This is Eye on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez sound Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions katz R TUCSA at iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jagan's awas. We got our guy Ryan in with us today. Well,
and of course Adam Adam is running the show. Adams here, don't ke forget your short timer though I don't know he's got one more day, short time. Don't screw it up, Adam. I won't. I won't. It doesn't matter because if you do screw it up, what are you gonna do? Right? What? Exactly? All right? Welcome everybody. It's Tuesday. I think it's Tuesday. A lot of stuff going on again as always is always, which is good for us. We have a pretty good
show today. Yesterday the show was pretty good with the Snoop Dogg. I did get all the podcasts up, didn't put you know, all the commentary on him. But if you want to go listen to the past shows, then you missed Wednesday Thursday, Friday or yesterday. There they are all now up on our podcast page. Oh the just the commons. Just you know how I put like a summary of the show. I didn't do that. Okay, that was just what is it? Just a guess or the whole
thing? The whole thing? Each show is up, So the whole show, okay? Cool? You know, for if you want to listen to our guests, you know, you can go to a quarter after each hour and listen to the guests. You don't need to listen to us. Yeah, okay, okay, Uh the basketball stoff going out with you a basketball All of a sudden, I'll be in breaking news and we can hold for that, right sure? Who do we have today? Jay? Well? We uh? This weekend the nation, the Southerner's on a chapter of the
National Football Foundation, is holding their annual golf tournament. It's out at Alkenquistador, which is the Alkhinkeisador golf course that's up in Oral Valley off of locking you out a drive, not over by the hotel anyways, it's a it's a they're one of the big events of the year, big fundraiser for them. Nimur hasse uh he's the principal at Mike Come Mountain, long time a
high school football coach here in town. He's the chair of the golf tournament for the Southern Arizona Chapter, and so he's gonna come in and talk a little bit about the tournament. I think he got a couple of forces left to sell, so maybe he can talk you into doing that when he comes on the show here in about three twenty and then in the second hour. We've been trying to get him, but he's been a busy dude since ena
football season, recruiting and all that kind of stuff. But Justin Spears from the Arizon Daily Stars college football beat writer, and you have a football beat writer for the Star, will pick his brain about all the things that are still going on. And the transfer portal seems to never end. Even though the portal is now closed, you can't get in it anymore, there's still
a lot of activity there as well as there is in basketball. But we'll get Justin's impressions at spring ball, what's going on in the transfer portal, impressions of Brent Brandon, et cetera, etc. So just I'll join us at about four twenty. Okay, good to get some updates on what over's going on. Obviously, he is his own show in the morning, right he does, Yeah, he's he's on with Ali Farhan on that other station in ESPN fourteen ninety They do the morning thing. So that's why we don't
mind talking to him. We're talking about their show. It's a race to see if you can get Snoop Dogg on the show first. But I'm figuring we're kind of the underdogs in that, and that all least the chair of the Arizona Bowl and probably had something to do with getting Snoop Dogg here. So I don't know if if it's a huge upset if we get Snoop Dogg on our show before he does ten to one. Don't put any money out there, don't put any money on us. Yeah, well, we're like
minus a thousand on that or something. I mean plus a thousand. You call that dead money to us, Yes, exactly, Okay, Okay, I want us going on. It's going on. Tennis. Men's tennis goes next to right the round they're at Columbia. I think on Friday. I don't remember we said Friday or Saturday. I'm gonna check on women's golf right now because they they're in the Las Vegas Regional. I think they're playing as we speak, So we'll see if we can find out what's going on there.
Baseball as a game tonight against a su A nonconference game. Yeah up at A. Did you see there was a little back and forth there. No, I guess one of the players u A players. I hope I get this read ken. Don't know who said that. We okay, we hope to play them and hope to meet them by a thousand or one hundred. I don't get so the uh so, the uh the issue baseball coach, Uh, he's the pro former issue guy, former an MLB guy,
says, okay, bring it on, let's see what happens. Yeah, that's funny thing about it, didn't they you They get snookered by good uh Grand Canyon second time last week? Yeah, the twenty four whatever it was, that whatever, and then they come back and sweep. The only thing that gives them in trouble is great. You hope you don't run into him in a super regional or something like that, right, because they've done it twice to them now. Yeah, Yeah, but they can handle their pack,
the pack twelve. Yeah, yeah, yep. Yeah, women's golf is going on as we speak. They they're done for the day. Uh they Arizona has dropped to seventh place. There are three but they're only three strokes out. There were two strokes out of fifth place yesterday. There are three strokes out of fifth place after the day. But they got to get got to bounce up into the five spot to get into the national tournament. It's still Arkansas, Purdue, you c LA, Florida State, and Baylor.
Baylor's at my at plus two. Oklahoma is a plus three, Arizona's a plus five. So Arizona's gotta gotta move it up a little bit. They were only one under part to day. They gotta they gotta scratch and clown get there, get their stuff up if they want to make the national tournament. Yeah, okay, a lot of stuff going to Actually, boxing wise, did you see the fight? You probably don't see the fight? Nah, a good fight with uh with Canelo? But did not? Uh?
Was that the one where the guy tested positive? Different? That was that was a week before Ryan Garcia. Yeah, now he wants his second test to be retested or whatever. It is. Uh, then we'll see what happens with that he had he had lost a lot before. He didn't make weight, right, didn't make weight, couldn't win the title. Uh, and then he beats the guy surprisingly Yeah, and then now this so it's very weird, but it's very boxing. I get my I get my
drug up. Boxers confused, Well, it's understandable that happens. It happens. Well, it happened with our guy, Oscar Oscar. Well, dere's a a few years ago and he's coming back to now, so we'll see what happens with him. We also want to try to get the UFC guy. He's from u Sawa or some down down south, maybe not in Rio Rico or somewhere. He got beat maybe three weeks ago. Uh. And what's our first question? What the hell are you doing? Hell? Why
are you doing this? Yeah? Yeah, well yeah, why why would you want to? But okay, go ahead, go ahead and get punched in the face for a profession. Yeah, just tough life. Tough life. They think they think you're doing roofs at one hundred and ten is tough.
You know. I know if I told you that I was in Vegas once and the place house saying wait, wait, wait what hell a while back and there I was in it, and I was at a hotel where staying in place where there were apparently a bunch of UFC there's a UFC event that weekend, and a bunch of them were happened to just be staying where I was staying. It was a hill grand vacation, so it wasn't like, you know, one of the big casino hotels, so it's kind of
a smaller place. And these guys are just you know, around the lobby all the time. And I looked at these guys and I thought, why would you step in into a ring with any one of these guys where where where their intent is to kill you? Well, why would you do that? I just it just made no sense to me, and it still doesn't. But I mean, they they're scary. Yeah, yeah, they're scary looking dudes, even without their mushroom ears what do you call it, cauliflowers.
Yeah, And they looked like they would punch you in the face if you just look at them cross eight or something. Yeah, Well they probably do. How do you become a fighter like that? It's gotta be there's got to be something a little wrong. They're not like a choir. Boys. Come on, I mean even boxers, okay, boxers. You know you thought you gotta be a little different to be a boxer. But the the UFC guys are just I don't know, man, I'm too pretty to
be a box right. Moisturized, you know, I keep that, keep it to myself. I'm a little creeped out. Now, I'll give you my moisturize. You might look, I'd rather know. I love I love my you know, my natural bronze. Look, that's bronze. Was a little chocolate. Okay, like chocolate. So n b A Hey, your your nuggets are gone. Man. They're in trouble game the Gonzales curse. They're in big trouble, you know. I mean it was two at home. Yeah, you can't do that there. I mean, Jamal's not playing
well. Minnesotan't even have Gobert last night. Yeah, well, the thing was Minnesota's playing really well. You said Denver's not playing well or Jamal it's because the other team's playing out of their mind and what ja the court? So he's gonna get he's gonna get suspended. Yeah, but he's the game, right, Virginia get suspended for a game for doing that, probably you've got to set a precedent. So yeah, yeah, I think he will
be. But yeah, they're in trouble. The series goes back to Minnesota now, and I think the smart bet last night would have been to pick Denver, not just for go Bear, but because they needed to win last right, they needed to win and they didn't even come close. Yeah. In fact, what's his name? There was another guy? That guy, Aaron Gordon. Gordon hasn't looked good in this whole series. Well, he's trying to do the impossible. Stop Edwards, right, he was the he
was the lebron stopper. Right now he can't stop Edwards. Tough task. I know, that's very tell you what he's you know, you're hearing more and more and people are always comparing somebody to Michael Jordan, right, but you're there's start, you know, there's people starting to be like really serious about it, not just okay, here's a you know, he's another guy.
I like, you don't even Reggie Miller. He kind of he kind of qualified and said, you know, we're always we're always trying to find the next MJ YadA, he said, but this guy just with a lot of the types of things that he does that he'd be particularly pointing out to the fadeaway jumper is that. He said, that's a Michael Jordan move. And and I'm like I and so I've been paying attention to, you know, highlights that you're you're coming across social media and saying you see, you
can see it. Now? Is he as good as him? Yet? No? Is he going to be as good as him? We don't know, but there are you can see when people say that their similarity is already And he's the best athlete you could argue in the NBA. He's got that kind of spunk, the attitude. Did you see the movie that he made with I think he did with Adam Sandler. Yeah, it was pretty good movie. It was campy, you know, camp be low budget, but he was pretty cute good Ye, it was good art in his role.
He was like nineteen twenty years old at the time. Yeah, yeah, and probably really not really known at the time. Do you know what college you went to? Yeah, Georgia, Georgia and they sucked, and they sucked. They always sucked because they had the coach tell me he's doing the CBS Tom Crean, that tells you how bad he was, that it's never been good in basketball, right exactly. So here's this guy from Georgia and it says, how could he not be any good with this guy on your
roster? Yeah so wow, wow, okay, but yeah, you know, but again for you know, for who admittedly a non NBA guy, to be paying attention to this guy, I think it says, you know that he's actually there's something there that's catching. I agree, he's got he's got the marketability to be the face of the league. That is only what twenty two. Yeah, So when they talk about age j especially with Boswell and all the other age, when you're playing this game, it really doesn't
make a difference. If you can play, you can play. You either got the talent you don't. We talked about it, not to scapegoat Bosball when he was seven, seventeen I think he was seventeen. Oh, he's only seventeen. He played out of his mind. Yeah, when he was eighteen he lost his mind again. And he's at seventeen. He's probably been playing organized basketball for ten years. Yes, of course, and this is what they do. Ye, it's like it gets me, It gets me,
kind of makes me laugh a little. Where these guys play five games and five days, they're twenty two years old. What else are you going to be doing? Yeah, they're used to this, go to the boss. We didn't need ice packs, we need the drugs. We'd need shots in our legs to get past. Look, I pulled a hamstring watching my son play the other day, all right to my point, thank you very
much. I went to his you know, his his league basketball game up at Sporting Chants and I, you know, I pulled a hand to get up the stairs, just pulled the hammer, just sitting there trying to sit down, like my hamstrings were hurting. So this is what these guys do. I mean, there's too many games. Oh, come on, they
get paid millions to do it. The patient sho should survive. Yeah, yeah, no, And look and when when you see I put in the work and that and that's the thing that that you know, if you want to separate yourself, and what separated Jordan is nobody worked harder than he did. Right, He was the hardest working guy. And if you didn't work as hard as he did, well, he was on your ass. That's what Kobe was. That's what Kobe was working for. And he hated it
when the guys wouldn't come, wouldn't work. It was hard. And if that, you know, if you want to, if you want to tell you as Steve's secret sauce, that's the secret sauce. And especially in that sport, you know, because the individual skills are so important. If somebody's working harder than you, then they probably gon't end up being better than I'll give you a perfect example, and we covered him. I covered him.
You saw him, Colid. Yeah, I mean, the guy would have been fantastically good, lasted a long time in the league had he worked as much as Damon. He was a little acadaisical and used his talent, you know, just wanted to you know, flash the talent and you know, didn't do all the other pieces that come with it, no, no doubt. And in fact, Damon was the one who said if he would have worked as hard as I would, he would have been playing forever. Yeah,
because he was stoppable. Yeah he was. He was. You know, there's still people who say that he could have scored every time he had the ball if he chose to. And then the thing is he didn't chose to. Well, he had a tough defender. He was defended pretty much every game. Yeah, exactly exactly, but you know, but again a guy like that, you know, but that's why you say, you know, the great ones have all the parts sight, whether it's the mental aspect of it, the want, that desire, all that, that's it.
The first thing you say is mental. I mean you have to want it and then continue to want it right for right, even when you're up there. Okay, let's go, We'll get all right, Let's take a break. Neimer Hasse coming up talking about the National Football Foundation golf tournament and just some of the other things that they do here with camps and scholarships and all that kind of stuff. So we'll have Neimer Hasse coming up or after the
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and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen to fifty. Hey, welcome back to IYE on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jagin Zawiz. Now on the phone, we have Nimar Hassey from the National Football Foundation. Nimer, how are you good? How are you guys today? We're doing fine, We're doing good. Nimer, appreciate you coming on. I know you got your big event this weekend, a golf tournament out at Alconquistador, But I want to talk to you a little bit about
that and some of the stuff that's going on. So first, tell us about the tournament. When we talked yesterday, I think you said you've still got a couple of foursomes you'd like to sell. But tell us a little bit about the tournament. What the money does. Yeah, so this is for the National Football Foundation Southern Arizona Chapter. I'm one of the vice presidents and Tim Kish is our president, who's a great leader for us. The
golf tournament is thirty four foursomes. We have room for two more full fourth
themes. The funding care of our charge as an organization in Southern Arizona, trying to make football better, trying to make connections with youth football, to high school football, to the University of Arizona, and the funding helps with the community outreach, but it also helps with our Scholar Awards, and which we've been presenting the spring to different players around the city who have earned the Scholar Award through their leadership, community service, academics, and of course their
play on the field. And that's with the funding. It's our one and only main fundraiser. Everything else is more outreach and support to the community with recognizing leaders through football. So i'd been involved. I think both of us have been involved for a long time. How difficult is it to kind of vet all the that's not the right word, but come up with a ten or twelve, whatever number you come up with, because there's so many quality
kids out there. Yeah, and you know, it's good process that they that we've all established. I'm not on the committee because I work at a high school and so you know, just by default, I can't be on it. But the people who score the applications have a rubric and they come to consensus, you know, based on the scoring system. I mean there
are some that are close. We don't have a set number either. We take the best and if one year we're giving six away and one year we're given twelve away, that's just the way it will be because we want to recognize the students to deserve it. So these athletes and student athletes, well
these guys are really student athletes, right, They get scholarships. How much of these scholarships and as you said, it's all funded by this golf tournament, right, well, we have we have different This is our main fundraiser, but we do have donations that come out from the year and we use that too. Some of this, some of the golf tournament money will go to operational costs for community outreach. We have like a senior showcase that we put on. We do a youth football clinic, We have a seven on
seven that we partner with another group. So we're we're doing many community outreach events. And then the golf tournament funds helps the scholar awards for sure, but then other things that we want to do in Tucson. Also, girls flag football is a big thing, and we're trying to support tournaments and partnering
with you of A on that as well. But yet, I mean, it's these student athletes that are recognized are not only top football players, but they have the academics to go with it, and they also do the leadership and community service, which is very important to the well rounded student. It's funny because the flag the women's of girls flag football has become very usual the last two years, I think two three years though, and I think it's
gonna be Olympic sport here coming up soon. Right. So I'm sure you've got a lot of us from that or was that an internal thing that you guys had to realize, well, this is going to be a big deal later. I think it's a request. It's out there, but not really request directly. Does. I think that's more internal. You know, a
lot of the high schools in southern Arizona. If we could move, if flag football or if the girls flag football ever moves to the spring, it would be a lot easier because two son schools don't have the facilities to put it in. So maybe NFF could be the driving leader and getting tournaments at least down here to get that recognition. Okay, so when we wanted some of the other stuff. But on the golf tournaments this Saturday, it's at at elkin Kisador, which is not the by the hotel, but over there
on locking down a Drive. There are tea sponsorships, whole sponsorships you can still get. There's still two foursomes left. It's you t off at seven thirty, Is that right? Yeah? We t off at seven thirty and we'll have a great day. We have probably I know we have over one hundred prizes for the Raffle and the Silent Auction and it'll be, you know,
just a great time. And my goal this year is to raise thirty thousand dollars for the Organization for Scholar Awards and other community outreach programs that we do. We're in good shape, but you know, selling the two forces would be fantastic for us. Okay. So now one of the some of the other great things that you've really started doing over the last few years has been a lot of these clinics. I guess you had a coaching clinic over
the weekend. You've got the you've got the showcase. When when is that showcase? Whereas athletes, you know, can't have an opportunity to to to be seen in front of coaches and stuff from some of the smaller schools who are looking for quote unquote diamonds in the rough. Yeah, it's in mid February every year and we hosted in Phoenix. It's a statewide senior showcase. Tim Kish is the lead on that and he he's real passionate about that because
it provides opportunities scholarships. Kids sign on that day in some in some regards, and it just gives another opportunity for the non D one student to have a chance to play. How has that been? How successful has that gone? It's been been great. I know they're getting scholarship money. I believe
the numbers over four million dollars that was raised just recently. And and that's just helping students, right, I mean, that's what our job is, just to create other pathways to the goal, to their goal, you know name right, you know, as you mentioned, you know when you first started, you know describing what NFF does. One things is, as you said, to try and get people to want to be a part of football.
Right. You know, there's so much going on, you know, so many moms out there saying my kid's not playing those kinds of things. You guys, you're trying to help help that help people love football, you know, as you said, the girls flag football program. But you know, what's that like out there? What are you seeing from in terms of people and the interest in football these days? So fince post COVID, I
was worried actually about football for a while when COVID hit and everything. But since COVID is behind us as far as shutting everything down, I've seen numbers going up. We go to the youth football jamborees. We rotate get out there and you know, just kind of helping tell people who we are and just supporting what they're doing. And I'm seeing good numbers out there. It's really encouraging to see so many people involved in football and tier as well.
We want to really stretch out and help the youth chier as well. And we go to Friday Night Lights and present Player of the Game football teams at
different games every Friday. We partner with Arizona Ball on that. So and then we have connections with Arizona and helping them with the you know, the ZENDEEV Kicking camp and then they're seven on having girls or their girls football flag football, and then Victory Victory Foundation Mike Biller does seven on seven and he provides that seven and seven for free and we're a partner in that as well, so with them, and so just trying to make football better and support
people to feel comfortable to improve the sport in Tucson, Southern Arizona as a whole. Yeah, I mean, you know, again, you know, for those of us who love football, we I think everybody you know appreciates what you're doing. So One of the things that you guys have always done has been a part of too, is getting getting players into the college Football Hall of Fame. There's four of them at Arizona that that the Foundation,
and then there's some coaches and whatnot. Tell us a little bit about anything that's going on there. Last I heard, I think Antoine Cason with somebody. You guys we're trying to get in. What's the status in terms of the college Football Hall of Fame, whether the coaches or players that the Football Foundation is involved in. Yeah, we're actually the main path forward for any
U of a football player to get into the college Hall of Fame. It has to be in conjunction with University of Arizona and US, but we are part of the National Football Foundation College Hall of Fame, so that's the only way to get in is through us. We are going to have more talks about that. We did not not too long ago, try to put anton Cason in and it's just a hard process and sometimes it takes a few years to get anybody in. But that's one of our one of our focuses for
sure. Who would be your next guy? Who's the next guy up? Well, I would think we'd still work with Anton Cason. Steve McLoughlin has been floated around and he'd be a good candidate as well. Yeah, he's lou Gross Award winners, so one of them win big awards. Christ McCallister, who should have won the the Thorpe Award, right, So yeah, him too. There's there's some good ones out there that you know, that
qualify that we want to keep pushing forward. Yeah all right, So, uh so you got this going on, you've got anything else this summer that people should keep an ey out for. We're going to partner with Victory Foundation for the seven on seven tournament that's in June. It's a free tournament for all the high schools that are in our area and southern Arizona. So it's really nice to have that free seven on seven tournament. It's very well organized.
Michael Dialer, who's you know, part of most of the schools down here, that helps the fundraising, but he also gives back quite a bit, and so we'll be partnering with him on that, and then later in August we'll do some community outreach with the youth football and the different jamborees that they might have Okay, So we're talking to Nearmerhase He Southern Arazona chapter of the Next Football Foundation, also a longtime high school football coach. Also the
principal at Michael Mountain, right, Mike michaununt. So what are you doing football wise besides this, I'm principal. I don't do anything in football wise. I support our own football program and I do my volunteer work with the National Football Foundation. So you miss it. I don't want to get I don't want to get in Pat Newgen's way. He's such a good coach.
Well yeah, let him just do his thing. Well, you must have been proud of what they did this this uh this season because he was going up against his old buddy up here at the cdo areas with with mister Peace. You must have had, you know, some pride in that whole matchup. I did. I mean, we're we're a brand new school. This
is our first full class of students. We we don't have we you know, we have a full class of seniors, but we have a lot of students that have experience on the football level that are all coming back next year. So I'm excited for what Pat's building and have Our students are great leaders, great students, and good people, and then they work hard. So it's just nice to see a brand new school being successful. And I'm excited
for the upcoming season. But I was really proud of what they did final anytime you get in a final four of any conference, that's a heck of achievement, and I was proud of that. Okay, what's harder being a football coach? For being in high school? Principal Principal is a marathon. Football coach is a sprint. They're both difficult, but they're different in the time. Because you were a longtime coach obviously know the landscape of the city.
How do you think the football situation at the high school level, even youth football has come since your time in the last maybe twenty years. Actually, for a while I thought football in southern Arizona's kind of dipping down, but I think it's trending up now. There's really good from our clinic. This past weekend, we got some high school coaches that are real professional and they're up and coming people. And that's the hard part. You know,
the pool of coaches is then it's hard to find people. I remember when I was a head coach. I had twenty five assistant coaches easy and then had to turn people away. Now it's hard to find people. It's a tough job, and I think the pool of coaching, we just need to keep building in our young people to get back in the sport. I use a Jeff Bowl now at take a Verty example, there's not a lot of people like him and his age that are like grinders and they watch film.
And I learned from Howard Brining and Will Kramer, and that's what you did. That was the standard. You know, the standard was you're gonna work seven days a week and you're gonna watch film and you're gonna learn the game. And that's kind of tailed away. But I think we're on the upswing now. I also think the shutdown with COVID and what happened in southern Arizona really knocked off a lot of programs and I see that coming back now and
that's encouraging. And that's as a national Football Foundation, that's got to be our one of our main drives is to help people get tuos on football back to where it was ten years ago. All right, Neimer, Well, we appreciate the time and great stuff that you guys are doing. I will be out there on Saturday. I'm going to force some some I'm very happy to do that. Then I show I tell your name, chicken score check. I'm looking at Southern Arizona, foe. I'm looking. I'm looking forward
to the lunch. All right, that's a whole bunk. Okay, talk to you soon. You know that they're their golf tournament. I play in it every year. It's a it's a great event. And you know, all the guys are out there, right you run into the Huntley's and Cecil and all those guys are always out there. Ran into Lamonta this last weekend at the Autism golf tournament. But uh uh, you know there's a lot of guys out there. You know. It's really well supported by the football
guys in town. I suspect we'll see Brent Brannan out there and stuff like, unless he's out recruiting somewhere, which I don't know if he can. But anyways, a great event. So if if you've got a little bit of a time and a little bit of money, I want to support this. They do have two fources. You can go to the the Football Foundation, They don't have a website, but they do have a Facebook page and you can you can sign up for this golf tournament there under the National Football
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the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez sound Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app Just Surgery I on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to Iron the Ball Hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay, got Adam with us, we got Ryan with us, we got the whole crew. Welcome to Tuesday. I was gonna say, Thursday Tuesday Show, if you want to call, please do five to zero four one six seven four four zero. My boy, go ahead.
I was gonna say, you know, you know, who do our listeners think should be next in the College Football Hall of Fame from Arizona? Who do you think? Well, no, I thought I thought those guys right three that you brought up, because because it's been a while, and you're right, Cason, we've had him on the show. Yeah, maybe shortly after he didn't get in. He had two a couple of years. Yeah,
it was why they were trying to get him in. Yeah, so probably yeah, yeah him, Uh, you know Chris McAllister, who I think that year a cornerback from Texas won won it when mccawster was clearly ninety eight, was clearly the best, the best defensive back in the country that year, the whole reason that that team went twelve and one arguably. And then, as we mentioned, Steve McLoughlin, so or Cougar went to my high school, won the Leu Gros Award, which is like, you know,
the top award kicker. He was so consistently so good. Yeah, he was. In fact, I ran into a scout Casey Scowling in Phoenix in scott Still because he's now a cyclist and it looks good obviously, the still he doesn't look like a punter bigger than bigger, scored a touchdown and beat the hell out of one guy, remember one plan. I think he came down the thing and so it's not the typical kicker punch got so but those guys stick out him in my mind. If you know College Hallow Change,
do you think do you well? They have their criteria right, Yeah, you could get into some way, do you think though? And this might be a naive question because I don't know that because they played at Arizona and it's kind of isolated here. Enough publicity that that's one of the reasons
why they haven't got in. Yeah, because see yeah, yeah, well yes and no, I mean I think that the Football Foundation, what I understand about it that they bend over backwards to not do that, right that if a guy's worthy, whoever he played, he's worthy, right, you know, the right and the yeah, yeah, of course they're going to give it to the Heisman. You know, they're gonna put the Heisman Trophy winners and you know the quarterbacks like Tim Tebow and those guys in there.
But they do look for kind of under the radar kind of guys. I mean because arguably, you know, anybody in Arizona's kind of under the radars, right. I mean, Ricky Hunting was a two time All American, you know, deserves to get in. Chuck Cecil was not. I mean he was an All American, but you know he was you know his story. Everybody knows history. You know, undersized guy who just was you know, a gutsy walk on guy, made a name for himself. You know,
he gets in. Part of it is the cell that the that the that their local foundation, you know, does Teddy Bruski was you know, again a no brainer. He set the all time n C double a uh sack record. All right, there's an All American and then all the things that he did in you know, in the NFL. And then but a guy like Rob Waldrup. But rob Waldrup won again the Outland Trophy. He won the award that goes to the best person at his position. That's where
that's where Steve McLoughlin maybe fits the criteria. Like that Antoine Cason, who won the Thorpe Award, fits that criteria. You know, Chris McCallister did not you you asked me no, no, no, uh uh, you know, no shot at Antoine Kayson, who did I think was a better defensive back at Arizona? Christ mc callister was, but he just happened to be in the year that somebody else. Somebody thought somebody else was better because he played at Texas As opposed to be right. But you know, you
can get in. It's just it's it's harder. But you know, a big part of it is what the Local Football Foundation does. And when you think about the four guys from Arizona that are in, you think those guys did a great job to get those guys in because they deserve it, like they can't get dictmy yet because there's a specific criteria that you got to win I think seventy percent of your games and he's like at sixty eight percent of him going to Sentos State kind of yeah. So but you know Jim I
think Jim Young is in there. Who else? Uh? You know, Mooddr I think is in there. A couple of a couple of Arizona coaches that are in there. So it's it's hard and look deservedly so, I mean Hall of Fames over the years, more recently have gotten too damn easy to get into. So you know, if Antoine takes case on didn't get
in. Okay, you know, as long as somebody who he's he's not better, or as long as there's not somebody in there who's better than right, Okay, Okay, I was gonna say something and I just when you raised your finger, Yeah, well you know on my memory. Remember that's why I have the kids. So you want to hear something very sad, Oh hear okay, incredibly said you forgot something. I couldn't remember it talking to somebody I could not remember his name, Tommy Lloyd's last name when yesterday,
Tommy, what are you going? I can't I gut that guy. I couldn't come up with it. If you're a doctor out there, we're taking hope you take our insurance. And I can't stop laughing. Yeah, well you gave me just the guy just now. I said, uh, Tom Crean, could I know the guy? I mean, what was he? But I see him on on the TV right now, and that guy got Tom Green? Yeah, I mean Tom Lloyd. I couldn't remember. They have the meeting that I can't go to the I can't go to the
union. Yeah, they meet the people today. Yeah, yeah, if there is that. You know, if you guys know who Tommy Lloyd is and what, don't tell them. Don't tell the guy you always fist bump doesn't remember where the hell you are. And you got to win more tournament games so everyone could remember. You know, we didn't get him the assist title this year either. You know, well, who who would have gone to? I don't know who. Don't pass the ball, Bradley. We
tried. They need to try. Yeah we weren't we and you know what we there there are times we hand them out like candy. But it was you know, there were times that you're giving yourself up. I don't think that's true because you can't you can't know, but they're but there are times that they're borderline ones and that you don't have any questions about that. Yeah, we give it. It's it's a judgment called Steve. You know. It's like it's it's like the pitch is on the corner, right, is
it a striker a ball? Sometimes some days it's a striking, some days the same pitch as a ball. It's the same, it's the same thing. You know, you realize this is on the public flour. We're on the public you know, I'm not saying I'm not telling anybody anything that they don't you know. I mean, you know, there's just some Yeah, there are some days that that that that thing's an assist and some days that it's not. So did you give did you give the kid who went to
to to concede another for forget to Baylor on the pass? Lu shot And it was away game. It was an away game. Uh were in Arizona. Guy took a shot and and and uh and and and he tried he tried to say it was a pass. Yeah, no, I wouldn't give it an assist on that one. Yeah, I remember, I know the one you're talking about where it ended up to the ballast. It ended up being in an l e U. But it was it was clearly clearly a shot. There was one this year, there was we had one of those
this year. It was it was it was with It was with Umar and the he was he was a receiver right right, and it was it was. It was clearly it was clearly a shot, but it was short and Umar caught it and through it, and they they wanted us to give an assist on that. He said, no, it was a shot. There was a crap shot and Umar caught it and you know, and and put it in. They tried to come over and tell us that that's that was
that was an assist. We said, no, it's not. And I think it was somebody who's trying to get a double double and it happened because what it was. Let me, okay, no, I take it back. Here's what it was. Here's what it was. Umar was going for a double double and it was a pass and they tried to tell us it was a shot and he caught the ball and we said no, that was a pass that was not a shot. It was the other way around, That's what it was. And and so we gave an assist. Uh and
instead of a rebound in a basket. I think you mentioned did get the double, but he got the he got the double double later in the later in the game, remember that game. Yeah, but but but uh, because he was going for consecutive right right, going for consecutive double doubles, and it was getting late. But it was clearly a pass from the top
of the key, as if I recall it. I think he was even Colin Boso who threw it, and they tried, but it was it was kind of up towards the basket, and they wanted to call it a shot and a rebel. Overall though, I think he even surpassed the rebound mark because he went he got eleven twelve. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I passed by by by a couple. We got to make those calls, you know, and sometimes you don't. You really don't know what you get.
He's like the black I still I still dispute the you know Matt Othics fourteen assist game from years ago that that day that the guy who was calling assists for Arizona that day. Because back and then when we were doing that, you had a team that you were calling for. Yeah, okay, because so there was a two guys calling for the home two guys calling for the visitor, and the guy that was calling and he gave he gave man the fourteen assists, and I'm like, no, we got to the end.
I'm like, he's got fourteen. It sists. No way he had fourteen assists. But he got fourteen assists. And in the book, it's in the book, is fourteen? Okay to good? Look at that game. A lot of stuff goes on at that table that people don't know. Yeah, well I just gave some of it up. I know, I know, I know Jay's glove didn't fit. Okay, but again, you know it's it's that ball on the corner man right on the right, on the right on the black. Is it a ball today or does it strike today?
That's too much for me to know. Why did you say it on the air? Now? Do you know Jacob's alas, sir? Yeah, I do happen to work with them. Did you hear the day the judgment? Here here's my okay, I know, have I ever told the story on the one of my favorite stories, one of my favorite stories on this It was when Connecticut was here, remember with U was it? Yeah? It was like the year after they won the title. Yeah, okay, So they come here, right, and I think it was ok for he
was going for a triple double. He had double had double digit points, he had double digit rebounds, and he had nine blocks. Okay, and the shot goes up from Arizona. He goes up to block it just well, they said he tipped it. We said he didn't, and he did. We didn't give him the block. And Jim Calhoun literally and Sports Illustrated ripped our stack crew for not giving him the block, said that he had a triple double and the and the local stack crew wouldn't give it to him.
And we watched you know, I remember because he argued about you know, he mentioned it in the postgame press conference and stuff. So I watched that over and over and they showed the replay over and over and over again. He couldn't tell. Well, the rotation didn't change. I thought we had we had it right. And Calhoun called us out for not giving him the block and giving him the triple double, and I'm like and basically said, if that, if that play happens at Yukon, it's a triple double.
So the start crew was a tainted face. So what did he say earlier? Bronze face? I changed it. I changed it to light chocolate. Screwed us out of a triple double from our star plaint he was, he was very upset at us. Well, tell them, tell them they got back for the block that that Laura Woods got after the right that they call goaltending, right, yeah, right that year two thousand and one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, there you go. Okay, God, I forgot what was gonna say, New Mahassi came on blah
blah blah. We have we have a lot of bricking news right, kind of connected to juve. But it might come to me yeah in a bit. But yeah, so you know that we that stuff like that over the years. It's always been fun to go through that stuff. All right, Okay, that was fun. Okay, So again back to the Football Foundation. If you want to get out there, you know, do you what cost? Did you guys say the cost? God, I had it like
one sixty is one fifty. I think a foursome foursome runs six hundred dollars, so you're talking one hundred and fifty dollars if you want to get the four summer, you know, just go out there and play. There's ta sponsorships, there's whole sponsorships, anything like that, and definitely a good cost.
You know, you night what you said. We've been part of their the event that they used to have for the UH for the four students and the awards, but they used to do a big dinner or or sometimes it was the luncheon, and yeah, it's some impressive, impressive, very impressive kids. Kids you didn't know because it's not specific. It's it's specific to
football, but the kids are academically unbelievably and their football players. Some kids going to army and then you see him later becoming big time army people or naval or whatever it is. UH. You know, the aspirations of being mentioned Casey Scyron because I always would give one to a U of a guy Casey Skyron was an award winner one year. That guy, Dave Roberts was the name he was. He was like a UH. I think he was one of the last ones when he was an engineer. What do you call
it, uh, astrophysicist or something like something incredible incredible. There's been a lot of things because it's more than football. It's academics. Uh and you know, community works work and stuff like that. So always good stuff that the Football Foundation does. Again, one of those organizations that's in town that people don't realize how much they do. And they do a lot of stuff.
So if you get a chance, you know, take take a look at that and maybe get out there and fill up those last two for us. When he was talking, I brought up the nugent, nugent and and good combination back in the day. But I would have to say, and this is maybe me stepping too much and we're in out of time, that Nugent is is probably one of the top one or two coaches in the city
at that level. Yeah, but he could do more. He did it starts a brand new program, you know, and does what they did last year, you know, get get you know, get that far in the in the playoffs, right and you've got a former understudy of Toomey's and back in the day, no one of the but there's a bunch of those guys in town right now and they're all doing a great job. And they're all and I think that's why the level of football is improving, improving, is
improving again. So good, good for those guys. All right, let's take our break. We're back here at the top of the hour. We're going to come back. Adam'sked up a whole bunch of breaking news right at him. Yeah, that wasn't the confident, Yeah it was. I don't know if he understood cooked up. All right, we'll be right back with breaking news.