Breaking down all the excess and as it's Steve Rivera and jakonzommits. This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. They welcome back to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jakin's as. Now we have some breaking news. Yeah, we got breaking news. I've ever been name. This is I on the Ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right, uh, guy, let's
start with the best news of the day. The path. The U of A has another PAC twelve Woman of the Year in really Delaney Schnell, the diver, you know, Olympian, all those things. Fantastic named PACT twelve Woman of the Year. I believe she is like the fourth fourth Yes, I leave the fourth one. Yes. Uh, there's the track person, let's say, and then there's a swimmer. I think it would be in the relationships laically Nightmire one nine was one of them, has been on our
show. Yeah like her luck. Well this is I'm a little upset that this is night in the news. Oh this is from College Athletic News, not from the OVA. But yes, uh, but Delane Ish now a
guest of the show. We're probudly to say because she's been you know, it was only Aspish for a while, there was a must know how to It's like the how can I won't say, they know how to package this person, whether it's you or you know, and they know they put the package together and she's because they have four now right, you said four out of twenty something. I think it's for something like yeah, no, no, fantastic, probably very well deserved. Yeah, and so congratulations verse.
She's local. We mentioned that a number of times. She's from She's from Tucson High and so it's a very cool deal for somebody who's, uh, who's from Tucson. Here it is, I found that, I found the story. Let's see, it's the same release doesn't mention the previous winners of the of the of the Awards. So anyways, Arizone's I think it's there there their fourth time. Uh no, there's even more than that. Snell is Arizone's record seventh winner of the award. Okay, that's even more.
Margo gear in twenty fifteen regeta Brigitta Barrett in tract when thirteen any high jumper, right, any Chandler twenty eleven, Justine Schluntz swimming twenty nineteen, twenty ten, Lacy nine Meyer two thousand and nine, and Whitney Myers too. It was the high jumper two seven. So right, so there you go, man, very cool, all right, just came across a few minutes ago. Uh, the the manager of the US women's national soccer team, Vlatko and Donovski, has stepped down. Uh. I think it was widely
expected, being yeah, how they kind of didn't do well. I had a bunch of cliche, you know, just sayings going down, and none of them were clean enough to say in the in the in the world, in the Women's World Cup. At some point, didn't criticize. At some point they won what they're trying to three peat. At some point. You have to understand two on another not another alibi. Uh. The teams eventually catch up to you. They do. I think I don't think it was
so much that they got beat. I think it was the way they looked getting totally you know, and talked about it the FC two so women coach stop point coach when we had her on the show. You know, she talked about how they just did not look like they had supposed. It was a fist fight in the in the locker room. I didn't see between between Meganpino Ropino and you know the really famous one, oh nor Lloyd. Yeah not no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I think of her name. I can picture. Yeah, me too.
I know you're talking about, but that there was a fistfight locker room. The older the older people, right, God, God, we're horrible because I see it too, and I should know this, And I don't just stop before you say Morgan Freeman or something. I almost did say that. Come on, man, you gotta have that. We gotta have that, Morgan. I've been with you too long to know what you're gonna start. So anyways, there so there will be a new uh men a women's
soccer coach for the for the US women's national team. Finding you're you're talking about the fights. So there's a fight of a fight at a Cowboys camp that looked pretty badly in sensive kind of offensive. Guy blocking and guys walking away and guy pushes and you know, and it was on and uh, helmets are no Elmets. Helmets are no Elmets. How you're gonna do with The helmets are there for a reason. They're a full path. You know what we missed last week? We know what we missed. And I didn't
know this until Saturday night. Uh Baldez. Oscar Baldez fought in Phoenix. Did you did you see this at all? It was a fantastic fight. You get his butt kicked, but it was a fantastic fight. Didn't know anything about it until I was flipping through channels watching boxing and there he was in that diamond in Phoenix, packed two. It was a build as the two Mexican fighters fighting for a national for a world title and went complete, went every round, beat the crap out of each other, and Oscar lost.
Yeah, and we we've yeah, it's it's uh, well, I didn't miss that, missed it. I'm zero down on baseball right now. No, you know you're Dodgers, all right. The women's you have a women's basketball non conference schedule is out. They opened with a couple of exhibitions, one on October twenty five, went on November first, and then they opened the regular season at Steve's New Mexico State Aggie's the November the sixth. They're out in New Mexico State, they come back here. The home opener
will be November tenth against NAU. Two days later they got Loyola Marymount and two days after that they got San Diego and then they head out for the Bahamas for the Battle for Atlantis, and they opened that with Memphis on November the eighteenth. But they've got Texas coming to town. If it's the back half of a home and home that they played over there when Aery McDonald was still here. Uh, they go to they play that game in Gonzaga against
Gonzaga and Phoenix the same day that the Men. That the Men two day two game things. They visit U and LV after the Battle Battle for Atlantis and then they've got they they've got Seattle here. So interesting schedule the Battle for Atlantis. There should be some good stuff going on there. Okay, But November sixth at New Mexico State is the opener and the home openers November tenth year against any of you. Okay, all right, Uh, there
was we'll talk to We'll talk to PJ. Brown when she gets in here. There was a media session with Latria Stubbs, the new volleyball coach. UH Volleyball announced that they broke their season ticket record. Excuse me today, so you know, some excitement there. Excuse me. Okay, I don't perform. I don't perform. Lunch man that the red chili chimmy chogas is working me over. Don't tell, don't tell them where you got it. But so volleyball, and you know we had the we have we're having the
season ticket discussion yesterday on on football. Yeah. I'm told that they're they're gonna top if they haven't already last year see tickets. Okay, there's still a couple of what can you say what last years was? Oh that's a given. Yeah, that's a given. Too much excitement, Yes, but they're uh, they're you know, they're doing well and they're doing well, doing well and certainly doing better. There's screamage this weekend, right, I
think it starts at six ish this weekend, thirty six thirty. I will be there. We'll be there. Yeah, well I hope to be there. Uh so, and the students are back kind of to get ready for the weekend. They start they start Monday, well there, the start on Monday. Yeah, so you know, don't last weekend without being a student. So yeah, they'll be out doing other things. But their parents will be here too, so that'll yeah, exactly, so they'll be around.
Yeah, all right, okay, so uh, the BA the basketball men's basketball schedule on their on their trip has been has been announced. So the UFA will play at two a m. Tucson tonight morning. Tomorrow morning, they're playing against and the United Arab Emirates Select Team, and then they will play again on Saturday morning tis on time at six o'clock in the morning against Data and then and then the home It's unlike a prediction, gonna make a
prediction. It's not gonna be pretty this time this second time pretty. They're gonna kill them. Everyone's gonna it was gonna be Oh. I don't think that team is any good. Oh, it could be wrong. All right. Well, see, but you can catch them on the on the u A YouTube channel if you want to watch them. I was showing a couple of guys how that works. Because you see some people on I don't know if you saw this on Facebook or or Twitter, that feed did and you
saw the feed right now, it was okay. Some people say it's better than the PAC twelve network. That's not you know what, say what you want, say what you want about about the PAC twelve and everything has happened. Their production, their production standards were really good. It was really good. They just didn't want to build. Just you know, kick some in the side when they're laying on the ground and that's all they're doing and leaving the hell along. Let's move on, gosh, dang it, just move
on. Play the play the damn games and shut the hell up. All right. Hey, did you see who was there at at the at the arena when they went to work out today? Oh? Yeah, Steve, Steve Kerr. Who's there with Team USA because they're they're playing some games over there. So Steve Kerr. I think he was participated in their practice and all that kind of stuff. It's everywhere, Yeah he is. Let me
see what else do I have? Uh? There's a new uh, a new new new face at McHale. We know these people because we see them at games and stuff like that. His name is Orville Jennings the third. He's going to be the Senior Social ad for Operations, meaning he's in charge of facility management in game operations, replacing Susie Mason who has left. Who has left the program after a long, long time. Yeah, well,
who does he look like? Orville Jennings? You see things a picture of him here, Okay, African American guy with a big bed, a bald head. No, no, no, I wouldn't I wouldn't know who that is. But he's a new face. Yeah, and they actually they brought him over here from Colorado. Okay, they flipped him from Colorado to get
him over here. But he'll be he'll be in charge of operations, one of those people that is at every event because basically is in charge of making sure that those events sure go off go off well, kind of a behind the scenes personal Speaking of facility, they just ran across this. Brett McMurphy posted this a high school in Texas. Uh, just is opening up a It's a high school that's got thirteen hundred students. Okay, so it's not
a very big high school. A ten thousand seat, thirty five million dollars football skadium, complete with luxury suites, two levels, you know, an upper deck and a or deck artificial surface in Texas. I didn't see where this high school is. But Bred McMurphy again kicking the PAC twelve when they're down, says, there's pictures of this UH of this facility, says sources expansion target to join the pack four. So we're gonna hear a lot of
that. There's gonna be jokes like that going on all the time. More on that winder Winder Franco I think the Dominican Republic said that their investigation into his alleged relationship with a minor has been handled by a division specializing in miners and gender violence in the Dominican Republic. This sounds really bad. It sounds really bad. He maybe one of those things where we don't see him again. Pretty good, he's only like twenty two. Yeah, he's a young
guy. Yeah, it's pretty good talent too. But you and then finally for those you know, a number of times we brought this up that how big a deal academics was to Arizona and the pactice going through this whole thing. Well, the Princeton Review has named Arizona one of the best colleges in the country for a lot of different reasons. They ranked UH number five. Actually the rating is where the scale of eight ninety nine is the highest rating
you can get. They got a ninety eight on fire safety, ninety five on sustainability to eighty six on quality of life, eighty five admissions, eighty one financial aid, seventy seven on academics. It's just a whole bunch of stuff, but again a reputation that Arizona is established and really want. It's very important to the school. And I think they've improved on one thing that there was concerned after that's your shooting safe safe safety, that's that's been stepped
up of it. There a lot of a lot of things. I mean, bad thing had to happen for that to take place, but you feel like they've they've really made try to make some strike, you know, for somebody who's got a daughter still still on campus over there. I'm glad to hear that, dude. So okay, all right, man, that's all I got what you got? No, No, that's good. We'll come back with PJ because we already yep, PJ. Brown, we're gonna be
talking women's women sports at the of eight. Things getting started here in the next few days with soccer getting started tomorrow, volleyball gets started pretty quick. So we'll talk to PJ back. What's going on. Well, we can inspect this fall to see you around you good, love it gone man.
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to On on the Ball. Here Fox Sports Fortune fifty. I'm Steve. He's jakenzos Now and if we have Pete J. Brown from the Arizona Daily Star, we happen to catch you by the pool. Where are you at? Well, no, it's a little too hot to be by the pool. I am having a vacation right this week. Yeah, I took a I was in New York a couple of weeks ago for my nephew's wedding. So well, so you're getting ready for what's ahead. It's nine months of no time off, right, That's it. So I'm grabbing all all the
time off I can right now. So what's what's going to keep you busy in the fall. We've got We've mentioned your number of things going on, but what what'll you be doing? Oh? Well, obviously women's basketball is my main focus. But this year we're switching things up a little bit and I'll be joining a little more general assignment. So I'm going to pitch in on football last year. I yeah, I'll probably be writing maybe an extra feature here and there, or like a sidebar on a game store on a
game day or something that's good. That's cool, very cool. Okay, Well, let's talk about basketball then, because you know, all the conversation obviously around the Big twelve deal has been you know, about football, men's basketball. But you know Pac twelve had one of the best basketball conferences, if not the best basketball conference in the country. Have you put some thought into what this does to that conference and what it's going to look like for
Arizona down the road. Yeah, it's gonna be a completely different. First of all, I do need to plug something. I wrote a column that was in Saturday's paper about just about what's going on with the move to the Big twelve and how it affects women's basketball and how they would have basically, if they would have sold women's basketball as a separate media rights deal a long time ago with PAC twelve, probably wouldn't up broken up. But everybody can
read that on the website. But for Arizona, what it looks like is it will be opposite of what it is now. So every weekend in the Pac twelve you get beat up, right, you play everybody's tough, even if it was a su last year and they only won one game, or cal who's only won four games. I think in the last four years, there's still tough outs. There is no gimme in the Pac twelve for women's basketball. Now when you flip to the Big twelve, it's not like that.
There are some really good teams. You're looking at Baylor, Iowa State, although now with Ashley Jones having graduated and moved on from Iowa State, we don't know what that program is going to look like going forward. But there are some decent teams and then there's you know, five or six teams said that are not And so what's gonna happen is you're going to walk into the Big twelve, and I'm going to say this right out, Arizona is
going to compete. Not only compete, but they could win the tournament title, the Big Twelve tournament title, and the conference title every few years. They're going to be right up there. There's not gonna get Danford up there
to swat them down. They're going to be one of the They already are a top program in the Big twelve in the Pac twelve, but in the Big twelve, they're just gonna they're it's gonna be different because they will dominate to some degree, which will then give them a higher seed in the NCAA tournament, which then makes possibly their path to getting back to the final four a little bit easier than being a fifth seed or a sixth seed or last
year were they in a seed or something then, and that makes that difficult. So it's flipped because right now in the PAC twelve, they have the competition week in, week out to prepare them to a tournament. That's always been the thought. So so let me ask you, PJ, given your theory, your thoughts on that, is it a better move for them? You know, would it be better to be in a tough conference and kind of finish three fourth whatever it is, or become one of the big dogs
in another conference? You know, that's a good that's a good thing. You can pick either way. I don't know what's better, except for the fact that would you want to win conference tournaments and titles all the time and get a better seeds so possibly you could make more and more final fours. I don't know. That's probably a lot of people would probably pick that.
A lot of fans would probably pick that, although you know, knowing that every week you have somebody coming in here who's not an easy out right like Oregon's going to come in and then Oregon State you play on Sunday, and then currently the way it is, it's like, you know, USC and
then UCLA. I know they were going away, but still, you know, you have those those you had to be ready Friday and you had to be ready Sunday, and that does prepare you, and it makes you a tougher, you know, you got to be tough, a lot tougher. I can't say one is better. It's it's a gimme. I mean, it's everybody has their own opinion on that, what they like better. It's just what it's going to be. Overall for Arizona, I do believe that
I moved to the Big twelve. It is a good thing, and I think that it will raise their profile and certain things you all get to. I'll get to recruit in different areas that that in general could help them all. Though some programs, like a DAS program, she recruits everywhere, so maybe she'll get more into Texas where she hasn't. She's only had ka race from Texas before, you know. But but for in general, for the
school, it does raise the profile. I think. You know, Steve and I were talking earlier in the show about that whole aspect of you know, which is better, right, being in a conference that you kind of win or regularly challenged, or being in a tougher conference like like the women
have been in. You know, and you know, one of the points that we talked about, what, you know, does being in like the men's PAC twelve conference, you know, since you don't have a hard game every game, does that get you ready enough for the nc DOUABAA tournament when all of a sudden you're facing a TCU or a Houston or Texas Tech or
something like that that can be really physical and beat you up. Or is it better to be you know whatever, what the air's on women were doing where you've got Stanford, Oregon. You see all these teams that are all you know, again, nobody's an easy out. It kind of just depends. And I you know, hearing you talk about what the Big twelve is, it's like the women are going to be stepping into a situation similar to
what the men have been in all this time. And you know, the interesting thing is, had you asked me a year ago, I would have said, oh, of course you'd want to play in the PAC twelve. They're the best conference and this is what you want. But then you look at LSU this year. We talked all year like I vote for an AP top twenty five, and I didn't know where to place them because they played like two games, right, They played South Carolina once during the season and
they played somebody else and that was it. Other they did not have a tough non conference schedule, and in the conference they just sort of rolled over. I just didn't know who they were. And then look at it. Then they went to and they won the whole thing. And so then you think, well, if if you can do that, then looks so bad, right, Like it's like maybe you should it. Maybe it doesn't matter you had if you only play like two really really tough teams. I don't
know. So of course they have a great coach and Kim Malti who can get her team prepared. But you know, Adea Barnes could do the same thing. Yeah, so so let me ask you. I don't think you've written this, uh, you haven't pinned down idea right to get her thoughts. I don't think we all have all talked to anybody to get to know they have a break right now? Yeah? Yeah, okay, Well just knowing her, how you know her wich? What do you think she'd say?
She's a competitor and she just wants to I don't think she cares who's in front of her. She just wants to go out and fight and win. And I really don't think that she had to be way off base, But I think she just wants to play games, and she wants to get to the NC Double A tournament and take big runs. And I think that's what she wants to do. I think it's more about what she does with
her program, right. Her vision always has been get to the NC double A tournament, get to the final, or win championships, right, whether it's league or national championship, that's what her vision has been. And so I think that she's more focused on her team, her program, the culture improving, and the skilled development to get her kids put them in the right position to do it's the best they can do and live up to their potential. And I think that's all she cares about. Let's talk about that a
little bit. They've already got an injury that to a player that was expecting to contribute. What's kind of been going on with them this summer? Yeah, I think that's a tough injury to Montean do she I'm talking to the evaluators at ESPN. She was. She's a very versatile player. She's the
type of player who could come in and she can do a lot. So not only is she a great defender, she comes from a really great program and Centennial and Las Vegas where another wild gat came from, by the way, Sam Thomas, right, but and she started built like Sam with long arms, and then I think helps her be a good defender. But she can also she's got good court vision, she passes the ball really well as
well as scoring and all of that. So that's a tough loss. And it's a tough loss for her not being able to play this year because and she even came in early last semester and gray shirt, so having to wait another year is tough for everyone. But you know, I think that with the players that Idea has returning and the players that they've added, whether they're freshman or transfers, I do think that this team's going to be again a
tough out. I think they're going to be a fun team to watch, a lot of really tough, blue collar type of some players who have that sort of dog attitude. Some players who were overlooked and some players who were highly ranked in their freshman class, and Braya Cunningham and and Jada Williams who just want to go out and play and win. And Jade is going to be a great point guard. She's she talked about somebody who has court vision.
She's gonna be truly the first real point guard that Idea of Arnes has had since Lucy Alonso. Aery McDonald was their point guard, and Aery can do anything, so that's a whole different category. But but Jada, I think is going to be really good. I also think that it's just gonna be. This team's gonna mesh. I think they came together. I think from what I'm hearing is that they're a really close knit team, and I think that really helps. And we'll help this team do whatever they're gonna do
this year. We have a couple of minutes here, so you you track down area as well, because I think I saw a story somewhere what's be up to? And then how was that? Yeah? I went to the Barkley Center in New York in Brooklyn to watch Airy play the New York Liberty and she had just been back about four games. She was still wearing a brace. She had torn her labroom and her shoulder or left shoulder, which is her shooting arm, and she looked really good. Now her SHOT's a
little flat and a little off, and she's working on that. The braces came off, I think a couple of days after that game. And for Airy, and what I'm seeing is when she's in the lineup, her team makes a run or keeps a big lead or whatever it happens to be, and when she's on the bench, they have a little bit of a problem keeping that going. So she really impacts the game, as we all knew.
And afterwards I asked one of her teammates, Alicia Gray, about that, and she said, yeah, when Airy's on the floor, things happen. So she's come back and she hasn't been consistent with her shot or just isn't taking her shot and referring maybe more to her teammates, but she's I think she's in a good place and she was happy to be back on the court. Let me tell you real real quick. We're got about thirty seconds.
Have you heard from Sam Thomas and what she's going to be up to Yeah, I just saw I have a call out, no doubt to Sam because I just saw that JCC has a league and a fall for kids, and Sam somehow going to be involved. I don't exactly know what that involvement is, but I think Sam's going to be in Two Sons and September and Autist. So watch I mean September and October, So watch out for that. Yeah, she is two Sons favorite daughter. Thanks, thanks PJ for
filling in. Thanks a whole bunch of PJ. Take the rest of the week off and we'll catch you in the fall. Tell your boss we said, it's yeah, exactly, thanks much. Yeah, Brett, give her, give her a break here. You know, it's funny that that conversation about you know, the you know, the women's basketball league, you know, in the Big twelve, and now that kind of it does it flips over now? Right now? You know they're in a league that hardly could
be you know a little easier. You know, how well does that prepare you for the kind you know what what Idia's goals are, which are to make runs in the NC Double A tournament. Because we just had that conversation about the man, you don't know until you know. I still I don't know. We'll talk about it when we come back. All right, let's take our It's a last break, isn't It's take our last break. We'll be back. We'll take your calls. Five tiers. There are four,
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six SNY for forty you know. I wanted to continue the conversation. We talked about the top five college basketball games, uh column rivalries or whatever you look forward to once uh once the new Big twelve is formed. We talked about Arizona Kansas with I mean, hands down the easiest. The other ones on the list though, Texas and Kentucky and the sec Yeah, I mean,
you know, Texas pretty good. I don't know, you know, yeah yeah yeahs The number two top right to rivalry UCLA in Indiana, which is in interesting, right, I mean Indiana versus who I'm sorry Ucla. Still yeah, that is two blue bloods. Yeah, but a five I'm not talking to you anymore. Then another one with Texas Texas and Texas A and M getting back together. Yeah, although how good is Texas and that's that's that's it's kind of if you want, right, Yeah, it's just
the rivalry. Yeah, but it's but yeah, you're right, Texas A and M hasn Utah and b y U back together in the big bar what's that when the barlo doors? But I know, yeah that well, you know Utan utan and and uh and By you've been back in the same conference for the first time since they were in the whack together. Yeah, you know West. No, it should be fun all the way around. And Averzon with b By you again, you'll have fun with that. You'll get
crap for that too, I know, we'll see. I think it's gonna be a lot of fun most football and basketball. Yeah, well again, and you know, we talked about this at the at the top. Interesting to see how they're going to structure, you know, the scheduling, particularly for football, right who we're gonna play every year and then who you're going to play on a rotating basis sixteen teams, Now you're gonna playing nine games. This might be a dumb question, and I'm asking you because I don't
know the answer, and maybe I do, but I haven't checked. As you look, as you look at this schools in the Pac twelve with Arizona laterally or or moving up USC Athletic, you know USC. Right, we're taking football, not basketball, U C. L A. Washington, Oregon. That's about it. Yeah, that's about it. That are above that are clearly above them. So and they're kind of in the middle, right, whether it's five, six to nine, whatever. Okay, So now
I'm gonna put you in you in the Big twelve laterally laterally yeah? Who? Yeah, I mean who? Who? Do I think our teams equal to Arizona or Arizona equal to them that you move into them, while the kind of middle of the pack teams, like who are the top ones I think right now Oklahoma State or Oklahoma State, you know, but they were not they were terrible last year. You know, Houston has been, but Houston has been in the in the Yeah, I don't know, I don't
know how much you say about Texas Tech. Everybody says Texas Tech is gonna be really good this year, but who knows. But even just some perception, even on just perception wise, Steve, I think Arizona is on a par with pretty much everybody who Okay, that's what you mean. Okay,
No, I think I think that. And that's what I've been saying is that, you know, tc is really good and they got to National Championship Game last year, but are they Are they going to sustain that, you know, like like a like a USC or an Oregon or something like that. I don't know that they are. I have that right, no. But but my point being, you can't look at TCU and say, oh,
they're the USC of the Big twelve. Of course, I don't think you can say they're not even like they're not even the Oregon or the Washington schools. Are they predicted to win this year? Because they've lost a lot of guys, people are predicting Texas Texas Tech to win. Really Okay, that's not sexy? Yeah, come on, really is it? Kansas is gonna better, right because they had a pretty good year last year. Right? That league is not in football, it's not literally, I think it's
almost a while. Wait a minute, I'm trying to blank on this. Are in Oklahoma and Texas still in the league this year? The yeah, they're in they're in the league this year, and then they go twenty twenty four. So obviously those two guys got to be the favorites. But a lot of people are talking about Texas Tech. They're gonna be really damn Yeah
No, but I was talking more when they moved. When they moved, right when those two teams are gone, I don't think I feel like I feel like Arizona is a lot like all the other teams in the league. Oklahoma State doesn't scare the crap out of me when it comes to football. No, you know, I think there was a time that was YU does not see doesn't you see you stand? Texas Tech, Kansas, Kansas State,
UH, West Virginias. None of those teams. Do I sit there and say they are hands down better programs in Arizona, especially now that they're Arizona's going to come up right, come up realistically either or not. They're not there yet. But I wins six or seven games this year, maybe let's say win seven games, get to a ball game, whatever happens in the bowl game, just they go seven and five, get to a ball game. I think going into next year, you kind of go why not,
Yeah, yeah, why not? And get better? Right, get better? You don't know what you're through, what you're gonna see, But I think they'll fit right. In basketball wise, you know, you have the elites. You have Kansas, Baylor, maybe, but Arizona's Arizona.
It's gonna be one two in Kansas and Arizona. From the time as Oregon got really good with all the Nike mind and stuff like that, there were four schools in the way of Arizona, you know, at least from in football from a recruiting standpoint, Let's take this call, all run the ernine the ball. Hey, j this is done. How are you guys doing?
What's up? Hey? Not too much? I think on the football conversation, I think what we're going to be going into is like something that I've said in the past where I'd like Arizona to be in that it kind of in a seven, eight, nine wins and then every once in a while they pull off a ten eleven wins season. I think a lot of the schools in the Big twelve that are there now waiting for us. I
think they're in that same, that same kind of boat. So I think that the Big Twelve could turn out to be like a like a round robin where teams teams will ebb and flow up and down as you go, and the competition is going to be is definitely going to be there, But I don't think we're gonna have uh like the SEC with Alabama and Georgia, which I don't think is good anyway. Yeah, I think there's a lot of times there's a lot of conversation about that. Is that you know, of
all the leagues, the Big Twelve has the most parody. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I totally agree, And I don't think and I don't think that parody is going to bring them down because you know, you're gonna have to go through some wars just to get to ball eligibility, and if the league does well during the ball season, that only makes makes them all look better. It's like, hey, I don't care where are you come from, you don't want to play anybody from the Big Twelve, right right?
No, I agree, I just think that you know, again we mentioned TCU. TCU is not going to become USC or even Oregon or Washington. They're having to run right now. They got to the National Championship game. You know, really good program right now. But is that sustainable to
where the point they're that every single year? I don't think. I don't think the Big twelve will let them do that because there's too many too as you say, too many teams in the Big twelve like Oklahoma State, Arizona, Uh you know b YU would that can jump up and have a really good year and beat you. And that's one thing that I didn't even factor
in was the BYU factory that makes it that much tougher. And another thing, I really honestly see Oregon and Washington going to the Big ten turning into Oregon State and Washington State because the two the two times that those two schools got into the playoff and and and or got into the National Championship Game,
what happened? They got smoked because they looked like JV teams. You know, I talked to but I talked to a buddy of mine who's big UCLA guy, and and I said, so, how how how are you guys feeling about going to the Big ten? He goes, We're going to get our assets kicked. He knows it. Like Oregon last year was good, but they were West Coast good, right, you would see it's the same way. They're entitled. They're gonna go over there and they're gonna get smacked
around and they're gonna be an eight and four team in no time. Yeah, well, they're they're The game's gonna have to change for them. They're gonna have to be tougher. They are the Arizona basketball of football. It's a more rare. It's a finesse. It's a finesse will beat you by outscoring you. It doesn't work anymore. It doesn't work over there. And
where is Oregon going to get their big guys? Right, They're not gonna be pulling from from the Midwest because the recruited thing is going to be Why are you going to go out there to come back here and get smoked in front of your friends and family? Yeah no, I hear you, I hear you. You know, and the and the Big twelve. I think in all aspects. And you know what's funny, Jay, I don't know, You're couldn't help me out with this. When Arizona winn or the Pac
ten. It was seventy seventy eight. That may that made me. I don't know why that made a deep I have a deep set at hate and fear, like every you're you're breaking up a little bit so beaten us? Yeah, you're you're you're you broke up a little bit. There. You have a deep seated fear of what Texas Tech. Oh, I don't know if it's history or what. Well, we grew up at a time when
the Texas Tech game with Arizona was a big game. It was like, oh man, we're playing Texas Tech and and you know it was was it because they were from Tech, because they and they were in the Southwest Conference and so they were you know, they were a big deal. You know, everyone was in the whack and so yeah, it became a big deal. But we were never in the same conference with them. They weren't in the whack with US or Border conference. They were in the Southwest and it
was I remember that we played him all the time. We played him all the time, but they weren't in our league and it was a big deal whenever Arizona play though, same with saying it was hey, I remember Arizona beat San Diego State one year and it was like the biggest win of the year because they went up to San Diego played him in the in their stadium up a Jack Murray what became Jack Murphy Stadium, and Arizona beat him was like seventy six or seventy seven, and it was a It was a huge
deal that Arizona beat San Diego State. But that's where Arizona was at the time when they made that jump to the big to the Pac twelve or pack. Then first two years Arizona got his face kicked in regularly. But but then you know, and as I think we talked about this yesterday day before, when Larry Smith got here, it changed quickly and Arizona all of a sudden was competitive in the Pac ten. Let me ask both of you, how done? Let me ask you because I'm not from here. So Tony
Mason came here. He got Arizona in trouble, but pretty good coach. I was never sold on him. He got Arizona to a bowl game in seventy nine that they but they went, they went six and five and got into it. They snuck into the guest of all but I remember we followed them and went to the USC game that year in seventy nine, Charles White was on that team Heisman Trophy year. They kicked the crap out of here.
Arizona didn't belong on the same field with them. Two years later they go back over there parkas Allen's on that team and Arizona Beazza with who with him because the coach with sith Yeah, Tom Tuncliff, Jay Dobbins, you know, uh Ricky Haney and that team and they beat and they beat you, USC ranked number one. So it took some time. Loll roy. Done, thanks for they appreciate it. Done. Know what we also need to do is we need to take the PAC twelve and net work with us.
That part of it was good. I loved it. I loved getting every game, So that was good. I could see. I watched all the baseball games, I watched a lot of softball, you know, picked up some volleyball and everything else. I think, I think, I hope, I hope we have a way of watching all the non revenue sports. Yeah. Part of that's going to depend on what happens to the PAC twelve. If they can, you know, sell that off to the Big twelve or something. Hey, Don, thanks as much. We gotta run,
appreciate the call. Thank you guys. Thanks for the Don's always got some good stuff. I feel like I'm talking to my brother who grew up with me because we experienced all the same things exactly exactly. But you know, but he I mean, that's a good point. It's you know, as you were saying, you know, the football is gonna look. It's gonna look. So you're gonna feel like Arizona's got a shot. You're not overwhelmed, right, You're not gonna feel like you walk on the field with the
USC and no, they've got better play. Yeah, it's a great move. I think it's a great move. Okayn't by fast today? It did go by perfect. All right, We're gonna be back tomorrow. We're gonna have Bruce Bruce Pascoal is gonna join us from from Abu Dhabi. Not sure what time, but going the show and we'll hear from Bruce Pasco and we'll bring some more in, some more great guests as well. So see you tomorrow. Bey,