This is I on the Wall with Steve Rivera and Jakonsalis on Fox Sports fourteen powered by Nova Insurance Services. Hey, sure your most prized possessions, katz R two SID and i Heeart Radio Station. Yet the good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jakin's also got a guy Jason in today working machines. Hopefully everything will go okay today. We did okay yesterday though, didn't we
except for the stepper didn't come on at the start. We didn't know what one of the buttons was not pressed. Okay, cool, Cool, It's Wednesday. It's hot at the beginning of the summer. Yeah, it's getting hot. Sucks, it is what it is. Let to see you. Jason. Wasn't sure you'd be here after last night's Denver win. Yeah, I'm not worried about it, so I am. Yeah, I am. Good game last night. Yeah, but you know, um, you know,
Denver got out on them big. But the you know, the Roaring Back, the Lakers stayed with it and gave themselves, gave them was a chance to win. Darn hand man. Some adjudgments. So that was good to see some in game adjustments let the Lakers come back into the game. So you kind of feel almost like, even though the Lakers are down you know, one zip, it was almost a win a win win situation for them because the Lakers, you know, they were getting blown out then didn't
get blown out. So certainly they have to feel good about that. You know, you're supposed to lose on the road in the playoffs and so, um, you know, I'm I'm thinking the Lakers feel pretty decent about themselves the way they came back, and then obviously Denver feels good because they won. Yeah, I would say so. Obviously there's no more victories than playoffs. But I think all things considering, the Lakers feel pretty good about where
they're at. Um, they were able to you know, close the gap in the game to make it a you know, respectable loss, and so I think they feel pretty good. They beat the point spread. I bet they feel good about that defense. Who better. Yes, Yeah, that's why you didn't bet it unless you guided at six, right, because it was the line was six and a half that I saw right before the game. I didn't do anything with it. Steve. I, I you know, I let you off the hook. I figured with about two minutes stuff.
I said, Damn Jay, he probably pulled the trigger on something. He's got some bad mojo. I know you thought that, dude, Jason, Yeah, I thought it might go out my favorite but you know, yeah, well you were hoping for the way. Yeah, the kiss of death hit one of my fantasy pictures. Today, Dust and May for the Dodgers, came out, came out with a he had you know, he had Tommy John surgery last year, and he came out with a painful right elbow. So haven't said, you know what the deal is. But he
came out in the first inning, so he can even last long. Another another one bites the dust, another one bites the DUTs. Okay, okay, so we got two minutes. If you want a call. We have a pretty good show today, eclectic show. Uh should be fun. It should be fun. Jan Yeah, we talked to him about three four weeks ago. Right, we talk about the season opener. Now, I'm interested about being an owner in the FC two song. Right, they put a thing out on social media that you can invest in the team, you can
be a part owner. Well, ask him, you know what do you get with that? Right? Right? And uh, you know and and and you know what's really what's the purpose? You know, what are they doing this? You know, is it a Green Bay Packers thing where they
just want the community to be invested in it. Yeah, you know, it's probably not an opportunity to you know, make any money if you're an investor, but it's an opportunity to raise money for them because people say, you know, all these people who are part owners of the packers, they don't make any money off. Yeah, they don't get any pro They can just say they've got a you know, I want a thing on the wall that says I'm a part owner. They get discord of tickets something we'll check.
I don't know, we'll see, but we'll see what all that means. But yeah, he's uh, they're listening, uh for people to invest in in a FC two soon. Also ask him about this, this women's pro soccer team and does FC two soon have anything to do with that? Uh? USL women's Pro team coming to coming to Tucson. Okay, I didn't know that. You didn't see that. I got announced At the same time a couple of days ago. I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't think you got put out as an FC two song, okay,
or if it is, that's not how I read it. It's just I don't know if it's a separate franchise or we'll ask okay, cool, cool. And then in the second hour, we're gonna have the Jay Perry, a female. She runs the committee to the CEO, the female jed, I made a mistake when you know, um Andrew Andy. Uh, he's a friend of but forget to beg now Yeah, okay, So so he's ahead of a PR guy. So he sent me this note. Do you want to have her on? I said, oh, jay on? I think sure? Let him know. No, No, her name is
Jay Perry. Yeah. So former of the Super Bowl, right, she ran the she ran the last super Bowl host commedie and now she's running the final four host commedie. So you know, just continuing to work. You know, how do you get that job right? How do you get right? But that's what's the career ladder jobs they do that The super Bowl is pretty big deal and this one. See what they have planned because she was in town today to talk I guess maybe do some pr stuff in the in
the community. So we'll see a ball all about that. She's gonna call him maybe ten minutes or so. Yep, Um, so that'd be fun. That'll be fun, and then we'll take your calls. A lot of interesting breaking news locally that has some local stuff to it. Uh. You didn't go to the baseball today, did you? There was a they had a press cover with Chip Hale, Uh to talk about what's going on. Um, maybe maybe we'll see what's going on tomorrow. They got a big
series against the USCA. Again. You gotta win. They gotta win. They got they're just trying to get into the packed off tournament because there's only nine teams get in and they're tied for ninth place right now with Cal you know, so, uh, you know, they gotta get They just gotta get in the tournament to have any shot. But you know, I I think you know, I think it's pretty as they gotta win the tournament.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know to do it, they're not gonna get in that kind of like probably the women's the women, Um, I always we're gonna have hikey on tomorrow. I don't know how all couches, but I probably asked ask you the questions like how we do um, And I've said this to you, Jane, I think you've agreed with me. I thought the fall sports were the anchor sports and made this universe. She kind of come back feeling a feeling of a nice comeback right over the
last few years, right, not this year. No, it's been a struggle, you know, um, you know, I mean the basketball team did great but then left a bad taste and everybody, yeah, and women's women's as well, and then you know, again the you know, the signature spring sports baseball and softball haven't done well. Tracks done okay, Golf,
tennis, Yeah, all those teams did okay. But you know when you hang your hats sort of on baseball and softball in the spring and then they don't do well, that's kind of how people see it, right, right, So there you know what happens. You know, I can't. I always have a bad hair day every now and again. Well you don't have much left though. It's a bad hair days. You know, you can't look good all the time. Well you can. We don't take well, we don't, right, we don't. It's hard it's it's it's hard.
I'm pam way past that. That's what SI would admitted a hat exactly. Okay, so we'll talk to he keep about it tomorrow. Anybody want to call in, please do. We didn't getting calle yesterday. But what are we talking about yesterday? Baby? Ask you? Uh? Or you're a fan, You're a kid, you have all the he loves everything. Uh, like I'm not a sports fan. We talked about that Jay's a fan. We had that. We had the discussion about, you know,
what's the definition of a sports fan? And do you are you a sports fan of what teams? Kind of you don't what I'm saying that sports are you not? Or are you not because you don't want to meet your heroes. That's what I kind of explained to people what we can what we're at think where we settled was it Steve said, he's he keeps saying he's not a sports fan, but because he's not a fan of a spe specific team.
I said, but if you watch sports and you have fun watching sports, and you fall, you watch college football, you watch NFL, you're a sports fan. You're just not a sports fan of a team. I don't have an NFL team that I'm fan, but I'm still a huge NFL fan. Yeah, because he's got juice. He's got juice, right, well, yeah, but still you have no Yeah, I was a huge fan. You watch games because you have to put juice. Oh, I
would still watch the NFL. Okay, Okay, I have said the story that I really wasn't a big fan of the super Bowl until we started. Okay, going to a sports book and making bets on proposition, bet your honor, I rest my case, the defense rest. I give you that much. I give you that so you understand. Yeah, but you're I used to love I got into this, miss because I was your age. I love this stuff. You get to go games for free to feed you. But yeah, and then all of a sudden, I met my heroes
and I sell crap. I don't want to do this anymore. Okay, I guess that's un terrible. But you're you're you know you're a fan though even yeah, you don't feel like you're a fan. I don't need to be a fan of a specific team. I think if you just love the
sports in general, it could be a sports fan. You don't have to which I again I submit that you would not be here doing this show if of course, big of course, that I have all that, all that to be us in my back, in my head that I have to get if you and I both know neither one of us are making enough money in us for us to put the time and effort we do into this. Sure, if we didn't love sports. Sure, And you know, we talk a lot of crap, and we talk a lot of crap. People know,
we talked a lot. Had some fun conversation with my legal team talking about, oh yeah, the Delora thing, what are the varying we are the varying No, they just they you know, the question is what the hell happened in Hawaii? Oh right, And that's always going to be the case. If you have if you have you know, you have one side saying that he pleaded guilty to a sexual assault. You have another side saying he did not plead guilty and he was not convicted of a sexual assault.
You know what's going on. And then the discussion was, you know what we already said. Unless somebody unseals the record, you're never gonna know, correct, And so everybody just got to get used to it. This is how it's gonna sit. You watch enough dating lines, I DS all these channels to know that there's two sides to its story and the one that can't be told is the sealed right exactly, And so it's just gonna stay the way it is. And uh, if you're unhappy with that, then you're
unhappy with it. And there's that's you're just gonna have to suck it up and be unhappy with it. And I think a lot there's people are unhappy with the people because what did I mean, Steve, something did happen? Oh yeah, yeah, right, well you know something did happen? Question? You know the question? You know, it's it's really semantics. Well did he plead guilty to a crime or not? Right? So we'll see.
But yeah, I think it's just gonna hang out there. And you know, we had that conversation that a smart thing to do would you just come out one time, answer all the questions and then that's gonna wrap it up into a little box and put it and put it away, Yeah, without question, without question, And maybe that happens, maybe it doesn't. We'll see what happens. Okay, So if you don't talk about all that with sports being a sports fan. Blah blah blah. Uh, give us
a call. We're gonna have um um John Jonathan Perlman on the end about ten minutes or anything else going on. We started, I don't want to get into your breaking news start, uh, because there's a lot. Yeah, yeah, there there is. Well, you know, okay, I'll leave I'll leave that one out. Funny conversation too, we had about Jordan Geist when you asked him about and I am, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah right now. He said, I didn't really get anything and how
we call him how? He said, oh, that's a football and basketball thing. I thought that was a very telling comment about that, because arguably Jordan Geist is the most accomplished athlete in the Arizona athletic program. Right, well, I totally agree, right, I mean you can talk to Laney Chanelle's you know, an olympian. Um really, who who else is up there? Yeah? Individually? No? Right? Even football? Yeah,
yeah, in any other sports, you know, arguably the most. And yet you know, you hear rumors that guys like you know, uh Cresn and Tabellas and Cedric Henderson and Gordon Raemy were getting hundreds of thousands of dollars, rumors, rumors, rumors, rumors, and yet a guy like Jordan Guist, who maybe bringing as much in terms of honors to the program is just kind of like not anything. I'm going totally get it. I totally get it. So so Jason, if we're playing football, you're the center
on the quarterback, you're blocking for me. I get fifty thousand dollars, you get five. You're a little pissed, of course. Yeah, totally. We talked about that. Yeah, yeah, and that you wonder if that's gonna happen, if that's gonna kind of be a growing thing in the NIL world, you know, and then what what you know, does somebody like Jordan Guist right who he's finishing up his careers, you know, but
I just use him as an example. Let's say he's two years into it, he's let's say he's won a national championship, a bunch of pack wall championships, and he's really not getting anything, and all of a sudden, here comes Oregon, you know, says hey, you know what, come on over, our program will get you, you know, twenty five thousand dollars per semester. Yeah, who would you take that. Why do you think the girls, the girls maybe have left UCLA and other and those guys
who went to USA. Would you blame them? No, No, I'm gonna give you a raise to go from IBM to Z Rocks whatever. Yeah, I've talked. My resignation has been tendered. I'll be right there. I couldn't get out of the door fast enough at the Star when I got two weeks better job. Don't worry about it. I've done that. I mean it was like a Tuesday, and they said two weeks from Tuesday? Is it right? Right? You know? Right? I didn't even let
it go to a Friday or something. Yeah, no, of course, because you don't what They're gonna replace you, and they'll find somebody else. You know. That's just the way the world is. Right in there. No, that example, it fits it perfectly. I don't blame them, especially to the to the guys like the guys and the tennis players who have been fantastic, and you know, and and Kenzie Foller said it without saying it that Oklahoma has a stranglehold on college softball. And why is that right?
Because they've got resources to uh, you know, to pass around and and other other programs do not who knows what softball is getting if anything? Yeah, right right, so and if you you know, if you can go to and an LSU or you know in Oklahoma or Texas or somewhere where even if you're gonna get just a little bit, jay, you're gonna go. There's a reason why Kendrea got out. There's a reason why Rudio got out. Uh and coach Slope has got out way before all this. But
he probably he would not have a deal with this crap. He would not have come on, would you you? And then you have a quarterback or whomever position players saying I just hated the fact that when I was coaching high school baseball, one of our best baseball players didn't come out because he just wanted to play basketball, you know, twelve big ball, one side of the year, Like, what the hell? Well, you know, I got I got a chance. I said, you don't have a chance at
anything. Okay, you're five foot six, you're Mexican, and you can't shoot okay, which means you can't jump. Your dream crushing you, you're a dream crushing Yeah. How do I know this? Because I'm that guy. I was you you look what I'm doing. All right, let's get out of here. We're gonna come back with Jonathan Prolo, who's going to talk to us a little bit about the things going on at FC two. So you want to buy part of the club, here's your chance. So
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Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jaganzas. Then there's the music. We got Jonathan Perlan on now from FC two. Soon Jonathan, how are you hem great to talk to you and Jagan. Yeah, we've we've found you intriguing and what are you doing over there? FC two song? First of all, you've already played one or two. We've played three, actually two families in one league. Okay, how did that league
match? Good to draw on the road, very exciting game one Mond in front of a good crowd at Redlands, which is a good new team, and we were happy. I mean, obviously going on the road, it's always great to get a point or three. Um, I think we had some opportunities to win, but definitely for us early in the season going on the road and getting a tough point against actually a really big crowd there, which was great to play in front of. We're really happy with that result.
Okay, cool, So John, We're we're curious about where are you going on? What's going on with these selling pieces of the team. Yeah, I mean we've done a lot going on, so you know, basically, what we wanted to do is give people the opportunity to you know, be not just a fan and be an owner. So lots of local teams
do this and it's done been done across the world. So we're offering a you know, up ten percent of what we've done at FC two, son Um and our in our company Arizona Soccer holdings to people who want to be uh, want to be connected in that way. So I mean again, our fans, you know, are so important to us, our long time supporters, and you know, if they want to be part of that, they can check out the rays we're doing there um on start Engine UM.
So we're very excited about that. And all those details are right there on our website and on the start Engine website. So give us a quick rundown. What do investors get? Yeah, I mean so because of SEC final filings, I can't really talk too much about that kind of how that works. Everything is detailed very clearly on the on the site, but there's some some perks. There's some opportunities there. But what they do is they're again they have you known, official stake in the team, UM, which is
exciting. And again you know, fan ownership is something that uh, you know is done across the world. And you know, what we're trying to do is again strengthen our our ability to uh do business and help all the organizations and help our team be as good as it can be. So I mean, really that opportunity laid out there for our fans is uh something that we were We've been sure, we've been striving towards and uh we're excited to
offer that. You know, we we've for years we've always heard about you know the Green Bay Packers are you know, uh owned by you know, their fans and stuff like that. Is this similar to that or how was it? How was it the same and how is it different? I'm not sure exactly how the packers set it up. UM. This is UM this is a little bit different. It's structured in a way. And again what I would the best way I could say a Jay is, uh, you're
investing in the future of the team. UM. With investments like these, like any type of you know, risk you might take on a new product or on somebody that's trying to expand their business. I mean they're there's certainly uh, you know, opportunities there, but I mean I think the Packers may be different and there's a set of voting rights and they might have some decision making, but ultimately, you know, we wanted to give a chance for people to have a piece of the team and not just be you know,
just a season ticket. Over where that goes we can't say, and we're actually not allowed to say, but all the details of every fine I detailing you can imagine is available at the link that we have on our website. I'm sorry to be sounding on there and and not really being direct. It's it's kind of set up in a way where you know, we have things that we can talk about. What it is is a great opportunity.
We'd love people to check it out. Every point in detail and piece of that is laid out there and you can ask further questions on the website. But most importantly for us, we love our fans. People have asked about us doing something like this. Each each one of these within teams has done differently. I mean the Sounders can you know, can vote out there their chairman and do things like that. It's not set up that way, but um, you know, suddenly there's an opportunity to be deeperly, more deeper
involved in what we're doing NFC. Well, that's gonna say. It's just basically a chance to be a more part of the team than otherwise, you know, than like you said, than just being a season ticket holder or whatever. And listen, we're very happy to have season ticket holders. We're very happy to people that come to a couple of games a year because they
loved sports entity. Obviously, on Saturday, we're doing Teachers Appreciation Day, so we're excited about the fact that we were able to give, you know, five hundred tickets away to all various school districts across Pema County. And you know, we just want people to know how much we appreciate our teachers
and appreciate our fans, and obviously we'll look to get another win. So I was going to buy part of the team only because I want to tell you know, Jonathan, I owned part of the team, and that striker wasn't in the right position. Yeah, I think that's the big challenge when you do something like this, and obviously there there are you know, different levels of investment in this piece, but I hear that anyway, give you one to pony up down and demand justice for me. I'm very accessible.
I stand in the crowd. People do that with doing best in anyway. People yell at, yelled everything you could costly imagine me. And all I care is that three thousand people show up to yell at me everything, and if they do, I'll do my best, get pelted whatever it needs to be pelted with, to answer every question possible, and if they demand justice, I'll give it to them the best. You ever feel like a little league coach or a high school coach with that stuff and the parents are just
yelling at you all the time. Well, I think it's almost worse if they don't, because then there's no passion, there's mistaking. But it's always the balance, isn't it. I Mean, nobody wants to see ultras going and attacking their coach, jumping on the field. Nobody wants to be booed out of the stadium like that can happen if the Yankees are red Fox. But again, it's that past, it's that connection to the community, elicits
that reaction. So while you don't want to taper down, you want to control it in a way where it's uh, you know, positive and it makes you know. I want to be challenged all the time. I'm challenged by you, guys. I'm challenged by the media. I'm challenged by my own self, my own drive, challenge d But ultimately, listen, I'd rather have overly passionate fans to complain than fans that are just in different and don't show up. Yeah, apathy is the killer of death. So you
want to ask him about the women. Yes, So we saw the announcement that there's a pro women's soccer team moving into Tucson. Does that have any connection to it to you guys or what's that? What's that all about? Yeah? So for us that what that's about is Jeff Arnold and I, who both own FC two Soon, have bought a franchise for the USL Women's Super League and it's an incredible moment um. We own both FC two Son
and the WPSL fctwo Son. But this is a effort denture with of course a lot of connection that will be made later, but just to clarify that it is a New Denture. But it's one that we've been focusing towards as an ownership groups, as a team, as a partner, and there'll be other people being added to that group as well. But this moment is a key moment for Tucson where Tucson will now have a team of a women's team
and we haven't had a women's pro team for about twenty years. And you talk about the Arizona Heat Softball and I think not that many people remember that, but we're talking about a women's team that's competing at the Division one sanctioned level, and that's the intention of the league, which means that our team is playing in the most popular sport in the world at the highest level you can be sanctioned. And with Phoenix Rising having a team in the league as
well, we're going directly against the pro teams from Phoenix. We're not a
Triple A, we're not a level below. We are going against playing at the highest level and have a chance to play any team across the world that's at that same level, whether it's Chelsea women or Club America from Mexico's women's team, or you know, any of the other teams that you're that are well known with national team players in this country and be able to complete at that level and have that in Tucson is an opportunity that we think we couldn't
miss. There's one hundred and three professional men's soccer team in this country and this twelve women's team, So it's not equal. That doesn't provide enough opportunity for the number of great players, considering the number of World Cups that we've won and how great we do in the world stage. So we just see an opportunity, and we know we have a community that has incredible female sports history through the uf A, incredible female leadership throughout our government and our state,
and we just felt the time was right. Well, what's the timeline for this team? When when will we see that? That team will take off in August twenty four and they're on a what's called the international schedule al they'll run from September the way through June. There's a break in the winner because some of the markets obviously don't have our fantastic weather. But the great news for us is we can continue on. We have our fantastic preseason.
You know, we have opportunities to host friendly games and we really are just going to dig in deep to a market I think that's been sorely understood in this country and in this community. So it won't impact the FC two soon women now or moving forward. No, the best thing you can do is
support FC two some some women. We're always going to have a platform that's plea pre professional so that you know, in the clubs here, players that are from two Son that are playing college soccer can come back and represent their
city and do well. That's never going to change where we decide to play that as an ownership group, you know, may alter a bit, but there's always going to be that opportunity to both on the men's and women's side, and as we pursue men's professional we will always keep that as well.
Because what you need really to be successful in the long term is that full integrated pathway where you can start playing soccer and two son at three and finish his career playing at the highest level possible professional Lewson should that be their dream? You know, looking at I'm just sitting here thinking about all the you know, all the local well the local sports that we have, right, You've got that, You've got you guys got the Sugar Skulls, You've got
the Bowl Game, the Tucsons, Saros. You know, baseball, you know, they bring some Mexican baseball up here. Soccer seems to be you know, I growing up here, I felt like Tucson was a baseball town when it came to professional sports. But what you guys are doing with soccers really seems to be overtaking that. Partly because there's no spring training year, but you guys have seen maybe seeing that as an opportunity to kind of be
the ones leading the way out there a little bit. Yeah, we really believe, I mean, the growth of the game in this country, the growth of the women's game in this country and across the world, and you know, the weather we have in the our proximity to Mexico, the fantastic fields that have been essiting by p MC County in the city. You know, we really see that opportunity and again getting it right and getting it perfectly
right with local owners and local partners and local support. And really I think it's just so critical and I'm so lucky, and I tell you guys, among them, the media has tried to cover us and tried to tell the story the best thing can you guys ask such insightful questions, And my job is to make sure I'm telling people why this is special, why this opportunity is great for the community, what it gives back to the community. And
again, we're just We're just happy to tell the story. And we have so much more to tell on this new piece, but you know, we're really focused on right now. We'll be doing a lot of work behind the scenes for that team, but for the summer, it's supporting these fantastic athletes that we have on two so an FT two some women who are currently unbeaten, and the women get to kick off on the second and the third, and we're just we're just trying to do great summer programming that people can enjoy
for a reasonable price. So, so, Jonathan, you and I have known each other for a long long time, obviously with the kids, But did you ever imagine I don't know how old are you, about fifty forty something, I'm I'm drinking milk, Stephen, pretty good, good for you. I did do that. So when you're in your twenties, when you knew each other, did you ever imagine this getting to this point in your life. No, you know I didn't, Steve, and I'll tell you
this, and it's it's true. I'm also still going out there and coaching this year, you know, I'm back to coaching a U twelve team in the Old Club. The realities. I came here originally from law school and I ended up getting my teaching certification. I love working with kids. I love working with young people. I like inspiring them. For me, that
so that was always enough. But when opportunities knocked and I thought I had something to offer, I've always pushed myself to do as much as I possibly can for the people I care about in the community that I care about. So ultimately, it's not really personal ambition so much as my ambition for the community. I mean, certainly I want to be good at whatever I do, but I'm what I love doing is facilitating opportunities for talented people. And
there's so many talented people here in Tucson. There's so much opportunity that Tucson needs to realize of itself. I think it's not even operating at the full capacity of the kind of city that it can be without having growth. It's un control and making it like Phoenix which we're so different from. But I think there's a place for this sports team. I think there's a place for pro soccer. I think we have to do it thoughtfully with people in the
community. And again I'm a huge it can be in conjunction with these other great sports properties like the Sugar Salls, like the U of A, and in complimentary moments, it's us elevating each other and promoting each other, and
that's what we intend to do. Yeah, okay, nice Nice. Next is running for office, Like I say, incredibly well said, you gotta you know, you know, get yourself a stadium and yeah, you know, oh yeah, listen, these these things are all in process and for us, the announcement was critical for the league, but you know, for FC Tucson in this new Super League property, we were very much focused on what we're doing, you know, micro with the team here, making sure
that's excellent. But you know, the announcement came down, I wanted to make sure I was available to everybody. But yeah, all that stuff is in processing. You're gonna start, We're gonna reach out again as we get into August and September. S we sort through these things so we can tell people, who's going to be on the team, where, what's it called? Where we're gonna play, because those are the questions that are reasonable. But all those things are being worked on. But when the league is making
the watershed announcement likeness like the USL did, obviously we want. But we're planning thoughtfully and carefully, and there's so much more to come. And h I'm always happy to get on the radio here at fourteen fifteen and tell you guys about it. Great and Okay, thanks so much, John, thank you, Jonathan. All. I hope to see everybody out there's on Saturday after the teacher sad O can't tell me time by time again? Sick more
time gates eleven thirty this Saturday. So looking forward to fantastic. Okay, thank you, Jonathan, appreciate you. Jonathan Perlman noting for a long time I didn't know he's going to law school. Smart dude. Smart dude can tell you, smart dude. Yeah, and some lawyers aren't smart dude because he's a smart dude, right, And it doesn't act like he's the smartest one in the room. Right. That's that's that's the cool thing. Yeah, A humble guy loves coming on herselves. Yeah, I was talking about
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you know, it's funny like yesterday and we walked out. It was like because that when you walk out from coal to Hotti, you get those tingles. Yeah, it's really weird. But then you get by the time you get to your car, your sweating and saying all you're shiny and stuff, and we're saying, what the heck is going on exactly? Hey, if you don't want to call, please do. If you want to call, you do five two oh foe seventy four forty. We promise we'll keep
an eye on the call. We haven't heard from Howard, so I think we're who knows. I don't think Howard's doing well. No, he might not be. He probably changed the subject on us anyway, Yeah, or Nico, who knows Nico couldn't be in the desert. Nico takes it easy, you know, he just be just went and got a little, you know, a little lettuce and took it out into the desert and he was fine. He's chill, He's chill, Okay. I don't worry about Nico
like that. I do worry about Howard sometimes you just wonder what what makes him tick and or what we'll make his tick or stop, you know, and losing like the way the the Suns did. So I don't know, just weird stuff. But you know, a lot a lot of discussion about where these coaches are gonna go because four good coaches got fired. Yeah, so you know, there's a bunch of teams that don't have coaches as good
as the four they got fired. So you wonder, you know, where are they just gonna gonna you know, you know, just kind of shuffle them around and are they gonna be coaching it? Sure, it's just places and change your address, change your address. That's how it is. And I'll breaking news about the locals that maybe possibly going to another school or to another program. Yeah, so that's interesting. Um, just a lot of a lot of things going on all right, so we were talking about the
game time. What's your take on the game, Jason, because you're a resident expert in the room. Yeah, honest, I'm not to be sure about this one. I know the heat has has some time off, so they might come out a little bit rusty versus the Celtics just came off in Game seven, right, So I think the Celtics probably win Game one because
it's in Boston. It's a you know, more game ready. I feel like then the heat and I like the heat well, you know, want to kind of feel it out, see how Boston is playing seat there no intensity level and kind of just feel it out. So I think I think Boston takes Game one. But the don't you think at this time of the year, though, that the rest that the heat have gotten is better than not having the rest and as you say, you know, being rest.
Wait wait, wait, we've had this When you said that, I was gonna bring this discussion up because we've talked about it just depends to me, rust doesn't. It's a term we're using. It's like moments, not because this is what they do for a living. You're good at your night right, two day rest, one day it doesn't really because it's right, but I think you know, the feel of the game, the pay is like it's what they do, but like practicing and like actual game, you know,
speed and everything is different. Right, So I think they're gonna be ready for the game obviously. But what you said, and I think this is why I went the way I did. Yeah, Boston's at home, right, that's why they should That's a big deal. That's in the NBA. That's a huge deal. Right, Denver hasn't lost at home all all see Yeah, play playoffs, Ye, I don't think this has happened.
Lakers have. I think they haven't, so Okay, so there's a rub, right, So if they go seven, you'd go with Denver realistically, but one of them is gonna lose, Yeah, I think at least. Yeah. Um and and I we don't know enough about heat, do we. You know, Boston's pretty darn good, right, I think they eat it pretty good. But but they've been fantastic in Milwaukee. But they always go on this role at this time of year. Yeah, and then forget
about December, January or last time. This is the time they play. Yeah, I mean they plug you know, they've looked great in the past couple of years in the playoffs. Um, they've not got over the hump. You know, I'm winning the finals, but they've they've got there. So dude, okay, so let me give you this, and we're not look at the calls, uh five best players in the five best players in the league right now maybe the players Butlers could be top three. Yeah,
he's definitely top three. I would say that right now. Who's one who's doing I think I think Butler. I think Butler is playing bad than Jason Tatum right now on the playoff. Oh Davis see him? Yeah, okay, where is Lebron fitting this smith? Lebron's you know, maybe five six yeah, five six probably yeah, because Murray's done good too, I would say, yo, kid, um, Anthony Davis, Butler, Jason Tatum. So yeah, yeah, I mean I think Lebron is, you know,
kind of in the distance. Yeah, he's still doing what he what he does. Yeah yeah, and you know what, he's thirty eight years old. I mean he's doing what he and he's he's gonna go off for one of these games. Yeah, so he'll say I'm thirty eight, but watch me. Yeah, yeah, I still think and I think I said this to somebody last thing, the keyta Lakers is gonna be Davis. Oh yeah, for sure, Lebron can do this. But if Davis doesn't,
and he had a forty, he had a great game. I think if the small guard lineup they had in the first half was really what lost in the game. They just started off way too slow and then the Nuggets went up you know, twenty or thirty points whatever was in the first half. The Lakers were just fighting back the entire game, so they never caught up. You never caught up. So I think they'll make the ad judgment like they did in the second half, and they'll be much better. I used
to like your Lakers. Yeah, yeah, you don't like them anymore. The Lakers. No. I love my Denver. I love the Denver. Yeah, I think both fan bases. No, I feel pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, And like you said, if they hadn't lost at home yet, well that tells you how tough they are, right exactly. So. Yeah, so you know, the Heat are plus four hundred to win the series. That's a good number, that's a that's a fair price. It's a good price. I think if you bet if I were you,
I want to give you the twenty so you have some series. I don't know. I just have Boston, uh tonight in a party. But but I think Boston's a better team. So I so I bet Denver to win it all a long time ago. And I think realistically, if Milwaukee was is not there and they're not, Boston would be the next team up after those two. I couldn't tell you after that, right, Okay, it doesn't make sense. The interesting thing is that any anyway, any of these
four teams can win it. Yeah, because you know, I mean, while while while the Nuggets have been really good, they're not unbeatable by these by these the Lakers can beat him, that Heat can beat him. The Celtics can honestly beat him. Yeah. What what I think? And that you were playing the the one of the clips from this morning? Yeah, I think what or maybe I saw this today on TV? What people are finding out because no one watches Denver, right, no one watches, not
until now? And what people can say that guy can play yeah, when everybody else knew that guy could play. Yeah. I think today it was the first time I've ever heard on like any national media that jokers got actually like the recognition he deserves and he was called the best pay on the planet. Was the first time I've ever heard ever, like today on TV and he's MVP on MVP and like, how you really get recognition for it? How somebody, Yes, somebody, somebody recognizes it. Right. I think
you're right. Like fans in general, you know, when they think about the best players in the league, they think of Lebron, they think of they think of Steph. Yeah, they think because they see the vind because they see them. I'll give you a perfect point of how we deal with it. And during the NCAA tournament, we watched the Dukes, we watched the Houston's, we watched the kansass we never watched n fa U, Right, we never watched it. Who are they? Right? And then they
show up and kick your ass? And you wonder who are these and they've been going thirty four and three all year? Yeah? And he said, oh, oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, So whose fault is that? That's the person not watching right? Right? Yeah, I think it's you know, den veris in the big you know New York, right, Boston, La Market, So you know they don't get like the media
visibility. Yeah that you know, some of those other markets get, but I feel like as experts who covered the support, they should you know, be familiar with like every all the stars at least on all the teams. And one of the things when I when she went with Denver is because Murray has been hurt the last two or three years. So everyone's saying, oh, they're just gonna do the be the Buffalo Bills and fall apart at some point. Right, Well, there's the guard that who has been around.
Now he's around, yeah, and he's pretty darn good. Yeah, when he's healthy, he's one of the best guards in the league, one of the best players in the league, honestly, and he's showing that right now. So so it's not just a one guy punch. No, it's a one two punch with Porter coming out though playing well. Yeah. And then who's the guy who's the double name guy? Uh, they played really well last night. Um, I think he might have been with Sons. He
had twenty one points, twenty two points. Name not coming to my head right now. Okay, so that guy, Yeah, I don't have that guy. So but all those pieces don't. Yeah, I know the nuggets that up like everyone could played well honestly likes to have to get that has to happen. Like they were making like crazy shots like shot. I'm like they were making everything mry like so, I mean everyone played well. They look like Princeton. You know what. We don't need any more of those
chiefs from Okay, we really don't. I wanted to see your face. Yeah, well there's your finger too. You know. It's funny, Steve, because we sit here every day and I see the dig coming and then I still get I still get hit by it. I see it coming and and it's still like it still gets there. Right, I can't get the gloves up in time. It's all right, Okay, A lot of good a lot of a lot of things happened. I can't wait to get to breaking a lot a lot of good breaking news stuff. If PJA starts tomorrow,
I'm excited about that. You know, I love I love the Majors. Um PJ is sort of the I don't pay attention to go ahead. It's sort of always been the step child of the Majors, right like the fourth one. But you know they've moved it up. You know it used to be played in uh In in August, and it was the last one now you know, to put it to get a major in each month, you know, from April, May, June, and July. It's now
played. You know, it's it's it's coming up this week and it's you know, it's a major where a lot of guys who get their first major at this time. Jason Day who won last week for the first time in like several years, you know, um doubts his only major. Uh, you know, it's kind of like a place to get your first one. And so it's gonna be at Oak Hills and in Rochester. I love the majors, I really do, and I pay attention to these. So I'll be talking a little with you guys next. So well, how I rudely
interrupted you. I want to ask about to live Is that kind of is that kind of falling to the It's still something something going on with there because they didn't they lost some publicity. That's where you can a bunch of weird
stuff. You know, they got on the CW and like they got some bad publicity because uh, they were getting to the end of a tournament and they cut them off so they could put the Flintstones on or whatever is the you know whatever is on the CW programming um and and actually, uh that tournament when it went to a playoff and nobody got to see it, isn't that Remember how they have the football game, the game, the Hidie game
years ago, So those there's some of that. There's still a lot of friction between the between the two tours, although the the live guys can play in the PGA, so they're you know, some of those guys are in the Brooks Keptuf, Phil Nicholson, those guys are Dustin Johnson, are all in the PGA. You know. It was funny, it's kind of anticlimactic when all those guys played in the Masters. People the people were thinking, oh, they're gonna be at each other, you know, they weren't.
No, Yeah, they're they're friends and they know some guys disagree with the fact that these guys all went to the live tour, of course, but in the end they're gonna get out. It's a gentleman's game. They're gonna play and nobody's gonna give each other any crap. And and so I think that's kind of settled a little bit. There's a lot of different things. There was there was some rumblings for a while that Greg Norman was gonna get
get the boot. They started talking about doing a woman's live tour. That's conversation is out there. There are guys who are leaving the Live Tour because they're getting kicked off, you know, because they're not performing performing. Um, well, the DP Tour, which is basically the overseas tour, the uh it's not just Europe, it's you know, it's it's overseas. They've
they've gone steadfast. And they're saying, if you want to be in the DP, in the in the live tour, you owe underco because of your contract with the DP Tour, you owe us hundreds of thousands of dollars. And they're saying, I'm not paying, and so they're not they're not getting to play. Stuff like that. There's just still a lot of friction like that. But you know, uh, brooks Kep guy I think I saw is the is the third favorite, just behind behind Scotti, Scheffler and and
uh and Ron wrong. Wrong. So the guy I was talking about is called Will Pope. Oh okay, he's by the Lakers. Yeah, Well he used to be with we used to be. Now he's with. He had a good game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know too, So it should be fun at least I think we should be fun. Yeah. Um, it's what it's what keeps us interesting because we don't want to do in the regular season. We don't and and you know, and I feel like I should, but I mean it's as far as we can catch.
Well, I think did you see that kur Kur talked about that the punch and it was very obviously, very obviously how they didn't get along. They played, they played, but they didn't get along, and how that kind of was the key to the whole season. Well, well, Draymond Green came out and said that, he said that he thought that they lost, that they got eliminated at this time. It dated all the way back
to that and what the hell did you do it? Well? Because he is who he is and and and pull pissed him off, I mean, pull us a little punkish, you know, how do you how do you get through that? That'll be interesting to see how the Warriors changed things up. I mean, they won a championship just last year. But it's funny how things have changed so quickly. And then you know, maybe you gotta you gotta get rid of a couple of guys, you know, discussion about
James Harden. You know, people saying, okay, you gotta fired, you fired the coach. You know, well you gotta get rid of James Harden too. So worries James Harden go back to Houston. Yeah, okay, first hour almost complete. So we're gonna have some breaking news by you, Jason, yep, and I'll probably all of us. We have a little get some little things. And thanks to John Promer for joining us and telling us how we can buy part of them. Yeah, well we have
to go do some research. Well don't we always. We have to invest money, I know, do our work for us. All right, let's let's take our break. We'll come back. Jason will be on with breaking news.