A Little Bit Of Everything

couldn't hear her and she can't see me. We're like a perfect like Helen Keller. Duo. Oh god, no, that's so terrible to say. Don't stay done. You know what I think happened. I had to get a separate piece for my what's this called? Set up my computer? Hard? No, what's it called? Not a PC? Not? Not? I mean not a was it desktop? Desktop? Say? This is ella savvy I am? Because I wanted to stream poker on Twitch. So we had to buy a doppel Is that what

that's called? We had to buy a piece to add to uh, you know, so they can see where I live because you know, gambling is only legal in certain states or whatever. And I was able to stream last night, which was a success. It was lots of fun and great and all that stuff. But for some reason, it lagged me out of everything. So when I tried to get into my email, like it says we need your password, I was like, I forget it, and I'm trying all these passwords and it kicked me out of my Twitch.

You can't. It kicked me out of all my accounts, and it messed with my microphone. That was quite the technical infrastructure you had to tackle right before we started. But I'm going to give you credit. You did a great job. I can hear you crystal clear. I was going deaf while you were doing it because it was it was like shocking me in my ears. I had to put my headphones like this. But you didn't give

yourself a hand, all right, I will thank you. Yeah, you know, Hubbs is the tech wizard and he's not here and I'm just alone. So I'm just trying to click different buttons and unplug things and plug them back in, and I think I did it correctly. So so does this poker? Does this open up a new world for you? Now that you have this thing to track your gambling. It opens up a new world on Twitch because I was kind of looking for something else to do on there, and I was like, okay, so I do an aaw

watch along. I answer questions all the time like it's just chatting whatever. I took them pull side. They seem to have flect that a lot. But I was like, I wonder why, Okay, I can't imagine why. And then I tried gaming, you know, and that's okay. And I said, well, I play poker anyway, and I really enjoy it. Why don't I just throw it on twitch and see if it sticks? And I did a tournament last night and

I actually finished in the money, which was fun. But I was on there for like three and a half hours, and you know, I have to I think I have to play earlier in the day because that's a long stretch for me. But it was good and I enjoy it, and I'm gonna venture out and try that from them on so it's something to add to what I do. I saw your tweet and I was like, this is like past bedtime here now. I was sitting I was literally yawning, and I'm like, I'm so sorry, it's not you,

it's me. It's just tired, and I was I wanted something to drink, but I didn't want to leave. You know, I wasn't prepared. I didn't bring anything with me. I brought like two SIPs of a ginger ale and that did not last for three and a half hours. So I was parched. I was hungry, which it didn't let me snack, which was good because sometimes I'll go and I'll get a little snacky poo late and that's not good. So I didn't snack last night. But I was exhausted.

I was tired. Did you see cards in your head all night? Like numbers and cards? Yeh? I just you know. I My problem is I just need to slow it down because early on I had pocketjacks and the other guy I thought was just being a turd and he was raising and I'm like, oh, he's probably got ace king, he's got nothing. And here he caught something like on the turn road or the river. And if you don't know what this is, look it up. But Chad looks like he's very confused. But I don't know what the

hell you're talking about. Well, we put our cards over. I was in the lead, and then the guy caught something as the cards flipped, and so I lost and I had to shoot another bullet, which means I had to pay another ten dollars. So I actually bet twenty and one at thirteen and change, so I took a six dollars and change loss. But it was for twitch, so it was good and it's building my hours up and hopefully I'll gain some new poker people that didn't know me from wrestling. So I don't know. I'm just

trying stuff, you know me. I just try until it works, and then like two years you'll be on the celebrity poker toy battling, you know, battling like you know, like NFL greats and like you know, like former like singers and stuff. And Francine sitting there with her poker face. I wish we get your poker face. Let me see a poker face. Well, you don't need a poker face online. I just want to see your poker face. You have one, Yeah, it's like this is it gonna call? Oh my god,

do I have anything? Oh my god, I have all the tails right on my face. Being like I'm telling you, people wear like sunglasses. They have a hoodie over them so you can't see anything. And it's just like I don't. No, I get very nervous when I play, and I need to just control myself and calm down because I'm a decent play I know, wear a mask. I'm a decent enough player. I know the rules and stuff. But I'm over zealous sometimes, so I just need to slow it down a little bit. Yeah, but I do enjoy it.

So last night was a lot of fun, and I think the people watching had fun too, And I was I dropped some F bombs and oh, I know, and I didn't mean to, and I just kept going, sorry, sorry, it was just not me. But you tend to curse when you when you get a bad beat sometimes, So was it just a straight curse or combination word? Was it like I used? I used son of a bitch a lot. Yeah, I was using that one a lot. I think I dropped the F bomb two or three times.

But I apologized and everybody was laughing at me. So overall, a great success. Do you So do you like completely like hide cursing from your kids as much as you can? Oh? Yes, absolutely, you talked about it before, but you know, just like they if they say like any do they know like X word is like a trigger semi curse word, and they stay away from it. Yeah, they don't curse. But once in a while, these YouTube videos for kids will have cursing in it, and I'll go whoa hey, and

they'll go sorry. They freak out on me, Like if I'm doing something in another room and I say ship or something, I'll hear a swear word, swear word, and I'll go sorry and don't say that. Mom. I know I said that. I'm so sorry, but like you hardly hear. Like we never say f in front of the kids. It's we try not to, you know. I try not to curse it all in front of them. And that's

the way to be. I agree, and I'm I'm pretty good. Uh. Brie was watching something at the table the other day and it said like what the hell, and I go, what are you watching? And she goes, I don't know. I was looking it off of it. Then I'm not really sure what this is. But uh, I'm just flabbergasted by the amount of cursing in these videos that are aimed at kids. Yeah, and they should not be on YouTube.

In my opinion. Maybe I'm just approved. But for you know, if you have younger children and there these are the kids who are clicking these links, they why do they have to drop an F bomb or say a curse word at all? It just I don't get it. It's an interesting little thing though, because I've seen it more like penetrate, not just these kids videos and YouTube videos, but journalism headlines, you know, more free to speak it

on TV. And it's one of those things where it's like these are still taboo words, and especially if you read it in an article and then you just like this, if it's an opinion piece and the journalist is cursing drop an F bomb, I think it kind of takes away the credibility of the piece because if you're needing an easier word, maybe getting a little more creative and

think of something that could fill in the blank. You know, It's funny too, because like a lot of wrestlers who use profanity, I've heard time and time again people say, well, they're only using it to get cheap heat. They only curse to get cheap heat, you know, And sometimes it is appropriate and other times it's overkill. So you got to pace yourself. Yeah, I mean, I've had that conversation with Shane, and he's the one who i'd put at

the top of my head of work. But he and I have had that same discussion of certain places it doesn't belong. It's different in the entertainment realm. You read a book and there's an F bomb, it's like, all right, it's part of the story. You're watching a movie, there's an F bomb. That's part of the story. Wrestling. Wrestling could be real, so there's part of the story. You drop an F bomb and makes it that much more,

you know, like impactful. Well, you're just reading a story, you know, especially like you know, during the tru presidency, you just see journalists dropping F bombs and you know, ship and this, and then it's like that's easy way out of writing an article or writing a piece. And I just I don't like, I personally don't like to read that stuff. Not to say it's not just with him, it's with everybody, but I just I hate that person. Yeah,

I don't know. I just I look back on some of the promos that I did, and I'm like, oh, I shouldn't if they if they removed the word bitch from television for you, you would have like two words. That joking joking, I'm joking. I was talking with somebody this week and we were we were discussing a few weeks ago how you and I were saying, you know, wouldn't it be funny if WWE bought Disney or Disney bought w W W w EE at Hollywood Studios. Well, this week they had a shitload of cuts. I don't know,

I saw now. Wasn't it the was it the iconics or was that the prior one? That was the prior one? They did less of the talent releases this time, and more of the corporate releases this time, and just straight up virons and they clean house. Wow, So numbers must be really bad, because no numbers are good. They're keeping

them up. They just felt some of the positions were redundant, I mean money wise, because that's I mean usually they do these budget cuts every year and they get rid of a whole lot of people every year, and I honestly feel like coronavirus just cut into their budget terribly. Yeah. I don't know, Uh, you know, personal heat between the workers and like the the higher ups. Like somebody said, that Kevin Dunn hated the one iconic Billy Kay And I'm just like she was so over like that group

to me was like so over. What was the Is it personal beef? Like? What is getting in the way? It just I don't know. I don't get it. I can understand money wise, but when you go after like people that are really good for the company, hard working, getting over doing their job well, and then you just get rid of them. That's why I always said anyone is replaceable. Yeah, you know, they just don't care. So

I don't know. And the iconics, I mean, I gotta tell you probably not replaceable immediately, because where are you gonna find two Australian walents that are a team together that managed to have their unique ability to get heat and then become very love But they're from Australia. You would think that that's a box that's not gonna come along every five minutes. Two Australian girls that you could pair together like that, they'll they'll just give that gimmick

to someone else. When we had Jazz on, you remember what she said. She came up with a tremendous storyline and they loved it and gave it to someone else and it was her idea, and it's like, are you kidding me? Like I just I don't know, I don't know. It just makes me happy that I'm not involved in that world anymore because it's so frustrating, Like I could just imagine those poor girls and the guy is just frustration. It doesn't look like the same business when you watch

it on television anymore. And I just got done watching what we're gonna watch for our watch long. I watched the lead up, you know, the show going into the match, and it just does an uneasy w being separately and it's all cool, entity it just doesn't look like you're watching the same thing anymore. Yeah, you know, I don't watch, so I'm not. I'm always told you're not missing anything.

I'm just not. It makes me sad, though, because I was such a huge fan back in the day and now I could care less and I couldn't care less. Rather is the expression, but it's it's terrible. It's terrible to feel that way. And I used to get excited for wrestling. I used to I used to run to my girlfriend's house to watch raw because I didn't have cable nine o'clock at night. I would run the street watched her, you know, to watch an hour's worth of

wrestling because I couldn't see it online. And that was technically during a down period. Well for me, that was that was like my that was my Monday was complete. I just had to have that that hour wrestling and I was all week. It was a build up. I looked forward to the next that's so awesome. Yeah, and that's not that's not here anymore, like there's I don't

crave it anymore, you know. And that to me doing that New Generation Era podcast that I do, you know, it's it's basically we're talking about shows that were an hour and how much they crammed into that hour. Never never a loss for a minute, but to see how stuff developed, see how it played out. You couldn't miss it because it was that one hour a week that you had to get in and locked in. And it's like,

I'm not saying to go back to an hour. You guys had an hour and the you know, you did you know the for the most part, right almost all up until TNN, right, it was no, we had an hour. We had an hour. It didn't extend, No, you got an hour TV and look how much you guys got done. And that to me is the beauty of it. And that's why I said, it's not the same kind of business. When you put on a wrestling show, it just doesn't

and sports entertainment whatever, it just it doesn't feel the same. Also, I feel like when you extend it to two hours, three hours, whatever it is, it's a lot of filler. It's a lot of stuff that fans are going to go to the bathroom, go make a sandwich, go get a drink because they don't care about it. It's a lot of talking, unnecessary talking. It doesn't mean as much anymore, and it just it just bothers me because I want

to love it. I want to. I want to have my DVR loaded and sit down on a Saturday afternoon and want to watch it. But I don't. Yeah, I just don't. And that again, it's nothing against the workers. The workers are tremendous and they can do some great things. It's just the product itself that turns me off. Right now, I don't think I'll ever be a huge fan again, I really don't. Plus, I'm older, there's different things going

on in my life. You know what I mean. Like some people say, oh, I've grown out of wrestling or whatever, and some people have been lifelong wrestling fans and they're struggling with today's product. You know, when I do the watch alongs, there's one guy in there who is absolutely every week punped. I think it's Sam. I think his name is Sam. He's a twenty year old kid, absolutely

loves the product. And while the chat's going on, everybody's asking me questions about eastw Sam always comments about what's happening on AW every single week, and I'm just like, Sam's pumped, He's ready to go. He loves this. He's like, I just love wrestling, and I wish I was there and I used to be there like twenty something years ago, but I'm not there now. So it's crazy. It's just crazy, I mean, you know, and that's you from studying the business as a fan and having worked in production and

around the guys, I feel the same way. So I think it's just the era and that's that's it. The era is done. But here's the other side of it. This is better for you in the long run because people are going to be clamoring to see the older stars, and I think that the vintage stuff is what is really going to carry the history of wrestling now. Is anything basically before twenty ten is really now. I think is going to be more in demands of the conventions.

And from what I've seen about the conventions that have happened, the one you went to and there was another one since people are coming back, yeah, yeah they are. Well, people want to get out, but I think that the product is causing people to want to go see the older stars too. That could be it. I still think everybody has cabin fever and they just want to get the hell out of the house, you know. But yeah, I I don't know. It's it's you either love it

right now or you don't. There's really no middle ground. You know, You're either all in or you're just you're just changing the channel. And most people are changing the channel these days. So I think it'll be better once, you know, the fans start to come back to these shows and there's live audiences again, and especially for the workers, like we've said it time and time again, it's so hard to work in an empty arena, you know, And and I tip my hat to them, especially if you're

a heel working off no energy whatsoever. So I feel like at least for the workers, momentum will go up because the crowds are coming back. So that's a good thing. Yeah, Jesus, they're going to go house show touring again. Wow, that's like house show business was down in the pits before coronavirus, and now it's like a twenty five city tour they announced. And I gotta be honest with you, that's all they should announce. They shouldn't pick up all those little shows

because that's what drove the business model down. Keep them in the big areas. Well. I'm sure they're happy with, you know, the paychecks that they're going to get, because their pay is going to go up. But it's just what a weird what a weird year it's been. It's just crazy. Was the twenty twenty one supposed to be better? Like wasn't It's? Well, I think it's getting better, you know, I honestly think it's getting better. I don't you know,

maybe you can enlighten me on this. And I don't mean to stir shit up, but I don't understand, like, you know, certain states are lifting the mask mandate and they're saying, well, you can go in these stores, you know if you're vaccinated, but we're not allowed to ask if you are or not. So don't you think just people who are just sick of wearing mask and not vaccinated just going to go in there and not wear

a mask? What is the what is the point? It's the honesty system or the honor code, and I just don't think people are going to follow that. And I don't I don't understand the whole. I don't I don't get it. I saw an interview with Biden and he had said absolutely no vaccine passports, which I am in favor of. I I don't think I can't do that, no way. I'm one hundred percent and in agreement. I

hope he doesn't change his mind down the line. But it's like, why even emphasize if you're vaccinated, like you don't have to wear a mask, Like no one's going to wear a mask if they If you don't have to share your card unless you're paranoid, then you honestly think the mask is protecting you. I don't know. I find it odd pulled it out. It's in my pocket from this morning because I had to run some errants. I personally feel if I go in there I didn't

give accinated. I go in there and I don't have this thing on that I'm going to get scrutinized and I'm going to have somebody pick a fie with me or start with me, And I don't really don't want that. So I'd rather them need keep this on and them no I didn't give vaccinated, than have it off and potentially run into an issue now where it was vice versa two weeks ago. Yeah, so you know my state

mask mandates lifted today? Actually no more mask right? Really? Wow, I didn't know that in September the kids still have to wear masks to school. Okay, that pisces me off to no stupid, it's so dumb, so stupid. Then I read Children's Hospital is giving out COVID vaccines to twelve and over, no parental permission required. Now, okay for a twelve year old, you're not gonna get permission from your parents. In Canada, they're offering free ice cream cones to children

to just come and get the vaccine. Who the hell's gonna let their twelve year old just go wander off and get a vaccine, which isn't even a vaccine, but go get this shot and not have a parental figure with them. And now they're offering money to the adults because no one wants the vaccine anymore. Oh my god, a free beer. It just foggles my mind. I don't understand. Did you see the clip of the New York City

mayor with hamburg Oh, it's the most disgusting. He's talking about how get your vaccine and get a what do you call one of the certificate for a burger from Shakeshack Right, So as he's talking about it, he's eating the burger, but he's enjoying every every every brite. Oh yeah, Oh isn't this worth vaccine? Yeah? One burger in my life is gonna be worth it. One freaking stupid hamburger. I know the incentives. You can wipe your butt with them. Now. I did get my hair cut, okay, and I had

it on going in. Well yeah, exactly. Well yeah, they're all it's all white now, so I get my yeah, my sideburns. Oh my god. She when she hear and I was like, where I thought they used to have a brown outline, this white outline underneath. So last time I went to get my haircut. You needed the mask on while you're getting the haircut, okay. And the lady who cut my hair complaining about masks the whole time, very funny. She was very uh, you know, it was entertaining.

Same lady. This time, I go in with the mask on. I'm not paying attention to everybody. Nobody had a mask on, ladies sitting there, two ladies behind the counter. I just wasn't paying attention. I'm just used to going in having it done. And I started to walk around the counter and I go, oh, do you want this on? She goes, nobody else is wearing it. You could take it off. I go, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, here's again like

I don't wish harm on anyone. I don't want, you know, a year from now, people, you know, getting all these health things coming up because of this vaccine. But I just don't feel like it's for me or for my immediate family. You know, I'm so definitely afraid that down the line something is going to happen. And you know, people are saying I'm ridiculous and I'm this, and I'm that, and I should just go get the shot. I'm not getting it. I'm not putting that into my kids' bodies

like that's to me is ridiculous. I'm just I don't know. I don't wish harm, and I hope I'm wrong, but I just feel like something bad is going to happen with this vaccine. And I pray to God that I'm wrong. But even if I am wrong and everybody's okay and Corona goes away, I'm still okay without it. So you know, I'm taking my chances, but I don't want to get it. I'm right there with you. And I told somebody the other day who we were just talking casually, and I said,

by the way, I don't know. I you can see I'm clear now. It's because you'd finished. I look great, don't I. So I was talking to somebody casually and just the vaccine came up quickly, wasn't We weren't even talking about it. And he goes, well, I got I had to get it because I worked this close to children, and Bob, I go, He goes, but I didn't want to get it. I go, okay, I go, I'm not getting in. I go. You know it's not political. I said, it has nothing to do with it. I go, you know,

don't feel comfortable. That's really it. It's not nothing to do with it. And he goes, oh, well, mine was completely political. I had to do it. He goes, because all I was going to face scrutiny. He runs a gymnastics gym. And he goes, If I didn't get it, people were gonna pull their kids out and this and that. I had to get it. You know, your body, your choice. That's that's the way I look at it. But I'm

so tired of people. Like they'll tell me I got the vaccine, like, and I go, yeah, exactly, and I'm like, oh well, I'm like, I answered back, that's great. I hope you know, I hope you don't have any side effects. I'm not going to get it. And then they holler at me because I'm not getting it. But I didn't holler at them for getting it right, you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't you can't win. I'm just like, I'm so tired. I'm so tired of this, Like, just

get the hell out of your corona away. Let me ask you a question. Do you think buff Bagwell was wearing his mask when he he got pulled over the other day. I think buff Bagwell was wearing it over his eyes because this guy great segue. By the way, Yeah, let me do my buff thing. Yeah, oh there you go. Well look and you got the high and the glasses you were. That's right, a dead ringer for mister Bagwell. Former w W WCW star Marcus buff Bagwell arrested on

more than ten charges. Ten that's a lot. That's a that's like, that's like a year's worth of rest. That's what we call. That's what we call in my neighborhood, a shitload. So buff is now fifty one years old, was involved in another corner crash. I suppose. Uh, And they're saying, let me see was this When did this happen? This was like, uh, we're recording this Friday. I think this was Monday or Tuesday. This dropped. Okay, So here

are the charges. Misdemeanor driving under the influence of drugs, misdemeanor open container violation, four misdemeanor charges of hid and run, misdemeanor speeding, misdemeanor failing to yield when entering an intersection, misdemeanor giving false name or address of birthday to law enforcement officer. Three name Scotty Riggs. How you doing no?

I love Scotty Riggs. Three charges of following too closely and a misdemeanor reckless driving and a misdemeanor driving with a gore or meetan or emergency lane, misdemeanor duty upon striking a fixed object, misdemeanor driving on the wrong side of the roadway, and a misdemeter license to be carried and exhibited on demand, which means he didn't he didn't have his license correct that I don't know. That's way

too inside Lingo for me. And exhibited on demand. I would think he'd get or some sort of papers, whether it was licensed registration. Okay, so that equals ten. Goodness gracious. It says he was bonded out of jail on that Saturday after getting booked at two of five the same day. He was out at nine fifteen, so in the morning at night. I'm sorry. The car crash was in August, by the way, Oh, okay, got it. That was But this one I think he did. He hit four different cars.

What is the deal with this? Somebody said he was on prescription drugs at the time. Well, I could see it. It's troublesome. That is very troublesome. I mean he looks. I mean no offense to Buff love. Buff had many a laugh at Buff. He looks, He looks terrible. He looks different his picture. When I saw his picture, I didn't even think it was him. I was like, do they have the wrong picture? Up? Didn't even look like him to me. Buff carneed me and John very badly at a at a show do tell the story and

ended the relationship with Buff. He just tould Shenanigan's about hotel rooms and flights and transportation after everything was already taken care of. Last minute, no, no no, last minute. It was you know, he had to fly his girlfriend with him. We would that was not a part of the deal. He needed he needed the flight paid for, and he needed to upgrade his room. He needed the room paid for. And it was like, you know, Buff, like you were so cool, literally up until it was time to say goodbye.

You could have said this two hours ago. We could have worked on it or something like that. Did you not fulfill his needs? What do you think? I don't know. We had to take care of because there was still another booking to go to. Every see I would have said, note, you're done. It was about flying your girlfriend in. We gave I think we know we gave him half in the meantime, how about flying my family and and putting us up at Walt Disney World. The whole thing was

go in. He was supposed to go in and out same day. Okay, he's gonna be going late, late night flight flight back to Georgia. How did you know, did a very convincing story about him. I want to stay in the hotel room by himself. You know, has a fear about that because the things that have happened to the boys. Blah blah blah. All right, we get it changed, the flight brought the girlfriend, needed the girlfriend's flight paid for, then had to upgrade his room, had to get the

upgrade paid for. So we had to meet him in the middle kind of thing. And did this as we were saying goodbye to go meet him at the next booking that we had that night. Yeah, didn't like it. Didn't like it. No, and stuff like that will not get you booked to. Hasn't worked with them since, no, I know. And he looked great, he was buff. That was in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. Yeah, great, he was ripped. He was painting on his hair. He looked like Buff painted on his It was. It was hot as balls

was August. He kept on wiping the brow, checking the hair, making sure the hat was on. He was. He still looked exactly like Buff. That guy in that picture troublesome. It makes me sad to see like all these people who are just falling apart, you know. It just and I don't know him. I don't know him. I might have met him once, you know, but I don't. I don't know him well at all. But just you know,

the brotherhood of the wrestling world. It just makes you sad to see, like when people do that to themselves. So it's it's sad to uh to read articles like that. I don't like it. Yeah, you know what's interesting with him though, And I think, especially in my case in dealing with him, I just feel like I'm one in the many that he's probably done that too. Oh yeah, and burn bridges across the way, So who wants to book him anymore? And then he was because he was clean,

presumably he had just had shoulder surgery. I mean again, he looked great. He looked like how he did on TV in the nineties. He looked awesome, and that was only five or six years ago. Yeah, and I think in those last five or six years he's just burned bridges and he's just kind of got a bad reputation. And he still thinks it's nWo flying first class everywhere he goes. No, I'm serious, I really think that. And when that stopped and people didn't, he just kind of crumbled.

He fell apart. There's a ton of interviews. I know you're gonna be doing a Hannibal interview. He did an interview with Hannibal that I think was the first little crack in the armor exposing what was going on. He sounds like he's blasted out of his brains. I you know, I honestly feel like a lot of the boys can't let go. Yeah, they think it's still their heyday, and you know, like we're not on TV anymore. We're not

in our twenties and early thirties. You know, we're in our late forties, fifties, some of them are in their sixties. But they still feel like they need to live that rock star lifestyle. And it's hard because when this is all you've ever done with your life. It's hard to just go to like something normal and get like a normal job. And it burns me up when fans are like, oh he works at Target. Now, oh he's a garbage man.

Oh he you know, he does something other than wrestling, like beneath them, And I always say, what is wrong with that? They're providing for their fans. They're working. It's a job, like stop, you know, what is your job? What do you do for a living? That's so glorious that you have to make fun of somebody for working at a target or being a sanitation worker. Anybody who has a job providing money for themselves and their family is okay in my book. You know, I feel like

there's so much pressure to just maintain that. And now it's considered like a fantasy anymore, because we're not the people that we were twenty years ago, just an image of them. Some of us are still hanging on trying to stay relevant. But with me, like I found a common ground. I know I'm not the Francine of twenty years ago. I get that, and I'm okay with that, you know, and I do what I can do because

I'm having fun with it. And it is a job and I do make an income from it, but I don't go out there, you know, thinking I'm still the shit from nineteen ninety six. I know, I'm forty nine years old. I'm a mother of two. You know. My main priority in life is being a mother to my children and taking care of my family. That's where my mindset is at. The wrestling falls a very distant second, right, And I do it because it's fun and it does help with bills. But I have learned to let go

of that whole. You know, Oh, she's the Queen of exture. No, I'm just the mom, you know, I'm just the mom hanging out and if people want to meet me, that's a bonus. But these guys go to these signings and still demand this, that and the other thing, and it's

like we're past our prime. Like you know what I'm trying to say, And I'm not trying to really do I'm not trying to disrespect anyone, but you have to look at it in real time and not get into a time machine and pretend it's twenty thirty years ago and look at it that way. That's not the way I look at it. And I feel like people would live a better life if they could just separate that

in their minds, you know what I mean. And I know people have demons, and I'm blessed that I never fell down that rabbit hole with like drugs and alcohol and stuff like that. It's terrible. Addiction is a terrible thing. But a lot of these guys that's all they know. And it's like that movie The Wrestler when you see him sitting there and one or two people come to the table and it's just him looking around. That broke my heart. That was so hard to watch, and I

told myself, I will never get to that stage. And it's just sad because a lot of guys are there. Yeah, they won't let go. If you go back to when The Wrestler came out two thousand and six issue or something, or two thousand and whenever, it was the conventions that were about ten years prior to that movie coming out, is exactly what that movie looked like by that point. It evolved a little bit, that was a little more

of a dramatic take. But if you went back to looking at the guys that were at the audio, not even conventions, they were more just card shows and you'd see them. Yeah, you'd see the older guys and you'd see they're walking with kine, they got the prosthetic leg, they got this, but they're the old old timers. That's what that movie portrayed. But what it also portrayed was

exactly what you're talking about. The guys that he looked how he looked in that movie The Long Hair, the Tan, he was still doing this and he's walking through his job. He's walking through the what the meat department, and he comes to like he was walking through the entrance. I thought that was so well done and give you a real look into real life that it kind of hit home.

I'm sure for more people in your generation and a little bit before you and your generation, not the old old timers that were old timers when you broke in. Those are the guys that I think they were kind

of portraying in that one, you know, autograph show scene. Yeah, it's just it's heartbreaking to watch, you know, And it might be different for me because I am a female in the business, and you know, I have other things going on, and it wasn't my lifelong dream to be in professional wrestling, So it's you know, I'm not at the same level as the other guys with the mentality of the business. Right. I always knew there was something more for me in life than just wrestling, and that

was to have a family. And you know, for me, like if I never did another convention again, I'd be okay, it wouldn't kill me. I do enjoy them. I do enjoy meeting fans and stuff. But like I tell you all the time, I pick and choose where I want to go. My time with my family is way more important. And I'm not going to leave the house for a couple hundred bucks. Like it's just and I don't mean to sound like a dick about it, but that's just where I'm at. And people want to pay, that's great.

And if they don't want to pay, understood us, stay home and I'll enjoy my time with my family. That's where I'm at. I love that. I personally love that because that's the priorities of life, and that's that's you know it really for me to hear that from you, I love to hear it. It's like it's it's a real heartwarming thing. But I remember just going back to

real jobs. Let me ask you this if you if you were in a position where you had to work, right, you had to work, but you still had yourself out there. You still do when conventions are you know, shot in an Indian you know, just appearing, not not wrestling, but appearing. Yes, would you hide what you did from your job? Your job? Like, would you like I'm saying, if you had a job, would you try to hide the wrestling side of your life? You know, I've said this before, like I never talk

about what I used to do unless it's necessary. Right, when I started with a chiropractor, I had to tell them what I did because I was so messed up. It's you know, oh I fell down the stairs. Yeah, they thought you were crash dummy. There were so much wrong with me, so I had There's certain things that I had to tell certain people. But like I told you countless number of times when my children were in school and I volunteered and I practically lived at the school,

I never once mentioned what I did. You never know what that other person is thinking, you know, And I don't like when people look at me funny or judge me for what I've done in the pan, Like I would probably just keep my mouth shut and if somebody had mentioned it they recognized me, then you're like, because there's that one guy who's just like this, you staring. You know, I'm not one to say just say it. I just keep it under wraps, and if it came up,

it came up. But I'm blessed because, you know, I don't have to go and get a desk job or work retail or anything like that. I'm married to a man who has a very very good career, and I work because I like to help and I like things for myself. And I don't want to go to my husband and say, hey, can I have fifty dollars because I want to buy some makeup? Or can I have this because I want to dress. No, I want to work and I want to buy it myself, and I don't want to bother anybody. You know, I want to

earn my own money, but I do. You know, Like this year that just passed, I gave a considerable amount of money towards Disney, and I was proud of that because I worked hard for it and I was able to pay and get us a nice trip. And that's what I like to do. I like to contribute and I do it when I can, But I'm sorry, I'm not going to leave my house for some shitty offer. It's not happened. I and a lot of guys have to do that because this is their bread and butter.

You know. I understand not everyone can hold out for the number that they want because they have to pay their bills. I get it. That's why I'm lucky enough to be in a position where I can hold out and if I don't want to go, I just simply don't go. They turn it down, they might not get something to work that weekend, No, and then what do they do. You know that those are the men who have nothing to fall back, one who didn't you know, didn't save their money. They need to eat, they need

to pay pills. I understand that, you know. But they're also part of the group that can't let go and who feel like I'm not going to get a job they don't want to. I don't know. I've heard some guys say that's beneath me. I was on tape, was this, I was that, And I'm just like, oh, you know, And if that's the mentality, then so be it. If you like hustling and getting out there every weekend because some of the boys are addicted. It's like a drug.

They're addicted to the business, you know what I mean. But are you addicted to these shit paydays that you're getting and they can't help it. You might get an offer for two fifty the one weekend and then twelve fifty the next weekend. It's crazy how it fluctuates. Yeah, and some of these guys they don't they don't have a choice to turn it down. They have to go. I understand that, but I just for me, it's that's not what I that's not what I want to do.

So I remember, you know, gosh, fifteen years ago whatever it was, and it was very public at the time, and it was around the time I was going to shows with them. But when PJ was working for the Olive Garden or he had I don't know how that got out. Somebody saw him working for Olive Garden and it was, oh, why he works in a restaurant. Actually, you know, when I knew him, he worked as he worked for Target. Okay, and he quit that job because

somebody recognized him. But it's durable. The thing about Olive Garden that was a big slap in the face, and why I lose a lot of respect for fans that say these kinds of things. He wasn't working at the Olive Garden. He was in like an executive chef program. He was studying to get like what the hell? But he stops working at Olive Garden now because of this.

It was ridiculous and I just that's to me. There's a clip of Rick Flair talking about Shane and Shane, you know, being the same thing, Shane being in in a management program, right, and Rick Flair buries him. And that's well with Rick Flair, okay, because that's why between the two, right, But that's all he knows. Rick Flair doesn't he doesn't know what it's like to have to

go out and really fight for whatever. Guess what, Rick Flair is blessed to Rick Flair and to have all of these opportunities and to get paid an absorbent amount of money to make these you know, these shots that he's able to make. And you know, if we could all be like Rick Flair, whoa we'd be it'd be great. But you know we Shane and I have had this discussion.

Rick Flair is great at what he does. There are so many people in this industry who are getting paid thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to make these appearances. The people that come from ECW, there's one or two that I can think of that are making really top money on the andes, and then the rest are just doing what they need to do to get by. And like Shane said it best, he goes, like, you know, we were at the top of our game in ECW, Like what Flair was to WWF, Shane was to ECW.

So Shane should be getting these top paydays, you know what I mean. It's like, I don't know, And that's why that's my whole thing, Like, if you don't like what you're being offered, just don't take it. But then again, you you know, these guys need to work, so if another offer doesn't come in, you stay home that week and you don't make any money. It's such a double and sword and I'm so blessed that I don't have

to deal with that bullshit. You know, I pick and choose and I'm able to do so, but a lot of the guys aren't, and it sucks. And I know a lot of these promoters are basically fans who get a couple you know, bucks in their pocket and think they could run this huge show and it turns out to be a flop. And then some of the boys get stiffed on pay and you know they don't have a deposits. It's it's a bullshit market anymore. I don't like the way things are being ran I got an

offer the other day. The guy accepted my price, no problem, blah blah blah. As soon as we mentioned a deposit. Because I don't know who this man is, I said, you have to get me a deposit. Ghosted us And I'm just like, why did you even approach me? And and you know your price is great, Yeah, we can do that. And then you know they want to pay you off the gate that they you're not going to do that. Well, I'll tell you why. Guys are starting to wave deposits. Well guess what I'm not and I

not to no unless I know you. If I don't know you, I need a deposit because I'm not going to show up at your shitty show where you draw twenty seven people and have you cry me your river. How you can't pay me? You know, it's never happened to me before. But there's always a first, and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna let it happen. Oh I've heard, I've heard some stories. Oh yeah, me too. Keep your

shitty payday. I'll stay home, I'll do Twitch, I'll do Twitch, have fun out of the comfort of my own home, and I'll make a couple bucks on Twitch. I'd rather do something like that than deal with the headache of having to deal with these people, because no one knows what they're doing these days. No, no, no, not at all. I've heard some of the old timers, the guys that you know are out there a lot are stopping with deposits and they're just because they know you know, they

know you. Yeah no, they're just waving, waving it now and they're just going right to the show and Nope, that's it. And I was shocked to hear that because I'm so used to it, you know, from running all the conventions and stuff. You know, I didn't book you for our convention, but you were booked by JAB. But for everybody else that you know, everybody got a deposit, everybody across the board. Now that the other way, there's

only a hand, not even a handful. I can count on two fingers who I will work for without a deposit. There's two people. You're one of them, Yes, Chad's the other one. Everybody else deposit or my ass stays home, and I'm okay with that. I don't care. I don't care anymore. I love meeting you guys, but under this, you know these circumstances, it's not worth it. My anxiety is like here anyway, when I'm on the road about I've heard stories from guys that have had to go.

Either they locked the promoter in the room until he gets them their money, or they go all right, let me look around like, I'm gonna take that laptop there, I'm gonna go. I stand, I'm gonna take a lot of shit that you got out there. All those WWE toys that you're selling, those are all coming home with me. But it's so works and doesn't get paid. What kind of job works where you don't get paid like that?

It blows my mind. This industry is so crooked and backwards that we have to struggle to get paychecks when we're providing you a service. Oh just give me all right, attentional promoters, if you don't have money, stay to hell home, don't call us, don't and and don't yes us to death and then ghost us, like just leave us alone. I got to get that name from you later. It's just so I know, to be a word. Yeah, well I should ask him right now, but I will not

do it. I know you're you're a classy lady, so you will. But I was just like, are you kidding me? Like, ugh, So I will be more than happy to just work with people that I trust and then stay home and do everything else from here and do my kids, because that's what I love. And you know what I love too, the fact that you didn't think we'd fill this hour literally and then this is what I love. See, it's just natural conversation. We were talking about Buff Bagwell, Buff,

clean yourself up and get back to being the stuff. Yeah, Buff, Yeah you're the stuff. You're but now you're just rough, So let's go. You signed all the pictures that day. Buff is still the stuff. I hope, I we you know, we wish him the best. I hope he gets his life back together. But I hate to exactly, I hate to see these stories about the boys. It's just very, very troublesome to me. I don't like it, so get

well soon. Buff. That's right, Buff. Let's move on to the rest of the week here kind of in the vein of wrestling. It can be wrestling, it can be television, could be music, it could be whatever. There's been a lot of talk about things starting over again, what's old is new? We're gonna talking about reboots and covers. Oh, now, you were part of a reboot that necessarily maybe not so exactly, So think in that kind of vein of reboots and covers. Covers usually in terms of music fifty

to fifty. They could be good, they could be real shit. Okay, so we're gonna talk about reboots and covers. We're gonna do kind of to watch along because I have a YouTube clip that I want you to watch. Accuser of the Brethren. What the hell does that mean? What is that? It is this lady going ape shit in a Walmart, yelling at some guy, cursing at him in a whole like, you know, professing the Lord to this gentleman, but cursing up a storm. And I laughed my ass off when

I watched it. So I just want to see what your reaction is gonna be, you know, and what you would do in this situation if you saw this. So it's kind of like a bonus, a little watch along thing the world Star it could have been, but it's more of like just watching some crazy lady lose her shit for that. So I like these videos, okay, and then how about this for your match? How about this? Ready? I dug in for this one. Shane Douglas with Francine

Louis Spacoli from Hard TV love them. Great match, great match, great match. Yeah, Louis one behind a lot of chance. Wow, we're going towards the match, so we're gonna need your deciphering of the ECW Arena crowd. This is from This was recorded September fourteenth, ninety six. Broadcast September seventeenth, ninety six. Okay, sounds good. So that's what we're doing on Patreon. If you want to follow me, it's at Chad E and B. If you want to go to my website, it's Ibexclusives

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