Breaking down all the exes at all. It's Steve Rivera and Jagen Salmas. This is I on the ball on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty talking back down on the ball around Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm jagon Zalez, my usual partner in crime. Steve Rivera is on the road. We just had him on and then dropped the call right with the yeah, with about a minute less. But I perfect, perfect, he was perfect. But I've got Greg Hanson as a guest host in here. Greg Hanson, long time calments theres
on daily. Do I call you semi retired? Do I call you retired? What do I call you? Okay, okay, you're barely working. So but Greg's come in to join us for a couple of hours here. I think I'm having a good time. We had Josh Passer on a little earlier and gave me all all the batting advice I needed for the rest of the or at least for the Sweet sixteen and Elit eight, So I'll be using that. And then Steve begged me not to take Houston, which I
can't. I can't commit to that. Yeah, I can't commit to that. Listen though, Well, no I'm not that's just it. I mean, I I so far A stayed off Arizona, and I will stay off Arizona because I don't want to, you know, kill their chances. But you know, Houston is fair game. I can take Houston if I want to. I think I don't know what their line is in the in the in this game. I know Arizona is seven, or it was seven.
I don't know if it still is. Anyways, we're here at the top of the hour, so we got breaking news with Analyse Sports fourteen fifty. Hit it again, this news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Okay, welcome to breaking news. We're gonna start with a few just random Arizona things I saw today. Tiger Christiansen, Arizona golfer is the Pac twelve golfer of the
week. I think they just had a tournament and I think he won, right, Yep, he would shout of sixty five the last days, all eighteen holes, because you know, when I play nine, I'm closer to sixty five after nine than I. Okay, rightfully, so he is Pack twelve golfer were very good. And wait, let me because I know you've they're really good, aren't they this year. Oh, Tiger Christen might be the best athlete on campus. Yeah wow, I mean they they're loaded.
They have like seven or eight players. Yeah. I mean, you know we had we had Jim Anderson on just just after the season got started. But then, I mean, they're winning tournaments. Didn't they win the one in Hawaii? Yeah, you know, they won here last and then they won here the tournament they had here last week. It wasn't a good field, but they wont. Yeah, they're really good, all right, And
then going to Arizona track and Field, slash cross country. Trevion White Austin is the was named the PAC twelve Men's Track Athlete of the Week after breaking the thirty three year old school record in one hundred meters. I looked it up yesterday to see if there's an older record on the track team, and there is. The two hundred meter record was set in nineteen eighty four,
and he's this closed to break the two. Wow, that's awesome. When I heard that the record was still held by Michael Baits, I'm like, that was a really long time ago. You know, I'm thirty three years I was. I was young when Michael Bates was at the U of A. Remember how big time he was. Yeah wow, Yeah he had won a bronze medal yep, yep in the Olympics. Yep. And then so, Sir Jonathan Simms is the PAC twelve Men's Field Athlete of the Week after
posting his personal best leap and this is this first place victory. He got his fourth in the in school history and currently ranks first in the nation this year. What was his leap twenty six dash one point wow. Vance Johnson holds that record twenty six eleven wow. So he's gaining on it. Finished like anch out of the Olympics. I remember that. I remember that. Yeah. So this was all just posted like within the hour. Oh cool,
very cool, good stuff. Yeah, so that was cool. And then I don't know if every and saw this, but they did a Sweet sixteen sent off for the men's basketball team today at McHale and there were a bunch of people outside with signs wishing Wildcats good luck in the Sweet sixteen. There was Brent Brennan, was there, Sarita Stubbs. I don't think they've ever done that before. Was the public invited to that? Was it just McHale people? I don't know, there was a bunch of people. Yeah,
that's cool. I mean, you know, they just kind of go right and you know pretty much, you know all the time as we were talking about I think the new athletic director probably helped organize them. Yeah, that's awesome. That's a great idea. Very cool. Yeah, very cool. And then there were just some other things you guys were already talking about that room. So I guess it is confirmed, not just rumors, that SMU is hiring Andy Einfield from USC and men's basketball coach. His days were
numbered there, weren't they. I mean, weren't they never just about done with him? He was just a vanilla personality. Yeah, I mean he had that run Florida Gulf Coast. They jumped on him and never really material wise did the USC. So now who does USC go get well going into the Big ten? At least they have a new a d who may hire better than the former US. Do you think they'll have someone within a few
days? What do you think the US? Yeah, you almost need to at this point, I mean, the portal is open and all that stuff. I mean, you got, you know, all their players, how many of their players are going to jump in the portal. You know, it's that whole thing that enters now into you know, coaches coming and going anymore. They're best players, that freshmen who won't come back. Yeah, that freshman guard. Well that's that's a tough job. It's almost like ASU
basketball. No, I mean really it is. I mean it's like, you know, it's sad though you know they care about football over there. You're in the LA market, so you know you're behind everybody else, especially if you're USC basketball. I mean, I mean U c l A Basketball doesn't draw like you used to. I mean those you know, some of their games. You go, you watch your games, you go, who's
even there? And that was blaming on the traffic, but you know what, go to the games and Mick Crona came in and plays a slow down style, tries to beat your fifty nine to fifty seven. Yeah, they're not going to LA. People aren't going to drive out for that. Yeah. Well there was the guy that took me to three final fours. Oh, same guy, Ben Allen. Yeah, he's the same guy, right, that's why they fired him. Yeah, and you know, maybe not as grouchy as as Cronan, but still a grouchy guy. He wasn't he
was a grouchy guy. I the I worked two regionals that they played in, you know, in that stretch when they went to three final fours. He was grouchy. He really was. At the same time, USC had Kevin O'Neill and u c l A had Ben Holland. How could you have two less likable guys and go on. I like Kevin, I like him, yeah, but as yeah, you're right as a as a basketball as the head coach, he was kind of challenging. But U c l A was good even just a few years ago. They were really good. Well
they were, they were in the fire. He inherited, inherited. Yeah, that's true, all right. I have a couple more things. So, like you guys mentioned earlier, maybe you didn't mention this. The Washington State athletic director leaves to go to rival Patrick Chuhn. Yeah, yeah, I mean he goes from being a no conference athletic director to a Big ten
conference athletic director. With Jed fish Well, I mean yeah, but you know that whole thing with Jed, I mean, the the ad that hires them leaves five, you know, is gone after five months up there and crazy stuff, you know. I mean I don't know that. I mean when I worked at McDonald's, I wasn't going to quit after five months.
But Patrick Chuhn gone from Washington State has I mean, he had a lot to do with trying to hold the hold the whole thing together because he knew that the position that they were in, and I think he became pretty influential after that. But now you know he's gone. So what are they going to do up there? They've lost their basketball coach, They've lost lost their athletic director. What do you do? I asked Steve Hekey about a month
before he's fired, who were the most effective ads in the league? And he said, Patrick jump yeah the first Yeah, because he does he did so much so little. Yeah. Yeah, Now it's all, it's all, it's all done. What about Oregon State? I mean Scott Barnes, Yeah, you know, they lost their football coach, you know, I mean, you know some and the basketball can't afford to pay them all, and you know, and then once in Wayne Tinkle, I mean, what
are they going to do with him? They only big money through I think twenty eight. Yeah, that's a tough job. Yeah, Yeah, but they're bringing in a lot of money. Man, all these you know, Arizona's bringing him at bringing him a lot of NCAA tournament money. They got a bunch of bull met there. They got money, but they don't have much else up there. You know, what do you what do you think
is going to happen there? Do you think they become you know, a sort of a little higher level Mountain West or what do you think happens? Their best option has to be to be a full member of the Mountain West because there's no other option. Yeah, what other option is there? I mean, do they go hand pick you know, six Mountain West teams and maybe I don't know, I don't know who else is out there though, you know they unlike the Pac twelve, the Mountain West has like a big
fifteen dollars million penalty if you exit the league. So no one's going to leave, right And that leads me to ask, could they kick sant as they stayed out somebody like that? Yeah, and put in and bring in an Oregon state or in Washington state. But that let's say, or let's say the Mountain West as it is right now, and they add Oregon State, Washington State. That doesn't make them a Power five or you know,
that doesn't lift them up into the power conferences. And I'm never going to get a TV deal yeah, other than the one they have, right, I mean there's still a you know, group of five, right even if they had those two guys. So what so what do you do? Do you stay independent? What options do they have? I don't know. I
don't even know. You can't stay independent. It's sad because Oregon State's got it almost a top ten baseball program, yeah, and washing State doesn't have any, but that's the one program and then organ States gymnastics programs top ten. Yeah, and football has been good. But as we said that, you know, Jonathan Martin left. Yeah. I don't know, man, I don't know. I certainly choose that. I wouldn't want to be in with those guys over there. All right, what else you got? So?
The first televised spring spring football game will be happening this year. It's Ohio State on the nationally television national nationally televised spring game, first ever Ohio State on Fox. What do you guys think about that? Didn't they do Colorado last year? So we're talking a network, national network, you know. No, I'm not watching it, right, Yeah, I got things
to do. But I mean somebody did the research and said, you know, we'll get maybe you know whatever their alternative programming is, you know, that day, I guess they figured out this will be better than anything else we got, you know, the you know US or the United Football isn't the United Football League now the combination USFL and XFL, Arena Arena ball whatever. Maybe they say it's football. It's Ohio State people watch, I don't
know, Midwestern. Yeah, I'm not watching. I mean I go to the Arizona spring game and I'm I'm disappointed every year every time because it's like I could see the scrimmage at one of your practices. You know, I didn't like. I didn't like Jed's spring games and then the fall you know, scrimmage. I didn't like. I want to see a game and he never played like a game a game. All right, that's pretty much it
for breaking news. But there was something that I kind of saw just randomly on Instagram that I thought was funny, and that is that the U it was a comparison. I don't know if you guys saw this of the UNC starting five age versus the Oklahoma OKCS starting five age and it was the same twenty two years old. This is average starting five age of UNCO. I thought that's kind of interesting because you think about, like Kylin Boswell, isn't
he like eighteen? He's eighteen, And I don't know, it's just kind of funny to think about the difference in the age that they're going up against. Like Cormack Ryan on UNC is twenty five years old and Kylin Boswell is eighteen. That's seven years. Yeah, huge factor. That's a huge factor. Yeah. But how old is Keishad Johnson? Yeah? Right, yeah,
those Pack twelve quarterbacks twenty four it's not just kind of interesting. Well, Michael Pennix is so old that he's not being drafted high because he's so old. I got told that, I got told you we had who do we have on the on the show? And I would saying, why is Michael Pennix not being mentioned to me? And I thought all year long last year he was the best quarterback in the Pac twelve. I thought he was better than Bo Nicks. I thought he was better than than than Caleb Williams.
And they said, because he's twenty whatever, and he's got two or three fewer years to play than those other guys. And so the MBM, the NFL looks at that. You're you're you're buying a quarterback that's got a lot of miles. He's twenty three, Michael Pennix really about to be twenty four, Yeah, about to be twenty. Okay, all right, you know Caleb Williams is twenty twenty one, twenty two. But they said a
year or two matters to these NFL teams. It's one less you know, that's one less year that you're going to you know when when he gets to his five year content tck, he's thirty instead of twenty eight. And I thought, okay, I get it makes a difference. All Right, Dell, we're going to take our next break. We got I don't we'll come a surprise. Guess. We're trying to reach him all day. Greg finally
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Ravera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen to fifty. Welcome back down the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host, Jay Gonzales. My buddy Steve is on the road to LA. We had it for a little while and then dropped the call, so he's gone. He's out of sight, out of mind for now. I do have Greg Hanson in here, a longtime Arizona Daily Star columnist, filling in for Steve, and Alisa's running the board. Got Jim Rosber on the phone, former Arizona assistant now
a Pima women's basketball assistant now coming off. I guess Jim a fun run at the tournament. I know, you know you got beat that first game, but then you had a nice little run after that. Tell us a little bit about how you're feeling about what your team did at the national tournament. Actually, it was spectacular. We won the first one actually, and then lost the second one to the defending champion, and then reeled off three again really talent wise, quickness wise, better than we were, So it
was absolutely a spectacular run. I don't know, Greg may know, but Jay were starting four freshmen and one posphomore, and they were spectacular. Our little point guard Riley Wall, the last game we played on Saturday, went off for forty three points, a new record for women out at Temis. So it was absolutely a spectacular season, absolutely spectacular tournament. What you do is you want to give your girls a chance to play the last weekend,
and we did. Saturday was the last day you could play in our division. We got that far, so all in all, couldn't have been better, couldn't have been more fun. I could overhear what you were just saying, and I don't know why you guys are worried about my having a neat replacement when I'm only forty five. What's going on? Yeah? See when Greg said, when Greg told me what your age was, I didn't believe him for a second. I said, as Jim, Jim is in his
forties for sure. So when I get up there, when I get up in the morning and look in the mirror, I can tell you it ain't in the forties anymore. So. Yeah, So, Jim, when you have a season like this where you feel, you know, you feel good at the end of it, how does that carry you into next year? You mentioned you got four freshmen presuming they're going to come back, and you
build on that. Well, you know, tell me the kinds of things that you put into an off season when you've had a season like you had this year. Well, you know, I think everybody gets it needs to get away and get refreshed a little bit and then we'll get back at least in the spring. Here the shooting a couple of times a week. But you know the thing is, and I you know, chatted with Todd when we were in the air for you get done Saturday and you win the game.
It was about one point thirty. We won by two o'clock. You're already thinking about next season or recruiting. Who's going to be back off this team, maybe adjustment and offense. Maybe you just frankly and you guys know about this. You just don't get away from it. So, uh, you have a great, great feeling when it's over, but then you're already moving on to next season or the spring or something. It just it just doesn't stop. It doesn't seem right that you guys won all those games in
a row and only finished seventh. Shouldn't you have been like fourth or something? Well, I thought I thought we were the best team there, Greg, so I voted as number one. Well, you you win one, and we were a pigtail bracket, and then we went into the main draw and you lose there you go into the consolation bracket. So they're just the way they set it up. Greg. There just wasn't anything we could do. But we did beat some very very good teams, a couple of them
from out East. And you know, you guys would both agree if you were to see these teams that they had a lot of talent, a lot of quickness. So I don't get the whole seating thing. Just I just try to get ready to play the next next game. But yeah, I would agree with you. Running off three in a row. Three in a row at the end might seem like there could have been a higher spot for us, But all in all, again, to get them to the last
day of the season, I thought was pretty terrific. Well, I was going to say, because you know, you have the disappointment of being eliminated from the main tournament, but you kind of get to get back to a feel good spot by having the opportunity to do that. How important is that for you guys? Well, I mean, you know, you guys could
sit there right now and count up. So there's only about seven or eight teams in the country in any division that finished on a high note by winning, and that is we did in a constellation bracket, the division one, Champ, two Champ, three Champ, an AI A champ. There's only again about eight to finish on a high note. So I think that's really pretty cool and fron of the girls who worked hard, and again we're talking
about fall. We had no clue how this team was going to be, but for them to be able to finish as they did, and all of them have good seasons, get along, no drama. Uh So it was just you know, it really ends on a great note when you win. How many games did you win? Thirty? Now we were twenty six and nine. Yeah, it's amazing every year after year after year. Todd and you you guys just roll. Well. It's a it's a good system and Todd does a good job. As you know, Greg and Jay and I
think we work well together. I think we're all of us that are there coaching wise, are on pretty much the same page as to what we want to do. We were off with good defensively, We were a good help side team, very very generous with the basketball. So I mean all the things that you you guys have seen year after year from Arizona other good teams, we were able to get across to the girls. And I also thought, this is not to I mean, any of the other teams we've had
anywhere, but it was maybe the smartest team, smartest team. It was a picking up stuff that I'd been associated with. And you know, we had, you guys know, some kind of knuckleheads. And I'm kidding when I say that. Down at Arizona. Some of them still don't know the place. So these girls picked up things quickly and you could make little adjustments of practice or shooting, and they were really a smart us as well.
So all in all, a really great year. Jimmy, I'm saying this in the nicest way possible, but you've got a lot of miles as a coach. You've been coaching for a lot of years. What is it about working with Todd Holthouse and working with this PIMA program that keeps you going? Why do you keep doing this? Well? I love it. It's just something that's been in my blood since my dad put up a hoop on my garage, his garage when I was three years old. And I really loved
the association with the kids. Todd's a great person to work with, you know, we get along well. It gives your room to do your stuff and do your thing, and we've got a pretty good division of duties on the court there on. I like it. It's like your friend there Hanson likes golf, even after that double bogie on number eighteen, still likes golf. Just gets in your blood and something you want to do. I like the competition, I like the even still the slow on the game day where
you got a little bit of stress. At least you know you're still upright and involved. So it's just something that gets in your blood. And so far physically I've been able to hold up reasonably well. So you know, as long as that's good, I think another season or two is in the books. All right, that's very very cool. Well let's let's break into something that I know you're very familiar with a lot of years playing the Nancy
Double A tournaments. Arizona's in the Sweet sixteen this year. First of all, you know, we've had a whole season of watching them ups and downs, more up and downs, but the downs have been big downs because they've lost. They lost to some bad teams. Your general impression of where they are today, well, I went down today, Jay watched say based on everything I see, you know, let's to me last weekend winning and getting into the sweet sixteen was always we lost him? Can you text some time?
We dropped the call. We just we just dropped the call. So I'm not sure what what what's happening there, but we'll get we'll try and get him back on He was just just about to give us his thoughts on Arizona. So we'll see if we can we can continue with that. But you know, you know, I think he was I think he's about to say that he thinks they got a really good shot at this thing. Think
he was going to say that they made the sweet sixteen. And now is where, yeah, and this is where where where it all starts to happen. I hope he's got I hope he's got our number on his on his phone so he can he can give us a call right back. He's he Is he back in town? Do you know where where where gym is? Or is he on his way back? Oh? He's back. He went to the practice. Oh did he golf with you today? No? But he went to the u A practice this morning. Oh okay, all right,
Okay. He's seen it all. Yeah, well yeah, I mean, you know, he's seen ups and downs. He was on the you know, with the national championship team. He was on the bench when that same team lost the next year, and that was you know when Steve and I keep bringing that one up. That was a horrible day, you know, for them. But you know, but he did, you know, he just keeps coaching, which is amazing. You know, he went.
He likes to talk about nineteen eighty final four. Iowa went and they were probably the equivalent today before or five seed, and they got to the final four and they beat John Thompson and Georgetown to get there. They had to play a perfect game in the head. And that's a pretty good legacy. Yeah. And he saw the whole he build it Iowa with lout and he saw the whole thing here and uh oh he could. He should write a
book. We we write a couple of books because he's you know, and again the fact that he stayed here too, you know, to keep doing this to me that I think that says a lot about I love the place. You know, I've talked to a number of times about all the guys, you know, all the athletes, men, women that have come through the U of A from places far away and you know and stick around. You know, Larry Smith, Jim Young, Dick Tomy, you know,
guys like that. You know Luke who could have gone anywhere he wanted, however many times he wanted to go and always stayed here even after he was done. You know, all of all of those things. And a guy like Roz, you know, came from somewhere else and and and just the fact that he stayed here. Now you know, he's he's helping this program at PEMA be really good. You know. He was a heart and soul of those Arizona programs for what nineteen years. Yeah, he was the player
rep. I mean everything flowed through him. Well, let me ask you that because you you know, you you you covered the team a lot more, a lot longer, and a lot more than I did. You know, in the years that I that I covered Arizona basketball, Kevin O'Neil was that guy. And at the time, you know, I loved Kevin. You know, however, grumpy he became as a head coach as the player you know him and Ricky bird Song you know, as the as sort of the players coaches. I thought, you know, Kevin and Ricky did a
great job of that. You know, he was awesome and uh, you know, and if Froz was that guy for for uh you know, the the those years, you can see why that success continued. You know, he he got a head coaching job in Northern Illinois after the Iowa success, right, and those jobs are so risky when you go to a small school
like that, Right, they don't give you time. Plus he got a new athletic director, so his career didn't get to develop as a head coach because that new athletic director let him go after three years at Northern Illinois. Yeah, just when they're going I'm good. The guy who replaced him came in with his talent and went to the NCAA tournament. Yeah, and then Ross gets branded. He had his chance, right, right, so he
made the most out of his second chance. But getting back with Lute, Yeah, exactly where do you think he would have fit as as a head coach? Man? He's You know, when Mike Hopkins was hired by Washington career assistant at Syracuse, I thought they celebrated him. We got this guy, this great guy Hopkins from Syracuse. I thought Rosboro was more qualified than that guy. Yeah, what a personality. Was an engaging guy. Yeah, knows basketball inside and out. But he got his one chance and didn't
get the second chance. I know it bothers him. Yeah, not actively anymore, but when he talks about I can tell there's still a source pot there. Yeah wow wow, interesting because you know, again, you know, always the good soldier, right, and and then clearly a good talent evaluator, you know, because he you know, because he was bringing in guys and and then and then coaching them. I mean, he was just a guy. He was involved in everything. He would go to their classes
in the morning to make sure they were in the classroom. Really, I mean that's getting up early, that is. And then he would he would mentor him because you know, Lout wasn't that kind of a touchy feely guy, right, He never was. So Roz was deservedly inducted into the Assistant Coaches Hall of Fame in Atlanta two years ago in the second class. Ever, so that shows how much other people outside of you of athing Yeah, yeah, how much does it bug him that he wasn't ever a head coach
again after after that? You know, I don't think he ever even applied again. I don't, Yeah, because you know what it's like. When he got here into Lute, it was rolling. Yeah, you wanted to be a part of that, and he remained a part of it. Yeah, he stayed a big part of it for all that time. Yeah. Yeah. Now, and I you know, I think that I know a lot of people here know him and know of the work that he did, but I still think maybe a little underppreciated for what he did here. And
this isn't a nice thing that happened to him. You know when Luke kind of wobbled at the end, Yeah, he got rid of you. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, I do just a crazy thing. Yeah, nobody understood that, and there was no way for him. Luke couldn't make it up here. Then everything fell apart. Yeah yeah, well yeah that was that. That was that all right? Okay, Well, sorry that we dropped the call with with with Roz, but uh, you know, we had a little good, good conversation with him. Too bad that
we didn't Uh, we didn't get a chance to get him back. But we're gonna come back. We have a segment. We can take your calls five two zero four one, six seventy four for We've talked about a lot of stuff today. You know, Rivera's been on. We had Josh Passner taking Houston in the National champion for the National Championship, doesn't have you can't even getting into the final four, uh, And I had a lot of
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This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen to fifteen. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app Just Surgery I on the Ball. Welcome back Time on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Jagonzales. Steve Rivera is still on the road somewhere in LA. For getting close to it, I guess Greg Hanson has joined us as a guest's co host, and we got Jim Rosboro back to finish up the conversation. We're just getting started his thoughts on Arizona. Jim,
I appreciate you you calling back. We'll take some calls after we have this little conversation with Jim. But you were just starting to talk about talk about your thoughts on Arizona were what were you about to say? Well, and I did stop down today just to see him and to wish to everybody, well, you know, they were sharp today and everything that you can say as a cliche has to happen. But they have good players. You know, you guys know that they have good players, they have good talent,
They've got a good amount of depth that you know will help them. So I think they're in a good place. But the the whole deal is you have to understand that right now, this is just a basketball game. Don't put added pressure on yourself. Don't do anything. The court's still ninety four feet by fifty. The ball is the same size, the rims that say the same side. Be ready to go. But don't overdo the pressure on yourself. Somebody wants said pressure is a privilege, and I agree with that.
But you don't want to overstress yourself out. It's a basketball game and get out, have fun, do the things that you've been taught. I think they're in a good place and in a good position. Frankly, well, how do you do that, Jim? Or how can you as a coach help them realize that or understand that and have that mentality? How hard is that to do? Well? I mean, the truth, the truth is the truth. I think you talked to him about it and understand help
them to understand. Yeah, we're Week sixteen team and everything else. But you know, they've played a good schedule. They've played about a thousand games a piece from AAU ball when they were young. So it's just to keep
things in focus. It's not bigger than what it is. And you guys both remember, I mean our ninety seventeen that wanted they didn't know what the heck was going on, and there were no great expectations, and you beat Kansas, and then maybe after we beat Kansas things stepped up a little bit, but you just kind of let it happen and maybe talked to the kids a little bit about it and try to keep the stress level down and let them have jelly bean fights at dinner and gone stuff like that. It's just
keep it as normal as you can. Yeah, well, well then let me follow up. Then, So let's say that the ninety eighteen the next year, that every all year long they're supposed to win it again. Would that have been a case where the the expectations maybe got the best of them. Well, that's a long story. That's off the record. Okay, all right, never mind, No, I mean that was that was a good team and unfortunately three of our top guys just had bad shooting days.
Yeah. I mean, it wasn't that we didn't get shots. But you know, again then you wonder if you could slice the kid's head open. What what caused that happened? Because we've been so good all year and you know, five, well eight returning guys, you know. So, yeah, that was a big, big disappointment that year that we didn't win it. Again. I got a question about that game. Yes, Majeris puts on the triangle in two and everybody made a lot about that. Was that
that big of a deal. Was that the deciding factor that defense? No? I think more more the deciding factor was that we didn't shoot the ball. Well. I bet if you and I Greg sat down and looked at the film, Miles had good shots, Jason Harry had good shots, Bivvy had good shots, and some days they just simply don't go. It was just a bad day, and it was some of the key people that bad
bad days. I mean a Trianglee two is fine, but you still got to move and still got to make cuts and get your hands on the ball, and I think we did that, but we just simply we didn't make shots. Now they can say trying one too. I don't think I'd buy that. I think we didn't make shots. So so this team's in the sweet sixteen. You went to some sweet sixteens, is there? You know
you kind of feel like the final fours in reach? How do you get them to keep their eye on what they're doing knowing that, look, we win a couple more games, we're in it. Right what's Tommy having to talk to his guys about right now? Oh, everybody knows that. I mean everybody that follows basketball from ninety five years old to twenty two knows what's
insight. But you just you cannot look ahead. I worked for a guy named J. D. Barnett at Tulsa, and he told us one day at practice, Coaches, I hear any of you you say the word final four, I'm gonna fire you on the spot. So I just don't think you even even remotely talk about that. You hardly dare to let yourself think about that. Now. If you're up two points or up ten points against North Carolina, for example, in the next game, then you can start
thinking about it. But it's just dangerous to talk about it. It's dangerous to overlook the next people. You just you just can't do it. You never even mention it. You just get ready for the next game when you look at the opponent. And I don't know how much you've looked at Clemson, if you've got a chance to see their game or anything like that, anything about the matchup that you're aware of that we should keep an eye out for. You know what happens on Thursday. No, not really. I
saw them a little bit the other day. I watched them, and really I think they've been a little bit of a surprise team. They were either seated a little bit lower, but they've come on strong at the end. And this is what you want want to happen for your team, is that you're playing well at the right time and now in the tournament. Just based on the little bit I saw, I would say perhaps if the Arizona squad is a little bit quicker, certainly is big, but again it all boils
down to matchups and how you're shooting and taking care of the ball. So again, sitting here today, very dangerous to say, but I think Arizona has a really good chance to win that game. Would be my feeling, all right, all right, of all the years you were involved, from the Sweet sixteen and beyond at Arizona, who is the best team you ever played? I might vote for Arkansas from what I saw, But what would
you say as a coach? Well, I think I think one or both of you were there, and that's the team we played after we beat Kansas, and that was Providence, and I'll tell you, I think that was an overtime game. They were loaded. I think God Sham God was the point guard, and how you're going to beat him and their front line? Greg, you remember that. I mean they were giants, two hundred and fifty pounds and sixty ten. They were an awful good team in the tournament.
You know, you could go back and pick some other teams that were good, but just off the top of my head, I would say they were awfully good. And then a couple of those Kansas teams that we lost to go to the final four, what was that maybe two thousand and three or something? They were three were awfully good. So there were a couple, but that Providence team was awful good. Okay, basic question, why do you think you guys beat Kansas in ninety seven? What happened that that
week or that night? How were you guys able to do that. Well, that's well, the whole trip down there was screwed up. We got we got in late, and we were supposed to be a practice, and that was that was late and too late. It was just kind of everything was kind of messed up. And then we get on the floor and I think I kind of feel with that whole bunch just like I felt in nineteen eighties Iowa. I don't think anybody that were the players really understood totally what
was going on, if you want the truth. And then all of a sudden, you're out there and you're making baskets and bibi's and like a senior and guys are playing out of their gorse, and then all of a sudden, I think, well, we got a shot to win this thing. And you know, you got to give a lot of credit to the big guys AJ Bramlett, who handled themselves on the boards and stuff. But it was just one of those things I think probably just caught fire in the kids'
minds late in the game. But you know, we stayed with them and we battled, and that's probably what led to the upset. Well, I've always wondered about that, and it was to me I think you know, arguably, if not the best top the number one Arizona win in history, certainly the top two or three because that one, like you said, unexpected, completely unexpected, and then started that run to the national championship. So a lot of fun. Well, Jim, we appreciate you calling back and
giving giving us some of your valuable time. Love your perspective and you know, safe travels going forward, and go ahead and go ahead and take handsOn, the money on the golf course, all the all that you want and let us know about it. Yeah, Dave, Greg thanks, always good to be with you. Appreciate it. Did. Jim Rosborough, great guy we've talked about. You know, we all think the world of him. He's been a great coach. It's been a great two sonan. You know,
just somebody who's just always contributing here. I've loved having that guy around. He moved here in nineteen ninety, so he's been here a while. Yeah, he counts, he counts, so definitely all right, though we got got about a few more minutes if you want to give us a call about any of that. Five two zero four one six Sety just to some programming notes tomorrow. We've got a loaded up show. We're gonna We're gonna
have Francisco or Meyer. We're gonna talk some baseball because baseball gets started for reels on Thursday. Francisco is the Spanish language play by play guy for the Houston Astros. As much as a Dodger fan as I hate to have to talk about the Astro, We're gonna bring him in here. He's a local guy and always a great guest. We're gonna talk a little bit about some women's gymnastics. You have a women's just gymnastics team has made the uh the
the regional in Arkansas. They're gonna be playing in that. Let's take this call before go on. Hi, you're on the air and eye on the ball. Hey you guys, good afternoon, This is Gave. How you guys doing. We're good, Gabe, how are you what's on your mind? I'm just getting over a cold. But in regards to Arizona, they got there. They go out of the round of the three two and they're in the Swiss the sweet sixteenth, so they just need the stack wins on
top of each other and fingers. You guys, so what do you what do you think? Uh, what do you think tomorrow night? What how do they win that game? They no mistakes, They just need to do what. They just need to play, like Arizona Lights against Dayton and lomb no mistake. If you're gonna commit mistakes, well you're gonna have one a plane ticket to home. So you kind of afforded that. That's for sure. That's for sure. All right, Gabe, we appreciate it, Thank
you sir. Down in Arizona, go cast let's kick them out. Gabe. We love Gabe. He's he's he's always got. He says ask sometime during every call. So just so you know a lot of times it's in reference to Arizona State, but pretty often. But okay, so I was running down the lineup. So we've got Jim John Court. Uh, you have a gymnastics they're they're headed for the regional uh at Fadeville, Arkansas next week. They've had a great season and and they're in in the n C
Double As again. And then Ryan Hansen, who's on the radio, is on the radio call with Brian Jefferies. He's going to give us a call tomorrow from La so we'll get his sort of his preview of the game of the game on Thursday, and then no show on Thursday. We're not gonna make you feel guilty about not listening to us while the air Zona game is on. Well you're not gonnaeel. You wouldn't feel guilty anyway. So we're just we're not even gonna try. We're just gonna take the day off on
Thursday. I'm gonna sit home and I'm gonna watch that game. Rivera will be there, and so we're not gonna have a show on Thursday. Then Friday we'll bring it back kind of depending on what happens. We'll get some some folks in here to give us an analysis of of all we can expect. Were you talking about a win and onto the Elite eight or we're talking about a loss that I think if they lose, I think people are gonna still feel not very good about Oh how they how far they got? Right,
don't you think absolutely? Especially since Clemson will get no respect? Yeah? Right? You know if it was Baylor, you'd say yeah, you know, yes, But it's clems to say, well, it's a six syed you should you should beat them? Right? If you go down? I got the media guide here every year at the tournament. You look at the times they lost when you didn't think they're gonna lose it. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of them. They went ten and eight in the sweet
sixteen, which is as good as you could ever hope for. Yeah, And if you'd have asked me, I'd have thought the record was better than that in the sweet sixteen because I feel like there have been a bunch of elite eights and then they didn't get to the final fource. But you know, I know, you know, there were there a couple that stick out for me with with lout there was a they lost to Oklahoma I think, uh that was the one in the sweet sixteen that was just awful. Two
in San Jose. Yeah, the loss, Yeah, they lost. Well, I think the one that hurts the most was the was the U n LV loss in eighty nine than he lost in the history of the basketball you think, So vote yeah, near number one? What would you vote? You know? Yeah, because you know, you know, there are all those first round losses in like to Santa Clair and East like Okay, but the one that broke their hearts, yeah, I think was that one in the field because it came out of nowhere. It was no good team.
Yeah it was. It would have been seat in hall the next day or to the next game, I mean sel last game. I remember walking into the locker down the corridor to the locker room and his mom was there. Yeah, and he was crying on her shoulder. Yeah. Well, Clarence tab from The Citizen had that great photo of him crying on his mom's shoulder in the hallway, just kind of in the darkness of that hallway. I'll never forget that locker room walk in the locker room when they left the media
and Kenny Lofton is just sobbing, just sobbing. I remember that that That was the one that hurt the most because they could have won the national championship. Yep. Yeah, didn't Michigan win. Michigan won that one. But they had a good team but not but not great. Romal Robinson and all that. Well, they beat Seaton Hall for the championship. Could have been
an eight seed. Yeah, yeah, No, I think when you talk about heartbreaking losses, because you know, the the eighty eight final four loss was heartbreaking, but you were still happy that they were in the final four for the first time. Ever, they lost, and they lost a really good team. Yeah, I think I think you could say that that was that was a tough you know, the ninety eight loss in the Elite eight.
But again they'd won a national championship, so it was kind of like, okay, you know, I mean, I know my fan, you know, we had gone to that game as fans, and I know, you know, Adam was five years old, he was you know, he already was devastated by you know, by a loss, by that one.
But yeah, I think you have to say eighty nine just was, you know, heartbreaking for a lot of for all the you know that team, Cook, Lofton, Elliott, you know, all those guys you know on that team, and that it went down and that to U n L V Evolf teams right to Rememberanian I still remember at his press conference, Tarcanian stands up and goes, I sent Luther home and just chuckled. Yeah. Yeah, well we were there for that, all right. Hey, Greg,
thanks for doing this. Thank you appreciate it. It was fun. I'm glad we got a chance to do this and go down memory lane a little bit. But a lot of stuff going on now and didn't get a chance to talk any baseball, but I prefer to not talk baseball with a Yankees guy anyway. So what do you think real quick? Yankees World Series? No, yes, they're already got injuries that are gonna kill him. Well,
I got one Sodo on my on my fantasy baseball scene. I can't wait to see what he does, as long as he doesn't do it against the Dodgers. And a lease. Thanks for being here today, Coo. It's always a pleasure. Take care of yourself. Yeah, nice job on the on the breaking news. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. I already said we've got a loaded group and then we're off on Thursday. So give us a call tomorrow with your thoughts on the Arizona Sweet sixteen. So talk to you tomorrow