Breaking down all the exes at all. It's Steve Rivera and Jagen Salviax. This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteenth. Hey, welcome back to my I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay. Now we have Ryan with the breaking news. This is I on the Ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right, it was funny right to start with the little news from University of Arizona.
Former Wildcat Josh Green was traded yesterday to the Charlotte Hornets. It was part of a three way trade that sent Clay Thompson to the Dallas Evericks. So that's what it's funny, because is that a good place or didn't don't the Hornets like suck? Yes? The funny thing about it is Green had a pretty good playoffs. He had a great final game, would have Game five or whatever it was, and who would have thought, right? But now it's like I've said, it's a businessman. Yeah, what does our
resident MAVs fan think of this? I think it's a good pick up for for the Mavericks getting Thompson. I mean he's yeah, he had a good career. We always had a good career. I shouldn't say had. He had a good career with Golden State, and I think he I think he was MVP one year in the playoffs. Yeah, a long time ago and timing go, but I used to be thin. Yeah, no, not. You know, Brian's gonna call it C Steve. It's always mean.
The only thing, the only thing I'm concerned about is injury because he's had yeah, knee and achilles injury right while back, but he's he's good. Was Green? Did you follow enough to know that Green was so reasonable? Green was a good good fit for them? I was, I was actually hoping they wouldn't. Who would you rather have besides Green? Green or Thompson?
That kind of tells you the answer. He's Thompson's older and Green's twenty four problemson Thompson's thirty four, okay thirty for m The onely thing I'm concerned about is injury, because he said, yeah, knee an achilles injury right while back, but he's he's good. Was Green? Did you follow enough to know that Green was so reasonable? Green was a good good fit for them? I was? I was actually hoping they wouldn't. Who would you
rather have besides Green, Green, Green or Thompson. That kind of tells you the answer. He's Thompson's older, and Green's twenty four problems, Thompson's thirty four, okay, thirty four m thirty four right, and then Green is twenty four and not the help? So who would you rather have? Green? So it was a good trade. I mean, it's a good pick up. You know they're gonna have to lie to lie, is it? Steve Henderson from Southland Catholic who also played on the Canadian U eighteen women's
basketball team in in a tournament a week or two ago. So she'll be joined in I set about four to twenty so stick around for that. Okay. So this story caught my eye on ESPN. Former forty nine Ers safety Deshaun Gibson has been suspended for six games for performance enhancing substances. Whoops, big, You know everybody's everybody's getting confident now once again. I just don't know, with all the technology that's available that these guys still do stuff and
think that they're going to get get bye. Just don't find, you know, figure out a way to do to get to where you need to get to without doing that. I don't understand, just me with so much, so much at stake, right one, you get suspended, you lose a bunch of money, and then that's your reputation for the rest of your career, right that you that you did that, And there's questions somebody, you know, you might be trying to sign a contract and somebody might just say,
you know, you know you've had this problem. I'm gonna take this other guy over here who's just like you but didn't have this problem. Right, Well, mean, and you've got social media nowadays, like everything's exactly. You gotta be careful because everybody, somebody's watching. Everybody knows that somebody's watching exactly. Going back to we were just talking about Josh Green going to the Hornets or he's now a former Hornet. Kimba Walker has announced his retirement
from the NBA. Yeah, how many years, Well he was only he's thirty. He was drafted in twenty eleven, so thirteen years. Yeah, he's on thirty four, thirty four, number nine overall from the Yeah, I remember he was the one your he was on the Yukon team that beat Sean Miller's the Elite eight team. The the the Derek Williams steal. That's really all I had. Okay, that's cool. I think there's anything else. I don't think there was anything else that I saw outside of that,
outside of the storm going on outside the Brody and James. He got year contract guaranteed contract to year guaranteed contract. I think it was two years. But he is a guaranteed contract. So he'll be on that roster, playing with his father. If life is fair. I don't know if it is or not. I know it's not. Life Covers is saying that the over under on his average points per games three three, three and a half. I would say that's about right. Yeah. What about Paul George going to
the seventy six ers. Yeah, we had that one yesterday, talked about that. Yeah, there's a lot of movement now. I think that because the free agency started a couple days ago. We were talking about the massive contracts, right, the massive contracts. Seventy million bucks for Jason Tatum. Come on, man, oh, I saw that seven zero seven zero million to play basketball for a year. One of the funny things I thought that Thompson going to Dallas one of the reasons why he picked Dallas was state state
income, taxt there's no state. When you're making thirty fifty million, What does that matter? Honestly? Stop? I guess if I mean, i'd have let me know, let me know. I want to keep more of my money. That's give me fifty million. I guess I'll find out if that's important. I got a quick question for you. For you guys, well, where does Arizona and football need to finish in the conference to try
to get into the playoffs? Well, to get in the playff they're gon have to finish no lower than second, But for fans to be happy with it, I don't think it matters so much about where they finished in the league as the number of wins, right, But I think the number of wins are well. And now that we talked about the YESA with the wins, we got to go here. But I think your eight is good. I like it. I like it, like nine, even a little bit
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the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacin Salez on Fox Sports fourteenth fifteen. Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Ribera, He's Jacob Sawace. Now on the phone, we have Tealia Henderson Team Canada South Point. All that Talia. How are you I think, kid? How are you guys? Great? Thank you, thanks for joining us. A fantastic young life you've had. Now you're gonna be
where you've played for Team Canada's recently. How was that experience? I think, honestly, it was such a great experience on and off the court. I feel like I learned so much and definitely grown as a person. Was just even like half the lessons that I had to learn in adversity I had
to face throughout this whole process. Where do you think you benefited the most from this experience in terms of do you think it was it just getting to play some more and you know, in great competition stuff like that, or just the experience, the life experience, which do you think you got a little more out of or is it kind of about the same. Honestly, I think they're pretty equal. But just being able to play with girls that
are at the next level. There was a few girls that have already been on the Team Canada team, so being able to play with people with experience. Again, like I said, everybody's pretty much going to college. I was one of the youngest on the team, so kind of getting that like life advice and being having going to be like a mentor for me as I go through the beginning hopefully of my long career, especially with Team Canada.
It was awesome. What's the process because you're what you're junior or senior at some point I'm about to be a senior sor So how did you get to be on Team Canada? What's your connection? So? I was originally born in a small town near Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. My mom was born there as well, so I have that I have dual citizenship. We moved here when my dad and my mom was finishing college and we kind of
just stayed here. So that was my connection. My mom played for Team Canada as well, so kind of following in her her footsteps a little bit. But yeah, really it was just that and that blooms. I always wanted to play for Team Canada. That's like my connection to the country. I think that it's always been a goal to be like Olympics, and this is this is just a step towards that goal, honestly. But do you do you get invited? Do you have to get invited? Do you apply?
Do you tryout? Go to a tryout? How do you get on this team? So certain scouts kind of go and like see how you play on whether it's club, whether it's film, whether it's high school, and then you get invited to try out, and depending on if you stand out or not, you get to go to another tryout and eventually being on the team. I went to showcase last year kind of just showing because I was too old for the team that the main most most of the girls are trying
out for. So it's kind of a showcase to see what I can do, kind of get familiar with the program. This year was my first try in April for the actual New eighteen America team, and then I got invited back, which I was extremely blessed about. And then this next tryout it was found out I was on the team, which I'm extremely blessed about as well. So all this time I thought coach Levana was a very good coach,
but he has players like you, So you know there's that. I joked because he's a friend of mine, but but there's a reason why you guys are pretty good. You have you on the sell on the team, and he has a pretty good team. Yes, I think coach Justin Levano has been a great, great mentor great coach. He's kind of all feared us, all in the right direction. We've had a strong, like freshman
five and then I obviously additions to it as well. And you know, credit to him because he puts a lot of days hours, he's possible a lot of gray hairs. So right, right, So it's not surprising that you're good because your mom played right? Right? Yeah, How has your mom's experience helped you? What does she bring? Is she you know? Is she hard on you? Is she you know, very instructive? What's the relationship with your mom when it comes to basketball? Oh, she's amazing.
She obviously she hasn't IQ of the game, like no, no one's business. So I get a lot of my IQ from her, will watch films, spends the time. She showed me a few post moves and I'll use times of time. But yeah, she's she's been strict on me. She's been a coach in middle school. She's been a big help as I go to high school. Even a big help when I was in Columbia, like she was, she was there trying to get me pointers. Obviously trying
to keep positive but constructive. Considered constructive criticism as well. Sorry, do you have older brothers older sisters? No, I am the oldest of four. Yeah. The reason I ask is because typically when you have an older sibling or whatever, that's how you get better because they knuck you on your butt. You got to get better. You want to be you want to prove them wrong. But you're the oldest, so you're a type A. Probably yes, I am the blueprint for the sibling. So you're the one
that's you're the one knocking them down and all that stuff. So the experience of playing in this in this tournament, you know, you travel, You're down down to Columbia, right, that's where the tournament was. What you know as a as a young person, you know doing that kind of travel. What was the experience like? Was it comfortable? Was it fun? Was it you know, any kind of nervousness about you know, traveling internationally. Uh, you're from Canada, so it's like you know a little bit
of an international person already. But what was that like and how did you deal with all of that? I would say the travel was pretty regular. I'm usually on a plane, whether it's to go to club, whether it's going to tournament, whether it's going to visit. Like, I'm on a plane, so it's not that part wasn't really stressful or scary. I wasn't little nervous to go away from home for that long of a time. Usually for like club season, it's like two weeks, maybe three weeks. But
this was in a different, different country. I had to get like an international plan to contact my family, my friends. So that part was a little scary. But other than that, my teammates and the college or not the college coaches, the coaches that were with me and Team Canada, they did a really good job of kind of making sure that I felt welcome. We all we all made sure that we felt welcome. We were missing home, we'd go comfort each other. Yeah, it was really really nice.
So what's what's the future look like. I'm sure people or schools have already contacted you. I am now resuming my recruiting process. I would like to start limiting down forward baseball. I'm gonna go. I might go on a few more visits. Like I said, just just pushed play on that recruiting process again after Team Canada. So it's we're trying to get the wheels turning again. Is it fun? Is it fun? Is it nerve wracking? Is it frustrating? Ever? What's this process like? Because you've got people
chasing it all over the place. Maybe some people, Yeah, maybe some people you don't want to hear from. I don't know, what's what? How do you take all that in. It's a little bit of all the emotions. It can be stressful if you don't know how to manage your time. But I've built such great relationships with every coach that I've encountered. They've
all been so genuine and nice. And some of the people that I've had to unfortunately say goodbye to, like it hurts my heart because I've made such a great relationship with them and I know that there's different circumstances, circumstances I would go to their school. But like I said, yeah, super super excited to continue this process. It is an exciting process and I've been told many many times to enjoy it, so I'm trying. We're talking to Talia
Henderson from the South Point Catholic and Team Canada again. You know, great experience this summer. So okay, I'm looking at your where you guys have been a couple of state champions championships in your time there, you're defending state champions How do you where do you fit high school in to all these things that you've been doing, whether it's club or this international team. How do you fit all that into everything else that's going on around you and and how
do you know get into the next to the upcoming season. It's been a lot of time management. I've also had a great community that's done nothing but support me, so that makes it a lot easier. I'm sure I'm super excited about the next season. Been training. I haven't seen my high school coaching teammates in a minute, but I know as soon as we go, it's gonna be right back to normal. We're gonna get our team bonding, our new team. A lot of us are set years this year, so
we have that advantage that not everybody else has. We have I think nine or ten people returning. We only lost three seniors, and I mean that's that's a great advantage. So we have that chemistry. It's kind of just getting back on that same track and having that mentality that's their senior year and we want to win. So how is how is your approach to to that in terms of, you know, your defending state champs, you know you
want to win another state championship. Obviously with all the all the players you got coming back versus sort of the feeling or I don't know if you'd want to call it pressure or the anticipation of Team Canada. How are those two things different or are they with with high school? I think you truly build a bond over the eight nine months that you're with these this team. I wish I had that much time with my team in Canada. But Canada is
more of a more of a business. It's very strict. There is incredible competition, but it's also a different type of playing style than I mean to do in the States or even in Arizona. They're a little bit a little bit more aggressive. The rest didn't really speaking like so it is hard to be like, how is that a power? Got to ask some questions, but no, it was it was more of a business. It was more
of a learning experience. There's more college like than what high school. High school is getting to that point and as you go towards the season, you get great games and you get that little bit that's more pressure that I kind of felt even Game one of Team Team Canada. But yeah, I think it's I think it's really more relationships and how you can get better in small settings. Rather, this is just like Canada is just like sticking out what
you're good at, what can you control? Things like that. So you talked about earlier about whudling down some schools. Where are you at now with schools and can you a couple? Yeah? Uh, North Carolina, Tennessee, Maryland. I've I've been new, newly recruited, but like Utah, Oregon, ECU, the some of those great schools Illinois, like they have
been recruiting me for a long time. So I'm in the process of creating great relationships with these new new new colleges, but also maintaining my relationships with these older, very good schools. Obviously nothing local. You're not too far from UVN. Oh my goodness, I'm so I swear that you. Steve Stephen said you're looking at each other like going to Arizona. Well, it's like, yes, I was given Maybe it's the Academy award and forgetting to
thank your parents. Oh my goodness, you sound like a girl beyond her years. What do you hope to study? I think it's I think I'm really leaning towards sports journals. When you're broadcasting, I love talking about the game. I like to write as well, so that kind of goes in the hand. So you want to be broke the rest of your life?
Okay, I see see that's okay, that's Steve. I was going to go with, you know, if you go to Arizona, you can come and be an intern on our show, get some experience, get some airtime, get some clips. I'm going in that direction. And Steve's telling you what he's not telling you. You will work for free, for free, right of course. But well we're fine, and we're old, and in fact, in a couple of years you may not even be here anymore.
So we'll just go with that. But well, congratulations to Lee. This is you know, it's great to see you, know again another local athlete doing so well. You sound great, You sound like you're having fun, which I think you are right, Yes, definitely for sure. Did you did your dad play hoops or no? He played in high school then he went for D one college. You went D one in football and track?
Can you are you better than him yet? And basketball? Yes? My mom, I have a team post moves on me that you know, bulleyball and things like that, but don't tell her said that. No, But that's how you get better. But you but you can take and if you can take your dad, that's pretty good. Yeah. Great, well, congrats, congrats Will. We'll keep an eye on your progress and your success and maybe have you on as the season goes goes on. Sounds good.
Thank you so much for having me, sure of course, thank you again. Good luck with that sports degree, Thank you, thank you. All right. You know, Telia, you know she brings that up and you bring her down. I'm trying to come up with something encouraging about the whole thing. You know, Jay, if you haven't noticed, I'm the realist in the room. You kind of like over the top guy. Realist sounds like you're the bummer dude, man, real reality is usually the bummer news.
All Right, she was fine, Tealia Henderson giving on her there. You know, she's coming back to South Point and trying to defend a state championship. He did a podcast with her guests last week and he said she's very bright, and she speaks very well, and she's executed, didn't seem nervous or anything. Okay, we're gonna take our break, We're gonna come back. We'd love to take your cass five, two, zero, four, one, six, seventy four, forty. What do you think of
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it five two oh four one six seventy four forty. So I want to go back to the conversation we're having about coaches, right, So we'll go post Dick Toby because there's been a few in twenty four years. Okay, So Dick Tomy leaves, you get the anti or the opposite of dictmy and you get macaviick. Before he was hired. Before he was hired, what was the confidence in his success at that time? You didn't know much. I didn't know what to think. Okay. First of all, you know,
I know his name didn't even come up. All of a sudden, he was working for ESPN. Yeah, all of a sudden he said, you know, he said, we've got a coach and it's John mcavick. And I'm like, what, you know, when did that happen? I I was like Okay, let's see what happens. I think in retrospect that was probably Jim Lyvin Goood's worst tire, right right. I was like, okay, let's see what happens. And then I met him and I said, we're in trouble. What do you mean is in your capacity? What
we know? We we put together a golf tournament. There was a fundraising golf tournament that was called the Chuck Cecil Tournament for you know, they got they put Chuck's name on it. Chuck wasn't even here. They put his name on it, and uh and Macavic was sort of the you know, it was four foot raising money for football, and so we had you know, he was kind of a part of it and stuff like that. And I met him and I'm like, I can't I can't stand this work.
So arrogance was yeah, he was. He was. He was arrogant. He was. He just didn't seem to give a crap, you know, And I and and then you just thought he's he's gonna sound goofy. He wasn't cool, right, he was trying to be cool for these for this
football team. He was an old guy. It would have been like you know like me, you know, coaching the team in terms of he just didn't have any personality personality with the players that he wasn't the type of he was a guy, he wasn't the type of personality that would make me as a football player wanting to run through a wall here two and a half and half because you okay, so so that was before the first season, your thoughts, No, this was during the first you know, around that time.
You know, uh, you know, the whole thing about I'm gonna wear a suit on the sidelines, just an upity you know kind of. He changed, He changed MacHale, he changed the officers, costs a lot of money, I think, yeah, all that stuff. So but meeting him, you know, early on, I'm like, this is going to be bad and it's going to take a long time to get out of this. And it did. But it's exactly what happened. So well, he was the opposite of dictomy, because that's what usually happens. They go the
opposite of what they already have. So then he leaves and then you get Stoops, I think Mike Stoops. So before before he was hired or during that process, he's named and you're thinking, great, he's the guy, he's the dame. He was. He was the hot non head coach guy, and I thought he was perfect for Arizona. Here's the guy, uh, you know from a from a major program, knows the ropes of that program. You know, this is a logical next step for him, you
know, being a defensive coordinator all those years that at Oklahoma. This was a very logical next step. I like that he was you know, he was gonna bring a level of I felt he was gonna bring a level of toughness to the program that it had lost, not even not even just during the mac of VIC years, but like in Dick's last couple of years. Right. So I was excited about Mike Stuops. I went to the press conference you know, uh, you know when he got hired because I thought
this is really cool. Yeah. No, I remember that too. I was there doing the stories for the papers. And Okay, so that honeymoon lasted what it went a while, because you know what, even though he went three and eight the first two seasons, you liked what you were seeing. Yeah, tell him he was right, and and the thing I liked the most was how tough his teams were. I mean, they went out there and they traded punches with everybody. Remember that first year, they should
have beat Wisconsin here. You know, they missed a field goal at the end of the game. They would have won that game, and Wisconsin was really good at the time. You're a funny You're a funny man. I've been with you for five years. You come up with Wisconsin, the game and the mission, the field goal, but you forget to post a podcast. How the hell does that happen? That was? That was an extraordinary game because we had a tailgate part at the tail It was a day game.
Remember it was like a noon game or one o'clock game in September. It was as hell and then it stormed at the game and we were so they stopped the game, I remember, and we were soaking wet and by the end of the game, we were freezing because we were soaking wet, and then they got breezy. But that's part of why I remember that game. But what I saw that game was the toughness of that of the team, and you felt that's who Mike Stoops is and that's what we've got.
And I think we were all excited about that and and you know when the team got, you know, progressively better. Yeah, the honeymoon probably ended when Greg Byrne showed up, because it was Greg that eventually let him go. And how long did that last? To me? To me, it went south on him when they got the living crap eat out of him in the Alamo Bowl against Oklahoma State, and you felt like that team had just kind of quit. And it was like, what, you know, because
they were so close. I mean, they were close to the Rose Bowl the year before, right the year they went well, you can even argue that it's really started to fall apart when they played Nebraska in the Holiday. Yeah, and that was just that was bad. They just got bludgeoned right at that time. And you just felt like what happened that they looked like they didn't even be long on the field with with Nebraska that year. And so but there did come a time when you felt like he was kind of
mailing it in. It was fifteen years ago, does yeah, that he was kind of mailing it in. And I'll tell you a little story. So he got he gets fired in mid season, right his last year, he got fired mid season, and my brother and his buddy saw him at a high school football game like that week, the week after he got fired, and they, you know, they went up to talk to him to say to thank him and say he did a good job and stuff, and
they thought he was gonna be kind of grouchy and stuff like that. They said he was so loose, Yeah, and it was like the world that had been lifted off of his shoulders. And you know, the our our opinion was that he didn't really like being a head coach and he and he was more of a good assistant coach, right, and there's people like that, right, that he didn't like all the things that came with being a head coach, you know, the booster stuff, all that stuff. That
was the opinion that we had of him. And I know at the time that you know, a lot of people that I know were involved with you know, they they involved with him kind of because they were doing stuff like you know, the Football Foundation guys were getting to know those guys in the Hall of Fame and stuff like that. So there was some contact with him, and there was just a feeling that he was kind of tired of being a head coach and he could he was not as engaging as you would think.
He was in the community. He was uncomfortable. He was yeah, he was, no question. He did a little, but not a lot. Yeah. Okay, So we went from Mike Stoops to a guy that was kind of still a surprise, Rich Ruck right again, another guy that we needed. We had no idea who they were hiring until they hired him. Right at the time, we're thinking, this is weird. He was out of football for a year, had worked in the media year, and now the reputation was a good one. Yeah, I thought this was I
thought it was a really cool hire. Okay, because here's a guy who had coached at Michigan and even before he was the Arizona guy. I thought he had gotten a raw deal at Michigan because you know that he wasn't a Michigan man and all that kind of stuff, and the fact that he turned down the Alabama job. I'm like, Okay, we've got a guy who turned down Alabama and who was the coach at Michigan and now he's the coach
at Arizona. And we all thought, here's a guy who's gonna come and he's gonna he's gonna try and revive his You know his career, and I said, if he comes here and he's here for three or four years and gets Arizona off the mat, we'll be happy with that. I didn't like the way it ended, but we felt good about him. Again. Another coach that we went to his press conference because we wanted to. We were
excited about it and wanted to see what he had to say. And I just remember him at the press conference saying, you know, why not Arizona, you know, And I thought that was really cool because I thought, again, for however long he's here, this is cool. One of the things with him is his recruiting didn't go as well as he probably think. You know, he went with the okags he had had and coached him up, but he needed to get better talent. It went south, you know
after a few years. I mean that year that they had, you know, the twenty sixteen year when they went what three and nine? They won The only conference game they won was ASU in the last game of the season, and then you thought, you know, but then he stumbles on Coalil Tate and all of a sudden, all the excitement is back. And then it went all to pieces after that. Because of this, the off field
stuff. You know, in the end, you feel like you wonder what would have happened had he stayed, would he have regenerated and gone done the recruiting thing again, because they you know, look, well heard that he had the South Carolina job, and then he didn't get it, and that's
when he seemed to kind of like stop well trying. Even before that, you kind of knew that he was looking looking to go to do really the jet fish thing, do well and get get a better job, jet back, and you know, and I, you know, I kind of felt all along that he wanted to back. He wanted to get back to the East Coast, preferably in the SEC, which is why the South Carolina job was. It was attractive to him right right. And then whatever either he
didn't get they didn't hire him, whatever. Okay, so then he's he's gone, and you're thinking, okay, here we go again. He was the fourth quarterback since a fourth coach since Dick Tomy. Now you get something. You're thinking, Okay, we got a name guy, a guy who has a reputation. Hot guy again, another hot guy, and okay, here we go. And that turned south right away. That that ended for me at his at his press conference, he was not Yeah he didn't win
the presence. I'm like, oh no, yeah he did. I was there in that big room, in the big room. He did not win the press conference. It was again the sense of he didn't want to be here, right, he was going to cast the checks, yeah, but then he didn't want to be here. I sensed that, and I sense that in the press conference. When I watching the press I'm like, oh no, we're in trouble. And then I remember watching him at the at first at the spring game and then at the fallse scrimmage, you know,
and he's on the sidelines. He's just walking up and down the field, completely indifferent to what was going on on the field, like guys were in big trouble. And then we were okay. So then he's gone, and you're thinking, Okay, how's this happening. He's the fifth guy since stick tell me, and then the the higher jed and we're thinking at the time, because I'm sure you and I are thinking the same, who the hell is this guy? You remember the press conferences? Who was like who is
this that? You know? I kind of felt like Arizona is bad, but They're not that bad that they got to go get him, right. I said, Look, the program's in the crapper, we all know that, but it's still a good place to be and it's still got potential. We didn't need we Arizona did not need to take itself down to a level where it had to hire somebody like Jetfish. And you know, I remember
his press conference was during you have a basketball game. I'm working at you have a basketball game, and you know, we've got the thing on an iPad, his press conference, and and I'm like, you know, maybe it was before the game, because it surely wouldn't gone on during the game. But I remember, you know, seeing pieces of it and thinking, all right, what you know, what do we have, Let's see what
happened? Well, it was COVID too. It was COVID, the COVID zoom zoom calls with him, and you're thinking that he's saying all the right answers. He was winning the press conference. In my mind, A lot of people didn't think. But but Jet has the way of he's a salesman. He was. He was a typical salesman. He knew what he was saying. I've heard a lot of things since he's come and gone that he was exactly that. But I felt like everything he said in his press conference
and stuff was calculated very much. So the dude's a smart dude, he's a smart guy. Was all calculated. And you know that first, I didn't put the blame on him for what happened the first year because I realized this is bad. I remember, you know, going to the BYU. Remember they opened BYU in Vegas, and we were all thinking the worst and they played well, and they played well. Yeh right, but you're watching the quarterba and it was h what was the dude's name? The quarterback belong
here? Dude? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, you know, and I thought he just doesn't look like a decent quarterback. He looked good, I mean body wise, but watching him play, he was right. And then you know then when you know, they play San Diego State the next week and we're still outside the stadium trying to get in when they're down three touchdowns and I'm like, oh, this is gonna be really bad. And then they lost an AU and it's like, Okay, it's worse
than we thought. Yeah, because that doesn't happen under any condition. Yeah, so you're thinking, Okay, maybe he's not the guy early, so just just the program. It's good. That was six coaches in twenty four years and now we're here kind of like and I still I've said this for a long time, and talk to Greg, go out this. There was on a football's furst. I don't know where it started. What goat you
had to kill, but there's not in your head. It happened. It happened all I mean, you go all the way back to the Whack that Arizona was cursed, you know, things that happened back there, not even winning a Whack championship all the way back then, and how close Arizona was at the time. They had some great teams under Jim Young, and you just never won that one game you needed to win to win a championship,
go to a Rose Bowl, you know, or whatever. And it's been like that my entire life, Steve, And now you brought me down. Well that was twenty four years ago. You're sixty four, forty or forty at the time when Dick was let go. Yeah yeah, well, well let's hope to get you another good four year, a better four years. Well, you have a guy who wants us to be here. Yeah, and that's that's I don't think he's a good coach. That's a big piece
of it. We'll see how good of a coach he is. Right, it's not a stepping stone, right that we know of, right, as as as best as we can tell, right, Okay, Hey, good show, very good show, a feel good show. Right. Having the guests that we had today, we think thank that all of them them. So all right, hey, thanks for being here. We'll be back tomorrow. Tomorrow is our last day of the week, so be sure to join us and then take the week off. So see you tomorrow.