Wednesday, July 3, Hour 1

This is Eye on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez Sound Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your most Prized Possession. It's katz are two sad at iHeartRadio station. A good afternoon, everybody, Well, come to iron the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve, He's Jay. We have Henry with us today. Two hours of exciting sports talk, probably because I'll be napping the whole two years. You know,

you make it like you don't want to be here today. I'd rather be sleeping. It's sleeping. It's hot, I'm tired. There's too much, too much stuff to do to be sleeping. What do you mean, too much stuff to be Give me those stuff just what I said, give me a lift. We're having a hard time finding guess we are. You know it. It's the dog days and subtle, it's the start of the

summer. You know, people are doing things. But we pulled the one out of our whatever today we did to get you some uh fireworks tonight Tucson Jonathan Frolling ye ye, yep. He was excited to be on the show as always. And then since we're gonna have the ad next week. Right from an issue, right, I ThReD we did the hold of Bob Kemp to gauge the gauge the last place finished that they were predicted. Yeah,

wow, we're talking about we're talking sixteen out of sixteen. Yeah. I already saw something on the internet Issue Fan whatever he's called himself that if that happens, that Dylan Hamm has already kind of worn out as welcome and I'm thinking he's been there not even a year. Well, they're not gonna finish last, you don't think so. No, who's gonna finish last? I don't know, but not that really well, they got some players this year. He did, he did the other schools players. Do you know I

think? I mean, somebody's gotta finish last, right, Someone is this Jay Henry. He's always poopoo on an issue, But not because against Steve. I just think it's it's wow. I think it's it's the it's the Big twelve media not giving the four the four new teams any respect. I want some of that action, but you'd have to give me some odds. I think, Yeah, no, because I'm not gonna bet you that because they're not have to rook for them, and I don't want to do reverse,

like want to get god doing that? Okay, that they'll just blow my whole in. I don't know what the bottom of the barrel looks like. But they're gonna be there, well yeah, I mean, do I finish? Do I think they're gonna be one of the bottom four teams? Probably? I just think Kenny Dillingham has shown he's he can I think what

Look, he's he's the same. He's their version of Brent Brannan, right, A guy who wants to be there, right, A guy who really cares about the place he's I mean, he's recruited some guys, you know, I don't know. I just don't. I just don't feel like they're they're gonna be the last place team got you, okay? You know it was one thing to finish last when you were in the Pac twelve when they were only twelve teams. Yeah. Now if you're the last out of sixteen,

how far back are you? That's bad? It's bad. That's a lot. Or if finished, if you're you know, if you're eighteenth in the in the in the Big ten, No, No, it's bad as much as it's not that great of a conference for football, you know, it's not maybe top heavy, but it doesn't have a cow anymore. Yeah, I guess I don't know how a Washington State, you know. I guess I don't know who the really bad teams are in the Big twelve, right right, right, right, that's part of it. I don't know.

I think it's a premature evaluation on both our part of premature what evaluation And that was purposely said, premature evaluation on our part because not knowing and the media over there not knowing. Right, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you're you're right. So I don't know. Maybe maybe they will, maybe maybe they won't. I don't know. I don't know. It's gonna take another year or two. Obviously, I think you know, he's gonna have to pay the jet fish of the of the issue where they kind of

rolls into it and then all of a sudden, boom it happens. Right, So we'll see, we'll see. Yeah, so we had Bob Campbell, will have him out for that. I think we're gonna talk a little about, uh so, maybe some sun stuff because the sons, who knows what they're doing up there with the basketball team and diving back. So just cover it all up there. Yeah, because in fact we'll have the a D do you know when probably the Friday. Well he's he's gonna be a

big twelve im mediateday next week. So we our friend Doug Tamro said he's gonna he's trying to line him up for Thursday Friday next week. Okay, cool. You know, look again, I'm gonna be friendly to him, right, That's the first thing I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna bring a guest on even though he's from a s U and you know, be mean to the guy. Uh you know, it's not even the seats, not

even warm. What are they going through? Right? Because here, look, you know we're okay with it because we feel pretty good about where Arizona. You know, as an Arizona fan, you know we think Arizona's gonna be very competitive in football. We know they're gonna be very competitive in basketball the other sport. You know, Uh, Pat forty did you see Pat forties call him? He did a column about sort of the I don't know prognosis is the right word, but just got every team that's moving into a

new conference. What do they bring? Right? And so you know he you know, he mentioned the Arizona sports. You know, football was ten and three and finished third. You know, basketball won the league, you know, and then they ran through as you know, their their their football team was terrible, their basketball team was under five hundred, their baseball team wasn't very good, didn't make the tournament. You know, all those things.

You think, what's their perspective. We're you know, we're okay about moving over there, and we're kind of excited about it because we think Arizona's gonna be competitive probably in most sports, you know, certainly tennis, certainly golf, you know, and then you know the two major sports. Obviously they feel good about women's basketball, you feel good about baseball. If you're an RCU fan, how do you feel if you're going over there and you're

limping along with your program? And that's going to be interesting to see what their perspective. Limping along is a good phrase. Henry. You came from Sheboy in New York, connected in you or wherever in New York, Manhattan, New York probably right? What brought you here? Sports? I wanted to go to the school that's sports. So you didn't even think about an issue. No I did. I was, you're a su in Oregon, so okay. But when I toured SUS too big, so okay, okay.

So yeah, So then that's kind of the appeal, right because they're competitive. They're competitive in a lot of the sports. It's a good place to live. It's a good place if it's it's a fun part of your social life, right. You know. I think when most people say they want sports, they don't really care if it's that good. They just want like a football team and basketball team and stuff like that. M hmm. Well, you could have gotten to Oregon. It would have been a great

campus, great college place. But you can landed here. You haven't been on did you go to did you? I can't remember. You said you haven't been to campus in a while. Any issue, you haven't been a long time. Don't go there. It's a city. It's a it's a little city of unbelievable. Look, it's all over the place. Yeah, well you know town. You know we went to we went to uh when we had the final four. We went to dinner, you know, over

there off of Mill Avenue. And I don't know what you know, and there's the journalism school, right and the campus is the way the hell over there, you know stuff in downtown. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, because it's right there. Yeah, so you know yeah, I mean I could see you know. I mean it's ACU. Doesn't feel Arizona has always been, you know, it's just this place. Arizona's a place, right,

It's it's a campus. It's kind of Yeah, there's pieces of it on the north side of Speedway, on the south side of sixth Street, you know, but in general, when you think about the Arizona campus, you think, you know, Speedway to sixth Street, Campbell to euclid or Park that it's a beautiful campus. Yes, but so you think about it being in a central place. ACE is not that. No, No, it's

a it's a big seventy five thousand people going to school there. Whatever it is, Okay, So we look forward to that with Bob camp who will have a little fun with always do uh and then talk about peerlman. They have the fire the fireworks tonight and all that. I mean, do we talk to to Tucsons who are it's about a month ago or something like that, they have anything clime with it because it's so slim pickings here that it's hard to see. Uh fireworks. Yeah here, I'm sure the casino has

it. Maybe tonight or tomorrow. Yeah, and it's already July. Jay, it's already July, and a month we're we're doing football tomorrows July fourth. Man, it's lot you know, this is where kind of you start to get the feel of it, right, yeah, you get pack.

I feel like you get after July the fourth. Now it's kind of like, okay, yeah, we're you know, we're gonna start getting serious about this stuff right well, and then because football starts like late July, late July, right, practice starts, and then uh in a month later the game start and then here we go, yeah, here we go. Are you you're when does the school start? August twenty something? August? It doesn't come soon enough. You just kind of wait to chill. Yeah,

yeah, okay, what else? A lot of things I'm sure a lot of things going on at Uba or not maybe not a lot of things going on at you it's kind of very very much so you know, so we're having again, we're having trouble finding people, right, you know, because everyone's gone. Yeah, everyone's gone, and we want to make it relevant

to today. We don't want to talk about other things. But well, you know, next week, well should be We're not on tomorrow Friday, but next week we start kind of maybe even looking at other schools to yea, getting the other schools in here. We need to do that. I want, you know, I want to hear from the you know, like for instance, you know, we need to find somebody from Utah. Right,

they've been picked to win the league, you know. Uh, yeah, well we'll get somebody from the school, but certainly somebody from you know, the media up there. You know, we've talked to those guys in the past. Yeah, we talked. You're right, and they're going to be very competitive. Yeah, we need to talk to somebody from Kansas State. Didn't. Who do we have? We did? We had no who do we have? Last week we had Kansas covers kan poo poo your your

thought on I think this is a big deal for us. No, it's called Tuesday for us played Arizona. We see these games all the time. Yeah, yeah, you're not that good looking to a girl, Jake. We' I'm not worried about you the exactly exactly exactly, so you know, we'll we'll, you know, we'll see what you know, what uh what we got. But uh again, as I said, i'm, I'm, I'm I feel like it's about time to start having some fun, you know with all of this. And really really it's sort of been that thing that's

kind of been out there Big twelve. Yeah, it's kind of been out there. It's gonna happen eventually, but you know, not yet. Let's get through all these seasons stuff. Well we're through all the seasons. Let's uh, you know, let's start, let's start ripping into it. Well, people are still reminiscing. I know, we try to get Michael lev on today. I didn't see his call. Maybe I'll look at it now,

but you read it. He revenue, you know, yeah, it was it was kind of thinking about all the all the cool things that happened in the past. You mentioned that, you know, the time he spent covering USC and you know, covering uh, you know, Reggie Bush and things like that, and how all those things are kind of gone and you know, here we are and uh, you know, the here's the next you know, here's the road we're on, you know, the next the

next thing. Yeah, so you know I think, uh, I don't know, it's it's uh, we got to get past the emotion of it. Now. It's all over with. You know, didn't we do that two days ago? When I give you grief about it? You did? You did? And I and it over. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna be like share share on what was the one where he slapped that guy? The move cokut moon moon struck? He slapped him and get over ready, yeah, get over it? Yeah, yeah, no, I hear you.

You know, that's what we have to do. We have to we have to get over it and and and get on too, you know this next thing and uh you know, be uh be talking about the games now. I really want to talk about the games. Yeah, well soon enough, they'll be here. Soon enough, they will be okay, And it's any calls of course, we want to have him call in five to two, four, one, six, seventy four forty help us get through the day here, Uh, in between our guests. Anything else that you had

in mind? No, no, just you know, you know, were just again just beating the bushes for people and just finding out different things. I you know, got some interesting information. They can't can't talk about it. But you know, people are all worked up about something that they don't need to be working, right, I'll just say that. Let me let me say this. I saw a game. I saw the highlights last nay the Dodgers, Oh yeah, and show he hits that home run, and

I think it. I don't know why it doesn't happen more often, But the kid gets bumped in the head because okay, got hit because on the home run, the towering home run, people grabbing it and it didn't know nobody got it and some kid was sitting there and Boom hit him on there. Oh I didn't see that. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. Yeah, you know, with people grabbing, grabbing and hit somebody in the

face or something. I love the ones where like a guy has got a baby on the front and a pack, you know, make the catch one handed and hold his beer. That happens a lot. Yeah, this kid, Tobio got hit in the head, but you know it's still watching it. No, no, boom, you kind of google it, Okay, because I was watching the game. Obviously, I hit another four teamer with that one last night a four laker, same thing as I did the other

night. And again I never should have won that because the Dodgers were losing in the top of the ninth, came back and went in the bottom of you again, I've got this little Here's here's my gambling tip of the day for all you out there. My gambling tip of the day. I love. I picked three guys to get a base hit. Then I picked the Dodgers to either win the game or cover the spread. And so I had I had Shohy and Freddy Freeman, and I had Andy Pie has the rookie,

and and go to the eighth, the game's tied. Pie has was oh for four, oh for three, got he gets his base hit. So I got my three guys. But then they fall behind, and uh, the Dodgers down five four going to the bottom of the ninth, and then they win the game. So I hit it. So I've hit two of those in a row. Now, So Henry your journalist, right, So if if someone tells you this or that, check out his fourte you

better make sure that he's telling you the truth. The four teamer, because you know we live we're in a world of I did this check is fourteen. If you want to see it, you want to see it, I'll show it to you. I will show I trust you on this one. I'll bring on my accountant show it to you. What did you put on it? Ten bucks? Yeah? What? What was it? Yeah? It was too okay, So it seemed like you could have been done. The only thing you sweated was the game? Was the game? Yeah?

Well yeah, I mean I was sweating the hits too. But then when Pie has got his hit and I just need the Dodgers to win the game, yeah, both, and then they did, which is cool. I'll take that every time. It's fun, you know, it's a it's a it's a fun it's a fun way to do this because you know, it's I just sit there and watched the game and I'm rooting for stuff and rooting for them to you know, get base hits, and I'm rooting for them to you know that kind of stuff, and I just have a lot of

fun with it. It's not a hard bed. I'm not betting the mortgage on it. Yeah. Yeah, you're you're You're just having fun with Nicol and I'm good. Yeah, just having fun with it. Yeah, okay, hey, let's go, we gotta go. It's already over. Oh man, you did go over right. Let's take a break. When come back pet onct at, don pro join us. Chick her out. The Window Depot has everything you need to create the kitchen or bathroom of your dreams.

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you writing about home Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's chickensauce, snow and the phone we have. John Prolman, HELDEFCI Tucsons. John, how are you gee? You great to be on Jay? How are you, buddy? We're good, Man, We're good? How are you good? Good? Is too little bit warm? But tonight well, you can always change your season to this winter, right, you can always change You're not gonna do that, No, not all good johns. Let me

ask you. Is today one of the bigger nights of a season for you guys? Yeah, it's it's our it's our biggest, you know, regular season game of the season. Always the third of July has been a massive celebration of obviously Tucson soccer and uh, of course you know with us, you know, these end of these July games are really the difference between postseason and not postseason again. Just like last year, this game was massively big.

We're in second place right now, in playoff position, with control of our own destiny, and it's a great fireworks show and it's one of those pits where it's you love to be out there and you love to be part of the fans fare tonight because it's going to be great soccer and just a lot of fun. So you're you've been building up to this for a while. Now, what what's you know? What's been the makeup of what you're doing so far? What? What the character of your team or the characteristic

of your team? What? What? What? What are you? The team is super talented and it's really a team that can beat you so many

different ways. Right now, we have our you know, we've had injuries in the front line, and we had we switched a player to the number nine, Ilian Aguilar, and Ilian's broken the team record with six goals in six games, which is now a new team record, and he's been in great for him and William Arniston is a league leader in points total points for the USL And you know, for us again, we've had just tremendous performances

from local players like DeAndre Pickett will be starting tonight and Brandon Sanchez, and you know, it's just great to have those guys like Gego Belize, the guys are from Tucson on that team, contributing, Jared Allen and just we're excited for a big performance sight obviously play Arizon Arsenal, who's our rival from Phoenix. We already won the Golden Sorow Trophy, which is a combination of our women's team, our youth academy games, and our men's team, so

we already raised that trophy. But again, tonight's about playoffs. You know, we win the next three and we're in, so it's very clear what the target is. We have the talent, we've got a great head coach at Sebastian Pinedo who's really got the team playing at Sebasta the key moments of the season right now. But it's a tough conference and uh there's a lot of teams stacked up very close, so you can't drop points at home. So we're not going to do that and we're going to celebrate with a big

fireworks display tonight. Hopefully the fireworks will start early, Hopefully in the first ninety minutes. So let me ask you, you must be by the sound of the voice and you're in the successful part. The move to leagues has been a good one. Yeah, I mean for us again, you know, when we look at it overall, like I said, for US, League two was somewhere we were able to really you know, showcase our amateur players here, our top amateur players across the country and especially Tucson players in

League one. Obviously for us to return there, which we'd like to do as an organization, if it fits the model, you know, it's going to require a lot of upgrades on our current venue or a different venue that really has kind of that uh, that swagger to it to really draw the uh, the non soccer fan. But as as we operate in the summer with our fantastic partners at the Stadium District, we've we've had the best summer we've had. We they have great new management there. They've done an incredible

job of elevating our platform. And uh, you know what it's like, Steve, You've got to have the kids. Now, you got to get on the TikTok, you know, the dirt. So I got smart people doing smart things you have Jade to help you with that. He's dancing with his girls. My TikTok game is just like my vernacular. It's mid. Uh. We're just going to keep me away from that, and my job

is just to keep the guys going. We just have a great front office right now, and a great technical staff and a great women's team who's sitting in second place as well. So it's it's been a wonderful celebratory summer and we want to keep doing that. Momentum going, okay, cool, Uh, how many people would you expect? I'm sure you so get a pretty good crowd, right. You still have the Defend Club. I don't want to send their names, you know, I mean, yeah, the Captain

Pricks. You know, we haven't seen them, but they tend to come out on the big fourth of July. And as we get closer to the playoffs, we get you know, we have a good we have a good loud supporter section right now. But for us, I mean again, you're looking right now. We're hoping somewhere between you know, seventeen hundred and two thousand tonight for this, so that will be massive for us, and the

tickets are flying out the door right now. So if you just go online, buy them before you get here because it's always a longer wait and you want to get in quick, get scanned. So uh FC two Sun dot Com seven o'clock kickoff, Keno North Stadium Fireworks show after you know, John, I we're coming over here and Steve and I've been complaining about the heat and whatnot with the teams that are in the league. Is there any advantage for you guys? Is whether a factor for you guys? Does it help?

Does it you know, what's what's that piece of it? Gay? Great question. The answer is it does help. And I tend to schedule home, have schedule on the second part of the summer. I really want to finish off at home in the heat. So the hard part is we've had two games at home which we performed tremendously, but there's been a little rainstorm before, so it was like the two nicest days to be out there.

I mean we had these like two games it was like eighty three, eighty four degrees, and I was thrilled for myself, for the fans who were there, but for the team they were playing, you know, a California team, but right now when you're playing Arizona Arsenal tonight from Phoenix, that's not where the advantages come. It's got to be on the quality of the player. But in the last two games we have at home, absolutely I'm hoping you can't. You can't get hot enough for me other than I

want our fans to be comfortable. They can do that through alcohol. You got to sell that stuff, exactly. So, John, you talked about maybe moving up in the near future or whatever, but the venue has that been talked about? Yeah, we've We've had a lot of ongoing discussions with a lot of parties and you know, obviously you know the challenges and again we're certainly not analogous, but you know, and I'd like in our operation

to a very community friendly one. But obviously the loss of the uh the fact that we were able to keep the h GCC going and keep the road Runners here I have to do with the quality of the venue and what what the you know, Rionuevo and everyone here in Tuson is being able to do to keep that team. Conversely, obviously the Arizona Coyotes could not play in that arena that they were in and they couldn't get a new one pass that

would allow them fiscally to meet their goals and meet the league's expectations. So Keeno North Stadium is a wonderful venue. The county is a great partner. We're upgrading the the concession area this this winter. It's going to be amazing. But what's hard is you really need feedbacks, you need sweeps, you need a deal that makes it makes sense for a long term. So we're

working all towards that. I you know more, we've got to find a venue with another partner, a big partner, whether it's you know, downtown or it's with the univer that also has a need where it can solve to people's problems. So all those conversations are undoing, and for me, it's continuing to diligently do that by looking at our company where it is, which

is healthy right now, the healthiest it's been. So we just have to find the right partner in the right then you if you're going to make that step in that next level investment, did you John, when you were I don't know, twenty years younger. I think I probably I probably knew you then, if not before that, and you were a coach on the East Side. I think it was in the Sabino tankoverty area. Did you imagine yourself doing exactly what you're doing now or did this you know, did you

fall into it because I always thought of you as a coach. Yeah, I mean, I think the thing what happened, to be honest with you, was, you know, I was very much as a coach in the year. I can remember very clearly when we were looking at you know, twenty ten. I really was happy where I was as a coach, and I was ready for the next challenge. So it was looking very much like

I was going to go into the college ranks. There was an opportunity at Saint Mary's University in the WCC to be an assistant coach, and the wife and I were looking at places, and then, you know, I had the opportunity to do this and to be part of FCT John's first opportunity. So it wasn't my goal. My goal was to be a coach, and I was halfway through my master's degree because I thought that was the way that

the world was going. So this kind of was a u turn for me on the business side of it, you know, again, it was something we all learned on the fly, Greg Rick myself, you know, we just learned about people hadn't done preseason soccer before, people hadn't really monetized the League two team before, and so it was kind of learned as you go. That really wasn't a template to go from. But yeah, I mean I still see myself as a coach. I was on the sideline with the

academy team today, I'm a technical director. I was with a U fourteen ECNL team this last weekend in San Diego fighting against Seattle United to advance out of our group. So yeah, I'm still doing the coaching. It's it's my greatest passion. But I want to do as much as I can possible

for the overall soccer community here. If that means serving as a president and running a Elite two team and having a pro level academy at U twenty and doing these types of things with the women's team, I'm happy to do that because I want there to be a legacy here when I'm gone and something for people to enjoy and aspire to, no matter what level we end up being at. Finally, so yeah, I'm a coach at heart. There's no question, and I still do plenty of coaching. Well, it kind of

coincides with with the time with Beckham here. You know in the in that thing you had the copa I can't remember what it was called. In February or something like that. You have a diamond cop I love it, Yeah, because that's when kind of all the hoopla started at that level. Did you did you not have it or did you have it? This year? And we did. We had a pre season, but we only had one MLS game. So right now we just had a bunch of meetings to we're

looking to bring back a four team MLS tournament. We're looking for that Cup again. But like I said, we've had some big players in there. Obviously, there's a little guy who's pretty famous. I think it's a layout something. He's playing Forriner Miami and so they're doing a lot of stuff down in South Florida. And then you know with Coachell, that's the owner of the Galaxy, Philanshoots has a property in Coachelle where he's invited all of his

MLS friends to play there. So we have to create an incentive and we have to have a situation where it's a good fit for MLS teams to come here again with all that competition out there. So we're working really hard with PMA County and with another company that it directs teams where to go for preseason. So I'm hoping to have some big announcements in the next couple of months. Okay, great, and maybe lastly, can you kind of remind everybody

how to see tonight's matchup and who to get tickets? Yeah again, tonight seven o'clock, Keno North Stadium FC two sound dot Com tickets ups store family four packs starting a forty dollars, individual tickets starting at twelve dollars. Again, it's a big night. It's the Fireworks Extravaganza. We have a show after the game. You can come right onto the field and lay back on

your blanket and watch the fireworks with your family. And we are the we are the premiere July third Fireworks show as you've always been, so you can you can have double your pleasure this this Fourth of July holiday. So looking forward to seeing everyone. Get your tickets online right now and you look to see you tonight and now let's get a big win for the city. Well, thanks, Jonathan, We appreciate it. Thank you so much. Guys.

Jonathan Perlman, I'll see two son if you have a chance. So you haven't thought of anything to do with it, you know, hey, I mean fireworks always a blast, right, Yeah, I think you can buy go out at seven starts about nine o'clock, nine thirty ish. Whether she'd be okay, ninety five, whatever it is, okay, you want to just go and come back. Yeah, let's hit her break. We'll come back and take some calls five, two zero, four, one,

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you're Jacobs. I'll just listen to the commercial on. I'm thinking we have our eye on the ball. We just can't remember who's playing with the ball. That guy, that guy, the guy with the ball. What's his name? Oh man, it's summer. That's our excuse. It is so in the winter. It's winter, that's our excuse. I guess okay, okay, can you call anybody? Want to call? Please do five two oh four, one, six seventy four forty. You're going out to

celebrate the fourth tonight tomorrow. I was just asking is Deil Saul having a firework place. I couldn't find it. Typically they have it on the third I think that's why Jonathan probably said that they're the premiere firecracker. Well there, I mean, there's a few places right, you know, like like over by our house. You know, we're She's country club does a big thing and so we you know, we we if we want to, we can go just take a little walk on the other side of the houses.

And that's always that's always good. One time we did a really dumb thing and we all got up on the roof, including our little kids. We're fine, but now they think about it's probably not very smart thing to do because because little kids up on the roof and trying to get them off the roof, but that's spilling them into the back here because it was getting down. Yeah, exactly. The mount I don't know, haven't heard doesn't Yeah, I haven't heard it. The mountain doesn't. Star Pass used to do

them. I don't know if there's still soul. And then up in the up in the hills where I'm at, uh, the up in over Cole Overvell and that area has their own bunch of fighters. They sometimes some remember they burned down the mountain that one year. Yeah, I was that because yeah, it was a fireworks thing. I literally burned them out eight mountain. Yes, I was thinking one on on the hill up on an oracle, the the push ridge up there. Yeah, no, that was that

was like that was a light strike. Okay, that was a lightness I thought, because it was okay, be safe, yes, be safe. Okay, And we go on to coll please do fifteen minutes five to four, one, six, seventy four forty. Uh, lot's going on, a lot going on. What else is going on? But well, you know, just's still so much uncertainty about what's going on at the U of

A right, right talking about that all the time. You know, it's a big deal to me because you know, my son's and employee of the u A I should say, was and you know that all that whole situation just a lot of I'm gonna ask you a question that may or may not be answered or want to be answered. I'll think about my answer in a second. But a lot of change and change, uh it comes about with

bad blood or feeling sometimes. And I don't I don't envy desiree. I think part of her job to come in was to not so much clean house, but to do some cleaning of house because they had to anyway, right, because of the salaries and stuff like that, they had to. And again what they've been doing all this time has not been working correct, right, right, you know, it got them in the trouble that they're in

exactly, so it'd be justified to do it. But we may or may not know some people that are coming and going, and I know that, you know there's certain people there no names, that are scared and unhappy. Am I You got the same vibe? Yeah, oh there are you know. And again and there's just a feeling that it wasn't their fault, but it kind of was right, And there's some people in there's some people in positions who could have kept all this stuff from happening, and they didn't and

so well. In fact, I can for you say who because I don't remember the whom, but it was treated And I just throlut this for a while now and I've been gone, I've been covered the team for twenty three years. The paper clothes that would do it from other sources that it was kind of like a country club rent kind of like a country club. I don't know if you feel that way, almost almost like they had unlimited credit card, right right, No, no, you felt that too. In

some ways there were, but like in other ways there weren't. Like, for instance, they don't pay their stack creed. They give, they give you, but I've done it because it's it's fun. But you know, there's little things and they you know, well, we can't do that because we don't have money to do something like right, and then you go, okay, you know. But but on the other hand, there were some

things going on over there. They're just well, that's funny because I won't say to whom, because you know, we're in the press conference at the end of games and it's rare that they give us stats anymore, the paper SATs, you know, and before they just hand them out. Yeah, we stopped printing stats at the table a long time exactly. It says, come on, I'm an old dude, I'm an old school I need the stats in front of me. I'm not gonna get them like Peter until go

home and run. And they said no, and they said no, becast money. I'm thinking I've seen guys travel all over the country. You're not worried about money that way, but you won't give me a statue. It doesn't make sense. I'm out. I'll tell you the story. I mean, we went. We had a little of that because, uh, you know, a statu sheet for the press room at the basketball games. They said, we're just taking a printramid. That's what I'm talking about. Is

that where you're talking about exactly what I'm talking about you in basketball? Okay? Yeah, they they And you want to see the numbers we print? We now only print stats for the coaching staffs. Yeah, that's it. And thankfully I had your daughter who likes me appreciate it. Can you sneak me one? And she would, Rachel, would you know because of you,

she's not working there anymore. Give me one right away and kind of give the rest out to the kid, the kids on the podium because still I'm not going to fire up my computer and see see who did what. But but it was funny. It was funny because oh, I've seen traveling party of one thousand. I was standing there when that decision got made, and it was like, we're not handing out paper anymore. We're just not everybody can get it on their phones and their iPads, and we're just not

gonna hand out paper anymore. Yeah, oh we're killing trees, Steve, But give me a paper. And I see all these people traveling to Duke to everywhere. I'm thinking, well, we have actually we give you know, we give crap to visiting teams who want more than five or six stats at timeouts to go, how many coaches do you have? You don't you don't need ten, and they're gonna be by twenty Those stats don't get there, you don't need you know, you don't need ten of these. How

about how about we give you six? Now. On the other hand, the U of a bitch gets ten. They get their ten because the entourage. Holy moly, Yeah, you know it's big, it's big, but it's it's it's it's fun. Let's say it's funny because little things like, you know, like we should joke with my mom that she would you know, you know, drive across town to save a nickel on the candatuna right.

Well, no, my mob was gas yeah, gas too. Yeah, she she'd go pat, you know, there'd be it would be you know, well in our day, right, it'd be twenty eight cents a gallon. Would I'm not paying twenty eight cents a gallon, I'm gonna go pay twenty six or spend the money to get the money. No, kind of far as that goes, Yeah, it's kind of funny, but you

know, it's it's just that's on my mind a lot right now. You know, uh, just you know, because we're going through some stuff there as a family, and it's it's I'm sure it's not a it's not a light thing. It's a big thing. Yeah, you know, having been having been the paper closed and you have to kind of figure out what you're gonna do and who's gonna hire you, what are you gonna look bub That ain't easy. No, it's not. It's not. It's hard, and uh so, well, you know, we'll, uh we just keep battling

through it. And it's kind of on our minds a lot right now because we're not you know, we're not going to football games on the weekend, we don't have basketball, there's nothing going on as far as all that stuff. But it's like everybody's mind is on that, and it's kind of its kind of it gives you time to think because you're not active. Right, it's kind of tough. So but you know, we are where we are, so we'll, you know, we'll get there. We'll get through it.

You know, in in less than a month, we'll have like we'll start seeing guys and pads and stuff like that. I'm trying to figure out whom I'm gonna ask for paper stuff. Yeah, well, because your daughter's out there and football. They don't really do it either. It's it's kind of theytop doing that. Ye yeah, it's kind of like you find it, you find it. Yeah, it makes no sense. I know it's old school, but still yeah, no, you know, yeah, they

just stop. I mean, god, the thousands of stuff that we I mean, the pages and pages and pages, I mean there were I mean even even so still again, I don't know if if anybody's bored by this, but when we print stats at a time out, we usually print twenty to twenty five because we give them out. You know, Brian Jefferies and Ryan Hansen get one. They're the busy radio gets one. Coaching staff send some across the way to the TV guys, you know, and I'll tell

you what. The first time we don't get one across to the TV guys, you hear are coming back? Where the hell is my stats? I'm like, sure, I see your iPad in front of you. Yeah, you know, I see it there. I can see it from here, you know. And then they still want there, they still like you. They're old supposed. Yeah. It's like the newspaper. Some of us of the age read the news. I read this. When was the last time you held the newspaper? And let me tell you a story. Uh had

to be ten days ago. And and I went to pay for it, is like three bucks, I said, three paper, What the hell? And then Sunday's five bucks. I said, no, wonder the papers are folded. Who's gonna pay five bucks for a newspaper? I went to. I went to a doctor's office. It was a new doctor, you know. I got a new doctor who she has no idea what she's in for.

But I got a new doctor. And there was a newspaper sitting there, and I picked it up and I looked at it, and I'm like, wow, pretty thin coolin it's thin thin, right, not a lot in it, right, And it's old, it's and it's old, yes, And I had read a lot of it already, right, so that's that's the problem with that with the newspapers today, and obviously it's killed him, but I couldn't. And the price is the price three three bucks for

something you and what are you gonna know that you don't already know? You know? And kind of I'm sorry to say this too on because we make mistakes all the time, you know, mispronounced, do this, do that. There's a lot of editing mistakes in the paper where they don't have editors anymore well because and most of them are not local, they're in Schenectady who don't know how to spell aina or say I know or saw what he does.

Well, Our friend Mark Kimball is notorious on Facebook watch pulling stuff out and you know that man he spells You know that the star says tucscon in you know, in the paper. So you know, I don't know Mark's listening or if he listens to us, but a lot of people who listen to us. Do you know Mark and know that you know he's a former editor and he you know, he's you know, he calls people out on

that or have the headlines and the wrong stories and things like that. Yeah, you know, one of my favorite ones gave of that and again going telling old war stories. There was because you know, back when they should just do a lot of stuff were just okay, we got to hold a spot. You remember that the newspaper was then there's a Daily Star one day and there was a guy that got somebody had been had been arrested for some big crime and he was this big bald black guy with a big giant hoop

ear ring and they had a mug shot of him. Okay, well, somebody in the back room put that mug shot on four other stories where they were supposed to be the same size mug shot, you know, and then they're supposed to replace him, right, and one of them was a story about Queen Elizabeth. Well they got into the newspaper and so there was there

were five pictures of this guy and all five of them got in. Yeah, it was before they computerized the layouts, you know when they were when they were you know, printing out the stuff and then pasting painting on the on the on the pages. And somebody put five of those and then forgot to take them all out, and one of them was a story about Queen Elizabeth. So there's Queen Elizabeth for a day was a big ball black guy with a big giang golden spearing years. Yeah, those the newspapers had good

old days. Yeah, but I couldn't. I couldn't believe it. Three dollars, five dollars. Yeah, you know, I I guess. Yeah. I picked up that paper and I didn't look to see how much it costs. I just looked at it the recent Uh yeah, a couple of weeks ago. So it's about three bucks. Yeah, weeks ago. But no, it's fun, you know, fun stuff. But you know, just but but you know what I'm I'm kind of in the middle right when

I read the paper. When I read the paper, I read the electronic version on my iPad, so it's the newspaper, but it's not paper, you know, it's on my pad. I don't I don't like read. I don't like when I read the paper. When I sit down to actually read it, I don't go to the Tucson dot com and go through the links. I call up the E version of the paper so I can turn pages. I see what the story looks like. And she's paper with the

photos and all that is that constantly changing. That paper is it already set. How you can change the pill they add to it. It's like like you pick up the Sunday morning sports page. Okay, and it's got what you know, like the front page might not have the game story from the night before, but they add it to the end. So they add another

page in the design sports page. There's some extra pages from what came out, you know, what got thrown on your to add right, to add those so that those are there, so you know, I get up Sunday morning and to read the Star story on football game, right, I'm not going to get it on the front page of the electronic version. But you go back a f your pages and there's the games that that leve or or or Justin Spears stuck around to write. Okay, that makes sense. But

they leave the layout of what, you know, what got delivered. Then they add pages in the end for the late stuff and so you still get, you know, kind of the paper, the newspaper version of the story. That's how I read it. Well, the evolution, I mean, yeah, you know, I think back to the days when you know, when the internet first started and they just put the newspaper up there. Didn't think someday that that was going to kill him. You know, it didn't

make people pay. Well, that's the problem. That's the problem. Back in ninety six and I said, whatever it was, there was no solution, and they said, just give it to people for free and see what happens. Well, no, the demise, that's what happened. Yeah, And to this day, I mean, people hate going behind you know, paying you know, I you know, I do it because I was a journalist and I support and actually I have more subscriptions now than I did when

they would throw you the newspaper because you would read everything. And I read the stuff, you know, for the show and whatnot. And I've got I've got the Washington Posts, in New York Times, uh, the Well, the Star, the Arizona Republic. I'm about to give up the LA Times because those guys aren't you know, we don't have to read about USC and U c l A anymore. Yeah, that's a tough that's a tough

preaking that changes. That's changed a lot. But then I got other ones like the Athletic and stuff like that that I you know, I've got all these subscriptions, and uh, I think part of how we have the New York Times subscription. Is my wife loves the the recipes and word. So there you go. I know what to tell you about that. But you know, I do read the Washington Post. I know a bunch of guys

who worked there, so yeah, I read their special. Yeah you're still there, you know, you know, and I know a bunch of the writers from knowing from knowing Tom, so I know those guys. And then, uh, you know, obviously I need to keep up on what's going on up in Phoenix. Why I you know, I subscribed to the Probably. I just recently gave up my Mercury News subscription because it got too damn expensive. It was thirty bucks a month to be able to read Wilner.

His stuff comes out in the in the Star comes out a day later, you know. I like getting it when it's hot off, you know, when it just hits. The things usually comes out of day later in the Star. But I can't, you know, thirty bucks a month, twenty eight it's too much. But you know, for when I only read John, don't read anything. Okay, Well that's your future and started to press you. Yeah, you said, I heard him, our guest. You said to Leah Henderson. All right, yeah, so what she's going to

study in school? And she says, you know, sports journalism and communication. He starts telling her not to do it. No, I didn't say that. I said be prepared to be broke, be being haired to be broke. Basically, that is telling her not to do it. Okay, what you interpret it is your problem? No, no, no, But in fact I should not have said that, because it's probably if she's very good and she sounded very right, this is not that she's in the right.

She gets into the TV, in the TV, into the broadcast and yeah, and she sounded very very good. In fact, a couple of people liked our show yesterday with the paral Paralympics. Yeah, because it was different, right, and then obviously, uh, miss Henderson, because she was so bright, she was she was really good. Yeah, sure, very good. Okay, No, and if you have a chance, you got you can go find the podcast. I hope, yes, got them all up last night. Okay, I did get them out. So just

how do they do that? Real quick? We gotta got two tents, all right. Our podcasts are on the iHeart website. Just search Ie on the ball on any of these we're on, we're on Apple Podcasts, and we're on Spotify. So I know a lot of your Spotify listeners out there, so give us a listen over there too. So you can get them on anyone of those who put them up right not right after this, probably about an hour after the show, you can catch them. You can catch

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