Eyes Up Here: The Aussie Guy

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here sent you. All right? Is that one right here? Right now? This is eyes up here, and you're listening to an all new Eyes up Here exclusively on our Patreon channel as well as on the Creative Control Network. You didn't know by now, my name is Chad, and every single week I'm joined here by says it on the screen here. If you're watching us, the Queen of Extreme Francine, it's the Queen of Extreme Francis. Hello, how are you well? I know how you are. I'm just lovely.

You look like you are, uh showing me a new blush. He's very pink today, ladies and gentlemen. For those who aren't Patreon members and cannot see this in its entirety, he's very He's very pink. Does anybody have a blood pressure he's a very flustered a blood pressure taker. Whatever that.

I'm not making fun of it. I'm just you are noticing just you look like your daughter experimented with some blush and just puts a down on your face, you know, and it's funny so and also too, like I usually have my lights on in the background, like I always have the room set. I can't get like the right light. There's like a thing going through my head. I'm freaking flying from my conversation. Can we get somebody to help him today? Would this be Would this be better if

I just did this? No? I don't like that. Not for me. I need to see. But look, I look so cool there I was. That's a that's a cool older picture. Yes, that should have been your eight x ten an older picture because I look younger there. No, I that was taken in the Ring of Primal Conflict Wrestling when I was their guest hosts WOW, alongside my two man Power Trip cohort. There we were the guest hosts for the evening, kind of like how Raw did

the guest GM. All we did was announce the opening contest and like the special guests for the next show. So were you nervous doing something like that? No, not at all, not at all. No, see, I would be nervous. No, it was great, But I wasn't nervous. But I stepped on. So John and I were supposed to do a back and forth, and I'm the one who started it. I did my whole you know this is I did that whole thing right. And uh, we were announcing that Ricky

Steamboat was going to be on the next show. It was like the special guest referee, and I was supposed to say up to something and then handed to him so he could say Ricky Steamboat. And I was in the moment, so I'm just like, Ricky the Dragon Steamboat will be joining us next month. No, was there heat. No, we had a laugh about it. It was actually very funny because I was I was feeling it. I was in the moment. Did you do it like our friend Howard Finkel would do it? You know, I actually did

not know. I channeled my inner chat on Chad took them like Chad took them out. Say, now, me being a you know, a well rounded performer that I have been as in the business now thirty years, I would have been nervous, and you're not. You're just not nervous, which is uh. It was weird because you know, I'm trying to think. I definitely hadn't been like in a role on a show before. And I mean I've been to so many of them. I've been, you know, in

the heat. You know where I was the most nervous working for that Indy was when they got TV and they brought me on as a producer to do their promost for their TV. That's where I was nervous because I didn't know who the hell any of these guys were. I didn't know any of the storylines going on, and all they did was hand me a paper and say, this is what I want this guy to say in

this It's terrible. It's really funny that you mentioned that because I was thinking the other day, like on Twitter and on social media and stuff, so many people always say to me, are we going to see you on AW or are we going to see you in Impact? Are we going to see you on WWA? And I'm thinking to myself, like, I don't watch I don't even

know who's on what program who. Like I know what my friends are doing obviously because they're my friends and I keep up with things on Twitter and stuff, But like if I were, and I'm not saying I'm going back. I mean, look, guys, I'm like fifty, Like, let's just excuse me. I have the logo still fifty and fifty and fabulous. But like, if I were to like go back in any capacity, I would really have to do

my homework. Like I would have to take a week and just watch like probably twenty episodes back just to see what the storylines are, who the people are, who's aligned with who? I don't know anything like anything. It's tough, yes, it's very tough. And it changes so quickly. Like we've talked about this before, These angles are so quick these days. Nothing stays for more than like three four weeks. Like one day they're best friends and the next day their enemies.

I'm like, how do you even keep up with this stuff? So I don't know, but you're not alone with that. So a buddy of mine was doing some potential consulting work for AW and he was told, you know, be up on the product as much as you can. And he was like, Hey, what do you know about AW? And I was like, well, not much because the stories don't really continue. They feature like Keith Lee was this huge signing from two weeks ago or three weeks ago. He hasn't been on TV since he debuted. So they

leave stuff hanging and they don't come back. So it's hard to be in that position to follow. It's like you can't you can't follow it. Like in my mind, if you're not gonna use someone right away, at least do some vignettes and keep them on your TV so that people know he's coming, you know what i mean, Like just to keep them intrigued with the character. Do something people in like fans forget some fans forget it, or they're like, oh, well, he was supposed to get

a push, he must suck. He's not. And I'm not talking about Keith Lee just enjoying. You know, they're gonna push this guy and then he's gone and oh well maybe he's not as big as we thought he was gonna be or something like that. I mean, you you have to keep momentum up. And it's just like I see all this news and then it did like they drop the ball and I'm like, what happened to so and so? You know what I mean, Like it's so

weird the way things work. That's what I'm hoping, Like with this whole road situation, like if he you know, all fingers are pointing at WWE right now, I'm just hoping that they they just push him to his potential and it's not another you know, we get him for three months and then he's gone from TV, because that could happen, you know, and I and in his case, he worked so very hard to just revamp himself and show us exactly what he's capable of. And and if

he you know, WWE is known for burying people. Let's hope it's not the case. I think Cody's got them kind of by the balls, though, I hope so, I hope he does well. I mean he's, like I said, I don't know the guy, but he's worked really hard from what I've seen, and uh, you know, the last three years just reinvented himself as this top you know character in wrestling. And now if he goes there and they just poo poo on him, that's gonna be a shame. I poopoo indeed, and that you know, they know the

best way to do it. They'll just you know, bury you, or they'll bring up all the old crap that he did that was bad and not good. I mean, this guy, you know, you run down. This is kind of the similarities to when Shane went back in ninety five, right, Shane went back as the top guy on the on the Indy c in a ECW goes back there, he's Dean Douglas Cody. The last time they saw him on TV was Stardust, right, Okay, who was? He had even

evolved past being like a gold Dust clone. He was this weird kind of like the Joker like space character, right like every member of Kiss rolled in the one but before that, and people forget this crap. His gimmick was that he had a mustache, the porn mustache. He had the porn stash and like, and that's where you know in the first storyline that he's in that they're going to bring it up in a in a promo. Oh why don't you go back to growing your mustache, Cody?

Or why don't you go back to being star Dust or something like that. Oh for his case, I hope not. I mean that's and Cizarro couldn't come to terms on a contract, which I was just like, wow, And that guy, Oh, he's amazing. He's so very talented and never got the push that he frightfully deserved over there. So I would love to see him, you know, in another organization as a world champion, because I think he deserves that run.

There's just so much, so much good talent out there and they're not being utilized the way that they're supposed to. So yeah, pretty interesting right now in the world professional wrestling, and with Cizarrow. What's funny and fans, don't you know? I understand there's a there's a distinctive line between smart fans and the average fan. You look at Cizarrow, Oh, we should have been world champion. Ahways should have been the Well guess what, he's been employed for ten years.

He given a ton of money, so I'm sure he's fine with not being champions in that contract. As a performer myself, you can be performed, you know, performing at your highest right and still be like at a mid card level and not be happy with your position, Like you know, it's good to have money coming in for

ten years straight. But I'm sure he was frustrated at times, because let's face it, people are in this business to achieve certain things, and if he wanted to be a champion and they have, you know, they have their thumb down on him, maybe he wasn't happy. I mean, he did try to renegotiate a deal and they couldn't come to terms, so he walked. Yeah, he could have settled for less money, but he didn't, So there's something there. Yeah,

I mean, you're getting older. You know, people have certain goals that they want to reach in this business, and it's sometimes it's not always about money, you know, it's what you can do for yourself and for your character. Right, But for ten years, you know, he was making a pretty damn good a lot of money, and now he can go away from there, dictate his schedule, pick where

he wants to go. And I'm sure you know, yeah, having that world championship or that top run would have been great, But you know what, at the end of the day, now he can just go do that someplace else that'll appreciate him, and he can and I get that, But that doesn't mean he was happy for those ten years. Oh yeah, I'm not saying he's happy at all. But well you're saying, you know, I'm saying ten years of employment at a high rate, at a high dollar speaks volumes,

that he's resigned multiple times in that ten years. Yeah, I'm just saying that it didn't mean that he was happy. He probably wanted more and I just feel like he could gave them a good you know, title run. He could have been a good chance. Again, there's a lot of people that fit that description that never get the opportunity. But you know, some people are just happy getting a paycheck.

I could tell you for the first time and speaking to somebody directly that worked for WWE, Yeah, I actually found somebody that enjoyed their time there from top to bottom. And I was a guy who's going to be on the next new generation Declassified. He was one of the artists in the early nineties designing ring attire, debut concepts and posters. And I said, I was like, you know, basically, I haven't met anybody who's enjoyed the work there and go did you like he goes? I loved every minute

of him. Maybe if he was talent, he would have felt differently. I mean I didn't like it there for the time I was there. It made a dream job. I said this in an interview with somebody the other day that working for WWE was a dream job that turned into your worst nightmare. You go in with these high hopes and big eyes, and you know, you just want to you just want to do well, and you want them to use you to your potential. You go to them, you have your meetings, you offer everything that

you have. I will work, I will this, You pitch ideas and they go uh huh uh huh hun to your face, and then you turn around, you walk out the door, and it's just like it's just like you never had that meeting to begin with, because they most of the time, it's just like who cares? And and then you say to yourself, why the hell did they even hire me? Because that's what I've said multiple times. I'm like, why why did they even hire me? You know, it's you know, it's not for everyone, and that's all

I'll say. Appreciate the opportunity, but yeah, it was. It was. It was a fulfillment of a dream. It was the guy who showed up to their offices with his resume, knocking on the door to politely deliver one. But you know that you know that meme or that that jip that's on Twitter of the guy with the mouth that falls open and it's like a skeleton face and he goes, oh yeah, yeah, that day one I walked in, I'm like, all right, I'm here, and then mouth dropped at the

horrible so well, we're gonna dial all the way. Technically, if you watch like any cartoon, Australia is underneath us. It's like you have to go all the way underneath the globe to get to Australia. But I pitched this guy indirectly to you on the fiftieth birthday party on YouTube, he commented, and I put him over big time, saying he was this great, funny whatever. So the pressure is on to deliver. It's the aucy guy, awesy guy. Is that what you'd like to be called? Yeah, that's yeah.

My name is Dane. But first I just wait one second. Yeah, I could listen to you talk for hours. There is something now. People say I have the worst voice in the world, and to them, I say this, but there is something about an Australian accent that just makes my heart flutter. So I might just sit back and just let you say whatever you want. I just love love that voice. He gets in trouble when he says what

he wants, so I don't know. I don't I can say whatever you want on this because we are You don't want to, you don't want to let me say whatever I want. But no, thank you very much. For having me on. It's it's it. I said to Chad, it would make my life and my honor. There man, come on the show. Uh and and yeah, look I I love your accent as well. And every time you're in the cold open of Get My Go, I love hearing Get My Gal. Yeah, people, it's very annoying. No

I disagree. I love it. I love when there's character in the voice. Chad's kind of got that, you know, just that standard American broadcast of voice. You know, I can't impersonate you, Chad, You're you're so difficult talk to me off air. Maybe that might change a little bit. We just talked about this last week, how the accent can go up and go down with depending who you

talk to. So I'm in front of this thing. It sounds different when I'm around Fred seeing that, you know, when we're outside of this, I'm like, I talk more like this and like, hey, yeah, you doing now you don't. I just feel like I don't have a specific accent. But I mean in America, depends on where you are in the country, and everybody just it changes the farther up ninety five you drive. It's just the Northeast that happens. It changes if you go to the Midwest, it changes

if you go to California. It's just really bizarre. But everybody that I meet from Australia to me, sounds the same. Now I only meet people at conventions, so I haven't met a lot of asses, but television and I just find I just find it very very appealing, so very very A lot of Americans say that, And it's interesting because when I listen to a lot of American you know, podcasts and radio and stuff, and whenever I hear the Australian accent pop pop, I go ooh, you know, it's

weird to me. But you're right, that doesn't to me. There's no there's no separation across our country. Like I feel like the accent is pretty much the same all across the country. But it is fascinating how much it changes across the US. And you know, from the Southern States and then up to that northeastern area that they

range so much. It's it's very interesting. Yes, and when and when you travel, uh and you tend to pick up like if I'm in the South, like after my four day loop, I'll say, well, I reckon and then I go, wait a minute, that I'm from the northeast, so it's you pick up little things here and there.

So where I live in Virginia is basically like you start to go south, and then that's where the accents get deeper and deeper, because we would be considered northern Virginia, right, But we are around so many people that have different accents that my wife and I talk in the accent like as a goof to one another. But then I find myself not being able to stop talking like that as the goof in my regular time around here. And

it's the hardest thing to do. But you know, like, wait a second, but I sound like a fake Southerner, But I can't control the fact I'm trying to sound like a fakes other as a goof, and that's where it is. But I'm like down here in Virginia, I'm the I'm the sore thumb. You're kidding me. Nobody sounds like me around here. You're not a true Virginia Virginian. I'm not a true virgin either, But that's actually anesty guy. So tell the people listening where are you from? What

show did we pull you from? And how did you get involved with them because this guy over here loves you guys. Yeah, now I pointed this way, this guy over here that Chad has been very coind to me and a big supporter. So I mean there's a there's a long running saga that it obviously culminated in Get My Go and say that's that's how I've got to know Chad is it's through Get My Go and the hours that we've sat there listening to terrible podcasting and making fun of it. And look, it's it really is

a lot of fun. And yeah, people will say it's main spirited or whatever, but we have a lot of fun doing it. And I've got no problem if anyone wants to, you know, shoot back at me, like you know, go feel off. I've got no problems with anyone coming back at me. So yeah, we we just try and make each other laugh and it's always a good time. I want to Get My Go. I am still waiting for that. I've had an invitation, several invitations, but never a follow up, and wondering, can't get it done on

Friday that's the problem. Well, they said they would. They said every single person that I now I am friendly with the Get my Go crew, you know. Uh, and every single person said, oh, we will do it on a Friday for you. And I'm sitting here every Friday, like, where are these persons in here waiting? I agree, you know, I had I gotta do it on Saturday morning. Poor Dean has to do it Saturday night. So technically for Dean right now, he's enjoying his nice Friday evening Australia. Well,

I mean technically it's Saturday morning. It's jeez, twenty five to one. It's twelve thirty five on Saturday morning. Well, oh geez, we should have started earlier for this poor man. I'm so sorry we kept you out unless you're a night out and then I don't know. It's perfectly fine. This is the standard. And it started with Get My Go. This is kind of standard for me. And what I try to do is I'll grab a couple of hours sleep beforehand and then wake up, do the do the session,

and then go back to bed. So I'm used to this. This is this is standard for me. When when Chad said eleven eleven am Eastern on a Friday, I was like, oh, perfect, yeah, that's exactly That's exactly what he said, because that's when we usually do get my goal. But what I will mention though with Dean and get my goal and the stigma I think we run into. See I look at

it as a parody. I don't look at anything we're doing as being mean, because just like he said, if you can dish it out, you got to take it. And anybody who wants to retort and say something back, I mean, what can we say right that we haven't said about somebody already. But I just look at it as a comedy show and for somebody like Dean to be in Australia, have completely different background than me, but be able to go comedically on a certain topic. He's great.

You know, he's got quick time in he's got good chops. And I wonder, is it that American influence of the This guy is a big sports fan of American sports, listens to shows from America. Is that a big influence for you? Absolutely? You and I have spoken about Opening Anthony before. When I discovered Opening and Anthony on YouTube, that was incredible. I've never heard anything like this before

in Australia. Well, it's incredible listening to these guys just make fun of each other and make fun of everything

else on the radio. So that was big, and then the podcast that I do is based on us all being fans of a particular sports talk radio host and this group of fans, the Mala Militia, is a brutal bunch of human beings, and going back and forth with them on Twitter over the last five, six, seven years, you just sort of it becomes so much fun to just all right, you're gonna say something to me, I'm gonna say something back, and you just keep trying to

think of things as quick as possible because you've got it coming at you from all angles. So yeah, I definitely think the American influence Australians are not. Australians will make fun of each other, but they're not as brutal I think as Americans. Americans will go for the jaguar.

I watch some now I know this is different, but I watch UK reality TV sometimes just to you know, if nothing's going on here and because I love reality TV, right, and sometimes they'll have Australian people in the cast as well. But I noticed that like the UK people are brutal, like they're they're very vulgar and know if I know we have a lot of fans in the UK, but they find like the cursing and like the C word.

It's like every it's like saying how you're doing, Like they it just comes out of their mouth, you know. And some of the Australian people were jumping in and they were just doing it as well. And I said, well, I said, you know, when I get really angry, like I don't curse in my house because I have kids, right, and I don't like to curse in front of my kids and stuff. But I've been known to drop an F bomb if I have to. But these people, they

go for the juggler. And like I've seen some Australians just be like just cursing and just attacking people on these reality shows. And I'm just like, wow, I thought the US was bad. I thought, like, uh, you know, like Flora Bamba, sure, and those kind of things were bad. But like these Australians and these UK reality shows, they take it to like the next level when it comes to dating and inter right, they're having sex on television.

I like, it just seems like out there it's more accepted than it is here in the in the US. And I don't know, I find it like the rating are really high, and I find it very very fun to watch myself. But I've always wanted to like explore Australia. I've never been able to been there to go there rather, but it just looks like a beautiful place. But I just feel like you guys are way more laid back than we are in the United States. So I mean

that's my take on what I see anyway. No, it's true, Australians are sorry, excuse me, Australians are very very laid back and exactly and look, and it's proven through like you know, the big debates in America, like the gun control debate, and everyone always points to Australia. We happily said, yeah, right, you know, you can have our guns bag. It's fine. Cool. And you know, similarly, now during COVID, like Australian our governments have said all right, look, this is what we're doing.

You know, you're you're gonna mask up, you're gonna lock down, you're gonna be you're gonna be forced to get double vaccinated and all that, and Australians just go, yeah, okay, all right, let's just they were pretty harsh. They seem like you had very little choice with that stuff. What would happen if you didn't want to get vaccinated? I would have lost my job. My industry is like mandated. I kind of yeah, I can't work the job I'm working.

If it was it Australia. Was Australia the country that was like taking the kids into like the stadium and vaccinating the kids without the parents or something like. Wasn't there some insane like like crazy like manday when it came to even the kids getting the vaccine. I'm not sure it's gone that far, to be honest with you, and I think some of it there's definitely been some hyperbole when it by the time it gets over to

America that they filter it. Although I will say Australian covers American news the best out of everybody, because they rip the hell out of it and they tell like this, that's true, and we you know, we're all kind of in agreement, like everyone's kind of waiting for our next election because everyone's kind of in agreement that the current guy's got to go. You know, he's like it's kind of a unified country at the moment. But in the respect that none of us, like our Prime minister. But yeah,

it's it's interesting. I do find it fascinating the divide that all this is caused. But I'm just I'm just going to do as I'm told. You know. Yeah, how is it over there now? Is it still as strict as it once was or are they starting to get a little more lenient. So yeah, they've made certain venues that are double vaccinated mandatory, that you can't go there unless you're double vaccinated, and also we have indoor mask mandates.

You still tell yeah, wow, Yeah, are your cases still high? No, I mean they're the highest, they're the highest they've ever been. But in the beginning, I think everyone like kind of agreed with how our without how our state premiere had handled it because we had minimal cases and we were one of the first places in the world to fill up a stadium with people again after COVID, and we had a lot of stuff like that where we were living a normal life for while America was, you know,

fully locked down and everything. We were living a normal life. But then now on the back end of it, as you guys are starting to open back up, we're over here getting more cases than we've ever had before. But it's still such a small amount that it just it makes you well, you know, you you're forcing us to get vaccinated. You know, you're making us wear masks. Like when when's the end point? I guess is what a lot of people are starting to ask is when when

do we go back to life as normal? No one knows, never hated your Prime Minister spend his time in an inner tube and like some pond in the middle of nowhere. Yes, I knew the Simpsons would come any Prime Minister. Oh gosh, the world is crazy. What are your other projects besides get my goal? Yeah? So I do a podcast called

Malletown and yeah. So there's a sports talk radio host by the name of Ben Maller and I discovered him when I was becoming passionate about the NFL and different American sports, and I really love his take on sports, as well as his format of his show and how he runs his show and how he incorporates his callers.

And he's an overnight host, so he gets some wacky, z any characters calling in, which is and he just he works with them so well and creates amazing makes creates amazing radio with his interactions with these callers, and so, yeah, I kind of decided with a few other members of the fan base that let's sort of make a podcast about the fan base, the Mala Militia as they're called. So I've interviewed a bunch of different members of the militia and yeah, we do a weekly podcast and people

email and all that. Yeah, we sort of made it kind of a little bit of a spin off from Ben's Sports Talk. So did you ever have the actual host on your show or is it just people that are associated with the show. Yeah, so at the moment, it's just people associated with the fan base. But I do have you know, I've invited Ben, but I want to and I've said to him, I want to save him for like a milestone episode or whatever, because that's a big deal. You know, he's the main event. He's

the guy that we all follow. So yeah, and then other members of his crew, like his producers and update guy where Yeah, we're going to have those guys on as well, which obviously we expect they will be the higher downloaded episodes. But yeah, look, we've got a decent

little following for a startup podcast. You know, the fan base has got on board, and we haven't promoted it, you know, massively yet, so I think, particularly once we can get ben On and the other members of the crew, I think more of the listeners will start jumping on board and and yeah, we can sort of make it this big fan base run podcast sounds good to me, and we'll promote it more at the end of at

the end of the interview. But you say you like American football in Australia, is it called excuse my stupidity, is it soccer there as well? Or is it I mean, do you do you play it is soccer? Okay, yeah, I don't understand that at all, because do you do you actually play soccer with a black and white ball? Do they have that sport as well? Yeah? Yeah, no, Sorry, sorry I misunderstood your question. So the American NFL is it's just American football to us, we just called it

American football. Soccer or you know, as most people call football. Soccer is soccer. What you guys call soccer, we call it soccer. We have our own version of football, which is Australian rules football. Okay, so that's what that's what we call football. If we're if an Australian says to you, I was watching the football, but they'll probably say the footy because we like to shorten words. But yeah, football right, yeah, And so yeah, if if Australian says to you they're

watching football, that's most likely Australian rules football. Okay, And what team are you into from America? What is your team? So I'm a Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan. Unfortunately. Yeah, look, it hasn't been great for me because I picked him as a kid. I jumped on the bandwagon when it

was Emma Smith and Troy Aikman and Michael Irvan. So I was like eight, no what the first one I was nine years old and it was the first game of NFL i'd ever watched, was the was the Super Bowl with the Cowboys and the Bills the first one, and so I just picked the Cowboys in. And then the second game I ever watched was the following Super Bowl, which was again the Cowboys winning it. So I just

be came a Cowboys fan. But I didn't really start following it heavily until about twenty ten, and so my entire time like actually following it week to week the Cowboys have. You know, they've made the playoffs a couple of times and not really gone anywhere. So I haven't really enjoyed any of the Cowboys success. Like I wasn't really a fan back then. I was just picking my team. So since I've been, since I've been an actual fan, I haven't got to see any success for the Cowboys.

So you know, you can, you can take pleasure in that if you like. Yeah, well, I'm from Philadelphia, so the Eagles Cowboys rivalry is real and I just can't. I can't get behind them at all. But you know, you like who you like. That's no. You don't get me wrong. I hate the Eagles. That's fine, which you know, which is ironic because my Australian football team is the Eagles. So oh is it? Okay? Yeah, okay, it's funny how

that works. It's so weird to me, like anybody that doesn't live in the United States, there's so much of a fan base for American teams, American products like and I don't see like I see a lot of Americans rooting for uh. I think it's the soccer, Yeah, like

they like that. That's the only thing that I ever hear, and I'm always like, do these other countries have like megastars or like television personalities, because I always hear people from other countries talking about you know, like the the Brad Pitts and the Jennifer Aniston and all these American stars.

And when I watch reality shows, they pull Americans to be on their products as well, and I'm like, where are all these British stars, Where are all these Australian stars, Like everybody comes back to the United States for stuff, and I never understood that, Like don't you have people that you guys like that as from your homeland instead of America. I think a lot of it comes down to just exposure and getting exposure and you know, and

hopefully you know, drawing in more ratings, et cetera. Because at the end of the day, like the US is sort of the mecca for entertainment, movies and television all that the best produced stuff comes out of the US.

So I think anyone that wants to be successful wants to do something in America at some point, you know, like the famous Australian actors, you know, the ones you would have heard of, are the likes of Hugh Jackman and Chris Hemsworth and these kind of guys that have you know, actually made it successful in the US and then got major roles in the US. If they'd never done that, you would have never heard of those guys. Probably not, But I agree with you on that. Well,

your podcast downs pretty fun. I feel like to Get My Go thing, from what I understand of it, the one gentleman that they were kind of going at deserved it because he's from what I was told, he's kind of a jerk, so he deserved it. So, like you said, I don't think it's mean spirited at all, but I still don't understand the concept completely because I haven't listened to a full episode yet, So I need to. I really need to come on as just yeah, I do.

I really need to come on and experience it, because I mean, Chad's in love with you guys, and he talks about Get My Go so much, and I'm just like, God, why don't you just leave me and go to them full time? Like he just loves you to death. So I'm intrigued, and I say this all the time, but the schedules just don't work out. So we have to find a happy medium, because I would love to one day join you guys, and I wouldn't know what the hell you're doing, but I'd like to be there and

experience the whole, you know, the vibe. We definitely, we definitely need to because I've I've got clips. Well I'll have to search through my my database and find the right ones, but I've got clips of certain people saying unkind things about you. And I asked that and Chad was like, no, no one ever talks about about you. I'm like, dude, I have haters probably since we mentioned that, Well, what have I done in the last not even what you did. It's nothing that you did. It's guild By Association.

And I think what it was was was they were watching a TNA show, so obviously you know, your couple of weeks in TNA was their sample. I don't think they've ever covered ECW, my four my four shots in TNA. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I was Chad's correct. They were doing a TNA watch along and and you you came on screen and yeah, as I just said, it's Gilby association. Like because Chad

is such a horrible, mean person that says these horrible things. Now, because you're associated with him, and Shane Douglas is associated brought down by the old chadst Rooney. Well, here's what here's what needs to be done. Then whoever is the mastermind has to pull all those clips. And I'm going to probably cry because I don't like criticism and it hurts my feelings, but I'll do it because I think

it might be fun. There's the thing about the thing about the criticism is you wouldn't get bothered by it because it's it's just such incoherent drivel that you would just be amused that they're even attempting to even attempting to insult you when they're It makes all of those podcasts that just pop up out of nowhere, you know, and not even not I'm not talking about energy, but I'm talking about guys that just want to talk about wrestling.

It just makes you say, why why are you doing this? Yeah, but it'll still make me cry. It will not make you cry. I'm very sensitive. You've got a promo you will tap into your inner queen of extreme. First of all, you can't listen. I learned this over time. I cannot change opinions of other people about myself. Right, I'm learning. Every day, I learn more and more. And Paul Hayman said it best. He said, for every one person who doesn't like you, or doesn't find you attractive or hate

whatever you do, there's a hundred who love you. And I came back and I said, but the one person is the one I'm thinking about, honestly, because that's what sticks in your head. It's that one little asshole that you can't get that says something and you can't get them out of your brain. So if I hear this, no matter how trivial or how stupid it is, I'll probably cry. But that's good, you know, radio or podcasting, So your ratings are gonna go way up. Right, I'm

gonna get mad. When I get mad, I get these guys fired up. And when these guys get fired up, well, I mean, you know, I've taken on a different role as it relates to your career, I guess. And I've told you before where I got offended by somebody saying something that did and you didn't talk about that, but you didn't think it was as bad as I thought it was. I was like deeply offended by it. We were like, oh, that's exactly what you said to me

was what you just said. Now it kind of hurts, but what am I supposed to do if if somebody, if I'm not somebody's cup of tea, then so be it. You know, what can I say? I'm not going to fight them to make them love me. But then how can I do that? Then you see these two like pod people that are watching these shows, watching the Bikini Battle Royal and critiquing, I mean, come on, what can I say? I mean, look, I here, I'm inviting myself

on the show. You just need somebody to pull these clips and give me an hour and I'm either going to be very sad or very feisty. Hopefully I could be feisty because my skin is getting thicker as I get older, and you know, but it still hurts. It's still sad. I think fasty is more likely. Once again, I just don't think these idiots could offend you, and that that'd be my advice, and that's always my advice

to people is most people are idiots. So find the people that you respect, and the people that you respect you listen to their opinion. Anything else is just noise. And you know what I'll do it forget my Good, but we need to do it for Patreon too. I've thought about that that maybe the episode should be on our air wist. Yeah, but they they're the ones that have the clips, right, we don't have this the clips, but bring them on our airways so we can post it and get the results. We can do it. Maybe

we can share the episode. That's even better. Idea about we how about we collab and we do an eyes up here get my Go spectacular and can go there. Yeah we can. We can promote each other. How about we could do something like that, right, that's allowed. Look that I mean, Mike Urban is a shrewd businessman. So we'll say Mike and I are like this, we're we are we are two peas in a pod. So I think that if you pitch it to him, I think

he'll be all for it. So that I will do that because I I am not that diva that can't uh shit on herself so to speak and pull out my flaws and not not literally, not literally, I didn't mean it that way. Just you know, I can admit that there are people who despise me. I know that, and I'm not I'm not above listening to it. Let's bring it on. There's a lot of men that a lot of men that would pay you good money on

only fans to shoot on yourself. Well, I didn't mean it, Like when that came out, I was like, I used those are the wrong words, but I'm not like just you know, and that what only thing? They didn't they ban shitting on only fans, didn't they. Well, I'll tell you what I had. I had a little stint on only fans when COVID hit, you know, because I was trying to you know, my bookings were non as everybody nobody was allowed to travel, so there were no bookings.

So I said, well, let me try this only fans because I researched it and I sold that there were like painters, gymnasts, there were people not doing nudity. So I said, oh, well that's perfect because I've never done nudity. So I'll go on there and I'll just put like a cute pictures up. And well that didn't work out for me because everybody wanted to see me naked and people were just mad and you know they hate mail ensued and you need to do this, this and this

and blah, blah blah. So long story short, I did a Halloween photo shoot and it was there was fake blood in it because like I was a zombie nurse and I had like a remember those they were very good. I had a syringe sticking out of my head with the blood and all this stuff. And then I did a Michael Myers shoot where he stabs me and I had the blood like all over my chest. I get an email from OnlyFans. They're saying, and I quote, you cannot use fake blood on the site, but fisting is appropriate.

And I said, but specifically said that fisting specifically specifically came into this. I said, good lord, something that sexual is going to be okay, but a little fake blood on my chest on the wall is awful. So anyway, the only fans didn't work. So only fans will allow fisting, yes, but no fake You can't have like big blood syringe in your head or a knife or for Halloween because

that's over the top. Now, how do you get that job where that's what you're doing for your like looking be like, okay, uh, fisting, that's fine, shitting, We'll let that one go. Oh my god, fake blood, fake blood flag craziness. And then one day I put up a picture I don't know, I put up a set of pictures of myself and then you get, you know, the men who comment, and one guy goes, can you look at picture number five? And I go, sure, look and it's a dude holding his penis. Why go to bed?

And I go, that's not me. I was hacked and some dude put all of his penis pictures on my f I was like, oh my god, what is going. I'm not an only fans person. It just it didn't work out. It just didn't. Oh, it was just not for me anyway. That was my little stint. How did we even start that? Only fan? Oh you said to poop when somebody would be fun? Yeah, I don't know if they do that. I've never done that, so it's not my cup of tea mt Oh, yes, yes they have.

I think two. I think I got two people that asked me to do that. Once in ECW, I got a fan letter. He was gonna pay me five hundred dollars and he wrote the word scat. He kept saying scat. And you know, back then, we didn't have like or we didn't have iPhones, so I couldn't. I didn't know what scat was and I couldn't google it or look it up or whatever. And I remember being in the in the locker room. No, we were ringside and we

were all hanging out for the show. Christian York comes walking by and I told him what happened and he goes, that's poop and only I didn't know what scout was. Awkward, that would be yeah, very but five hundred bucks, that's it? Come on, and that was my game back then. That's insulting at least give I was gonna say it's at least five grands worth of exactly, but you know, it didn't happen. So anyway, this conversation got really shitty, really, it really did. This one has perhaps what would you

like to promote today? Talk about that podcasting and what's the name of it? We need more listeners. Yeah, Mallattown is my podcast and yeah check it out. It's look, it's a bit, it's a bit of a niche thing and if you if you don't follow the band Malo show, you probably wouldn't understand what's going on. But we have had some people come over who I get my go listeners who have come over and tried Mallatown and they've given me positive feedback and say that they're getting into

the show. So hey, you know, give it a go. Give it a listen Mallowtown on most of your podcasts, favorite podcast apps and of course get my Go on their regularly. Well what's out at the moment, Chad? What numbers at sixty four? Sixty four? I just well, whatever we recorded was like sixty I think five. So are they up to sixty four that's released? Yes, so survey says it's called episode sixty four sixty five. Yes, a sixty five and sixty six. I believe her in the

can so they're maybe they're on the way. You can not the shitter exactly. Yes, Well, and where can we follow you? On Twitter? Do you follow me? We need to follow each other. That's a good question. Actually I'm not sure if I do follow you, well, please do and I will. I will hit that follow button right back because I find you very charming. Well, thank you, Yes, this is my catchphrase part of the show. On Twitter, I am at that sassy guy. I just imagine that

Aussie guy and put an s where the ah should be? Okay? On it. Well, it was a pleasure getting today. We talked about sports. Hew him and I could never be because he's a Dallas fan. So I get here. I had to step away and make an emergency, but never work out. But I can listen to you talk all day. So it was a pleasure meeting you. And hopefully we can collab and get that episode because I really think that that both uh our listeners and your listeners would

enjoy me being dashed. Definitely. I really think that's the thing because you always hear people say, oh, she's so great, she's this, she's that. No, there, there's there's haters America and they're out there and we're we're going to find them and we're going to get to the bottom of this. So I'm ready. You could say anything a lot of people and now I'm getting mad. So I went from sad to feisty to now I'm mad. So I need to, uh, I need to listen to these people and get to

the bottom they go. She's got boobs. We've never seen what those look like before, so we okay, work on that. Dean, get back to me and let me know what's happening. Well, definitely make it happen. Thank you very much for having me on. Appreciate I will, I'll try. Thank you all right, then take care of yourself later, buddy. He goes back to Australia. Oh that voice. Oh I just I would just I could lay down and just listen to him

talk and it would put me right to sleep. I think if he told me his story, I would just be like, no, I know why you guys like the Wiggles so much, Oh so relaxing. I had a you know, I had a little crush on Greg Wiggle in the beginning, good looking man, and I love Sam Wiggle, the one that got kicked off. He had the opera voice. He came in when when Greg got sick. Sam, he's had a beautiful voice. He probably had one of the best voices. Okay, I'm thinking of Simon who no, no no, was the tall,

lanky red one. Sam was a yellow Wiggle. He took over for Greg. Greg got real sick. But then they kicked Sam out to bring Greg back, and it was a slap in the face because Greg didn't even know what was going on. I mean, Sam didn't even know what was going on, so he got bamboozled. I was mad as hell when I read about that I love

the Wiggles always. Well, we didn't bring it up. We didn't talk about the Yeah, that was like one of our first episodes, like ever that we talked about the Wiggles and you guys going to the Wiggles concert and like talking them outside or something. Yeah, we didn't stalk them. We just happened to see them walk by and we ran up to them and got a picture with them for my kids because they love the Wiggles. But yeah,

but I can listen Australian and uh, English people. I could listen to them all day now, even easier time understanding the Aussies than I do the UK people. Sometimes they talk really quickly and I don't know what they're saying, but the accent, it's just so. See, I've had him so that I feel the same exact way now. Dean and Hughesy, I can understand them really well, like there's no lack. Okay. Hughsey, I have a harder time sometimes he's Irish, Yes, he's Irish. Correct sometimes his dialect a

little bit. I kind of have to lean in and huh, I have to listen to you know, it's funny, but you realize that. Yeah, like Dean was perfect, and his voice, it's soothing. That's the word I have to use. Aussie's are soothing. I just I got to come on here with the Australian accent starting the next next show. I love the now. On the contrary, so like you said about the Brits, right, there's a guy on YouTube who does a series called Wrestling Bios, right, and he does

these very comprehensive biographies of different stars. He'll do moment scrap like that, and like you know, when I'm trying to do research for a show and I look for something, I see his stuff. His accent is so freaking thick. I can't watch it because I don't understand two words he's saying because he's he's talking so out and I'm like, what the figure you trying to say? Yeah, Dean, Dean has the perfect That was the like, his voice is

just the perfect, perfect accent. I wanted to close my I don't want to be too weird, but I just want to close my talk because and I do that, you'll see, well, I don't know if anybody will be with us next week, but when I do these conventions like the bigger ones where people come in from all over the world. Anytime I get an Australia guy or you know, a guy from the UK, I just go just talk to me for a second, and I just sit there and I just listened to the wall about

my table because I just love it. I love it so much. At the big event, we're going to be hearing a lot of Hey, what you want to do? You want to take a picture, you want to sign my autogram? No, I I welcome that as well, but it's not as sexy to me as the Australian accents. So you know, hey, I used to watch you on TV. You used to give me a bonu huh the size of the freaking Empire estate building. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. But I'm I'm very intrigued now about

all these haters that I have. We really need to get this done and put it on both platforms. So can you try and make that happen? Oh? I will try. Okay, my damn, let's do this because now I'm I want to know what was said. I hate that. I will say what people hate me. It's not as bad as I think he's building it up to be. There's nothing insulting at all. It's like they're just it's just as you're watching these two freaking marks in the middle of

the night, watching this TNA show. And that's the first thing you gotta remember is like, these two guys are sitting in there freaking underwear, are two different sides of the country. They're watching you, and they're going, is it just me? Or is it like no, it's they watched the bikini. Well is there enough content for an hour? I guess with Bantams, guys and me. I know there's a plethora of people, but it's one of those things where I'm sure they'll also be backstory'll be more context.

I mean, there's been times and the one episode that I point to is episode fifty three. It is the best podcast I've ever been a part of. I think we were supposed to record for like forty minutes and we did like two hours, and it was ridiculously. Maybe we can do something like that and get a two parter out of it, and uh, you know, we can get two episodes out of it. But I really feel like it could be something fun to do. Yes, it would be fun it would be what it would be

as fun. And if we imagine if we incorporate that with our drinking show too, Oh my god, let's do that. We can do that. So if we did, if we recorded one week on a Saturday where when I don't have work and we just do it on a Saturday evening and we have cocktails, I can do something like that. Maybe yeah, maybe? Okay. Well I recorded with the Joe and Mike on Sunday night, like emergency recording. I was knocking back a couple claws while I was shooting the breeze.

So pretty easy when you check, when you're check, see what you can figure out. All right, Well, let's talk about Patreon this week. Okay, So we are going to welcome one of our Patreon members, James. He will be coming on all the way from now. See we have from Australia and we talked about Hughsey and Ireland, but

now we're going to the UK. So James, let's see how your accent holds up to the uh holds up to the discussion, right, Okay, Well, yeah, I've interacted with James several times, but I don't know if I've ever heard him talk so that's another one. I get to close my eyes and just listen to So that'll be fun. That's true. Now here's the discussion. Now, this could be

a short discussion, this could be a long discussion. I just want to ask you some questions because with Cody leaving AW and all these changes and people not negotiating well with WWE and leaving, I want to talk about wrestling politics and helmets that factors into maybe a decision of staying, going maybe wanting to change things. How you navigate through it? Is it hard? YadA, YadA, YadA. It's

a great topic, definitely. I don't know if we've really covered it in depth before, but we're gonna do it today. There are politics in every organization, every locker room, and yeah, I mean it's interesting. It's interesting how people handle themselves when this kind of stuff comes up, because you know, nowadays you hear about it. Back then you didn't because we didn't have the internet, and you know, we had

the sheets, but half the time they were wrong. You know, we can dive into this and I can keep you mind my two cents worth expertise. Yes, and then we're going to watch something you weren't a part of you weren't even in this company, but I just thought it was weird enough where you maybe have never seen it before. But I would like to get your your impression of it. It's one of the more controversial moments in wrestling history. Okay, okay, Katie vic I've seen Katie Vick. You've seen Katie Vick.

When was the last time you watched it? It probably wanted air. Okay, it's really weird. Yeah, very very odd. Okay, So we're gonna watch this and we're gonna get your take on It's just something different to to switch it up a little bit. Some might say this was the low point perhaps, uh. Some people say this maybe was the end of attitude because it went from being a little risque to being like absolutely ridiculous. Okay, right, we're going to talk about it and see what you think

and would you take part in it? Well, I don't know about that. Okay, So that that's Patreon this week. If you're not a member, I suggest you become a member. You know what people really don't know too about this Patreon deal is you can d M me and you could d M Chad as well. I don't think people understand this because there's a lot of times where I will send messages out and I don't think people check their do, you know, I don't get replies and I'm

just like, oh, this is really odd and strange. And so I have the discord. We have a private DM. We have all these watch alongs that we do. The opportunity to come on as a guest on a you know, on an extra, the opportunity to host this show, not just come on for ten minutes it's but actually hosts the show and pick the topic that you want to discuss. So many options. Patreon dot com, forward Slash Francene podcast is the address, and I would love to have you

as a member of our family. And something that is coming up for Chad and I which we have to talk about really quickly, is the big event. Yes, because when this episode airs, it will be the week of correct it. It will be Saturday. It will be yeah, so we will Friday night for K and S. We will be well, I will be Chad will be probably sitting behind me somewhere lurking. But Facebook Live what that lurking in the shadow? Yes, yes, Facebook Live. We still

don't know the time. I'm assuming it's either I don't know, six seven o'clock something like that, but that will be this Friday, So go over to the K and S Facebook page for more information. And the Big Event twenty one is coming up. I don't know the exact address, do you, Jack, Yes, I absolutely do. It is that Terrace on the Park, fifty two to eleven one hundred

and eleven Street in Queens, New York. The four point Sheridan where it is in Terrace on the Park Actually, and I found this out, was one of the hosting hotels for the World's Fair in nineteen sixty four. So not only is it going to be the home of the big event, it's of a historic venue. And the four point Sheridan is thirty three sixty eight Farrington Street in Flushing, Queens, right in the shadows of City Field.

And we will be there our times for that, I'm not even one hundred percent sure on what we are. The convention is ten to two. I am assuming we will be there ten to two the whole time, will be there the whole time from ten to two, Yes, so that's what we'll be Okay, Well, that sounds good. I'm looking forward to meeting everyone having done I don't believe I've done this. What was it maybe five years ago? Five years? It was about five years ago, yep. So

haven't been in this area in five years. So if if you're, you know, in the area, please come by and say hi. I would love to see you. Yeah, since Ataman, your action figure was released, your micro Brawler was released, so there's a lot of like new stuff out there that you've had that people haven't gotten signed in this area and New York. It's and it's right

like outside LaGuardia Airport. So that's another reason why people come to the show because it's right there, and I might have a few of those items that you mentioned for sales. So yeah, come see me. Very nice, all right, Well, if you want to follow me, it's at Chad E and B on Twitter, on Instagram, at IB Exclusives below theecollar dot com slash IB Exclusives for the Chad Sar T shirt. I would love for you to buy one. It would really mean a lot to me if you could.

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