All right, let's kick off the weekend style. Let's get it going right here, right now. This kid's eyes up here, and you're listening to your brand new eyes up here exclusively our Patreon channel and also simulcass later in the week on the Creative Control podcast. Now it's no by Now. My name is Chad, and every single weekend point here by my co host, the one and only the host of the show, the Grand Puba of Queen of Extreme Land.
She is the Queen of Extreme fanccene. I need the hat with the little tassel on the side, like the Flintstones or mister Cunningham or you know, one of those people that would be cool to wear. Would love I would love to see that. I would accessorize very nicely today. I know I could get it. I could get the dazzled one. Maybe Liz can make one on that thing on the cricket. We were talking about it the other night. I was I was giving her suggestions. Yes, that would
be great. So what's going on today, Well, it's it's been a busy couple of days. You know, as we're broadcasting this, we're recording a couple of days early. So my whole routine is thrown off. I'm sorry, but this was your suggestion. It was it was no, no, no, I'm not blaming anybody but myself, but it's just I'm thinking it's Friday when it's really Wednesday. I know it's
early this week and Thanksgiving this tomorrow. And when I was talking to I was talking to Troy, who's going to be joining us this week on Patreon as part of the fan Appreciation month. He was like, man, you guys really tape ahead of time. And I was like, we're never this early, but man, is to throw me off. Yeah, it's weird. I was thinking, like, you know what I have to do for the week, and yesterday I thought
was today. I thought Tuesday was Wednesday. I was about to take my trash out and I'm like, wait, this is the wrong day. And then I was like, oh tomorrow. I got panicked because I was like, wait a minute, is today Wednesday? Because I have to call I have to call Chad, but what is today? I was so confused, so I'm all off. I think we've only done this once or twice where we had to move it up a couple of days, but this is like, I think this is more of an egregious offender because of Thanksgiving
then being dropped. So as you're listening to this, Thanksgiving has already happened. Your stuff to the gills. Everybody had pumpkin pie. Yeah yeah, or you threw it out. We usually throw the bird right out because I'm not a big leftovers fan. But yeah, well, we're not even getting a bird. Are are you getting a breast? We're not. We don't like turkey. Oh okay, now I can eat It's weird. I can eat like lunch meat, turkey, love meat. I don't like turkey off the turkey, like carved turkey.
I'm not a big fan of that. So like, I usually don't ever eat turkey. And this year, we're not seeing family. It's just the five of us, so we what we are doing is we went on to the Wegman's website and I asked each person, what do you want to eat tomorrow? Because I'm not cooking. I said, I'm not cooking, I don't feel like cooking. I'm not cooking. I'm gonna be lazy this year. And my mom said I'll buy it because she's great like that, like every one she'll say, oh, let me treat you let me do.
So she wanted to buy Thanksgiving dinner. So every person picked something off of the Wagman's uh site, and we're just gonna hate it all up and it's going to be a shmorgasboard. Hubs bought like four different desserts. Wow. So we're covered with that and all I have to do is the dishes and I'm done. So I love it. I'd come, but covid you know it's a walk. I still I still want you and Liz to come for
one night to just partake in some booze and cheer. So, uh yeah, speaking of booze, I can tell you a funny story. So we recorded. Uh. I mean, by the time this hits creative control, like three weeks ago, I can honestly tell you and I and I do tell you. You know, if we're drinking, you know, we're texting, I'll tell you know how we're having whatever. I have a brand new winner in the clubhouse for the worst drinking night of my life? Oh p oh no, was it
because of the straight fireball? Well, it was this straight fireball. It was this weird root beer concoction that I took two giant shots of I don't know what the hell. It was something buel A McGillicuddy. So it was something mcgillicuddy's. It was something mcgillicuddy's root beer. And I took two giant shots of that and then liquor like. Look, they showed me the bottle. I said, I'll take it and a spirit okay, oh yeah, no, they showed me. They poured it in. I knocked it back and and then
I had glasses and glasses and glasses of wine. You don't mix whiskey wine and Meguilla cutty, shit, you don't mix it. Who gave you this? Who was the bartender? Well, the chats can't reveal anybody's names here in the air, but we, you know, we were safely commingling with other people, and uh it was I was not at a bar, was at somebody's house. I was out of it until four o'clock Saturday. That's when you turn on the recorder and you film yourself for Patreon. What are you You're
not thinking correctly? We need footage of this. It was so bad. It was so and my other worst night, and I remember it because it was the only other bad one. My twenty third birthday where I had to be carried out of a bar. I was on the floor of the bathroom shuki my guts out after tequila shots and I literally I think I had guys like pissing over my head. It was I cannot believe. And then I was literally until what's just stays my son
till Monday. Couldn't like laugh because I had such sore insides. But on the benefit, I think I lost like five pounds, so I'm happy about that. Really cute. I am so sorry. I'm surprised you didn't text me soon. Well, I figured i'd saved it for the for the air at that point, but that is bad. I did the exact opposite. I stayed sober, decorated the inside of the house, and we decorated the outside of the house. Very nice, very festive. I I've been wanting a contail, but I keep pushing
it off. But I think I'm gonna cave this weekend. So we have a lot of different He bought Fireball. We have jack Honey. He bought Bailey's, which is great in coffee or chocolate. Yes, I love it too. And he drinks this whiskey that blue. Mini told him about he's been mixing that with like a ginger ale and we just sip it like adults. We just sit there, we sip and it's quite relaxing. Well, whenever we do come for the night, I can tell you I am
officially never drinking again. So it's uh, I have I am. I am retiring temporarily from the alcohol game. It was a nice run. It was a nice when he has a glass of wine in front of him, the jersey is in the rafters. It was a hell of a go. At the end of the night. It was, let me so a little little funny aside. So I had on my newly minted gold chain that I'm wearing. I had to check it because I thought I was hanging over
the dolets so bad that cross. I thought it was in the throw of and I was like, I had to do one of these. I had to go. I was like, all right, it's good, Oh my goodness. So all right, before we we're gonna have DC join us here in a couple of minutes, before we get into that, I just want to bring up something that h kind of caught me off guard. Saturday morning. Now, I had no idea what it was from until later in the week,
and it was a tweet you put out. I'm just putting it up on the screen here if you don't mind. It says it was never pretty enough slash talented enough. I heard it week in and week out, but I still kept going because I loved what I did. It hurt and I cried a lot, but I learned to accept that not everyone will like me, and that's okay. Don't let the hate shadow all the love. And you tag Lana WWE. So I had no clue what this
was about until much much later in the conversation. But I know just from knowing you and knowing your you know your history and your career that there has been stuff said in sheets and newsletters and websites over the years about you when you were a performer, and things that people speculated you might have been doing or had
possibly some sort of disorders. So you kind of stepped up and let somebody like Lana, who's going through I guess a tumultuous time, that it's happened before in the business, and you have to persevere. And I just thought it was great to see the outpouring of love by the fans and your followers and everybody that they just showed you that what you did, all those crying and all the hurt and everything was worth it because they loved
what you did. Yeah. And I didn't tweet it to you know, get people to see how great I was. That wasn't the point. The point was just, you know, to reach out to a woman that I don't even know, I've never met. I've seen her obviously, I've seen her work. She works hard, She's a beautiful girl. And to say the clip that I saw, they did some kind of retrospects on the WWE network on her. Yeah, they did
it a special about her. Okay, and I see this clip of her just sitting there crying, and all the tweets that were being you know, published, that she sucks's this, she's that. I don't know what the sheet writers have said about her, because I don't read the sheets. I think they're full of shit. But for me, you know, back then, I was in love with wrestling. I ate it, I dreamt about it, I breathed it. It was my everything.
I didn't have, like my family back then. I was in my early twenties and I just loved what I did, and week in and week out, Paul Hayman said it best. He said, there could be one hundred people who love you, there's always that one guy that's going to be critical
and you have to just zone them out. And I could never do that because even though one hundred people might have loved me, that one negative remo stood out in my head and it was always the same couple guys, because we didn't have social media back then, so I didn't, you know, I didn't have to endure the hate through
tweets and stuff. There was sheet there was sheet writers, and once in a while you read on a message board you get fans saying you're this year that you know, but you know, I loved it so much, and it just it brought me back like twenty years ago. It made me think about what I went through, and I just wanted her to know that she's not the only girl that had to endure this. She won't be the first,
she won't be the last. But if you love what you do, you have to push all that hate aside and realize there are people who love you, and there are people who respect you, and if you love what you're doing, you have to keep doing it because in the end, you just have to please yourself, right, And it took me a long time to learn that because I wanted to please everybody. I'm a people pleaser. One person doesn't like me, I focus on that one person. You have to like me. I will make you love me.
Can't do that, you know what I mean. So again, it took me a while, but I just wanted to reach out. I don't know if she's ever seen it. She never respond in it, and it's fine, but I just, you know, I wanted to send some love and light her way. So no, it was. It was great, and like I said, the response was unbelievable. Yeah. I was even seeing retweets with quoted tweets for days after the tweet because I think people were just finding it. But just to provide a little bit of context on her story.
From what I understand, she was never hired to be a wrestler. She was hired to be a valet. She was never supposed to be in the ring. She was supposed to be the mouthpiece for Russev when she was doing the Russian character, which they never should have taken off of her because she hit it out of the park and brought to life the manager again by being the ravishing Russian and being this you know, uh Jeete
Nielsen from Rocky four to Russev. Yes, when they decided to start putting her in the ring, what is all? She would hear, she sucks, she's terrible, she's not talented, she's not athletics, she shouldn't be in the ring. She why are they doing this? Of course WW is pushing you know, blonde with you know what, and she's gonna be just a typical Vince McMahon WWE girl now and
blah blah blah. But as this would go on, she would attain success and they'd knock her down and she got punished because during the Russev Lana breakup they announced they got engaged. I've since heard that that was actually leaked by the office or they were told to leak it by the office, and Russev, who's now no longer with the company, basically shoots on them every fricking week. And because of that, she is getting put through tables
every week. They're making her embarrassing, and I think it's just coincidentally they decided to do this special about her, because if I bet you a Vince knew they were doing that and coinciding it with all the stuff and storyline, they would have put the kaibash on the special because they would not paint themselves in the negative light that they're making this girl go through all this. Yeah, well
I saw, you know, I tweets were coming up. I guess because I had tweeted and I saw something that Brandy Rhodes tweeted, So like, there is an open door for her if she can ever get out of her contract. I don't know when her contract expires, but aw's ready for her to work there. No, absolutely, so her career will not be over. I always say, wwe isn't the you know, do all end all be all whatever? No, none at all. There are greener pastures besides that company.
Your career will not be over, So she does have other options. It's just it makes me sick to my stomach that women are judged the way they're judged in this sport right by men who I mean, honest to God, look at some of these men that are judging these girls. Yeah. I don't mean to be rude, but let's call a spade a spade here. They're they're horrible, none of them looking like the Chad star basically, is that what you're trying to say? Okay, all right, that's what I thought
you were going with. None of them more as good looking as you, Chad? Is that what you want me to say? Time stamp fifteen minutes, twenty seven seconds. I just think and be sure to play that clip over now. Oh, I'm going to find a way. But you know what I mean, You know, just people are just full of hate, and this girl's working hard. I worked hard. Everybody in
the business works hard. And to just have people just keep putting you down and trying to knock you down and basically take you out, it's just it's disgusting to me. So I just wanted to just let her know he'd been great. Yeah, And to everybody who tweeted at me, thank you so much. You made me. All of you made me smile. I did not read one negative comment geared towards me, which was super nice and made me feel really good about myself and made me happy. So
thank you all. Where was this guy's tweet here, I am. I don't know if he tweeted me. I think you might have missed it. Can you say something about DC and how he looks? Oh my only audio? So now yeah, he said, No, how are you, buddy? I'm great? How are you guys? We're doing well, awesome, are gearing up for this great show that you have planned for us? Yeah? Well, first of all, in this thankful time of year, I'm thankful to be back here with you guys once again.
Thank you for having me. We're thankful for you, sir. Yeah, that schedule really got away quickly. I mean it, every single week it was conflict after conflict and this and that and YadA, YadA YadA. So we had a book, this one in advance big time. Even with busy man. Yeah, even with this quarantine going on. It just seems like these months fly past, though, right, I mean, yeah, we're talking Christmas already. I know. Are you decorated? I am? Oh yeah, I decorated outside two weeks ago. I put
my lights up there. You go. It's never too early for Christmas, is it? That's right now? I don't think so well. I think, like you know, July, June, August, that might be a little light that's a little early, though not. According to Mick Foley, you know something that's funny. I real quick. I purchased these lights that are on wire and they're solar, and they they're bend and you know,
they're flexible and all this stuff. And we wrap them around our bushes and they're around like a post and stuff. And I'm like, can I just leave them up all your round because if I turn off the switch, you can't see them that bad. No, a lot of people do. I think there's actually like a name for that, for people that leave their Christmas lights up all year world. You can't see these. They're so tiny. They're like led I think, in their solar yard and you can't you
can't even see them on the pole. It's not like they have bulbs bols. Well, nobody would have ever known, but you just said it on the most popular podcast in the world right now, so now everybody everybody knows. I just wanted to get approval and make sure it was I like big balls and I cannot lie. Well, speaking speaking of balls, we'll have to do our mandscaped commercial later. Yes, yes, we'll do that. Yes, we'll do that before we say goodbye. Okay, of course, all right,
so what are we doing today? DC? So you know, wwe just finish up with the Survivor series. It's that time of year, so I wanted to continue that theme here today, except a little bit more extreme. So instead of uh row versus SmackDown, we're gonna do the original e c W against the fake e C dub as you would say, WWE version like this extreme Survivors series graphic. But I'm a traditionalist, so I gotta SIW that one. Okay, Well I wanted yeah, so wait before we get started
with a Survivor series. So this past weekend, thirty years of the undertake or goes back to nineteen ninety my heyday of Cerviber series is the first like five that those are the ones I can't get enough. And I even put it on last night just to hear the intro. Did you ever hear the intros done by Vince McMann
Francine for the Survivor series. He used to do these epic, like four minute like introductions to the show where he would bring up every great It would be a graphic of every guy on every team and he would be like calling their name out so he'd be like, it's the Ultimate Warrior against Ted Dabyassi it's the ultimate maniacs against a million dollar team, and you go through the whole entire roster, every guy who's on the show. It
is so worth watching. If you haven't seen it before, you haven't seen it in twenty five years every year. Nineteen eighty nine is my go to one. It is. It is so that I saw the Survivor series, Love Love, Love Love. Did you watch it this weekend? Hell no, No, I didn't so much did. I went back and watched the clip because I saw my buddy Glenn was on there. But that's about it. Okay. But like everything else, WWE has ruined that pay per view. It's not what it
used to be. I don't think I'll tell you the one funny thing. So Undertaker retires, Okay, this whole the whole pay per view is to build up to the Undertaker retiring for the last time. He's leaving. This is it in front of no fans, mind you. So they go, what do they do? They do the classic Let's bring back everybody from the Undertaker's history into the ring, so we get the godwins or back. Savvio Vega is back, the Godfather, Kevin Nash, the Big Show, McK foley, Triple Ah, Sewan, Michaels.
They literally going down the list of guys tied to the and then they and Cain is the only one comes out in full gimmick, right, whole thing, the fire, the mask, everything. They they so all the guys make their entrance, they fade to black and when they come back, all these guys are gone. So everybody got a payday to show up, stand in the ring and leave. Never even had to be there. When the undertaker came out, they were gone. They were ushered out of the ring.
Do you like when they do stuff like that, Chad, when they bring all those people back. Yeah. I like when they shake the guy's hand when they're in the ring and they pat him on the back and say, wow, maybe COVID maybe he They were standing next to each other, Oh, I don't know. They were hugging, literally hugging, you know, too sweet. You know what's funny you mentioned that because Mick Foley put a tweet out and about you know,
stay home for Thanksgiving, don't go see your loved ones. Yes, hypocrite. The amount of of hate that the people were given. Mick, I was just like wow, Like yeah, if you've read the comments on that. They were just like, oh, but it was okay for you to be in a ring with eighty people and no mask, And I was like, wow, is that what happened? I may have I may have pointed it out to an old friend of his, just for s and g's all right, sorry interrupt, So let's
get go with the Dream Survivor series. All right, So here's how I work, Francine. You will pick first. So what I'll do is I'll give you two names. You'll pick one of those names to put on your team. The other name will not reappear again. So once you do not take them, that's it. They're out. So the pressure, that's it, all right, So let's let's start with this one. Brian Lee or Gary Wolf Well, geez, I love both men dearly. I know I tried to do that. I'm
gonna have to go with the Bulldozer. Okay, Brian Lee, I mean he was the ultimate man. Now was he in the Triple Thread at all when you were managing him? Or it was right after? Okay, Now he was in there. He was one of our found He was a he was like a passing by member of the Triple Threads there for a while that it wasn't as long as I think people remember it being, but it was he was it was he was out of the group. He
was one of the most fun guys ever. I love Brian Lee and I have no idea where he is right now, but I don't think anybody does. He's I'd have never seen him pop up at a convention ever. Yeah, me either. He's disappeared. Although I did see a picture of Undertaker doing Brian Lee's makeup for when he was the Fake Taker, which I thought was pretty cool. But yeah, I'll go with Brian Lee, although I love Gary to death. All Right, Brian Lee the first one off the board.
All right, Chad's are you ready? Oh all right, you have the choice of either the Miz or Jack Swagger. Swagger Swagger. I thought you were going to say the Zombie. Well that would be your side, maybe, Oh that's my side, that's my sorry. Yes, No, I absolutely go Swagger only because uh swagger, uh, if you want to go in the context of the new ECWS ECW Champion. Yeah, you know, Francine, I wanted to ask you, did you I know you
were only there for a year. But did you attend any of the pay per views like uh, the Survivor series or Royal Rumble when you were there? No, no, just the one night Stand. Okay. Now, if I wasn't both, I didn't. They didn't have you by the Royal Rumble cousin with the numbers in it. I know, I was hoping i'd i'd get a call, but I never did. So I had to go to Rall and smack Down every week, but I didn't get to go to uh pay per views, which was fine with me. All right,
next one for you, Francine. We had either Lance Storm or Chris Candido. No brainer Candido, Okay, I thought that might have been a little tougher for you. Actually, I love Lance, don't get me wrong, but Chris, Chris is just everything. So with Cando you got. Now you need some funny haha in the match, and uh that's what Chris is, technical but hilarious. All right, Chad, you have Mark Henry or a test Oh uh oh, that's a
that's a toughie. Let me see. Now, I know Mark Henry had a pretty dominant e c W uh and was e c W champion as well, and I set that precedence by taking uh Jack Swagger, But I gotta go with Tests. Just think of Test is an all time underrated favorite of mine. And you gotta have a little chemistry on these two teams, right, you can't just did you? Did you get to know Tests at all? Me? Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah, we we He was in the locker room with me. I was supposed to be paired with him.
Oh that's right. Uh huh, that's right. And I think that would have been phenomenal. But for whatever reason it didn't happen. Well, he had issues throughout his time, and he was a stop and go guy. Every time they brought him back, they pushed him like crave. And that side of that first one that he had where he came out of nowhere was you know, I'm believing that. You know why they called him test? No, well, it might have something to do with that. Okay, he had
to be tested a few times. I think when he was putting inside of it might have had something to do with that. Yeah, oh oh oh, I got you. Look at you with all the backstage knowledge and I was there and I don't even know what's going on. Student of the Game, Franny. For a reason, all right, next one, Chris Jericho or Eddie Guerrero. Oh wow, that's a toss up hunt. That's a really hard one. Uh oh, that's a hard one. Well we're thinking about that. What
do you guys think about Jericho? Now? I know you don't watch much, but uh, you know you payettes. Yeah, yeah, I'm a big fan of the vignettes. I don't watch the wrestling part, but I'm always sent the vignettes and I just love they're hilarious. You don't think he's sticking around too long? No, no, well you can get it. He's over. Why why not? Look at Ric Flair. I was just gonna say that. I mean, look at Terry fongk. Yeah. People, if people love you, you can stay until you're one hundred.
It doesn't matter. And Chris has it right. So that style, that's what he reinvents himself. What they did with the Undertaker, with the going away party. Wouldn't you much rather see him and you don't know, but have one last match and really being character and go out that way? Then you know, No, it looked like a high school reunion. No, because he saw his last match. It was not very good. What I think would be funny. Is they retired the Undertaker.
That's what they keep saying. They retired the Undertaker. So I'm wondering if mean Mark gets to pop back on the screen. Now. Yeah, they needed a street fight, they needed some sort of you know, hey, don't forget, I'm coming with one guy you didn't really know was coming. It's me and Mark and he comes down with the motorcycle and the bandana and all that. Like, I could see that being something that he goes away with the fans that way, something instead of the Undertaker. Hey, you
should be a writer for WWE. There, Chadster, look again, I was there for a reason. Oh okay, I oh geez god, Eddie was so so talented. But I'm gonna go with Christian Erico. Yeah, ok yeah, it's that team perfectly. Come on, you mean Candido and then the Bulldozer. So far so we got speed, skill and strength on your team and a lot of agility. I think, Oh absolutely yeah. I think now are we getting them in their era? So? Is she getting ninety is she getting ninety five? Jericho? Yes,
lion Art, I'm getting lion Art. That's where you're picking them. Yep. When they were there Okay, so you're getting ninety six Bulldozer, ninety five Jericho, ninety seven, ninety eight Candido. That's pretty it's pretty damn good. Yeah, it's pretty good. And then at the end we'll hopefully we'll put these teams up on Twitter somewhere and maybe have the fans vote who they think is the better team. You know, we can do that. I can tell you who I'm voting for.
All all right, Well here's your next one, Chad. You got Christian or see them Punk? I mean I'd go with Punk obviously, you know Christian. I am always a fan of Christian too, But I don't know Punk, especially in that era. You know, if there was anybody in that ECW realm, that new breed quote unquote that could have been in your ECW, I feel like Punk might have been at the top of that list. Would you agree. I think Punk would have fit in perfectly. I really do.
I love that. I'm sorry, I go ahead. The straight edge kind of thing was so different than our locker room well it was, but you know, I'll tell you what those early ROH shows in two thousand and two, two thousand and three, if any show had a like the crowd wise had an ECW vibe. It was the Ring of honor shows, even though they had a different style of competition, and you could see, Okay, I would pluck you know, Homicide out, I'd put him in ECW.
I'd pluck Punk out. And that's why Punk works so well with Karene you know, and DJ, because you can see he could he could work, and that straighten the straight edge guy and Natty he'd been the literal and most aided guy history of wrestling. He would have been right to censor before right the sensor and go. Are you guys surprised that he hasn't come back somewhere as of yet, that he's not in the ring somewhere, I'm impressed. I'm impressed that he hasn't because this business always sucks
you back in now. Granted, he did do a little I don't know if he's still doing it, but he did do a little stint for the network on air now, so the show got canceled. Okay, uh so he never count him out. But he's doing something with his life. I don't know what it is, but I'm sure he's happy with it. So if you can find your niche
then it's all good. He got the biggest fuck you in the history of the company because he got to come back and make a shitload of money to literally sit in a chair and and talk as himself on a on a show that literally nobody watched, and he got to he basically's big big f you to the company. You're gonna pay me. I'm not gonna wrestle, and I'm not gonna do anything else for except be on this show that you know, one hundred and twenty five thousand
people watched. And plus how do you know, how's his body? Maybe he's at where he's beat up and he feels like it's not worth it. You know, a lot of us feel that way towards the end. And who's he at to work? With No offense to the guys in the locker room now, but I just feel like there's not many guys that had that kind of skill to work maybe. I mean, you want to see him against the seth Rollins or a Roman rate. I mean, it
just doesn't jump off the page. You know, I'm thinking of him and Sena or him and Daniel Bryan, and it's those guys aj styles. It's all happened already, So I think you're right. Maybe it's maybe it's that I just thought maybe him going to ae W. Also because they obviously had a lot of money to throw around, and who doesn't want to want a lot of money? They he wanted, No, he wanted a ton of money.
And then they said, hm hmm interesting. Yeah, all right, you're back up, Francine, you're ready, I'm ready, Freddy, all right, new Jack or Sabo? Wow? Uh Jesus well, I don't think uh k new Jack would be one to wait for his turn, and I don't know if there's room for a trash can full of weapons. I'm gonna go with all right, yeah, definitely extreme. Oh, totally all right. You have Chad, Rob van Dam or Tommy Dreamer. Yeah,
I was I had to switch that up. I wasn't giving I'm going to take hands down Rob van Dam Wow, the fake e c W. Tommy big guy. I want to, I mean, need to get a little run there again. You don't want someone to drink pistol on camera for you. No, he had a little Yeah, he had a little too much of the urinal cakes and the spit tobacco and all that. They did redeem a little bit at the end, and they gave a little bit of a stronger exit,
but uh, are that cut? He was the cornerstone of that new e c W because he was so hot at the time, and you know, it's a shame, it's a shame in Saboo got pulled over that in Ohio because what could have been now. But that didn't affect him that much. It didn't affect him, but it cut his original run short. That they you know, they put the belts on him. They put both belts on him. That company. When I say that company, I mean the fake ec dump. It was doomed from the start. It
didn't matter that Rob was pulled over. Shit was going to hit the fan and everything was going to fall apart regardless. So he moved on the roll. He became mister Monday Night or whatever the hell his gimmick was, and he was fine. Well, so he had both belts. He had the ECW title and the w w E championship, so he was going to go back and forth between both shows. But that doesn't care right right, But that
next night I was at that show in Philly. Literally Big Show beats him in like four minutes and that's the end of the ECW title run of Rob Van Dam and then that I believe, either that Sunday or that Monday, they take the world title right off of him and he was gone for sixty days. And what could have been with that original run, the back and forth, you know, the interest, Maybe they bring those viewership over to you guys from Monday to Tuesday. Don't say us guys.
I was going by then we're there July? It was that was July. Oh, No, I wasn't. No, you were there, you were definitely there was. I was there, but I was she was at home. That was that phi Oh. I was there at the arena. No, this was the one at the Kovia Center in Philly. It was. This is why it was one of my favorite shows of that era. It was just e c W. So it was so we got dream versus c W. Anderson Baguley is like an intween between the show and the Dark Matches,
and it was like this was it was full. The arena wasn't anywhere near full. It was like, I don't know the basically the first two sessions we were filled, but it was just a good show. And then Rob man Dam gets to be with the choke slam for four minutes, and then there was yeah, well doesn't it baffle you why they just couldn't take that. You own the e c W rights, Now, why you just didn't take it and let it be e c W because
they wanted to bury it from the get go. Okay, So to me, it was a big waste of money to give us a big fu That's the way I look at it. They never gave any Ninety percent of the roster didn't get a chance because we were all originals, and they he just didn't care. He didn't care. He's a billionaire who just has money to burn and didn't care.
That's the way I look I could be one hundred percent wrong, but when your talent and you're literally going to the office and telling them that you want to work and you're under contract and you're there and they don't let you do anything, that just tells me that they do not give a crap about you, just because it was a huge success. So you have something that's been tried already, so it's not like you're starting something new. You know something can be successful and you have it,
why not use it? If they wanted it? To be successful. Then what I was told before I signed my contract would have came into play. You're doing everything you did for Paul. You're going to be a mouthpiece for someone. You're going to be a manager. You're going to I got to be a math maybe a handful of times. And that was it. And it was just stupid bikini contest, which I hate it, and just don't. We don't want you working. You know, you offered to bump, you offered
to take finishers. We don't do that. Here, come, what do you do here? What am I here for? Just ridiculous? What about that little kid we saw in the front row of the bikini contest that we watched from White Plains? Remember with you, Kelly, Kelly, that little kid with that child? What they made me do? Oh my god, he loves he loves the news. He remembers it fondly. I could be his mother, for God's sake, I can't. That would be a great guest for the show, if you could
find him. Yeah, who knows where that traumatized in some kind of therapy right now? But whatever, All right, well, speaking of a few traumatized people, your last choice you have of either the Sandman or Terry Funk Wow, God, both crazy, both great entertainers, both charismatic. I'm gonna have to go with Sandman only because he has a better entrance than Terry, that's true, and he knows how to swing. That came. But I love me some Terry, but Terry
back then, Terry was old. Now he's like, like, what year are we in? Ninety six? Whatever? He was old then, Yeah, what should we give you? Let's give you, Let's give you the champion, Let's give you ninety seven Terry when he won the belt. I still don't think people love Sandman's entrance, and I think that just pops the place huge. So yeah, I'm gonna have to go with sand What
about what about desperadoper Desperado made me very depressed. I didn't like that great song, No, I don't like it, And to come to the ring to that, I was always like that video package they played one of the it was late ninety six. Uh huh. The Desperado video package was one of the best they ever put together. It was amazing, great package, bad song, don't you jaw the Queen? And Damon's like it and there's all there's an even sadder version when the Eagles reunited Hell Freezes
Over ninety mid nineties. Ooh, it's tough. Don't get me started with some people's entrance music. I just can't. We all know that I hated Dreamers music. Shane's music was kind of like I want to go to sleep. I need that hurt me, that hurt, that hurt, literally, that hurt the mark inside of me. I mean it fit, but I need I need bubbly, upbeat stuff, you know, I remember, Oh God, I love that song. All right, who do I got? You got one? You have a big show or your guy Kine? Oh I'm taking the
big red machine. Who will now just choke slam the whole both sides and walk away. Now. I am very disappointed that Kevin Thorn did not get a nod onto because he will be running in and taking out CM punk at some point during this match. I almost put him on, but you know, this was Cain Caine's going over. Caine was the best and and that that was probably his One of his strongest runs in the company was when they put him in ECW. He just straight every
He beat Chumbo Barrero in like eight seconds. But the Big Show had a pretty good run there too, right and think he did. He definitely did. He did, but he ain't no mayor of Knox County. That's time I check though. That is very true. All right. So the last, the last part of this, this challenge, though, is now, who would you pick? They each had captains, right, they always the captain of the team. Who would you pick as your captain? I don't even know. I don't even remember.
Your team is? Your team is the Sandman, Brian Lee, Chris Candido and Chris Jericho and sa oh god, oh all right, I know who would be? So at this point I'm going with experience. I'm gonna go with well, a captain needs to speak two right, the backstage promo, This is the first guy who's gonna talk here. Here's what I was gonna say. I was gonna pick Saboo, but he never spoke back then, he wasn't a talker. Oh, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna put my man over
and I'm gonna go with Chris Candido. That's who I was gonna pick for you. That's that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. The only other choice I would think was Sandman because of his persona. I think Chris. He'd been wrestling since he was like four, so I think he had experience back then. And great promo guy too. Yeah, I'll say Chris Chad. I'm gonna pick CM Punk okay, because there's
your mouthpiece again. I'm thinking of the backstage promo. Yeah, and before everybody makes their entrance that the motivator and the guy who's stirring the pot is going to be the cynical CM Punk will say something probably derogatory about each guy on his team and then work its way into saying something bad about his opponents. So I'm gonna go with with cmpunk as team captain. Well Punk and Candido starting it off too. How about that? Pretty good?
Be a great match for sure? Yeah? Yeah, interesting. I really I could bring up my Vince intro right now. It's so awesome. The WWF Survivor series, the Thanksgiving Night tradition. You can take two. I'm not doing this, okay. So you want the fans to vote on who's gonna win who Let's see expert book and analysis on what we picked. Where who do you think is win this one? Oh? Boy? Who do I think would win? Who would you vote for? Who are you going to vote for? Who would I
vote for? I would actually probably vote for Chad's team. Oh really, how dare you be honest with you? I was voting for her team really until you gave me Kine there at the end, I was voting for for Francine's team. Wow. Yeah, I would have to. I would have to go with Chad's team actually to win this battle. Who are my sole survivors? I think it would be, uh, you'd have three people left Caine, Rob Band, Damn and
see him Punk, Oh damn three. Wow. See. I'm gonna probably say if I was going to to to pick something myself, I'd probably have it be one or two. I'd probably have it be Punk or rv D as the one, and then those two as the two if I was to pick that. But I don't know. I think, what are you gonna come down to rv D and Saboo and you stare down at the end. O that would be a good one, and then a turnable Kane would probably turn on both of them and walk out
of Okay. First of all, Caine and Brian Lee are probably gonna get double counted out on the outside, so they're they're are already out of it, you know. I mean it's gonna be some sort of sa or Sadman's getting dqed for bringing the cane in. I mean, come on, well, you got to use Survive Survivors still in the crowd. He's got an intro. It's you know, don't take a
while Survivor series logic. Is this a roll up? Is neutralizing and as bad as your finish okay, in a Survivor Series match, it all takes a clothesline and you're one, two three. You'll see what the fans have to say. Yeah, so DC, Yeah, you make a little poll yep, I'll retweet it, chat and retweet it, and we'll see how many votes we get and we'll tell you the results. I can't wait. It's gonna be exciting. Now bring it to the table here. We had another idea too, for
a Patreon extra game. But with our lineup we have with our our friends coming on this week, what let's let's run through that one. If you pull that up the Christmas idea, Yeah, bring it, bring, bring some of that to the table before we get to Manscaped and the wrap up. Let me pull that up quick, and what you've been up to since we last had your one. I've been up to, you know, still going strong with over the guardrail. I was saying, do that after I thought as I was pulling it up, you wanted me
to fill some time. No, absolutely, that the whole point. That's why I said landscape. Read to talk about a tipstart mask. But before we do, let's let's let's look at your Christmas game. All right, So we spoke about Christmas in the beginning, and Chad has this tree up behind him. So, Queen, some of your favorites of Christmas present? Is it better to give or to receive? It is better to give now, I want you to be honest. Though it's better to give. You wouldn't rather receive presents? Okay.
I like to see. I like to see, especially with my kids. I like to see the joy in people's faces when I give them presents, right shopping, Yeah, but you don't mind getting one every now? I don't mind getting them. No. I like gifts, don't get me wrong, but I love to see happiness through other people. All right. In the in the Queen's household, real or fake tree? I have two trees and they are both fake both fake, both fake. Oh wow, yeah, one is pretty lit and
the other one. I do everything. They're up and running and ready to go. I don't like I don't like real trees. I don't like the smell. I don't like the needles everywhere. Uh, and I don't like going to get one because it's cold. So I just use the same trees every year. We always had two growing up also, but one was real and one was fake. We did we did each each one. Yeah, all right, So you're
decorating the tree white or colored lights. So my main tree is all white lights with red accents and silver so red and silver balls and points, set of pieces and a star that is silver white lights. My other tree, how however, is the pre lit tree, and that has multicolored lights and white lights. So it depends on what setting you put it on. So covered, Yeah, some days you could do both. Some days if you just want white, some days you can do multi. Just depends how I'm feeling,
you know what I mean. Now, do you do all the decorating or the kids in the hubby helps or is this everybody chips in? Yeah, everybody chips and we make it fun. We put on I think it's called Sounds of the Season on the cable. We put that real loud and we just have Christmas music blasting and we just take out all the boxes and the kid's help and it's fun. Yeah. Yeah. My oldest is thirteen now. So the big event is he gets to go up on the roof to decorate. So he can't wait to
climb up that ladder and get on the roof. Yeah. This year we did the off the gutter as you hang, you know, like the icicle lights or whatever. The end of that hangs like. No, unfortunately I don't have that. Not a fan of the blow ups either. What about you guys? Can't stay My main piece outside is a manger. Okay, we have a spotlight on the manger and then we
have you know, Christmas things. But that's my favorite because the reason for the season is Jesus in my opinion, So you are correct, we have to put on We have to put him first and foremost. All right. So the last question I have is the Queen of Extreme a regifter after Christmas. I'm not gonna lie. I have regifted. The worst part is you when you go to regift, it's like sometimes you forget who gave you? What am I giving this back to the person who gave it
to me? I haven't done it often, but I have done it. I have to be honest. We used to have a shelf in my house. Actually we haven't. It hasn't been full lately. We'd keep all those gifts on a on a shelf somewhere, you know, just ready to hand out at any time. It's very easy when your wife's a teacher for that to be the case. She would get a ton of gifts and we would put them to side and we'd be like, all right, that's for this person, that's for that person. This one now,
we'll keep this one. All these glasses, yeah, that'll be good for Gradma over here, you know glass. Yeah. So nothing goes to waste. I mean, why if it's not open and not used, then you can't use it. Why not regift it? My trash is your treasure, not going to trash. But you know what I mean. You could put your trash on eBay if you wanted to. Probably you could probably get a couple of bucks for it. I meant to send you this the other day, the dresses that went in Rob's auction with you they're on
eBay already. I signed them two people. I saw two of them on eBay. It was the screen out of you wearing it at the what do you call? Yeah? Yeah, Hey, I don't care. I got oh. No, I know that they can do whatever they want with it, but I thought that was funny. I was like, damn. I was like, that's that probably was barely out of the package before you know what. The funny part is, they'll probably won't
sell so different not coming from you. No, it's a waste of why would you you think you're going to get more. He's not going to get more, but if he does, god bless him. But I got what I wanted, so I'm good. Those were great shows. Do you watch I watched I watched that, yep, I watched the ones with Dreamer. I've seen the Sandman one. Those are there's
a lot of them out there right now. But I tell you what, it's the best time I've I've had virtually, And I'm just I'm a crazy, silly person, and everybody thinks I'm drunk during these shows. I am not drunk because I have to drive there. I just want to make it fun for people, and I want people to stay tuned in. So that's you know, my personality is just very outgoing. Well with those shows, you got a good combo. It's almost like watching a podcast or a
shoot interviewer something like that, you know. And Rob even leaned over and he said, oh my god, I've known you for so many years. He said, I never knew you were this al going. And I'm like brook me all the time. I will make this fun, you know. So it's a lot of fun. My throat was so sore when I left from all the singing that I did. I sang for hours and the people and I don't sing well, I don't think, but people wanted to hear me sing. I came home and my my throat was
super sore. But it was so fun. So glad you enjoyed yourself, Yes, very much. You get look check this out. So there is I saw sunny the other day. I thought this was interesting. Right, So here's the original shirt from ecw Right, your shirt, which in itself is a collector's item. You're not on this shirt. They all these other great you need to be on the shirt. My signature is not on there. It's Taz Shane bill O Fonso RB and I think this is Mikey because I
see a sad face at the bottom. But isn't that isn't that something else? I'm like, man, like, they have this this classic shirt, but you're not signed on it. I was like, that is that's unbelievable? Yeah, I don't. I don't know. Well, for one hundred and ninety dollars or best offer you could have it, I should buy it back and put my signature and resell it. Maybe I'll get five hundred dollars. Who knows. I was, Yes,
I was. I was searching for a very specific item and I saw these great Francine items on eBay the other day. It's a fun, little, fun little search sometimes. So all right, well let's get into the part of the Bill Payne of eyes up here, and let's talk about manscaped jingle balls to the walls. Fella, listen on trip you are a thing. Pass it's the Europe and get yourself the g of shaving this hotiday scene. And I'm talking about the landscape per package A three point zero.
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So gress would that be? So would that be if you found that out? Would that be a huge like turn off to hear that? I mean the balls to the face? Come on, I mean, people say another thing to the mouth, and this is balls to the faces? Are your balls nice? They are doing fantastic? Thank you? I mean I guess they could always do a little better. So maybe I'll try out this manscaping package and you know,
maybe it will be in my stocking. Maybe you should tell your wife because twenty percent off with code Francine. I mean, you can't get back en Frey shipping. You can't get better than that, you know. Now, it's the It's the not only could it fit in your stocking, it's the perfect package three point zero, helping sweaty and stinky balls with the crop reviver. The products. Not only do they smell good, but the manly scent is attractive and will help set the mood if you know what
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You get free shipping and twenty percent off your order. What it's hill. I think that is a perfect gift for the holiday season. And if you want to be even safer with your balls that you want to be with your face, how about let's use a little tip jar mask action. Go to tipjarmask dot com. As the world begins to go kind of backwards in some places, the people who work in the restaurants and the bars all across this great land and all the cities across
America losing some work. Now having as many people come in, Tip jar mask gives three percent of their needs to the displaced workers. And we're very proud supporters of them. You know, we don't have a promo code for them. We're just we're giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're just going to help out in time of need. Because Francine wears it when she goes out, I mean, it's a great it's a great mask, and we can definitely give it our seal of approval. They are so comfortable,
they are lightweight, they are durable. They come in a sealed package, so you know yours is sanitary and brand new. I have mine, I have one for my husband, I have my kids. We all wear them. We love them, and like Chad said, it's giving back to the communities that are suffering right now. So it's a great, great mask to wear in these times. And I think that y'all should go to tip jarmask dot com and order
yours right now. Do it right now, right now. As Ben Steelers said in the remake of Starsky and Hutch, do it and you know it's the Honestly, this would make a nice little stocking stuffer. Yes it would, because times, like you said, times are going backwards. We are still social distancing. We still have to wear masks. God knows how long we have to wear them for. This will fit perfectly in a stocking. So I suggest you go to tip your mask dot com and fill those stockings up.
My town actually is considered a hot spot right now. Oh geez. Yeah, so you need your your tip your mask dot com. Yeah, you need it in your life. Okay, Now you can tell us all about the podcast going on. And this is even pre plugs. This is just your time to talk about the Over the Guardrail podcast. Yeah, over the Guardrail has extreme success. We've been doing fantastic
with it. If I could run down just a list of some of the guests Tito Santana, Austin Idol, James Ellsworth, Saboo, Jimmy Valliant, Bill Alfon was there, and of course Hollywood from Glow, which the Queen of Extreme herself helped me out with. Yeah. So we're having a great time with it right now. If you haven't seen it, go to over the Guardrail channel on YouTube. Subscribe, like watch the videos.
That's the biggest thing. I want people to watch it because you know, half the reason we do these things is you know, to get the content out there for everybody else to enjoy, you know, not just for us. Who is your co host? Yes, Christina. She has been a new addition to the show and she's been great and she keeps up on the new product. So that was one of one of the reasons she came on.
We may be changing the format a little bit and you know, not just doing straight guest interviews, but you know, bringing up some topics new old and conversating about that. So, yeah, she's been a great addition. I appreciate that too. I knew because I saw her and I said, olho, what
is this? Yeah? Nice? Yeah, and it's been good for me too, because you know, you come up with a lot of these ideas, and when you're doing a show all on your own like that, you have nobody to bounce it off of or say, hey, do you think this is good? And it gives it a nice change of pace, not just me on there blabbing away. Awesome, And where can people find you? On social media? I can be found parts of a whole thirty three that's both Twitter and on Instagram. And if you look me
up on Facebook. Over the guardrail is all over the place. Oh it's hot. Yeah, over the place. I can't even sign in without seeing the head pop up. Jeez. All. Right, before we say goodbye, so fan appreciation for another week, we're gonna have a couple more of our friends from the Patroon family. Come on, I will reveal the watch along. Okay, so this is one we were going to do a few weeks ago, but we did ASMR instead. Okay, well, yeah, guess and I have We're gonna we're gonna do two things.
We're gonna I'm gonna bring two clips up for us to listen to. That's a big key. But then we're gonna talk over the rest of it. I'm making you listen to it, so you know it has to be this damn Man returns to the East. W we have to hear it. Okay, we have to hear it. There's one part we have to hear it. If you if you have to turn the sound down. I I would implore you too, because your ears are gonna hurt. I was there, Oh, yes you were. I was there. Yes. Okay,
So that's what we're gonna watch this week. And before I tell you where I am, I'd like to show you this picture I just saw on eBay as I was closing out my screen speaking at Christmas. Speaking at Christmas, I love that shirt that Tommy Dreamers wearing. That is about the tightest shirt and I have to go buy one. There's a fun fact about that shirt. He they asked for just me. They didn't want Tommy on the cover.
I made them put Tommy on the cover with me, and he didn't want to be on the cover because he's like, well they don't want me, I'm not doing it. I was like, just be on the cover. I thought it would be cute, and so we did that. But initially it was just supposed to be me. You're dreaming of an extreme Christmas. Yeah, I guess so. I remember that too. And I remember that outfit that I wore was see through and I had nothing to cover my nipples with and I found I think I found red
paper like stuck them all my nipples. I was like, oh my god, what do I do? His his shirt? His shirt? I'm sorry, his shirt might be tighter that you're wearing. Let's hear the fun fact. No, that was a fun fact. Oh that was a fun fact. Yeah, No, that shirt is that is if that was if you told me from about above his bicep to his shoulder was painted on him, I would believe, because that shirt is that tight. I think he did that to make his arms look like totally. I love it. I think
that's a great style. That was the style. I mean, what year was that eight that's January two thousand. It's very January. So that's taken then in ninety nine. Very ninety nine. God, I love ninety nine. I wish I could go back to ninety nine. I don't remember ninety nine. But anyway, all right, Well, if you want to follow me, it's at Chad E and B. You want to go to my website ibexclusives dot Com just announced a signing
in January with the Olympic gold medalist Kurt Angle. Now, will you be nice to him and maybe he'll come on the show sometimes? I will absolutely, Well, I see, I worked into Queen of Extreme. I already was looking ahead of the time, and I worked into the contract a interview and I was k fabed and said he still works for WWE. He was public released in August. I just said, okay, so I'll talk to him in person and I'll see if I Yeah, once I put on the old Chad charm, I'm sure I'll uh, I'll
work my way around it. But I actually work that into the the contract and they're like, oh, he still works for w It's like, yeah, okay, I don't know who they're talking to. I mean, I just but I'm not. I just I'm respectful, I'm nice, and I'm like, okay, great, you know when I'm moving all right, So yeah, i'd be exclusive dot com. Check it out if you got something you need. Uh, you don't see, let me no diamond conversations. We're taking a break. We'll come back in
twenty twenty one, twenty one. Yeah, I got a lot of shit going on work wise and stuff. End of the year is Craig CRT so got you just gotta call it, call it, call it when you see it, and just gotta put the brakes on. Alright. I am across the board on social media at ecw DVA Free Scene, and I am going to push my cameos. This time of year is very festive, it's the holiday season. I had not one, but two outfits that I will dawn for you. If you order a cameo from me and
I will be singing you Christmas carols. How great is this? It's it's it's a no brainer. Go to my Twitter at ecw D Francine to order. And on that note, that's a wrap.
