Eyes Up Here: Bill Alfonso

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know by now. My name is Chaden. Every single week we are joined hereby the one and only the legendary, and we know this because we've watched a career reperspective on her, the Queen of Extreme Francine, who would have funk it? Hello everyone, and I apologize for my my voice. I got the bottom braces put on and I am a wreck. They are horrible. You can see them if you're on Patreon. Look at this, this mess that's going

on in my mouth. I can't even stand it. I'm over it already and I probably have another year ago. So you know, we were doing reads for some new sponsors and I couldn't even say certain words and it's just it's a mess here. So I do apologize, but overall, Hopefully I'll have really good teeth in a year, so

we'll see what happens. You've gotten better as the recording has gone on, But that was I felt bad for you when we first started talking because I could tell and I know, I saw the tweet and I knew you were going and I forgot as we sat down, but you could tell that you were. You had to work through those issues in the first couple of all. The pain is so bad. The pain is so bad, and it's like it's they're cutting my whole bottom lip.

The thing kept popped the one spacer thing kept popping out, so we had to like cement it down and push it down. He got me with his hook. He scraped my whole upper roof of my mouth with the hook and all I heard was sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, And I was just like, listen, you son of a bitch, stop killing me. So I have like forty two cuts in my mouth right now, and I have wax in

there because there's certain parts that are sticking out. Then I went to go feel if I had a piece of food in the other day, and I cut my finger open from the frigging metal because there was a wire sticking out and I cut my finger and I was bleeding. So I just wanted to apologize. I know you're probably all sick of hearing me out these frigging teeth of wine, but god, it's becoming a pin in the airs and half me witches. I never did this before, you know, so I don't know. It better be worth it.

I should have just got Veneer, even though they would have cost me twenty grand extra. I should have just got the freaking vineers put on. Yeah, it's been funny, like how it's been. It's been over a year, right since she got it. It's seven months, that's it. I got them in June. Oh, I thought it was earlier that day. It was like a long time. I got them at the end of June last year. And you know, they had to wait to put the bottoms on because

the overbite I would have bit the bottoms off. So now they're super low to the bottom and they just are ridiculous. So anyway, my essence are very bad. So you know, we we did our Twitch stream last week and we were talking about the the Chelsea Green wearing the Inspired for sixty nine. Again. I just wanted to bring it because it just as you're trying to rile me on. Oh I'm not no, no, I just this

is interesting. So she wore it again right, this time on like spandex top for whatever match that they were in. They were at Hammerstein, right, we had just talked about hammer Signed during our watch long but you know, I just thought this was kind of funny. So the first night she wore the four sixty nine, our buddy Mike Durband was at the show in Chicago that they were performing at, and Mike bought Matt Cardona's tights from that

night and was on his major Wrestling Figure blog. And I just see this tweet as you're talking that popped up. Matt Cardona has concept art for the tights that he sold to Mike Durband who bought them, and he's wearing the four sixty nine shirt, and it's just it's kind of funny how the two worlds wrap around each other. But yeah, she did wear it again. Went to you again. Of course she paid tribute. Fight TV were the first people to say that Chelsea is a modern day Francine.

So I retweeted that because I was mentioned obviously, but you know, I guess she is, because you know this is going back over twenty years or so. Yeah, and it's flattering. You know, it's flattering. And I think I said it before. I think Chelsea is a great talent. She has a very bright future head of her. I think she's only like thirty two or thirty three years old something like that, so she's got a lot of years left to do this. And you know, I wish her the best. But I will say until I die,

I am the OG. So don't mess with me. Oh double g that's right. Yeah, we're going to touch you. That's right, mess with me. But now she's doing great and I'm very happy for her and Matt so good stuff. Yeah, very fine. I just thought Mike Derban bought the tights, and there Mike Derby, and why don't you buy my free if he buys a Chelsea for sixty nine? Im Mike, I am going to say it right now, I will consider you a trader. Ooh, you can only wear my shirt,

which is sold on pwt's by the way. Interesting now, he bought the tights because they were Chicago inspired, that's why. And Mike's from Chicago. Yeah, so they're one time only whare of Cardona, who is like reinventing himself in such a major way right now? Well, Mike, I think I came up with the Francine four sixty nine concept when we were in Chicago. So that means you to buy that's true, true, story true. It might be true, it might be false. I don't know. I don't remember, but

we'll go with it. Oh my gosh, Well what else? So the braces seven months, the four sixty nine, you're getting ready to go on your big extravaganza trip very. I started packing for myself, my two children, and my mom because my mom is gonna, you know, be at my sister's and so I'm packing for four people. Thank god, Hubs packs for himself. But I filled three suitcases already

and I'm still not done. Damn, I'm not done. And my husband goes, oh, just pack for a week because we do have a walk sure and dryer in the room, and I I go, do you even know me? A week? There's no way unpacking for a week. I have a different outfit for every single day that we're there. So I have no room left. I don't know what I'm gonna do, and I'm praying that the suitcase isn't over fifty pounds. So I said. What I did was I weighed myself and then I stood on the scale holding

the suitcase to see what the difference was. The kids came in at under forty. I think, so that's pretty good, but I'm still not done packing a laundry lot to do me? Is it a ROI cart? Uh huh? Okay good. You need to be all Disney too. I wouldn't have expected it any other way. Now, are you going to like U? Do you make any combinations for shirts purchase while in Disney? No, because we don't purchase stuff in Disney. Oh, you don't purchase any ok completely overpriced? If anything? If

we do well, we usually don't. But if do you see some thing, we'll look it up while we're there. We'll see if there's like a better price for it, and then we'll usually order it when we come home. The only thing we usually buy there is ornaments from the Christian Yes, that is what we did last year too. Well. I bought a shirt, but we bought the ornament as well. Yeah. No, I would really have to love the shirt to buy it at the park, because they will rob you. Yes

they will. It was twenty It was thirty two for a yellow retro style Walt Disney World. Yeah, sure, you get it for twenty two dollars one, you know Amazon or something. I did buy ears from Amazon for ten dollars, which a lady makes them. They would be thirty dollars in the park. I bought mine for ten. They're beautiful. They're absolutely beautiful. And I bought my daughter scrunchies with ears on them because she doesn't like headbands and she wears a ponytail, so I can put the scrunchy with

the ears. They're adorable. Ten bucks for two. I mean, you can't go wrong. Can't beat that. No, no, Yesterday I ordered off of the Amazon three T shirts for my son All Star Wars Tame nine for three for three Trey Well t shirts are you know, out of season. So that's a good deal. You know, check it back in the summertime. You'll be getting one for twenty two ninety nine. Well that's why I bought them for for

now for three, I know what I'm doing this. My first read it The Thrifty Disney Spender, starring the Queen of Extreme You know, I'm there for fifteen days. It's not like it's a ten dollars trip here. It's a lot of money, so you know, you cut corners when you can. I've been watching every food vlog available. I've been looking at every menu. I know exactly what I'm going to order it every place that we go to. I am so I don't know if I'm going to be able to eat it because of my teeth, but

I'm going to try, so I'm ready. You know. I think I got a text from my uncle and he heard, you know you say that your trip was coming up. I think my aunt might be down in Disney World when you're there. Yeah. No, I think that I'll have to see if this was the weekend or not, because I can't remember when he texted me that, but I think you might be down there at the same time as my aunt. Well guess what Saturday's weather forty eight degrees.

I'm super old about that. Noo. Yeah, and I'm pissed because it's not a park day, so I was hoping we could go to the pool, but not in forty eight degrees. So we're gonna think of something to do. We'll probably go to Disney Springs or something. But I was like, you know, this weather sucks like it and then as the week progresses, it goes up to eighty eventually, but it's like forty eight. Come on, I mean, we're gonna miss snow here, which is a blizzard, I think,

but forty eight's cold, it's chili. Oh that's not good. Yeah, that's not what I'm thinking. Now we are potentially we usually go around spring break. Yeah, and it looks like we're going to be going in wait for it, wait for it, June. Oh god, yeah, oh god, you're gonna be sweating your balls off. It just works out. So, you know, with a lot of stuff that I've had going on, I'm not sure which the free weekends are

gonna be. So spring break is looking a little tight and a little dicey and other X factors that could be contributing to that. So we're looking at, okay, when would it be. So I was like, all right, maybe a Memorial Day weekend. And then I was like wait, and we're going back forth with my aunt about it, and we're like, all right, after the kids get out of school and Liz gets out of school, that would be the first free time. The end of June. I'm

sweating already. I'm telling you, we've done the summer never again. It is so freaking hot. The humidity is just so bad down there. You are going to come home and you are going to bitch the whole time you're there, and then you're gonna bitch the whole hour that we talk when you come back. I guarantee it, because that's how hot it is. It's hot. It's really hot. Now. I don't tend to really complain much, so I don't

know what you're talking. Oh, oh, not you, no, but no, seriously, that's the summertime in Florida is just if you're not a local, it's it's it's hot. And I was very uncomfortable, and my kids were a lot younger, and we were constantly giving them water because there it's a sin. They're just melting. They're just sitting there melting, and I'm just like, I felt so bad dragging them through parks and oh, good luck, poor kids. Yeah, your poor children. Oh my god.

I don't know why I'm doing this now, but I want to go definitely in this, like you know, in the anniversary year and right, no, I get that I want to check it out. And also so funny enough, my little one, my Bart Simpson in training, has sat down with me while watching The Simpsons. I think I mentioned this, yes, and she now wants to go to Universal to Springfield to see the Simpsons, so that might

be on the trip. Itenerary. Oh yeah, we discussed doing a day at Uni Russal, but the more we looked into it, I mean, if you just want to focus on like one section, but I know we would want to like go all over the place and a day is not enough, right, So I said to my husband, well, we're gonna have to do a second trip. We're just gonna have to do a Universal trip. Eventually he looked at me like I was insane, because you know we're

already going for fifteen days. But we played the Mega Millions last night and unfortunately we lost, so we won't go in the Universal this year, but maybe next year. I don't know. I'm so sorry to hear that you lost the Mega million two me too, because you would have got something. Oh whoa damn it, you're my friend. You would have got a little something. I would that would have been great. I'm sure you would have loved it, but alas it didn't happen, so so sorry about that.

But eventually, you know, one of these days I'll win and I'll be taking vacations left and right. Yes, you will. Your whole life will be a vacation. Oh yes, so, Jerry said, Cramer's whole life is a vacation. True. I just want to move there. I'm just you know, book me, people listening, book me, so I could move to Florida and get my down payment going. When do you? When do you hit in the trip the we have to

move down here conversation? Uh, day one. As soon as we get off the airplane, I look around the airport. I got I love in here. I mean here right now. It's my dream destination and it is also like a dream to I would just love to live there. Yeah, I love you know what it is. It's like for me, I love Disney so much and Disney Springs is my favorite place to be. It's like if we live down there, and you know, one night I had a hanker in for I don't know, Mexican. Let's just go to Disney

Springs and walk in. There's there's so much to do and you don't have to pay an admission to get in. There's a million restaurants, there's just a bowling aliat a movie theater, like you don't have to leave that area. You could do whatever you want. And it's just there's nothing around here like that. No, no, And I love theme parks and I would get an annual pass to every single theme park in the vicinity that I lived,

and I would just want to flog. Well, if you were to log and you were to go to visit every theme park, would you bring this gentleman with you a little added spice. Look at that handsome man blowing smoke in my face? How dare you? Hey, daddy, look at you? You look wonderful. This is Fonsie. Everyone. Bill al Fondo is here, and everybody, thanks for having me on the broadcast for Anny. You look fantastic. I feel good. I feel good. I'm outside. I live in Tampa Bay.

It's a little cool here. It's like uh sixty eight or something. Rainy. Yeah, we were talking about that yesterday. I was telling Phonzie we're coming down soon and he said, oh, he said, I hope not soon. It's raining. No, but we're gonna be We're gonna be down there for a couple of weeks, so I'm hoping the weather gets a little more friendly. You know it will, right, Okay, So what are you doing today? You're walking around your your house?

I see, yeah, my office and show you guys some stuff that okay, all kinds of stuff that we can talk about. Oh wait, go back. Start with that picture at the top. Is that you? And yes it is. It's great you and Todd Gordon. Yes, okay, that's that's in Japan when we went Did you go away this? Yeah? I did? Why maybe I took the picture? Yes there, I'm there that Yes, absolutely you were. Okay, I just got some stuff that we can talk about. Course, and

before that, you know, I refereed for twenty five years. Right. Uh, let me show you one of my favorite pictures I see every day. Very nice. I don't even I don't know. It popped up on my social media one day and I made a copy of it and made it enlarge and singing in my office, thank you so much. It's me Fonzie on his wall. How cute is that? I think it's somebody gimmicked the picture because you were standing. Maybe they put us do you remember doing any graffiti, Yes,

I do. It was it was for you, weren't there, so of course they photoshopped you in. But that was for an ECW calendar that never got produced. Okay, I remember now, yeah, and that picture, that picture of me is everywhere. But I guarantee Fonzie was not at that shoot day. He didn't paint Fonzie on the wall. No Fonzi thing was not on the wall. But that's awesome that somebody did that. I know that. I love it.

So I like it so much. I've put in my office what's in fund We're going to go backwards, but I want to just discuss them. Okay, basally happened with you. So GCW had a huge pay per view this past weekend had Hammerstein and you and the Lovely Saboo showed up.

So can you tell us how that came about? Yeah, I worked for this company, you know, I think last year I worked forty weekends, which was cool in these you know they call them in these shows and convention and so on and so on in an appearance, and so I got lucky. You did about forty shows. Wow, at this company in the Ohio. I managed a guy named Matthew Justice. He's badass, he's hardcore, and so I go up there once a month to the last couple of years and work with him. And he's been working

with GCW. They said, hey, Fonsi, they brought up your name in GCW, so they wanted me to work a couple of shows for him, but I was already booked. So when they came up with Hammer Sign, I said, Dan, that'd be the perfect place because we ran there yep, so for me to make my debut and he's in GCW. That could have picked a better building and got a good reception. So they just called me and asked me to come in and sam bou and do the lights off, lights on. It worked out and you know it was

really cool. Oh I love it. Yeah. When I popped huge because I have the pay per view, but I didn't watch it yet, and then I heard that you guys were on it, I was like, damn, that's awesome. I love that. So I'm going to check that out probably this weekend. Very great on the plane if I need something to watch, so maybe I'll download it to my iPad and watch. It was a good show. There's a lot of guys you won't know, and there's a

few guys that you will know. Right when I do these indie shows, I meet all kind of young new superstars and they're all bad asses, but I don't know them and they all know us. But you know, yeah, yeah, do you ever come across We were talking about this before, like sometimes shame and I will walk into a room at a show and like people will look up and then they'll look back down. They won't even say hello, Like does that bother you? If that like, does that

ever happen to you? Because like we had just brush it off as Okay, they're young, maybe they weren't into ECW. They don't know who we are. Like I still walk around and shake people's hands because that was the way we were brought up, you know. When I came up in the business, I was taught shake everybody's hand, you know,

and that's what I still do. And I introduced myself and some of these kids don't even look at you, and it's like, well, it happens to me once in a while when I do one of the bigger conventions and one of the bigger names is there. Like recently, we did a show at the ECW Arena convention with Feinstein. They had big me a bunch of people there, and I think they brought in pain and Kane had a fucking line to go to his booth and it was

all people who don't know us. It didn't bother me, but I said, damn, I wish I was as you know over as he was, but he had more TV time and all that I'm talking, I'm talking about the boys.

I'm not talking about fan. Like when we walk into a locker room and it's an indie fed and we've never worked there before, right, and she like, you know, Shane and I will walk into the room and the boys will be putting on their boots or you know, their trunks were, and they'll look at us and some will run over and say hello, and others will just look and put their heads down, not even give us like the time of day. And I'm like, it's such a different like the way they come up these days.

I guess it's different than when I was younger, because I was taught you need to go around and say hello to every single person. I don't think that anymore, though, like you get it, would you get offended? Because I kind of just brush it off, like, oh, well, yeah, I'd brush it off because, uh, I don't work with these as all the time, and some don't know us. And they're all young, all the guys on the carter

from you know, eighteen to twenty five years old. Yeah, they weren't even born in the nineties, you know what I mean. So yeah, okay, some old timers will get mad, and then others just are like, who cares? You know, Yeah, I don't get out of mad me neither. Well that's good. I'm glad that you got your foot in the door with them, and hopefully they you know, they use you more. Yeah. I talked to I guess he's the owner, Brett. He was pretty cool, and he says, SFONZI, when it is feasible,

we'd love to bring you in. Of course, we're in California and we're drawn three hundred people, we yet fly in. But if we're doing big shows like we did at the Hammer Sign, they almost had three thousand people there. Yeah, and it was the pay per view, so it made sense. You said anything bigger would love to have you, and we like what you did. Thank you so much, and I love it. Got a warm reception, so it was pretty good. So I think I will be getting some

work with them eventually, right right, Well, that's good. So you said you had forty days last year during the pandemic, right, But we were off at the first part of the pandemic. Everything was shut down, and then it started lighting up a little bit and the show started happening. So I wear a mask everywhere I go. I've got both doses, and I got my booster and all that, so I feel comfortable. But I still wear my mask in the dressing room and stuff and try to be vigilant, especially

in New York City the other day. Right, So, but their show is running, the show running. So I did work a lot last year smaller companies. There's a company in Florida called CCW Coastal Champshire Wrestling. Gangarell is one of the teachers at their facility, and I worked with him a lot, okay, twice a month at least. And I worked for that ai W John Thorne Cleveland once or twice a month too. So between that and some upper just here and there, like at a toy store,

being saboul or whatever. So I got lucky last year and kept pretty busy. Yeah, that's a that's a forty is a lot, uh for the Yeah, I'll say at least forty shows last year. Oh well that's awesome. Bad podcast too, And I've been doing when when the pandemic kid, I went online and said, hey, I'm available for podcasts since nobody's doing any shows. And I got a I like seventy responses and I end up doing about twenty

podcasts in charge of a small talent feed. Sure you know, and they love it and we tell stories and so I did quite a few of those last year too. Now lucky, I mean the year before last year, Right, I did several I do you know, once a month or sometimes you're lucky somebody calls me. But I always ask my friends who come on here, And it doesn't have to be E c W based. Funniest story that you have in the vault that you can that you can share, because I know there's a lot of things

that we can't talk about in the air. Yeah about anything, but well, so many funny stories. It's hard to come up with one just pick one. Well, there's stories. I don't know if there's there are funny stories like me running over an alligator putting it in the trunk, and I had mood h Angelo Mosca all people who've never seen alligators, Roddy Piper. You know, they were amazed at the alligator. We thought he was dead, but I threw

him in the trunk. He was. The alligator was so big, and I readed a caddy because I had the guys with me. The alligator was so big he would fit in the trunk. I had to fold him up like a doughnut the fit them in the truck. But all I did was knock him out. When I hit I ran over and with the car ran over his head. So he was in a coma, selling in the drug Tell it Yeah. So he came alive. We had still two hours ago home and he started flipping around in

the trunk and they thought it was great. They thought he was gonna come through the backseat and you know and get the Canadian and Japanese kid. Uh, those stories like that. You know, he's so crazy. I saw we even talked about this. It might have been last year. I saw a video of you online and I meant to ask you about it. I totally forgot to ask you. It was you. It was you at an indie show in the parking lot, and I guess it was the

owner of the company if we watched it. Oh, we watched it kind of shoot with the guy you were saying you owe me like either it was one hundred and ninety nine or two hundred and ninety nine dollars. So this guy, this promoter guy, and this was this was around easy W time too. This that was a long time ago. It was Oh I just saw it. Yeah, it was. It's an old video. So I was working full time with you guys E c W and I had so this guy called me and wanted me to

do a show with him, an indie show. He called me about twenty five times. Finally I agreed to do a show with him, and he gave me a check at the end of the show, and of course the check was no good. And I tried calling him for a month and he wouldn't return my call. Was trying to get the you know, the check cleared or whatever, and so he was avoiding me. Finally I ran into him at in the parking lot and I had some words with him. It was pretty cool. I was mad.

Wait a minute, I was. I kept saying to myself, is this some work or shoot? Like? Cause I that was a shoot and that's not me. I'm pretty fucking cool. I never get mad. I don't give a fuck what happens. But you dove through the window as the guy was driving the car. Yeah, you're bad. You're not gonna leave, motherfucker. You're not gonna leave me, motherfucker. And you dove as he's driving. You went through the window. I was trying to turn this far off the move. It was crazy.

And you know the reason I was mad because he called me every week for two months to try to give me to do this show. And then when I tried to call him about the tech being mad, he never returned my call. And so that's what made me mad. When I see we had the video right now, because I would pull it up, I could pull up. Can we watch it real quick? George? Have you seen this recently? I haven't seen a reason it fi I swear to god. I I picked this apart on the show and I

was just like, is this a work or shoot? Is this an angle? I don't I thought it just happened like a month ago. When I saw this. It's hilarious and you were just you're big leaguing him and you're pushing him and then you dove through the window. And I can't believe I did that because the guy was big and I'm small. Yeah, but you were piped up, you were ready to fright. He probably would have beat my ass, but he knew he wasn't wrong for giving me a bad check. And all that was in the

circle of people. Yeah, that was a I didn't know anybody. Oh my god, it was so great. And that was like at a pub pool haul thing would have tournaments on Wednesday. And I went down to see a buddy of mine play and there the guy pulls up and I said, oh, hey, daddy, I got a bad check. Can you cat? Can you make me take good? And he was backing off, and hey, daddy, but you I don't know if it was one hundred and one hundred

and ninety nine dollars or two hundred and nine. Here it is, Oh my god, can we just watch this real quick? Yes, it's hilarious. We got to watch it here. I seen you in a whole different light. There you are? You are? Is there volume? There's no volume with it now. We can't even hear what he's saying. I mean, you hear what he's saying, but you can watch him see the action that he's about to do. Phonsie, I never laughed so hard man. And we stumbled on it too,

didn't we. We were we were watching. It was on Twitter. I saw it on Twitter and I pointed it out to you and I said, this just happened. I said, somebody screwing with Phonsie. And I don't like it. And uh, you know now that you say, I think that was a show that I was at, not the not the pool tournament thing, because look, because behind it looks like it's like a shopping center, So a pool thing we might make perfect sense. Okay, well, why do I got my jacket on? I don't know. I don't know either.

And there's there's a bunch of but there's a bunch of people like guys that look like they they're kind of workers, like indie workers. All right, is this the promoter right here? This guy in the Chrysler shirt. Yeah, he's bigger than me, right, yeah, but still he's not one of them. Yeah, you got his number, you're hitting him? Oh my god. And he didn't answer my calls for like a month. I call him every day. I said, hey, you know you're telling you Look, you're telling everybody back up,

back up. And now it's just you and him, and you're like ripping his shirt off. Look at this. I love this. I thought this was an angle for some like the show that was coming up, that you were gonna work with this guy. I literally thought this was a work. I wish I could work like that. No, that's the shoes. The best part is when you jump in the car. Didn't didn't he jump in the car. Ye, he's trying to drive off. He's trying to get away from me, and I said, you're not leaving until you

pay me, until you cleared his check. And what is he's saying to you? What's his excuse, I'll get back with you. I don't have the money right now. Whatever. See, like there's so many people standing around. It led me to believe there was some kind of indie show going on. Look there you are, you're in the car. Look we're in the car, and there he goes he's trying to drive. You're God, it's about time one of these guys gets there. Come up, and so all the ship promoters out there

that say. No, that's an ugue because all the shows, the forty shows I did last year, thirty eight, thirty ninety, they always take care of you have never been stiff, right, Yeah, I know. So it was a whole point. That's why I was, man, Oh my god, we don't have to watch the whole thing, but I just I love when you jove in the car and he just pulls off and you're bossing this guy's white ass sticking out what's up? Oh so you don't want to see this guy's white

ass sticking out of his pants. Now he has no shirt on. I think I ripped it off. Yeah, you probably did. Oh my god, this is just so funny. I feel bad now a little bit. Did you ever get your money? No? I never seen him after that night. I never tried to call him. What is the fucking lesson learned? You know, breast on him? This guy, jeez, he's trying to explain. I mean, he's telling you what's going on, but you don't found the new Chubby Dudley

right there. Oh god, I just wanted to show the part where you're in the car because that's my favorite part of the whole video. All Right, daddy. I loved it. So what do you want to talk about? Do you want to talk about how you got into business? Do you want to talk about what you're doing now? Totally up to you. I don't mind talking about. What I'm doing now is having fun. I've just turned sixty four last year in August. I'm in good shape. There's not

an ounce of fat on me. Look at that. Anything I do is smoke a little popolo and then I feel pretty good. I do indie shows, yeah, convey sins and stuff like that. During the week, I'm relaxing. I'll play golf. You know, never had no time off. I've been in the business forty two years, fright, I know it, and worked for all the big companies and worked full time. So you don't look at day over forty five? Mind? Well thanks day. Yeah, I'm telling you. Look at that.

He saw his hair on his head. I mean I see a lot of guys at the show. I see Shane Douglas, I see I'm with Sadman. Let's see the first Saturday, Friday and Saturday of February next, you know a couple of weeks, okay, in South Florida. I see him quite a bit. I talked to Todd Gordon all the time. He turned on Hello, because I haven't seen tot in a really long time. I will, I will. I'll text him later and tell him he's sort of work. He's writing a book right now. I was in a

process of writing a book. Oh special interesting. I was just with Sandman and Shane. We did an appearance in Nashville and yeah, yeah, it was the three of us and we did we did a we did three appearances in two days. So we worked a virtual and then we did an in store and then we did the Tracy Smothers memorial show that they had for Tracy down there. Yeah, and it was Samman was so funny. Hack was like, you know, if it was twenty years ago, we'd be

sitting around drinking, smoking, doing drugs, blah blah blah. He goes, He goes, Now we're sitting around talking about our kids in school and what we what we do over the weekend with our children, and he goes, And I love this because we sat up till maybe well at one thirty, I tapped out. I was exhausted. But Man's so funny. I love him. He's one of my besties. Yeah. Yeah. I was with him at a show not too long ago, you know, last year, and I was looking at him.

He looked at his face looked a little different. I said, Sam, Man, are you fucking wearing makeup? He said, yeah, Daddy, I says, he put it on horrible. You know, you know how you put it on, perfect, beautiful. I can see the lines and shit I put on my face. I got bumps or whatever. Okay, cool, Oh my god, I loved it. We had. All we did was laugh because I haven't seen him in so long, and we just sat there and we laughed our asses off and there. We didn't

drink there, nobody smoked, nobody did anything. We were just we ate dinner and then we just sat around and talked for hours, and it was like it was so nice. It was so nice. And you know, when I see people like you or Salmon, or somebody on the road at the convention or whatever, and we haven't seen each other for a long time, it's like we never left each other. That's what we were saying. It was like yesterday we were in the locker room together, you know exactly.

I know, I know I miss everybody. I mean, I love my life now. But when like we do watch alongs on the show, we pull up old matches and like a little a little part of me. I'm just like, man, if we could just go back for one weekend and just have like a nostalgic weekend with all of us together,

how fun would that be? You know, Like I wouldn't want to do it consecutively because obviously I want to be with my family, my kids, right, But look, you're involved, you do the podcast, I'll see you on the internet on social media, different stuff, putting out tweets and all that. That's very cool. I like that stuff. I'm missing so much that we didn't do. I couldn't just stop. It's you know, it's like a drug. It's Nina, yeah, China and being you know, I'm still relevant to the business.

Not because I was a referee and I started in nineteen eighty with Eddie Graham and Andrea the Giant and Dusty and all them. I had a great career to work for Vince and WrestleMania's and WCW Ted Turner. Why I'm still relevant to the business and I get pops and they can sell a picture and all that is because of e CW, not because I'm a famous referee. You know. E CW really made my character, you know. Yeah, did you think because one of your first one of

your first gigs was roughing me and Beulah. You came in, you were the referee for our match. I was anti violand yes, I just left WWF. And the gimmick was Shane Douglas brought me in because he was anti violent. My whole gimmick was Paul Haman. I get a phone call from Paul ham and I just left ww F. In fact, I was still on Monday Night Raw because they would tape three Monday night raws. One was live, Tuesday was for the next Monday, and Wednesday was for

the following Monday. So we did three Monday Night rawls in a row and only one was last. So anyway, I was on for uh. Well, Paul Hayman called me. He knew I got I finished there, He said, panjak at this company called e c W. I said, what the fuck's in e c W? Because I never worked an indie show in my life, you know. He says, well, you know it was boy Hamen. We were friends for years. He said, I got this thing. We want to bring

you in, this anti violin with this violent company. We'll bring in for four weeks in nine one one a choke SLAMI And you done think you were paying you fly? You all that? I said, okay, boy Haman. So when I when I came in to be the anti ECW guy, and the people wanted to kill me literally because I was taking their fucking violence away tables the taiepaid death match. Yeah, it was crazy. So I ended up staying there till the company left, just twenty one pay per views with you?

Was there right when you were getting hot and you became a big ECW superstar? Well did you said initially it was a four week deal? Right? Your four weeks is up and you're getting over like crazy. Does Paul just say okay, just just come back again, or does he offer you like an extended deal like what happened? He ended up after night one one choked Slammy. He said, I guess he said to himself, Damn, Fanzi got so

much hed so shame to let him go. And Taz was just coming off with that neck injury and took some time off. So when Taz came back, Paul came and put me with tazt and and that work because Taz had like ten gimmicks before he became Tazz. He was like taz Mania, monkey boy or whatever. He didn't get over it until he became Taz, and then I never managed anybody. But it was a kind of a natural progression for me because I've been around the business

for a while and got looked good. And I didn't know how to do a promo really, because how many promos do referees do? Once in a while, you might say and belt out up or whatever. But so I was having trouble doing promos and Tom and poim Ha said just treated like a shoot. You know you're gonna be in Philadelphia on the twenty seventh, you know, so this type of mats. So they created a monster and

now on one take, Fonzie I like that. Every time we would get ready to appromo, he'd come over, all right, daddy, won take, here we go, you ready, let's go going one take and it was done and it was great, even if it wasn't correct. It was just that Bonsie character. Could you got? You were so like charismatic And I would pop every time because as much as that freaking whistle got on my nerves, I learned how to like drown it out and just look at you. Right afterwards.

I didn't even hear the whistle, right, it was just you. All I would see is you jumping up and down and doing and the whistle didn't even bother me. And every time I bring your name up, everybody's like, how did you deal with that whistle? And I'm just like it kind of just you get so used to it, but it be came like your theme. It was your staple. You know. I never blew a whistle in my life until because they put me with Cat. So Paul Haymon gets me whistles, here's your new gimmick. Just blow it.

So I was kind of like embarrassed to bow it. So the next week I left it at home and so Paul Jamer says, where's your whistle? I said, oh, I forgot it at home? So did they send somebody out to get me another way? BONSI, that's your gimmick? Then I got it. Then I got it. Yeah, then I got to. So now you can buy one at motel There you go, I shootel Joy's and buy one for twenty nine ninety five. That's great about kind shows.

You'll sign them at shows, right, Oh yeah, yeah, are you going to be doing like the Big Event or Wrestle Khan or any of these shows that are coming up to New York. The other day worked for the GCW Sunday and he asked me the same question. Said I wasn't no, he's gonna hold of me yet. He says, well, I know all the people. Will let me have your number and I'll call these people and see what. But I have worked that show before. I think I did

that show, and then Universal Wrestling Store Wrestling Universe. Yes, I did that and a podcast from Monty and Monty or somebody. Okay, like the same weekend or whatever. So we'll be in New York. What's the date, March fifth? March fifth is the Big Event, right, ye? Try to get on the Big Event because that's in New York. I would love to see you there. I will if I if I hear the whistle and then turn around and it's you, I will run over and jump on

you and give you hugs and kisses. Because I'm we're going to do an event this year. I think they're doing a couplet at the ECW arena if Einstein did one not too long ago. Yeah, I can't do the arena. Why because remember when I threw had my show when I was pregnant and you were own it. They stole five thousand dollars from me. They stole from the gate. Really, they stole the money, and they stole the show itself and sold it without my permission. Act people that I

can't tell. I can tell you who. I don't want to say names on the air. I can tell you who it is off off the air. But I have not been back since I was pregnant and my daughter will be thirteen, and that's the last time I was in the marina. Damn, no shit. Because I was wondering why you were because I never seen Beula on the road. I never hear heard you in social media or anything, but I see you on the social media. But I was wondering why you weren't at that building at the ECWRITA.

I forgot about that. So yeah, I won't. I won't go there until that period doesn't work there anymore. So you know, hopefully if I don't wish death on them, but maybe they'll move to another country or something and I can come back. I've been asked no, Lie by ten different vendors and by Rob himself, like to come in, but I just don't feel comfortable while that person's there, right, you know, i'd probably seen him the other day. Oh, you definitely seeing him. He definitely have seen them. He

runs a building. Yeah, I know there's somebody that's involved, and you know, you know it's funny, so that that's show in September School, I was with Caine that day. So I was behind the table looking at the mannas and I said to Rob, I said, you realize the line is going right in front of the table that you were at and saman was at. And He's like, yeah,

that's the only place we can put him. But I was like that such horrible placement because the line literally was right in front of where you guys were standing and I was in. I was a little annoyed about it right well, which was okay because he was there for just an hour or two and we were there all day, so it worked out we were the main We were the main event until he got there, and then when he got there, but the people that came to see him came to see him didn't come to

see Bonzi and Sandman. They came to see him. It's it's like the it's the w w F crowd exactly where it was. But all the E CW people who came to the arena for the nostalgia and see all the old guys like Means and uh bandamn and all that. We had no problem. We end up making good money for everybody, everybody in the day. But it was why Benson Kane is because he had that long fucking line

for two hours. It was like you couldn't even see it kept just going on and on and on, and but then Rob was right next to him too, so then Rob's was like in it was just a sea of people. Yeah, I was right next to Robin Katie right right. Well, where where is your next appearance? Like the very next one? My next appearance was Sandman January February fifth and six or sixth and seventh? Is that Friday? The first Friday and Saturday in Miami in Orlando? Yeah,

I'll be at the park, damn it. Okay, Well, and then who's that for? That's for Gangarell's group. Okay CCW Okay. They run all over the state of Florida now and they always have two or three shows a month. Awesome. Well, I hope you and I are together somewhere. I hope all of us we will. What's the at a convention? I hope so, I hope. So try to get on if you can the big event or wrestle Khan in Dallas, WrestleMania weekend, that's a huge convention. Try to get on

that one did last year WrestleMania conventions. They had a couple because it was in Tampa, so it was easy for the promoters. They have me there, no transit hotel, right, but uh yeah, let's see. Yeah, we got to get together. I keep telling everybody, like you know, a fran scene or a Fonsie is a drawl, but all of us together is like the main event, and that's what people want to see. They want to see a group of us together. So right, so when they add me onto

a show, I'm a good ad on. The people will love to see me. But I don't have that big drawn power. But if all of us got together one day, sand Man, everybody, uh Sabu would be very cool. I think so too. Well, I'm going to try to figure stuff out and work on stuff, and I will definitely keep in touch with you and hopefully we run into each other because it's been a long time since I've seen you in person. Yes, I don't even remember when

the last time we saw each other was. I can't remember either, but I see you every day when I come to my office. Well that was before my kids. When I see something that you post on social media, if I see it, I'll send you FONZI love you away. Yes, I know it's so cute, but you just have to remember that was before kids. I'm a little larger than I was before. You're still great looking, your beautif girl. I love you, Fonzie. Thank you so much for coming on.

And yeah, tell Todd I said hello, and Hackey and I want to see you somewhere, so we'll work on that. Yes, absolutely well, and if people follow you on social media, where can they find you? Oh yeah, yeah on Twitter at Alfonso Bill or Bill Fonzie Alfonso on everything else, Facebook and Instagram, And if you guys are interested in anything, I have tons of a X ten from nineteen eighty of me and Andrea Giant and me and bend am Zebu to me and Haul Kobean, so a lot of

cool pictures. Yeah, anybody's interested, or a whistle or whatever, or just let's say hello or kiss my ass or whatever. I love well, you look wonderful and I love just talking with you. And we'll do it again in the future. Really, if you ever get somebody who drops out on you and you need to fill in, call me. I will. I will. Thank you so much. I love you. Take care of yourself and hope to see you soon. Thank you. Executive producer also got it, Thank you, Thank you so much.

Nice to talk to you. Phansie. We love you, I love you, lovell Hey, Hi buddy, so cute. There you go, Daddy you just oh. I love him. I love him. I'm so happy he's doing well. They were like right to the side of us, and I was like, I said to Rob, I'm like, why is the line intersecting where they are? You can't get to them, And he was like, Oh, that's the only place we can put them. Yeah,

that's that's not good. But like he said, uh, they were there all day and you guys were there for a couple of hours, so if anybody wanted to get to them they would. Yeah. No, I agree, and I guess annoying as a talent to be blocked is it was like twenty feet away from me at one point, and I saw him like saying and he was looking at the line, and I honestly it was like subconscious where I was like, come on, yeah, yeah, but no, he's great. I had no idea he had that picture

of us on his wall. That's hilarious. A what a shot. I love him. He's a great guy. So I'm glad to have him one today. Well, this is this will be our last last broadcast in real time for a while. I'm headed off to the Land of the Mouse, so i will be recording for Patreon down there, and I'm going to be vlogging as much as I can. I still want to have a good time, so I'm not going to do like fifteen days of logging, but I'm

going to have a lot of content. I'll do some food reviews, we'll go on some rides, we'll walk around, and so we'll have a whole bunch of Patreon content when I come back. Nice. Yeah, And Francine and I have been working over the last three or four weeks of recording to add all extra content for the weeks that she's gone, we're not gonna be able to sit down, So you might see one or two retreaded episodes out there. But besides that, we have all new contents still coming

out while you're gone, and that's I love. Like, if we were gonna say go get her right, we will put your picture right under it because you were like, we got to get as much stuff done as possible, and we have restricted times and we still manage to get a lot of good shit in there. So I'm going to miss you for the like seventeen years you're going to be gone, and then those couple of weeks I have to sit in isolation waiting for you to come back. We've got a ton of stuff to still

put out. Yeah, yeah, U Plus you have your forty two other podcasts that you do, so you'll be busy without me, you'll be I'll be busy. But I love that, Like you know, we have so many like episodes we put out in a week. It's like, yeah, makes me look busier than I am, and we doing one shot. When you have people on your Patreon who are paying members, you don't want to distreat I know you don't want I never want to. We can throw an old episode near there, but we still have nine new ones coming.

Frank it out. Yeah, so we're recording a bunch of stuff today for you guys. That's why I'll probably be in this shirt for the next three weeks. But that's why we're getting it all done. So you know, I will miss everyone, but I will be back very nice. Patreon dot com, slash Francine podcast. If you would like to follow me, It's at chat emb on Twitter. It's at IB Exclusives on Instagram. Website is ibexclusives dot com.

All my private signings going on underneath the IB Exclusives umbrella are presently sitting on that website where you can get a ticket to sending an item for William Shatner who has a love Captain Kirk. But I also I didn't pull it up, but March fifth, I will be with the Queen of Extreme. We will be in New York at the Big Event. You can go to Big Event and hy dot com for all of the information where the hotel is if you need to get a room so you can attend if you're traveling from out

of town. It's all on Big Event and why dot com. Do we know the rates for that hotel? I do not know, but I mean I would assume get on there quick, because you know the look we need, we need a well we'll have a different location. But no, it's going to fill up. They just announced a couple of their headliners and the show is so massively attended. It is probably the biggest East Coast convention that you could go to. So if you're a wrestling fan, come

on out, come to New York. I'm excited. I haven't been there in a while, so it's gonna be fun. And now we're going to recording content there too. Yes, yeah, we are, yes, excellent. Okay, Well, if you want to follow me across the born at social media, you can find me at ECWDVA, Franccene and Pro Wrestling Tease go and get yourself a shirt, preferably the Francine four sixty nine shirt, the og original shirt, or any shirt for

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