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Steve Rivera and Jacin Salles. They have their eye on the ball on Tucson Sports Day yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to whining the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay. Now we have Henry with breaking news. This is I on the ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right, So the first story I'm gonna talk about is everyan's been talking about Caitlin Clark's WNBA twenty points, but

she had ten turnovers fever loss I think around fifteen. Yeah. Not a good double double. No, no, not a good at the double double. You're looking fun, but I think I think there was criticism that you would come in it would be totally different, right, right. Were you nervous your first skate day here doing this? Yes? Partly the second day two, Yes, it's just what it is. I'm still nervous, Steve, because I never know what you're gonna do. Good point good, But

you know, Henry saved for you. Probably. Come on, who knocks out of the park day one? Well, some people do, but I remember Elie de la Cruz did it against the Dodger. Okay, there's that. There's that, but you know how many times does this happen? And no, she'll fit in fine, it should be fine. And you know

she's a good player. She can play the game, sure, you know, and and you know, and she's gonna have a she's gonna have a worker off for because you know, there's there's there's a target, right exactly, the perfect perfect way to put that. There's gonna be people out there who are gonna do their everything they can to to try and make her look bad, not because they don't like her or whatever, just saying, Okay, she's a challenge and I'm gonna I'm gonna try and be better than her.

An there's nothing wrong with don't they pros trying to win the game. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Now, if you're doing it in a way that's dirty or whatever, yeah, then I got a problem with it. But if you're out there saying I'm competing with her and I'm gonna, you know, I want to do my thing, that's what sports are supposed to be, no question, yeah, question, all right. Next breaking news, we got the Nixon Nuggets both took three two series leads and Jokichen

Brunson both at forty points. Did you put your shovel away on the Denver team? Did you put them away? No, you can still have it because Denver three in a row. Everyone had them for dead after doing on two Denver, Denver still Denver. I mean they've gone and won the three games. And you know, I, I guess I didn't pay enough attention to it or care enough that. You know, I thought, Okay,

if Denver loses, then it's Minnesota and fine. But you know when you, I mean you, when you lose the first two games in the seven

games series at your place, you know that's stacked against you. But if you're really damn good, I mean again, you think back to that time when the when the first round was a five game series and the Sons were the number one seed and they lost the first two games at their place, and they just said we're gonna win the next three, and then they did, right, guarantee, you said, we're gonna win the next one, and then we're gonna come back and win the next one after that, and

then we're gonna win the next one after that. So that's what you do, all right. I know Jay will like this as a Dodgers and Astros pitcher Ronel Blanco suspended ten games for four and so on his hands. Shocking, shocking and Astro is cheating shit, Steve, I'm shocked, I'm shocked, in appalled. Get get Romero Francisco on the phone. I'm shocked. In a pall there? Did you say? There was along the lines there was a video of Josel Twove striking out on three pitches and he looked lost,

just lost. It was like there was a pitch, it was up and in, he swung at it. There's a pitch a foot outside. He swung at that and then he his knees buckled on the curveball right down the middle of the plate. Yeah. And the comment of that was it's a little tougher when you don't know what pitches are coming. Yeah. And that's always gonna be with him. He always will be the kid, the kid rookie of you're not sure for the Diamondbacks, Carol Corbyn Carroll. He's

having a horrible year. He's always I haven't paid attention man one. And he too looks a little kind of flustered because he's not doing well. Yeah. Yeah, the the umpire said it was the sickiest stuff he's alt on a glove since they started doing the checks. How did you think he was

gonna get away with that? But it goes it goes to remember we were talking about that at University of Georgia Pitcher who went into the corner of the bullpen, you know, away from the camera, and he's doing something to do with glove, Like, dude, you're on video doing this, what are you doing? But I didn't suspend him. Did I know that the other team protested it, but I don't know if what the results were. And then Arizona named Ben Lores as their swimming coach and he was then coach

for the past eight years. Right, he was named the WAC swimming coach for the last four years. Yeah, for four consecutive years they've won the conference championship. He's coach of the year four straight years. He was the women's coach of the year back in twenty twenty one. The women's program has been They had fifteen all conference performers this last season. So he's he's kind

of the top of the line coach. Take the seams out on this part of the country and it looks like desiree has reached into her past, yes to bring somebody right, right, So so there, uh, there you go. He's uh coach Lures l o O r Z Lures. So we'll see, you know, we'll see what that looks like. You know,

swimming is a big deal here, always has been. Not they haven't been as good over the last several years as that you know they've historically been, but you know it's important to this university to have a good swimming program. So congratulations to Ben Lures. And then last thing I got was Doug Gottlieb named the Green Bay head coach and he said that he'll still be doing his radio Phil's Coach, which which that was the weird thing because he followed he

precedes us, right because right, yeah before us. So you don't find that to be a conflict of interest somehow or just somehow. There was a conversation about it. He was on Dan Patrick show this okay, and they're saying he's like, aren't there some some things that you can't talk about, like recruiting and stuff? He says, I never talked about recruiting, so it's nothing lost on my show. I don't talk about specific players but yeah, I don't know, I don't know. It seems yeah, because what

if he's having a crappy ear, are you going to criticize you? Are you criticize yourself for you know, what are you gonna do? I think that kind of ties into JJ Reddy got the Lakers job because he obviously has a podcast, but he continued that he's got probably not you think he wouldn't, but you wouldn't think that here. Yeah, here's here's the thing. If if i'm if I'm a University of Green Bay fan, and you know, I'm going, well, wait a minute, do you want to coach

his team or not? Okay, when you're on the radio, shouldn't you be out recruiting or good point, you know, doing some stuff to make yourself a better coach? What look you and I don't put a lot of after could you tell me? Could job by today's show? A lot of effort into preparing for today's show. But when you're a national guy like him, you've got to know your stuff way way more than we do. We just know the local stuff, and that's fine. This is what we do.

Yeah, that's why because we know it and we're around it. But you're you're a national talk show host. You have to know things. You have to be paying attention to things that are going on. They've got to be able to talk about the NBA and the NHL in college football and college basketball. And how are you going to be a college basketball coach and do that? I don't know how that's gonna Here's the biggest issue I have with this. Okay, So, Henry, what's your degree? What are you

getting a degree in journalism? Okay? Journalism? Just just journalism, right, Okay, so you're doing this now, how would you like for somebody who who uh a former athlete JJ Reddick to come in who doesn't know journalism, he has been a probost and he comes in and takes this job. Kenn does it. He's a podcast because if he's famous, right, and he's got no journalism background, which is a problem for today's journal right, they don't have any background journalism right? What to say, what not to

say, what sources to use, what not to use? No, it's these guys taking the jobs that you want trained for, are being trained for. That's who I would be up. Our guy at Channel four Channel four, Uh Matt uh uh Reynoldson. So he's going to school, got his degree, he's twenty, young guy. He doesn't have a job now probably it's no fault of his own, obviously, but now you have athletes taking people's jobs who have no no background in it, you know, And then

Doug that would be the problem. And do something like Doug gop Lead who hasn't been a coach, And how would you feel if you're a coach, right, if you're the if you're one of the assistants at Green Bay? Right? And I said, wait a minute, you're gonna get a radio talk show host because he's famous. No, And you know basketball, and you see it all the time. And it's not like he went to Wisconsin

Green Bay. He went to Oklahoma State. Well you see that in in uh in in broadcasts where this guy is pretty knowledgeable, he speaks it. Well, whyn't you be our GM. It happens. It happens in football, it's happened in baseball, I think, yeah, basketball as well. So you know, George, it's tough. That's the some guy who doesn't do this is taking my job, who doesn't know how to do my job.

Yeah, no, I hear you. I hear you. And then again, if you're you know, if you're a guy who's been trying to get an NBA coaching job, and JJ Reddick is you know, a serious candidate for the Lakers job, You're like, what the hell? If you're Joseph Blair, right, what have I been doing right to prepare for my head coaching job? I should have been ahead of I should have had a podcast. Yeah, I mean he should be in the line behind me in the fair world. In a fair world would be one of my I did

you have the issue guy? Oh? Yeah, I was gonna talk about the new ad D you got, I give you the name. Yeah, I was just gonna talk about the go ahead. Former Arizona State receiver Elijah Bacher gonna announce his commitment on Friday, and he's down to Arizona, Florida or Washington. Somebody, somebody fish? Did you have the dead fish triangle better than his? From you? Exactly? You fish in that Park'd be interesting to see what he decides to do. Okay, So issue su they're

speaking of, you know, waiting your turning line? Right, is expected to hire gram Rose Sceni. He's the he's the former Uh Executive Senior Associate a d at a s U, their chief business officer. He's expected to be the next a d at a s U. So, Jay, you've been making cakes for the last nine months, making pretty good cakes, uh, and doing well in the old kitchen. And they finally decided Jacob cook

for what pretty good cook? And they finally after all these months hire since November, since who was in your backyard all this cooking and now you're where was it? I would say, then, wonder like, did you just not find anybody better and so you circled back to me or what or didn't give a crap? And I'll just say, Okay, you got it. But I'm we're talking six months later. Well that kind of shows and I

was talking to some people in Phoenix. He just doesn't what's his name, crow doesn't care, but it sure appears way, I guess, you know, yeah, I mean, because he certainly wasn't paying attention to what the hell is going on in the program for a long time football program, at least for a long time. You know, Ray Anderson just run wild with his stuff. Well I don't know, but you're right, I mean, if you if the guy was there all this time, Why didn't he get

the job months ago? Make him but make him the interim and see how he does and then give him the job. Makes no sense, but it's not my issue. Uh. And lastly, maybe not lastly, we have three minutes. Bob Bafford his horse, his main horse, Moth is no longer in the Preakness. Why and he developed the fever in his trip to bolt to to to the race to Kindness and now he's they're not gonna run him. So he still doesn't know the horses. If he yeah, if

he can, he should get better by next week. But he's not going to run Saturday. So that was my horse. That changes everything, changes everything. Yeah, So now is the Dan, that guy the winner of the he's the favorite? Whatever? Yeah, you don't even know the Derby favorite. That guy, that guy is not the Favorite's listening to us right now. She's very disappointed. We talked this morning and miss Dan, mister Dan, there we go, got it. I pulled it. So what's

the guys in the in the in the Lieutenant Dan for Lieutenant Dan. I think I need to be too much Doctor Pepper. Yeah, that guy, Mystic Dan. So he's a favorite. Now. But Baffert does have another horse which is going to be pretty good, but he's not not a favorite. No, Okay, I'm glad you told me that, because I would have been on the dang horse he would have. Sorry, you can't bet on it. He doesn't exist this for all. Right, Well that's interesting,

okay, okay? Anything else? That was it? Right? Anything of a softball left this morning? Softball? Yeah, there, they open on Friday. I thought they were playing on Thursday, so I didn't know if we were trying to get Caitlin Low and uh, she wasn't available. But I thought they were gonna leave yesterday, so I kind of lost all about that. But I leave today. They play on Friday at three o'clock

two sometime. ESPN Plus well as what they'll be on. So if you want to che that, if you don't have the ESPN Plus subscription, you need to get it because that's where you're gonna see all the Big twelve stuff, the the non revenue sports, whatever you want to call them, and that's where you're gonna find them. What you see on the packed off networks, baseball, softball, you know, the other the other sports, and then probably some of the you know basketball games, I'm there on ESPN.

Plus you got to get that another in the non fair department. I wasn't wanted to talk about this real quick. Tom Brady, do you see the Tom Brady roast? But some pieces of it. It's very funny, very funny. He's very good. Here's another guy who's gonna make three hundred seventy five million and went straight to the front of the line. Yeah, he was born on the under the wrong sign, right for sure? Right, so another thing. Yeah, didn't study this, but Al's doing this.

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fourteen fifty streaming live. I'm the iHeart Radio wap Hey, welcome back to Eye on the Ball here at Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve. He's Jay. Now we have Jason Barr home keegun night. Hello a j Good Stephen, J. How are you We're doing well? You busy? Uh the time? This time of year, probably get not so busy. But how are you today or this week? Yeah, still a little bit.

I mean, certainly, you know, the the u of a season has a lot to do with it in the high school season and the college season, so we do more community features and things like that this time of year. So staying busy, But I usually take off a couple of weeks in June because it's a slow time and certainly to get out a Tucson with the weather we have it in June, and so so yeah, different type of thing. Yeah, Okay, so we talked. We're talking off air.

You know, we've been talking over the last week or so. You know, we're getting to the end of all the seasons. Right Baseball is the last last sport for the or the academic school of for Arizona. When they finish up, they're all done of. Softball is into the into the national tournament. Golf is playing in the national tournament. Man's golf, women's golf has done so rating the rating all the Arizona sports as a whole for this academic year on a scale of one to ten. So tell us give us

an idea where are you? Where are you on that? Then? We'll tell you where Steve and I have kind of landed on that we kind of landed in the same place. Okay, well, yeah, interesting to hear what you guys have to say. I would say, because it's not finished yet, I think I can go seven or eight, okay, because and then how baseball and softball and maybe track and field still going. How they do can maybe move the needle one way or the other, but they think

highlight the highlight certainly is the football team. And you know you have a football going from the worst team in the country to top ten and winning the ALIMA ball finishing with season eleventh. I think that's the highlight. You know, basketball, Yeah, you know you wanted to That draw opened up for them, guys, Stephen j. You know that draw opened up for them to go to the final four. So by going to the Sweet sixteen, it's great they got back there, but you wanted to see them be Clemson

in Alabama and get to the final four. So that's why I'm kind of like a seven or in eight, And I want to see how how baseball, which could win the Pac twelve regular season title with one win over Oregon State this weekend, and how softball do, and I think that'll meet will be one way or the other. What do you guys have? Well, we I first threw out like a seven point eight, I think a seven

point nine, and then like that's where I was about. And then the following Monday, Arizona Tennis had won the Pac twelve tournament for the first time, and ever, uh, you know, you could tell you your baseball was doing really well. Softball looked like they were gonna get into the regions. So we kind of both bumped it up to like eight point one, just a little over eight, you know, and likes you said, wait, you know, let's see what happened with baseball. Let's see what happens

with men's golf was in the national tournament. Now, wait, let's see what Let's see what softball does. And you can maybe get to an eight and a half if one of them does something. If let's say let's say the two let's say baseball and softball both get to the College World Series, right, maybe you go to like an eight and a half, uh something like that. And and I don't know what mine was about eight eight point one, like you guys, But Jason, how how many years have you

been here. I'm my thirteenth year. Thirteenth year, okay, so in that time and I just want to get a gage. Do you know, wouldn't you say that overall this is one of the better years in your time here because because of football, because because of football, right, and basketball went to the Elite eight twice, But that was about it in fourte Well, in twelve they won a few months after I got here, they won the College World Series. In fourteen was the other ten win season. That

football team was almost as good as this past one. But also in fourteen, that was Sean Miller's best team. That was the team that had TJ, Aaron Gordon, and Ron Day. And that team, if Brandon Ashley hadn't gotten hurt, may have gone to the Final four because remember they lost to the Elite eight. Nick Johnson didn't get the shot off at the end of the game. So that was an Elite eight basketball team that was twenty

and ohero in the thirteen fourteen Uh. But you know what, it's also how you kind of put the seasons together, because I guess you could say that basketball team maybe the thirteen fourteen team was before the fourteen football season. So I guess that would be different seasons. So you know, if you put it that way, you would say, well, the twenty fourteen football

team would be mixed in with the twenty fourteen fifteen basketball season. That team also made it to the Elite eate that they got spoked by Wisconsin when where nobody could guard Frank Covinski and Dester under than Ronde, and Miller couldn't put Ronde on both players. So you know that that that that you would rival. But I think you got a good point, Stephen J. I think this one is definitely uh, this one definitely could be could be up there.

But you also don't have a national championship, and right, you know, you do have women's golf win a national championship I think at eighteen, yet baseball win one and twelve, and so you do want to see a national championship to really cement it though as the best right, I agree? Yeah, for football winning the Alema Bawl and going and going, you know, running through the pack twelve schedule with seven wins at the end the season, that's up there. Yeah, And a lot of times when you think

about a season like that, you know, in an academic year. You know, football sort of frames a lot of it. If it's a bad football season, it's kind of clouds the whole rest of the year, even if basketball is really good, because you think, I mean, it was just dark here for those years that Kevin someone was here and even into the end of jed Furt Fish it was just darker. Right, there were clouds over us all the time. You didn't know if you could ever get out

of it, right, Well, that was the thing was scary. How long was it going to take to get out of that? Yeah, for sure. I mean you know they what do they have a twenty game losing streak? Yeah, it going from bad to worse. Yeah, and then you know it's always what do they say, It's always darkest before dawn,

and darkest was seventy to seven. But I'll tell you what if they didn't if cal in twenty twenty one, yeah, Cow didn't come here with half the team missing because of COVID, it might have gone and listen to twenty twenty one too. Totally agree with you. Yeah, but you also maybe factor in the controversy of the Heiky situation, the money situation, the president, all that and the big twelve movement, right, it was just a great news year of well, there are a lot of news for sure,

all year long. I'm sure you weren't bored. No, it was very eventful. You know, we've had some other eventful situations, obviously the cloud that was hanging over the basketball team. Yeah, but definitely you know you have got a athletic director change, in a football coaching change, and most of all a conference change. Right. Yeah. So so it's, uh,

you know there's always something, always something happens. Well, let's go to that because you know we're wrapping up the again, wrapping up the academic year. Arizona's last PAC twelve baseball series is this weekend and then that's gone. Yes, they have the pack off tournament that's going to be up up in Phoenix. But you know, this is it. I mean this the PAC twelve is over in a couple of weeks. Kind of where are you

on that? Your thoughts on that? I mean, I who grew up here and I was, you know, celebrated when I when I found out Arizona was going into the PAC ten at the time and thinking we're going to get to a Rose Bull someday. I'm really it's starting to sting again, right, I'd kind of forgotten about it a little bit going through the basketball season and football stuff, But now now that it's coming to an end,

it's kind of like at the forefront again. I'm feeling kind of a little nostalgic about the fact that it's going to end here in a couple of weeks. I think it's okay if something doesn't feel right. I think the last Pack twelve game on Arizona's campus is Saturday baseball against Morgan State. You know, let me know if I'm mistaken, if a caller, if I'm not right, you're right, you're correct, last official Pac twelve sporting event here.

But it's okay to feel nostalgic. It's okay if it doesn't feel right. You know. My thought is, I'm wondering if this doesn't get all get shaken up again. Right. You know, we haven't really felt the effects of the travel. Yeah, you know, you think about UCLA and going to Rutgers in Maryland and and and all that type of stuff. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if down the road there isn't another West Coast conference.

Yeah. I don't know how it's gonna happen and what's going to take place, And obviously this is all driven by you know what, and that's money. But you know, I'm glad Arizona doesn't have as big a travel burden as as some of the other schools might have, you know, with all this conference shake up. Yeah, I think you of ak is coming out okay on this ye are It's it's Oregon State and Washington State that have

a little bit more uncertainty. And I think you have a's coming out okay on this were a big twelve and you know, some of the teams you're still going to be in the same conference and others are in Texas and not that far away, no question, and a better chance of winning a conference

title than playing in the Pac twelve. Yeah, the leaders are going to see the new rivalries, you know with Kansas basketball and Iowa State had a good year, and obviously Houston's been just a monster in basketball, right, so you know we have some we have some good basketball matchups and and football. Yeah. You know, let me throw you guys a question here, how do you think football is going to do this year? You last,

he doesn't mind last couple of times that football has won ten games. The last ten times they won ten games of the year, they were five hundred. Next year, trend us with the number. Now, I believe me, Jason, you know, having been here for all of those, right, having been here for the ninety you know, the ninety four season, the ninety nine season, the twenty fifteen season. It they they don't sustain it, and they had they never have even the you know, the the

eighty the eighty six season, Larry Smith. Last year they went nine and three, won you know, won the Holiday Bowl, the Rulis Bowl at the Rulis Bull but not the the Alohabble, you know. Larry Smith left

and then they went four, four and three the next year. So that's but in every one of those years, I thought there's another great year coming up, right, everybody was back, They had all the guys back, and and so I don't know, I'd like to think that, you know, that they can kind of keep this ball rolling because they kept their players. But no matter what anybody says, it's a new coach, and when it comes to game day and it's different from last year and different what these

guys have been used to. There's some adjustments gonna take place. They're gonna lose a game that they shouldn't lose. I feel that, and so I'd like to think that they can contend for the Big twelve. But I don't think we know. I don't think we know. Yeah, A little concerned at seeing how much bandage is on Ted roll of mcdillan's foot. I don't know if we're all in the spring game, but that looks like some type of serious foot injury. Now he's supposed to be back for the season and

they're being secretive, but I'll tell you what. They did lose some players, They've got a new coaching staff. I think they're gonna win eight games. You know, let me readjust that down the road. But I'm gonna get I'm gonna throw this at you guys. I think that Brent Brennan needs to prove that he's a big time football coach. He was twenty four and thirty eight in San Jose State pretty much only one good year. He was zeroing three of the bowl games and blowing halftime leads in those ball games.

Yeah, I think he is the nicest guy in the world. I know why everybody loves him. He's awesome to be around. I can see why the players love him. Brent Brennan seems like just the greatest dude there is. But I think he has to prove he's a big time football coach. No, I hear you, Well, let me tell you Jason full disclosion. I think I can tell Jason because he just went with that when I saw him at the hospital. You remember this, Jason covering a news news

item. He said the same thing. He was a little concerned about his background and that he did a good job with the research. And I don't know, I don't disagree with his with there now you can't, so so we'll see. We'll see. I think it's a legitimate concern. No, it's certainly something that you know. I mean, it's on my mind that I mean, look Santele stays a tough you know, a tough place to coach, So any amount of success there is is pretty good. Use.

You've did the same thing about Arizona though a few years ago. I mean, right, you know you could have. You could say that about a lot of schools. Yeah, coaches turn them around. Yeah, so you give the guys the keys to the car, you know, the bigger car, the better car, and you see, okay, can you handle the car? And that that's how Yeah, you're you're one hundred percent correct. We don't know, and that's what I'm saying. You know, the you

know, fall practice might start. You get into a game, and how do they run a game? You know, do these guys get it? Is there confusion? Is there chaos on the sidelines? You know, what kinds of things are going on? Or does he have a good system put together with good coaches? Now, I like the fact that I love his coordinators, two guys who've been around a long time and been you know, been around Arizona for a long time, in uh In Dino and duynea Quina.

So you know, I don't know. We'll we'll find out. I think we're going to find out pretty early when they go to play Kansas State in that non conference game their game of the season. Yeah, it's a conference opponent at a non conference game because the game was scheduled before this whole situation. And also, just to clarify, when you said you saw me

at the hospital, we're okay. We were there for Arizona basketball in Arizona Basketball event in which some of the players were with kids who had cancer, a really nice event by Arizona Basketball. Yeah, so I just want to make sure the viewers, no work, you weren't in the hospital yourself. Good clarification, because no one ever thinks I'm okay. Yeah, I understand that. Lastly, because we have a minute or so your program, you

guys do it differently at Channel nine. You're more about the story than the news, which is good because I can't remember the story you did a while back. I thought that was a pretty good job because you're more of a storyteller. Now. Yeah, thanks so much. I'm glad you noticed that. That means a lot, so I would appreciate that. You know, basically our business the sports guy on the news that has been disrupted, you

know, to get to get real, honest and frank with you. You know, twenty thirty years ago people got their sports news from the guy on the news, right, but do you really need to anymore? We can get something happens, we can hear it with you guys on the radio, we can get it off of Twitter, and we've got instant information everywhere. So if I go up there at six o'clock and I'm just regurgitating news that everybody knows already. You know, I don't know how much value that I'm

providing anymore. So what the station had me do is just you know about you know, a couple of years ago. I guess a year and a half ago, was just shift towards more storytelling and the stories behind the players and do a human interest feature. So today we'll have something on Jole Pisey.

She's a former University of Arizona woman's goal when he was from CDO and she's now playing for the Kansas City Current and uh, their game is going to be on television this weekend, so we're doing doing a feature on her

today. And that's how we're just kind of shifting. And you know, as you guys know, it's it's a it's an ever changing media landscape, and it's kind of tough, and you know, kvu A was in the news, had some layoffs and and you know, so so we're all trying to figure out the future and trying to stay relevant well and and that's what you like, you said, you got to you gotta find ways to do that, and that's a there are you guys really do some good stuff.

The sports guys are really the only ones I watch because of this, and I feel like I get what. I get ideas, I get news, I get you know thing, you know, trends and things that are going on from from the work that you guys do. So that's very cool. So we do. Yeah, we want to cheat the cheap the viewer. I mean, if there's a giant news story, you know, we're going to put it on and and and I'll show highlights Friday of the Amazona softball

team in the NCAA tournament. But it's a little bit less highlight driven and a little bit more more feature driven. Is kind of how we're trying to trying to stay relevant here and and try to, you know, offer something you can't see anywhere else. That's why we're a bunch of old, goofy dudes trying to be relevant. I get it. We don't want to you know what. You know, you don't want to uh lose your core customer. There are people just don't get their sports dues from the from the guy

on the news. It's just it's just not as many anymore. About if you're under the age of X. No pun intended with Twitter. If you're under the age of whatever, you know you're getting your sports dues elsewhere. You know you're yea And I think with our listeners we probably lose a couple every day. Obituary terrible, terrible, terrible, but true. Takes a bunch of a whole bunch. Jason, We appreciate you, great stuff. Let's all right. That may be the first or second most funniest thing you've

ever said, and clever because it's probably true. Because sorry, anything, what do you mean I say, okay that I know that guy listened to our show. You know when I see the I check out the jo bits every Sunday. Man, Hell, we're on that list time, dude, I know, I know we're day to day. Baby, all right, bell, Hey, let's take our last break. We're to come back. Would love to take your calls. Five two zero, four, one, six, seventy four forty will be right back. If you're an Arizona men's

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on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to Win the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, You're Jay Henry with US DEADBUK twelve and a half and we got a call right away. Here you do, I let's pick this call. Hi, you're on the air and hind the ball alight. What's up? James Steves is George? Hey George, what's up? What's going on. What's going on seas? How are you? We're doing well, what's going

on? What's on your mind? George? You told me in a text you listen to Tommy and Jim Rome. Yeah, Tommy was on the Rown Show today. Yeah it was. It was was awesome. What was yeh? He touched on everything from recruiting to Caleb Love with a USA basketball to pickleball. Great, great interviews, great interview. Rome was great. He was giving her own some crap about how he would beat him in pickleball,

and uh, yeah, it was a good time. I was here having breakfast at the house with a freak show friend of mine by the name of Pie. We we listened to it all. It was great. And then minutes later some dude from tim Pe called up running his mouth about what what can they possibly run their mouth about? But they think they're going to be good or what? I heard that call me interview and I can't believe he disrespected you, Jim, And and all Tommy says was, Jim, I

think you got slow heat and slow hands. I think I could take you and pickle you know. It was all in fun, you know. And this guy from tamp was like, I can't believe he disrespected you and Tucson Tommy has been irrelevant. They have underachieved, and I gotta get props to Bobby who has us on the rise. I mean, okay, what did what did they have to say about Caleb Love? You know Tommy He's gonna support him either way, he says, if he's gonna test the NBA waters,

I'm gonna back them one percent. If he wants to come back, I'll welcome him back one Either way, I'm gonna support him. So yeah, yeah, so Uh. I ended up calling the Rome Show God on live and I bashed this guy, right, that's what you say? What did you say? Oh? I just I went off on the guys, said he's crazy, he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. And Tommy's the man you saw him owns you. We just won the Territorial Cup again. Uh, Bobby is a major free show on the sidelines, coach.

I hope they hope they keep them because they don't win with them, unlike his brother. Okay, it was it was great me and my Bobby Pie. We had it. We had a good time with it. Okay, Glori, George, thanks for the call man listen to appreciated Thank you, thanks, thanks for listening. Yeah, Georgia, George listens every now

and again. It's funny. This is why Twitter is so popular. And then whatever you know, social some dude, some dude with with two pennies in his pocket is criticizing the guy with a diamond his pocket that that shouldn't happen. It shouldn't, but it does, and we allow it and it happens. What are you gonna do? Tommy's under should you work? That's your yard? First one? You talk about Tommy and what do you achieve

before you tell people that they've underachieved? Right? Right? Because you know there there's a there's not a lot of that going on, particularly there's a state basketball No. In fact, we just talked about their A D A D. The guy who's been sitting in the background for months. Yeah, he's finally hired. You could have done this a while back. Yeah they could have, and but you know you know what I mean, did they What are they behind on stuff up there? Because of that? Right?

Is there things that weren't happening because they'll be waiting for an eightd. Well. The funny thing is it's quality of people. There's there's swim coach left ye and left. Yeah. So they're doing things like the day after winning the next things. But you you just don't see it. Hear about it right right now? Yeah, you know, what are you gonna do? And well, look fine, and that's you know, that's the rivalry.

You know, they're they're gonna poke at each other. You know. An a person sees Tommy Lloyd getting some getting some love on on the gym Rome show, he wants to go in there and step on. Here's the problem and issue and Bobby are and I'm just speaking the truth in my mind, they're not on the rise. Where are they on the rise? They went the other direction as far as I know, right because they were in the weren't thing fancy a tournament two years ago and then this year they were not.

So don't tell me that they're on the rise. I don't think they got any good recruits. Yeah, and we got the one guy, they got the one five star guy, the best guy ever. Yeah. That who knows why he did that. That's that's a weird thing, mystery to everybody. But you know, n I l he says he needs help with the ni l to get and this is and that's a great cat. I know you don't you haven't been there since you were two, But I love that campus. It's a lot to do. No, they the whole area

over there. They they've done a nice job that little city. Yeah, you know, and then when they got the lake over there and all the stuff, you know, all that stuff around around. I got you know, when we were up there for the final four, we went into Tampede twice for dinner and it just walked around and it was a cool place to

be. And what was the last time you were there before that? Yeah, it's been a while, been a long time, and you must have been impressed or yeah, no, no, sir, I absolutely was, absolutely was, because you know, they have done so much and we had a great time. You don't find a couple of great places to go get something to eat, a pizza place and then a bar and grill. I'm sure to watch games and stuff. I'm sure Jean and Gene and you know he reacts was like, wow, yeah, no, we all did.

We all did. And yeah, it had been a decade or more. I had been to Tempee and so much has happened I'm sure you've been on their campus. Yeah. I was at the football game last year, and what would you think it was? Yeah? The stadium was really beautiful on the mountains and just the area with all the restaurants in the rooms flying in the Phoenix, it looks like many towns. Yeah, and they still can't

pull a winter. Yeah, which makes it again, it's that I'm tired, but I'm never going to use this giant in the sleeping giant, because you know what, we've been talking about it since I got here thirty seven years. It's like a dead giants. It's it's right, a guy who needs CPR Toto's giant. Right, So what's the point? At some point you might wake up? Who cares? Been so long? Well? Which

your courses? I was going to tell you back. So you've you're sixty four years old, You've won one national title, one national basketball, baseball obviously very very good, and it's baseball town, baseball basketball town. You think you have one more in you somewhere football basketball? Yeah? I do.

Before I think Arizona wins the national basketball championship sometime relatively soon, give me the relatively before you're seventy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, before the Alabama game, before the Alabama football game, which is twenty thirty two. Twenty thirty two, okay, eight years what the game was that? Okay, okay, we've got Alabama on the schedule like in twenty thirty two. If both of us are alive, it's doing the Bad Eyes on the ball. We've said an over under of that game for my brother, Bad Eyes

on the ball. Yeah. I'd like to think that they will. I feel, in spite of what's happened, you know, an early exit the last two years, I think Tommy's got the program going in a direction that they'll they he'll win a national championship here, if it's in five years or ten years or whatever, I think he'll win an as. I think. I think he's had a shot. He's had a national championship caliber team all three years. They just haven't done it. Let me take you back to

twenty eleven. Okay, So a friend of mine both the guy we know, came up to me and said, Steve, I just want to I'll bet you a hundred bucks that Sean Miller doesn't get to the final four and win a title. And I'm thinking, you're you're crazy. Yeah, you're you're crazy. I'll take that bet. I'll take that bet. And guess when when did you have to pay it up? Well? I still had a chance. Uh. And I can't cont tell you who it is on the air, but I will tell you out the air. Uh, it

didn't happen. It happen. It didn't happen to be great shot. You think you think after seeing him play against dude, you're thinking, oh, Arizona's going to be it could be good. And they were for those two teams, those two those two back to back the lead eights that he had, either one of those good you know, either one of those teams could have won the national championship and then didn't get to the final four. Right, And that's what I'm saying about Tommy. You know this team I thought

was good enough to get to the final four last year. Yeah, they had some you know, towards the end of the season you could see the big, big holes in in who they were, and you know, and so it wasn't shocking that they didn't get to But you know, I mean he's won thirty plus games three years in a row. Yeah, and not

against easy competition, right, that's the thing. And now you know, I actually think that moving to the Big twelve, playing a Big twelve schedule against you know, the challenges that they're going to have game in and game out in the Big twelve won't make them better prepared to go further in the turn. And that's why I think that that fans need to be more patient.

I don't think he's gonna find the same success regular season, but you're right, they're going to develop Kells's I'm not sure patient is the word. I think more. The word more is realistic, but realistic realistic with Look, this is gonna be a very hard league for Airs on a basketball a hard league, but the one that's gonna be been, it's gonna it's gonna help them down the road. I mean, how many times did we go into the into the NC Double A Tournament saying they just haven't had it tough

enough in the Pac twelve. Yeah, they have not been challenged enough with with Jason Barr pointed this out. We talk about it all the time, with good roads to get there right to good with good yes, simple simple twenty eighteen, whatever West do you want to play in the West? You have these alleys in this year, boom, you have the roadblock, sober you poop the bad yeah right and again as a favorite. Yeah, so I think I see I see an NC double a championship in the in thommis.

You've had one in sixty four. You have an eight year window. You know what before that one, I didn't. I didn't couldn't even imagine Arizona winning the National championship in basketball because one of those things that I saw on TV every year. It was a big deal to me, and I thought, Arizona doesn't win that, they don't play in that, they don't get to do that. Well, you mean before before like the eighty eight CS. Okay, so but the eight you think great, then wait a

minute, they're in the final four. Sure, yeah, they can be there. And then eighty nine you have the best team in the country. And then they pooped the bed. Okay ninety eight, Yeah, but they were never going to win that again with but they were very good. Yeah, but ninety eight poop the bed two thousand and one, no fault the gout there they got there. Uh, they just had some bad you know,

Gilbert getting hurt, Luke getting hurt and Duke was very good. Yeah, so yeah, I mean yeah, I'd like to think that that it's in Arizona's future. You got eight years, baby, clock start the clock in Alabama and then yeah, final four, that's the title. I yeah, you know, football. You know, I don't see a national championship in football's future, but I do see playoff. Actually, they could get to the playoffs this year. You know, I think they've I think they've

got the talent they get talking about Final four? Who what happens first football playoff? Yes, final four? Yes, football players, twelve twelve twelve teams. Yeah, because I think they're in the league football wise, it gets them an opportunity. I think they could be in it this year. But you know what, Tommy could win the national championship this year too, So yeah, so yeah, I guess I'm not so sure, but uh yeah, I think the new the new league in football lens more towards that

than than basketball. That's what's gonna be tough, it's gonna be fun. All right, that's it. We got to get out of here. We're gonna be back tomorrow. Matt Moreno will come come in talk about recruiting. We'll have tom Candatt to the former major league pitcher, father of the Aarzon a pitcher, so be sure to come back tomorrow

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