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one and only, my great good friend. Very happy to have her on to talk to her today, the Queen of Victory. Fancy, Good morning, Good morning, very long intro for you there, Sorry it was very long. I thought the show was over by the time you had done. Yes, So how are they Francine, It's been a minute since you and I have seen each other. Yeah, we haven't really talked much last week. I haven't really wanted to talk to anyone this week. I did a lot, a

lot of text messaging. A lot of damning has been going on. So for for those of you who don't know Shannon Sproul Daphne, she committed suicide last week on September second, and I I you know, I talked about it on the last show. I just told a little

bit of the story. You know, I've been I've been sitting here last week trying to think of what could have been going through her mind, like at that the final moments, if you go back like a month, that was our actual like the longest conversation before she died, right, and it was a good one. It was a good one. We would have conversations and some days they would be great and I would let her know, this was a

great conversation. You made me very happy today. If it was a sad conversation, I would always end it with you know, I'm always here for you. I love you. A lot of crying would happen. This one, there wasn't much crying. She had just started working for a elderly couple as a caregiver and the gentleman that she was working for was kind of starting to lose it. She wasn't sure if it was dementia or Alzheimer's, but the wife, I believe they were in their seventies and the wife

still worked. So Shannon took on a lot of the responsibilities for the gentleman, and she would also help the wife, like if they needed to pack for a trip, get his medications, take him to an appointment, stuff like that.

And she was spending a lot of time with this gentleman, and it was filling a void for her because she was so lonely and she had friends like she you know, she had me, she had other girlfriends, but none of us lived near her, so she was always alone, right, And she was thinking about moving in with this couple, and because they offered her a full time position and they said, you can, you know, live with us, and her situation at the time, she had a roommate and

she was living in this big house, but gentleman who owned the house wanted to sell it, so she wasn't sure where she was going to end up. And she was on edge about that because she's like, you know, where am I going to live? And all this stuff. So I found a sense of comfort that she had this couple wi over her, so to speak, and she was finally going to have somewhere stable to live. She wasn't going to be bounced around. She had a steady

income for once, you know, seemed optimistic. She was scared, but she was also very optimistic. And I found a sense of comfort in that. And we talked about it at length, and she was very she was happy. She was she was it was a good day. It was it was a great conversation. She was very happy, and we always ended it with I love you, Chicky, I love you too. That's how we always ended our conversations.

And that's the last time we actually talked. And then life goes on, and two weeks went by and I realized, oh my gosh, I haven't talked to Shannon. And I called her and she didn't take the call, and she texted me back and she just said it's she said something like, it's very icky here. I'm not doing well. And I just said, well, when you have a chance, call me back and we'll talk. And that was the last message I got from her. And so another two weeks to go by. And here's the thing about Shannon

and my relationship. I know when she's having a good day, and I know when she's having a bad day. And when she used to have her bad days, I always gave her her space. I always because sometimes she didn't want to talk. And when she did want to talk, it would be constant crying. But I would just be either listening or we'd be on video and we'd just be there for each other, you know, And I would listen and it would be for hours, and she would

just sit there and cry. So I knew when I texted her if she didn't want to talk to me at this time, she would call when she was ready. And two weeks went by again she hadn't called, and I yeh like it was. It was a little strange because I would at least get a text message from her. I got nothing. And the day that Wednesday of last week, before I wait, hours before the IG thing happened, I shot her a text and I just told her I'm thinking about you, you know, and I want you to

know that I love you and whatever I said. And I don't even know if she read that, you know, that was like in the afternoon sometime. I don't I don't know if she read it. She never got that same day, it was, yeah, it was the same day before the IG thing happened. So it was it was like mid afternoon maybe something. And then that night I was just I was sitting, I was with the kids and we were just sitting, you know. It was like

I don't know, seven eight thirty something like that. I don't know what time it was, and I get a text message you have to go on IG. Shannon's on there, and I said, well, what is she doing? Oh, she's talking about killing herself. So I started to panic, started to panic. I started to shake. I couldn't even like tap the IG button like, I was shaking so bad. And when I got in there, I just I saw her. It was her, but it it wasn't her like it what I was watching just didn't. It didn't seem real

to me. It looked like she she had such a haze like her face just looked glazed over to me. And it wasn't the Shannon that I knew because I could. I always talked her down, always talked her down. And this time I watched, I watched the numbers go up and up and up. So people must have been saying, oh, Daphne's trying to kill herself. You know that. That bothers me so much because when that girl do a live

but she had eight people in there. I remember, I remember you saying that to me before were nobody watching her, And now because she threatens to kill herself, everybody wants to jump on board. Where where were all these people? Right? I mean we've joked about that, you know, we've joked about that too. I'm sorry I said we joked about that too, where you know, it's like you you you could put a call out, say hey, why don't you join me, let's chat, let's this, that nobody responds to it.

But something like this happens, and yeah, it was like the phone went nuts. I mean I was getting nine thousand text messages about it just to see what was going on. It was. It was unfortunate that exactly what you just said, do you go on live and would be would be eight people, ten people, and then this and it blows up. Yeah, there there was no And I'm not I'm not sitting here saying she didn't have

people who loved her. That's not That's not what I'm trying to say, right, No, understand, Iri to launch a YouTube channel. She tried to launch her Twitch channel, and she nobody watched her. And now she says, you know, she's talking about her lance ball and testament and the numbers like she had over thirteen hundred people watching her at her darkest hour. And so you know, I noticed

some of the boys were in there. And when I say boys, girls are included in that too, because you know, we were all frantically just typing and calling and her phone was going off. I mean I could hear I know, I know what her text message of sounds like, because I mean, she's been at my house several times. I've been in the room. I heard it going off. I heard it going I heard it ringing. I was calling.

So many people were in that room. I started to type in caps, and I know that's annoying, but I thought, maybe if I type in caps, maybe her eyes will say it. She'll say something, she'll realize I'm here. And she was leaning in and she was swinting, and she was reading, and she's like, oh, you're all y'all so nice, y'all are so nice, and that's all she said. She never I didn't hear her mention any of our names.

She just said, y'all are so nice. And then she turned around and she said, do you people realize that I'm all alone? And that just got me. And then the feed kept cutting out and she kept coming back, and every time she would come back, I would click back on. And we were trying and she had a relative in the room. I'm not going to say who it was, but there was a relative in the room, and I just kept saying, go tell your parents. Go

tell your parents, you know, I don't. I reached out to the roommate because I thought she was still living with the roommate, and here everybody tells me, no, she moved a week ago. Now. She never told me this, and to me, I was supposed to be one of her best friends. She never told me, so that broke my heart that other people knew and I didn't know she had moved into like a one bedroom studio like a week before this happened. She never I didn't know this,

so I was in the dark about that. Kept calling and finally the feed cut out and I think either someone reported her or Instagram found out and they wouldn't let her go live again. So then I started panicking and I went over on Facebook Messenger to see if she was on there, and she was. It said she was, It said active. And I got a sense of calmness because I said, well, maybe somebody got a hold of

her and she's talking to somebody. You know, now I'm doing this, well, I'm talking to about thirty people on the side. Everybody's sending me messages and texting me, and I mean, I I didn't know what else to do. When we were in the IG people were sending the police. That was another thing. They had an old address where they wasn't We didn't know what her new address was because she had just moved a week ago, so I don't know at what point they got a hold of

her parents. But I didn't go to bed that night until IMA was midnight, and I had to take a lot of melotonin to sleep because I was just I was talking to people, I was crying, I was nervous. But before I went to sleep, I had checked the Facebook messager again and she was still on there. It said she was still on there, so I said, okay, fine. Woke up in the middle of the night. I checked. It said she was on like forty four minutes ago,

so I said, okay. Now, somebody in the chat said she was drinking, so I thought, well, maybe she just came down, you know from the she got sober, and maybe she just passed out. Went to sleep, so I fell back to sleep. I woke up the next morning, like I usually do, I went on there. It said she was active two hours ago. I said, okay, I

went downstairs. I talked to a couple people. Nobody heard anything at this point, and then another good friend of hers, Lexi Feiffe, had sent me a message and she's the one that told me that her parents founder and it was too late. So from the report that I read, the cops went to the house, but they couldn't get in at first because of the door, something dead bulled on the door or something. But they didn't hear anybody

there and they left. Now I don't know if Shannon's car was not there at this point, because the second report said when they went back a couple hours later, her car was in the parking lot, So I don't know if her car wasn't there the first time and they just thought that she wasn't home. I don't know if she had left house and then went back, you know, in that two hours, if they would have broke the door down the first time, would they have saved her? Right? Right?

I mean, if somebody is suicidal and you can't get the door down, don't you do everything to get the freaking door down? How do you leave? I don't know that. I was so confused because, oh, we they thought no one was there, so they left, and then when they went back a couple of hours later with her parents this time, that's when they found their you know, dead on her bed and h but the thing was in when she was on ig I didn't notice this. But afterwards one of my friends sent me a screenshot and

she was holding the gun and I didn't see it. Yeah, I didn't see that in whatever I had seen too, I did not see the gun. I didn't see it. And then the picture she showed me, you know where it was held years ago. Years ago, she had a gun and I'm wondering if it was the same one. And she was dating the guy and the guy had called me and said, Shannon took off and she has her gun with her. And I remember calling her and I talked her down. She was at a gas station

and I said, do you have a gun? And she said yes, and I said, you need to go back home. You know, so and so was waiting for you. And I mean it was a close one that at that time, and I honestly thought, you know, either she got ready or she put it away somewhere, like I don't know why she had it. I don't know why. I don't I wish he would have taken it away from her. But she she thought about suicide before this. I mean she at one point she was looking up nooses. Oh

my gosh, it was yeah. But this this was when that incident happened a couple of years ago, and she was in you know, I thought she was in a better place. And it's no lie. She was bipolar, she was manic, depressant. She had issues, but most times she can control them, you know. And I to this day, I don't know. I just don't know what she was

thinking that. Somebody told me that she had said she distanced it herself from her her animals because she thought it would be easier to leave if she wasn't as close to them anymore, because really her dog and her cat was all she had, you know. And when I said that to my husband, he said, she did the same thing to you. She disted herself from me as well. Maybe it was easier for her to leave me without telling.

I knew what was wrong, I knew she had she musn't have a plan in her mind, and I honestly don't think any of us could have changed it. But I wish I would have had the chance to try. Maybe I could have helped her. I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, you I mean you know, I at the end of the last tribute that you did, I put her episode on where she came with came out with us. And it's a long, long, fun, you know, up and down conversation and talked about dark stuff, but

talked about light stuff. It was fun and then some start some spots was heavy. But I saw the bond that you guys had and you you know, you always talked about her, you always, and I knew was this special friendship. So you're you know, your husband's one hundred percent right, more than you know, more than likely, and that's that's tough. And I just I can't imagine, you know, what you're going through with it. I've never lost anybody

that close to me. Yeah, and uh, especially in such a public manner as it's devastating, and uh, you know, let me let me ask you, if you don't mind, what do you So we talked about the people in the room, you know, maybe people not showing up before, what about the outpouring afterwards and all the people that have come forward to discuss their relationships with her and how much they you know, appreciated her sometimes, I mean, and this is just a skeptics I and I love

that they're talking about her in such a positive light, because that's what you have to do, especially somebody with mental illness. You can't blame them. It's they can't control it. But where were a lot of these people before? And I hate to say that, but I mean it was. The response was off the charts amazing. And the seen matches I'd never seen before, pictures I'd never seen before. WWE ranographic for her, aw ranographic, Impact Impact Ranographic. But

where was a lot of this stuff before? And I hate to say that in retrospect, she you know, she loved wrestling. Wrestling became her passion. She started out as an actress and she she got the gig in w CW throw in acting right, yes, And she she was athletic before, she played soccer and all this stuff, and she just fell in love with the sport. When she got injured and you know, the doctor told her you

can't perform anymore, that crushed her. At that point. You know, she she didn't know what she was going to do with her life, and she still thought she had a lot to give, uh, you know, professionally to wrestling. She told me, And and I don't think this came from

jealousy at all. But she would tell me that she couldn't watch her friends when you know, her friends that are in the business on television and stuff, because it bothered her that she couldn't be there, that she couldn't do it, and she was happy for those who were working. So when I say, you know, I don't think it was so much jealousy. I really think that she was happy and proud of what everybody was doing, but it

bothered her that she couldn't do it right. And I remember one time I did an interview I think it was with like Alicia Tute or something for YouTube. I did you know, and she goes, I'll never forget she told me. She goes, I saw your your clip with Alicia. She goes, you looked beautiful and I said, well, thank you. She goes, I had to turn it off and I said why, and she goes, because you looked so good. And I said, well, what the I don't get it. She said, because you you you always look good and

I don't look good anymore, and I can't. I couldn't watch it, you know. And then like like we were in New York for Russel Khan and I can't tell you how many people said, this is you, what happened to you? Oh that's the I remember. That's terrible. And these people look like slobs. I mean no offense to anyone, but you know they're coming up in T shirts with their guts hanging out, and they have the nerve to

say something to her. And you know, she cried that day and she said, I'm going to the bar and I said, no, you're not going to the bar. You're going to sit here and you're going to try and make money because that's what we're here for. And she literally had a breakdown. Who says that to somebody who it's so rude. It's just so rude. It's twenty years later. We've all changed, you know, some for the good, some not so good. But you don't you don't have to

be so rude about it. And that that killed her, That killed her, and you know you talk about nobody being there for her. I just feel like, you know, when I posted stuff, I've had people say, yeah, I should have went to her stream, or I should have reached out, or I should have and now it's too late. You didn't and that's you didn't do it. She had good she had to me, she had good friends, but none of us were there, like we physically, we couldn't be there to hug her or hold her hand or

tell her it's okay. And that's what she wanted, you know. And she she also wanted a relationship. She was lonely and she she knew she wasn't going to have any children, but she wanted, you know, a boyfriend. She wanted somebody to hang out with. She wanted close friends that she could be near. She didn't have any of that, you know. Yeah, we were planning a trip for her to come up and stay here for a while. Owl And I mean, there's only so much you can do when you live

hundreds and hundreds of miles from somebody. It was she from Georgia. She was you know, she lived in England, and she was a military brat, like okay, so she traveled a lot. But she'd been stationed in Georgia for a while. She had moved to Florida for a little bit and then came back to Georgia And I told her, what's keeping you there? Yeah, you know, and she just

she wanted to go back to school. And then school didn't work out, and then she met that couple and got that job, and I just thought it was gonna get better for her. I really did. But the like, you know, I don't know what happened within that last two weeks because I couldn't reach her, I couldn't get her. Yeah, that was the last thing. When when I saw you in Albany, when before you got the car, was as we're like, literally right before you ask I asked, had

you talk to her? And you said, I just talked to her last week and you know, she's doing really well. It was like literally the last conversation we had before we got back to your house, and You're like, yeh, she's doing great. She got this gig. It's really good. Hopefully you know, everything goes well. That was the last time, you know, I guess you had talked. And that's tragic, that's horrible. Well, the tragic thing is the last time I saw her was that ig thing. Yeah, and it

was it just it was a lot of babbles. It was a lot of half the time, I didn't know what the hell she was talking about, you know, and I'm trying to listen and I'm trying to get her attention. We all were, We all were, and it just it was so sad that it's a haunting image. It bothers you. I've been waking up in the middle of the night just seeing her. That's not the last thing I want to see. That wasn't the last image I wanted to see of her. I just I just wish we had

one more conversation. Maybe I could have changed something. I don't know. Just I don't know. I just wish I knew what was going through her head. Just I keep telling myself minutes before she actually shot herself, like what was she thinking? Like she must't have felt so alone, and that's that's a horrible feeling. Like I look at my kids and I'm like, I never want them to

feel that way. You know, she had no one there, just said, you know, And the one thing that is haunting about it to the outsider who looks at things her comments about ct and you know where that she wanted her brain to go to Boston and that's where they're studying, the CTE, the Chris Nowinsky Institute. That was chilling. And I mean that you know that part of it,

I couldn't that's I mean, obviously again outsider. But that was the part that stuck with me, was just the wear and tear that it takes on some people in the injuries. But the CTE, it's bad. It's very bad, and it does cause it irrational thinking, and it's it's just it's it's just a tragic, tragic story. Everybody I talked to, they said, you wouldn't have changed her mind. Even if you got a hold of her, you wouldn't have changed her mind. Her mind was set. She knew

what she was going to do. That's why she cut people off. She didn't want to be saved. To me, it looked like a cry for help when she was I mean, why why did she even go one ig? I don't that. I don't understand. So we were all just like, she wants help, she's out there, she's reaching out. But apparently it wasn't. It wasn't a cry for help. I guess I don't know why she went live that evening.

I don't get it. I just don't get it. I've been sick to my stomach over I've been trying to wrap my brain around what her reasoning was and I just can't. I can't. And today's the funeral and I can't be there. It just everything just bothers me. Right now, today's my sister's anniversary. You know, my dad's was like forty days ago. It just September sucks. I hate this month with a passion, and now Shannon's involved. But it's

a lot. And if I swear to God, if I didn't have my kids here, I would have just I would have lost it every single day. But because my kids have been with me during the day, I've been right, I've been okay. But at night is when I start to think of things, and I just every single night I've been waking up in the middle of the night. I can't fall back to sleep, and I'm just think, I don't know. I don't have any answer. I guess I never will. I just hope she's a piece nail

because that's all she wanted. Yeah, no, that's you know. And and for fans and people who have reached out and who've wanted to help, who have wanted to I guess observe and memory. I mean, just keep her in your hearts and your thoughts. I mean, that's you know. Are they doing any kind of donation, Are they doing any kind of you know, special funds or anything. Cause I've had people asking me about it if they were and I just said, I don't know. I don't know

what they're doing. I just, uh, I just buying this shirt that you're wearing, you know, the I don't even know. I don't I don't know what happens. I mean, I would hope that CT would be a great uh charity to give it to. I I just don't know. I don't. I'm not sure. Well, you know, I knew this is gonna be tough. I mean obviously you know for people on on Patreon, you know that we you know, we we took that week last week because there was no way we were going to be able to sit down.

Two days later too, I think maybe it was it two days later, it was? Was it the next day? I mean I guess it was. No, it was the next day and morning early. Yeah. I just knew. I knew before I knew that we weren't going to be sitting down. I just absolutely knew it. But uh, you know, you're just sharing everything that you have, and you know

it's uh, it's it's heartbreaking. We all feel for you, as you know, her being your your good friend and best friend, some regards and just it's as the heartbreaking story. I'm very sorry for you. It's it's just one of those things that I'll never know. I try to think of the good times. There were plenty of I mean over a twenty year span, her and I and a bunch of the other girls. I mean, we we w we had the best times ever inside and outside the ring.

I always said that was like a huge slumber party, you know, and all the girls got along and it was such a fun fed. We might have done stupid shit in the ring, but who cares. It was all about the after party for us. We didn't really care about what was going on in the ring. And we saw those pictures that you were sharing. Very yeah, it looked like a party, that's for sure. It was always the party with that company. And you know, it wasn't for her and I. It wasn't just a work relationship.

We had a sisterly bond. I don't know. I just wish I just could talk to her one more time, that's all. Yeah, I can't so. I mean today it's going to be at two thirty, and I wish I could have went, But too far away, and I had too much responsibility here, so I couldn't I couldn't be there. But my heart is always with her. And I know she wouldn't understand, but yeah, outpouring of love. And she had a lot of people who loved her. I know, life gets in the way. I get it. Not everybody

has the time. But if she could have seen the outpouring, because she always thought of herself as irrelevant, Yeah, you know, I'm not over anymore. I'm not over enough to do this. You know. She would always say stuff like that, and I would just tell her to shut up, you know,

in a way I said this on another show. She helped build the foundation for what is today's women's wrestling scene because she was taking unbelievable, unbelievable matches to television at a time where women's wrestling wasn't getting that spotlight. She was out there and she had a unique look that people would end up copying, you know, and almost

rip it off, how close to it it was. When that's what you do, sometimes you borrow, but doing stuff and having big matches that ten years later would be the norm. And she's a trailblazer and as much she might not have thought it she is. But again I wish that people said it then. But she never really got the recognition she deserved for it, you know what I mean, Like she wasn't known as one of the

top performers in the company. She didn't get a huge push, you know, well, she was thrust into a big spot her Her biggest spot was probably when she debuted with the whole Rick Flair and you know, and the yeah Russo storyline, David Flair right there, and then where do you Go? And then you had and you know, Cruiserweight Champion. You know, she she had a hell of an introduction

to uh to w CW. But it's like, you know, she was in WCW at a time where people were starting to tune out, and then she was in TNA right before. Really TNA had the big or sense of you know, urgency to watch and people might have missed her, but if you watch at the time, you knew that she was different, she was unique, and she was the scream queen the whole thing. I mean, it was a very,

very trailblazing PERSONA. Yeah, it's it's unfortunate that, like you said, a lot of people just didn't give her the recognition that she deserved. And I'm not saying we had to put her over every day, right and none of us get that. And she just felt like her time had passed. And I honestly, I feel the same way about myself. I tell you all the time, like I'm just the grizzlytle vet in this business, just hanging out and doing stuff like this just to have fun and make a

couple of bucks on the side, you know. But none of us of a rock. We all we didn't we know that. But she I'm okay with where I'm at. She wasn't. She wasn't okay with it. She still craved to do something, and you know, she tried to do certain things and people told her, no, we're not interested, and it was hard for her to accept that, you know, And I just I told her, don't don't get your feelings hurt. You know, you're in your mid forties, like she's forty six. It's a it's a young woman's game

right now. Like they're a major. FED isn't going to hire somebody that's pushing fifty unless it's like a something like a Vicky Guerrero or some some special you know, whatever I but I tried to tell her in a nice way, like don't get your hopes up. You know, if it happens, it happens, and if it doesn't, it's not it's just not meant to be. And what was she look like? Producer style something like that. No, at

one point she wanted to be on air again. Oh okay, and that, you know, and I don't want to say with you because I don't want any means. But the company that she was trying to get with was wasn't interested. She was upset about it. I told her, like, screw them, don't worry about it, you know. And I kept telling her the way I try to stay relevant or stay in the public eye, I get out there and I work, you know, I work, I do my show. I try to just do stuff. Well. She didn't want to do

cameos because she didn't like the way she looked. She didn't want to do appearances because she didn't like the way she looked. And she was trying to transform herself. She finally had gotten on the right medication and she was starting to lose some weight and she was starting to feel good about herself. And you know, we were saying well maybe next year for Russell Con, maybe we'll go to Dallas. And she's always like, well, we'll see, that's what she kept saying. I said, well, take it

one day at a time. It's not a big deal. You know, we'll go one step at a time. And it just I don't know. I'm sorry, go ahead. No. I was just gonna say call and she'd say, you, no, I ate crap today? Oh so what you ate crap today? Tomorrow you go for a longer walk. You know, you can make up for it. Everybody falls sometimes you're gonna get back up. You're gonna be fine. So I was told her, don't beat yourself up. You have to take things day by day. Everybody's hard on themselves. I am too.

I don't like the way I look most days, and you know, it's it's just especially for women, body shaming. It's out there. And that's why I got so hot that day in New York. People were just so mean to her. Why why do you have to be like that? It made her feel like shit, it's not right. It was just that's the note like that. Yeah, that stuff is that's no filter. I mean, that is. It was rude. That's got that's you know that that kind of fan. I mean, I've seen them a lot, and I'm not

bashing fans. I'm not trying to do fans. I love my fans. But you what makes you think you're better than anyone else to go up to somebody and say something, Yeah, there are some that are just completely in their own little bubble and in their own little world, and they're oblivious. That's the perfect word. I couldn't get the word in my head. That's it. They're oblivious and they you know, they they think that they're in a Yeah, they're in

a different spot than they are. But if somebody, if if Daphne said that back to them, would be, oh, she's such a bitch. Oh yeah, what an asshole. You just kind of sat there and was like, well, you know, time has passed and I mean she was trying to be nice to be but then she just started crying and I you know, and I was just like, son of a bitch, Why why would you say something like that? Just people are such ass I can't. You're a bunch

of assholes, all of you, every single person. No, I don't know, I just except for the people on Patreon, you guys are not everybody. I'm kidding. I'm joking, you know what I'm saying. I know I've joke, and it made it. It made it unenjoyable for me at that point because then I had to babysit her because she just kept threatening to go to the bar the whole time, and I'm trying to do sales for myself and I'm trying to watch her. I'm trying to push her stuff

so she makes money. And it was just a disaster. And that was New York. That was what two years ago, twenty nineteen. Yeah, that was yeah, because the New Orleans was the year before, and then we did New York and then the pandemic hit, So that was the last one we did together. I think I think that was

the last one. I mean I was gonna say, I mean, I would have loved to have done more with her here, but I just didn't get the impressions she wanted to do anything, you know, so I never I never followed up with asking you again, because I remember after we had her on, we had the great conversation about WEW and maybe we'll go back and watch it. I think I might have said it once and then I kind of got the oppression. She didn't want to do anything, and that was it. But that could have been a

great time capsule looking back. Yeah, No, she was very adamant about not wanting to be seen in public. Yes, but then she was saying, uh. She did tell me that she was supposedly going to Halloween Horror Nights at Universal for this Halloween. I forget who it was with. It might have been with like her friends from the book club or something, but they were all going to get together. And she goes, I think I'm going to go this year, and I said, you should go. It'll

be fun. Get it out because she she loves Halloween and spooky shit. Now I hate Halloween and all that comes with it, but she was into it, and I said go and have a good time, and she was excited about it. And again I just something turned and I just think I think just this time, life was too overwhelming for her. And she felt like she had known the term too. So I don't know. Anyway, I got my death shirt on. You do it's a great shirt. She would have read this to herself, Yeah, you were

you wore when she was on with us too. I was just looking at that, it's a you know, it's very again, very cool, unique shirt from a very cool and unique person. Yeah, it's a very interesting design for sure. I love her, love her like a sister. She always said, my family's you guys. You know. She always told me that you're my family. It's just and then my kids, like I had to tell my kids because every time

we would talk, my kids would be there. They would say, oh, it's Shane and they would come on the screen with her and she would do the little filters for their face is, you know, and they had the fun I saw you post one of those that was very fun. Yeah, she would do it with the kids. And you know, when I I had to tell the kids, I told I'd let them. I didn't tell them exactly what happened. I just said she mixed up her pills by accident, and you know, the mixture was bad and that's why

she died. But my daughter, and my daughter's twelve, and she just held me and she was like, mom, it's going to be okay. It's going to be okay. That's the moment I found out when I got it the message from Lexi that morning, Right, Lexi, just you know, she told me everything and I just burst it out and she ran into the room. She said, what happened? And I said a friend died and she said who wasn't? And I said it was shunning and she started crying. But she, I mean, she was like the adult. She

grabbed me and held me and just comforted me. You know, that was beautiful. And I told her that night, I Clint, I got through this without you. And she's twelve. You know, she had more composure than I did. But like I said, I think hopefully now she's a peace And you know, something else triggered me too, Like a couple of days later, are you watching the show Heels by any chance. I

haven't had a chance to check it out yet. I don't want to give too much away, but they talk about suicide and the guy's mother says, you commit suicide, you go straight to Hell. And when I watched that scene, it was like my heart just broke. You know, the Bible says you commit suicide, you go straight to hell. And I've been thinking about that a lot. And I don't know if you guys believe in heaven or hell out there, some people just believe when you die you die.

My philosophy is it's nice to have something to believe in, have a faith, you know, something that keeps you going, because when you do die, you don't know any better. So why not believe something good will happen and live your life that way. That's that's what I think anyway. So I tend to believe there is a heaven out there, but you know, when you die, it is the only

way you find out. And when I watch that show, it just it just triggered me and it made me think, you know, deep thoughts that I was trying to avoid, trying to go to the show to escape, and you know, yeah, exactly, like I love my reality stupid shows. I love you bror Ba short all that domas nonsense and then Heels is a good show. I'm enjoying it. But in that episode, it really like punched me in the gut and I was just like, fuck, now you should be looking for Snooky.

Don't go straight for Snooky next time. Don't where at the beach exactly? Yeah, yeah, gt L, don't don't worry about I. Don't go to the gritty you know, the gritty wrestling drama where you know, anything could possibly trigger something. Yeah, it's it was a lot. But Punk was on one of the episodes and he did great. Uh perfect timing too with him going back to a w And now you know he's got the little role in the Heels show. He was. He was awesome on that and it is

a good show. You should check it out. Did you know that apparently he based his character for Heels off of Tracy Smothers. How great is that? Yeah? I didn't really see much Tracy. I don't know. I mean maybe a little bit, but I I don't know. The most memorable scene is him being on the toilet. I didn't see yet, so taking a dump on the toilet. Oh yeah, all right, so but it's it's good check it out. But yeah, I mean, I've just been trying to keep

myself occupied. My kids have been helping a lot, and you know we haven't gotten back to school. We're starting Monday. How you go, Okay, that's right, your homeschool schedule. Back to school Monday starting. Well, we had to wait until certain books were delivered to you can go get your your supplies fifty because started. I know the kids are already asking like field trips and the days off and I was like, we haven't even started yet. We are going to go to the aquarium for a field trip.

But it just sucks because of COVID. Still there's no no one getting together, there's no plate dates happening. Now they're saying, the kids are, you know, catching COVID at rapid speed, and the schools are starting to close again. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm just like every day so you know, just I'll change topics here just a little bit. So during pandemic, our little town here was like nothing. There was like, you know, when the big cities were having thousands and

thousands of cases, we have like six. Well, all of a sudden, our elementary school is like the hotspots. You know, like every day there's an email, please check your email regarding COVID nineteen exposure blah blah blah elementary school. And it's like, okay, now where the hotspot? Oh okay, I got you. Are they shutting them down? They have to drop past a certain percentage of kids out, so they haven't hit that threshold. But I mean it's like it's

so dumb. You know, my older daughter sitting there going, yeah, this whole table across from me everybody's gone. She's like, I was at recess at all. My friends were sent home to quarantined, you know. And are they wearing masks? They don't have to wear masks at recess. Yeah, it's

an indoor mandate. But you know, it's like the close contacts and it's you know, the vaccination right now twelve and over, so they're ten and uh, you know, these kids are going to have to go home and quarantine and if they want to come back in a shorter amount of time, they have to produce a negative test. You know. So you're putting ten year olds through that horrible, horrible COVID tests which look for a thirty eight year old. I couldn't handle it a ten year old, you know.

And now they're saying and again it's just completely changing topics. So I don't I don't want to go down a political rabbit hole. But they're saying how they're going to try to implement testing in schools. Yeah, right, So I said, I go, okay, So let's so I might speak with somebody who is very close to me that's in much

support of everything that's being said. I said, so, can we picture my five year old being called to the nurse's office to have her brain picked with a Q tip to do a COVID test and not have her mommy and daddy there. I go, come on, come on, the kids are going to lose it. You're you're safe at home right now. That's why I'm so happy. You know you're safe. You're a good shape of your household. It's yeah, we're all safe in our own little bubble,

and we like it like this. Can Professor Chad come yet to teach them the finer things of some some subject but like a maybe a baseball history class or well history, well we could do that ever zoom, Okay, okay. When I was going to come into oldie time, uh baseball uniform, you know with the stirrups all the way up and you know, the big bangs. I I asked my kids every day, do you want to go back to school? In school, learning new new? And you know,

I give them the choice. They're old enough, they're old enough to make their own decisions. And I gave them the choice and they said no. So I said, okay, because your son scratches, you know, his areas and his underwear, and go, nope, we're good yeah, we're good here, Bundy. Yeah. Sometimes Yeah, Okay, you're good. I think you're pretty good here. Mom. I don't know if I had to say yeah, I just again, I just wish, you know, just the social aspect.

It'll get there, I'm sure eventually. But I thank god I have two children that can play together, because for the most part, they've been getting along and they've been playing well, and you know, by like six thirty seven o'clock, I kind of have to separate. That's where it starts to set in. That's the that's the expiration time. It gets a little a little much by that time, they're you know, they're jumping on each other and stuff like that.

But I mean they're Look, they're good kids. They listen press precious angels with timing of very epic proportions, with their very introspective comments like your son had when we were there. That was I still love. That was such a beautiful little thing that he said. I thought that was so precious. They both they're both very loving, very emotional kids, you know, and very very nice. Yeah, I'm lucky,

but we're just, you know, we're just hanging out. We closed the pool, which was side o the weather's I mean, it's only sixty sixty eight degrees today. There's no way we could have went swimming. It's too so we you know, we went on a hike and I don't know, We're just they're just puttering around. There's really much, not much to do, really isn't And it's this is a transition time between summer and fall. Ye kind of in a

holding pattern. Yeah, and because of COVID too, like a lot of places aren't if they're open, they don't have like the activities that not everything is working or you know, you put you pay fifty dollars to get into somewhere and then you can't go on half the things. And it's just like, oh god, come on, excuse me. It's it's it's a lot. So the kids want to go to Chuck E Cheese and I'm like, that is a German infested cesspool of filth. I have been, I have been.

We're not going there. There's nowhere we're going there. So I think we're just we're going to plan something in October for the aquarium, get them a little field trip. I did want to do the uh, what's it called the Express, the train for Christmas Polar Express Polar Express, I kind of. I mean, I know they're older, but I thought it would be neat to get on the train and like look at the lights. Oh absolutely, But I don't think they're doing it because of the cars.

They don't want a bunch of families in one car and it's not worth selling the tickets. I got to look into it. I got to see when it gets closer. Can they not be dumb? Just don't overthink it, Just do it and make it safe. Find out how to do it. I don't know, extra time if you have to, Folks, get us out of the freaking house. Oh he's in the house. I gotta get out of here. Losing my mind. Oh my gosh. Well, well, I don't know. We will do our best this week to provide some enjoyable content.

We gave you some classic content last week. I went and grabbed some of the pick of the litter there, Queen of Extreme, some of the some of some of our best us that we ever had. I watched I watched the one porn porn star what is it called wrestler or porns? It was very it was very funny. I watched it as well and I was I was laughing my ass off, and maybe we'll wait about a week before I bring it back, okay, and uh the other and I was up for debate with what I

was going to do for the watch along. I was happy with what I ended up doing with the Wrestle Rock Rumble because that was that was funny too. That was a great one. It was very close to pulling out the Scott Hall ECW appearance because we get we get that a lot in the live streams when we get questions for you, people always ask about that. Sole's think about bringing that out, But I was like, no, what The Wrestle Rock Rumble was pretty damn funny too,

so we went with that. Yeah, No, it's it's good to laugh. I know Shannon would want me to laugh, So I'm going to try my best with the extras today to laugh. And well, I'm going to try my best to make you laugh, so I hope. So there you go. That's my job. I'll rune it down quickly before we say goodbye. We are going to check out a it's gonna be good at Top ten Celebrities with Bad Plastic Surgery video view. Yeah. I found this. I didn't watch it. If it sucks, I apologize. I'm hoping

there's some good ones on there. I am not against plastic surgery. I'm one hundred percent for it. But some of these people just go a little too far. It's a little too far, and their face transforms into the worst thing I've ever usually the lips, the lips, the cheek boons are like on their foreheads all the way here. It's terrible, terrible, So we'll check that out. We got some weird Amazon movie trailers. Yeah, I hear Amazon has they're so good they're bad, or so bad they're good. Rather,

it's the new wave of direct to video. You know, you go to Blockbuster and you'd see like, uh, you know, the movie Anaconda with Jennifer Lopez and ice Cube, and then next to it you'd see like Reptile and it's the same exact looking movie, but it's completely different, and it's terrible. It's low you know, low budget, it's terrible sets, it's hopefully it's in that vein. And then we're going to close out the Legends of the Arena Final Contest, the main event. Uh, and we're gonna end that show.

We'll get your final thoughts. I'm looking back at that for the first time ever. I don't remember that match at all. I don't even know if I watched it because at that point I think I was sitting in the back with my legs, probably with a fan over you somewhere. I was so pregnant, Yes I was. It was terrible. Absolutely, we're gonna finish it out, and we'll

do it in a in a big way. I want to mention before we say goodbye, but I'm gonna mention it more on the extras that there is a brand new Queen of Extreme Merchandise store via Wrestle Merch Central, and I'm gonna pull it up on the screen here in just a minute. I'm gonna tell and we'll talk

about this on the extra we'll talk about it. I want to tell a little bit of the history of this company, Wrestle merch and their parent company, Event Merchandising, a juggernaut of wrestling history and back into the fray with Wrestle merch Central. Uh, and your T shirt store is live and I brought it up here. Well, I'm gonna let you talk. I'm gonna show everybody the main key component of this store while you talk to me. I just want people to realize, because we're getting a

lot of messages. It is not only just for the UK. It is a worldwide company. You can buy my merch. Whether you live in the United States, the United Kingdom, Singapore, Waba Lajaa any way, or that you live, you can buy merch. Everybody keeps saying, oh, it's only for the UK. The graphic is very deceiving. We need to get a new graphic because it's it's states like UK Merch Open or something like that. It is not just a UK. I'm sorry, I was trying to bring it up. I forgot.

I'm on the different application. Sorry, Okay, I'm gonna I'll try, but I thought I could. Yes, you're correct, so they're great, says it's it's a global address, right, and it's a company out of the UK. But you were the one who pointed out before even I saw where it was. Up in the corner in the left hand side, next to the search bar, there is a drop down where you can change it to the dollar that fits your country.

So you have to click the menu button and once you click menu the dropdown feature, you go all the way to the bottom and you'll see I think it says g I don't know, GBS or something some something. The default is GBP. That's the yes, yes, that's that, and just change it to US and there's your pricing. No one knows how to navigate this this website, and everybody keeps seeing the UK merch whatever the graphic says. We need to change that, we need to get a

new graphic. It is United States America. Buy my stuff. You can get it in the you know, in the US. It ships out out of the US as well. It's not like it's coming from the UK. We have a merchandise store in the United States that it is coming out of. And I also have women's shirts, which it's a new thing for me. I never had shirts made for women. And I also have hoodies available, which I just found out. I was like, wow, I have hoodies. And there's also going to be mugs on the way

as well as more choices for the hoodies. So it's really and they're all new designs. There. You've had T shirts stores, you still have T shirts stores. These are all new designs. Yes, approved and designed for the most part by the Queen of Extreme Yeah. I love them. I think they came out great. Thank you to Eli for helping me out, and I just I'm excited about it. And I won't have them at conventions. This is strictly an online thing for me, so you do have to

order them. But the good thing is you can order them, get them and then if you are coming to a convention you bring it with you and I could sign it there it was. But please don't think if you don't live in the UK you can't buy because this is it's nationwide. You can. You can buy it from wherever you are. Just change the currency and that's absolutely right. It's Wressele merch Central dot com, heay Wrestle merch Central dot com. Global shipping Australia, Europe, the US, the UK, Canada.

You make the order, you change it to your appropriate dollar that your country allows to be spent, and it'll adjust the price. You can get these shirts. I personally will be getting the you can't work a worker probably hoodie because I do like the I love I love to say I always use that phrase. You do, you absolutely do always use that phrase. Somebody says something, I'm like, come on, you can't work work let's go if you if it tickles your fancy, I probably couldn't wear it

around my house. But the eyes Up your shirt is very unique. It's very specific to the Queen of Extreme. But it's just great designs. You know, your classic four sixty nine shirt in the black and white, the British union jack, the American flag and the rainbow colors. I mean, it is so different that I really, I really really hope that people go out of their way to check this out. Support you. Get these shirts made and are made, get them. Just buy them. I don't even know what

I'm saying anymore. Just buy them. Wrestle merch Central dot com. That's it. That's all I want to plug this week is Wrestle merch Central. Yeah. And when you go on the website, I think you have to click like lady Wrestler or women. Yes, and it's built This is built around you. The Ladies of Wrestling Merchandise tab is built around you. And now I'm sure they'll add other lovely ladies. Hey, they had to build it for one person, so looks

like trailblazing for you. Yet again, Queen of Extreme, so trying to stay relevant in this crazy business yes, no, it's it's great stuff again. I love them. I love love love that you can work. A worker shirt is very sweet and I can't wait to wear it on the air here. Thank you appreciate it. We'll just tell people where they can find you if you don't want to plug anything at Chatty and b Twitter, at IB Exclusives, Instagram. I'm really trying hard with Instagram, really really trying hard

and it's doing very well. So please come along and and check it out and go to IBE Exclusives dot com. If you want to get a Brett Hart autographed, come my way. We'll get it done there. You go across the board for me. I am at ACW, Diva, Francine and support mental health if you can. And with that that is around