This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen, powered by Nova Insurance Services Ensure your most Prized Possessions, katz R two SAD and I Heeart Radio Station. Very good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera. You're jagon Zalis. I sound a little bit different. Do I sound a little you know? You sound the same. Ball? Hey, maybe it's too loud, Okay, I turned I did turn up to think because
with this volume, the volume nab here rolls of mine. I think you have a volume. No. I thought I was gonna be like NiCoT a little out over there. I need to be able to hear him and hear this. Okay, you get good, man, My my hearing is bad. I blew up my ear several years ago with a with the fireway when you're sitting in a different s yeah. Yeah, So it's it's all that stuff. Hello, everybody. Maybe you get some calls today throughout the whole
show. We have a different type of show, you collective type of show, right five, five, two, four one, six seventy four forties the number you can call in. UM, we're gonna start at three fifteen with James Reddy UH former he was he was the first year UM UH trainer athletic trainer at the two Sound Sugar Skills UH. Through his work at Banner continues to work with Banners as a sports medicine guy. UM and Banners doing a really a really cool thing this on Friday. UM. You know,
every athlete that plays high school sports has to get a physical. There's some athletes who can't afford it, some who can but don't want to pay for it. UM, Banner from about one o'clock until five thirty on Friday is gonna be offering free physicals that meet the requirements of the AIA. You're gonna be doing it at the at the UFA Football's indoor practice facility, the Cole and Jeanie Davis UH Center, and they'll be over there for about four and
a half hours offering free physicals to anybody who needs one. And so James is gonna come in and talked to us about out of just Banner's role in doing some of those things, yeah, yeah, because he's involved with They're involved with a lot of things. Yeah, while they're the main sponsor named sponsor of the El Tour, and I see day at the time I wrote in al Tour, I you know they needed you. I was on their team for one you need and then you know James helped me out. So
uh fun guy. I had a really good time working with him that first year at the Sugar Skulls and so um, really good guy. But a good thing that that Banner's doing this uh this week at UH at the UFA. So hopefully uh we'll get that word out to talk a little bit about how that's gonna work and some other stuff that the Banners involved in. So we'll have that at three fifteen, and then at four fifteen we're gonna bringing Sam Thomas, who also has a camp coming up this week. I think
it's Saturday or Friday. Uh, it's this week her second annual UM second annual UH summer camp. UM. She's going to be doing it out at the at the Jewish UH Community Center and uh uh, so we wanted to let her come on talk a little bit about how that's gonna work for her, how to sign up, how do you become a part of that, and all the things you get if you go to this camp. So it's a it's a you know, good thing for uh boys and girls ages six
to eighteen. I just just got it called up and it's on Saturday, Saturday. She's still she's still with the Mercury. I think, I know, I don't she could she's so quick quickly. But it's okay. It's the second year that she's done this camp again. It's boys and girls, uh six to eighteen years old, and they'll be doing it at the JCC okay um on on the fifteenth, which is which is Saturday. Okay, okay, So we'll get to that today. Anybody want to call us,
please do again? Enjoy said five two four one six. A lot of good feedback from yesterday's show, and it was a lot of fun with Elijah Russian and Mike Conans are also a lot of the a couple of parents friends of mine. So that was a very good, refreshing type of interview because you don't get that very often. Well, you you have them, but you don't get the excitement of a dad who's right, and that that's what we were trying to bring out, right, because you and I are dads,
our kids playing sports. Um, we were very proud of how you know, what they achieved and uh, you know and all of that. But you know, you hear you have a dad from Tucson and his kids in the big leagues, and that's that's different. That's hard to do. And it was it was very cool to talk to Mike and and see how exciting it was for him, how it came about. Uh and uh, just you know that, uh, you know, his kids just grew up playing baseball, loving baseball, worked hard at it. You know, he's
a big league baseball play right right, right? Right? Okay, Cool, what's going on today? You you wont like two two dollars on your bed from I want like thirteen dollars, you know, I mean to profit right that ten bucks I collected twenty three? It was just a ten dollars bet to have some interest in the game last night. Uh. You know,
the the American League had one nine in a row. You know, I grew up at a time when the Nation League won this game every year, right, well, they hadn't won since twelve, right, yeah, the American League had won a ninth straight. I thought, you know what, the Nationals got to win a game. Now, I didn't look like they were gonna they were down too, that's why you bet them. Yeah, you went against the trend. Yes, well, I guess every blinds
squirrel. Oh yeah, I would have gone hadn't been right eighth straight. Well again, I only bet an amount that I was comfortable losing. Yeah, thinking I probably was. I look, I root, I still root for the National League. I'm a Dodger fan, grew up a National League fan. Um, you know, I don't. I don't watch the game on the edge of my seat like I used to, and I don't think
anybody does. Um, but I was rooting for the National League. You know, a bunch of Dodgers were in the lineup and they wanted to three to two on a home or late in the game. And it's very cool. And I got an extra twenty bucks in my and my Draft Kings account. Okay, well, good for you. You know, I went through a get off my long kind of thing with it though, the uniforms,
because oh my god, they did look a little boring. Well, first of all, you know, one of the things that I thought was always so cool about the Austar game was all the players playing in their universe of their own uniforms, right, you know when there was that period of time in the in the change. Huh when when did it change? I don't know. I didn't. I didn't think it had noticeable last year. I don't. I don't remember. This must have been I don't remember. But
you know, that was one of the cool things. You know, the the visiting team would be in their visiting grays or whatever color. You remember. The Phillies had the blue uniforms, the Braves had the blue uniforms. Who else had blue? Uh? Um uh? The Cardinals, you know, they had the powder blue in the road uniforms in the National League and
that was cool. And then you know that everybody wore their whites on the you know, the home team and vice versa, you know, and they would alternate, you know, and and that was just a cool part of it is watching these guys all play in their own uniforms. Then they break out these softwall uniforms. Yesterday, the National League had these these dark aqua jerseys and black pants. Now, none of these guys wear stirrups, right, so it was just solid black from the waist down. It looked like
they were playing in you know, blue jeans or something. I mean, they just look like bad softball uniforms. And then the American League had these teal shirts to match, you know, one of the Mariners, you know, home colors with white pants. It looked like two softball teams up. Who had the better team? Who had the better according to you? And Kenny did the best team with the best looking. Because both uniforms absolutely positively should ended in zero zero, it went three too, right, so it
was almost a tie. The universe. The whole uniform thing was offset because both uniforms just suck. And and again that's me, that's got off my long kind of guy. I know that. You know, do they do those jerseys because then they can go sell the jerseys and YadA, YadA, YadA. But am the National League were particularly ugly with the black pants. Yeah, they did look strange to me as well. I just watched a little bit highlights on the of the game. I didn't watch it all.
I hated it. Yeah, you're becoming more and more like me. I like it, I will know. I'm not sure if I liked it. I hate it, but I watched it. I watched most of it. I did a pretty nice place, pretty happy. I did have dinner during the games. I missed a little bit of the game. I saw that, I saw the game winning homer. I was very excited about that. But uh, the game doesn't generate though, the drama and the excitement that it used to, like a lot of things of the of the games where
you were from other people or in generally, it just didn't have. I think it's part of it. I think this is what I think. We get older, you don't want we're kids, as your son's younger, but not you're really younger. As we get as kids, we we know the status. You know who's wearing, who's what. And then as we get older, we have families, we have whis, we have kids, you know, blah blah blah, and it becomes you know, okay, maybe i'll watch man, does that have something to do? It? May well?
Yeah, and get out. I don't know what what what it is that, but you know the game mattered to me back in the day, Back in the day, yeah, of course, man, I would be upset if the National League lost. I remember the first time the National League, but what they had to change, it hadn't changed itself. I don't know what change. No, no from you. You don't know what change with you, No what it changes? When when you could tell it didn't
matter to the players anymore, the game doesn't didn't like the tide. But there was a tie in the whole bit the games the game. The players stopped ring caring about winning the game. There was a time when and there was the time that it was evident probably probably maybe in the last fifteen years, probably what did they started going with the ties in the if you win your But you could tell that there came a time when it didn't matter to
the plays. They're making too much money, they didn't want to get. Of course, guys would not play because they had a or arm. So whereas if he rose nearly killed a guy because he cared so much about the game. So now you wonder why I don't like sports as much as I used to. Yeah, at that part of it, I understand that you lose your passion, right, and you've lost all your pass You have no passion I have. I have little. I watch it. I watch it
because I'm interested, but I don't have that. You don't edge your steam right because I had to put ten bucks on it to care about the game, Well, you do ten bucks a lot of different times you care about But but you know what I'm saying, though, anybody want to call, did you purpose he watch it? Did you? Did you feel the same way you care about the game anymore? The way that Jay does give us. You know, like my son Adam, he wanted to watch a game,
but he he follows the players. He knows all the players. I was just gonna say, and he wants to see how these players do against the best player. I couldn't tell you Mookie played rightie, that's so many I could give you. Freddy Freeman, you throw some maybe no five if that one? Crapass Soto, Yeah, he hasn't played well, has he? No? He was on the All Star team. I don't know how he got when he got the win of the flyballs? Since how do you
get on the Yeah? Exactly exactly. But you know, you can tell the players stopped caring so much about the game. So when once that passion for the game was gone from the players, my passion for the game was gone. If they don't care, why why do I care? I can say that for a lot of different things. When I do and I get it, get it because that's how I explain it. If the people involved don't care, why should I, right exactly, So that's that's kind of
how I've I've taken it for me. And I missed that, Steve. This was the best of all the all star games, right question. The Pro Bowl even was pretty good for a while because guys cared about winning. Then that went into the rap the NBA, the NBA All Star Game, so I know it's having a game anymore. Guys don't even try. They just kind of jog up and down. But the baseball game, the Major League Baseball game, was a game that mattered to the players, and it
mattered to the fans, and winning the game meant something. It's a beauty pageants that that's going away. And it's funny. I remember you spend the daytime. People would take the day off of work on the Tuesday, you know, to stay home and watch the game because they played at a one o'clock in the afternoon, you know, like that like the World Series. Do you see how much it cost the parking sign? I saw that sign,
that signor but I missed that about the Oscar game. I wish to wish, but that's never gonna come back that the players they make too much money. It's they're not going to take the risk. They're not gonna go out there. And I mean at the end of the game, did the guys run out there where they excited that they won the game? Sure? Yeah, but you didn't feel that tension during the game, right, like it mattered you know, you know who who? You know who's winning the
game. As competitors, Yeah, they're out on the day and they're gonna play then try and win the game. You also, okay, change, I'll agree, let's say fifteen years ago changed for me about that time two sports. When you go to the games, you don't want to talk I go, I go out to go out to guys, they don't talk sports. Come on, I don't want to go back to work. Yeah,
I don't want to talk about work. So do you think with the guys you do it all the time your friends that you said, come on, I really only the only time the only time I talk about we talk about sports, or when we're talking about you have a sports and usually by now with my kids group with my son, and there's like different like my son and my god Son and his group, we'll talk stuff. You know, they talk NBA, but they talk NBA. I don't know anything about the
msure. And we'll get into football. We're talking college football because we got a bunch of guys in our group. You know, they went to different schools in Washington and Creighton and uh and uh. You know they work at different colleges and so I guess we get into we get into that and we talk that kind of stuff. But otherwise, if I'm talking sports, I'm talking you have a sports I'm talking about football. I'm talking to you of about or maybe even The funny thing about it is when you I'm sure you
get this too, when you're out with your buddies. What do you think about Jed? What do you think about Tommy? They just want reassurance suff they already know. Yeah, what are you gonna tell them? They think we know, They think we know way more than we need exactly. You see it. I see, I'm not gonna see your opinion. Everything. All that stuff we play on our show at the press conference, that's all of it. That's what we know. That's it, that's what we know.
We might know a little bit more, but it's not much more. Yeah, no, but I you know, but I mean again, I like talking sports, and I do talk sports, but I also just you know, it's more related to the stuff that's personal to me. I don't find myself talking a lot of Major League Baseball outside of talking to the Dodger about the Dodgers with my son because we're both and Bill hates it on the show because we're both huge Dodgers and Bill hates it on the show. It
bothers him. It's going to continue bothering because I'm Gonnakeep talking about it. All right, let's take our break. We're to come back. We're gonna have James ready talking about the program that Banners put together to do um physicals at at the uf A on Friday and anything else the Banners doing a contribute to our sports world. Here in two songs, We'll be right back.
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Rivera, he's Jacon's awesome. Now on the phone, we have James ready from battering University Medicine. How are you doing, James, I'm doing good. Stephen, Jay, how you guys doing today? We're doing okay. You have any remedy for each stroke? I tell you what, James, sounds a little rock today. It might have been out on golf course too long. I was. I was out there. I was out there on
Saturday morning, and I'm still paying the price for it. James, it's a. It's a. I actually golf twice last week, which is really bad. You remember when he was doing the old tour and he came in and I'm sure you were there right when he came in home. Oh yeah, I remember. Will do the same thing, the same thing. We
need the medic that guy get the film by it exactly. So, um, so you're you guys, got a very cool thing going on Friday at at the u of A UM getting some physicals for some you know, for kids who won can't pay for them or maybe even don't want to pay for them, but something that everybody needs to have to play a sports here in town. So tell us a little bit about, well, what banners doing
out there? Yeah, this is our third annual and we're lucky enough to have some great partners in town with the Arizona Coyotes obviously with the Tucson road Runners and then also the Tucson can KEISA Doors have been really supportive to be able to help put on this event. And then obviously our partners with Arizona Athletics at the poll and Genie Davis Indoor Facility where this will be held from
one to five. And basically it's a physical for like, yes, any youth athletes, whether they're in Tuson Youth Football and Spirit Federation, whether they're getting ready for their high school season, this is an opportunity for them to come get their physical done by professionals at no cost. The good thing about it too is we upgrade every year, right, like the first ones,
Hey, let's just get these physicals done to these kids. But now it's also Hey, we added impact testing, which is a good baseline for concussion testing. And we've also added Fusionetics, which is an injury prevention app that is also at no cost everybody. And that's the goal is we want to provide as many resources youth athletes to keep them healthy so they don't have to come and see us in one of our clinics. Well, obviously, a big piece of what's been going on, you know, over the last several
years with all this is the is the concussion stuff. And you talk about this impact test, tell us a little bit about what that is and what it does. Yeah, So the concussion is, for those people don't understand, is one of the hardest things that not only diagnose, but treat because it's not like if you fracture your leg, we take an X ray, boomer you're good, right, Like we know you fractured your leg. Concussion wise, it's a lot of different variables that factor into this, and return
to play is also the bigger part of that. So impact testing is one part of this stuff we do, and it's basically a computer test that tests your brain function and how it's going, and having a baseline is really good for when you come back. We can be like, hey, you're pery normal, but let's do this test, and all of a sudden, this test shows you're only at eighty five the senate of the level you should be
at. It's probably not ready to put you back in sport yet. So it gives us a good baseline to help not only help people recover by knowing where they need treatment, but also making sure they're ready to come back. You do a lot of great things. This one, Um, you're just all over there, You're all over the place. This must keep you young. Um, I like to think I like to stay young, but I'm
also getting older. But yeah, I mean, Nick say, we have a great team and great partners all across, so that's what keeps just busy. I mean I remember when I first started to hear we had three athletic trainers and we just hired our twenty first. Wow. Right, like the
Roadrunners were with you. Of ay, we're at many high schools, so it's about the growth of athletic training and sports messon but also providing resources about the counts our number one with well, you know, the whole sports medicine business with the importance, as you say, of health, whether it's you know, knowing your you know your your brain baseline or uh, you know, all the things were going on and just so much you know that takes
place with all this. I mean, athletes are they're very they're elite, they're different, they're special, but then they're also they also break down and they've got they have a lot of work. I mean, you know, when I think about remembering when the first Tommy John surgery was done to today, we're like, it's almost like everybody's having Tommy John surgery. It's amazing how sports medicine has evolved over the last many years. Yeah, it's amazing
the difference now. I mean, like I remember back in the day when I got this physical done, and that's quite a while ago, not quite as long as you jay, but I mean it was a quick doc. How you've been Okay, good, you're out right now. I mean, we're catching heart murmurs with their cardiac streaming. We were catching so many things that we were never caught before. And it allows them to get the right treatment they need. But it also allows them to educate themselves on how they
could be a better healthy individual, just not in sports. I mean the sports is kind of the spearhead, right, like this is what you're here for, but it is about healthy living in Altar. Well, Jay, we probably need to talk again. No, just don't make him turn around and come. I'm a lost cause you know you're talking about this this impact test, and I'm afraid if I came over for one of those tests, you just find zero brain function and that would be my baseline and I would
have nothing. Yeah, I think you got a little bit more than that. Yeah, So how many kids are coming through do you expect? You know, that's always a good question because of that, it's no cost. I mean, our goal is to sort of every kid that needs in Tucson. I bet you. I mean we average anywhere from two fifty to five hundred normally had events like this, so I bet you we're somewhere in there. Right. But now that you've been on that in the ball as you
kind of double right. I mean, that's that's probably the case, and I stout educating that. But I tell you this, last week, my phone's been both my work and my personal so like, hey, when's this event. So I think a lot of people are ready to come back to sports to post COVID. A lot of people need something last minute because obviously schools starting right around the corner. I mean Sun Federation just started this week.
So there's a lot of people that need this. And obviously we do love for people to go see their pediatrician and get it done, but we also know some people can't afford that, some people don't have their right earns, or some people just can't get in right. This is the best thing. And so if we get I mean we have plenty of docs we're ready to roll for I mean up to six seven hundred people if need be. Yeah, no, that that's one of the issues is getting in to see
your doctor if you want to get it done at your doctors office. There were I think I think I would call one year, all of our kids who are all playing a sport. We ended up going over to over to TMC and they were doing something. There was a long line there, but you know, we got it done. So uh yeah, I mean there's some people who just can't get into their doctor in time to get this,
uh to get this physical. So do you you take a look at what the very organizations like the AIA or football, what they require, and then and you make sure that the exam meets all of those requirements. You guys do that. Yeah, most of the most of the people that will be at this event will we will use AI a form that they have. Um. It covers pretty much most everything we need. We do. Obviously, our dogs are some of them are naturally trained as well, so we make
sure if there's any other stuff we want to kind of add in. It may not be on the form because AI is the form you need, but they're going to check it because if it's a red flag, then they might talk a little bit off to the side on their next part of the physical. But yeah, it's we pretty much use AIA form. Okay, dude. Now, do somebody who wants to get physical, do they need to bring anything? What do they have to show up with? And do they
just show up and then and stay there until they get their physical? Yep, it's pretty much a walk in, first come, first serve. Obviously it will probably be spread out through the day a little bit, but all we need is it's under eighteen. Your parents, either a parent or guard in or the AIA with consent to treat which is for eighteen and under that form. We do have some forms available, but obviously that would make you wait a little bit longer and it takes some time to fill that out.
So I do recommend bring that in besides that good spirit and we'll get you in and get you out. So hopefully the way it won't be too long. So we get you guys, take carels all right, So cool, So let's talk about other things. Banners out there doing a lot of Greek things in the community, very important to them. One of them is IL Tour. You guys work about four months away. It sneaks up on me every year that I'm like, man, l Tour is almost here already.
It's a great advantage that it's obviously one of the biggest events in the city and we're proud to support it and the community. I mean, it really comes down to Banner is a huge part of this community, one of the top employers, and I think Banner is really wants to be part of the community to help out whicheveral way it can be possible. L two is a perfect example, and I expect the TJ on a bike again this year. You know, we gotta get it. We gotta get this event off the
day of a football home game. Man, I mean, that's it good. I'm sitting sit here, James, I'm kind of weighing this out, right, do I want Do I want to go to a football game and tailgate? Or do I want to go to a bike do the bike ride and throw up? I'm not feeling which I'd rather do? Yeah, I do both that day, So I think we can make it worse. We'll figure it out. We'll do it in the day before for you, Jacket, we could prevent all this, but him starting to work out right now,
that was it. I'm not gonna lie, James. That was a tough day for me. It took me. It was a And the thing was, I had done that distance when I trained, so it's not like it. But no, again, as I told as I told a T J. Jessica Witz, nobody told me that that the twenty five mile ride from Marana into downtown was all up hill. You wouldn't think that, right, I had no idea it was all up hill, and it was,
and it's at the very end was the most uphill. Okay, that's good for you healthy as that right, Well, I would I would have argued that the health part of it with you that day. No, but it's good. We'll see you with all this because in the next four months a lot of riders and all the cyclists. Do you have other things coming up as well? I mean pretty much if there's a sporting event or something in town, we're probably there. Obviously high school sports starting which we're at.
We provide a lot of medical care for a lot of the high schools in town as well. And then you have a sports ramping up, like I'll tell you tonight, I'm going to Becka Morris soccer camp, but over at the u A helping to support them. So our goal is a bitch sports in town, especially youth or ve a. We want to support it. But I mean the colder guard we've been out there the last couple of years. I mean it's what we could do to support the community and also provide
the best healthcare possible. Well, tell us a little bit about how this has developed into such a huge business for you guys, right, I mean, you've got this, this whole unit. I guess, for lack of a better word, that's involved in sports Men for Banner with all the other things that Banner does with the hospital and the clinics that it has and all that kind of stuff, and then this fits in there as a as a giant unit where you, as you say, you guys are all over the
place. I wanted support from leadership and people in the community. And I think about this all the time, but I think it's really sure that two sounds of handshake count, right, like most people you know, and the more good people you know, the better things happen. And a lot of times lobbies are it just happens We're at a different event and we're talking to somebody and they're like, hey, we need this. I'm like, hey, let's talk about how can we help you, like when you need it,
Let's let's do it like we do our tour. But a spinoff of that is the two sound bite classic bag goes on and that just happened, like hey, we don't have any medical coverage. Can you guys help us out please? And we get it. It's like nine people we're here to help no matter the sun because of part of the community, and that's real.
I think how it's grown is not only to the support and resources that Banner does provide, but also the relationships look good about right right now, you guys are have a great presence and thanks for doing all this absolutely and then thanks for this thing on Friday. I mean, that's really cool. You know, as I said, I was a parent three kids that had to do sports and had to get physicals and you know, having something like this around, I know how much it means a lot to uh do the
parents out there, so they're good. On you guys for doing that. It's our pleasure. And thanks to our partners because we couldn't do it without them. Of course. Thanks James, Hey, thanks a whole bunch. Be well and appreciate you reaching out and covering this for us. And let's do it again. Sounds good. And Steve, you need to be a little nicer on baseball right I'm not gonna do that, James. I apologies, all right, James, thanks so much, man, talk you later
than James. By the way, thanks for listening to love baseball. I know the thing. I know you love sports because you would be here if you did, and you love talking about it. I also but I also see you know how how sports you know, it's it's not the sports that we grew up exactly. It's not to say and it's it's totally um, how can I say this? You know, it is you're a little about
because of how it things have become with without question. And one of the things that I learned a long time ago is you do don't want to meet your heroes. And not that I've met my heroes, but I've met kind of my heroes. You find out things you don't want to you don't really want to know. It takes away sort of the uh, the lamor of it or what you didn't you know, getting behind the scenes in Arizona football and all that stuff has changed how I look at sure, how I look
at all of it. Absolutely I agree with that. That's the best way I can explain it. Yeah, I agree with you. Okay, okay, let's take our second break. We're gonna come back. We'll take your costs five two zero four one seventy. Uh. You know, if you need some more information on that on the on the the physicals on Friday, we'll put that up on our on our social media. So it's so it's handy for you. But we'd love to take your calls and take your comments
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Surgery I on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to hing about here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're jagon Zalis. You got fifteen minutes if you guys want to give us a quick call five two zero four one six seventy four forty. Here's a very personal question. Oh, I don't have to answer it. Do you remember your first physical? Oh? I know, kind of kind of. I had to be like six or seven playing baseball, playing base well, they did not ever, I
don't remember ever get anyone from litter league baseball. Yeah, we remember. I remember the first physical that I remember was I played baseball. Was then back in popcorn and football you yeah, yeah, had to have a physical for that. I have a job. I just turn around a cough pretty much, that turn around a cough. Yeah, I just remember, Yeah, what's six maybe eight? Baseball all the time with baseball, you really for literally think so I think if I can remember correctly, this is this
is for yeah, well for literally baseball. We just had to sign a medical release that we said, you know, if you were healthy the head right, and we're healthy, right. Nobody did any impact baseline on me? For sure, I'm not sure. Just think of how the times have changed. But yeah, no, you have to write because so many things happening. But I remember that first physical and you know it was my doctor, right, you know my mom took me to my doctor. Yeah right,
and I remember I remember him. I just mean remember being handled in places I wasn't used to being handed, right. Well, that's how I remember it because it was like a bunch of dude young boys kind of just yes, I knew that I went to my doctor in an exam room. No, I went through that once. But I remember the lines of baseball, baseball, but that well yeah, but then you know I got when
I went to play freshman football at S there was that, right. I remember going again, going for the physical and I'm starting my freshman year in high school and I just really really wanted to weigh one hundred pounds and I did it, and I was really up because you needed to be to play. No, I just wanted away, actually I got I wait a hundred prods. I wanted to be five feet tall. I wasn't five feet tall. I was four eleven and change what age? Fourteen? Really? Really?
Oh wow? How much did you weigh fourteen? I wait one hundred I wagh one hundred and five pounds? Yea, but I was I was four eleven. I was really upset. Okay, how it's a proportion kind like you are now? Yeah? Well, no, I was much skinny. I was a skinny kid. So that whole summer weightlifting, and well and here's the fun, here's the thing. And you know you talk about
regrets. Right at that size, I wasn't gonna be a football player, right right, I mean at age, at that size, in age, I mean yeah, in my class, in my class, there were three guys who all played major college football. Two of them played in the NFL. John John Missler was one of them. Okay, okay, I was he was in my class. No, No, that was markmus I was. John played at ASU. Then he played a bunch of years for the Giants. And then a guy named Reggie follerho I just found out I went
to prison. But he played, uh, he played some professional football, I think in the USFL or something like that. But but Anyways, there were some big guys in my class. So I my big regret from high school is that at my size that I didn't wrestle. I could have been a good wrestler, a low low weight one hundred, two hundred and five pounds, and I didn't wrestle because I played football my pressman year and I was so beat to hell from football that wrestling season. Dude was starting right
up, and I did not want to go. I didn Dude. You there's a special personality to be a wrestler. Yeah, it takes an SLB, but just a tough, tough man. I should have wrestled, or I should have run track. Was very fast. Was very fast because I wanted to play baseball and at the same time, Well, I did both. I did both. I did I did both. You remember Ruben Berry, Yeah, so he play If he ran a trek at Hobbs, he fast as hell. Yeah, he's a year older than me. Because I
ran fast, I ran state and he was one of those guys. The most unbelievable thing I've ever seen in my life. There were for Hobbs. Hobbs is like the number of premier team in the state. Yeah, big dudes, big dudes, fast dudes. Uh they they and they dropped. I was at State. It was a state under class hundred and we were ready for a fur forty relay. They they dropped the baton and still up
and one still one. I had never seen that before. Well, they couldn't drop the baton out of their lane and had to fall right in the leg, pick it up and run. Oh my god. My brother helped recruit Ruben Berry. Here he was. He went with some guys and they saw they went to see Tim Smith, right, remember he ended up went to Texas Tech. Then he went then he was with the Red Kids, had that great, great time with Redskins. But they saw Ruben Barry and
he helped to get Ruben Berry over here. He didn't play much here though. He was just he was just fast. He wasn't great, he was just fast. He could you do ransom kickoffs back, little receiver. He's like, we didn't see much from the Speedy this year. He think I think we will. I think they're gonna find a way to use them. I got to right at least like that. Right, we'll see. But anyway, but that that there, I've I've thrown out. I've thrown my
heart out for everybody. I should have run track, and I should have I should have wrestled instead of peny weenie trying to play football and baseball. Well, life would change. Life would have changed. I might be a little stronger, I'd be a little more fit right now if I had done that or not or not. But the wrestlings. Wrestlings are tough, tough thing like boxing. It's a tough way to make a living man. But there there's some tough dudes. That's like the kid Bell, didn't Bell?
Who's the guy from the same David that told me he recruited? Uh, same David I think, wasn't it He was a recruiting He was a wrestler, was that Bell? Marcus Bell? Yeah he wrestled. No, Marcus Bell was up in Yeah, but he was up in uh uh sholo pinetop era. Okay, we came from that, just a wrestler. Yeah.
Those dudes know how too, from as I believe, o. Kay, maybe that was just angles how to use their embody leverage all that stuff, right, all that all those guys you know and and Sworrow at the time, was they weren't sunny side but they were right behind Sunny Side as a wrestling program. Howard Bryany, Yeah, yeah, yeah, coach. He's still he's still coaching. He's around. I don't know if he's coaching, he's helping. I how old he is. He was old when I got
here. He was my brother ricks junior high football coach. Wow. So he in high school. Yep, he's seventy three. Well, I mean he's gonna be at least eighty. I knew that he I whenever got here. I spoke to him. Great guy, and him wound up at Swar. He ended up and I had him, had him for PE class. The legend with the legend with Howard Bryany, because that he'd been in the military. Legend, the legend if he came up from behind him, if
he touched him from behind. I saw him throw a guy. Yeah, yeah, the guy accidentally totally accident because he was you know, was a soccer It was a pe class and we're playing soccer and this kid tossed him. I thought he was looking and tossed him the ball, and just as the ball went into the air, Bran turned his back and then hit him in the back of the head. And he literally grabbed the kid and threw him like ten yards. He was a really skinny kid and he launched him.
I he got in trouble later for allegedly uh head biting the kid over at ring convict. That was back in the day when that was acceptable. The exactly it was acceptable, that would have been, you know, nineteen seventy five. But hawrd Brian legends legend and two. Okay, we got about six minutes. Anybody else we Huggins is still in trouble. Blah blah blah. The Northwestern thing. Now Pat fitz Jald's he's looking to sue.
He wants his money, right was his l Well, he's got forty million dollars left on his contract, so he wants as much of that as he can get. What he's claiming is that they when they agreed to give they signed a thing that gave him this two week uh suspension. So he in his mind he had he had been punished. He had a signed document of some sort or some or maybe it's a verbal contract that this was going to be his punishment for what they did, and then three days later they fire
him. So he's claiming, wait a minute, we agreed to this. I agreed to this, and now they decided because there was blowback from the public and because social media went crazy on the punishment. Now they fired me everything that they fired before they knew on Friday when they gave me a two week suspension. Yeah so, I you know, heard on one of the talk shows that that they talked to a lawyer that handles a lot of this college stuff. They said, the lawyer thinks he's gonna get every bit of
whatever he wants because because Northwestern screwed this up. No, they did, they did, They definitely did. Yeah. Um, they should have waited longer to make a punishment. Well either that or you know, you know, Steve, you vet the stuff right, Yeah, you know they they they again, they they have this investigation. They kept the results of it completely private, private school, so they didn't have to let it out.
So they've got it. They didn't let it out. They met, they put this punishment on it, thought everything was gonna go away, and then it didn't. And now there's all this. You know, if they had if they had put the you know, put the results of the investigation out, let the public react to it, and then made a decision. They could have said, no, you know, we were trying to figure out
what to do and now here's what we've what we've done. Instead, they thought they could they could uh, you know, sweep it under the carpet and nobody was gonna care and give them the two weeks and now all hail Brooke lists in Northwestern they're gonna whole a bunch of money. Yeah, and
then what happens through the program. It's already gone into the toilet. They went one and eleven last year, Um, you know, and they were, you know, the long time laughing stock of college football, got to a Rose Bowl, two, came semi respectable, gone into the toilet. And now how much worse is that going to get before it gets better? You know? And they're in the Big ten. I mean, here comes UCLA and USC you know, a year from now, and where is how
far? You know, Northwestern drops a couple more notches in the Big ten? No, I know, once you reach that top ishue, your top issue, there's no question you want to stay there. And it's like Kansas. I just saw saw something from Kansas. They're kind of like Arizona. Haven't had success, haven't had success. They found some success. Now they're just kind of like, now, we just got to continue to build, trying to continue to build on it. And teams like that, Northwestern Kansas,
Arizona or Northwestern again they committed. They you know, look, they've been a program that was I'm not gonna say they were happy with just having a football program, but you know, they got better. They made an investment there. They've built a hundred some million dollars football facility that's sort of the palace of all football facilities. SIT's right on Lake Michigan, in the whole bed and they say that there's no other place like it, and they're
gonna build them a billion dollars stadium. Yeah, and now all of a sudden, your football program is going through this. How is that gonna work? How are you gonna how is it gonna work? Yeah? Very difficult of cool, Okay, Yeah, I mean you know that that that's I mean that that thing that's a mess. That's gonna get messy, right right, and uh, we know what coach is gonna come in and well it's it's still obviously a very serviable, serviceable and very good job. You'll find
somebody. But but you know, it's it's got a it's got an up at e you know, alumni base, because Northwestern is one of the top academic schools in the country, particularly in journalism. Right, so there's a lot of journalists. We're keeping it out what's going on. We're gonna teach how to become good journalists. Just don't write about us exactly, right.
And so that's gonna be interesting to see how this develops over time and whether or not how long it takes a football program to recover, because they're gonna they're gonna spend this next season within RM coach, which again I brought I brought this up to the day begs a question, Wait a minute, Pat. If Pat Fitzgerald got fired about for this, for either not knowing or
knowing and not doing anything, what about the rest of the staff. I know you can't fire them all because you got a football season to run, but how do you keep them after this next year? Because they had to have been as much a part of it or as oblivious to it as Pat Fitzgerald. One of the two which both turned out to be a fire and defense for Pat Fitzgerald, how do you keep these guys exact. Wait, the defensive coordinator who they've named the coach got from south from North Dakota State.
He was, he was defensive coordinator North Dakota State. Everybody else if they've been there any more than a few years. This has been going on for a while. No, it's it's tough because you've got to save the program to one extent, to a decent extent, uh before the transition fully happens. Yeah. Um, we'll see what happens. I don't know many it's a it's gonna get messy and then and then I don't even want to talk about Bob Huggins anymore. I mean, holy cow, Yeah, that'll
work itself out. Just people are shaking their heads about that, Like who who's advising Bob Huggins? If there is some oh there's a lawyer talking growth that that letter for him, but who's why is anybody listening to Bob Huggins say I gotta get my job back? Yeah yeah, yeah, there makes no sense. I didn't resign, Yes you did about ten times. That's your wife exactly about how about your how about your players? Right? Who
you went and told that you resigned? And your staff? Who you told you resigned, and then you cleaned out your office telling everybody you resigned, and now you're saying, no, I didn't. They're making a lot of they're making a lot of fun of it with George Custanza thing, which has been funny. There was an episode of Seinfeld where you quit, but then he kept going to work and saying you didn't. You didn't think I was serious? Did you want to quick? So there's there's a lot of that
going. I'd breath until okay, oh my gosh, you gotta go. All right, we gotta go to take our break top of the hour. Coming back, we'll have some breaking news for you, and then we'll take your calls. After that, Oh we're gonna have Sam Thomas. I forgot at four fifteen. We'll drag back