This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jag and Zalizn Fox Sports fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kt z R two SAG and iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to you Eye on the Ball hero, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rave, He's jagan'saus dot our guy Sammy here today. These revolving kids. Bring your kids to work today. They keep us young, Steve. They
do, but really, really really hard thing to do. How we get them old real quick? I know, I try, Yeah, okay, you try. That's me. Okay. What's on the radio? It was dream on, strangle hold on. What's going on? Guys? Just here? Steve. I was coming in and it's ninety one degrees or are we? Where are we today? On Arizona Mike it says ninety two. I was like, now, cool down. Yeah. I walked. I walked. I hadn't been out of the house all morning. I walked out of
the house with a long sleeve in my hand. You know, they think I might need I might need it. I opened the door and I'm like, no, I don't need that. I tossed it back in the house the place. This place is cold usually, and I want to do short spots. Wow, not anyone in mid November. That sucks. Sucks, but it's still cool. I mean, you know what. I need it to stay a little, you know, for Saturday. I don't want to easy. I want to be cold. I don't want to be rainy.
I've taken the the the predictors of the weather. Hero just sleepy. They cold. We'll be wrong on your meteor predict other we need doctors don't don't predict what they predicted drips and exactly, so you might have a drip on Saturday. But they they've been wrong so far. Because I thought they thought they thought that it was gonna the chance of rain is dropped, so maybe nothing if it rains, that doesn't well, yeah, I'm melting. I'm
melting anymore. What's the line now? One still? Still? How about Oregon State being favored over Washington State at home? Right at home? Oregon State is at home. You don't want to win that game. I don't want Washington to state where they are, But that would help our would help our chances. No, it actually doesn't because because if there's like a multiple place tie with Oregon State, they would have to win over Washington Go Huskies, and and we're rooting for u c l A. And we're rooting for
who theoretically they play Oregon. No I still no, still no, Okay, well, yeah, I guess, but rooting for that, it's like, you know exactly exactly that's not gonna happen. I mean, yes, that that would happenzon, but it's so we just need to win right when, when the game, and then regroup after that and see where you are after that. But you know, going in, Arizona's ready for U s l A to beat USC. So I saw that. I saw that, Why does that need to happen? Okay, here this scenario I've vetted with
Wilner, John Wilner, who knows everything. This This scenario gets Arizona in the packed WORLF Championship, Washington wins out, Arizona wins out, Oregon loses to Oregon State assuming they beat us C A, then U c l A needed to beat USC because if us C is in a in a similar and in a tie, Arizona's lost to them. But they have three pac twelve losses, correct, who us C, U s C. They've lost, They've lost to Utah, they lost to Oregon and Oregon Washington. So that's
three. So we went out we only have two. Okay, you're correct, you're correct, So doesn't oh but no, but you need that. You need that because you need USC to drop in the standings if there's a right, if there's if there's a three way tie, because Oregon's beat in USC, right, but they will be because they have three packed twelve losses, I know. But you need them. You need to potentially you need
them below Oregon State too. You want them completely away from it. So it's not like essentral USC, but it would be not but that that that scenario gets Arizon in the back. We have been a chance of one hundred percent drain this weekend. Okay, Steve, remember to twenty fourteen on that day and I can't the championship. Yeah, on the game, there were three things that needed to happen. I can't remember what the third one, but one of them was Arizona had to be in Arizona State and UCLA had
to lose to Stanford. And then there was one other game that was affecting that they all happened in Arizona got into the pack World Championship because of that. So you know, so you're saying a chance that Look, I'm not saying it's fifty percent chance or whatever. What I'm all I'm saying is that it's not inconceivable that those things can all happen. Yeah, Okay, that's all. Did you see a big story? Another big story gets a big story earlier today twenty hours ago. Blah blah blah, the u c L
A. Guess whose name is on that list? To your question of the fire, Chip Colty, of course Jeed Fish will beyond that jet fishing, so so of course he'll be on that list. Why wouldn't he be Why would he not be? Right? So, I mean it's that's see, that's one where you feel like you feel like Jed. You know, Okay, he's winning this year. Has he done enough to prove that he can run the great that's the long term program? We don't know yet. Yes, he's rebuilt this program, no doubt about it. But you know,
okay, let's have this great season. What happens next year and then after that we don't know that yet. But and so that's why he's not gonna be a candidate for any of those other jobs u c l A. Because he was there was he inn I'm head coach for a few games, a couple of games. I could see them coming after him because they sort of know him. I could see them doing that right now and say, Okay, we think he's got you know, we like him, we think he's
got this stuff. I could see. I could see them coming after him. I don't I don't know Jed would want to or consider it. I mean, it would have to be a thing where he says okay, and he does. He does like like Deon Sanders, he brings his own luggage, you know. And then team AC and and and know if a feed and all those guys who haven't transferred anywhere, they have a free transfer, they can go back with him, go play in l A. That certainly, to me seems like a possibility. I was told, I was told
that u c l A doesn't have the money to fire. You've said that to fire Chip Kelly. But you know, you know, if if if, if they if they want to, and if boosters are as fed up as they might be, they'll come up with that's where the money is going to come from. That's what. Yeah, it's like people here who paid off someone to get him out here. Yeah, it wasn't the school, it was a booster. Right. How long has Kelly been there? This is his third like no, like six year. Yeah, I'm gonna say
like his sixth year. Okay, So I was gonna ask the question like it feels now in this day and age in college football, if you don't win within the first two to three years, everyone once you've gone right the patient patient is at a program, I guess like U C l A and Texas A and M, like you do have to kind of win now, but A and M was kind of inevitable. But UCLA it felt like he'd had some good years to where like you gotta, I think see where it
goes. Yeah, well, you know, I think his reputation preceded him, okay, and then they thought, Okay, he's gonna bring the same magic he had at Oregon. So and that never happened. Cont on my fingers. This is his sixth year, sixth year, So he's like thirty two, thirty three and thirty three or something like that, and he'll always be second field to USC obviously anybody there would be, but he hasn't created the same magic he had an organ That guru that they thought they were getting
is not his guru. Gung. Yeah, I showed a little with d t R when he was there, but well then that's that's gone too. Yeah, you know that's gone to whatever happened to him. DTR is the back. So Deshaun Watson's out for the year if you saw that, So now they're so is that where he's at? I saw reports saying that they're going to start DTR over p J Walker for the foreseeable future, which doesn't
make much sense because they've won games with p J Walker. But so he's technically I guess the starter of the playoff Browns right now, which is really good in the playoffs as of now. Wow. Yeah, and yeah, that was Why couldn't Shaun Watson got hurt enough to lose that game on Saturday? That's what pisses me off, big, big giant Mills person. I really upset him. I was upset at those I had the Ravens and and and the banks last week and they both lost. Yeah, it's well,
Jay, did you see ESPN's new betting entity. I have a looked at it yet. It's pretty cool. Yeah, I don't really. I'm not on a lot of them, honestly, none until today. But I did some lot, logged in, did the whole thing. It's pretty cool. You get two hundred bonus bets after your first bets, so free two hundred dollars. It's pretty cool and it seems pretty simple. It's not like your
fan duel where you can do literally anything. It's it's honestly, I think for the beginning better and so ESPN can talk about it on their shows. It's pretty simple if you if you want a free two hundred to throw in the I'm still living off the free money I got from from DraftKings when we started. Yeah, and all the promos and stuff. That's how they get you. And then sure, all of a sudden, you're you're gone, and I will take a look at that. Yeah, pretty cool, Pretty
cool. No, I'll definitely take a look at that because DraftKings has kind of been mean to us late. Yeah, well they've been on existent exactly pretty much. That's what I meant being mean existing, So I'll man, So did you see uh? I know. I mentioned it to you on text, Damon stodam Iron. Yeah, I didn't see what the score was. They lost U mass Dash Lowell. That's almost that's that's worse than USC losing you you see Irvan, You see Irving's always beating somebody like that.
But USC got beat last night to by you see Irvin in the game where the boogie Alice and the other guy, uh, I can't remember his name. Now, I'm surprised they put old boogie Alice. But they both missed the game yesterday and they sat on the bench and and obviously Broni's still out. So and they got beat. They got beat by you see Irvan at us Us. I was watching the like last couple of minutes of the game. I was finishing watching the NBA, and that game was on, and
they were they were only down three with like two minutes left. Got it, got out of it, got right there. Yeah, and then they couldn't they couldn't finish. Yeah, well, you mentioned Boogiel. He's kind of their closer, him not being there. He's been there one hundred years. Yeah, yeah, he's like really so somewhere Josh Passner says, I could have done that and still we get paid. He could have, he could have a couple of times. Unfortunately before we got Josh. Hey.
For those of who don't know, uh, Damon stottlemried his first year as the head coach at Georgia Tech, taking over for another Arizona guy, Josh Pastner, and again uh uh Georgia Tech got beat last night by u mass Looell. Yeah, who's on the show today today? Oh yeah, we have a show. According to the board there nobody I was like, I was. Troy Hutchison is joining us. We'll talk some Arizona stuff with him. Always Johnny on the spot. He was one of those guys is always
like all over it all the time. He was fanboy. I was with him on the trip and he was fanboy. Yeah. Yeah, Well, which is he has? Is a twenty some year old and yeah, So Troy is joining us at three fifteen and then we're gonna talk some high school stuff. There's some uh I think it's four football four Lowcal teams left in the could have been more, but we'll check point Cdo Sabino and Mike A Mountain. Okay, look at that, I think are all that? Okay?
Well, talk to morale is about the chance of one of those south points in the with the quarterfinals are semis. I think there's there's so much semi finals of six A semi finals. I'll look it up. Yes, my my alma Manter's playing good football right now. Who's Brophy Trophy? A bunch of rich kids playing out there. We haven't been good at football, you know. You know what. Here's what I know about Brophy. Okay, all right, let's do it. Brophy has a sports information director.
Oh, I know a guy named Steve Schaft that we okay, that we all know. You know Steve, I didn't think we had. He was the UFA guy. He worked at you. He went from being a sports information director at any you to Brophy. No, he was in Sacramental. He went to Sacramento, Sacramento, and then he came back. He wanted to come back home. Yeah, yes he did. It's great school, high school, high school with a sports information director. Yeah, I'll do'll
play for that job. And then, to be fair, since it is in all boys school, there are a lot of like sports where like we have an e we have a whole e uh sports and so there's that when there and there's a lot of there is a lot of extra sports that maybe some other schools don't have, so I can I can see it, but I get what you mean. The only thing I know is Mark Hillary Allery Allery, but graduate from JERMAINO did Anthony Jamino? He did not Brophy Prep.
Anthony from. Yeah. I never would have thought that Channing Fry's brothers. Anthony would have been like a backstreet you know. No, not he's soft. He That puts a whole new light on on what I know of Anthony. Wow, silver spoon kind of guy. Yes, okay, all right, I'll give Trophy just beats out point last week in football, fourteen twelve, last week playoffs, still in the playoffs, I know. I think it's right here. Football trophies nine and two's that point was still in
it. No, I think they are so playoffs. So yeah, Trophy won fourteen twelve. That must have been in the end of the regular Yeah, it must have been the last U Okay, we'll talk more later about that. Okay, let's take a break. All right, let's take our break. Troy Hutchinson will join us. We'll talk a little bit both football and basketball with what's going on there, Troy, was that duke with hanging out with Steve Hope you treated him well and yes, welcome back and talking
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is I on the park on Fox Sports. Hey, welcome back to about here plus Sports Fortune fifty I received, He's Jay got Sammy with us. Now we have Troy Hutchinson from gooasycats dot com. Ho wait, Troy, good? How about you guys? I thank you. You spent all Monday going through your photos from your trip. Yeah, and I do appreciate you being the camera guy. I really appreciate that. Take a photo he was like in Disneyland. Yeah, yeah, I can imagine How was that for
you, Troy? I mean, you know, you're still a young guy. You know, you kind of like that stuff if you're not old and crotchety like Steve who has no appreciation for the finer things like that? What was that like for you to go to do? It was incredible? I mean that's a bucket list trip growing up a college basketball fan and a hoops fan as well. I mean, that's one of those places that you got to go to. It's up there with Madison Square Garden, It's up there
with Ruff Arena. Might be number one, uh, in terms of Cameron Indoors Stadium and just seeing the history there, getting to sit by the Cameron crazies. Although it was kind of hectic trying to work, Uh, it was an amazing experience. And you know, that's probably the best environment I've ever been to at a college basketball game, Mikhail Vague as any any of
that, that probably tops it. And the fans there were tremendous. Every Time they hit you in the head when they're you know, going nuts, they go, oh, I'm sorry, and it's like, oh no, it's okay, You're you're enjoying the game. It's fine. But just an incredible environment, and you really do feel like, you know, when you have two top ten teams in there, that you're the center of the college basketball world at the time. Yeah, no, that's pretty good. Yeah
he got it accurate. I mean he's like, yeah, yeah, you had me thinking of what I would feel like if I went to the Masters or something like that, right, Yeah, probably I get it. Yeah. Yeah, with people on Tubby Wos hitting the side of those people are all old over there at the Masters, They're like hitting you inside of the head with a Memento sandwich. So what did you think about that game? And then moving on to the Monday game? Were they a little slow on
Monday for you? Yeah, you know, I think a little bit of a hangover effect, a little slow, kind of of a you know, it's Southern, we should cruise past this team. I don't know if they overlooked it, but it seemed like it. And then this near the end of the first half, in the beginning of the second half, hereson, I picked it up. But let's talk about real quick. On the Duke
game, they just played with a whole different intensity, complete game. I think that's one of the most complete games outside of the turnovers obviously that Tommy Lloyd team has had, especially on the road in that type of environment, and then they carried it over into that second half against Southern. Right now, this team, to me, there's a different mentality than we've seen, not only with coach Tommy Lloyd's teams, but with Sean Miller's teams as well.
There's not a we want to win, there's an expectation of we are going to win this game. They have guys on the roster that coach Lloyd talked about that they're just dudes or dogs with Kylon Boswell, Caleb Love and
Kashaw Johnson. There's just a different mentality out there. I think it's maybe his most complete team in his short stint at Arizona, and this team has the potential to be maybe the best defensive team Arizona's had since the Nick Johnson, Brandon Ashley and Aaron Gordon team, which was number one defensively in the country. But this is a very special squad that can do a lot of things, and you could do different mixes and matches on the roster, and
they're very talented and very deep going in. Did you think how much of a chance did you think they had of winning that game. I thought they were going to win the game, really, I really did. I thought Arizona was going to win that game just because of the leadership of Caleb Love playing in that environment. He was I think what two and one going into games at Cameron had played really well there, you had a guy like Kashaw Johnson that is very up, very physical. But I did think it would
come down to the wire and it did. But you saw at the end of the day, the hype of Arizona played a huge factor. They dominated the glass, they were getting all the fifty to fifty balls, and the key to me was the play of Crevas, which gave Arizona twelve minutes off
the bench six point six rebounds, I think two or three blocks. Just having that big that Arizona didn't have last season is going to be huge because now you can put in somebody there to get ballo arrests and if you can even get you know, eight to ten minutes, that's going to be critical down the stretch of the game. So it's funny you could go, you get five guys in a room and you ask him who was the key guy in that game. You can get five different answers. He just said crevas.
I loved Johnson, right, I love Johnson, and then Caleb love play and obviously Boswell. So you could go to a number of different people that all contributed to the big win. Yeah. I think the overarching player the game is definitely Kylon Boswell. Smooth twelve points, eight rebounds, five tous this one turnover. He really dictated the tempo of that game. And
you know, Duke has a lot of really solid guard play. And then you saw Caleb Fossor last night against Michigan State just go off from the three point line and he wasn't able to do that against Arizona. But Caleb, excuse me, Kylon Boswell kind of just dictates how this team goes for Arizona. You know what to it's only eighteen years old, as they say, I've got underwear older than Yeah, okay, let's go. Let's go to football. Now what do you see there? I know you were. Did
you get any chance to watch them coming back? Probably not. No. I saw that they were down trailing at half and allowed to feel well right before the half expired, I believe. But you know, when you look at I saw the replay of the game. When you look how it played out, just a very I don't want to say ugly game, but just
wasn't Arizona's a game. I would say it's probably their C plus B minus game, and they played a Colorado team that was hungry and their last home game and trying to make a Bowl game, and they took them down to the wire. But I think the difference with this Arizona team with coach Fish and you've seen years pass Arizona usually loses that game. They find a way to lose that game, and in this scenario, they found a way to
win despite not having their best game. The defense stuff stepped up in the second half, only allowed seven points, and they just pieced it together offensively to get it done. I think it's a real, you know, feather in the cap to the coaching staff of keeping the team focused in that game and not letting it get too big. But I think they're in a good
spot defensevely. You know, they took their lums in that game. But overall, I think you have to walk away feeling good because a win up in Colorado isn't always easy, and you know, with the momentum that that program had overall in the season, you feel really good coming away with a win. There is there one guy, one guy that you can point to and say, if they didn't have him, they wouldn't be seven and three. It's a big question. I think it's true. It's really true.
Guys. I don't think there'd be seven and three without no Fafida taking over at quarterback. And I don't think there would be seven and three without Jacob Manu being the leader of the defense that he is. And I know that started last year, but you're seeing it develop more so this year. He's kind of been that, you know, that commander out there for the defense and no Fafida. I mean, it's just steady. He didn't have a great game, but I believe he had two touchdown passes with over two hundred
yards passing. Just that consistency and not you know, turning the football over has paid dividends for this team and it's allowed them to go to, you know, a little bit more of a balanced offense where Jonah Coleman is getting more involved. DJ Williams is getting more involved. So I think those two guys are the key, and obviously the offensive line as well. Wait a second, so so mine would be different. What about you? If I were to pick one. If I were to pick one, I'm gonna say
No Fafita. See, I'm taking Jolah Coleman. They give him the ball, they give him the ball, he does stuff. But yeah, but and you can argue either one of those guys, right, because they say Jonah Coleman is better because of what no Fafita is doing, and No Fafita is better because of what Jonah Coleman is doing. Right, right, what leads to the other. Right, But you know, we we have a caller. We've been arguing about this, uh with Troy, Who's who's saying
that Arizona can't win if they can't throw the ball down the field. Well, they're winning without throwing the ball down the field. So you know, I don't I know that that's necessary. I think in fact, what No if I Feat is doing he's managing the game in a way where there's no ups and downs generally he's doing that. But you know the guys that really managing the game is Jed Yeah, because he's calling the shots all right,
He's giving him plays that he can make exactly right, exactly. He doesn't have somebody out there, you know, swinging for the fences every time see. I think that's the biggest thing for his development as a head coach is year one, obviously there was a lot of trick plays. The talent level wasn't there quite yet. Year two, the talent level improved offensively, but you still saw the need to want to throw the football, the need to want to run a trick play. You're not seeing that anymore. I think
it was the Oregon State game. They were driving, just running the ball down the field with Coleman and Wiley, and everybody was kind of waiting for that moment, Okay, when's the trick play going to happen? Where it kind of messes up the drive. It never came. He's stuck to what he wants to do. He's stuck to what his team is doing well, he doesn't go away from him, and they're able to finish off that drive where the year's pass. I feel like he would have pulled a trick play
out and then maybe Arizona gets in trouble. I think he's developed as a head coach. I think that's a huge reason and Arizona is definitely a team that doesn't need to air the ball out. They love to, but the heart and soul of this football team is in the trenches in it. And that offensive line. No, that's that's a really good point too, because you know, I mean it when we when has there zone been able to say that, you know, the lines are a strength about never? Yeah?
Right, And I'm more talking. I mean maybe you go back to you know, Larry smith Day's early Dick Toomy days where one line or the other was really good. But I guess you could say the ninety eight team had an incredible offensive line with I can't think of his name, use of Scott and and that you know those guys, and that defensive line was pretty good, but that defensive that defense wasn't great, it was really good. So yeah, I mean, you know, this team has it on both
sides. And you know, I know I've been here sixty three years, sixty four years, sorry, and uh never seen this in terms of people talking about how both both lines are have been such a key to what this team is doing. M Yeah, No, they're definitely winning the battle upfront. And you look at that offensive line, I think potentially you have three first round draft picks. One is a long way away in Raymond Palito,
but he has the talent. Yeah, Jordan Morgan, who I think will be a first round draft pick, and Jonas Salvinia who has the potential to be. I don't remember a line where Arizona's had that on it the last time I could remember that with the Mike stoops there. I think they had a left tackle that was the first round draft pick. But other than that, you don't see high level draft picks on the offense flying come out of Arizona? Did I hear? Did I hear Jed say at his press conference
said Jordan Morgan is the only guy who'll be gone after this year? Yeah, on the offensive line, I believe, yeah, he would be the only Uh I feel I feel like the center might be gone. But I think either Morgan in the center or just mortgane just either one or two, I believe. Yeah. No, With that said, I mean that's where the stability shows right now and later. Right But okay, okay, what do you think this week? Utah's coming in? You know, as Jed
said last year, you know we would love to be Utah. You know, what do you think. How do you think he's approaching this game in that sense, in terms of looking at where they are as it relates to Utah. Uh, you know, I think it's a great measuring stick. I think his coaching staff is going to prepare like it's any other game, at least that's what they're going to say. But this is a kind of
prove it game for Arizona and this coaching staff. This is the last hurdle really to get to that nine and three mark, which is kind of wild to think about at the beginning of the season. I would start, but you have the game at home, with the way Utah is right now, with the quarterback situation and banged up on the offense, you have them at the perfect time. But it's still Kyle Winningham. He's going to have his
team prepared. They're going to play some great defense. I think this is going to be a grinded out game, but I do see arison A winning this game. We'll say twenty four fourteen. I think at ten point victory four Arizona. There's a lot that Utah does that plays into the hands of Arizona's defense. I think a last second touchdown in the fourth quarter kind of puts the game away. But I do think Arizona is able to get this victory and then march on to ASU. Now the question come is how good
have you been doing that predicting? You know, not so bad, But I mean, we're all wrong on the Washington State game. I thought they were going to lose that game, and they blew them out. So and I said seven to five at the beginning of the year. So if they lose the rest of the way, I did hit that marker. You might be wrong on that one. Thank you, Troy. Thanks about try as always have a good one. Okay, twenty four to fourteen? Uh, who said, well, what's his name? Jim said thirty one thirteen year
time Utah. Right, like they haven't lost sight that much all year long. Jim's listening to me, Tomah become cranky Jimmy. He is cranky Jim crack or a somebody said crabby Jim, crabby Jimmy. I saw that. All right, let's take our break. We're gonna come back. We'll take your calls five two, zero, four, one, six, seventy four forty no matter how fuck babes come up. Name I'll be there in are. You don't have to. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you
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today at a teamsecurity dot net. Streaming live on the iHeartRadio app. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty. Hey, welcome back toining the ball here on Fox Sports foorteen fifty. I'm Steve, You're Jay sadly with us at thirteen minutes. If you guys want to call, please do. It'll be fun. We call good calls. Yesterday we've had a ton of calls yesterday, everybody and the brother
called. We had a couple of new callers, a bunch of old callers, and you know, a lot of different opinions on the stuff we were talking about. I still disagree with Krabby Jim Crabby Gym might be calling in. He will unless he's like taking a nap or something. No, not doing the show. Doesn't do all these old guys want to listen to us,
don't including Nico. Thanks for the dating advice, Nico. Uh yeah, you know, Uh this it's funny because you know, I brought up the idea that you know, there were some people who were upset last year when Judge Jed said we're measuring ourselves against Utah, you know, because we see Arizona has seen itself as as as better than that. Yeah, it's better than Utah because Utah was, you know, the last one, you know, they last one that came into into the league. Arizona had been
in the PAC twelve or PAC ten for a number of years. And stuff in Utah was like the little Brother, Well the little Brother got pretty damn good. Yeah, they and they've done really well consistently, right, not just a one year under, just what's gonna happen next year beyond? Well, when you think about it, Steve, you know, you know next year's pack Big twelve conference, right, who's the front run? They are?
Exactly they are. They're consistently good, right, and and this is just my reputation, not that we know anything, right, but but you think that Utah is going to be at least in the top two. Yeah, with what the what they've done, you know, Utah is the team to be in the Big twelve next year based on what's going on right now. Sure, right, it's not TCU. You know TCU at the National Championship Game, they're in the toilet. They might not even get to a
bowl game this year. You know, you got Oklahoma State, who everybody thought, okay, they're that because they beat Oklahoma and then you see what Central Florida did to them last week, you know, thirty eight to three or something like that. It was horrible. So you know, there's nobody out there there that you say is better than Utah. There may be some teams that can compete with Utah, and Arizona might be one of those now. But nobody in the Big twelve right now is better than Utah. No,
No, Oklahoma States should be up there as well. But we'll see, we'll see. But it's I think the move for all parties is a good one because they'll have a better chance of becoming stronger in the conference. Right. You know who's gonna not gonna do so well? I think U C l A. And they're moving the big thing. They're gonna struggle. They're gonna struggle because they struggle in this Yeah, and they can't recruit,
so how they're gonna do well over there? That doesn't make sense. No, I mean they can't be well US U S S they beat Okay, but you know US is a better program, Oregon is a better program, Washington's a better program. Yeah, you know how. And then now they're gonna go up there and there and they're gonna run into Michigan, Ohio State,
Penn State. We're talking football specifically, right, football specifically, because the basketball program will do five thing, but the football program, Yeah, they're gon be the fourth best team leaving the guards the bench twelve and they come in with no question, no better than the seventh best team in the league, and probably further down than that this year, especially especially after they fired their coach, which could very well happened, Which could very well happen.
Yeah, they're starting to hear a lot of buzz about that. Yeah, you know, you know, maybe he beats the USC and everybody's happy. Who knows. Yeah, I don't know what the one game when that one game, you know u C l A b O C go to the l A Bowl. So so tell me. We talked about this briefly yesterday. Uh, the bowl games that are possibility good possibly, you know, just good possibilities. Prayer zone. Okay, here here's the way I understand
it. You know, Washington and Oregon are going to be in New Year six balls, whether it's a playoff or two of the balls like Festi Bowl, Cotton Bowl, whatever. So those two are in the in that tier where they're gonna be. So then after that comes the Alma Ble in this order, they pick Alimobole Holiday Bowl, Vegas Bowl. All Right, they don't have to take the third place like Elimobole picks first, they don't have to take the third place here. They can take whoever they want. But
they wanted to dip down and take you know, whoever. They can't, but they pick in that order. And then and then the Holiday Bowl and then the Vegas Bowl. What I think happens, I don't know, and you know is that those three those three bowl committees or whatever get together and they try and come up with the best matchup for each of them, and then they make their picks. Like Delbo says, we'd love to have X
because they haven't been here or whatever. Vegas Ball might say, Look, we would really like to have Arizona, you know, because they've got a basketball game here in the day, and you know, and then their fans would come and people people would come to that game, sure, you know. And then and the Holiday Bowl would say, well, we would love to have X. You know, those three games are going to be looking at Arizona, Oregon State, USC and in Utah. So let's say let's
go with each one of those. Vegas is going last the Alamo Bow. I don't think, you know what I know, and I'm not speaking out a turn. I don't think there'son fans don't travel well for and they're not gonna go to San Antoni, right because they don't travel well. They don't travel well. They'll go to the Holiday they will because it's close by right there, and they'll go to them, right, And they'll go to the Vegas Ball, no question. They'll go to the Sunball, right because it's
a nearby right. Yeah. So the four those four teams, I think those four teams presuming you know, even if Arizona splits its last two games and they're they're they're you know, eight and four, they're in the picture for one of those four games. So those four teams are gonna go to those four games. The question of who goes where part of it depends on when was the last time one of those teams has been at, say the Alamobile You know, I don't know who played in the Alamo Bowl last year?
Was it Oregon? I don't remember, but Arizona was there, what five, six, seven years whatever? It was wonder Stoops probably, Yeah, last time they were there and it was not it was not good. So you know, those those four games are going to take those four teams. The question is who takes the best the best one not the best Bowl, but the best scenario would be Vegas for Arizona fans for that day. You know, it's a couple day for Christmas. You go up there,
you get tickets to the basketball game. Have you been? Have you been to the veggast Stuf. I've been to most of the Vegas stuff, the butchery, you've stayed up. I'm sure you've party told I've been to Vegas for like fun with my friends. No, no, no, for these stuff. For this. Oh I've been. Yeah. I went to the Backron Tournament both years and then last year when we played Indiana, I was there. Okay, so you know what it looks like. Yeah, it's
awesome, it's crazy, it's it's fantastic. Yeah. I know I've been saying that I couldn't go to the Vegas Bowl, but I'm yeah, you're going to oregonn right now the way you say it, well, okay, I think I can. Oregon State won't be in the Vegas Bowl. Presumably they were in it lashed Okay, and then so the l A Bowl quote unquote, now it's the ground that's down the list. Yeah, so you c L A twelve team goes Yeah, U c L A is going to that or you know somebody else. Let me see what else you got.
I'm trying to what Wilner said and what he told us that the Holly Ball is not taking U c l A so because whatever so, but but U s LA is not gonna be even high enough up there. They're not even seem to watch because they too don't travel right. And then but at the end of the regular season, they may not have a coach. You're not you know, you're not gonna You're not gonna be anxious to take a program. Who's uh whose coach just got fired? Holiday Bowl was organ last year,
so they'll be in a new year six. Like you said, alim O Bowl was Washington, so they'll be in New year six. Say that again. Alim Obole was Washington last year. Yeah, last year. So both those teams and then we had the last one the Vegess you got Oregon State there, Yeah, I think that's all of it. Yeah. Holiday Bowl was Oregon, okay, and so Vegas. Yeah, Oregon Washington moving up Oregon State, might I mean presumably say we do split, Oregon State
will get a better Bowl than us. Yeah, so there'll be a there'll be an Alimobile or the Holiday Bowl, so then it will be probably between US and us C. Yeah, if USC beats if U s C beats U C L A, I could see the Holiday Bowl. Want to take us then go to Vegas and that's the best scene scenario. Yeah, what conferences Vegas Bowl? Big no big ten? Uh uh oh it was so last year organ State be Yeah that the Holiday Bowl is an A C C. Yeah, no, no, no. Last year is Florida in the
Holly Bowl. In the Vegas Bowl it was Oregon State Florida, so we'd get sex. Yeah. Yeah, the Vegas Ball is an SEC team, the Holiday Bowl is an A C C team, and the Ala Bowl is a big twelve team. I'd love I'd love to see you vegainst an SEC team. Yeah, probably like Tennessee and yeah, maybe a Tennessee or something Missouri if they lose their last couple of games. That'd be fun in Vegas. Sign me up. And who does U plays basketball in Florida at at
Team Mobile? Yeah, which is all right there And the thing here's the problem, at least for media. And then you guys do probably you go to the game. It's a twelve o'clock game. I think the football game is a four I think that it's a four o'clock game. So you go from there there right away. In fact, we'll be at the press conference and then have to spin our helicopters and get to the football game because it's going to be a hell to get is the football game at Allegiant? Uh?
Is it? Yeah? Because it wasn't before. No, used to be. No, it's a legion now, Okay, So that's why that's why it's moved up in the In the bull case, it'll be just a long, crazy day, Okay. Starting to perduce some of these bull projections and we're so far ahead of ourselves. The Fox Sports has Arizona in the
el versus Oklahoma. I just don't. I just and that would that would be a fun game, a game, but but it's just everyone who doesn't travel, well, they just don't like we said we They've got USC and the Holiday Bowl, and they've got Utah in the Vegas Utah. Yeah, they're Utah in the Vegas Bowl and then Oregon State in the Sunball. So that's that one Bleacher Report has. Let's see what they've got. They don't have like a list like everybody here. No, they don't have the list
like it make it. They okay, you're a bleacher report because you made it too hard to hard to figure out. So like Action Network had US in the Vegas Bolgan Maryland something like that, here's USA Today has uh let's see Vegas Bowl has Nebraska, U s C the uh Let's see the Sun Bowl, Oregon State, Virginia Tech, the Alma Bowl Oklahoma Utah. So the Holiday clumbs, the u C l A, shut up, get out here, you're disqualified. USA Today Holiday Bowl against Clemson would be fun.
And then so they must have Arizona like in the l abel. Yeah, they got they got Arizona in the label. How old is this? This is? This is like, well, it's like yesterday. Get out of here. USA Today area does. The hard part is though, if we do lose to Utah and us C does went out, then we're probably fifth.
It'll go Oregon, Washington, Utah, Oregon State, us C, right, and then yeah then we're sixth on bull list, So then we probably but again they can take any no sure sure, but if you're if you're a marketer, if you're a bowl and this has nothing to do with Arizona football. But you probably want Caleb Williams playing in your bowl, but you might play. He's not gonna play. So then that's what he say.
You know, if you're in a bowl, if you're in a room and saying, okay, we want us Sam, dude, Caleb Williams isn't playing, you have to assumes I agree, I agree. You know, you really do have to assume that. So you know, I don't know. And uh, the athletic has ever zone in the Sun Bowl against Miami. That'd be pretty fun. That'd be fun. All Right, we're at the top of the hour. Let's take our break. Uh uh, what's your name? Sammy's coming back with the breaking news. I pulled that one.
I pulled that one out of nowhere. All right, we'll be right back. The want of way doesn't let me down and just me around and then where's the bothers? Me down about way? The when you say, who has? But I gotta spill I meet you