All right, let's get it going right here, right now. This is Eyes up Here, and you're listening to a brand new week of Eyes up Here programming on Patreon. But if you're listening to the main episode, you're catching us on the Creative Control podcast network. He didn't know by now my name is Chad. In every single week I'm joined by I'm going to try to do it right this time. There she is the queen of extreme Francine.
I'm trying still, I always get it opposite, But there she is the queen of at the point in the opposite direction that you're thinking, yes, hello, it's so ridiculous. Hello, how are you? I'm doing great, Good to talk to you, Good to see you with great job. How much this week? No, No, it's been a little crazy out there in the world and trying to navigate through everyday life is what it is. Did you get a blizzard? Like? We got snow, but I saw parts of the northeast we're gonna get salammed. Yes,
we got about ten inches, I believe Wow. Yep. So the kids were able to play a couple of days outside. A daughter built a snowman she was very proud of, and they had a good time out there, so it was fun. It's still snowy. We're waiting for, you know, a rainstorm to calm and sweep everything away, because it looks pretty in the beginning and then it gets all dirty and gross, and then I look at it, I'm like, please go away. Already not a fan of the snow.
So it's been about fifty degrees here the last two days. So yeah, so it melted like crazy. I was doing work down here in the basement the other day and it must have been like the giganic sheet of ice from the table out on the deck because it hit the air conditioning unit and I jumped like ten feet in the air. Did you get a lot of snow? We got like three inches, but we were supposed to get like like eight to ten and three inches in Virginia, that's a lot. And the kids played like crazy. Now
let me ask you this, are you snowblower or shovel people? Well, we I don't do anything. You're the queen of the stream. We don't let you soil your hands. Hubs does it? So we went in half seas with our neighbor and bought a snowblower that the neighbor has at his house, but I don't I don't know. I don't think my husband gets to use it. I don't know what that. He just shovels. Their schedules are different, so I guess when he's ready to do something, my neighbor's not him,
so he just goes and shovels everything. But I don't know it's up with that. Yeah, I think we got a raw end of the deal. Share the lawnmower too. We pay for lawn service. Okay, let's say you know, the lawnmower deals could backfire as well, you know, especially in their garage. You're like, shit, I got to moull my damn law and like, how am I supposed to
do this? We have lawn people who come, but the snow. Yeah, Like my mom was even saying, she's like remember as a kid, like you know, the kids would knock on the door and you give them five bucks and they would, you know, shovel. No one does that anymore. I will say. My mom called me on Sunday and said that she did get a knock on the door and the kids asked followed by right, she had a neighbor neighborhood kid
asked they could shovel. She paid them, but then followed up by saying, is there a reason that I didn't come to shovel them out? Yeah? So who cares? The kid did it? What do you need me for? May I ask what the going rate is these days? Oh, I don't know. I'm going to think here's probably some guilty. I'm going to think it's twenty bucks flat good. I mean, you look if you got a dollar, you know, back in the day, Yeah, I know. And my house was like a fourth of the house I live in now.
Growing up, you know, I lived in a Rowhoma townhouse right small, so we didn't have much property to shovel. So two bucks was like a goal mine out there for ten minutes, you know. But yeah, no one, no one comes around here to shovel or anything. So my husband has to do everything, and he does it. Says it's a workout for him. So hey, come on, snows out, guns out, you know, I go, yeah, he's seen his tank top out there shoveling. Sure, cars drive by and
be like what's up? Yeah right, keep driving, impressing all the ladies that come down the street. For sure. So what I did oh, I was going to say I did go yesterday and get the boobs examined. Yes, she did very very good to hear. Let me tell you, men are like so lucky. Most of the things that women have to go through are so painful. Mammograms are one of them. That girl smushed my boobs to the point where I thought I was going to pass out.
You have to put them in this machine and you have to turn all sorts of ways to put your arm here. You turn this way, she lifts it, she sticks it in, it smushes it down. I then you have to hold your breath and this thing is put Yeah, you can't breathe or else it messes the picture up. Okay, when I tell you the pain level was that one hundred. Yesterday, my right boob was violated in more fights than once.
She really she had to do an extra picture. I don't know what happened though, I don't know what, but she didn't Something was in the way or something moved. I had to do it all over again. I was just like, girl, you're killing me. But uh, you guys man, you don't go through anything like that. Imagine having to stick your penis in the machine that you got to get smushed. Well, I'm sure there's some people who would pay to actually have that done. That's true too, but
you know what I mean. Well, they looked at your chart, they saw Francine Kama, the Queen of extreme and they were like, ah, she's got this. We'll take the extra picture. Look, I don't put myself over like that. I just saw my real name and nobody knows that I am. So it was painful. Man. I went and we went to the wrong office. I was late. I don't know what happened.
I booked myself at the wrong place. I don't think the times matched up for the place that I usually go to, so I picked a different location that we've never been to, and we ended up going to the billing office because it was the address that was on the letter. And I walk in and like everybody said, a cubicle, and they're like, can we help you? I was like, you're for Mama Graham. They're like, oh, no, you're in the Do you want me to just take him out here in the office, you know, how do
you want it? My left boot was already out of my bro like, could anyone help me? No one was helping me what is going on? So it was a big cluster yesterday, but got it done, so hopefully the results are good and you know, I'm good for a year. And Ralph and the finance office is like, man, I can help you out down here if you'd like. A man did jump up and help me. He called. He
was so nice. They were so nice there. He called to tell them I was running late and I was at their office and could they hold my spot, which they did, and then the lady up and wrote the address down so we can put it in the GPS and get there. I'm grateful my husband was with me, because if I was by myself, I would have lost it. I would have got so nervous. Where the hell am I? And I'm a mess when I'm driving alone, So I'm
glad he was with me. Interesting. Interesting, I I did have to get my testosterone shot today, so I had to take my butt out in the room. But here was the funny part and what really uses the idle chit chat? So I pulled the pants down to get the shot and then she wants to chat and she starts talking about like five different topics that I'm sitting there with my butt sticking out in the air and just being like, so a little breeze coming from the
south end of the room. Not sure if I'm supposed to pull up while she's talking and pull it back down. But that's about the closest that I'll come. Maybe she liked what she saw and just wanted to keep the conversation saying that she didn't. That's for damn sure, Wow exciting. You have to get these shots for well, you know, I have the foreseeable future. They told me it would be a long time, but I went a full month. It was insurance issues, blah blah blah blah blah, and
I went a whole month. So today I feel like Superman ready to kick through the sliding glass door. Here. I'm feeling a little little saucy tonight. But yeah, but you know, a long week. I will say something funny.
So Sunday last week was the Royal Rumble, and the Royal Rumble now as a women's and a men's Royal Rumble, and I received no less than three texts and I saw multiple tweets asking if you were going to be in the Royal Rumble because of all the legends that they were parading out during Good Lord, who texted you? I can't tell you that? Why do you do this? Why do you even bother telling me I had I had fans and the like, asking if you people who enjoy programming that we we've done over the years, as
well as asking if you would be in. They brought back Mickey James. She's been back a few times, Jillian Hall was back, Victoria was back, so people were wondering if the Queen of Extreme would be back as well. I get that every year what number are you? And I always go zero. My number is zero, thirty one. You could be thirty one. I could be thirty one. Yeah, yeah,
I get that every single year. And the hashtag, you know, they put the hashtag in the tweet like ww's going to see it and say, yeah, let's get her, let's get her. It's not happening, guys. Hey man, there's only two times they'll be doing that. They'll be doing it Royal Rubble time and of course now Hall of Fame seasons, you'll be seving. You'll be receiving many a Hall of Fame tweets. I'm sure in the next few months. What I have to say to that is don't hold your
breath because you'll pass out. All the way I've seen it in past years, it always kicks off with Bam Bam Bagelo. Everybody says, Bam Bam Bigelo needs to be in the Hall of Fame, and then it it is. But then it teeter totters down and everybody. It's like everybody from ECW needs to be in the Hall of Fame. It's not that it goes downhill, but I always the first one I would see is Bam Bam, and then it always goes down and then down and then Shane's
got to come on Triple threatensday. I'm not going in. If they ever asked me, Bob, it's the same thing every year around this time of the year. Yeah, well, I mean it's it's very flattering that people want to see me there, so I you know, I do appreciate the tweets and people trying to lobby for it, but I know how they work over there, and I don't. I don't never see it happening, So thank you, but
it's it's not it's not happening. Well right now, you'll be going in the Mammogram Hall of Fame for the for two titty shots of one day. Painful, painful, painful. I just picture squeezing, like you know, like I'm trying to think of something that would be so hard to
squeeze where it would hurt, you know, like like a watermelon. Yes, something with all but like, okay, so my breasts are dense, which they you know, if you have dense breast, they really have to check because things can happen, you know, So they could be a little squishy at times because they're real. Now there's nothing in them that's all me. But I mean, you have to just pivot and turn and move and take a little step this way, and turn this way, put your arm up and put your
armpit out. And there's a lot of rules going on. You have to get the right angle, and you have to hold your breath, keep all the keep all the keeople. You feel like you're gonna pass out. And then and the thing just closed, like closes in like a vice. It's like this, it goes it's squeezes, it goes down, down, down, down down until it can't go anymore. And then you're just stuck. You have to hold your breath. Would you be quiet, please? Tough as nails. How about that? What's
that you're toughest nails? How about that? Every woman is tough as we have babies, we go through hell with our bodies. Uh, the smarter, Uh, there's a lot going on with women, I must say, indeed the fairer sex, if you if if if if that if you're so inclined to be named that. But all right, so that was an interesting week. Well this this program is going to be a fun one. We're gonna go down the
twitter ask me almost anything. Rabbit hole. Uh, you sent out the tweet last week as we were possibly needing uh some fill in spots. But there were so many questions that were asked, uh that I think we're gonna be able to fill this episode up and more. And I'm curious to see you know, as always who pops up with like the random great question? How many of the same you know repeats that we hear. But we will filter as we we need to, Like we don't need to ask a million times, you know, did you
really hate Beulah? You know what I mean? Well, well, we'll sift. You do have to remember though, I get new followers contest too. That's so they they might not be aware. And it's just like on Twitch. You know, people always say I'm sorry if you get asked this, but you know i'm new here. I always I'll repeat it. You know, if you're new, it's okay, I don't mind. That's what I'm here for. So ask away. Speaking of Twitch, before we get moving, I mean, you're really like rocking
and rolling on there. I mean, you got a rhythm, You got to schedule. How's this next week been for you? Aw? You got a lot going on. Yeah. We did an aw Watch along which was great. Sorry we did Today. We're doing a cooking show. I'm going to cook dinner while I because people love the last one I did, so I'm gonna cook today. We're gonna have a little Super Bowl pre party on a Sunday. We're having a birthday party on my actual birthday, which is February ninth. Y. Yeah,
we're doing a lot of stuff. I'm really trying to make partner. So the one thing that's hard is you have to have seventy five people chatting at once for an amount of time, a long amount of time. And really yeah, yes, people come in and out, you know what I mean. So when like when Brian and Matt did the raid for me. I had I think over three hundred people in the room and you know, it goes up, it tapers off, but you have to have
a consistent average, right, So that's what's troubling me. I think the other two I have, it's just that third one. And once I get that, then I can make partner, which that's what I want to do. But I'm I'm doing tastings. I'm ordering like foreign food boxes. I'm doing live tastings to see reactions. I'm going to do a Spicy challenge because I hate spice, but they want me to do it, so I said, I will do it for you. You You know, I take requests. It's fine. I'm
having a good time on it. It's so much different than only fans. There's no pressure with Twitch, Like I can literally go with no makeup and a T shirt and no one cares, which I love about that. They just want to talk to me and that makes my heart happy. That makes me feel really good. So you know, some days I look better than others. But the whole point of it is to interact with fans and it's a great platform. I really really like it a lot. Awesome.
That's very cool, and just mention quickly piggybacking with the birthday party. So for our Patreon members and people who are joining this month, you have the opportunity to join us for a special private Zoom birthday party that we're going to have for the Queen of Extreme on February sixteenth. So it's going to be a couple of days before your birthday and we're going to get together with the members of the Patreon community and then everybody who we've
chatted with on the air. And I already have a guest list starting may have maybe one or two people pop in that you wouldn't expect I would love. Maybe possibly we love it. So I had Sail pop in on my Twitch chat this week. Oh very nice, very nice. There you go. Yeah, so you never know who could pop up and say hi. But we're gonna do a special little get together. I get to see everybody, and everybody I want to do a big happy birthday to you on the on the Zoom call, So a private
eyes up Here Zoom call. So if you're listening to this on Creative Control, joined before the sixteenth and get in so we can get you set up and it'll be fun. Well, Tuesday night are welcome, so you can join the cheapest level, the ten dollars everybody. Yeah, lovely, so looking forward to it. I'm glad that you are all right. Let's get this going here. We're gonna pull up the question there you are ask me almost anything. Your question might be answered on today Today's eyes up here. Okay,
so you're ready to roll, I'm gonna scroll down. Can you see it? Yes? Okay, so there's the first one. I have to give my urban this shout out because he's been awesome? What is my favorite disco infront of match? I mean, does anyone have a favorite disco in front of I'm kidding, I think disco is great. I liked his gimmick. Am I in the minority when I say that? I don't think so? I thought he was awesome. I thought he was awesome. Yeah, I don't but to think of a match, I can't think of one off the
top of my head. But I thought he was a great worker. Like everybody kind of craps on disco. I don't know why. I don't know. Do you have a favorite disco in front of I couldn't say a specific one. But again, I always enjoyed everything he did. I never, not once would say anything negative that people say. I know a lot of it's in a joking manner, but he's like his entrance. I mean the music, the look, the dance, you know, the chartbuster, everything that he did.
I was always a big disco fan, and I love listening to him now. And he's got a lot of cool things to say. He's always on the money with stuff so big. I'm a big discoing fernal fan. I know. I think Mike's trying to, uh to poke at me here with this one, but I'm not. I'm not giving in Mike. I can't. I can't heal him. There's nothing to heal. I don't know. Now, do you remember him or was he there when you popped into TNA. I
met him like a couple of times. He came to ECW to watch his friends were raven, So yes, you know I met him a few times, but I don't I don't know if I ever shared a lot. I don't think I've ever shared a locker room with him. So yeah, but we can do the Matthew's question. Yeah, was our co host here on Eyes Up here, and he asked, if you can travel anywhere you have not been, where would you like to go interesting. I had this question and asked on Twitch the other night as well.
I feel like I would love to visit any place that has a Disney Park. So I want to go to Paris. I want to go to Shanghai, back to Tokyo because I've been there twice, but I never got to visit Tokyo Disney. You know, anywhere where a Disney park is, I would love to go. And then I would love to see Australia because it looks absolutely beautiful. And right now, I just want to go back to Florida, and I know I've been there. I'm itching to get
back to Florida, guys. But there are a lot of places in the world that I've never been and probably never will be. But Australia looks just breathtaking to me, really looks. And Hawaii, I've never been to Hawaii. I want to go to Hawaii. Yeah, Hawaii is always I think on the I think the top of everybody's list if you want to go someplace. Australia has been a little intriguing to me as of late. I've never. I don't want to travel internationally. I'm a domestic kind of guy.
But I don't know why Australia seems very intriguing. Australia looks gorgeous to me, just what I've seen of it in videos and stuff. It just looks beautiful. I don't know. I mean, I don't see myself traveling anywhere foreign anytime soon. You know. I got a text message saying that my my signing coming up in May might be happening, and I was like, what this year? No, I'm not going anywhere this year. Alrea, He's like, yeah, you might have to.
And I was like, oh, okay, So I wasn't even expecting to go to uh two signings, let alone out of the country. But yeah, definitely where any Disney park is. It's a bucket list thing that will never happen Shanghai Disney. Just watching some of the videos, it's here's where it's kind of funny. They go back and forth between speaking their native tongue and English and they all do. It
throws you. It throws you off because you know, if you don't catch it, if you just pop on you know, Disney Parade, right and you hit it, and you walk away and you listen to music and you hear, you know, the familiar sauce, and then they go to talk. You're like, oh, I guess I'm in Shanghai Disney right now. And the rides are so amazing they blow every other park out
of the water. If you go to YouTube, type in Shanghai Disney and watch their version of the rides because they're all so new, amazing, amazing, just so jealous of people who get to go there. Got I love it all right, he's two in here and want to grab his second one. He piggybacked on himself. Tell five celebrity crushes. Good lord, I have no clue. Jeez, I don't even know. Uh. I can't even think of one. And I'm not counting wrestlers that, you know, it's just celebrities. I think of
movie stars, right, Who do I like? Who do I say? I like, that's a movie star? Yeah, I don't know. We haven't really talked about that. I don't know. I mean, there's several good looking leading men out there, but because of the pandemic, I don't even know who's working. How about Prince Hans of the Southern Aisles, no, thank you, no, thank you, big heal. I'm going to say that Matt's list is going to be topped by Alexa Bliss. Oh yeah,
for sure. He's so funny in twitch, Like every time somebody mentions like one of the girls, he's like, oh yeah, I met her, I love her, And I'm like, Matt, you love everybody. Just calm down, you like all the ladies, we get it. Have you seen on Twitter at all any of the clips of her and this transformation thing they're doing, you know what's going on with that angle. I don't get it. I don't know what they're doing with her. I don't know if she's supposed to be possessed. Yeah,
I don't get it. It's weird. It's like a possession thing. And I only see the clips on Twitter, but it's, uh, it's like she's under the spell of the fiend bray Wyatt. And because everything is you know, taped and cinematic, they do these transformations with her where she goes from like you know, the pink hair Alexa Bliss to like this thing happens and she's got like black eyes and like it's I give them credit for what they're doing. I mean,
it's very cool. It's just something I wouldn't necessarily see in wrestling. But they're really zoned in on focusing with her and doing these things. Well, I think she's the girl to pull it off. I mean she's uber talented. I've said it from day one, Like she she's the total package there. She can do everything and she's just adorable. So whatever they're doing with her, you know, she can do it. I just saw a picture of her. She had like black like skew coming like dripping down her face,
and I was like, what does that entail? What? What just happened? You know, I don't get it. Did she bite the head off a bat? Like? What's going on? There's so many different facets to what they've done with her, And again it's just about the possession and the weird things that they do. I mean they yeah, I'm sure they could have done that. I can't speak to it directly. All right, Francine, let's take a moment right here to talk about our sponsor, Manscaped. Is it possible Valentine's Day
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the road or backstage from a female valor valet? I guess who doesn't wrestle compared to a female valet who wrestles? Is it more k fabout in public? If you're just the I don't understand this car, Okay. So he's saying the difference in the road or backstage for a valet. So when you're traveling as valet before when we this is gonna be hard for you because you were always kind of involved. Maybe they're talking about like a maybe like a Miss Elizabeth style where she wasn't directly involved.
She was just a valet, so in public she was still gonna be just kind of nice even though she was a heel with macho man. You know what I mean? I think that's what. No, he's saying someone who doesn't wrestle compared to someone who does wrestle. But what am I compared to? Like, I don't get the question. What is the difference in the road or backstage? What does that mean? I don't know, But is it more k
fave out in public? If you're just a valet. That's that's where I was taking my Elizabeth comparison from, if you're just a valet, all he's talking is valet. I'm sorry, Jason, I don't get this question. Resubmit for the next one yet. I don't get it. Does that make sense to you? No, I'm confused. I'm trying. I don't get but tried, Lord Chris Papa, huh uh okay, we're just senior. The fight between ECW and XPW and heat Wave in California at the Olympic is there footage of the fight? And also
as a fan, that was awesome. Well, I'm glad you liked it because I didn't, and I don't think there's any foot of the fight. I don't know. I mean back then, it wasn't like you held up your phone. It was like World Star. I don't think that was a thing back in two thousand, you know, so probably no footage. If you held up your giant Nokia cell phone, everybody would record anything. Everybody would have been like, I guess he's trying to get a signal. Didn't we use
cameras that were the wind up once? You probably stopped at a seven to eleven to grab a disposable codec And I don't think anybody filmed anything. No, so sorry. Pro Wrestling Gaming congrats on being added to Virtual Basements Wrestling Code. Well, thank you very much on that. What this means to you, or I think he means. What does this mean to you? And what is your favorite video game? If you have one? It means a lot to me. I'm honored that they wanted to put me
in a video game. It's been a while, so I appreciate it, and I think I think it's gonna do really well. They have a lot of huge names that are involved, and I'm glad to be a part of it. My favorite video game. I used to love paper Boy. Do you remember paper Boy? Yes? Paper Boy was good. I remember it must have been in Wildwood. As a child, me and my niece Valerie. We we would get like five dollars worth of quarters and we'd go on the
boardwalk and we'd go to the arcade. We'd be there like all afternoon, and I would play paper Boy constantly. That's a good one. I love Donkey Kong, old fashioned Donkey Kong is a good one. I used to love Cubert. Never played Cubert. You never played cuberta. I liked Cubert. I liked you know, all the old school pac Man, this pac Man, just Centipede in Space Invaders. All the old stuff is what I like. Did you like to break the windows and paper Boy? Or were you just
get in the mailbox windows? Yes, you know, I didn't want to get penalized too much. But uh yeah, hit the old man when he's coming out, Chase what the paper is in great game? Genius idea. I know, I love that game. William Holtz. William Holts, When you were paid was an itemized by house show, pay per view, merch, et cetera. In other words, did you know what you were paid for each event or was it the same each week thanks, so you either were on a nightly or a weekly. I was on a nightly, so I
knew what I was making every night. So if I worked for two nights, you just take that one number times two. If you work for four times four, the weekly deal was better if you only worked a couple of nights a week. My nightly ended up being better for me because we were on the road four days a week, so I ended up making more than I would have if I had the weekly deal, if you
can understand that. But towards the end, when the shows were tapering off and we were only doing one or two, that's where I got the short end of the stick because people were still getting paid I'm sorry, the nightly deal. People were still getting paid their weeklies. So if you made one thousand dollars a week, even though you had
one appearance, you still got your thousand. Right. When we were doing four nights a week, I was making over one thousand dollars, so I was doing better then when I was making you know, doing one or two shows, I was making less, which kind of sucked, and we I was supposed to transition to a weekly. But then we got you know, we went out of business and there was no more. So it never happened. I was always on a nightly from day one. So you missed it by that much. I missed. I always missed it
by that. Now I'll tell you what this past week. I don't know if you saw there's a guy who named the Extreme Collector on Twitter who he got his hands on an original ECW contract and posted it like what the verbiage looked like? Who was it? I can't tell who it was because it was the name is blocked out, but it's from nineteen ninety nine March twenty first, nineteen ninety nine Independent contractor agreement. Now, did you have to renew every year? I don't remember. I don't know
if it was every year or every three years. I can't I don't remember what I did, to be honest with you. The independent contractor agreement between you and HHG Corp. A New York corporation located in Scarsdale, New York. YEP. So there you go. Yeah, it's interesting HHD Yep. No, look at this you got here. There's a lot of terms in termination we got here, miscellaneous probably different than a WWE contract, which you know we've come to find out over the years, is a little more ins and
outs of things. Yeah. I mean I had said this before too, Like I got my gimmicks taken care of my clothes and stuff, so that was in there. So I would have to provide him with my receipts for everything that I bought, and then I would get reimbursed. Yeah, everybody had a different deal, so you know that's how it went back in the day. Interesting. How about this next question from H Period. H period says, please name three pro wrestlers that you never worked with that you
wish you had a chance to work with. Well. Number one Sherry Martel. Yeah, I ugh, I cannot tell you how badly I wanted to work with Sherry because I loved her so much. I would love to work I said it a million times. If I was younger, I would work with dofh Ziggler in a heartbeat, because I feel like he's just amazing and I really like his work. Ah. And number three, I'll work with Brian Myers because he really wants me to be his manager and I really like Brian, so I would pick him. But uh, I'll
never get a chance to work with any of those three, sadly. Yeah, the boyhood dream would come true for Brian Myers. Yes, and Sherry. I mean again, I just you know, to think how you guys just missed each other. I was this close again, close to working with her, and she literally grabbed my hair in the back when we were talking. She's like, I'm ready to you know, and I was like, oh, my heart was like, oh, I can't wait. Never happened.
So do you remember Medusa mentioned I think in our third ever episode, the failed attempt to get her into ECW where they had like a pairing off with her and Cherry. Yeah, they did a deal in I don't know if it was out to Travel Lodge, but it was in one of the lobbies and they did a deal which you know, if you're not smart, it comes off as a shoot, it does. I just saw it for the first time. Oh did you It is awesome. Yeah, I mean it is like real, and Sherry, she's going
right for the jugular. Never happen and it never happened. Never happened. So just carrying it like straight, like I just wanted to find out who's the best and this and that, and Sherry's like, when you were running around in the AWA and you were sleeping with this guy and you were doing this, you had to go to Japan because you could have cut it. And I was on top. I was like, damn, this is like for nineteen ninety three, nineteen ninety four, like that was pretty
damn intense, pretty cool stuff. And Medusa said that she told Paul she wanted to come in and work with me. But I don't know why. I would have loved to work with Medusa. She was another I told the story, you know, when when I was just breaking into wrestling, she was on the radio station in Philly and she was doing an interview and I called in and they took my call and I got to ask her a question. Yeah, and you know the mark in me. I just I said, that's the first time I ever talked to you, and
she laughed. You know, it was funny. But I would have loved to work with her. Now I can't work with anyone, sadly. Maybe in the video game, maybe maybe we'll walk up in the video game. Matthew's my buddy, Matthew. This is the manager of Oh my God. We just had them on. Oh yeah, Sam a Donnas Sam a Donna's Oh my god, Sam, I'm so sorry. I love you. That's that's his manager right here. Uh. Did you realize at the time your table spot with the Pipulls would
revolutionize professional wrestling? Matthew very nice to say. I don't know if I realized anything. I did it. I mean, I guess Matthew thinks it did. I just wanted it to elevate my career. That's what I was thinking of at the time. So I wasn't thinking, oh, you know, it's it's going to revolutionize anything. I just wanted me to get to the next level and have people remember me. So I guess they do, which is great. Well, I mean, come on, in terms of female physicality, I mean that
was unheard of. So yeah, I'll be the one. You're not going to put yourself over, but I will absolutely fill in that gap. I mean again, in terms of female physicality, it was unheard of to see a female be folded up into a small little package the way that you got slammed through that that table. So yeah, you took one giant step for womankind. Oh thank you, No, it was good. I mean it was. It was I wanted to do. I wanted to be the first in something. So there you go. That was. That was the first,
and I'm glad I did it. How about at mister Parmi Parmie. Any favorite Balls mahoney moment, whether in the ring or backstage. I told this story when he was crying and he thought that that he ribbed him at the Golden Dome in Monaka and he sat there in his own filth and blood, couldn't find his clothes. I told this story before, and he was crying naked, and we were all like, Balls, please go put your clothes on.
He's like, you guys are ribbing me. And here he just moved his bag and forgot that he moved it. Nobody ribbed him, but he refused to take a shower because he had a promo and he wanted the blood to be on his face. Oh, Balls, I love you so much, my god. Yeah, the visual itself and the balls covered in blood crying, I mean, doesn't get any better than that. Is there anything else that you'd want to think about, you know? With balls, mahoney? No? You
know the visual, the visual? No, I love balls. Balls was a great, great man. Yeah, actually I just saw yesterday was the five year anniversary of Axel Rottam passing away. Yeah. I was in Disney World when I got the phone call, so I forget who called me and told me, and I was just devastated because I thought he was doing well. Yeah. A guy that I was with in Pittsburgh when I saw Shane last week was actually one of like the first people that had been notified about Axel. So we
were talking about it last week. But it's just hard to believe five years. I mean, like it's you know, that's a long time and you don't realize it. And to see, you know, I still see the picture that was shared yesterday of you and Axel and planting the old, big old smooch on you. Oh my god, did he He stuck his tongue so far down my throat. I was and I'm trying to like push him off at one point and just wouldn't move, And I was like, you, son of a bitch. You think those are supposed to
be pantomime, right, Listen. Some people take it a little too far. He was one of them. But he was a dear friend, so absolutely all right. How about James Kreamer and I like his name at franchised Kid with two D's thirteen Creamer. Yes, do you recall any great memories from any ECW house show from the Pittsburgh the Pittsburgh here's the Do you guys know that my memory is shat. I cannot remember anything. I couldn't tell you what we did at house shows in Pittsburgh. I'm so sorry.
I don't know that would be the Golden Dome, right, because that's monogod okay, so house shows would would be the smaller venues that we just had fun at. But I don't know what happened on certain shows in the Pittsburgh area. I couldn't tell you. All right, how about this one. Here's an ECW house show from December fourth, nineteen ninety eight. It just says from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So
let's see. Let's see what you did that night. Let's scroll through Nova and Tommy Dreamer versus Danny Doriing and Roadkill. You wouldn't have been with Dreamer yet, right ninety eight? No, No, December ninety eight. Let's keep going down. We've got to go to the top of the cart here if we want to find Franccene right, uh in the main events? How about this one ECW World Champion versus Masato Tanaka. Hm, So was that Shane? Did I say? Oh? I didn't
say who it was? The franchchise Shane Douglas. I'm sorry, don't remember it. Kind of a rare pairing. I think they they've had a few matches over the years. But uh, ninety eight, let me see, uh titter, where's Francene? That that? Do not see you mentioned in the final recap? Now, I know, I know Pittsburgh. That was shane'stown obviously, so I remember, you know, one day he had a barbecue at his house. We all went to his house, We all went to his mother in law's bar one night,
hung out there. But I couldn't tell you what we did at shows there. I just don't remember, which is awful. Now it seems like it was a regular town because here's October ninety eight ECW World Champion Shane Douglas taking on Sabou. So Pittsburgh got the good matches. I wonder why. I wonder, Yeah, a little partial maybe possibly, but yeah, so there you go. So there's two Pittsburgh house shows. She doesn't remember either one of them. I'm sorry, I
don't remember anything. I'm the worst. I am the worst. Two damn good matches Shane against Masato Tanaka. Sure we had video of it, it would start to jog my memory a little bit. But just saying, oh, you were there and you did that, I don't remember. So all right. This is from Lance Tiger Jungle or t Gray Jungle Vegas. Lance is on my twitch as well. Who would be your tag team partner to challenge for the women's tag titles?
Either WW or Impact. Well, first of all, I don't even know who the tag champs are and either fed, but I would have to go with Jazz because Jazz is just so great. And I know she's mixing it up. She's saying she's on a retirement tour, but I'm sorry, once you dip your toes back into the water, that retirement tour will last another ten years. So unless you have a plan in life and you're sticking to it, if you get successful, you know you might not leave
the business when you say you're going to. But Jazz is so good, Like I would pick Jazz. I don't know if she'd probably want to pick me, but I would pick her. Now, I like the veteran team there. It's a good veteran team. So you have the brains and the cunning, the cunningness of the Queen of Extreme and the brawn of Jazz. Yeah yeah, Jazz can Uh.
You know, Jazz and I worked together before we saw us, you know, beat up Jack Victory and Steve Carino, and we've worked against each other, we work with each other. She's just such an all around well rounded performer, just brilliant. Now, I'm going to pick your tag team partner for the current landscape. So I'm going to pick a current active I know Jazz is, but we're gonna talk about one
of the you know, the upstart, hungry superstars. I'm gonna team you with somebody that we talked about on this show because I'd like to see you bring out the fiery side. How about of Lana the Queen of Extreme and Lana Ah, she played her characters very down in the dumps. Oh I see, I haven't seen enough of her work. I've seen a lot of your help here. Huh she needs help? Oh well, I'm sure she's great and she looks great. I know that. I don't understand
why she just doesn't go with her husband. I'm gonna guess they're not letting her go. I'm gonna guess they're holding that contract over the old head and man just let punishing her. I suppose, but it's terrible that's the way they work. I can't imagine that. All right? How about Jesus twenty slash twenty one? Maybe it's a Zeus?
Oh maybe? Yeah, Heyzeu's twenty twenty one smiley face? Was there ever a spot or angle suggested to you at ECW and you said no, just the one towards the end, And I think I just mentioned it where Jack Victory and I were supposed to be on the ladder at the pay per view, somebody bumps into the ladder, we go for lying through a table on the outside. We weren't getting paid, so I was scared to do the spot, and Jack didn't want to do it either, so we said, no,
we're not doing it. We aren't doing it. That's my guy came. I mean, can you only imagine if that's the one where that's where the you know, God forbid, the bad injury happens is on that one when you're not getting paid and all that would have happened. You you cannot have two people go to the outside where there's a guardrail and a table and someone not get hurt. Yes, something would have happened, So no thanks. Let me ask you this. How about like with ladders, Right when you
see that ladder pulled out from underneath the ring? I mean, you know, who knows what happened under there? Who knows what happened before went under there? Have you ever seen like a rickety broken ladder that has to now be used because there is no other option? Yeah? Yeah, and I've seen it where they try to I don't know
are they called not the wrongs? The wrongs are what you step on, correct the side, things that you have to We've had it where we couldn't get it down so the ladder was like, so you have to hold it while somebody climbs it because that's the spot. I mean, you know, you try to have extras of things, but sometimes it doesn't work out that way. Improvise. You have to think on the fly. Now, what would you You could probably tell me better than anybody what would hurt
more a wooden ladder or a metal ladder? Oh my god, I don't think I've ever used a wooden ladder. I don't think a wooden lad I don't know Epstein would WW used to use wooden ladders every so well yeah, oh yeah, well oh yeah, they so basically well, I mean, you know, I say woulden. I mean they're more like those like breakaway style whatever they used to. I wouldn't say they're gimmicked per se, but they make that crunch noise as they fold into a million pieces. You never
had a wooden ladder, how about it. You're not a batter, You're just a wooden ladder. That's what I was thinking. Nay, yikes, all right, we're gonna do We'll do two more, okay, Jersey Cowboy forty three. Were there real issues between you and Beulah or was that blown out of proportion? Apologize if you have answered this before. No, there weren't issues with Buella and I. You know, towards the end, she wanted to leave, and she did and went to school, and I didn't talk to her for years until we
saw each other. I think the first time we saw each other, I was pregnant or no, no, I'm sorry I saw her before then I saw her when we did the paper. Duh, it was way before I was pregnant. We worked together, there were no issues, there's no issues to this day. I mean, she's truly one of the people that I can say I enjoyed working with, one of my favorites to work with, had great chemistry with her. The fans loved us together, and yeah, there wasn't there
was no heat, you know. So I just talked to her at Thanksgiving this past Thanksgiving. I asked her to come on the show too, and she said if she ever has something to promote, she will, But it doesn't look promising right now, so we'll see what happens. But yeah, dream guests, I said, dream guests, Oh, would you shut up? You're so pathetic? Good lord? What what I say? Too much? All right? And then this last one before we wrap it up, Twitch dot tv slash Mister Underscore to Underscore soon.
What was it like working with ECW basically your whole adult life. I basically just turned into adult when I started there, I was like twenty years old. The wrestling business is difficult. I've said this so many times. You have no social life zero. I've lost so many friends because I couldn't go to weddings, birthday parties, anniversaries, whatever
the hell it was. They didn't understand. And I would try to say, you know, if I missed this weekend, it's important to be there because your character is ringing into a storyline and if you're not there, then you're going to lose your TV time, You're gonna get heat from the office, and people who are not in the business don't understand that. And you really have to give one hundred percent of your life to this business because it's a twenty four to seven job and you don't
get vacation, you don't get breaks. It's there's no off season. So you know, a lot of my time was spent on the road with these people who became my family. And that's okay. I had a great time while I did it. Again, you know, I lost friends, but I gained new ones. I gained you know, family members, and I'm still close with them to this day. So you have a lot of first when you're on the road, you know, turning twenty one and just being with these people.
I can't even tell you the fun that we used to have being young, being free, not having any responsibility at home. It was a party. It continued to be a party for seven years, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. So awesome. What an experience, that's all I can tell you that. And just hearing everything, having known what I knew as a fan, and then getting to hear all the rest of the stuff all these years.
I mean, it is what an experience. And just anytime we read these questions, it just hammers home the impact made by what you did in that arena in Philadelphia the nineteen nineties, early two thousands. It's it's pretty goddamn remarkable. If you ask me, how about this last one? Last one one more Rob Shaggy the third? How awesome was it when they rated your twitch chat the other night? Oh, it was so awesome, and thank you Rob for rating.
It was overwhelming because it was the first time it happened, and I didn't know what was going on. So I literally sat there and we I think I said this before we moved it since but I had my notifications in the wrong place, so it was actually blocking my face so you couldn't see me. But the notifications just kept bum blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah constantly and I was trying to read everybody's name, and the chat was flying. It was overwhelming but great at
the same time. And I loved it, and I hope it happens again. I hope people keep raiding me and coming over and subscribing, and like I said, I have so much plans for that channel, and it's just it's blowing up. And I'm thrilled blowing up, grown up man bowing up. All right, Well, we'll continue these conversations and questions on Patreon this week. Are extra for Tuesday tomorrow.
If you're listening to this in real time, if you're on Creative Control, come over and check us out on Patreon, where if you join this month, you get the invite to the Zoom birthday party for Francene, a private one just with Twitch that's gonna be on Francine's actual birthday, but this one's just with us, with the family, and it's gonna be a lot of fun. And we'll continue answering more questions. This next one. It's a pretty good one to start with, so I like what I see
right out of the gate. Do you have anything Disney related? Before we get to Patreon just that I'm planning my trip and a few weeks out. Yeah, we are beyond excited and getting our restaurant reservations. Now. A couple places we wanted to go that we couldn't get a reservation, which I'm bummed about. But you know, I'm checking every day and seeing if people cancel. And crowd levels are extremely low, which is great, because the parks are closing
earlier too, which kind of sucks. You know. I'm used to Disney being open till ten at night, eleven at night, five six o'clock closing. It's crazy. I know, it's really a bummer. They're open, you get to go in a half an hour earlier in the morning. I'd rather stay later because we reach late starts. We rather stay later. But you know, we're doing the best we can, and we're just super excited. We bought a new we bought a new suitcase, another Mickey suitcase, and I can't even
tell you, I'm so excited. Came out of nowhere. Have I count there? I know. It was just we looked at each other and we were like, let's let's just book right now. And we went online and we just booked it. And because you know, you need reservations for the park. Everything was green wow, which means, hey, let's go. Crowds are low, let's get the hell out of here now. I will tell you everybody is aiming for the fiftieth anniversary in October. That's completely booked. You can't do anything.
So if you were trying to go in October, don't even try it because everything is completely book solid. Crazy. Yeah, and that fiftieth birthday is going to be They're gonna hold that over till twenty twenty two, so you'll have time if you want to go later. You just can't go when it's happening. But yeah, we are stoked and things are opening up, which is great, like certain plays
and shows and stuff are opening up. So I think California, California, Florida, Florida and Texas are like the two states that are really starting to get back to normal. And you don't even have to wear a mask in certain parts of Florida anymore. Disney requires you to wear a mask, so we have them. But it's good because if you want to sit down, they have places where you could take off your mask and breathe, and then you could take
it off while you eat and stuff. So it's going to be challenging because I have the kids, but we're going to do it. And I couldn't skip a year, Chad, I know you couldn't. I kept saying, you know, we're not going to go this year. It's not gonna be worth it. But then the more we thought about it, we were itching to go. We should be. We should have been there this past two weeks. This is my normal time to be there. But we're excited. I can't wait. We had our sixty day window ourselves, so we booked
our dining last week. Are you going for what for the dining? Yeah? Ah, my wife booked it. I don't know off the top of my Okay. Something in Germany they they have a German band that plays while you're eating, and then it's supposed to be like a buffet, but because of COVID they're not doing it. So they bring everything to the table and it's like family style. You get to eat and I'm not indigenous to like, uh, what is it brought, worst worse and all that stuff.
There's so many different things to eat at this thing, and they sing while you're do and you hold your beer up and you're like it at all. I think I think we did that years ago, years and years ago when I was a little kid. Oh fun, Yeah, I remember going to a German place. Now I'm I Liz did all that. It was last Friday night. She did all that with my aunt. They were texting back and forth and uh yeah, I was like, I was in the middle of five things. I was like, just
do it. You know. I never asked again. So planning is part of the fun. I was busy. God, you're such a turn You're missing out, Like I get excited just planning stuff. I was busy though. Whatever. I can't wait. I'm going to be blogging and you guys will see some of my stuff and I can't wait. You won't miss a minute of eyes up here action either. Yeah, we're gonna be working so hard next week. Isn't that awesome you guys in the loop, And yeah, you're not
going to miss anything, So don't worry. I I don't gyp anybody like. You'll get what you pay for. Hell yeah, the content will be there, so speaking to which for Patreon this week. All right, so we're gonna answer more questions. Okay, we already said that weird. I had that pre loaded and it just happened to fall that way. Right. So now here's the game I actually told you was gonna be called another game. Look at this one. I found this. This is great. Weird laws from around the world, true
or false? I don't know. Okay, it's so ridiculous, but I think it's gonna be very, very funny. Weird laws from around the world, Okay, makes you almost want to challenge some of them. I know we're law abiding citizens, but I don't know there's one of them. I ever get out of my home state and we get to Alabama. I'm trying what they what we can do? Weird laws around the world in Epcot, that's a good place, won't
be around the world. That's great, all right? And then finally I mentioned it on our watch along last week. We have never watched this before or anything from this. How about this Miss Tna Laingerie Battle Royal greatest thing ever? It's so bad, it's great. Oh you guys, this this thing. I have so much to say. I can't wait so much to say. I remember this. This is something that is etched in this brain of mine. So yes, I remember this well. And on the other hand, I have
basically no recollection of itsoever. And the fact that like, uh, not to say if I blinked, I missed your entrance, but you know, I might have blinked miss your entrance my entrance. I was one of the only people who they filmed entering. Everybody else got shafted awful. Yeah, I filmed like the first four girls entrances, and then everybody else they were just calling random names the wall memes and girls were coming down the we'll talk about it. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. It's it's a weird, weird order of entry. Yes, so that's what we'll talk about that though on Patreon this week. And uh, if you want to follow me, it's at Chady and b. If you want to go to my website, it's ibexclusive dot com. Have something brewing with this one right over here, a very exclusive limited print of her and the franchise Shane Douglas that we will be getting signed in the next month or so. So go to ibexclusive dot com for
all that information and so much more. A lot of baseball stuff going on, and appreciate everybody for doing so. Oh across the board, I am at ECW Diva Francine. Please come over to Twitch, follow me, subscribe to me, give me all your bits, I'll take them all. I'm also at ecwdva Francine over on Twitch. We have a lot of fun. There's a schedule up there that you can follow as well, and cameos. Cameos are hot right now. Been doing the bikini ones for Valentine's Day and they
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