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Here sent you. All Right, damn it, we're back. It's the Eyes up Here flat back on the Creative Control Network. You didn't know by. My name is chad In. Every single week we come back here to go back in time with the creator of content between of the stream ran scene. So when we go back in time, my twenty five again, well my age backwards? Well you'd be I think like forty eight, maybe forty eight, wonderful, forty nine, oh forty nine, okay, I remember it, well, last two
and a half years or so. Oh okay, not a problem. Not all the way back, not a way back, playback. There's a podcast with that name already, so is there. Oh okay, Well, I'm sure they're lovely. We can't we can't steal that. No, I don't steal anything. I'm an original creator, That's what I do. But for these segments, I have no input because the chad Ster just picks what he wants and never tells me. So enlighten us, because I am with the fans. That's technically not true.
I did tell you this when we were together last weekend. I did say I don't listen to you, so I forget. That's perfectly all right, as long as I remembered. We are going to go back and look at a Patreon exclusive episode which these were originally aired on Francine's Patreon channel Patreon dot com slash franccene podcast. We are going
to go back and look at your wrestling firsts. Oh, yes, I do, I do remember now, Okay, okay, for we're talking not your uh, you know, first dance at your you know, your your school as a kid, or your first boyfriend or your first kiss. We're not talking to any of those first. Wrestling first, Oh, it's so loved back then, okay, okay, wrestling first, yes, so a wrestling first can be debut, first match, first impressions of the business. Uh, first time, yeah, met so and so blah blah blah.
Have you encountered any wrestling first in the last few years that you didn't encounter during your career? Hmmm? Yeah, when the guy gave me an eggplant as a gift, that was a first in my life. First. That's the first because they use the eggplant emojis as a penis, don't they they do it. It took me a while to figure out it was an eggplant, But yeah, so is there a connection with that gentleman giving me an egg plant is not like in is he insinuating like, hey,
here's my egg plant? Would you like my real? Like? He might he might might have. I don't know. I have a feeling that people that use that emoji are like over compensating. They might not be the size of an eggplan. Egg plant could be pretty big. I would use a zucchini if I was a guy. Why an eggplant? Like an eggplane? It's like really fat on the end, and then it comes really skinny in the front, like use a nice size zucchini. And then the peach is
that the butthole is a vagin? No, that's the vagina. It's a vagina. Okay, yes, butthole. I don't know that's what the poopy emoji's for. I don't know. But anyway, what text conversations do you have? Girl? Uh? No? I see what the kids are writing, and I'm like, maybe I would do that a little different. Maybe I would use different emojis, But that has nothing to do with
this podcast right now. No, it doesn't here. So Wrestling First, To be honest with you, I know we recorded, there's a long time ago, and I don't remember what I said at all. So I'm listening to it like it's the first time, just like the rest of you. Probably. Oh, it's another wrestling first. It's your first time listening back to you talking about your first time. Yeah, can you imagine that? I don't remember anything that's a first. My memory sharp as attack. I can't believe that it's the
first time. That's the first time I've heard that on these airwaves. It'll be the last two because I'm lying through my team. Let me ask you one that I don't think we asked on the air. I think you know you talk about your like, you know, the first event that you did with the nine to one one choke slam. You talk about that, talk about training, talking
about those things. Do you remember like the first time you got like really potatoed, like just didn't expect it and ouch, holy crap, that was live And I can't believe that hurt like in the ring, in the ring, not not like in training where it happens in the ring and you didn't expect it. Well, I mean there was the bam bam thing where my pelvis was broken. I didn't know what. We didn't call the spot. So when he he all he told me was when we get out there, I'll do something to you. That's all
he said. There you go. And I had no idea what he was going to do, but it was bammer and I trusted him, so I'm just like, yeah, I'll just go with the flow, you know. And I had no idea he was going to press me and just throw me to the side like and you know, it happened within five seconds, but as I'm falling it, you know, it felt like twenty thirty in slow motion. My brain is going, how do I turn my like, how do I land? You know, because I had just gotten my
breast implants. Yes, just so agreed that I was, yeah, I was going to rupture one of them. I had them for like a month, and this was I think this might have been like, I don't know, one of the first bumps or I was just scared I was gonna rupture them. So that was very unexpected to me. Terry Funk slapping me in the face. That was not a called spot. I did not know where that came from. And it hurt like an effort, and you know, like
that took my breath away because he slaps really hard. Also, Anthony Duranty gave me a clothesline to the outside and he literally hit me right in the middle where the Adams Apple is and he closed my throat so I could not breathe. And I didn't tell anybody, but I ran to the back and I was gasping for air in the corner because I was I was also crying because I think I might have hit my head on
the concrete. You know, didn't expect that. I thought he would have taken care of me a little one, a little lower, hit me in the chest, but he got me right and throat. Little things like that happen. What can you do? You take the go with the bag, okay, And those are first So the first time you got bitch slapped in the room, Terry funk he thought of a bit. Yeah, I'm so sorry. Yes, espectually I forget that. Oh my god, was how was it? Are you okay?
I was like that was great, Terry, Thank you so much. Sidebar Have you seen the picture of him that surfaced this last week? I retweeted it. Yes you did, Yes, I did, said attention to my Twitter account. Maybe you would know. I see it. I mean I saw it a hundred times. But it's just sad to see the funkers. Yeah, you know, I still think he would get out of his chair and slap the crap out of whoever who was it. I was gonna say, Gino Hernandez, but he's dead,
Mandy Fernandez. You think he'd think it's nineteen eighty eight and just see, I don't know where his memory is, like, is he you know, I don't know much. Is it dementia? Is he forgetting or is he thinking that he's in another decade like that? I don't know. I don't know if he has dementia. Is it Alzheimer's or is it dementia? I don't know. I'm not sure. What's Take your pick, which one would you want? I wouldn't want either. So exactly, we pray for the Funker and he's a great man,
and you know, age is a factor. Plus banging your head over and over again does not help matters. And that's what's very scary about professional wrestling is you decline quicker than the average man. So well, that's a very sad way to end this flashback. But I'm so sorry. Well you brought it up. I did. It was my fault. It was the first time I made the mood change. Wait to go, h But we'll get over to the flashback now. If you want to follow me, it's at
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about shad wrestling related first. Okay, I'll do that, sure. So, coming off our episode that we had with Selena de Laurenta, I say, you got to say it quick like that. You can't like, you know, you can't fail in the pronunciation of the name, because then you lose the you know, the the Latin flavor of it. But with her being so young and in the business. I always just try to think about, you know, what's going through her head coming in because it is such a different industry than
it was in the mid nineties. So drawing parallels to you is kind of easy in some ways, but then in other ways it's not. But I want to kind of go back into the early days of your career. Let's talk about some first in the wrestling business for you. Well, let's see, I said this before I was twenty. When I started, I had no experience whatsoever. The only wrestlers I ever met were through that WrestleMania party that I won, which is awesome. Yeah, that story. Even today, I'm just like,
how the hell did that happen? I honestly don't think anybody else entered the contest. I think I was the only one that entered, to be honest, because I think I even won first place. Like there was a grand prize and then there was a first place yeah, and they sent me a first place gift and then the great See. I used to fall for all those little things that they do in the magazine and all that stuff, but I never got diddly squat. So this wasn't in
a magazine. This was on the video Jukebox network. This was a legit then that could be you. You're the only one. Yeah, the loan entry. But I'm saying I used to fall for all their work things that they used to put out. Yeah, you know, live Wire, the call and show. I'd call every week. I try to get it in. You can ever get Oh yeah, yeah, well but that so first. So yeah, I I I'll ask you to first if you want. Yeah, I know, yeah, because I'm like, I think I was the first girl
to get through a table. Okay, that's what you're referring to me. I could ask something that easy, but you know, oh no, then explain. Okay, So here we are, right, So you're so you're twenty years old. Yeah, you're walking into ECW. You're walking. Yeah, you're walking into the lines and exactly from the frying pan outside, you know, in the heat, probably into the fryer the inside of the ECW arena being hot as as eighties. But who's the
first person you met when you walk through the door? Uh, at the arena or just getting my foot in in the arena, you walked through the doors of the arena for the first time, was the first person you met, or who's the first person that stands out that you met. Well, h God, you're gonna think this is crazy. I don't remember a lot. I don't know if it's because I hit my head and had like a concussion. There are
things that I cannot remember. I don't remember buildings. I forget spots unless somebody says, go on YouTube and look this up. It's so weird, like, I don't remember a lot of things. I don't remember. The only thing I remember about one of my first times at the arena was meeting Sherry Martel. Right, we've talked that one. Yeah, And I thought I met Shane at the arena for the first time, but he swears we met in New York, so he might be right and I might be wrong.
I remember meeting Paul. I'm pretty sure it was that pulsation. No, I'm sorry, Montgomeryville. That's the first night I remember meeting Paul was when I got choke slammed on that house show by al Okay, so that's my first meeting with Paul. I met JT because he was my trainer, So of course when I went in there, I went to JT
because he was a familiar face. But I didn't really know too many people, you know, so you kind of and and I remember some people told me like stay out of people's way, like don't you know, don't be very vocal and stay out of people's way. So I would read a book and then I got heat for reading a book. I remember Sandman screaming at me, get in front of the monitor, put your book away, And I'm just like, well, who am I supposed to listen to?
You know? So I put my book away and I got sat in front of the monitor, and you know, I didn't want to step on anybody's toes, like I didn't know what was the right thing to do because no one taught me etiquette. I didn't have someone that I can ask questions to, like a like a big sister in the business. I didn't have anybody. No no one helped me. Nobody took that role. That's why I try to help Selena when I can, because yeah, yeah, because I didn't. There was no one for me to
go to. I had no one, literally, and so I just tell her, if you need any help, please don't hesitate, call me, ask me if you're confused, if you you know, I don't know all the answers, but if I can help you, I definitely will because I don't like that feeling of being lonely right not knowing what's going on. So if I could help somebody, I would love to. So the first bump you took is the choke slam, correct, Yeah, yeah, that's the first, the first big bump I ever took
and didn't even know what it was. You didn't know where you were going. I didn't know what it was. And I remember and Paul was just like, what, you don't want to do it? And I go, no, I'll do it. I'm just not sure what I'm supposed to do because I didn't go over that in wrestling school, like they weren't choke slamming me. I was trying to do like rolls and you know, run the ropes and stuff like that, like they didn't. They didn't choke slam me.
So I wasn't really sure what it was. And you gotta remember too, I was a WWF fan, and you know, a lot of the moves that we did, they weren't attempting any of all kind of but they put the ladies on top of literal like pedestals and they were like, don't tell. Yeah, they didn't do much with them. So I just said and and Paul said, don't worry, He'll just grab you. Okay. So my cue was being grabbed by my hair being drugged over the table. Because I
was at the announcing table. I was the timekeeper and I didn't even know how. I said, am I supposed to really timekeep? I didn't even know what the hell was going on? You know, I'm bringing the bell for them. I ranging the bell. They told me when they ring the bell, and then he yeah, I'll just literally just grabbed me, threw me down and it was just like white noise. It was just like a gasp and then silence. And then I'm just laying there like is that good?
Is that bad? What's going on? I don't even know? So, uh yeah, that was the first first thing I did. So I got a first for you. So we've seen beyond the mat most of the wrestling fans out there, and we're seeing Paul's speech where they're they we've seen the image of you backstage during the speech and you kind of you know, there's the motions are flowing. ECW's first pay per view. What are your memories of Barely Legal?
Oh gosh, I was scared out of my gore. I was so scared and I just I remember just telling Shane like I'm gonna throw up and wouldn't throw up and he's like, you're not gonna throw up. I was like, dude, I'm really gonna throw up. And then that like Paul saw me freaking out, and that's when the scene in the movie where he pulled me to the side, and what you didn't see was him telling me, like, what is making you so nervous? And I said the fact that we're live because we never we were live to tape,
you know, and we never were live live. And yeah, I said, Paul, what if I mess up? And he goes, do you ever mess up? I go, couldn't there be a first time? And he's just like, you got this, because Paul is very dramatic and theatrical, and he's just looking at me, you got this. And I'm like, oh, dad, just cry And I literally thought I was gonna throw my guts up. It was just the nerves. My nerves
were so bad, so bad. But my nerves were always bad though, Like I always felt sick before I walked through the curtain, and then once I went through, I kind of composed myself, you know, but my mind was always turned. I'm always thinking of the next spot that's you know, going on in the ring or and I
said before like I tried to. I tried to know five or six spots ahead of mine what was going on, just in case there was a misstep or something, where like I could be helpful to the guys if something messed up there, I you know, know what to do. And so I tried. I always tried to listen to the complete match and just retain as much information as I could. But yeah, I was a bundle of nerves that night. And then even if you ask Shane like it wasn't it wasn't the best match on the card, right,
you know. And then we had a talk of Missinoku just blew out of the water. We were just like, oh, okay, that's great. You know, so you live in your own east. How about this one? How about ECW's first musical CD. You were shared on the back cover, so I was trying to think maybe first piece of merchandise whatever. But the CD was a big deal because everybody knew the music of ECW was really what helped set the vibe
of ECW. What do you think about being on the the the the back cover of the first ever ECW CD? Is it hold on? That one's the one? Yeah? That one? Extreme music by various artists. How all right? This is how smart I am. So I made the cover of that one, right, And then the music label gave out swag.
I'm not sure if it was the same music label that did the second one, not really sure, but they gave out swag and they gave out these shirts and uh it had their label on the shirts, right, And I said, I'm gonna wear their sh shirt and I'll get my picture taken in it, and I'm gonna get on the on the second the second CD as well, And I did because to put their shirt on. Oh yeah, yeah, I put them over with their shirt and I made I made both of the covers of the CDs. But
that's perfect though. But the first one, yeah you sad, bad boy over and you're on the backside the track listing. Which funny story about that. So where I used to live in New Jersey, there was a music store downtown and my grandmother would go into that town every weekend to get her hair done and you know, go shopping, so when you know, just asking what you want for Christmas?
And I am so being a huge mark at the time one of the U CW music CD, not knowing what the cover looked like at the time, so then all I could picture was my seventy seven year old grandma buying The Sandman wrapped up in barbed wire, bringing it up to the counter at the music store, and You're like, yeah, I like to buy this. They're probably
like looking at it, like, ok old, yeah, go. Wasn't that the one where when you opened it up it had all of our pictures over the songs and it gave a quote I think, So I haven't looked at it in years. Yeah. Well, if I had a copy in front of me, I would laugh my hands off because my quote was not from me. And I was like, I like to spread oil all over my cam body. And I'm like, what the friend who wrote this was
that ship? Was that Shane over there and being like and this is what I want you to say, say say this for her? No, that was probably I don't I think it was Paul. Actually, I don't know who wrote it. But I remember getting this dad and I was like, oh, this is cool. Then I opened it up and I was like, oh my god, this is mortified. Who wrote that? I didn't say that, but no, but it was nice to be you know, it was nice to be featured. Yeah I was. I was thrilled to
be on it. Yeah, it was it was something good that happened. To think there's any anything else first wise, I mean, you know, I just wanted to throw a couple out there. It's really uh, you know, there's really there's been maybe next time we talk about last, you talk about first. I don't know how about last next time, but I mean, you know, it's pretty much all I got for this one. If if you're if you're satisfied, what are some other first you remember about Francine? Leave
it in the comments section. If you want a relations of wrestling, I mean to preface it, I mean, like, come on, relationship of wrestling something. Maybe I didn't think about it. I could have. I could have said first full match, but maybe that we see that for another day. So I wanted to kind of think outside the box. So you've been listening to uh this Patreon exclusive. Hope you enjoyed it, right? You hope you enjoyed right? That's all we can ask. Yeah, enjoy and there you go.
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