Tuesday, May 16, Hour 2

Streaming live on the iHeart Radio Whip. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez, Fox Sports fourteen fift day. Hey, welcome back to Ay the Ball here on plock Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jakens Austin. Now we have Jay with breaking news. Oh, this

is I on the Ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. All right, so let's you know, let's get started with the with the in your face portion of of breaking news with Arizona with Tommy Lloyd getting one of the top international players around, a seven foot two two, seven foot two, two undred sixty five pound kid out of Lithuania. Right, I'm shocked. I'm shocked, and you went to Europe. I'm not even gonna I'm

not even gonna try and pronounce his name. It starts with an M, ends with the nast last name, crevous, crevious, all the all those names start with the king. Yeah they do. But um interesting thing and of course you have you have the haters out there right. Well, now he's got four tall guys. He needs some twos and some threes, or he needs some he needs some you know, other guys. He's gotten now three seven footers and Umar Balow so, um, you know, how is

he gonna Why did he have so many big guys? No? One never was happy. They got pretty good guards. Yeah, and you know what, you can't teach how right right? And if they don't all play, guess what they'll red shirt right, they'll or you know, they'll fit in right. Man. People complain just to complain. But I was watching something on Facebook because I do for philosophy reasons. Uh, it's easy to complain, right, very hard to praise. And that's what they do. Good,

that's what they do, that's what they do. So um, but he's uh, you know he's coming in. I think he's for this year, so he'll be here in the fall. Ye um uh so you know, go ahead and go ahead and okay, so that's the news. That's great news. And he looks like I've seen some clips that he can play. I think VSA is gonna be much better. And I think I've told you that Philippe, it's gonna be fantastic. Yeah, Pillip Burrow you yeah,

yeah, guy guy. I think he's gonna be very percentile. And then Pella Larson announced He's coming back, which I think we all knew he was going to. But he's done dabbling with the A with the NBA. Found out barent find out what he wanted to find out, right, And I'm you know, we said all along, not that we know Pella or have any inside knowledge, but it was kind of like, go find out the process. But now he knows the process, he knows what he needs

to do. It's probably been told some things that he's got to work on. Sure, look baskets, Yeah, like make some baskets and and uh and uh that kind of stuff. Don't be missing key for he throws it key times when you're when you're like a ninety percent shooter. That episode. So Pelle Larson is coming back. Um, the San Diego State transfer Keyshaw Johnson is supposed to announce his decision on Saturday. Um, he's the guy

who was key to San Diego State's run to the championship game. He's got Kentucky, Arizona, Texas, Tech, USC and Oklahoma as his as his five choices. He was he was, you know, very complimentary of Kentucky, which is his most recent visit. And I don't know a lot of times the last visit is the one that gets you. But you never know. He's um, but he is, UH gonna supposedly decide this weekend if he's coming to Arizona. So we'll see if he decides to stay, you

know, stay close to home. Um. There's some things going on at USC with Bronnie James and now UH Rodman's kid. You know, they got they got one of the top recruits in the country coming in there, and he goes to USC, USC might become a problem for for all the Pac twelve, not just Arizona. So anyways, UM. On the other side of that, Uh, Sam Thomas has been cut from the Phoenix rectord Um. She was not on the on the roster UH as of today. Uh,

they're down. They got to get down to the twelve player by Friday, where the season starts on Friday, and she apparently has been uh has been off. It was a long shot to make she did last year, but she was also you know, on the All Rookie team. That plus you know, I can't I don't we've had her on the show. What a delightful woman. I don't feel sorry for her. You know why. She's very good at what she does. She's a people person. People love

her. She was all low in her communications or whatever she did two years ago. So I think she's gonna be fine. It's gonna be a success the rest, after life stuff, after basketball stuff, she'll be fine. Good for a she got you know, if you got a cup of coffee in there. Yeah, w NBA good? Yeah, you know, I mean you can't, you can't, you can't knock that. I mean good, you know, good on her. Um, Okay, let's see where do I want to go next. Um, we're trying to get um John

Wilmer on the show in the next couple of days. She's kind of give us an update of all the expansion stuff, TV deals and stuff like that. But there was a big meeting of the ACCU the powers. Yeah, the a SEC held a meeting. A couple of things that come out of that because there was a lot of discussion over the last few days that there were seven schools in the a SEC who said, we got to fix the

revenue sharing thing. We need more money or we're gonna lead, and you got people denying that they were going to lead, YadA, YadA, YadA. But in the end they come out of these meetings and the Florida State. Uh, I don't know if he's a d or The president said he's confident the ACC is going to go to a revenue model that they're going to be happy with. Um, he said, we're thrilled to be in this

league and we want to stay here. There's a lot of people saying you're a big fat liar, but um, you know that they still might want to stay, but it looks like there's gonna they're they're altering the revenue playing because you know, Clemson and Florida State and Miami think they should be getting more money than you know, uh, you know some of the bottom feeders in the league because they're the ones bringing in all the money. So and

then what's good with that lose those bottom feeders will stay bottom feeders. And these guys, but what they're trying to do is they're in this horrible TV deal that's got another like twelve years to go and they're falling behind. There's nothing they can do about it because of the contract they signed. So interesting stuff going on over in the ACC. There was also a Pack twelve meeting

today in Seattle. I haven't heard anything coming out of that, John Kenzown, I'll put a road a column behind his paywall that I haven't been able to get in there and look at. But interesting to see what's you know, what's come out of that. We're gonna have Dave Hickey on on Thursday to talk about his father to the award, but we're also gonna a pepper him with a few things to see what he can tell us about what's going on and all that. And it's mentioned we're trying to get John Wilner in

here. He's a busy guy trying to stay on top of all of this, and we're just trying to suck that information out of him as fast as we can. Um okay, Arizona has won the Territorial Cup for the fourth time in the last six years. I want to ask the key about that because it's bits. It's a big deal to fans. I guess is it a big deal? I think it's a big deal to the athlete. I

mean there's a big deal to me. Nice. Nice. It was like, you know, way back when Arizona was in the you know gate in the Director's Cup to the Series Cup and all that stuff, you know, and that was a big deal. And people say, well, we're doing good in the Serius Cup, and I said, but we haven't been to a damn Rose Bowl. All right, come on, I'll give up. I'll give up all the series Cups for damn Rose Bowl. I don't care for good in in you know, in all the sports until we get to

the damn Rose Bowl. Hey, eighty four years, you know, step, we're never going to get to one. You know how things have to line up, not because the rose Ball is going to be a quarterfinal, uh ter final playoff game at worst every year. Can you open the door for me. I'm really upset by this now. Not only did they have to get into the playoff, they've got to get to the quarterfinals, and they got to line up to be able to play that. Were just depressing

yourself by talking, You're just depressing yourself. Anyways. It was kind of funny though, the graphic, um, the graphic that they put that you have a put out about the Territorial Cup, you know as Jay Leville who play the ASU, instead of saying Kate Reese who sort of was the face of the team, right, or even SHANEA. Pellington and of all the people they put on they put on Jay Leville, so they're kind of poke them about helping him win the Territorial Cup. I thought that's kind of funny.

All right, Um, you b your draft lotteries tonight. So everybody's after this web Bon Yama kid. You know, I don't see it. Of course you don't because you didn't see the other guy who got hurt. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The kid, you know, a kid from Gonzaga. I mean the minute the man he had to start playing hard, his body blew up. And this kid looks the same to me as far as that. Whoa, this is another one of those life and what it was? It was you Rowski or somebody's said that he could be the

best prospect for any sport ever. Did he not have show? Hey? Somebody said, uh, Lebron show right, you know, but the best prospect you know, coming out of like high school or whatever, of any sport ever. And I'm like, what do you think, NJ? Come on? Yeah, you know, and and and hung that thing on him, and I'm like okay, but anyways, um, his body will have to change obviously. Yeah. So there's there's fourteen teams in the in the lottery. Um, who is it that has the best shot at Houston and

Detroit? I think, Uh, Houston, I think fourteen percent chance. Uh yeah, you try, No, you try the Rockets and the spur Spurs are in there too. Okay, so so let's see who gets who gets that guy? All right, little controversy going on where they're in judge. He was peeking into the he was peeking to the side. Did they hit this monster home? Did they say? Because there's another theory. I

saw something in the he said. He said he was looking into the dugout because these guys were chirping, and he was like, I wanted them to shut the hell out. So that's what he said. Okay, so what do you think? What do you think Batters don't generally take their eye off the picture generally, no, right, But people are saying he was looking at a coach who they think might have been giving him a signal because the coach was standing in a weird spot. But that's what coaches do, right.

Coaches try to steal signals just like guys on base right. Sure, and if they can, if they can transmit that to there's nothing wrong. That's part of the game. You can't be hitting garbage cans. You can't be having There was a there was a junior. They got caught. They had some sort of a speaker in their helmets. You know that they're feeding pitchers for these guys. If he's looking at a coach who might have the signal, then there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, and that's not cheating.

It would be cheating if there's somebody in the dugout, you know, like you said, you know, tipping them off because they've got a camera, then the outfitters, I'm like it. But if a coach can see the catcher giving a signal, there's nothing that's part of the game that means they didn't hide. This the catcher's fault, right, not hiding. We could pick those off easy. When we played Babe Ruth and it's a massive home run, Sure, that's just repetition. Yeah, I know I saw

that. It was kind of weird, but he still had to hit the home run. Still, you know, still his ability sets to come through. No, no, no, did you also have the seventy six ers stuff with? Oh that's right, Doc Rivers fired. Now four coaches whose team's got the Court of finals in the playoffs. Success all been fired success you know the Sons. No, well the Bucks didn't get but the Bucks were the number one seed, the Suns, the Bucks, the the seventy

six and and and in Toronto. They're all gonna find jobs. It's all incest to us, you know that. Yeah, it's still gonna find you know, Monty, you'll be a coach of Milwaukee or whatever. And it's all gonna be a Merritica around. Yeah, because because they all spend the same time doing something somewhere else, they're just gonna move the pieces over you know. You know ty lew As somebody who's you know over at the Clippers

mentioned about coming there, coming to the Suns. And he's over there, he's got you know, he's got a couple of good players over there. Why why would he give that up? Plus he's you know, I don't know. Again, it's weird. It's it's, as you said, very incestuous. These guys are just you know, moving the pieces around all over the place. Um uh, just an interesting piece of transfer portal news.

Uh Nordre Dame running back logan digs. When the Jazz reportal was there was Notre Dame's leading Russia hundred and sixty five carries last year going to LSU. It's like he was starting, he was playing, he was getting the ball at Notre Dame. Not good enough. I'm going. I believe even the best go somewhere else. Yes, it's just you know, I don't like it, Steve No So Sean talked about that on that Zoom call. He was, he was, I don't want to feel like a curmudgeon, but

I'm I am one and this is horrible. There's no loyalty, like to go to my point of being a fan. Um, it's hard to like somebody when I love you, I love you. Oh well, I don't love you anymore, but I only love you until the paycheck got up to here, right? Absolutely? So all right man, you got the Nuggets, get giving six and a half to the Lakers tonight, not touching the points, touching money line one and uh and Denver winning it at all,

winning this series and the next. Don't touch it. So you go with the points. I don't only care about the points, but if I take but what if I take them? Oh I hate you then more? What I'll be all right? We got it? Well, I think we had all, so let's go and take a break. We'll be right back.

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iHeart Radio Appy. I'm the Ball. Hey, welcome back to you on the Ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Ribera. He's jakensos now on the phone, and we have Jordan Geis on an NCUBA title holder with the check put. How many times have you won that thing? Jordan? One shot? But at Nationals just the once. But I just won my fourth Pack twelve title this past weekend of one, okay, and probably another one. We've had you on the show before, Pittsburgh kids, who's done

very well in the desert. What's going on with you? Not much? Just finished up my academic career out here, just to have my last final last weekend, so um, thankfully just being able to work on my training now to get through the rest of the season. So so it's been a long run here at Arizona. A lot of a lot of championships, a lot of titles, a lot of great stuff, a lot of records. Um, you know, Jordan, when you when I see somebody like you,

I go like, what drive them? Right? At some point in you're I don't know when, in high school, before that, at very or whatever, something has been driving you to do what you're doing. And for doing this for so long, is there any way to pinpoint what that has been or what that is for you? I mean, it just kind of started off just trying to throw it as far as I could, and then eventually you learn about national championships, then the goals to try to win

those. Then you learn about USA teams and you're trying to make those. Now at college, I finally won my first national championships. Now there's professional level USA teams to try to make, so that's the next goal, and then Olympics after that, and everything just kind of piles on and it's always there's always something to be motivated about this sport. So you must love to

compete, just compete and not lose exactly. Yeah, That's that's another good thing about track and field is everything that you put into it, you're going to get back out of it. So the harder you work on the front end, the more results are you to get on the back end. Why track, Why you're thinking back to because you're obviously a great athlete. How did track become the thing for you? I mean I played football up until

my sophomore year high school. I was a pretty good linebacker, got recruited by a couple of U D one school says the sophomore in high school, but ultimately I just didn't love it anymore. Track and fields kind of the sport that I was more drawn to, and I was getting a little bit better at it a little bit faster. So I ended up quitting football after my sophomore year and haven't looked back since. Did you get better through technique

or strength or both? I mean, as of recent it's definitely been more technical. I've always been a pretty strong kid ever since high school, so the strength levels have kind of always been there, So technique over the past the year or two have definitely been the next steps and will continue to be the next steps for me. Moving forward? How has that evolved? When you talk about technique, it is what you do now, excuse me, what you do now and the way you throw a lot different from when you

started. You know, if people athletes learned how to do things a different way, okay, guess a better way, how has that evolved over time for you? I mean, so there's a couple of different techniques that you're able to do. So the one I do now is called the spin. I've been doing that since eighth grade, and I've just been kind of building

on a solid foundation since then to where I'm at now. So someone if you just pulled them off the street and showed them a video of me now compared to five years ago, they probably wouldn't notice a lot of the differences. But someone who kind of has the eye for it notices the changes that

we've made over the past few years. So, when you're talking about getting to the level that you're at, I mean little, I mean tiny adjustments have to make a difference, right, because all you're you're really just trying to get you know, inches or centimeters or whatever you know, to add to to how you throw it. So are there a little baby adjustments that you make to get you things like that. I'm just talking. I'm talking from somebody who has no knowledge of what it takes to be a good shot

putterer or a hammer thrower or whatever. Yeah, exactly. I mean every sport you hear about that one percent. And that can come from any variety of things. That could come from nutrition, that could come from sleep, that can come from lifting, that could come from technique. Any little thing on any given day could mean the difference between throwing just below what the Olympic

standard is or making that Olympic team any given day. So I guess, as this eight year old or a young kid that you're talking about Olympic hopeful, were you always thinking about that at some point or not even not even your mind. I mean, it was just kind of not really in my mind until I started getting towards like my junior senior year high school, whenever I realized, hey, I'm top two three in the country at my age

level. And then just this previous indoor season at the Indoor USA Championships, I finished second, and that's kind of whenever the realism kind of really hit. And so I mean, just trying to carry that into outdoors this season into next year and just keep trying to improve on what I can control and if that's good enough on the days and so be it. I'm trying to recall your story from from our previous conversations. Isn't your mom a coach or

your dad's a coach and he to kind of coach you early? Yeah, So when I was a really young kid, my dad coached me. They both were d two All Americans at Slipper Rock University back in Pennsylvania. So my dad kind of coached me until I got to high school. When I was in high school, my mom was my school coach and then also kind of had a club coach that I was working with at the time, and they both now are volunteer assistant coaches at Slipper Rock University at the college level.

Again, all right, so how do you end up from out there to Tucson, Arizona. I mean, it was just all part of the recruiting processes. I took five visits, and this is the school that I felt like I lined most with kind of the image that they were going for. I mean, I liked the team, I liked the culture. Being in business school, they have a great business school out here in Tucsons, So just kind of the best fit for me overall is why I ended up

coming out to two phones. So once you put the shot put away and your your career as a track guy is over, well, what are you hoping to do in the real world? I mean, the goal is to give back to the sport as much as I can, whether that be through coaching or I'm also actually a certified strength coach, so that's another avenue that I could possibly get into. But just loving the sport and wanting to kind of be around that as long as I can, kind of either being a

coach or strength coach or whatever that might end up being. So, hey, Jed, Hey, Jed, I got another year of eligibility put me in. I'm okay, thanks. Well, nobody hits you in the shot fun, right, you know you're not getting pounded. So so what's walk us through kind of your your map going forward from where you are today? You know nationals are coming up, you know, Olympics, all those kinds of things. What's you know, what does your plan look like going forward?

For however many years you think you'll be doing this? I mean, so the roadmap now is I mean get through the college season, which will be NCAA Championships in the second week of June or whatever that is, and then from there part of a professional level that's going to be talking to agents,

trying to find sponsors um. For track and field, especially in the throwing, there's not a lot of money to be had from sponsorships UM, So a lot of that's going to kind of depend on my agent, what they're able to work with and if I have any people that are going to back me financially to try to get to the level I'm trying to and then just trying to win money at meets USA Championships, going over to Europe competing there, and then basically just doing that all the way until we get to

the Olympic Trials next year. This is probably a question you may not want to answer. How's the NL helped you out? Because you come on, you're one of the more decorated track guys there at UA, and one are the better athletes too. I mean that rules pretty much entirely for basketball football players. Track and fields not a very attractive sport for sponsors that might be trying to look for athletes I did have one which was a strength company up

in Portland, Kabuki Strength. I was working with them. I had a year long contract and they gave me some equipment that really helped me advance my performance forwards. So that's definitely a relationship that I want to try to keep after graduation and then try to keep building those types of relationships. See that's another thing, Like he says, it's not a sport like basketball, football.

I don't the inequity sounds weird to how's it going to work? So so Jordan so does Olympics kind of wrap things up for you and we're not trying to end your career here or anything like that, but just kind of asking how long do you think you can do this and you know, maybe make a living at it. Whats this is what you're doing. So this is a sport. It's pretty interesting. It's different from football maybe outside of

kickers and quarterbacks, where you could do this into your thirties. A lot of it's very technical, which you're able to maintain over time, and then strength based again you're able to maintain strength levels over time. So it's a sport that I'm able to do into my thirties, But ultimately it's going to be as long as I'm having fun with it, as long as them staying

competitive with it. Hopefully trying to make the twenty twenty eight Olympics would be the dream, just because those they're back in the US, So try to work through that Olympics cycle at least and then just kind of take it from there. Yeah, and to stay in the area or the West Coast rather than going back east. That's going to depend on a couple of things.

I'm going to stay out in Arizona this next year, and then my fiance is applying for PA school, so she's going to be a position to assistant and that's kind of going to dictate where we end up going after that. That's going to be either Arizona, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin where she's from. And we kind of have a rough plan for any one of those places, kind of for me to train and try to get a job maybe in a strength role somewhere, but it's just going to kind of depend on where the

chips lie after a PA school for her. So it's an individual sport, but you know you're on a team. So tell us a little bit about you know how you think Arizona can will fare you're coming up in the Outdoor Outdoor Championships. I mean, do you guys, what do you hope for? What do you think is like maybe a top mark for you guys coming up? I mean the hope for us, it's all about numbers. So there's no reason we can't be a top ten team in the nation at nationals.

Um The biggest one of the bigger pride points that I take from this past pack twelve championships that we just had is the biggest track team in the country's Oregon, and they're the most notorious and the most historic, and we just beat them at the Pactful Championships. We ended up finishing fifth, but being able to beat such a historic team like that, for at least the

men's side, was pretty cool. So just being able to try to carry that momentum, get as many people qualified for Nationals as we can next week at the regional qualifiers, and then just score as many points as we can in Austin, Texas for the NTA Finals. What are what are your rivalries or what are the rivalries in track? You know? What you know? Are they individual unit? You see somebody you know on another team and you want to beat that guy, or you know, are there team things like

that? You know, we were just talking about the Territorial Cup. You know how m does that matter to you guys? But where are the rivalries in the sport? It kind of, I guess depends that the meat you're at. So for me, the rest of the season, it's me against every other shot putter and NA, every other hammer thrower and NTA. That's kind of how hans stacking myself up against all these other people. But it's

the Pack twelve championships. Whenever Territorial Cup points online, it came down to track and field random women both had to beat AFU to win it, and we did it. So that's kind of another thing. If we if we weren't winning, at least beat the sun Devils. That's kind of the real goal there. But outside of that, we are actually a lot of people from Tucson, a lot of people from AFU. We are pretty pretty friendly and we support each other and some of these bigger meats, so just kind

of having that support going into NCA two is pretty helpful. So when you're sitting back in your lazy boy and you have your grandson with you in your lap and you're telling them, you know, all back in the day I had this, guig, how will you assessed your career here? That's a good question. I mean, it's such a historic program, especially Throws program, going back to Meg Ritchie in the eighties winning all these national championships.

Just kind of being a part of such an historic THROS program and kind of being able to contribute my piece with eight All Americans six pack twelve titles national championship and hopefully whatever lies ahead at this upcoming national championship as well, just being able to contribute to that history is pretty special. What advice would you give to a kid who's maybe in high school right now and you know, looking to do what you've been doing, But what's the first thing you would

tell them about how they approached this? I mean, I think the biggest thing that's helped me is just understanding what you're doing. It's easy to be sitting here in your coach being in your ear telling you what to do and then saying, yes, they're just being a robot and going out and trying

to do it. But unless you understand the why behind it, it's going to be pretty difficult to be able to continue to build on that, especially if you end up leaving that coach and your if you have another coach come in. It's it's just been such a benefit to me just to be able to truly understand what I'm doing and why I'm doing it. Well, mister Geist, thank you for joining us. Good luck the rest of the way. Thank you very much, Thank you for having me, Thanks for joining

us. The luck, good stuff. One of the all time greats man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why the nil is kind of not fair. Yeah right, I mean he's one of the all type greats, right, name of football players who has done as much for exactly the image of Airs on athletics is Jordan's exactly. I don't know, n I l is nil And more power to you if you get money. But it's still kind of weird to me. Here's this dude. That's the dude, right, look at Sam Thomas. Yeah right, I mean, who's who's been

a face right, you know at Arizona. Even after she's left, right, but you know she's still a face at Arizona. People still recognize that. Interesting stuff, man, very okay, stuff all right, let's get some calls about the fandom. The fandom. What are you a fan of? Are you still a fan even though you're old or young or whatever. Are you a fan? Nope? Yes you are? Nope, I know you don't I know you're label. All right, we'll be right back.

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or a second income. Come be a part of a winning team the A Team apply online today at a Team security dot Net. Steve Rivera and Jacobs Sommas they have their eye on the board on two Sun Sports station Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. They welcome back to on the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Robro, He's Jacobs us. We have a call, Jake, Well wait a minute, I got it it's MULTII youth, multi use, multi use MULTII youth crievas Okay, seven foot seven foot two with

a seven foot five wingspan. Uh, he's a big kid. Look on the video looks very very good. Yeah, agile and stuff. So all right, we do have a caller, so let's uh, let's take this. Hi, Gabriel, you're on there and I in the ball. How are you guys? We're good. Um, how are you guys doing? We're good. We're ready for your great reactions to what's going on. I got it. Um. So I'm very so two things. I'm very happy that heel Larson and um and um Man from Europe committing to the Arizona Wildcast.

So I'm happy with that. So in regards to Polish football realignment for the past twelve so I kind of want to make a perdition in the next three months, I think Arizona and Colorado would be in the big Folve. Wow, okay, three months, So that's gonna get us to August. Yes, Okay, we're gonna remember that. We're gonna remember that. Yeah, all right, what gives you that idea? So? So I listened.

So John, Chris Islet and he covers um the Big Twelve and uh, and so he did a story about how the Big Ten vetted and clear it um organ in Washington. So whenever when whenever Oregon in Washington, or whenever Big ten finally makes their decision to grab Ork in Washington, that's that's one of the factors. I still think as time goes by, tools I'm not gonna trust um grs criminal coughs and just will decide to jump to shock and Arizona in Colorado would go to the Big Twelve in about three months if

not seen happens. But let me just say this, I don't know if that's going to be for certain, But like I said to you guys, a lot of as as as long as this go keeps going on, THO is all gonna be rest restless and Mike decide to to go to better, better positions. All right, Gabriel, Well, you know, rings to be seen. We'll see what happens. I you know, it's so up in the air. There's the I mean, we can guess all we want,

but we're not going to know anything for ah a little while. Still, so all right, Gabriel, Well, thank you for your opinion. Appreciate it. Thank you guys, you rock. Thank you Will Gabriel, you better not to going faithful to us the other programs at the same time, I'm gonna hold you to us. I don't know, Steve, you

know, um the silences is it's and it's been forever. I mean, come on, Jay, we had a bad last year about something I can remember, and then August for augusts right, you said, well, then that came and then there was another deadline and that came coming up on another August. Ben See, it's you can't rush this. Well you had you

really had no idea how this is going to develop. The way has developed is that you know, everybody went out and did their deal and the paco let me ask you, and maybe we asked to, said Dave, And I know he won't asker. But but if now you're in the room, right, you're here and listen to these gibberish pretty much, probably how frustrated are you because no one's agreeing or no one says this, and there's denials and all this. You say, come on, guys, it's like politics.

Come on, guys, well they get this going. Well, I sort of understand why we don't know more. That's because it's such a totally right, totally why we don't but certain, but why is it taking so damn long? So the thing that long and suring things leak, but you don't know if they're true right right? And you know, I was again listening the guys that seemed to be that I that I listened to, and it seemed to know a lot. Ross Dellinger Um for Sports Illustrated, Pat

forty also Sports Illustrated. Those two guys and Ross more than more than more than forty. And Pat's been on our show there. I mean, he goes to these meetings. He was where the ACC was meeting. He was in Phoenix last week where both the Big twelve and the PAC twelve for meeting. He goes. So he's there and he's seen and he's talking to people and even he says, we don't know, and that's it, and that's

a frustrating part. We we we hear things, but all the different things that we hear, we really don't know what's going on and what the hold up is for the PAC twelve, what the Big twelve is doing. You know, you get you get Bret your mark at at Big twelve was lobbying grenades about saying what we want San Diego stay, we want Colorado, we want Arizona. You know, he said, in the end, nobody really knows. Don't you think whatever the end is, because end could be tomorrow

and then two weeks it all changes. But don't you think in the end, in my end, and it's gonna be four super conferences in d down the road. In the end, right, it will be twenty major whatever you call them. Yes, right, it'll be Major East West cut whatever it was, and it'll be a free for all, right, four big,

big deals. The one thing that that I don't know if it was Ross Dallinger he said this, and you know in one of his stories, or I think it was he he you know, there was a somebody from the Big ten, I think, and an ad or a president from the Big ten that said, they don't you know, one of the reasons they're not going after Oregon in Washington. One is the money, right said they would need a two hundred million, two hundred million more dollars in TV money

for those two programs to be able to go there. It's not there. But the second thing he said, we don't want to be seen as the ones that blow up the PAC twelve, that you that down the road. Historically, if the PAC twelve implodes or blows up, that let it be on the PAC twelve or not on us. Right, are going and taking order because they know if they take Oregon and Washington, that's it for the past. Yeah, we don't want to be the ones to get blamed for

that. And I thought that was an interesting point of view. But again, more than anything, as always, it's all about the money. Sure, everything we talked about is about the money. It's kind of crazy. And and the PAC twelve, a big twelve commissioner can say all he wants, but whether or not they want Colorado and Arizona and San Diego State, there doesn't seem to be a lot of money to go around. ESPN is lame employees off. There's not money, you know, getting thrown around.

There's all these other contracts that ESPN for instance, is going after with with you know, the the uh UFC and all that kind of stuff. There's a whole bunch and there's not money being thrown around anymore. There's not a lot of money left to go around, So you know, for people afraid that Oregon and Washington are going worse. Where is the big where's two hundred million dollars going to come from to put those guys into the Big the Big Ten? And then the other issue is, you know, these guys were

going through a college football schedule. He said, there's only so many slots, right, There's only so many games in your conference week to week, there are great games, said, so the Big Ten has three prime TV slots, right, the noon slot, the one thirty slot, and then primetime slot slot. And they said there are some weeks where there aren't three games worthy of all those slots. Yeah, there aren't. Are you gonna all of a sudden put Illinois Minnesota? You know, it's gonna be Ohio

State, Michigan and Penn State and whoever they're playing. And those guys can only play each other, so you know so many times, So it's such a numbers game. So I don't know, it's just it's crazy crazy, Um okay, low breaking news here, UH if you're planning on going out to the UH Softball Championship game has been played out at UH at Hill and Brand. It's been apparently been raining hard over there. The field is a mess. Uh, and there's some doubt as to whether or not the games

are gonna get played tonight. Sabino a number one seed going after its third Yeah, I don't know. Title. We've had this coach on yeah, playing Empire, supposed to be playing Empire at five thirty, and then at eight it's supposed to be Sabino and not Sabino, sal Point and um, I have it right here, sal Point and Greenway. The one and two seeds is supposed to be played at eight o'clock. Both of those games tonight.

Javier Morales, Johnny on the spot over there, has been tweeting out that the field is pretty Muney Muddy said, it rained pretty hard over there. Um, don't know if they're gonna be able to get those games in. Okay, Yeah, that's so. And you mentioned some point they've want a bunch of titles, especially with a new coach. They just said, give the give the keys to somebody new and she'll find a way to win

it. I've just tweeted. Uh. He was told the AA Associate Executive Doctor Joe Paddock is on his way to Hill and Brand to check out the conditions of the infield, So the meeting will be held with them pirates to being the ads. Determination will be made. A three A and four A championship games will be played tonight. Coaches told not to have the team's worm out. So there you go. You're plan on getting out there for that stuff. That's what's going on out there. You know, we're sitting here

in the dark. We don't know if it's raining. So anyways, um, Colorado continue to get guys. Man, they got it. They gotta they got a running back now, they gotta I think a receiver that they stole from I think USC. No. I mean, do you think they're gonna be uh we talked about this. I think the Vegas line has them ahead of Arizona, right but barely, just like fifth or six seventies whatever was. Do you think they're gonna have more talent there now than Arizona?

More talent. I'm not talking about overall stuff because he's he's We did out obviously people and brought in some people. I don't know, you know, I mean, how good are these guys again? And he brought a bunch of you know, I brought a bunch of f FCS guys with him. How good are those guys? I mean, there are a reason that they're playing FCS at you know, an FCF school instead of a you know, uh an FBS school. So I don't know, Um, do they have

they upgraded? Certainly they have to have, you know, they got a bunch of top recruits, you know, but how much have they upgraded? And how much? How how are they gonna be able to put all those guys together in a short period of time to get his seasons? Yeah? No, no, I get our playing well, but if better, it is better. It's gonna kind of be like Jets progression. Right. You

you have what you have which was not in anything. Second year or third year, you get better talent and you win more games and maybe in a kind of a weird way. You know, if you're an Arizona fan or any see You fan or from whoever, you just like the fact that people are talking about the PAC twelve because they're talking about Colorado one of the big

games the first weekend of the college football season. It's Colorado TCU. That was a nothing game you know last year, right going into this year when your new Colorado TCU, we're gonna play first game of the Year. You thought that's a crap game, But all of a sudden, Colorado's got all this, all this attention, and so people are gonna be excited to see that game. They'll be interesting to say. And if they get beat, they get blasted forty one to seven, then you know, we'll see what

happens after that. I don't know. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. August comes pretty quickly here it does, and then September and then we'll see what happens injuries and blah blah blah. Yeah, yeah, no, I you know, but this this kid, Alton McCaskill from Houston, is not committed to Colorado. So well they'll be better Colora like Arizona was better. Yeah, so we'll see. Yeah. He was the UH American Athletic

Conference Rookie of the Year last year. So you know, I have a I have a thought that you know, Okay, so he Dion gets there, uh gets changes with kids, you know, fifty four whatever many left that even the new crop that comes in, we'll see a lot leave after this year. Yeah, after her first coaches, you know, see gets the system down or not get it down, and it'll be a revolving door.

It'll and it will always be like exactly. I mean, this doesn't happen by accident because if you, like, if you want to be coached, and I think kids still do, you'd probably say, okay, I can deal with it or not. Then you get there you find out maybe you can't. Right. I don't know if I could, because it's hard. I don't know if I could. Um, it depends on how level I would be. Quite kind of good I would be. But uh, it seems I love I love the videos I see because they're inspirational and they're

kind of yeah, I get it, that's kind of cool. But every day, yeah, every day it's kind Sometimes it kind of falls up. It's asking you bring me flowers. I don't need flowers, kind of I'm kind of allergic to them. Now, give me a kiss on the cheek, right, creeck me a dinner. He sounds like a guy who's had some trouble. I won't even say, oh my god, oh my god. All right, Steve, you're feeling you're still feeling the Nuggets to night. I love the Nuggets. Don't do it to me, man, don't

crush my dreams. Well, what am I supposed to do nothing? Nothing? You sit and watch which sit there and look pretty, sit there and look pretty. Don't do it well? First of all, say it looking pretty. It is a hard thing for me to do well. No one will be in the room to notice, will be I thought she was on earth out of town. Oh, she could be in another room, or she gonna watching watching a succession. Man, we're trying to catch up on ted Lasso too. I've never watched the show of that. I had to

be talked into it. Somebody, actually, a friend, I like it. I'm having a great time with a friend of ours actually bought us the subscription the Apple TV Plus said we're buying you the subscription for a year so you can watch it, and so like, so, who who is is he jet Fish? Or is he told me he's Jetfish? He's Jetfish. It's good. It's been fun to watch. And he's not really Jetfish, he's he's just kind of a goofy guy. Yeah, but I it's been

fun. Where it's the third season? Now where on the third four episodes in? Oh? I thought had more seasons four episodes into it. Um, I think we're a couple behind. Still but it's been fun. It's been a fun watch. I'm not a binge watcher, I'm not a series watcher. I'm watching this. I'm watching The White House Plumbers. And that's it. You know. My daughter's been trying to give me the succession. I tried to watch a couple of others haven't been able to stay with.

Yeah, I'm I'm hooked on The White House Plumbers right now. But are goofy dudes. You can see how they bumbled and stumbled their away too. Messes. Man, it's just scary to know that those guys we're running the show right, right, and how important, how politics hasn't really changed, right, It's still the same. It's still the same. It's still the same. All right. Thanks for being here today. We hope you had

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