This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jagan Zalaz on Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services. I'm sure your most prized possessions, Kati z R two sad at iHeartRadio station. Yet. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Ja goon Zalez. We've got a guy Ryan in with us today. It's Tuesday. Last I checked, could it be here? Be well? Yeah, one more day, Steven, then a
couple of days off. I'm looking forward to it. I might go golfing four days in a row. Good luck. That's not that's not that's not a true statement. Leather leather up, that's already point letter. Don't tell my wife, but I forgot to put sunscreen on last Sunday when I golfed. Well, but let me I don't I don't burn. She put you
don't burn until I tell you burn. I mean I looked at myself to be you know, I got home, I went straight to the bathroom to look at my face and see if I was all burnt stuff, so that I could How can you tell you're already, That's what I'm saying. I'm not burned you already, Chris. I'm yeah, I'm just a little crunch here, but not not burnt up. You know, I'm not red. You don't get red. You're over oven an over ovened tortilla. I am that. I'm not spotty. That like, there's no there's no white parts
of that. There's no Jesus on Actually the kind of kind of is that a place that you don't get to see very often. No Jesus on your face, which is fine, exactly exactly. I'm looking forward to, you know, the weekend. You know, it's a fun weekend, fireworks and all that stuff. We like I said, we go up to Mount Lemon, have a good time and uh, you know, just try and stay cool and then usually eat a lot. Now, with an extra day in there to do that, I should I should put on eight or ten pounds
by the end of the weekend. Okay, that's good to know. It's good to know, So welcome to the show. Everybody would take your calls today, Thanks for yesterday for some of the calls when we didn't have it was great. Yeah, today we have a pretty good show. It's kind of all women show. Yeah, yeah, all women and kind of all
international. Right, We've got we've got UH two members of the u US Paralympic women's basketball team, both of whom are U of A grads and both of whom are now on the coaching staff for the for the U of A women's UH wheelchair basketball team. It's a Courtney Ryan and Josie Oslickson, who are headed Tokyo, Tokyo Paris here in a few weeks after they played in Tokyo. Right, they were in Tokyo the last Olympics, so this is
their second Olympics, both of them. They coached together at the o A. And we'll see what they have to say about a second trip to the Olympics. That'll be fun. And then in the second hour you have Telaiah Henderson who she's a South Point Catholic kid who played on the eighteen U eighteen team for Canada. In the most recent U eighteen I think it's a World Cup or something like that. Yeah, they lost in the gold medal game to the US, but she was on that team and she's apparently a superstar
in the making in women's basketball attends. I said, attends stop On Catholic High School, and so we're gonna get her on and talk about her experience, uh, you know, playing in that tournament just a few weeks ago. Yeah, so very you know, interesting stuff. Again, just our efforts to talk highlights some of the you know, some of the people in the in this town aside from you have a football and you have a basketball.
Uh, you know, some of the things that some great people are doing here and things that they've got, things that they've got going on. So that's that's what we're doing with these with these groups. Okay, cool, Well again, if you want to call five two o four one, six, seventy four, forty, we'd like to hear from you, no problem. So a lot of things going on. I know you're gonna have breaking news. There's a lot of stuff breaking news football wise, right.
Uh you know what, I haven't been on social media like all day to day, just been busy. But so I'm gonna find out from Ryan what the hell's going on out there? Yeah, okay, all right, go over that later, all right. Dodgers trying to bounce back from getting beat two out of three by the dang Giants over the weekend. So they've got the Diamondbacks at Dodgers Stadium for three So we'll see what happens. That starts
tonight. We're taking on the Giants tonight. He just beat the hell out of the Dodgers, you know, the one game the Dodgers did win they wanted, I mean, they beat the hell out of them, but took they went to extra indings to do it. So I don't know what's going on over there. It's pitching. They don't have the they don't have the any dominant pitching right now? Oh they do? Should they have dominant pitching? They no, they got a bunch of injuries. They got a bunch
of guys hurt. You know, they're they're probably their three best picture four best pitchers are all out. Oh really yeah, and have been all year line and they're still doing okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing. That's interesting thing is that they are doing okay. So okay, anyways, all right, U what else is going on? We got a lot of stuff. The softball teams in Italy, I think basketball team. Did you
see that that the four four guys I didn't see who they were. The four guys are are projected to go to the NBA next year for four drafts. Four drafts. Lewis yeah, Uh, Jane Bradley, Caleb Love prevousous. Somebody had some stuff about Creevous the other day. Uh. And then if he has a big year, he could be He's not. He's definitely not ready. He's he's not ready to even in a year. He's how can I say this, He's he's a mix of Caleb Tarzuski, very stiff. Uh, he has a way Caleb rustics. Uh. He's got a
lot of the things, but he's not fluid enough. I remember that the NBA is a fluid Yeah. I'm not I'm not debate with you. I'm just saying I read a projection on him that you know that he can he can develop it from what they saw last year, he could develop enough this year to be to be in that in that neighborhood. So who's the fourth one? Okay? So Crevios Crevious is nineteen to the Clippers by ESP A nineteenth nineteen pick. That's pretty generous. That's pretty generous. I wasn't making
it up, man, No, No, I don't. I usually don't think you're making it up. And usually wrong. And when you do make it up, Okay, sometimes I'm wrong, but I'm I don't make enough. Yeah, but I don't. You don't. Just because they put it out there doesn't mean it's legit. But I'm saying I read that projection. I was. I was as surprised as you to hear somebody say that crevious could be somebody who could who could do enough to get to get drafted in
the first round here. Yeah. Well, okay, I just don't see it, but we don't want to Helio, so you said, Carter Bryan. Carter Bryan, correct, Okay, right right, which makes sense. You know, it's active young guy who has a lot of potential. Uh, it'd probably be best to be stayed to at least two years. I mean, it's all about potential, right, well, talk about potential money, Yeah, potential. But but I'm sure they're getting paid pretty well,
That's what I'm saying. If they're getting paid pretty well here, they might stay. Whereas before, if they weren't getting paid here and if the money was there on the NBA side, they were gone. So uh No, I think I think it could be that if he's going to be a low first round draft pick or or maybe maybe not a certain first round draft pick, and somebody might go in the second round. He might stick around for
a year where he might where otherwise might not have. Well, they said they mentioned four, but they only stay three Crevis, kJ Lewis, and and Uh and Bryant. I would assume that they met, but they don't mention wholes in Indiana. He's no longer well, so I don't think they yeah, four names, but he's not a. He's not Why would they include him? He's not there. Yes, I don't know who would you
rather have this year? YEA, probably Crivos because throws. Yeah, I mean, and look, Crevo look really good player, really physical and that. But I think I think Crevis takes a big step. I think Crevis takes a big step where he can be ballowed like he's he's more skilled offensively. I think and and and he and I think and he'll make them and he'll make the damn free throws, you know. And I shouldn't say it
that way. I'm not, you know, I'm not. I'm not puking on on on Umar Ballow because he was great here and he had a lot to do with you know theirs success these last two seasons. But you know you cringed when when they followed him, because he thought, you know,
there's a there that could this could be a waste of possession. And uh And like I said, if Crevis takes, if Creavs takes the step forward that you would expect somebody to take between the friendshman and sophomore year, he could be in the ballot neighborhood already in terms of you know what you know, in terms of being as a big guy, you know, both offensively and defensively. You know, I think Ballo is a little more athletic.
Creevous has some other skills that bollow didn't have. Right right then they were a good combination. He's got to get tougher, for sure, right who Creevous does? I mean under the basket he got he got pushed around, he'd get the ball torn out of his hands, those kinds of things. But those are the kinds of things that you work on in the off season. And if you if you do do better at those things and get a lot better overall, then he can be somebody that again brings the types of
things they do. Morballo did what's a little bit more offense. Yeah, I agree, So I agree, And that's why I'm sure that in Tommy Low's factor of saying goodbye to Ballow, it was part of its branch out over there. We've got a guy. We've got a guy. To let me tell you something. There was a guy before Crebis too and ball Henry. Henry was fantastic. He was fluid from the outside of three pointers. He could. He's a stiff, thin guy, but he was not gonna
bang. He was not gonna bang around inside. No. No, But he's a four. He's a he's a stretch forward to stretch forward, which I think will be great for Arizona having him there too. So if it's not Creevous, it could be Henry and whoever else to have. This is gonna be a pretty pretty solidary. Well uh uh, Tommy Lloyd, that guy that Tommy lawrdy is gonna have a lot of options. He's gonna have a lot of He's gonna be able to have a lot of different looks.
Right. Uh. You know, let's say let's say crevious, I mean not crevous. Vassar's in the game, you know, as the as the five now somebody's got to go out on the perimeter and cover him, whereas with Grievous you don't have to do that. So it's gonna give him some options in some ways to to change things around and keep people, you know, keep other teams guessing in terms of how they're going to defend or how
they're gonna, you know, run their offense against Arizona. To be asking you, but Bradley, I think, right, but do you think he's an NBA guy? I don't know. I don't think we know that yet. He's really good. He's really good, yeah, and for his purpose, right and and I know you give him crap about his aggressiveness and now he doesn't give up the ball. But guys like that they have value with the next half value at the next level because they're fearless. Right now,
they can get to the basket, right, they're fearless. He's quick, he can get to the basket. I think he needs to be a little better shooter, right, right. He's established himself as a little better shooter this year. And if he does that, I think, yeah, I think he's an NBA player. I think I think his game is more shooted to the next level than here. He's tall enough, he's yeah, and he's aggressive enough. I don't give him grieful about that his aggressiveness. It's
just that he's really ball dominant. Oh you still want you give him crap because he goes into the lane and the ball never comes out and comes out and and Caleb will have to learn the same thing. And guess what how many balls did play with just that one? Yeah? Yeah, So you're right, they're gonna have to figure that out. Because you know, the other kid, the kid that transferred the guard what's the name owe? Who are you? I don't know? Who are you to? Kylin Boswell was
more apt to give up the ball than Jade and Bradley. So we're gonna have to see what who's who's who's gotta adjust? Does Caleb Love have to adjust and not seeing the ball as much? Does Jaydon Bradley have to adjust and give the ball up a little more? Do you think that Boswell uh
probably gave it up more than he should have. Well? This year, last year was not a good year for Boswell, had the same Boswell showed up, he got off to a great start, and then he went into the andh he was he was Nope, not confident at all with the shot or otherwise. Yeah. Uh, and I think I love that had something to do with it. However, I don't know. So we'll see. We'll see. It's gonna be a good team. It's gonna be a good
team. It's gonna be interesting to see what their identity becomes. Right are they There's somebody who Are they a team that you know, high scoring team, you know, shooting all over the place, you know, a good defensive team. Are they good inside or I'll only go out on the perimeter? All those things. Yeah, so I posted today. I'll save your stuff for for for first breaking news, but I posted today's poll. They had a poll for media, poll for the football the media already and I
won't say where Arizona landed. I'll say so people were asking is this basketball or football? And I'm thinking, do I also have to post that McDonald's coffee is hot? Because what what? What's the next sport coming up? Football? Basketball? A few months? Plat Poul won't be out for four months last I checked. So it's football and you will probably be surprised be where they landed. I'm gonna have to look, I haven't. That tells you how out of pocket I have been today. I'm not. I've not
seen any of this stuff. Well I'm saying I'm seeing the all Big twelve team. The media also had a vote on the on the league. Yeah yeah, football, where the teams all all conference teams and all where they're gonna rk? Where are they gonn finish? All right, well, I do not have any of that. I'm just and I I signed up for the newsletter and stuff. Yeah, so all right, we'll have we'll go through that. I got a story, okay, Well you guys just want to save you you guys send it to me. Yeah, okay, Oh
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super excited. Last time it was a unique experience not having fans during the COVID pandemic. So excited to have family and friends there this time to share the experience. How's is your approach any different being that you guys are old, grizzled veteran Olympics athletes or you know, is it the same? Is there the same type of excitement? How are you handling it this time around?
Yeah? I would say that excitement is different this time. I think when we went to Tokyo, we were a very young team and we were just excited to experience the Paralympics. But now I think we're excited at the prospect of getting goals and using our experience and chemistry to achieve that. So how much better have you guys gotten four years later? Yeah, we've improved
a lot collectively and individually. Like Josie mentioned, We were a young team at the last Paralympic Games, so we're excited to have that year of experience in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one under our belts now to showcase the world what we got. Now, well, I don't want to put this on you, but you did get a bronze last time, so it's like, is it gold or bust this year? How are you guys approaching that? I think all of us were and are very grateful for the bronze medal.
Right, it's just to metal is an amazing achievement, but I think it did fire us up being so close to, you know, two spots away from getting gold. I think everyone has their eyes on that this time around. So what are the tryouts like? Did you have to go somewhere maybe Colorado Springs workout as like everybody else and then they pick you or what's the process? Yeah, our first tryout was in January and there was about thirty
girls women that were invited to the tryout. It's very exhausting week. We train about six to nine hours a day, including strength and conditioning testing, and they narrow it down to sixteen after that first tryout and then we came back in April, which was in Colorado Springs and had the final tryout where they announced the twelve players and teams teammates. So they're going to be representing Team USA and then for alternate So did you both you feel pretty good about
your chances at that because you're on the team last year. How many other repeaters are there on this team? Most of the team except for their one athlete, has been to a Paralympic support at least one Paralympic, So it's a team full of vetsa at this point, and as a veteran athlete, I think you start to feel more confident about your chances of making the next team, but it is still nerve wracking and you definitely want to show up
to try out as having put the work in. Well, we're talking to Josie Aslexon and Courtney Ryan, both from the UV right they played here. That's one of the reasons why we have them. We're local from UVA. How is that passed help with this future the u of A past? I would definitely say that being a part of the collegiate program here at University of Arizona taught us the work ethic that it takes to be able to represent Team USA. So without that experience and that exposure, it would have been really
hard and difficult to get the opportunity to represent Team USA. So incredibly grateful for those times at the University of Arizona and have a lot of gratitude for what we learned there. So you mentioned off air, Joseie, you're the head coach of the u of A women's team. According to you her assistant. Now, how's that relationship on the floor with playing as teammates? What's that like for the two of you? I feel like we just know each
other really well, and we understand and value each other's perspective. It's special when you get to play with someone so often and then you get to coach alongside them. I think your basketball brains kind of mess, and it's really nice to have that chemistry on the court and on the sideline. Is there actually you know on the court? Can you tell you you know what each other is doing, you know how to you know your moves, those kinds of things. I mean, is that actually going on on the court.
Yeah, Like she said, it's a huge benefit to get the opportunity to coach with each other because we both bring different things to the game that we can elevate for the girls that we coach. And then it's a huge advantage to get the opportunity because we talk basketball so much that when we get back to training camps, you know, it's very easy and we just understand each
other when we're out there, so it's a huge benefit. Well, along those lines, you said that the team is pretty much the same as it was last time. Did you play more games since the last in Tokyo? Did you guys go other places and still have more chemistry or learn more about the team since the last four years. Yeah, we've gone to Dubai, We've gone to Chile, and we've recently come back from China. So yeah, we've we've gotten the chance to complete since Tokyo and kind of see where
we're at going into Paris. What a great opportunity. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, So what's what's the process from here now? From here until you get to the Olympics or what you know? When, what are you doing, how's the training going, where's the training taking place? And then when do you leave for Paris? And when does all that happen? So we
are a decentralized program. All twelve of us kind of live in different areas of the United States, so we trained individually and meet at least once a month to make sure that we're good to go and we're still on the same page chemistry wise. Is really important to have that. So we have one more training camp coming up in about two weeks in Colorado Springs. We just finished a training camp last week actually in Alabama, and then we head out
on August seventeenth. So we're incredibly excited and the games officially start. I believe our first game is the twenty eighth or the twenty ninth of August. Woll Yeah, nice. Could you guys give us some background on your plane or how you grew up, because I think one of you seen some TV stuff was a lacross player and so you're very competitive. I actually played soccer starting at the age of four, so I played soccer from four to My
spinal cord injury happened when I was nineteen years old. I was playing at the collegiate level at Metro State University College of Denver in Denver, Colorado. At nineteen, I sustained a spinal cord injury due to a blood clot burst in my spinal cord which caused me to be from paralyzed from the waist down, and was introduced. That happened in twenty ten, and I was introduced to adaptive sports and twenty eleven and specifically was in love with wheelchair basketball.
I felt like there was a lot of similarities between basketball and soccer, so I was just fooked right from the beginning of that. And it's been an incredible journey since then, since twenty twelve, and grateful for the opportunities that I've had, Grateful for the places that I've gotten to travel because of the sport. And Jose been doing this for I don't know it started at a younger age or something like that. I mean, what's your background on this?
Yeah, my story is a little bit different. I was injured in a car accident when I was five years old, and so in my childhood I was, you know, trying different recreational sports and seeing what kind of clicked for me. It wasn't like I had the opportunity to play sports in
my school system. I had to go to a rehab center and find what sports were out there, and then I ended up really liking wheelchair basketball when I tried that at thirteen years old, and so I played through middle school, high school, got a scholarship to go play college ball, and kind of my career evolved from there as far as getting invited to USA tryouts and whatnot. Then you picked Arizona, Well, I think you picked their zona.
It's one of the best a deptive sports in the country. Yeah, for sure, very grateful to u of A. I was actually a transfer student when I came to the u of A, so I didn't come here originally, but it ended up being the better fit for me to both pursue my academic interests and just the facilities at the u of A are so awesome for a Paralympic athlete to have access to, and it's such an accessible campus.
The weather's great. I come from Minnesota originally, so I always knew that that wasn't going to be the best fit for me, probably as a wheelchair user during the winter. So Tucson's been a really good home. We're talking to Courtney Ryan and Josie Oslickson, both on the USA Paralympic basketball team headed to Paris in a few weeks. Since you're both coaches were and we're
college players. What's your coaching approach? Are you trying to coach players to play like you or do you coach players based on what you know what they bring to the table. You know what I'm saying. It's it's like, you know, we all play sports, but how do we coach them? Right? What's your what's been the approach for both of you in terms of
being a coach? Yeah, I think our style that we've kind of found since we started coaching together is pretty much focused on player development, right, Like we would love to have a national championship winning team, but we do find athletes that come to our program at all different levels of the game. It's not the same as like college D one basketball, where you know you have like you're playing basketball your whole life and you have to have a very
very high skill set in order to make a college team. Like sometimes we have athletes that come to U of A that are newly injured or maybe didn't play mind when they were a kid because they had confidence issues as a kid with a disability and didn't get themselves out there much. So it's kind of courtany and I's shop to boot their confidence and show them the skill set that they're capable of. And I think that that's our passion, is player development.
So it's already July or early July, you will get together one more time before you head out to Paris. What's the next step. Next step is when gold at Paris Paralympics twenty twenty four, bring that home to Tucson. How long is the tournament it? Does it go on for the pretty much the entire Olympics or the week or you know, or is it a week? And how many games do you expect to play? So we start about August twenty ninth, and then our last day is September eighth, is
the gold medal game. So that's obviously the goal there to make it to that game. And we have three pooled preliminary games and then there's crossover games and hopefully it'll be quarterfinals, semi finals into that gold medal game. You know, I've covered two Olympics, and obviously there's some great stories, but I think the Paralympic games have the inspiring stories. Do you get that sense even though you're kind of in it, but you probably meet people that are
that have great stories. Yeah, I mean that's I think part of why we enjoy doing these interviews and enjoy shedding light on the Paralympic movement because I think the Paralympics are sometimes categorized as maybe not as televised or not as interesting,
just not as much media hype around them as the Olympics are. But our stories are just as inspiring, and we have obviously a lot of adversity that you have to you know, face in order to get to the Paralympic level, and it's just as hard to achieve those goals and get those medals as it is on the Olympic side. There are so many Paralympic athletes and
it's definitely a huge achievement to get to that level. So we kind of want to share that with everyone and hope that they tune into the Paralympics just as much as they tune into the Olympics. Well, and I think the beautiful thing about the Paralympic movement is it's breaking down a lot of stereotypes that
people with disabilities faced on an everyday life. So, you know, combating those stereotypes and advocating to the disabled community to provide more opportunities is a huge part of being a paralympian, and you kind of get enlisted as an advocate in that moment when you become a para. Yeah, it makes sense, totally makes sense. Well, Courtney Josi, thanks for joining us. Appreciate it and good luck to you. Thanks so much, Go team usay,
take care of be. Well, that's fantastic, great, you know, great, as you said, you know, inspiring, right, you see these people and they you know all the all that they face. Yeah, you know what I mean, what you know you've sprained an ankle, go through ladies there, you know, it's a life, it's a lifetime. We complained about it getting out of it and it shoulder injury or whatever. And yeah no, and you saw him on TV right right, they're pretty
good. Yeah, obviously they're playing at that's level. Incredibly inspiring. Great, Okay, all right, let's take our break. We're going to be right back and we'll take your calls. Five to two zero four, one, six, seventy four forty give us a bus. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now,
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who's who's the weed? You know what I mean? I know the intent, but you know again, you know, and then and then again to get to the Olympics two times, right, not once, but twice, that's a pretty cool thing, right, Good for them, congratulating and we'll keep an eye on them. Right. Well, that's kind of our We're going to be trying to talk to as many Olympians as we can. I know they're kind of be slim this year. Well the Bravo Bravo put Bravo
young to the lady Snell. Who else we have we have? Did the girl the girl from the Sunnyside, Oxico. You you're closer to her than I am. Audre. Yes, she in the Olympics. She is she wrestling for somebody or I know she went there Panama did that? She she she she was trying to make the US team. Okay, and I don't think she made it. Your Javier, let me know if he's listening. Okay, Yeah, so I don't think there are many. But we also get to Nico's boy, uh, the cyclist that was in the next games.
Guys, So we have to check some people, Nico send us a name on our Facebook page or sending send us a note because we forget stuff Nico. One day's or these days you'll get there. Oh, he's actually probably forgetting stuff for doing other things. Yeah, okay, cool. If you want to call five two, four, one, six, seventy four forty h uh, you're we're gonna talk about the poll here and breaking news, right, you're gonna wait for that. Yeah, we can wait for
it. Do you have a lot of stuff or a few things we can talk. Let's talk about the ten We got twelve minutes. Maybe we'll get a call. Uh, so it was I don't know if it was a surprise to me, but Arizona was picked fifth in fifth in that uh uh conference by the media. It did have five guys uh in the first team, the second most of any team. So that's kind of a contradiction, but that's just what it is. And I think the I don't know who the media. I know I didn't vote. No one asked me to vote.
I know that Sheer posted something on Twitter that he had or I don't know if he voted, but he has Arizona number one, and the knock me over with a feather, that's yes, you know, he's a he's a. He's in. I'm not I'm not picking Arizona number one. I think, well, you know, three or four, I guess because you know, Kansas State is pretty good. I don't know enough about Oklahoma State and Kansas and certain look, I think it's you know, it's one of
those things for the media doesn't know, right. I just don't think they know that. I mean, they know enough to know that Utah is really damn good. They're and they're mean, and they're nasty, and they want to you know, they want to kick your ass and take your kids and your girlfriends and everybody else. Did you see the poll? Yeah, I've
got it up right now, you know. But so you know, Utah is kind of a no brainer, especially when you think, you know, Okay, they're coming into a league that's got Texas and Oklahoma gone, so not surprising that Utah still but you know, Arizona's a team that I just don't think they know enough about. Okay, so they're gonna say, you know what, I'm not picking them over Oklahoma State and Kansas Okay, So Kansas State is number two, right, Kansas State number two, so that
we had them as a loss, right, Yester? Yes, uh, and they're a steady number two. There's strong number two. Utah got twenty first place votes, Kansas State got nineteen, so there's a lot of people that think Kansas State can win the league. And Oklahoma State did. Don't play Oklahoma State, do they, I don't think, Okay, so they avoid that one. Ne't number three don't play Kansas either, which is which is a strong up and coming football. They're not Arizona foot right, you
can flip those two back back and forth. So if they picked Arizona, I guess when you look at them and you go, Okay, I understand why you picked Arizona fifth. It makes sense, right, it makes sense. Do I think Arizona's gonna finish fifth place in the league. I do not. I think they're gonna finish no lower than third, third, fourth, or I think I think I think they can finish third. Partly, they don't play Oklahoma State or Kansas I don't know who that's good or bad
for, but Arizona's got a favorite. Look at look at the teams that they do play at the bottom. Right, they players on a state. Who's picked last? They play Houston here, who's picked second to the last. They played by you, who's picked thirteenth. Right, they play Baylor, who's twelfth. They picked Blake. Colorado is eleventh. Tco in Texas go eight nine they play They play seven, seven through six team except for
Cincinnati. Let me tell you something. That's the hell of schedule in taking your bet from the the eight, I like that bet now because six of them are way below. Because you look, you look at the top of the standings. Okay, Yes, they do play Utah. They do not play Kansas State. They do not play Oklahoma State. They do not play Kansas. Those are three teams picked ahead of them, and then the one right behind them, Iowa State. They don't play them either, so so
you know they've got it. They've got a favorable schedule. You know, you go up and and look, well, Kansas State is not even a conference game, so even though they play Kansas State doesn't count. It's not a conference game, so that game doesn't figure into the into the Big twelve standings. So you look at that, all the teams that Arizona plays plays in the league are below them except for Utah. That's a hell of a
schedule when you come to think of it. And I'm thinking, if I'm the media and I see that and actually do some analysis and look at that schedule, I probably move Arizona up a notch or two. Well, you have to also compare it to the other schedules, right, Oh, you know, the Kansas schedule might be favorable too, But you know Kansas and kandas State play each other. Yeah, sure there's a loss for them too. One of them is going to lose that. Yeah, I think it's
a well. One of I was with somebody today who's a booster, and he talked about okay. He was a little surprised too. He says, okay, but what that'll do is motivate them to be better, you know, because fifth is you know, fifth is like what is it like? Okay, yeah, we're we think we're better than that. They can put a chip on their shoulder over being finished fifth. It's better than the right coming off of beating their you know, their second best team from last year.
Uh well, you can argue that Oklahoma State got in the conference championship game, but Oklahoma was pretty damn good. You know, Oklahoma was a ten and two team, and then Arizona beat him. So it's fine, you know, Okay, let's go Arizona. You know you're you're you're pick to finish fifth. Let's go. Let's see what happens to play the games. But I but looking at this, you have to have to like Arizona
schedule. I didn't see I saw the list of people. Let me just see if I all big twelve and they were there were a team mac wide receiver, offensive line, Jonah Savanea a place kicker, Tyler Loop, defensive player Jacob Manu, and Cala Davis. Uh No, mention of your quarterback Noah. Yeah, would you take Noah over Sanders in a heartbeat? Really in a heart beat? Wow? Because of what and not not that I'm I'm not not that I am, uh, you know, all in on
on everything that that Vic says. But I agree with him from the standpoint that Norfa he just has something, all right, I could see, I could just see that should should dor Sanders if things go haywire, let's say early in the season, him just having a bad year because of the expectations he has for himself. Uh. And And I don't. I don't know him, and maybe that's unfair for me to say that, but I feel like we know a bit about no offa. Hey, I think I think
I totally agree with Vic because Vick has an insire thing. He's so friends with his dad. But I think one of his big points is what he does off the field. He galvanizes this team, right. And we talked about this, you know, when I's Lamar. I spent some time with lamon uh and I said they played harder for him than they did for uh, for Dylan Delora, And he said that doesn't happen. I saw it, And let me tell you, they did the rest of the year too,
And I think that's where they say I like this guy. In fact, I love this guy. I don't want to he has the Steve kirkfactor. Yeah, I'm not going to try to. I'm not going to disappoint this guy, right, right, And that's what I'm saying. That's why
I would take him in a second. I think we saw a couple of door Sanders kind of lose his mind a couple of times last year, you know, where they were having a tough time and things weren't going his way and he was you know, and then just all the hype that's come with him. Look, he's got a dad who lives for the hype, so maybe he's got somebody there to advise him on how to handle this stuff.
But there also has to be some stuff that you just are right that that that who you are, what you're about, and you know your main you know, he means to be seen. Whether Shador Sanders has all of the intangibles, right, he is the quarterback of the league. He is the first team that I have fine, and a lot of it probably with the hype, but you know, the guy is talented. The guy is talented. Yeah, you know, he's he's he's a really great athlete, you know. And the you know, I mean he he had he had a
nice game against Arizona. You know, they almost won that game, but they didn't, right, And that's all I know. You know, I know that Noah Flafiita and that team went up there last year and beat those guys at their place. So to me, Noah Flafita has got you know, he's got one Nutch in his belt that Shador Sanders does not. And and again let's remember, as good as he everybody thinks he is, they went four to eight last year. Well it tanked on the final, yeah,
final a few weeks right exactly. And and and and what I'm saying is that you put nor Fa in that in that position, they don't tank. Yeah, I think that's I think that's that's a big difference. We will see and look, Okay, so no if this makes probably makes no Ala hungrier as well, I'm gonna show, you know, I'm gonna show not not only the league but the country. You know, I'm the best
quarterback in the Big twelve. And he's gonna go after. It's gonna be a lot of fun because it's it's territories we don't really know about or see very often. They don't see Arizona very often. It's gonna be a fun, fun year for season. Yeah, I agree, I agree, looking forward to it. I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be cool. And I'll see again, We'll just see. We're hoping to get some A d s or more administrators from in the coming weeks for as we get
up for the Big twelve. I'm curious to see and we've we've asked this, you've asked this to request, Uh, does Ray to come on? I'm curious about tickets. How that's going. Well, their ticket prices are set for how they're selling, how they're selling, Say how much they're how they're selling, because that's key, that's key. And if you have a little hype coming in and they do, don't they how that's going? Yeah, I mean there's been a lot of excitement Steve, since you know,
the season ended. You know, from the day that they beat Oklahoma and the Alma Ball there's been a lot of excitement behind this program. I know that there was some people, you know, we went through the whole coaching change and stuff like that. But I do know, I do feel that in the end, with the fact that these the players stayed, there's there's still a lot of excitement. People like what they're seeing from Brent Brandon so
far. I mean, even without knowing whether or not he can coach, people are very happy with the higher So there's so there's a lot of a lot of people out there behind this team. Let me ask you this, Uh, we we know what Jad did, but so that's a little you said that we don't know if he can coach. Brennan. We know he can coach, he's at level. Do you think do you think do you think you come in with more questions about Brennan than you had for Jet?
Oh? Hell no, exactly. That's my thanks. Thanks for the answer, because and in that tone, because last you're coming in two three years ago and coming in with what the hell are they doing? What are we doing? And what are they doing? And what do we see? What do we say? You could have had Brent Brennan. Then you went, yeah, Nau and this is not a knock on Jet because he did a
fantastic job. We just didn't know in the first few weeks, right, you know, had Colbot come in with the COVID team, who knows, would have gotten you no longer. But you know yet, to Jet's credit, he turned it around and did a great job and he now found a better job, a better paying job. But you have less less questions about Brennan than you did about Jets. Yes, because you again, Brand's been a head coach, he's got some ties to Arizona. All those things are
you know, matter to to the fan base here. So yeah, no, I I one hundred percent agree with you, And that's a good way to put it. We don't have as many questions about Jed as we had
about about Brennan as we had about Jed. So yeah, and in fact, you didn't really find out whether Jed is a good coach or very good coach third year till his third year, right then you thought, okay, you know, and he got these he got these players, and then he put them together, and who knows, and not to disregards what he did, he might have caught lightning in a bottle. He might have he might have well after after the lightning broke down in the first three weeks. Well,
first of all, there was no pressure here whatsoever. No pressure. He couldn't be worse than what Arizona had. Yeah, Okay, so you go up there, you go to Washington, he's under pressure right now. Sure, if they have a bad year after being in the National Championship Game, there's gonna be questions, regardless of the fact that you know, they lost some players, they lost all that stuff. There's expectations up there that he did not have here, and he's gonna have those expectations year and then
you're out and he's in the Big ten. Okay, we'll go back to this because I'm gonna quiz you on some of the past coaches and the confidence that you had on them coming in. Okay, after Dick, after Dick, we got to go here and we're gonna got breaking news on the other side. Cool, all right, let's take our break.