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that Chad and Francine sent you. We want to wish all the mothers out there a happy Mother's Day twenty twenty one, and we want to thank story Worth for joining the Eyes up Here family. All right, let's get it going right here, right now. This is Eyes up Here. Oh, I have my real name on here today and it's Eyes up Here. And I would say you're normally joined by the Chad stir, but I got my real name up there today. I know what's why. I don't know.

So I'm Ian today, but welcome to Eyes up Here, and I'm joined, of course, as always by the Queen of Extreme, the one and only Francine. What's up? You're here with Ian today, not Chad. I don't know who this Ian is. Who is he? I hope, I hope he's nicer and more modest than Chatti is. What a dork? What a dork that guy is? He didn't even pay attention to the screen. I am dripping wet right now, and not in the way you guys are thinking, Oh

my hair is Ian's on the screen? Right? Okay? All right, just making sure no, I got out of the shower and I ran downstairs and pulled my air back. So yeah, sorry about that. I ride out of time today. Hubs had to run to work and I was doing double duty in the house. So you know, I made it. But I'm not as glamorous as I usually am. Oh yeah, I think you look good. You know, everything's all said. We have a good show on tap. We actually have

a pre recorded interview, but a long one. H So we'll keep the kind of the front part of this a little short, but we'll get a little catch up on what's going on. Last weekend, you did your virtual signing with RF video signed by Superstars. It was, you know again, multiple hours of extra edited entertainment, singing, the dancing, the trying of things. Like you you turn a virtual signing into an experience. I turned it. It's a party. That one is a party, like I just I don't know.

I've done a couple of them now and that's the most fun. You know, we just we're just idiots and it's it's just so fun to watch. So we talked about jelly beans being you know, different flavors, and you've tried some candies from all around the world. But I am not a fan of these, and I wouldn't even try a regular flavored. But you what were these peeps that you were talking about, these saracha peeps? And what

were the peeps about? I don't know. Betty had them and she forgot to bring them, but they taste like sarachia. And I don't like peeps anyway. I'm a big marshmallow person. I don't like peeps. They just don't appeal to me. But I had the fiery five being boozled set. Okay, so that's what it was. I was in and out, So that's what it was. You. I knew you had something.

That's what I had in studio with me. So I was making everybody try a jelly bean and it went from number one, which is the least hot, to number five, which I think was like it wasn't a ghost pepper, but it was. It was like hot, and I can't even have like black pepper. For me. It was difficult.

And I had a bottle of water and I had my water the little cap, you know, I had it to decide, and I was like, I would suck on the jellibean, but I would take it out and I would like put it in the cap, and Rob caught me and he made me. He made me chew and swallow. Oh hey, what are you a magician? You're trying to really hidden. It was like next to me where I was signing that they were and he just happened to look over and he goes, wait a minute, He goes,

you're not swallowing yours. I like, no, I'm just kind of sucking on them and putting them in the thing. And I got in trouble. So but it was fun. Yeah, it looked like a lot of fun. I was in and now at t ball and softball and everything going on. So I popped in a few times, say hi. Our Patreon member Rod dominated the day. Every time I turned around, Rod was getting talked about. So I felt like I

was watching like an extension of one of our extravaganzas. Yeah, and you do it so so well and it's always so much fun. And I'm looking to buy that Shane Douglas T shirt that you had that I couldn't find anything else about either. What the hell was that shirt? Yeah, it wasn't that awesome. And I had the holes. Yeah, the whole promo in the background was it was great. I got to add it to my collection. Mm hmm, what a mark. So it well, I wasn't gonna outbid

anybody who wanted it. You know, they added to their collection. Trying to think what else is going on? I mean, it's been a crazy week, but you know, what's what's going on with you? You have you been doing? So? Yeah, a couple of things. I went to the dentist. Lovely my braces. I can't get them as a line my mouth. I just can't do it because the way my teeth. Six thousand dollars whoa, yeah, a lot of Shane Douglas T shirts to sell. I'm gout it, as the British say,

I'm very very upset about that. So yeah, that's gonna cost me a pretty penny, but hopefully it'll be worth it when I'm done. And uh, but I can't get an appointment for another four to six weeks because the guy's booked and I'm just like great. And on a better note, I tried you know how I told you I tried those gummies and they made me completely sick. Yes, so we have a friend who has a legit is

it dispensary, dispense dispensary. So him and his wife are advocates of this and they know everything the ins and outs, and they gifted us for five milligram capsules of what's it called in in in crap in Indica. I believe it's called I mean, see no clue, so I can't get indica. It's indica. Apparently the stuff we had before is garbage. And that's why I got so sick. Okay, So the other night I didn't do it last night because I did twitch last night. But the other night

I tried it, I did not get sick. My pain was still there, but I felt like I slept deeper Okay, still woke up the pay, which pissed me off because it's supposed to like slow down your urge to go to the bathroom. It drops your blood pressure. What's that? Maybe we think of adult diapers when we take a gummy get up. This wasn't a gummy. This was a capsule capsule, okay, a capsule, and it was anywhere. It's yeah, the there there's there's different things for you know, different uh.

I guess moods that you want to be in. This is the Indica is supposed to make you like sleep well help pain. So I only tried it once. But the good thing is I did not get sick. I didn't have the spins, I didn't feel like I was gonna vomit. So I'm gonna try it again and see if it helps me. But you compare it with like a weatment, a cream that like I can put on my neck and my shoulders and my hands and anything that hurts me, and maybe the combination will just let

me drift off into a happy place. Face. I don't know. I'm not really down with the whole weed thing. Yeah, I mean, when does it become like a full blown weed experience. I'm not going to move across the line. Yeah, I know, I'm not going to smoke it. And you know, I was told, well, maybe you know, eventually you need to go up to ten. I was like, whoa, I took one thing, Like, I'm not ready to start jumping around with doses like this is crazy, but I am

in pain. So I'm just trying. You know, we're trying stuff. We'll see if it works. But I was just super that I didn't get sick. All victories, right, absolutely, Yeah, Okay, well, good to reports. So next time, we'll see where you go from there soon. Yeah, we'll see. But everybody said this stuff is great, so we'll see what happens. Interesting. I had my first COVID test a few days Yeah you did. I'm hoping it was negative. It was negative. I got the results this morning. I got it eight hours.

So I wanted to mention this a few weeks ago, and we just got the show's got away from us. But my dad is being honored by the New York Mets. Now it's a couple of days ago, but so I'm actually going up to City Field to where the Mets play and my dad and then believe the third inning. So if you want to go back and watch it, if you have your MLB package, they'll play a little video for him. They'll mention his service time and his medals and his awards, and it gets a little round

of applause from the City Field. Faithful, And it's going to be a turns out like a kind of like a little family not re union, but like a gathering. My brother's gonna be there, my uncle, a couple of my cousins, my aunt's gonna be there, and it's it's gonna be pretty cool. But City Field and Yankee Stadium are the only Major League Baseball clubs presently that require a proof of vaccine or a negative COVID test within seventy two hours to allow entry. So I had to

follow a schedule. When should I go get the test, When do I get the results back? And when can I go to the field? Do you feel it's because New York City is such a cesspool right now? I don't know, because California doesn't require a California is bad, you know, Florida's up and down. I don't know, it's I guess New York is just maybe they're just trying

to set the standard. The Buffalo Bills, which is you know, Northern New York said that they're only allowing vaccinated people into the stadium in the football season next this year and later in the year, and that they'll try to get full capacity, but you have to be vaccinated, so you have to share your card. Yeah, yep, proof of vaccination. I'm sorry. I don't agree with that at all. It's it sucks, and I'll tell you, like the test, you know,

it's not comfortable, it's not fun. I wouldn't go and do it again if I didn't have to, you know, And I've gone all this time without having to get one. But they take the biggest cute tit that you can find and they shove it and she goes, I'm not gonna pick your brain. She goes, I'm just gonna go fish for some boogers. Right, that's what she said. This is what the lady said to me. And yeah, she goes, she goes, I'm gonna fish for boogers. That's what she says, right.

And she's a very nice lady. I get the humor and she goes, you might tear up a little bit, and I'm like, fun, fuck that. I'm a man. I ain't cheer up for shit. I'm a man baby. She goes up one side and I'm like oh, and she goes up the other side. I'm like oh. And I look at her and she's like, okay, you're all set. I'm like, thank you. As I do you show insurance? Yes you do. Because last night when I was doing Twitch,

something popped on during the aw broadcast. I think it might have been a commercial or something, and it was CVS or I got an email I can't remember which one, but they're selling COVID test now for twenty three ninety nine. Okay, you could just run. If you don't want to be bothered by going to one of the stations, you can just go to CBS and buy this test and you'll know in fifteen minutes if you have it or not. Well, I had to get a certain type of test. That

was the other thing. There was either one rapid test that is in New York that I could have gotten, or this PCR test. I don't think that one's going to be this PCR test. Okay, it's a guaranteed forty eight hour turnaround. The only thing I can give them credit for is if you think back to like March April, when people were getting tests and they were getting lost and it was taken ten days and people were sweating it out. Now it takes guarantee of forty eight hours.

And I had it even before the forty hours. I mean, if I took the test to nine thirty am Tuesday, I had it at five thirty am today, So yeah, it was interesting. Again, I wouldn't do it again. My nose was irritated for the rest of the day because just the inside of your nose is you know, if it gets a flame from cotton, it's that wasn't comfortable. So whatever, it's done. But I'm looking forward to going up to New York for the first time in almost

five years. Yeah, so it's gonna be an interesting one. Yeah, just be careful. I was hoping to come back and see you on the way back, but we couldn't sync up yet again. Now I think it's I'm taking it personal. The next time I will officially take it personal. Don't take it personal because I offered to change plans and you said, my pot I didn't accommodate that, and I was like, huh, I said, don't worry about I got to get back, rush back. I met my uncle, offered

lunch after the thing I have on Saturday. I was like okay, and I had to run back. I was also offered good body of mine has a signing out on Long Island with a couple wrestling superstars. He's projected to come by say hi. I was like, I cannot do it. I gotta get right back to Virginia. I'm so in demand these days, jeez, I know. I got a text from Brian Myers wanting to go to Jimmy Seafood to do their podcast, but in the date that

they offered, I'm not available for so interesting bummer. Maybe in the future I can hook up with those guys, but right now I don't know. I have a May in July, are the oh, and I have something in November. But that's pretty much it. That's a long time away. Yeah, that's might as well be that might as well be the future. All right, let's see, So we have a really cool interview today. I was digging this one. I was listening to a lot of music afterwards, listening to

the stylings of Harry Slash. What a great uh, what a great guest that we had on Yeah, he's and I've spoken to him afterwards as well about a couple of things. But yeah, he's you know, he's been around as long as most of the guys have, so I knew he would have some good stories to tell him.

He did, He delivered, So it's a good listen. Paul Hayman story was my favorite by I won't spoil anything, I will say though, I listened to a twelve minute clip or video of all the different versions of the ECW song there's like five different versions that were used. Guys got some talent, you know, and he was there for a reason. Yeah, and I say I say it in their interview. Every time I hear it, I get goosebumps because it just brings me back to that place

where I remember shows starting. Let's go, let's get let's get it. You know. We were so excited and Harry was a big part of the company. So I'm glad we got to sit down and talk to him. All right, throw it to the interview, No, throw it to the end. There you go. I'll just introduce them with Harry Slash. So, Harry, I'm happy to see you back at you. Yes, absolutely, I saw you right before the pandemic. I believe January

of last year you stopped by the Wrestling Universe. Was it something like that, yeah, Jack Sabbath, Yeah, yes, so Shane and I got to chit chat with you there for a lot. It's great. No, that was not January. I think that was before. That was No, that was my last signing. It was January of twenty twenty. Okay, that was the last signing I did in person, and I saw you there. I was happy to see you because it had a while. Yeah, so let's start with this.

What have you been up to lately? Sitting in the same chair I'm talking to you now for the last year. Well besides that working on music, are you doing a real job, like what's going on in the world. Prior to the pandemic. I was about to start rehearsals. I had about a dozen shows booked for last year. I was going to be getting on the Newport Folk Festival, which is a really, really big music event up at Newport,

Rhode Island, and then it all disappeared. So I, like everybody else in my universe, have been writing this out. Most of the people I know are in the entertainment world in some form or another, and it all came to a crashing hault last February last March. Yep. Yeah, a lot of my friends are not doing so well. I'm okay for the time being. I could ride this out for another six months to a year if I have to, but others can't. You know. Right now, New

York is trying to figure things out. I believe live entertainment will start shortly, but at like minimum capacity, which trying to do a live show with twenty five percent capacity. You're just bleeding money. You're not making any money, you're

losing money. You know, as far as recording studios that came to the grinding hall too, and a lot of the higher end studios will only take one client day and you're paying for like twelve hours but only working for eight because the first two and last two they dedicate to completely sanitizing the place. And even still, my good friend, my saxophone player, did a session and he got COVID. Wow, even though he was the only person

in the booth. You know, it may have been from the session, it may not have been, but he was super careful. And then the next thing you know, he spent about like a week and a half in the hospital. Wow. Well, you know, as far as I know, the apes haven't started talking yet, so you know, as soon as that happens, I'm done, I'm out of here. Well are you still with the Slash Tunes? Yes? Okay, the Slash Stones is

basically anybody I'm playing with at that moment. Yeah, you just rotate and yeah, yeah, going on, like thirty different people in and out of that band at one point or another. Yeah. Right, so I met you obviously, through ECW. Yeah, you were friends with Paul Hayman. Yeah. How did your friendship with him come about? Like? Where did you meet Paul? I know, I know the story, but people don't. I want people to know how you got into this wacky

world of professionals. I met Paul. I met Paul Hayman waiting online to use the bathroom at the China Club, Okay, and had absolutely no idea who he was or what he did for a living because I wasn't watching wrestling back then. Now, what year was this ninety? Okay? So was he in w CW at the time, probably, honestly, I yes, yes, I think he was in wc wherever it was that he won the Manager of the Year

award for Pro Wrestling Illustrated. Yeah, okay, I think it was w c Well, yeah, it was probably WCW, because there was one time at the Limelight. You know, I'd been channel surfing, you know, hitting the clicker, and you know, I came across some wrestling thing that I thought was complete. Three stooges, goofy, and then that Sunday night at the Limelight, I'm like, hey, I saw this stupid thing, this one guy with a tennis racket. This other guy would a

cell phone and they had this stupid fencing match. It was hysterical. It was him that I was talking about, but I didn't realize it was him. Right. Did he take offense to that? No? He thought it was great because I was actually one of the few people within the club world that treated him like a person and not like poly dangerously. I just knew Paul right. I didn't know what a Pulley dangerously was. How did you

hear your waiting to go to the bathroom? Like, do you go, you do your duty, you come out, and you see him again, and you just strake up a conversation. Actually, no, okay, all right, it's been a long time, so I might as well talk about this. I wasn't using going into

the bathroom to use the bathroom. I was going into the bathroom to take a couple of hits of pot okay, And he was online behind me, and I'm like, hey, dude, if you need to piss ahead, I'm not going to pee, you know, but don't get weird on me or anything, becuse I'm gonna have to beat the hell out of you. And yeah, so he's like, well, I don't really need to pee either, and we ended up in the bathroom. It wasn't a cocaine drug thing. It was I just wanted to smoke weed and he wanted to smoke a

little of his own thing. And I opened up. I had a secrets ten, you know, the cough drop ten. Yes, that I kept the pot in. And he describes it like the briefcase in pulp fiction where you open it up and light emanates from it, and like his eyes lit up. It's like, what is that? Trees? And we smoked a couple of bowls and then we hung out. And the next thing, I know, every time I go to it, like the Limelight or the China Club or one of those really cool clubs that no longer exist

there he was. So for a couple of years, I'd be hanging out with the guy three nights a week. Had no idea what he did for a living, but because of the way people treated him, I thought he was either like a restaurant owner, a mobster, a drug dealer, pornographer, And it turns out he was a little bit of all of them, we come to find out right, very hard to believe, by the way, with all the posters and pictures behind you that you would partake in such

debauchery in the bathroom there. Well, so you mean to tell me that you hang out with Paul all this time and his wrestling never pops up to you, not at all. There was one time I dropped a friend off at LaGuardia Airport and she was heading to Florida. I as I'm leaving the terminal, he's walking in. He's going on the same flight because it was a connecting flight in Atlanta, Okay, and like, Hey, what are you doing here? He's like, Oh, I'm going down to Atlanta, Atlanta.

What the hell are you going to Atlanta for? And that's when he remembered I didn't know what he did. I didn't know what he did for a living. He's like, Oh, I got a parking ticket down there. I'm like, can't you just mail it in? And he's even bullshitting you now, not really bullshitting me. It's like he didn't see a reason to bring it up. I guess he was bullshitting probably probably Okay. Really had no idea what he did for a living. It was just some cool dude I'd

like to hang out with. So what happens when you find out, like, are you like taking aback? Are you like what? Because it's a weird. It's very weird considering all the other promoters would be like, hey, Paulie, here's some drink tickets. So I figured, all right, this guy's a wise guy. Doesn't make a difference to me. There's a club event. I forget what they renamed the club, but it was a very famous club in New York called Octagon, and I knew the promoters in there, and

they had a whole bunch. It was like three floors, so they had all sorts of events. They had a fashion show, they had a jam session, they had this going on, that going on, and then the presentation of the Manager of the Year award to Paul Dangerously. That's great. I didn't go for the Paully Dangerously thing. I went because all my friends were in the band that were playing.

So I get to the club, I go up to the VIP room and there's Paul hanging out, but this time he's not wearing cowboy boots and jeans and a leather jacket. He's in a suit. I didn't think much of it. He's like, what are you doing? Here. It's like, oh, I came for the jam to support Matt and Steve, who were the promoters, and there's some stupid wrestling thing going on. I figured check that effect my exact words. About an hour later, I go back up to the

VIP room. They've got a six foot tall projection screen showing the best of Polly Dangerously. And that's when it clicks for you. Not yet, I look at Look you got to get hit over head with the ass the pot Yeah. Yeah, I look at the screen, I look at Paul. I look back at the screen. I look back at Paul, and the first thought that came into my mind is, oh, wow, my friend is one of those freaks that dresses up like pro wrestlers. So you're just thinking in your head he looks like Pollly Dangerously.

I'm thinking he's a cosplayer. Oh dear god, Harry. I didn't it's it didn't really click. And then he comes up. He puts his arm around my shoulder. He's like, so, who is that handsome guy on the screen. I'm like, that's you. That's what you do for a living. Finally, yeah, I'm like, okay, cool, you want to I don't know what to say against him after you called him an idiot forty times and didn't know it. Oh, it was

another time. I was trying to do this thing at the Ritz where I was telling him the idea of putting a ferris wheel inside of a club and like all sorts of weird stuff, and I kept telling him about this stand up comedy routine about the invisible wrestler, and it just didn't click. I wasn't watching wrestling at the time, yeah, you know, and when I when I would be channel surfing, it would be you know, in the distance on a small screen, so it's not like

he was that recognizable. You know, we didn't have high definition back in the night. But you're you see him in this room, you know, they're giving an award out and then you think he's cosplaying kind of on Harry. You're smart, Yeah, I guess, but it just two and two didn't make that up to four at that moment because I was met with the guy for a while. Yeah, I I didn't have a clue that he was involved

in that. So you're friends with him when he jumps over to EA C dub at this point, Yes, you're aware of everything that's going on because you I remember you. I mean, were you there from the get go when he came in? No, no, no, you guys were running primarily out of Philadelphia, Philly, New York, New Jersey. You hadn't really broken into New York yet, not not Where Island, not New York City. I guess it was upstate. But I kept getting invitations through Mike Lawler, who you guys

all called spider Man. He's one of the guys I work with in the band, and he kept giving me inations. I didn't want to go to wrestling. The last time I watched wrestling, Bruno permed his hair, became the commentator, and I was done with it. Plus I didn't have cable for the longest time, so that whole eighties boom, the rock and wrestling thing, the five days a week on cable, I didn't have any of that. So it

was totally totally out of it. And I'd be getting the invitations to go to like Bethlehem and Allentown and Philadelphia, and I would use the excuse that I had an old Bronco that had three hundred thousand miles on it. Literally, yeah, I said it wouldn't make it, so I get a phone call from him. It's on a Friday. He's like, hey, I want you to come to the show. I said, dude, my car won't make it to Pennsylvania. He goes, the show's on Queens Boulevard. It's ten minutes from your house.

Lost Battalion, Bion Hall. Okay, ten minutes from your house. I'll send a cat. I said, okay, all right, I'll come to see your show. What time does it start. He's like, it's from eight to eleven. So I showed up at ten forty five. Okay, this much. I didn't really want to see it. Well, I didn't really pay attention. It wasn't my cup of tea at the time. Until I finally caught the ECW television show at like two in the morning, and I'm like, okay, this isn't the

cartoony stuff that now. That totally turned me off to it. And I came out to see the first show. From beginning to end was out in Long Island. I want to say, Deer Park, Yeah, okay. And I had no idea who anybody was, so I kept saying, who do I cheer for? Is what I kept asking him. It's like, whoever you want. During the night, there was a brawl with the Dudleys and I forget who else, but it was Big Dick Dudley, Alex Yeah, and Primo Carnera, the third who was there at Big Wido. I think you

guys probably something. Okay. So they're outside of the main area and there's like a section that's like separated with plexiglass wall plexiglass windows, and Alex is banging Primo in one and he's banging him in the other. There was one that was actual glass, and Alex banged Primo through the plate glass and the glass went flying everywhere, and I'm like, Okay, this is definitely not cartoons. This is cool.

And then the next thing after that was the Gangstask and I'm like, Okay, this is crazy, this is sick, this is demented, this is dangerous. I can get into this. I'm here for it. Yeah, yeah, you know. And then I think I came up to I went to someplace upstate fairgrounds. Yeah, I forget what town. It was where I saw another show from beginning to end, and that was more of the insanity. And then I finally went out to the arena for the first time and I'm like, okay,

I'm in Okay, I'm here. So with your musical background, did you pitch to do stuff for us to It was Paul Okay, okay, if I was around before I ever did music, if you remember production, and then during the week, Paul would get me to do stuff like get an ad in the daily news and little stuff like that. It wasn't until the crossover with WWF at the Manhattan Center, which was before the barely legal pay

per view. So okay, yeah, February of ninety seven, if I'm not they needed clones of what the guys were using because Taz was using a song by Kiss, Tommy was using Man in the Box, Dann Man was using Metallica so on Getting Away with Forever, Yeah, which blew my mind. But for Vince's TV, he needed soundlikes. Okay. Now, this is the Monday before the show that he calls me up. At the time, I had an office. I'm not going to get into it. I was I was

a in a legitimate universe at that time, Okay. And he calls me up and he's like I need this, this and this. I'm like, I have no idea what you're talking about. I was like, well, I need you know how in WCW Diamond Dallas page comes out to Nirvana, but it's I don't know. I'm like, no, I don't have a clue, So I said, hold on, I went there was I forget if it was Tower Records or

whatever it was. When they still had CD stores. I went to the store a couple of blocks away on thirty fourth Street in Manhattan, and I bought whatever wrestling CDs they had, and I went back and I listened to them, like went through them. In the office. I called Paul back up. I said, dude, this is garbage. There's like two parts in a song if they get to a B or a change and it's just a riff, And this is what you want. He goes, Yeah, that's what I need. Can you do it? I said, yeah,

I'll need a couple of weeks. He goes, I need it by Monday. I need it in forty five minutes. Yeah, a three minute song takes a lot longer than three minutes to record. Yeah, it does four minutes just to drop it down. Oh you know, I got to write the tune and I gotta find the man, so you'll do it right, you can do it. Let me can I stump in for a second. So you listen to

the music that was out of the time. They'd only published a few CDs at that point, and it's really very basic and a lot of the songs do sound nearly identical. So right, you're expert ear you hear that, and you're like, this is like, this is a walk in the park for what I could do. Basically, it's you know, three out of four bars, you know, as long as the fourth bar doesn't sound exactly like another song, and then you're not technically ripping somebody off. You're creating

a sound alike. You know, Tommy Dreamer, every company he's worked for, has made a sound alike of Man in the Box. You know, there's like five different versions out there, including one that I did. So, you know, because of scheduling, I was able to put a band together, which was some pretty badass players. It was Richie Scarlett and Steve Budgie from the Ace Freely Band and a currently Grammy Award winning producer named Eddie Wall who produced El Nino

in Primer fifty five. Later on, and we booked twenty four hours in Eddie's studio in Yonkers or Mount Vernon, I forget where he lived at the time. I went in there at nine o'clock on a Saturday and came home nine thirty on a Sunday, and in twenty four hours, myself and these the the Warriors that I had, for lack of a better term, cranked out about four or five tunes that were pretty terrible, but that's what they

wanted fit right in now. Yeah. So then we had the Manhattan Center and you know, I showed up with the DAT tapes. There was no CD burners yet, you know, CD burners hadn't made their way. If you wanted a CD of something, you had to pay forty five dollars at CD at that point. Wow. Yeah. So I went to the Manhattan Center with the DAT tapes and was trying to get a sound check from them because quite literally, you know, this stuff had just barely been mixed, it

hadn't been mastered. And instead I ended up playing Jim Rummy with the Undertaker and eating catering from over Hey Hey. The So the songs they played at the Manhattan Center that night for the ECW guys was you yes, And you could tell? You could tell because it was distinctly different, and I remember the show well, we talked about it a lot because somebody else on the call wasn't at that show. But you know, the music really was different.

But I think they ended up using the Dreamer music for Sandman when Sandman came through the crowd, so you could just tell there was something a little different than the WWF touch at the time. Yeah, I'm glad they didn't use the Sandman music for Sandman because that was, oh lord awful, that was absolutely terrible. Well, I didn't watch it because Shane Douglas would not let me go. Yeah, so I was bitter and refused to watch it. I was so mad. So so you do the music for them?

I thought I was done at that point. Yeah, Like, when when does it come to you? Or when does Paul actually say, hey, you know, we're using all of this music, like we were using Thunderkiss sixty five I think as our opening music. When when does he come to you and say, Harry, what can you do? Does he suggest that you do it? Or does the light bulb click and you could do something cool? It was taz as brother. I like this, I want to use it all the time, and I was like, no the

music from New York. In New York. Oh okay, okay, as liked what I did better than what he was using. But what I did needed some serious work. There were a lot of bad notes, attitude, guitars, bad mistakes. With such a limited time to work, I figured, you know, it's going to be on in the background, people be screaming, the announcers will talk, nobody will notice. When Taz wanted to use it full time, I said, I got to

go back in the studio and make it right. You know, there's there's a couple of things on there that I'm not happy about. So I did that, and that became his theme right with Paul's blessing. Of course he had to approve it. And because Tas and Perry Saturn worked together at the school, it became a politics thing where if Taz has his own music, then Perry Saturn has to have his own music. Okay, so now you're doing songs individually for the boys who's coming to you and

asking for them. Yeah, but still not something I expected to be an ongoing thing. You know, Perry Saturn wanted this, you know, elements of this song in that song, and he wanted it to be robotic and kind of like future Terminators type of thing. So we came up with total elimination. And then along comes the pay per view and granted again a week before the show. I need this, I need this and I need this. Paul, you got to be kidding me. No, you'll do it right. You're

giving me three days. You'll do it right. Don't you regret going in the bathroom that night with Oh God, I should have just gotten high in the parking lot for God's sake. Well, I loved our theme. I loved I absolutely loved it. And to this day, the network now Peacock, they use the most ridiculous music, And I mean, don't they own your stuff? Yeah? Why are they not? Do you have any I've never gotten the network. I will not get Peacock. So I couldn't answer what they're using.

I have no clue. I don't understand that they have the whole library of your stuff at their feet and they're not using any of it from what I'm doing. Wouldn't answer why they're not are they're not even using the UCW theme. I don't watch on the later shows that it's that it was used on yes, but if you go back to ninety five ninety six, it is

just piped in you know, Musac very horrible. This didn't mean so it would be anything after ninety seven because it didn't exist before that, right, But you would think that they could just you know, move it over the instead of using the generic elevator music that they're using. Why wouldn't they use the library that you provided them. I have no clue. I got some DVDs from them, you know, they were supposed to send me everything. They used my stuff on and on one of the DVD's

that they have Tazis music, they overdubbed their own music. Yes, yes, remember that. And I'm like this, why would you spend the money in the time when you own it. That's that's my point, That's what I'm trying to say. Like they have all this stuff and they're not using it. It just doesn't And it was good. I loved the ECW theme. Like that to me when I hear that to this day, this is so corny, but I get

like goosebumps because I just remember. But I remember being at sh and hearing us play that, and I knew, okay, we're starting. It's time, we're gonna work, we're gonna like. It brings me back years yea, being a performer and here like that song told me, Okay, this show's about to start, we're gonna do this, and it used to get me pumped up. You know, I loved it. I just thought it was so well done and it just fits perfectly. Thank you, you know. Just just so you

know I've I've mentioned this on other interviews. The inspiration for the E c W theme came from the theme from Jaws. Ah. Okay, I can see it now that you say it. Yeah, because when you would watch the movie Jaws and you'd hear bot, yeah, you knew shit was about to break off and it was about to be violent and bloody. I love it. So that's you know, you got that slow build and then the whole thing

just blows up. And that's what we were going for, you know, get the audience, get the people, pump that the anticipation, and then damn, you know, just go all out. That's how I just described it, though, Like that's how I felt when they would play. When it would come on, my nerves would start to get back because I'm like, okay, we're starting Oh my god, I have to I have to do this. I have to get ready this, you know, and it just it just made it woke me up

and we were starting our night. So it just fit perfectly. And I mean to this day when I hear it, I get goosies, I get the little goosebumps. I love it. That was another one of those crazy things where I had a deadline. I had to master Tazz's music, master the Eliminators music. We had to write and create the extreme theme, and there was a couple of other tunes.

I think I did one for Sassy K that never got used because he brought his own music, okay, And then it all had to be done with it a certain time because I had to be at the Terry Funk banquet. Another thing wasn't allowed to go to. Yeah, so our subjects brought up good to heal. Dang, let's talk about because I've mentioned this before and it's so funny to this day, no one knew that this was me, and I know, I think you know what I'm going to refer to. I don't remember the story about how

this came about. All I remember is going to your apartment or your studio, or whatever it was, and we were at three in the morning doing and we had a show the next day. Why did Paul make me do that? It was my idea to be honest. Yeah, Well, here's the thing, Franny. Nobody gives you the credit for completely transforming when you would go through that curtain. As far as actors go, you were one of the best ones in the company because the person backstage I liked

the person out that went through the curtain. I wanted to hit with rocks, and everything about you, including the tone of your voice changed when you were in the ring, when you were on the microphone, and with enough little digital manipulation, I knew that we could get away with it where it would be like an in house thing, you know, like we knew but the fans didn't know.

And at some point, because of the whole Rick Rude angle, I figured it's another arsenal for something Paul could use where Shane finds out that Francine sang on Rick Rude's music at how can we never did that? That's something we never did, but no one knew. That was me, not a clue. And what I loved about it was, you know, okay, because of the time constraints, we had Elks Lodge. On a Friday. My writing partner Roder Raccone

came to the show. We all went back to Rod's studio, which was in a terrible part of the Lower East Side. See I don't remember much of this. Well do you remember this? When we pulled up and there was a bunch of women and you said, why are they out there? And I said, oh, because they're crack horse. Yeah, why are these women out here at four in the morning. I don't know the horse. You might play one on TV,

but they play one in real life. My memory is is shit, honestly, Like I think because of like the concussions that I've had. And then I blame it on pregnancy too, because they say when you get pregnant, you forget. I don't remember. I have forgotten more than I remember. Unfortunately, that makes me super sad because people will trigger my memory, like sometimes I'll go, oh, yeah, that's right, and then

I'll remember the night that I was with you. All I remember is just it was super duper late and we were jotting things down, like on a piece of paper something, and I remember singing into a micro If you call it. It wasn't even singing, but I wrote the lyrics as we were there. Yeah, I had the lyrics in my head. I just didn't have them on paper. I'm not a good pen and paper thing when it comes to music. I keep everything in my head. I've got thirty songs here right now, but none of them

are on paper. But I was writing it down because I wanted to have I didn't want to mess up. I don't think. I think I wrote it down and you couldn't read my writing, so I rewrote it down. Yeah, okay, so I'm singing this song. I don't even know why, don't know what happened. I just was told go with Harry. At this point, I knew you long enough that I trusted you. I'm like, okay, And I do remember the next morning you dropping me off at Dreamer's house and

then I drove with him to Philly. Yes, I remember that you stayed at my house, separate bedrooms, separate rooms. Yes, you're a complete gentleman. I must say thank you. Yes, no funny business. But then it was super early, and I remember I had to go and I went to Dreamers and then we all went to the arena I don't know if it was the arena the next day, I think it was Philly. Okay, then I must have shown up afterwards. Maybe I think it was Philly. I could be wrong, because you know, I just said my

memories crap. But I just remember going to his house for whatever reason, and then getting in the car and taking the trip. But I never, like, I was never told why am I doing this? Like, I never had there was no concept behind it. It's just like you're gonna sing rick song and I was like oh, and then I'm thinking, okay, well when it comes on, is everybody gonna like point? No one even like I don't

even know if they were listening to this song. But years later, when I tell people, they'll google it or they'll pull it up on YouTube and they'll be like, that was you, And I'm like, yeah, we did it on the air. I had no clue. I never even thought twice about it. And then when we listened to it, and I really was like listening, I was like, oh, yeah, that's you. That was me. Well, that that was something I had to fight. Honestly, I had to fight Paul

on it. He's like, no, you can use there's other singers. I'm like, no, no, no, you know, but who would do it for free? Paul? I need you get paid for that special uh that special track that I recorded? Well, like I said, I I saw it like if people found out it's something that they could use in the angle, right, And we never we never did any of that stuff.

Nobody ever figured it out. No, I know, like oh cool, but it was fun because that was something like that Rob Van Dam's video where I had to dance around. That was so terrible. Paul said he wouldn't er it, but he said, my my piece was the saving grace, but he still wouldn't er it. Have you ever seen that? Yeah, I've seen it. It was really but that's what they

told us to do, you know what I mean. But like, I never I never thought I would be like a video vixen dancing around and they're like lipsing and I don't even know the song, like what is the song?

You know? But that and like singing. It kind of got me out of my element and let me like now, honestly, like I never wanted to be like a singer after I did that, But I said to myself, this was something I probably would never ever get a chance in my life to do, and it was something fun, you know, and we made it fun even though I was exhausted.

I just remember you and I staring at each other and laughing, and because we were at the point of like it was super duper late, I knew I had to get up early, and I knew I had to be somewhere else, and I was just like, oh my god, what am I doing? You know, But it's it's something

I'm I I'm happy that I did. Ye got me, It got me to, you know, bond with you more because I only knew you as Harry Paul's friend at the you knowhows that many people knew I was doing the music either, Yeah, you know, I didn't put myself over in the back and you know have a T shirt that says I'm the rock star and oh you

were very quiet. I saw the production being more important, you know, the stuff I would do with the live events and behind the scenes as being far more important than the music, to be honest with you, you know, because it could have been any other song playing, you know, but who's going to sneak sit into the building, Who's going to get this done? Who's going to distribute a

thousand heads in five minutes. Yes, that was, in my opinion, far more more important and more noteworthy than recording and writing the music. I also found it really cool that you ended up they ended up using that same music, the same song remixed for you later on, if you remember, I think I yeah, I think they did it without the vocals, right, Yeah. Originally Paul wanted me to do that, take the words out, remix it, change it a little

to use for Tammy. Okay, but the writing was on the wall where she was headed and never ended up being used for her, and ended up being used for you. Yeah. Interesting, Okay, well that makes sense. I guess you know. It worked bit. You know, I thought it was ironic, but you know, hey, you know, people dug it. You know they used it on the live events when you would come out by yourself. Right, they were using the remix of simply Ravishing. I forget what we renamed. I think we called it TNA ninety

nine or something. I don't know. That's a great name. I have no idea. I remember the simply ravishing part. Yeah, oh god, how funny. That's bringing me back. That's hilarious. I'm trying to think, like, wait, can I did you hear his simply ravishing music from WCW. Did they play that for you at all? Harry, No, because it it's weird. It's not. It sounds in the same vein, but it's a completely different song. That's like a more it's lyrical. It's because we all ripped off the David Rose song

The Stripper. Yeah, it's funny because when we listened to it on the air again, I hadn't heard it, you know, in ages, and I said that. I was like, well, I was like, man, I was like, he ravashing Recruits, got pretty damn good music out there in the universe. Oh my god. Trying to be breathy. Yeah, if I were meata correctly, we did different takes of different voices. Probably one was more of a nasty voice, but then we went with the breathy Marilyn Monroe kind of thing,

which is what we ended up using. Okay, hilarious. I don't know. I just found it, like, okay, I could say I did a I recorded a song. Yeah that no one knows it's me, but that's okay. Three in the morning in a studio surrounded by crack horse. There you go. You should crack horse on backup. They should have been in the background doing the doobie doos. That's hilarious. I do you still talk to Paul via electronic medium? Once in a blue move, once in a blue moon.

The last time I saw him was at his father's funeral. I went to his dad's funeral because I knew his dad and he was a great guy. But the crazy Paul Hayman that I knew ceased to exist the day his daughter was born. And I'm not saying that in a bad way. I'm saying in a great way that the he had a child, his priorities changed, of course, which is awesome. Yeah, you know, he's still basically the same guy, but he's not, which is a good thing.

I'm not saying in a bad way at all. No, And I can totally relate because when I had my children, it's not about me anymore. It's about them. Yeah, you know, so you do have to change your priorities. Maybe when his son graduates college, I'll get a call at four in the morning saying meet me at Sargees. The response will be no, I'm too old to go to Elliott five in the morning, right, I get it. Well, I want to thank you because, like people don't know, you're

one of the unsung heroes within our company. Like you, you know, there we had a core group, We were a family. We say this all the time. You were a part of that family, and like all of us, if something needed to be done and we had the time to do it, of course we would do it. But there were people like you who would be in the back and you would be sitting there and if something needed to be done, you would be one of the first to jump up and go do it. I remember you took me to was it the mall the

night it was you with Bikini Showdown? And first of all, it wasn't even bikini weather or middle winter. It was winter. So Paul says, we have a lull that I don't have anything big for tonight. Can you do a bikini contest with Dawn? So I'm like, oh, really, we didn't really do those, you know, And I said, well, I don't have a bikini, and he says, I'll give you money, go to the store. And here Dawn didn't have to wear the bikini. I was the only one who had

to wear the bikini. So he says, go to the store, and I said, well, how am I supposed to get to this store? Comes Ariy. We didn't buy bikinis. If you're where did we go? I forget, But we went to two or three different places looking for for swimwear and we ended up buying underwear. We bought lingerie. Yes that you could see through it. Yes, And I didn't realize you can see through it. And thank god I was like completely shaven, because if I wasn't. But I

said to myself, where the hell am I? I needed a robe and I need it. Uh yeah, I needed a bikini. But you know, Harry jumped up, I'll take her. And that's the kind of crew that we had, So you know you, I don't know if people like said thank you to you in the past. I know I have, but I'll say it again, Like, without guys like you, we would have been in chaos because we would have been running around like chickens without heads, you know, because

a lot of us couldn't physically leave the building. We needed to stay there, so for people like you, we'd be screwed. What was funny about that is because we could only find underwear at one point like I need to ask you for a favor. Can you see my And I'm like, you really want me to look there? Come on? Jerry Lynn always says this. I always asked him, do I have cameltoe? I trusted you guys like you were my brothers. I just trusted everybody, so I needed

an opinion. So for you, for you fans out there, there was one time in my life where I had to get on my knees and stare at Francine's crotch to get my knees hard night at work hard. Hey, you know somebody had to do it. You know, I took one for the team. You did, and I appreciate it, and I thank you. And you know, like I said, you did a lot for us, and it might have seemed to you like nobody appreciated you. I always did, so, yeah, thank you for being I mean I had a lot

of fun with you. I mean that's when people ask me if I miss e c W. I say, no, what I miss is hanging out with the people and just you know, having fun, because we had a lot of fun. Oh god, they had a lot of fun. There was I remember, I forget what episode of South Park where Cartman started doing I Want to Sing the Alien? Are you interesting that in the back all the time I would do a dance, remember, yes, for weeks, for weeks, Oh my god, I have to go back and watch

that episode. We would be sitting there for hours waiting to either get paid or do promos. So I'm just like, Okay, I'm going to do some you know, some song and dance and entertain these people because that's how I am. Yeah, and you either hated me and told me to get the hell out of your face, or people would clap along with me to watch me do. Yeah. You know there's one other thing. I remember when you got hurt when Bam Bam dropped you. Yeah, okay, this is afterwards.

You're we're all back at the hotel, okay, and people are hanging out in your room. Yes, okay. This is where I bring up another unsung hero. Has you remember? Okay? It was one of the guys that wasn't really an ECW guy. I think it was an ex WWE guy that was in the company at the time that had a notorious reputation for taking advantage of women that couldn't defend themselves. I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm not going to mention the name. You can mention it

if you want. But he came in. We talked about it before. We we we we talked about it before. But you can continue. Are we talking about an express kind of guy? Continue? Just continue the story. So when he heard that you were all marcoed up on painkillers in your hotel room or whatever they gave you, he's like, oh, his eyes lit up, and he came to see how you're doing. He walks in the door. Paul gets up and he grabs me and has He's come with me. He goes over to the guy says, this is what's

gonna happen. You're gonna say, hey, I hope you're feeling better, and you're going to leave. You're not going to come back because if anything happens to this woman, this is my friend Has and this is Harry. They're going to take care of you. And the guy's like, what are you talking about? And Has looks at the guy dead eyed. He goes, I have a portable settling torch in the trunk of my car and I s three days cutting you into small pieces. Yeah, well, thank you, and he

looks at me. He goes, what are you going to do. I'm going to watch and have fun. Well here's the thing. And it's funny you mentioned this because I was on Delauded because our resident doctor who was really a foot doctor that was friends were raving. He took me to the hospital and got the x rays and it was broken. You all know the story. And he says, give her the good stuff. I think Paul said, put her on Delauded. That'll help her. Right. I come back and everybody's trying

like where's the Delauded in your purse? And I'm like, I only have thirty, like get out here. But they I think they they they gave me a pill like when I was there, so I'm loopy and you knew me. I wasn't really, I wasn't into drugs, right, and I remember being yeah, like I would have a cocktail or two and that was it. But I remember being in the bed and my roommate was Michael Farren. Michael was taking care of me that night and all the boys were in the room. I remember what you're talking about.

He came in and I had thirty of the party was in my room. There was like thirty guys and just hanging out and cause and I didn't do much. I still had remember I had my hospital galne on and I was just out of it and I was just kind of sitting there and people had the TV on. There was a case of beer and whatever. The next day, Tommy Dreamer tells me, do you believe that? So and so asked me if we should do like a gang

bang because you were on your drug? And I was like what And he's like, oh, I grabbed him and I basically he goes, I want to throw him out of the room. He goes when he suggested that, I was like, I the fuck out of here, and he just got really like intent and I was just like who does that kind of thing? Like thank God? Like I thank god to this day. That company that I was with wasn't a bunch of scumbags, you know what I mean? Because if it was anybody else, something bad

could have happened to me. And he and his partner disappeared from the company shortly after that. But has who he was the arms master in the video game, Uh huh okay. The Dudlings actually said they were afraid of him because he used to be Soldier of Fortune magazine on the bathroom and order stuff out of Soldier of Fortune grenades. Oh has Has kept a list of everybody's injury. He had to exploit it. And when Sid came into the company, Has was staring at him and looking at him.

He's like, I got to figure out how to take this guy down, you know, you know if something happened, and the next week at the arena, has Has had an army issued taser with one of those thirty foot courts just for Sid in case something to think about it. You're a young girl, you know, I'm super young. I get hurt, you come back, And not one thought crossed my mind and anyone, any one of these guys would try to take advantage of me. And that's why I

was just like, oh, yeah, they can come. Because everybody kept saying we want to come see you, and I said, well, you all can come up to the room if you want to drink, and people were bringing their beer and whatever they were doing. And then this guy who is an outsider because he wasn't one of us now, but when I heard that he did that, it honestly like I hated him and I never said anything about it to anyone because I didn't want any heat. But I'm thinking,

God forbid, what a predator like who says that? And thank God that you guys all had my back. And that's all I'm saying, because you don't know, like if it was in another company, bad stuff might have happened, if it was an episode of Dark Side of the Ring Waiting, if he had come back to the room, he would have not made it out of Philadelphia. Oh my god, Sarry All wasn't kidding when he told the

guy that me and Has would spend three days torturing him. Unreal. Well, I guess he didn't understand the camaraderie and the family bond that we all had together because he was literally politicking to get this done and everybody's looking at him like are you crazy? Like and I'm oblivious. I'm just like sitting there like you know, oh you you weren't even part of the universe. You. I was just I mean, I remember everybody coming in and out, but I was

just chilling. Aunt. You were so narcoed out that night. The Long is no joke, bro, I broke my hip. Come on and basically DeLong and is synthetic heroine. Well that's what they gave me, and people were reaching for my person, like, get the hell out of here? Had this guy even done anything? Paul kept me. I think the reason Paul brought me around originally was not for music. It was because he knew I was a psycho, you know from you were there, Harry may like an arsenal

of weapons. Oh God, just just another reason for me to express my love for you and say thank you, because God forbid. I think has was the one that did the makeup when you were supposed to have a black eye. My black guy in New York. Yeah, I think his Spirit of seventy six with Jason and he did my uh my black eye. Yeah, he was. He was like mcg ivory. He could do anything if you needed you, give him a piece of gum and a

string and he would make a bomb. So great. Bring a piece of gum, two big lighters, and a tune of sandwich? Why the tun of sandwich? While I'm hungry? Are you? I can talk for hours here, but unfortunately we are out of time. Is there any are you on social media at all that people can follow your band? Once we get going Twitter, Harry Slash on various. I don't have a website right now because somebody held it hostage, all right, you build it, and decided they wanted three

times the amount of money we agreed on. So they've pulled my content. Even though there is a Harry Slash and a slash tones ww thing out there, there's nothing attached to it so for the time being, because there's no reason to do anything until the pandemic's over. I can be found on Facebook at Harry Slash, on Twitter at Harry Slash, and Instagram on Harry Slash, where I post stupid shit. Okay, sounds good. Well, I advise everyone

to follow him because he's a very funny man. But I'm so glad we got to chat, and I hope I see you again because I mean, you're one of the good ones. Thank you. I appreciate you so thank I mean when I last I saw you, we exchanged InFocus. I was supposed to take a ride down a Jersey Yeah. Yeah, and you know that little globe. See thanks pandemic. I know we'll get it done eventually, hopefully. Yeah. I don't know. If I ever make it up to New York, I'll let you know. And we can thank you, we can

do something. But I'm glad you came today, and I wish you nothing but success in love and back at you, Frannie. It was a pleasure talking to you, even if it was through a computer strip. No, next time it'll be live good. But next time I'll have my new teeth. Me too. I'm getting braces. Well, I had. I had an accident earlier this year and I cracked four of my front teeth out. Oh okay, well we'll both have new smiles, so that'll be in the process of root canals,

and then in two weeks I get caps. All right, good luck with that. Yeah, well, it was a stupid accident. My friend thought he was in dried when he was in reverse and he hit a tree and I went right into that. Ouch, Harry, that's extreme. Did you get up and say that you know this is extreme? No? Sold it? I no sold it, and we went, you know, and just kept moving on. The next day I was had my lip was blown up and parts of my

teeth were falling out. Oh god, well, good enough that line, and I hope to speak with you soon, my friend. Back at you was a pleasure. Thank you for having me on the show. Guys, you're welcome, take care of yourself, Bye bye, and there he goes, There goes Harry Slasher's a great, great chat that if you want to listen to that I saw it was. I think it's about fifteen minutes. It literally says it's all the EASDW Arena

entrance musics. I guess the variations. Yeah, it's YouTube. The one thing I didn't ask him about, and I would have loved to in retrospect, because I didn't think about it at the time. I don't think the song needed lyrics. I didn't like the one with the lyrics. That one didn't fit to me. Okay, do you like that one? I would have to go back and listen there. I

just remember the one that was always played. Yeah, So to me, it seems like maybe it was intended to have lyrics at first, and then the lyrics were removed. It's got a better feel to it with no lyrics, but the lyrics are there. I tend to think of Tad Corny for what E CW was. Yeah, I don't know. Like I said, I would have to go back and and jam to it for fifteen minutes and see what I liked better, but I want you to get I want you to get method when you do it. Yeah, right,

Harry's just super talented. Like he said, he had to come up with things on the fly and Paul, can you do it right now? And it's like, are you kidding me? So, you know, for the amount of time that he had, he he got some gems out of that and super talented guy. And I'm glad we're still friends to this day. So yeah, I love me some Harry Slash. I definitely got the Jaws vibe, like he talked about how that is great and I listened for

that specifically. I did get that vibe, so very very cool thing for the artists to point that out and you go back to listen. Yes, absolutely, Dan, and hmm, okay, I see it. I see it all right. So let's see what else we got going on this week. We are our Tickled Pink to Welcome Back Porn. Yes, I can't wait for this. I don't know how long it's been a while, it's been a minute. And I can't wait to see what you pulled out this time. I love it. Yeah, I just I was trying to see, like,

what's curring? What would people be into, you know, And I just found some gems and it's always fun watching and rating these things, so I'm excited about it. I wonder do you think that the porn industry, I never really looked into it. Do you think they kind of paused for the last year. Probably not. They're probably the safest place, right if you think about it. I mean, wouldn't it be funny if you see a porn and they have like a mask on there's a barrier between

the quarantine porno flexiglass with a little hole. That's hilarious. Yeah, there's a whole lo a hole high you fit your tongue in your you know. Well, they do have those masks that have the little uh part here in the middle. A lot of schools use them where the mouth is still visible. The porn people probably cut that out. At the point of having a mask where your mouth sticks out, Well, they like it's visible. So it's like it's it's visible,

but it's covered still. H Okay, it looks like saran wrap, to be honest with you. But it's on the it's a clear code clear. Yeah, it's like it's yeah, it's but just here, like it's the mask here is clear. I think, yeah, I've seen it. It's like in the schools. I've seen it. So in your school they don't have it because you're at home, your home. That's right. We don't wear mask here. Same thing my office here, you know I don't. Uh. Then we're gonna welcome our Patreon

member Joe in uh Hi. Joe has not joined us yet. One of the perks of joining us you get on say hi, We get to find out a little bit about you, You get to ask Francine some questions, and by the being by the boom, you're out of here. But that was gonna come on. Joe's gonna come on, say hi, And then for the watch along. I just like the pairing, kind of an odd one. I have seen them wrestle in a piggly wiggly uh parking lot, but this one's not. This is an E. C. W.

New Jack versus just incredible. Am I in this? You are in this, You're there. You don't do much in this one, but it's just an interesting pairing, interesting match. Okay, we'll see something we haven't watched before. But again, I have seen them wrestle at a piggly Wiggly. We might have to watch that one later. Is that a department store that is a Southern based supermarket chain. Oh yes, wrestled I like a year ago, or year or two one or two years ago they wrestled at Wiggly. All right, Hey,

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