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Eyes Up Here Xtra: Freestyle (ECW Behind The Scenes)

Dec 23, 202219 min
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oday's Eyes Up Here Xtra is a little more of the freestyle format. We talk about drama in the workplace, behind the scenes issues that occurred in ECW and how Francine managed to navigate through some muddy waters at times in the locker room.

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Speaker 1

Well, if you were going to make a list of the forgotten holidays in your world, what would really talk the list? Did guys up here and didn't wish anybody a happy Thanksgiving? He'll turn here, we go, we go before we had. Oh we're terrible. Oh my god. I personally don't care if anybody had a happy Thanksgiving. So there you go. Really whatever, they don't care. If I did, They don't care. If I did, I don't care if they did, either care if I did. I hope everybody lists. Well,

if you're a Patreon, remember you're listening. So I hope you all had a great Thanksgiving. Same here. It's kind for a freestyle freestyle style. There you go. I just like this because it's just an open forum to chit chat a little bit and uh, kind of things that come to mind. I mean, it's usually wrestling base, but

it's funny. I'm going to turn real life that I have going on and ask you from the wrestling perspective your illustrious wrestling career, if you ever encountered some of this in your wrestling days, so I you will you know very well. Uh, current employment I have is quite tumultuous with drama can we talk about? I mean, I'll allude to the drama. I mean it's it's crazy, a lot of backstabbing, back talking, you know, a lot of yeah behind you know, behind people's backs, just shit being

said left and right for shit being played with. Yeah, oh well that place absolutely. Uh that's I'm the only one who can hold in the laughter. I guess right, everybody's that. But so I'm seeing a lot of drama that I've never experienced before in a workplace. But we know with wrestling from all the stories that tends to happen a little bit more in the locker room. In this instance, it's it's politics because there's one click versus management. We know of a famous clique that took on management

and kind of took a roster hostage. But where have you seen the backstage drama boil over in such a manner where it made it hard for you to go to work? I mean no, I mean, okay, I wasn't. I wasn't meaning that I was just thinking general question. Well, I mean, I think we all know of a time where Shane and I weren't getting along because of circumstances that I can't really get into on the air. But you know, there was a period of time where we were still working together, but he didn't give me any

spots anymore, and we didn't do the kiss spot. There was a disconnection and is that a word? Yeah? No, absolutely, And that's what made it hard. Was it was very hard because it wasn't for me anymore. And you know, Shane, I love him and he's one of my best friends now. But for that short period of time when we weren't speaking, I did not enjoy coming to work, you know, and it was it became like it would make me anxious and I would get scared, and you know, people were noticing,

like you're not doing anything anymore, what's going on? And I didn't. I didn't want everybody knowing like our dirty laundry. I felt like it was our business and we needed to take care of it, and it just it wasn't fun, you know. So I would literally go out there and do nothing, just do the entrance but not the full entrance. No. No, he was so mad at me. Was this before he left? See, I'd have to go back and watch that, But I

don't think it. I think this was more a house shows because he knew for TV there had to be a certain you know what I mean, Yes, but on the house shows and I would go to Bambam and Chris and they were just like, I don't know what to tell you, you you know, and it was just it was it was bad. It was bad for a while.

And that's that's what I'm talking about. It makes it so hard to even go in because you just you don't want the next day's drama to be either more dramatic than the first, the last day or you know, is this going to be the day it all stops? But when it finally I mean, it took years for you guys to get back on the same page. But you know, unfortunately, and my my profession right now, I don't want to wait years for things to iron out

well iron out now. I mean, you know, we we we kind of mended fences before he left for w CW, but we didn't. It wasn't like we kept in touch until his hardcore homecoming started And that's when he had called me for like the first time. I don't even know how many years had passed, and uh, we talked, and then we talked that night, and after that night we were fine. You know, it was it was like it never happened, right, and we'd never discussed what happened.

And a couple of times I brought it up and he's like, oh, we'll talk about it later, but we never do. And it's like it we're fine now, So what do we really need to bring up what happened thirty years ago or twenty years ago or whatever. The time was like, we're good now, you know. So I think it was, uh, it was just being There was jealousy, there was stubbornness, there was miscommunication, and that was it.

And that's you know, fortunate with the history that you guys had, and you know, did it affect some short term history at that point? I don't know. I mean he left anyway, and like I said, it was kind of okay, but we didn't keep in touch. It was kind of like, okay, see you later. If I see you down the road, I see you. And that's why I always say I thought when I walked into the arena, I thought the carry blood was gonna dump on me like movie because I was so scared. I was like, okay,

am I being set up for as a rib? Like what's going on? But it couldn't have worked out better, and that night was great. And like I said, he's one of my best friends. I talked to him all the time. We have a great dynamic. We have so much fun when we're on the road together. He's never been inappropriated. He knows my husband, my husband, trusts him, you know, he's I call my my my husband, my road husband. Yeah, because he is. He just he takes care of me and he's just been he's been there

for me and he's been an awesome friend. So that's beautiful. What an emotion, What an emotional answer to my question? Times you have to take two step backward to go forward. Yeah. Absolutely, well, I will, of course continue to fill you in on the drama that goes in on my side. Okay, because it's pipe piping hot. I was twenty minutes late to

our recording because that's going on. Oh boy. Another question I have is, I don't know if you've seen have you followed some of the AE w attendance stories that are going on. Is it dropping? Yeah? Let me show you this picture here. This is incredible. Look at look at this? Can you see that? Yeah? That is all empty seats? So oh oh I'm seeing Okay, I'm seeing past the lighting. So this is hard camera over here. Obviously they push everybody on the side. Correct, Yeah, that's

not good. Yeah, what town was that in? This? Was? Was this Connecticut? Maybe this was They're not running house shows, right, they're only doing TV teamings. They're not. But now allegedly with this edition of Jeff Jarrett, there's a thought that they may start running house shows and that Jeff Jarrett might be the one that starts to do that, because that's what Jeff Jarrett was doing with WWE before he was let go. Oh, he was finding buildings for he

was the manager of live events. Okay, so that's the rumor is that aw might be doing that. But this, I want to say that was Connecticut. Could have been Florida wherever they were this past week. Connecticut was Mohegan's son, So then it wasn't Connecticut. No, No, So then it wasn't Connecticut. It was wherever they were. I think it might have been Florida, maybe Minnesota's it's a weird it's a weird city. Wherever they were, And that's not good.

I don't care what building you run. That's not good. Yeah, I mean, sometimes it depends on the city that you're in to draw for. But if it like a house show, I can understand a low attendance. But if you're doing a TV taping where they get your TV, yeah, that's not good at all, you know what I mean? The whole one section was empty, the whole side. Oh so no, it was Bridgeport, Connecticut. The total what the hell was this called? Bridge Port Conneticut? The total mortgage arena just

rolls off the tongue, a total mortgage. I don't know when they were there, but that was last night. That was last night. I'm sorry, okay, because I know they were at Mohegan Sun a couple of weeks ago or something. Jerry was telling me and then Betty actually went to the to the show. Yeah. Wow, not good. The person in attendance here says it looks like what the MSG house shows. WWF you still look like during their dead period in the nineties when they couldn't fill, you know,

even ten thousand seats. So what are they drawing on TV? Are they still up there at the million? They're in that excuse hovering under a million. They really haven't eclipsed the million unless it's those huge, huge shows and now the elite guys are coming back Bucks and Omega. Now, the one little interesting thing was, according to people in attendance last night, they were selling a new CM Punk T shirt. Well, they're capitalizing on is he staying? Is

he going right? They have the I guess they have the the IP while he's technically still under their control. Well I just saw a picture of him announcing for MMA. Yeah he did. He's back to doing MMA work again, guys. So that kind of puts the nail on the coffin for me, you would think. But yeah, they were selling a brand new aw CM Punk you know with the

fists T show. So did you see that? You know, the rumors going around with Punk maybe going back to WWE, and like most of the locker room balking on it, saying they don't want him here, don't have the best reputation. Those guys obviously don't like money, so they they'll let their personal feeling no way of it. They don't want to cancer in the locker room, so to speak, is what they're saying. But that's not what the business is though.

Isn't the business to make the money. Who cares about the guy it's one guy who's there for big shows. If you have to work with him, it's a problem. If he comes in and you have to work with him and he's being condescending and being a dickhead and not likable and putting you in a bad position. Do you want to go through that every week and run a program with this guy? Because I'll tell you what, I had to work with someone like that and it wasn't fun. It's not fun. Are you piggybacking off of

the Roman reigns? No, I was just reading comments in general. It said the majority of the WWE locker room does not want him back. Yeah, Roman said, he said, I don't like him. Okay, he's not a nice guy. Okay, dot dot dot, but if he will do business, we will welcome him back with open arms. If somebody comes in and drops the attitude and it's like I'll be a team player, I'm gonna work and I'm gonna work with everyone, and I'm gonna try to leave my ego

at the door, then absolutely. But if you're going to walk in and like in so many different interviews that people, oh, I'm the team leader, I'm the locker room leader. You have to listen to me. We're gonna have a meeting. We're gonna do this, We're gonna do that. No, we're not who appointed like Rob an Dam said, who appointed him the locker room leader? He just gave himself that title one night, walked in and we were all supposed to go to a meeting. Got the fuck out it.

I just watched this interview with Rob. Yeah, it was recent, it was It was a recent one he did, but he was going I think he was going back to when they were in the faky c dub together, right, Yeah, though he I think Punk then by the time Rob was doing like the cameos, he was going, He's coming, He's goings coming. That's when Punk was towards the top. I don't think that Punk and RVD had a good

dynamic because RVD never sniffed where Punk was. Oh but you know what I'm saying, It's like, don't go in with an attitude, a bad attitude, especially when you haven't been there in years. It's I don't know, is it good for business. It could be if you could get along with the people you work with. Say I like Punk, I like Punk. I've shared locker rooms with him in MLW and and Fake e c dub him and I never had maybe because I'm a female, but him and I never had words. He was always sweet to me.

We always got along. I've sat there, We've had conversations about different things, you know, points of life and things beyond wrestling. He was always cool to talk with, so I never had I've never seen the side of Phil that everybody else is like, Oh he's this, I've never seen it. He's always been very nice to me. Yeah, he's you know, he's just a different beast. You know, he's got a strong will, he's stubborn, he's got a old school mentality that doesn't fly with a lot of people.

But you know, you got to be in his little world for him to like you. And it's you know, I know how that is. Sometimes I get accused of not really letting people in and not being the friendliest. I get that, But you know, in this day and age where everybody is super sensitive and everything's got to be aligned perfectly, he's not going to be everybody's cup of tea, and he's probably not going to wrestle now

ever again. And I thought maybe he could go back, and I don't think he is going to go back mine. Did you see the video of him and Cool Cabana doing a shoot interview about four or five years ago or something, or no, it's it's much older. So they used to work with Feinstein a lot back in the early r OA stays, and he would have them sitting

down together all the time. They did. And they were in front of the banner and they were talking about this one girl who used to drive them in a van every weekend, and they held up a picture of her, and I don't know she considered a rat or what a punk? They close up with punk and I hated that girl, But there she was in a bikini and they're showing this picture of this girl. I didn't listen to the whole thing because I just had click. But I'm just like, oh my god, I wonder if that

girl is a worker. I wonder if she's in the business now, like Punk's burying her, you know. But it was a good chance. I don't know, but I know Colt went back and had a match and everybody, Yeah, everybody was thrilled for him to be there. And I've only met Colt one time in person, but he came right up and gave me a big hug and it was very very nice. And we follow each other on Twitter, so I know I know about him. Yeah, it only got to meet him that one time at one of

the wrestle cons or something. But he was sweet too, like everybody's nice. Everybody's gonna be sweet to you. Everybody. You're you're a vet, You're you're you're very nice. That's not true. Well, I that's the way I look at it. But see that's and again that's what I was brought up around, was you have to be respectful to your anybody right that has that. That's how I became friends with Shane is he was sitting by himself in the locker room and I went and sat and talked to him,

and you just respected people. There out a couple of times around Culcabana. I'm not a worker, so I was probably true. Just like stinky Smelly Mark. He was a little bit of a dick. Oh Punk though was not when I was around Punk. It was when I was going to the Rway shows with PJ in like two thousand and three, two thousand and four. Didn't pay any attention, and that's what I wanted. I didn't want anybody to have any kind of spotlight or think anything negative. Should

be quiet. Okay, well, you know I try to be nice to everyone, but I'm not. I don't go out of my way at these conventions to go up to people. Like if I'm staring at you and you got your head down and you're on your phone, you can feel somebody's presence. If you looked up at me within a minute, then I won't. I'm not gonna go hey, hi, I'm you know, blah bla blah. I won't. But if we meet eye contact, I'll be the first one to walk over to a youngster. I do it all the time.

Who couldn't like you? That's what I would say, Oh, there's plenty of people who don't like it. Who wouldn't like you? You're you're so nice, You're very friendly? Who am I agree with you on that one? But you know that's something like your mother would say, right, who wouldn't like you? No? She used to say, those dresses that you wear, the people are gonna get the wrong idea. Mom an actress. No, you're an actress. They don't know that they see you, they see you with these guys.

Oh it's terrible. She hated it. Oh my gosh. Do good. She's there. All right. Well, we'll close it out for today. Little freestyle action, yo, just like uh the a W. That's my theme song. We gotta be like the acclaimed on a W. They do their raps. We gotta have like a rap intro. Okay, let's make one next time. I can't do that. I'm not that creative. All right. Well, for the Queen of Extreme, this is the chad, sir. We'll catch on the flip side.

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