Breaking down all the excess als. It's Steve Leverra and Jagan Salmis. This is I Am the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen th Hey, welcome back to winning the Ball here Fox Sports fourteen fiftie. I'm Steve. He's Jay got a guy Jason with breaking news. Your music sucks. Hey, y'all, you gotta turn on the button. Remember that which one per segue right there? This one? Yeah, no, hit it. Okay, let's see it. Well you got Trump the volume two. We got it all right,
I should criticize, okay. Um Arizona Women's Golf head coach Laura Lannello wash Yeah. Ilanello was selected for the h w GCA's watch List for now I'm the coach of the Year. Awesome, you know again. You know she got her team hot at the end of the year. Yeah, you know they're going to the NC DOUBLEA. So good for them. Yeah. She's one of our favorites. Yeah, she's been she's fun on the show.
Ye, so yeah. Nick um McQuary has been named one of the top of twenty five shortstops in the nation as semi finalists for Brooks Wallace Award. He's a he's a little guy, and he's hit some homers out of high corporate and I'm like, I don't know that I could hit a golf ball out of high corporate. I know's he's you know, he's been a really good player for Arizona. A shortstop and uh yeah one considering the top shortstops. He's been there for a while, right, who does he I
think he's a senior. Yeah, because he's the long hair. Everybody's kind of he's been there for a long time. I think, yeah, he's been you know, kind of like a Hawaiian guy, right, yeah, yeah. Um, League source confirms Wizard assant coach Um Joseph Blair any of you for the Bucks head coach position. Um Blair has been with the Sixers, Timberwolves and Wizards for the past a few seasons. Um. He actually played college bought here at Arizona and pro ball in Europe. So Jay,
so I covered him for all those years. Rusta soul Judith was his number one fan. Everywhere whoever he went, Judith was there. He's probably and I'm just off the top of my head, one of the guys who've come come the furthest in my time, in my time because Let's remember he was a heck of a player. I think he even holds the record for a field goal percentage for in a year career whatever. But at the end of his career he was academically ineligible ever he had, he got suspended, blah
blah, didn't finish his year. He's come from this, from that to this where he's there and he's already in the NBA for a long time now, drafted in the second round, didn't get to play because of politics or whatever. Had a great career. Um. But I was with somebody, uh, somebody who's in the NBA. I won't say who because I don't want to embarrass him, about three years ago, and he said, I
said, what about Joseph player. He says, he's gonna be somebody he's got he knows he's got it. And I think if you, if you talk to people who know Joseph, he's got that voice, he's got that presence, the president. That's the important, the presidence, and he knows he knows what to say at the right time. He it's it's BS, but it's not BS. You know what I'm saying. No, And he has it, and I'm thinking Joseph. He says, yeah, watch and now I'm watching. Yeah, Well you look at you look at a guy
like Joseph and look in in a position like that. Appearance doesn't matter. Yeah you're not. Only do you have to know what you're doing. You have to look like you know what this is your dress? But you do. But I mean, you look at a guy like Steve Kerr. You know, he walks in the room, he's you know, he's sixty three or six whatever, all right, but he's otherwise an unassuming guy. But yet you see him walking the sidelines. You see his mannerisms, you know,
to put the microphone on him in a huddle. He looks and acts like a coach. Yeah, and then you see other guys you go, what the hell is that guy doing coaching? And those are the guys that get fired, You jump from job ja but somehow they keep getting employed. But you know, a guy like a guy like Joseph Blair. You can picture Joseph walking up and down the sideline. Yeah, he's imposing, he's big, he's six foot ten whatever, dresses you know. Well, yeah,
we know he's only been on the show once. Since I've been been here. You know, and just a conversation with him, You're like, how can you not be impressed by this? But right, no, no, I know there's other things I'd like to say. But he was on the show a few times with me before you came on the day of the place. Uh, he won the title in the D League when he was with the Viper in the back then. I think it was the D he want with the Vipers. Very just knows how to handle people, right,
and and and who's the number one guy with that? Steve Kerr right handling? Everyone says, uh did we? We talked about this maybe two weeks ago with what's his name Jackson Jackson who had the team before, who had a bunch of good players. Right, Okay, you're the coach, but if you don't know how to handle a team, what's the point? Yeah, well that was the conversation. She said, Well, Steve Kurs winning with all of Mark Jackson's guys, Well, because Mark Jackson didn't win with
those guys. We just see it here, right, you have all the talent, but you can't do any with it. What's the point? Yeah, exactly, No, I hear you. And uh, you know, you just get the sense from Joseph and I don't. That's the only time I've ever talked Okay, the time we had him on the show, all those years that he was here, I never really talked him. But um, you know, you talk to him and you you sense that hit.
This is a guy who's been very busy learning the ropes, knowing the ropes, just biding his time, you know, working on you know, on NBA staffs. He did the G League thing, um and just really kind of he did this almost been very patient and he did the thing with Sean for a year. I mean, he's still a relatively young man, you know. So you know, good luck to him. Good luck to him. If he doesn't get this job, he will eventually bring through. Well.
Before we move on to another part of this is the word is also out that Calvin Sampson as a as the interviewed for that job. He's, uh, you know, I like, I've talked to Calvin more times than I talked to Joseph Blair, But I like Calvin, Um, is he a good college coach? Is he? Is he a better college coach? And he'd be an NBA coach. He did go to the NBA as an assistant for a while when he got in trouble with the NC double A. But you know, Calvin said, and he's sixty eight years old, so
he's he's got miles. So we'll see what happens. But it'd be interesting to see if he I mean, the Bucks are a good franchise, a really good team, Joseph Blair would not be stepping into a building situation. They would be They would be expected to be good right away, part of part of coaching at that level, at any level. I think that Kingsbury's would this is what he'd write it too in Phoenix. If you don't have a presence in the room, and if you don't demand, demand, or
get the respect from the players, your toast, your toast. And he came from college directly to the pro. He almost fell into the job, right right, He didn't really you know what I'm saying? Yeah? Uh, And how are you gonna be respected that way? Well again, let's
let's you know, let's go to the Dion Sanders example. Why why is Deon Sanders getting all the attention that that he's getting for what he's doing in Colorado months before they've even played a game, Because he has a presidence president and he's got who he's got his cachet, right right, exactly, all right. The Arizona men's golf team, uh ended up finishing in eighth place in the Morgan Hill Regional Tournament. Um, they tied it for eighth place.
Um. The top five teams will be advancing for the championship game. So that would have been that would have been my question. Did they qualify? So alright, next run? I guess yeah, yeah, you know, I think, you know, Jim Anderson's gotten his team to or program to a point where they expect to, you know, at least get to the nc you know, get to the national tournament every year. But you know, they just didn't do They got off to a bad start and ultimately
they finished the fourteen strokes out of qualifying. Mississippi State, Brigham Young, Florida State, Baylor, and Pepperdine. Well if i'd out of their region, um and as as uh as um what's your name? You as? Jason said, they they they finished in eighth place, so they didn't get there, but you know, I think they're still probably happy with their season. Yeah. Um. The Arizona Coyotes planned to build a new arena in
Tempe UM as a part of the two point one billion entertainment district. UM. This was rejected by voters UM yesterday, UM the team plans on the team said, if you its future will be evaluated by our owners in the National Hockey League in the coming weeks. A lot of up said people up in Phoenix on the sports side, you know, if you saw writers and
and people who we follow on social media. You know, but you know what, UM, you put it up for a vote, you lose, You take your lumps with it, you know, And that's the way it is. That's you know, the majority of the people in temped didn't want it, so they don't get it. It'll be interesting to see what, uh, you know, what the NHL does, what the Coyotes do. UM. If you know, there's a lot of there's a lot of been a lot of discussion today that the Coyotes will will not only leave, but
they'll have to leave Arizona. Well because they don't have an arena. The plane they're not going to take them back at the Footprint Center. That that that was a relationship that didn't work very well UM, and they ended up going to the Hilo River Arena way out there in uh in Glendale, and now they don't have a place. They're playing in that little arena that a hockey plays in. That's not a place where an NHL team ought to be
playing. So it'll be interesting to see what happens. The NBA Draft order was announced yesterday. The top five teams that will be drafting. What are the Detroit Pistons, Houston Rockets, um Poland Trailblazers, Charlotte Hornet's and San Antonio Spurs The number one pick. So obviously we all, I think know who the number one pick will be. Victor one biama U. How do
you guys think? O? There fourteen? Well, let's go to Victor for a minute, okay, because you know they're they're I mean, they're annointing this guy as even a better prospect than Lebron Ja Lebron, Michael, you know all those guys. I'm like, wait a minute, wait a minute. The guy is with seven five seven four seven five yea like one
hundred and fifty pounds. Yeah, okay, we saw what happened to Jeth Holme Grin right, you didn't even get to play in this whole scene, right, you know, there's a physical toll your body takes when you get into the NBA. And I'm sorry, it's kind of like the Bryce Young thing and the Kyler Murray thing. How I get that Victor weimbon Yama can do things as a seven four seven five player that other seven footers can't do.
But what's it? What's the physical told that it's going to be exacted from him when he starts out there, when he's out there banging around with yok Yeah, that's because what the hell's gonna happen? Even guys like Yannis when you came into the league, he was really really good on both sides of the ball, but he had to you know, bulk up to really
be able to become one of the best players in the league. We saw up in the chat this past season, Kevin Durrant even had to get a little bit bigger, right, Like, you know, he's very talented and both sides of the ball, but that physicality aspect of the game is still
going to a big portion of how he actually performed in the league. My forms are as big as his, can I don't disagree with you, Jay, Let me go to the other side of the poll, you have DeAndre Aden, who's built like a Greek goddess, who can't do any of that either. But he doesn't have Yeah, I mean yeah, but he's not he's not he's not losing his you know, he's he's playing. He's not getting hurt and getting his ass kicked physically. By that, I mean,
you know, getting hurt and stuff like that. He's just not any good, right, you know, Or I shouldn't say that he doesn't have it. He's just not as good as you would expect him to be with the body and stuff that. My point to that is the body really doesn't If you can play, you can play. Um. I mean, I mean I haven't seen much of it except for high Yeah. No one puts bad plays on your head, so you're gonna see the nice thing. Yeah, So I'm excited. I think that Chet will have a nice career. We
saw Bradley, remember brad brad See, he had a nice career. Wasn't great, wasn't bad great, but he was he had a lot more than a cup of coffee seven eight years Um. Right. I think the hype, like you said, the hype behind him is I think it's too much like the standards he's being said to without even playing one second in the NBA. Is I think is going to you know, kind of you know, hurt his career in the long term, I believe. So, yeah, we'll see, we'll see. I don't I don't, I don't agree.
I don't agree with Jay's philosophy. Yeah, okay, but I get it. I get what he's saying, right, Okay. Um, the Blazers actually intended trade the number one three overall pick in the draft to try and build a championship team around Damian Lillard. So that again, the Blazers intended trade throughout number three pick you try and build it to get a bunch of players, of players, they don't want Damian Lillard to leave, right,
So they're gonna try this again. Who else do they? I mean, they have have a couple of good players, but no one that's like, you know, going would really helped them. I think that's what they're drafting, right exactly. Yeah, So we'll see. I mean, they're just trying to appease Dame. Basically, they don't want them to, you know, request for trade and leave. So the mind hurt when C. J. McColeman to give it their head had a dodge. Yeah, they had
the chances to, um, you know, win a championship. They just you know, came up short a fortune that one year against the Warriors where um, I think Kevin Duran was hurt and it was just Dame c J versus claiming occurred and you know they came up short. They got they got swept. So yeah, yeah, we'll see. Um. The Champions League league is finally said for June tenth. It's going to be between Man City and inter Milan. Um. Yeah, yes, think about that soccer.
They don't okay, Yeah we had the soccer last time. Yeah, okay, um, so it we really are. Some Phoenix Suns news, Chris Paul is expected to open up next season as the starting point guard for the team. According to Chris What's What's today May to May seventeenth. Yeah, that's what he says on May seventeenth. Yeah, Chris Paul, Okay,
yeah, we'll see. Um do you guys want him to come back as the starting point guard or do you guys feel like I look, I don't really care, but I but I think that on the state, I believe they need to move on. Okay, I really do what we what did we say all year? All year? At least maybe the last three months. Phoenix is gonna do well. If if and I said if, I hate that word, if if Chris Paul stays healthy, and if what's his name stays stays healthy? Ken if didn't if didn't work out right? Yeah?
If and that's if this if this, if you have to used the word if, Yeah, you're done exactly and he got hurt and once again, so I think it would be best for them to move on. But we'll see what they do. Um James Harden plans to decline his player option and for this off season and see a four year deal with the six Ers
or some other team if you know they're willing to pay him that. So would you guys think you I know we talked about it earlier in the show by him possibly going to Houston, But do you guys think a team will be willing willing to give him a long term contract? Well, somebody will. How old is he? Oh, I'm not sure he's gonna be about thirty eight or two. Somebody'll give it to him. But you know what, I wouldn't pay James hardy, Hey, we better go. You don't
want it because we're gonna get you. Were running out of time. Yeah, so let's go. She'll be calling in a couple of minutes, so we'll have her talk about a lot of things about what it takes to put on a final four. Yeah right, and she's she's in the middle of it, so all right, let's take that break. We'll better fact.
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Phoenix NCWA Men's Final Four Posts Committee. Jay, how are you doing? I am fantastic and ready to get to this Men's Final Four party started. You have about ten months I think is it going to be crazy? Are you okay? And contemporating it as you go along? How far along are you we? You know, we've been planning for several months after getting the bid back in twenty eighteen. But as you said, we've got about three hundred and twenty five days to go, and so we are pacing well.
But it will it will definitely get to be a fever pitch the closer we get. Yeah, well, we're talking to off air. You've you've been You've done this for two super Bowls down in uh or up in Phoenix or in Glendale. Are there similarities to all of this in terms of the magnitude of the event? The super Bowl obviously big deal, Final Four huge deal. When when you compare the two events, where are they similar and where
are they very different? There are a lot of similarities because the reason Arizona to host major events like a super Bowl and a Men's Final four and then a women's Final four coming up in twenty twenty six is because they do create so much economic impact and community impact throughout the state and really to put us on the map, you know, in terms of right there's global exposure and put us on the map as a world class destination. So those are the
same. Some of the differences are as you know, the Men's Final Four is four teams and two competition dates, you know, a Saturday and a Monday next April sixth and eight, and so it does have a different flavor at the collegiate level, and so it's kind of fun to embrace that as we get a little bit closer. So how do you know, having been to the two Super Bowls and now this, how do you know if you've done a good job? And I know that's kind of a weird question,
but less complaints, a lot of praise. How do you know what you did? But that's exactly it. So as you know, people are not afraid to give feedback, and so I'm to show actually, you know,
you know what I'm talking about. So we get a lot of qualitative feedback you know, before the event, during the planning stage in the case of Super Bowl, from the NFL or in the case of the Men's Final Four from the NC Double A, and then after the fact, you know, really coming out of Super Bowl, there was just such high praise for how the state operated, how all the events went, how public safety was handled. We really just from start to finish there was so much positive feedback.
That's kind of part one, and then part two is we do a lot of measurement. You know, we create and have an economic impact study. We measure, you know, in the number of CEOs that came to Arizona and are they going to bring their business here? So there's a lot of metrics that go into it as well. And it was a it was a record breaking super Bowl and worked see the same for the Men's Final Four. Okay, so back when you did the first super Bowl that was twenty fifteen,
you said, yeah, the first one. When you stepped into that job, at what point or was there a point where you thought, Holy Kyle, this is way bigger than I can get my arms around. How do you manage that thought process for you to not get overwhelmed by what has to be done to put on, say a super Bowl. We're a final
four? Sure? A great question. And it's so funny because when it hit me is when I was doing a sight visit in twenty thirteen to the Super Bowl in New Orleans, and I saw all of the ancillary events that were taking place, and then we went into the stadium and the game was happening, and you know, midway through the lights went out. Oh I remember that. Yeah, and so I am thinking to myself, we have to keep the lights on too, something that had never occurred to me.
So that definitely spent a message right of how you need to have your backup in your contingencies. And so from there, I mean the beauty of it was the chairman of the board is the president of Salt River Project, which is an our company. So it all worked out when we got to Arizona in twenty fifteen. But then from there, you just take this enormous project plan and you just approach it in fite size pieces, right day by day, month by month. And what it takes is all the support from around
Arizona. You know, whether it's elected officials, it's business leaders, it's tribal leaders, it's media. I mean, it's it's a team effort to host one of these major events. So don't hang up the phone on just give me a leeway on this question. So did you did you participate or help out in seventeen with the final four there? And I go this question for this reason, Glendale has grown so much since then it has that great
area with the casino now a lot of things to do. In seventeen, the final four was separated, it would there downtown or there places where in Orleans like you were San Antonio, it's all in one place. Is there a chance to do that maybe in one place in Phoenix or in Glendale. What we love about these major events, and I'm not going to hang up on you, sow, what we love is that Arizona has so many great communities and they each have a different personality, right whether it's Tucson, or
its Phoenix, or it's Gustal or it's Glendale. And so what we love is really introducing our visitors as well as our locals to all those different communities. And so while it may feel like they're separated, it does allow us to really move people around and let them experience the entire state, you know, before the event and after the event, and the Grand Canyon and the Catalina Mountains, whatever it is. I mean, we love showcasing all of
that with these major events. So so when you've got as you mentioned, you've got four teams coming in, they'll be here for you know, close to a week. Um, where does is there like a line drawn between what you as the host committee does in preparation for all of this and then what's firmly in the hands of the NC Double A and what they do and how they run or who runs the actual show. I'll just say I worked.
I worked at the Final four. I work at NC Double A tournaments all the time as a volunteers, and I'll be up for this when Doug Tamara is a good friend of mine. But I see the operation behind the scenes and how put together it is, right, it's it's well organized, and but there's there's a There has to be a point where what the host committee does and all the work it does in terms of you know, events and stuff like that, and then what the NC Double A does to actually
do the games. Is there a line? There is there? Just you guys work together on all of it. You know what we work together on all of it. I mean it's highly integrated between the host Committee, the NCAA and then the host university is Arizona State, right, And we'll come back to the universities in a minute. And so we have been, as
they said, planning for months. We have monthly meetings with the ncuble A, they come to town and we you know, go through the project plan, if you will, and the timelines, and we do divide and conquer, right because ultimately the NCAA and Arizona State, I mean, they run the game operations the day of the game on the court, right, they are experts at that, right. The host committee doesn't need to be involved
in that, okay. But frankly, everything else leading up to it, whether it's the fan fest at the Phoenix Convention Center, or it's how do we bring in the visiting teams, you know, the airport logistics, the buses, I mean, all those things we worked together on. Got it, got it? Okay? All right? So you were down in Tucson to speak to a group. So if you're going to highlight the rest of the state, I'm sure Tucson is going to be highlighted as well, exactly.
I mean, Tucson is such an important community to us. Obviously, Wildcat Country is going strong in Tucson and we today I was down with the Tucson Metro Chamber, so it's over. You know, a few hundred businesses in Tucson and they were having their business summit in Expo and so I got to speak to them about major events and why we do them for the state and how it really accelerates our business growth and our resident growth. And obviously
it's a big giant commercial for Old War. And we also want to make sure that the U of A is involved, right U of A, GCU n AU. We want all of our Division one schools to be involved in showcase. As I said the state. So, so, what was your message to the business folks down here, Amy, What are you asking them to do or what would you like to see them do to participate in some form or another in the Final four and just be a big part of it.
What was your message to them? Sure, I think first and foremost, we want fans to be involved and come to all these ancillary events that we create surrounding the games on Saturday and Monday. So we want fandom to be energized and excited about participating in the men's Final four next year and then the women's Final four and twenty six. So first and foremost fandom. We have a lot of volunteers that come from around the state to work the events
and the games, and so we'd love to have people volunteer. We also get businesses involved in a number of different ways. We have one business program that is for diversely owned businesses and they get the opportunity to bid on contract associated with events around Super Bowl and the Final Four and sponsorship, and we
include nonprofits. So it's really a matter of, you know, figuring out how people want to plug in. So this is not a question for me, but one of our listeners says, how crazy is that going to be when Arizona's at the Final four? Diction. Of course, they're very hopeful,
They're always open. Do you know what we should be hopeful? I mean, I think that it would be fantastic, right, I mean Arizona has one one championship with Loot at the helm Um, so you know, anything possible based on what we saw at the Final four in Houston, I think so, yeah, very true. Fantastic, Yeah, very true. Well, and I think I actually the last one here. I think fans were incredibly disappointed because there's a field that Arizona should have been at that Final
four and weren't. So but right when you mentioned a few things, and it's like I'm trying to wrap my head around everything that has to take, Like you just talked about things like security and traffic in those kinds of things. I mean, how again, how do you pull all that together? You say, you have a project plan and are there just a lot of people that are that take those things and run with them or how does that work to get all these aspects of running this type of event together? Yeah?
Sure, yeah, sure, it's a great it's a great point. And so I have a full time staff that's now working on this at the Host Committee. And so think of us as really the you know, hub
of the of the wheel. And then there's spokes around the state and around the valley that you know, we have a public safety spoke, we have a hotel spoke, we have a media spoke, we have a marketing spoke, and then we incorporate, um, you know, the subject matter experts if you will, from around Arizona, and then that's who we tap the NCAA into throughout the planning process. An as, So, what's the next step, Like I said, you have about ten months, you said,
three hundred some days left before the event. What's the priorities now? And
I think Andy send me a note about tickets deadlines coming up? Yes, and so we do want to make sure that our locals have an opportunity for tickets, and so there's a ticket application process that ends the end of this month, so May three first, and so we are directing everyone to go to Phoenix Final four dot com and the ticket application process and it just like click on that and you can sign up for tickets and then the NCAA does
a random drawing and so folks will know if they're selected by early fall to get the tickets. And you know, obviously we want to make sure that as many locals get a chance at this as possible. So it's Phoenix Final four dot com. I think in the past, if I'm correct, they had to find a pay in advance and if they didn't get it to get
refunded or is that wrong? That's exactly right. So you pay two hundred or fifty dollars per ticket and you can, you know, put in for up to four tickets and then there's a twenty five dollar processing fee and so you get fully refunded if you don't get the tickets, minus the handling fee. And if you do get the tickets, then you're they're yours. Didn't you get charged? Okay, Okay, what are you looking most forward to with this? You again, you've done Super Bowl, so you're not going
to be like intimidated or probably in awe. But when you do, you know, when the final four comes around, you know what are you look looking most forward to? As as as as it's unfolding. So I love
how Arizona shines on the global stage. And so when all of our local stakeholders come together and I mentioned you know, many of them earlier, and work together and just roll up the red carpet for our visitors and for our locals, and people come to Arizona and they just have such a great time and great memories around sport and around you know, the game of college basketball. I mean, there's just nothing better than that, and people will remember
it forever. Like that's kind of part one. And then all those positive impacts that we get to create here on Arizona around these major events. It's it's really meaningful, and it accelerates things that we wanted to do otherwise for our state. Right whether it's updating or airport or um remodeling hotels or you know, whatever it might be. It accelerates all those business initiatives. Super super Jay. Well, thanks for joining us. We'll hope to talk to
you again as we get closer. This is exciting Steve and Jay. I appreciate you having us on and we look forward to talking more about the men's final four. Great, right, great to hear for you. Thank you, Andy. Uh, take care, it's uh, it's about we got to take a break real quick. But interesting stuff. I mean, you're
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Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeart Radio Whip just surgeony I on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to twenty on the Ball, Hero Sports fourteens to the Earth. Steve Tuesday, Jason with us today seventeen minutes. Give us a call five two old four one six seventy four forty. Uh you wanted to continue the conversation. We have a couple of breaking news too, Yeah, you want to go to the breaking news? First? Um, we didn't talk about the UA recruit.
Oh yeah, I guess we should do that. And then the Kleb love thing. Right, so we go past real quick, a couple of these things. Um. First of all, uh again U, it was announced on social media that uh, Tommy Lloyd has another another commitment from another overseas player. His name. I don't know if you should even try to say it? Go ahead? Did you do with it? Um? I can't find I posted? Hold on it's um it's uh Polis Polius Paulius Maurus m U R A U S K A S. Yeah, he's he's a six
foot kid six foot eight kid out of also out of Lithuania. Um so another another year old guy again. You know, you see some responses to this when he's not getting enough American guy, YadA, YadA, YadA. You know, a while back he groupist that he wasn't getting any guys, and now that he is, and you're still unhappy, So get the hell out of here. Just unhappy people will always be unhappy people, exactly. And then word is out that Caleb loved and Michigan point guard I'm not mission.
The North Carolina point guard who went in the transfer portal committed to Michigan is now not going to Michigan and he's back in the port You wouldn't know what the reason why no admissions. Oh they wouldn't let him in. So's there's yeah, so I don't know if he'll be allowed to get in here, right right right? So so anyways, um so there's there's those couple of things. Um, this just came up, and we'll talk about final fours and stuff like that. This just came up though. Um. Jason
Sheer posted this answer to a question by Dave Hekey. I don't know where this question right, I don't know if it's an interview he did or that somebody did. But it was a question to Dave, and it said, and what are your hopes for your conference as you move into the new phase? And he said, I'm sure to say it because it might change tomorrow, but we're faced with a new and ever changing world in conference alignments, adjustments will have to be made, but I know that we will land in
a very good spot, certainly the hope. And who knows, whenever you print, the result may be different than the hope. But would like to be with the PAC twelve and continue the great tradition of the conference. But if not, there will be a new landscape and a new opportunity for the University of Arizona. I mean it's about hope. We've been hearing right that, you know, and I think that's sort of been the hope of everybody. If you're not going to the PAC twelve, you better have a you
better have a plan B. And it sounds like they might have. Let's take this call, oh cost back? Yeah, yeah, give us a call back. We'll we'll try we'll try and grab it before um. Anyways, um we're in there. Does it say that they're going to the Big twelve, doesn't Somebody who's respond said, Oh, so, I guess we're going to the Big twelve. Those who are unhappy will always remain unhappy. Those who don't listen will always not listen. Oh my gosh, All right
again I get I get so frustrated with the people on social media. Get out. Let's take this. How you're on the air and night in the ball. Yeah, this is out on Phoenix. How are you guys doing good? All? How are you? I'm all right, I you know, I haven't called for a while, but yeah, I've been watching, you know, seeing from me pulling all these kids from bliss Awnia, and I'm not sure what to think he's doing because I don't know if any of them can play these big guys. You know. It's kind of a little
head scratching, to be honest. Yeah, So you you're not believing in Tommy not not in his recruiting. It's it's there's there's a word that starts was asked and ends with kay that I'm thinking about when it comes to it right now, because I'm just being impressed by, you know, so a few of them players. Yeah, but these his strategy to get big guys. That's like they're gonna sit on the bench forever. I just don't understand. So there's gins and ends. Can I buy a vowel? Could I
do? Uh? Well? Did you shrure to me asking did you trust Sean when he was doing his recruiting? Oh? He I woke it. We gotta give him the devil his due. Literally, his was out standing most of the time. He had a lot of you know, and that's what Tommy won with Tommy one with Shawn's likes. So he's home guys, he's getting I'm I'm not sure he's faster. Is he ever gonna do anything? He's sent as a rail. It looks like, you know, sorry, but he's kind of let me ask you are you? Are you not?
Uh? Are you? How can I say this? Are you not aware? Because you've never seen them play, you don't know who they are, and you saw the other guys, So you feel more comfortable or you Yeah, you feel more comfortable. Yeah, you know they got more you know. It's just like, uh, I know he was after the guy for the kid from San Dieo State that they didn't get who looked really good.
Would have been great, and you have a uniform. But unfortunately didn't get what kind of I thought you're players that they're They don't pan out a lot, and even Tabella's who had a lot offense, at least had an offensive game. I mean, he is a lot of parts of hit game that we're never there. So I'm just always skeptical. You know, some of the guys had gone Baggy got like if he gets another SA bonus, that's a different store. But I don't know about the ones he's pulling in
right now. Yeah, well you did you do you know for a fact the San Diego Kid is not coming. I didn't see that. I thought he was announcing that we heard on Saturday. Oh I thought I saw somebody because I thought because they got this, they keeping these I hear, like, I thought these are the consolation Croc didn't get this kid. I didn't. I haven't seen that a sort something. You know, you read Twitter, and sometimes you don't know what's the truth and what's the uh you know
what's not not true? San Diego Kid comes in Saturday, or we'll make it Saturday. So oh god, they need him, Oh they need him so bad. So we'll see what happens. I don't. I don't um I understand what you're saying. Because you haven't seen these guys. You don't know how good they are, whether they're skinny or fat or whatever, or fast or slower. Well, we'll see when we see. But I you don't know the unknown, you don't know what. You don't know, so
pretty much that's true. It's just you know the first the results, like I said, because Vaster came in so hyped up and then he I mean he did, he did it, looked like he did it. He's the project, you know, maybe, and that's what project not good, and he is. I think he's gonna be fantastic. I think all these so called projects that you you labeled are going to be fine down the road. I know we're into immediate satisfaction, and I'm not here to alibi coach Tommy
Lloyd, but I think that you'll be okay with what he has. What okay means I do not know? Right Well, that makes him feel better. I appreciate that. I think he kind of was hurt by coming in with so much talent and winning so much, and now he's kind of it's like if he doesn't have that. Everyone's gonna say, you know, he's he couldn't he's kind a little bit how fun it's a double or to win that much in initial how I used to be a car salesman. One day,
one month, I sold seven cars. He told me send sel ten. The next they said self fifteen. The next I got out of the business. You understand what I'm saying. Well, I might have to read your blu Please do you put out another. I'm looking forward to thank you all. Thanks for the call. Appreciate you listening. You know, if he's not how it is, that's where we are, you know, because
you got you got guy like al who liked Sean Miller's recruiting. And I didn't want to you know, I'm happy that he called, but I wanted to say, so did you like when these guys would come in here for a year and leave didn't show and yeah, and so you know, I mean, it's a matter of what, you know, what matters to you. You don't want to piss off the guests. I didn't want to piss off the guests. I really didn't. I have some apply for you.
I know you're I know you're wondering. You know what happened to me, But you know, what do you do? But you know it's well, we don't know though, right, I don't know. But we think Henry Weiser is going to be good. I think but he certainly he showed flashes of it last year. But you know he didn't play because he wasn't doing what Tommy needed him to do to be able to play, you know. And and it was the same situe with the Dama ball. Who's now gone? All right, high, you're on the air and on the ball.
How's it going today? What's up? Ryan? Well? Just calling about you know, the recruiting thing. Um, you know. The one thing and I've said past is one good thing about the European players. Okay, they don't have the ego like the American players. And everybody complains if you get why aren't we getting five star players? And one of the problems you get the five star players they're gone in the year. Yeah. One good
thing about the European players. Most of them stay two three years and you're able to develop them right right, And then you know, and it's also everybody says, well, Sean Miller had all these guys, Well, Sean Miller didn't win with these guys. Exactly. You're gonna write the tale of my book, my next exactly. That's what we've been talking about. How are you gonna make these people happy? You? You? You set the example perfectly. You get you get good talent to jump the ship, you
get them. I'm gonna stay here longer you cry about it. I mean, at some point there's a medium here. Yeah, making everybody happy thing too. I was reading today about that kid who went from Michigan to Kansas. Yeah. Well, he's the first person I've seen admit that he went for the n i OL money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he did, and you know he did you know, Yeah, that's kind of
that underground thing. Yeah. Well, you know. And also to the kid who went from Carolina to Michigan who didn't qualify grade wise, you know, um, well that's not so, that's not surprising that he got to play with Carolina and not have to go to school. They are pretty good about giving away freeze free diplomas, sen letters to our coloradoe to us. He's not lying. No, he's not lying. He does evidence. He's not lying. You're not lying, right? Well, no, I mean
when what's her name? When they got in trouble, that guy said, I got a degree. I didn't even know how to read after four years exactly all right, right, but you know, and they said, well it's available to every student. I don't think that was, but it was, yeah, exactly. Okay, Hey, Bran, thanks the whole bunch. Man, appreciate it. You got about six minutes. All good points.
I mean, and they'll make some good points too. And look, the knock on the European guys, and particularly the guys that that you know that uh Tommy Lawrders brought in is that they're not tough enough. You know what they're saying, Well, you got it, you know, because they're they're more finesse kind of players. But you know they you know, they had they played with the beauty of the game. Wait a second, So Sean brought in guys who were tough enough to well, you're right, you're
right, I don't remember. Maybe prepare them. Okay, we had five to ten years, twelve years. We've got one guy, Solomon Hill is tough guy. That was That was that was that was when you were a young son. That was a Sean that was a lout time of type of sean thing. Yeah, okay, so but he was a finesse guy too. He was a smart guy played in the league. You know what I'm saying, right, Arizona's got a history of not correct be tough enough.
This is just not a one coach there. I mean, you know, when you think about the remember the Lout's first couple of tournament teams that got blasted by by Charles Barkley and right, and just beat the hell out of them physically. And I've said historically they're not They're not a tough group.
They're basketball playing. Yeah, exactly. All right. Hey, so going back to you know, the final four stuff, I think you know you've been behind the scenes of a million of them because you've covered up however many you know, four or five hundred of them right now, and uh, you know, and I've worked a few, worked the NC double A ternams and stuff. I don't I don't know that anybody realizes how much work,
how much working well without questions, and how much work it entails. And it was funny because I've worked a number of regionals, first and second rounds, but I had not worked a final four until the last one. In Phoenix, and the step up in the amount of stuff that has to be done and that they have to take care of, and then the the staff that they bring to do those things. People would be shocked as to what
it takes you put on a Final four. That's why I asked the question, you know, where's the dividing line between what a host committee does? You know what the NC double A does. She mentioned the host schools that you know, Arizona State is the whole school. I mentioned Doug Tamara who's their sports information director. He's in charge of the media operation. And I remember UM at one of at one of the previous UH it used to be that you had to host a regional the year before you host the Final four,
sort of as a dry run. And the regional that that they hosted at the Cardinal Stadium the year before UH seventeen the Final four. Mark Brand who was he was the sports information guy. The notebook he had to carry for just the media operation, it was literally six inches there and he was hauling that thing around. I felt like, dude, you need a backpack or a cart when you think about when you think about that, it was just that piece of it and now how you know you have to with the
way the magnitude of the event. Now you know there's seventy thousand people you know at these uh the Final four, Now it's a twenty five or thirty thousand. No, that's like there's not a wedding anymore or birthday party. So the one thing the question I tried to be nice with and kind of funny with was the was the location right? And you've been to? Well, you went to this. I've been to eighteen of them, and the one in New York was horrible because the game was played in New Jersey.
We had to get in the bus. People in New York didn't give a crap about the final four. We uh. Places where you have to go centralize San Antonio, New Orleans, the one in Charlotte, the one in the Indie all place, one big party, the one in Phoenix people. The one complaint I heard was downtown they had the fan fast by all the concerts. And then in Glendale they get in your car and then have you taken that trip to get across town? Yeah, it ain't. It ain't
easy. It's like an hour to get across town. So you can enjoy walk around and see this thing. Can That's that's my only That's why I asked the question. Well, like like I think I said before, you know, I work in that four I drove home after the after after each day. Sure, I just went home because it was going to take me as long to get to hotel in the middle of Phoenix exactly. I just
you know, high tailed it out of there. And and and to this day, I kind of feel like we missed a lot of of the event because we came home and we're not you know, we're not part of it. And what we're gonna do it differently this year. Um, but uh, you know, I'm looking forward to it. But that that that's a tough that's a tough deal, uh, you know, for it to be as separated as it is. And her answer was a good one. They
want to kind of share the wealth and everything going around. But for the fans, the fact that well, the fact of the matter is they don't have the facilities out in Glendale. True, that's they need to have to be able to do all this stuff. True, but have you been out there? But the state it's plenty of room, and the new casino and just the sin so so many things going on out there, you think,
But I get it. I get it. The thing about the travel, like you said, it just as as long as it takes you to get from downtown to two, it's almost an amount of time it takes you downtown to get to Glendale because of the traffic. Yeah, no doubt so. So it's a great event. Oh, it's a fantastic event. Yeah, being fans all over the from all over. Yeah, wouldn't it be cool
that Arizona plan event. And we thought we thought that was going to happen, and was it twenty seventeen seventeen, we thought that was gonna happen. I remember being I was angry, you know, because I worked the regional in San Jose when it was lost to Xavier. I'm literally on the court, yeah, and I I wanted I wanted to go beat up Alonzo Trier on the court right there. Wait a sec. Okay, they get by
the game, They're not getting there. In the end, they were not going to beat Gunzagging right and to the to l to the point that we kind of wanted to make with all that Gunzaga team was a bunch of twenty four year olds a bunch of men, a bunch of men that we're gonna beat the hell out of Larry marking In and Alonzo Trier and Raley Alkins. We're all to twelve year olds, right, you know what? That's high
sort of um? What's the right word? Came to Griffs with the fact that they didn't get there was that a I don't know if they would have beaten Gonzaga day, Yeah, it would have been a heck of a game, but who knows. A good show today, good show today, fun. Thank you Jay Perry for joining us. And John Pronan, let's go buy a piece of his team. He would like a horse, right like
the horse? Okay, tomorrow, back tomorrow. Dave hk will be be joining us tomorrow, and I think I think we've got John Wilmer so we can talk some Pack twelve stuff. Be sure to come back tomorrow