bench and uh, and that's kind of what it is. So I wind up day training and doing my stock market mission gods, and instead of doing it at home on the couch and only making what I kill in

the market, doing it at school. And I'm getting a salary, uh an income stream while I'm day trading. So then in case I make money, I have two streams and if I lose money, I have one stream. So it's kind of win win. And when you're there, do they just use you for any subject? Or is it whoever doesn't show up? You have to what did you all know anything about the subject to teach you? Yeah? Pretty much. I'm licensed with New York City, with New York State.

I'm licensed for common branches, so schoolhouse, so I could do anything math la we call it these days, science social studies. I could do upholstery, I could do band. I've done, girls te whatever you know subject yeah up, polsterry, Yeah yeah, okay, could you imagine it underwater sec or I don't know what they teach these days, and well I have no idea. Could you imagine if like what what grade is it? I teach mostly middle school? I teach mostly six seventh day. It's all yeah, it's terrible.

It's I mean, it's they're like little adults in like the worst way. So you're dropping your kid off to school, right you're probably my age or solf. You see Joel walking in with like his little briefcase or whatever, and you remember him from E. C. W. And now terror strikes you because he's teaching your child, right, Well, that's you know, that's one less speech that you've got to give your kid, you know what I mean, Like I

take something to slate, you know what I mean? You know the first in the school that nominated me, which they told me, are you sure we should do that? And then when I went back this year, they were like, we don't need you. But when I was there, I'm too friendly with the kids, They're like, forget it, you're done. I went for the October first. I went for their first day of this school year. They were like, don't call us, we'll call you. But I was there last

year until COVID, from like November through March. The kids loved me, and it was in Queen's. It was the school that nominated me. A buddy of mine from high school is the assistant principal. They brad to me, Hey, you know who tried to get nominated here, Matt Striker recently, and we turned him down. So we're taking a chance on you. I love it. So yeah, oh, you're you're very intelligent. I mean, were kidding around. We always called Joel and idiot savant in the locker room. You can

throw numbers. I remember throwing numbers at you, like crazy numbers, and you would do them all in your head and you would always get the right answer. Multiplication was my specialty because I've been reading the damn Observer since eighty nine and it's like, okay, one five hundred people paid sixteen dollars each and I'm just trying to calculate the gate, you know what I mean. So when you've been doing that for thirty two years, we don't put over those

sheets on this. We don't, okay, we don't like them. But anyway, Yeah, I just remember always saying, hey, Joel, what's five hundred and thirty two times four hard three? Then you get your calculator. He's fucking right. I'm just like, yeah, you do this stuff so smart. Have you been doing

any wrestling stuff? Yeah? Yeah. This past Saturday, I was ring announcing for VXS, which is violence hybridized with suffering and they are a pro Beauty of Violence promotion based out of New Jersey, and I was their ring announcer

and it was a fun time they had. I don't know, if you're going to go really really bare case and try to be real conservative, probably forty five people on each side, so I guess that's only one eighty paid, but gosh if it didn't sound like eight hundred, you know, because people are happy to be out and it was a really good time. Brian Cage was on the show, Dave Richards. It was fun and see how click he did the math forty five people on the east side

pretty good. I'm sure it was accurate. You know, we just watched we watched you very very young, remember that a couple of weeks ago. We just saw Joel and we did We've been watching some fantams and we saw you. Man. You how old were you when you first started in thew Let's preference by saying, I'm still young in case any wrestling offices are watching and they're considering who they might want to be hiring for the third quarter. I'm still as a talker. Francine, you know me and you

are still young, right. I know your mommy and you got a couple of kids. But you know how young you are, right? You just tweeted your age. Dumb, dumb, you tweeted your age and that tweet, yes you did. I'm forty five. Yeah, that's very that's still very young today. No, yes, classy for a glassy was out there doing it at like seventy five. God bless them. I won't say so, frank So, Francine, we've got time. Okay, well takes super

bombs and everything. Yeah, now I'm done. My mic wasn't working on Saturday, so to have some fun, I did an elbow drop onto it. It wasn't fun. The next day. Spoiler alert, you took him probably sixty seven years intentional, intentional. We were doing a Baltmahoney tribute at House of Hardcore which doesn't use me like Dreamer refuses to use me.

I don't know, I'm overqualified, whatever, But Dreamer doesn't want to bring me in, so he doesn't want to have an ECW vibe on the show because there's already five ECW guys. So so I'm at the h The only thing I've ever done for h O ahent front of the curtains was they wanted me to be. I was in the room because there was a Icons convention earlier that day. They were doing the Baltimahoni tribute, so I was happy to be part of it. Me and Danny Doring are the last two people to get out of

the ring. He's letting me go first, and I tried to get out of the ring and I slipped on the wet banana peel that wasn't there fran scene and I took a bump on my Coxics Coxics cooc x c x c x y xx toxics, and I swear to god it was the adrenaline that got me up and moving around so that I could get through the curtains. And I was even fine for the remainder of the day. I woke up the next morning and I thought I had been anally provoked by a cobra that was driving

a mack truck at the Travelodge that evening. Oh gosh, the travel Are we gonna talk about the Traveloge? Have a fun story to share about the travel Lodge, because you know, I've stayed there, but I've never I've seen things, but I've never really partaken in the debauchery that is the Travelodge. Do you have a fun story that you're you're able to tell without getting yourself in trouble? Oh,

let's leave rest. Oh you know what, No, let's leave wrestling out of it, like unique from wrestling, completely binary. Let's leave wrestling out of it. Right. Let's pretend I wasn't in the wrestling business, and I'm going into a room where there's not anybody in the wrestling business, because there wasn't. I check in downstairs. It's a lobby. They give me my key, I go up to my room. I slipped the key in and I walk in and

guess what, sealing the deal and consummating the marriage. I walked in on a couple on their honeymoons, a travel at the Trump of course, at the Traveloge. Where else where a child wants drowned in the pool within three months, and there being on January first, the first murder within the Philadelphia city limits of nineteen ninety six. Of course, at the travel Edge, they put all these things on their brochure. They have negative five stars. They have a

negative five Michelin ratings. As as a person who must not be named would give Ultimate Warrior versus Andre the Giant, they got a Negati five star ratings. What did you say when you walked in? Did you critique their performance? Did you go into jeel mode? And yeah, man, no, listen. I looked at her, I looked at him. I looked

at her. I looked at her again, and then, without moving my glance, I looked at her and I said, well, and then I bounced because there was beer and a bathtub two floors up where my real room was there. You go, yeah, that's that's a nice memory. We had so much fun back in the day. My god, what do you miss the most from ECW Having the same kind of fun that we've been having for the last five or ten minutes, but having it at work while you're advancing your career, hanging out with your friends and

chosen family and being paid relatively handsomely. Yeah, I hear you. I missed the camaraderie the most. I think. Yeah, we think about a lot. We do a lot of watch alongs, like Chad said, and I, you know, I haven't watched our stuff in years, like we had the network that I'm not one to go and watch wrestling or watch my stuff anymore. But when we do these watch alongs,

it's it's like a wave that comes over me. Like I get sad and then I get happy, and then I get sad again because like I miss everybody so much because I don't get to see a lot of people. And that's why when we do these conventions and I get to see you guys, it it's just it's I get overjoyed, you know what I mean. It's like the seeing family members that you haven't seen in years. And that's that's what I miss the most about it. I don't miss like the bumps or anything or the ringwork

per se. I just miss you guys. I hate It's the thing that seems to bring us together the most and more frequently than we'd like, is when people in our circle and in our family, when they pass Yeah, it's sad that some of the ones with the most slight and the most life and the most kind of just visceral joy, like people like Axel and Jack and Balls, it's it's sad to see them go. I wish we were able to hang out and thresh our feelings for

each other more often and in a different context. Yeah, because like when I know, when new Jack passed, I was in Indianapolis. I was doing an my first convention since COVID, and then like I think you were even in it. We had a thread going and everybody was like, oh, I love you, I love you, I love you, And that doesn't come up too often, but when somebody does

pass that's when the emotion comes out. And I'm just like, I feel like I love you guys every day of my life, but we only kind of like say it when somebody dies. It's just weird. Like the group chat was on fire, like everybody was just texting everybody and my phone was ringing, and I'm just like, you know, we we should really be keeping in touch more as we're living, and not so much when somebody passes away, because that then it's not I mean, you might not

get the chance, you know what I mean. Like it's sad, it's sad, it's just I don't know, but I I just I love everybody, and I miss everybody terribly. And I know life goes on and we move on, and I love my life now, but there's a little tiny part of me that I just I remember all the good stuff that we used to do and all the fun that we had. And you know, you guys made my twenties a lot of fun. So and now there's

a digital project that's out there. It kind of in development, like a social media kind of marketing kind of I don't know if you've talked about it much or at all on your show, Okay. And and and once that it's fully developed and comes to pass and fruition, that is the kind of promising platform that hopefully will bring us together and include the fans interactively and allow us all to throw flowers at each other as we're here and can appreciate it. Yeah, And that's forever Fan dot

Club and still in development. Like we we said, hopefully it will it will happen sooner than later. But I just feel like, you know, we have to just appreciate life while we're here, and you know I try to do that every day. But I'm just so happy. I've been trying to get you on the show forever and how was that you finally came on. I have to do your show, I know, so give back the talent exchange absolutely before you go. Two things. Can you do a limerick off the top of your head for me?

Or can you? Or can you can you revamp one that you've already done for our listeners? Yeah? I could do well? Okay, the lyrical Miracle, the sexual intellectual becoming linguist. Oh, and the quinn essential stud muffin Joel, I'm the biggest your fluty girlfriend has ever had. I'm the best your filthy mom has ever seen. And don't just take it from the king of libido me, but take it from the Queen of extreme friendccene yours. He's so good. How do you not hire a guy like this? Why are

you not working somewhere like somewhere big? Why are you not on TV? Do you have an answer for that? Is it politics? Did you piss somebody off? Joe? What are you doing? I don't know? Less? Maybe less is more? Maybe I am considered precious cargo. Maybe I am a novelty. Maybe I am type passed, and there is not the realization that I portrayed Joey Jaguar for four years in my teens before ECW, So I don't need to be

the ECW version of the quintessential stud nothing. I get asked FRAN scene and d MS and stuff all the time, and if I'm completely transparent, I'm an open book. If I had an answer, i'd get it. I don't, and I don't know. I think you're you're so good on the mic, like, and I've said that for years. I just don't know why you're not working somewhere on television coming from me. I just appreciate hearing the question coming from you, Like, I don't have an answer, but I

appreciate the fact that you've asked. That means a lot. I would enjoy seeing you. Maybe I would watch a wrestling show if Joel was on it. But I digress. Anyway, Let's plug some stuff. What do you got going on? Where can people find you? Let us know? Cool? On Twitter, some Muffin says, and actually one of my most recent tweets,

it's getting a lot of traction. It's going viral ish is where I mentioned that I have just exited my five thousand, eight hundred and forty day non compete clouds that I signed at ECW one night Stand oh five. So that has over twelve hundred likes last I looked since last night. So for me, that's the big deal. So if you could find that, retweet it and throw it up your own flag pole, I love that the most. But that's me on Twitter. Stud Muffin says on Instagram,

I am Quintessential stud Muffin. On YouTube, the name of my channel is the name of me Joel Gertner. You can find me on Cameo where inside Baseball Backstory. Even though my wife really wanted I was already with select VM. My wife was like, you should do cameo. I'm like, yeah, I'll do it. I'll get around to it. I want select them. It's not a big deal. Francine the Queen took precedence on Cameo over my wife and impressed upon me so that she could be my referral and tim

that I should join cameo. So now every time I pamped myself at like one week, I had six cameos and I was thinking to myself Francine's just sitting around at all, you know, making bank. So he's like, you don't do enough cameos for me to make sect. But can I tell you when you joined? I said, let me know when you're gonna record, because I will retweet it for you. He never lets me know. Oh, I should do that. You should do that because if I

don't check Twitter, I don't know you're recording. Lazy. I hate work. I have bad work ethic. Maybe that's why you know what? Punish me? Send me cameos on Moss. Everybody watching this just for fun. It's only fifty bucks. Like, send the cameo to me. Overload me the most I've ever done in a week at six because I'm saying I don't like doing them. Oh, such a Caucasian conundrum, such such a rich Arson's dilemma. Just shoot me like eighteen of them to do this week as a punishment.

And if I get eighteen, because that's the random number I just fixed, I promise I will donate a significant fortune as I always do to Saint Jude Children's research possible. But yeah, cameo Joel Gertner Pro Wrestling Teas dot Com slash Joel Gertner and my podcast is the sixty nine minute Eargasm. I already spoiled on that was Extreme Zoom last night. Hopefully he did get winded it and hopefully

it won't make him rescind his offer. But scheduled to record with me for sometime tomorrow afternoon is Alberto L. Patron, which should be a really really interesting podcast if he and I can sync that up for tomorrow. But most recently we've had Tyson Kidd on TJ Wilson. We did a two parter with him and that podcast is a lot of fun. And then me and Blue Meanie and

Josh Schernoff do that was Extreme. That's a podcast that airs once a month on the first of the month, and then also around the first of the month or on the first of the month, we do a Zoom call in the evening on ad free shows and it's free on Patreon. And that's what I've got going on. I'm gonna be at the Legend thing in Hamburger this month, and I've got some mother stuff. But the best way to see what that is every couple of weeks is

to just make sure that you're tuned to include social media. Yeah, And I retweeted the one tweet where you listed everything that you have going on, and I think that's the one where you said your age as well. So I retweeted that for you because you did have your cameo profile. See, I will help you if you let me know when you're willing to work. I need to know. I'm not a forty five franc Scene. You're not fifty yet, are you? February? Did you know Paul haman our mentor as outside of

the ring wrestling, non wrestling personalities. Did you know that Paul Hayman quite arguably, but not at all debatably, I feel comfortable saying this hit his peak if he's even hit it yet. But of his living years so far, he hit his career peak between the ages of fifty and fifty five. Did you know that? I didn't know that, but I think I hit mine at like twenty seven. So oh, I've seen. No, you're not telling no, Francine. You were. You were a princess then trying to be

a queen. Now you are, for a generation and more, a queen in your own room. So charming, so charming. Well, I appreciate that. I appreciate you, and I'm glad you and I are still friends. Hit me up when I can do your show in the future. We'll figure something out. And I'm glad you and Chad finally got to meet Big Fan again. My pleasure, my pleasure. Yeah, this is fine. Do you have anything anything to close with final close? No? Not really, there you go. I mean the existence of aliens.

It's proven in nineteen in nineteen sixty nine, it was proven when aliens invaded the Moon. But aside from that, I've got nothing. Do you believe in alien abductions? I do. I think we never know what happens to us in our sleep, And I think if aliens are more intelligent than we are, which if they can abduct us and

we can't abduct them, then they must be. If they are then more intelligent than we are, why would they try to abduct us while we're awake when it would be so much easier to do so while we're sleeping. So I have no idea whether I've been I could have been at the tribologue for all I know. Do you ever real quick? I think, Okay, we're on Earth, we're human. Couldn't there be like one of the other planets that have humans on it, just like the way we live. They say that we could have come here

from Mars. Is it Mars? They say that we could have come here already from Mars. So rather than we're all immigrants, wow, we should we Yeah, we should lead out with the immigrant song. And then it's either Pablo or whoever you use it with ecw or but yeah we should. Yeah, we could all be immigrants. I don't know. They say that we could be previous Martians and cats also could be previously from mars Us cats, dogs, Yeah, I mean, listen, there were moondogs, you know what I mean,

and in various territories. You know what I mean. There were national moondogs, global, there were you know, some moondogs never made it out of Portland. That's crazy. Final thought, that's a good one. I'm going to ponder that Princian think about it and think about this, like what if it's not our first time around, you know what I mean? Like, what if society made it to these technological levels that we're at in the year twenty twenty one, and then

after that something bad happened. There was an obliteration and we had to start all over again. And the Earth that we're in right now is actually Earth version four point zero. So this isn't our first barbecue, is what you're saying. Might not be We could have made it to the year ten thousands in the lost city of Atlanta. Who knows anything is possible. Wow, you're blowing my mind right now. But we're going to continue this conversation when I come on your show because there's a lot of

things to uh to think about. I'm confused as all hell. But at another time, but thank you so much for coming. Thank you. I love you. I love you too, and we'll definitely keep in touch. I hope to see you soon. And keep acting like you're fourteen with my husband and keep them in check. We'll do. Love Youboddy, take care And there goes the studmuffin. I wish we didn't have this echo. That's killing me. And I'll tell you what, while you were talking, I was fiddling with my cord

and I broke my headphones. Such a loser. But isn't that great the way he could just boom give me a limerick? Absolutely something boom boom boom. Absolutely very nice. Yeah, very cool, very cool, And go follow him. If you're not following him, go follow him because he comes up with some witty tweets. Another extreme icon off the list. Mm hmm. Yeah, we're going down the list slowly but surely so. So who else, who else is on that list? We gotta we got to get together and figure that out.

Some people aren't going to make the cut, but most well, so it's all right, okay, well let's close it out because I got this this this is killing me. This echo you're killing me. Here's here's what we got on tap so far. Uh, we have rude quiz questions and answers, So it's going to be kind of in the Joel Gertner style where they're going to be somewhat suggestive questions that might not have the answers you think. Oh okay, Joel should have stayed to play. He's right up, Kelly.

Uh yeah. And then we'll have a Patreon member spotlight TBD. Don't know who it's gonna be as of this moment. Uh, so we'll leave it will vaguely jump over that one and the watch along. November fourth, nineteen ninety five and Glenn Olden, Pennsylvania, a six man tag team contest with Francine at ringside in the corner of Tommy Dreamer and the pit Bulls taking on the team of Stevie Richards, Raven and Cactus Jack. Don't remember, I'm sure you don't.

It's pretty random. This one is up. This is about as random as the random is gonna get. I am so down the fancam rabbit hole right now. It's not even fine. I'm obsessed with them, like I can't stop fining. Not just CCW, I'm finding WWS, I'll find in WCW. I'm finding these random indie shows from the nineties and early nineties. Oh, can't get enough. Are we real close at getting that that I want? Yes? I actually I can read you the message it says, and I quote

got it this morning. It says, uh sorry, it took a while, was a toughie to find. Had to use the black market wrestling connections to track it down and trade it hopefully by next week. Okay, perfect, But we have located it and acquired it through the black Market Wrestling Network whatever that is. And I have another one that a fan brought up to me on Twitter, So I'm gonna shoot that to you on tweet. It off the air and cool. Okay, so it sounds great. And

where can we find you? Chad? Oh? Well me. You can find me at Chad E and B on Instagram and Twitter. My website is Ibexclusives dot Com. On my autograph timing Shavaganzas on there as well as the Perfectly Rated teachhert selling like hotcakes and it's third in things. WO support it. Come grab that shirt. It's a good shirt. I mean that's I love it. It's a good shirt. I can't I can't stay enough. It's a good shirt. But all that support all the podcasts we got going on.

It's on Twitter. Just find me on there and you'll see all the cool stuff I got going on, very nice across the board. On social media, you can find me at e CWD for Francine. I have a few things coming up August seventh and eighth, I'll be I'll be with this guy in Aubany, New York. The info is on my Twitter. August fourteenth is the swim Shoot Swimsuit Showdown Extravaganza. It's myself Shelley Martinez, Alisa Alicia at tout excuse me, uh, We'll be doing a virtual signing

in our bikinis. So I'm sure that will draw many a man. You'll let the other two, So come on over and give that a whirl. And what else I gout? Cameo hit me up on Twitter and Twitch is www dot Twitch, dot tv, Forward Slash ecw dfa free scene. We hope everybody is saying, hey, hate safe, healthy and extreme and with that that's around. Hey, it's your old buddy, the chadser from Eyes up Here with FRAN Scene, the

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