Tuesday, December 12, Hour 2

This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzale. Sound Fox Sports fourteen to fifty. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio while just surgery I on the Bar. Hey, welcome back to I the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jackinsauce. Now we have Kevin with breaking news. This is I on the Ball Breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. This in time, So we do have some Arizona

transfer news to start out with today. We got a new big boy on the defensive line, big large six to three and fifty pound transfer named Chuba Mai. Wow. I saw three seventy. He did you say a lot of numbers? I said, he said three fifty. Somebody said three seventy. Somebody else said three forty. By the way, it's a large man, big dude. A lot of a lot of a lot of men out there to try to move. You came from is the Long Beach, Polly? Yeah? Okay, No, but he's a he's coming out of a

he's a no, the the the defensive back. He's out of UC Davis. But big, big dude. And you know we were just talking off air. You know, I just remember, you know Joe Drake who was just a mountain of a dude who played nose guard for Arizona in the early eighties, and uh just was you couldn't go around him, right. Uh. And one the famous things was that in the in that eighty two ASU game, Uh, he got two safeties. Again, says you, they treat you a ball on the gold line. They tried to run up the

middle and he just stuffed it, stuffed him twice. So well Spears said, he's six two, three forty seven. So we're gonna have there. You have to investigate, you know, when you're up in the three forty three seventy, it's kind of like another drop of water. The fuck it right, it's like show his contract. What's you know about seven and five million? Right right, going right, right, right right. But we do have more transfer news. Steve was almost on it. We do have

a new Indiana player coming in, uh dB. Jordan Shaw played four games last season before he redshirted, but he did have a nine tackle performance against Wisconsin. You know what we got to do one of these days, maybe we get these interns doing some crack research. The guys who went to with coach Brown and see how they ended up doing, because that was a big

deal. He took some pretty good bunch of guys JB. Brown, I think, and some of the guys in the defensive blackfield who were pretty good here and decided to go with their coach right right, And you know, and again, I mean, there's so much, you know, so many guys that come and go. It's kind of like it's even hard to keep track. But how they go, you know, I mean, how did

those three guys from USC really do? I know, we've talked about Dorian Singer because of his stats, but then you look at Christian Roland Wallace and what's the name of key On Bars. You know, did they have really good years? Yeah? You know, I don't know that we know apples and apples, probably not. But Riley Leonard, the former Duke quarterback, I don't know if you guys remember the early start of the year that they had. They had a pretty good start this season before he went down with

the ankle injury. He has now transferred to Notre Dame OH. Via his x account, Twitter whatever you want to call it, today he posted a nice little video of him walking through the grounds, kind of getting familiar with this. He had been rumored for a while because Sam Hartman was out of there. So, you know, I think against you had the conversation we're having yesterday. You know, these guys where they can go for a year and do well or two years. We think a couple of years after what

Leonard might have two Okay, you might have two. I'm sure we'll have to confirm that. But and then when you guys got of touched on this earlier, but I thought it was really interesting. Noah a fida, his salt and pepper shakers gotta be the same way, facing, always facing. I read somebody you did you read the story? Yeah, I was kind of giving up so and Jay read the story. You know what. The first thing that thought, just randomly, it did it remind you sleeping with

the enemy? Oh god, dude? Associated where they where the towels were lined up cans in a little bit? Yeah, my brother you know which one? Rick? Rick? Yeah, yea, it makes sense, makes sense, but not in a bad way. It means just who you are, you know, you know, I wish I were like that open his over my brother's pantry and every you know the ketchup bottles are all lined up, you know the cans are different. What's that? I don't even know

what that is? Prigerators exactly. Yeah, you should see our you should see our pantry. No greens in the frider what like? Like you you you re you reach in there and you don't know if you're gonna get bit by something or what right has words ecosystem. But yeah, interesting story by

Doug Holler if you haven't read it. Doug's a frequent guest of the show with the Athletic, So if you got a subscription to me, that's like he did a really need profile and know if of just talking about his well here's his His dad said people hate going to his house because there's nothing out of place. Uh, and you go there and and he was asking his mom if she cooked because he thought something was up because the salt pepper shake were not facing the right wing. No, I get it. It's a

crazy thing. Yeah, I get it. I have certain things that you might like my mad cave that it's moved. I know that someone's touched it and didn't And yeah, I mean I have certain things like that, but like, like not a lot you know, and plus when you you know, when you've got a house full of people that don't live like that either, right, right, right, you just kind of go with the flow, right of course, of course. Yeah. And then we have someone

who's out of Florida today. Ashley Moody is the Florida Attorney General, and she is issuing a subpoena against the college football Playoff selection Committee after her seminoles were snubbed. And I think Jay has something to say about this. Well, God, I don't know where to start, but the Florida Attorney General actually moved to launch an anti trust investigation into them keeping Florida State out.

I don't know what you think you're gonna find, what you think you're gonna do if there was some all broken because Florida State didn't get into the playoffs, don't I don't know. But you want to talk about a waste of time, effort, and taxpayer money. I mean, like, this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. Their governor was was, you know, saying the same thing. He's running for president, so I don't even want to throw his name out there, but you know, this is such

a so ridiculous. It's sports. Yeah, And we were talking in between the break about how it kind of reminded me of in November we had the Virginia Attorney General right do the same thing for their James Madison team, even though they had quite literally agreed to a contract that would keep them out of Bowl selection for two years. So it's kind of like, you know, it must be election season. So yeah, so now her office is going to you know, commit a bunch of staff to go collect all this in.

It's got a list of the information that they want, including emails and notes and communications between the conferences and the committee and all stuff, and like, what are you doing? What are you doing except just trying to say, okay, you know, vote for me because I'm I'm you know, I'm doing this. I don't know. It's just ridiculous. Yeah. And then for any hockey fans out there, we do have Connor Bandard playing It's

Connor McDavid tonight to the league's best superstars facing off. You don't get that all the time you lost me at hockey, I figured I did over there. Yeah, Like, okay, am I supposed to know those guys person Bagel and Mustard, but you might as well throw formula one out to us. I mean, because we we got nothing, man, we got nothing.

And that's that's honestly all I had. I mean Pat Mahomes, you know, like you mentioned Kevin Durant again not playing tonight, and so that those guys can't seem to get their their big three on the court all at the same time. An interesting one. That's gonna be interesting to see how it develops because we I think we talked, did we, Stephen and I talk about show his contract and now he's he's structured, so six hundred and

eighty million of the seven hundred million is being deferred. So he's only going to be paid twenty million dollars while he's playing in the in the TENU on the ten million year, two million year plus. You know, he's getting all his endorsements somebody I heard a number of fort He made forty six million dollars in endorsement endorsements last year. But you know the word is that, you know, it's in terms of the taxes he's going to pay whenever he

starts taking this money. If you were to get if you were to get taxed in California, it'll be ninety eight million dollars compared to the three million dollars he's going to get taxed on the money he's right. An important thing to note is that show, hey did this in a very smart way. I was I was reading through I believe it was Jeffasson's Twitter. I can't.

I don't really know for sure, but he would. Someone brought up how if you are not a California resident at the time of the deferral payments, you do not get taxes same so if he moved to Miami, Texas, right, he's just getting the full Well, and that's that. That's the law right now. But what they're saying is California is going to say we need a law and we need to get some of this money, and that they're gonna go They're going to try and figure out a way to go

after it. Isn't that crazy where sports contracts are at right now. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable, unbelievable. Yeah, I did think it was It was pretty cool, but I thought it was cool to see what show If he's making two million from his contract and he's making tens of millions, you know in endorsements. Why does he need all the you know, he'll go to a state that doesn't have incos Florida, I think Texas, to Texas, Florida and Texas. You know, he'll go live in one of those

places. I think in Vegas, Vegas if they have a yeah, yeah, so it says show, Hey, we'll make twenty million from twenty twenty four to twenty thirty three, and then six hundred and eighty million dollars from twenty thirty four to twenty forty three. Crazy. If you guys are familiar with the story of Bobby Minia, yeah, oh yeah, we know all about his contract, Bobby, his contract payments and in twenty thirty four thirty four, just thirty four. Okay, so he's full transition of power from

one long deferral to another long deferral. Yeah, it's great, he did it right, all right. You need to throw this one out there, because we talked about this back when it happened. But that San Diego State punter got drafted, got accused of sexual assault, then they decided not to prosecute clear or whatever reason. Now the lawsuit that the that the alleged victim had filed against him. She's dropped the lawsuit and he's dropped his defamation suit

against her. So everybody's just walking away. Nobody's paying anybody anything. But you know, nonetheless, I think his football career is still in the because because he was with the Buffalo Bills, he got he got drafted pretty pretty immediate, was with the team until they started got pretty quick too. Yeah, so that that that happened today his uh, his uh, the lawsuit was dropped by the alleged victim, and so they're just the things over apparently.

So anyways, I just had to throw that one out there, all right, And then Caitlin Clark got another n I L D to become the fourth college athlete to get to get a D with Gatorade, I mean, no one better, right, Yeah, And it includes it includes a a i'd call it a community service amount that Gatoray's putting some like twenty two thousand dollars into a foundation that she's that she's formed for, you know, money

to go to worthy causes. So so you have been paying attention to the off sides from the Kansas City. So Mahomes was caught, you know, yelling and screaming at the reps and anti anti Mahomes actions. And this is pretty much coming from general public who just watches football. You know, how do they do that their competitors. I mean, I'm not gonna apologize for him, but you know, he was pissed because there was called, but it was it was clearly over the line. Two days of it. It

still continues. Yeah. Well, and I mean his receivers have been letting him down week oh weeks after a week, sure after sure, between these last two weeks the bad we're not bad calls. This one was a genuinely good call. I saw video. Daniel Lofski was talking about it. Tony was offsides four different times in that game. He was lining every time he lined up almost he was that exact same amount offside. And it's so easy

to not line up upside. All see the receivers, they go out there, they point at the rest, they checked, They tell them and and and and uh what's his name? And you know Andy Reid came out and said he did not check with the ref on that particular play. Like it's all on him, It's all on him. I heard Mike Gollick on a show just say what the hell? You know, they don't give defensive linemen a warning when they when they get them for lining up offsides. Why should

they give a receiver he said? You know, he said no, I said, I got called. I don't know how many times I got called for being over the line. You just it was a call that needed to be made because it was so blatant. You know. The ref said I couldn't see the ball from behind him there, which meant he was standing in front of the ball. Plain and simple, you throw it. And he threw the flag immediately and it wasn't on the raft. It was the guy

who was over the line. Yeah, so I think I think white people are so not worked up about this, but it's got so much attention. Is that Patrick Mahomes the scene is a good guy, good sports, doesn't complain a lot, and he's losing his mind over there. Yeah so I get that, and that's kind of where I wanted to go. But the normal person, the general fan doesn't get that because, like I talked to when we talked to the Francona, these are competitors. I mean, this

is what they do. Uh, and you're screwing with what they do, and you get pissed. I mean, come on, how many times have you your coached or you played and you say that was a bad call and you go berserve your use your mind because to me, you it's everything, and it's as simple as whatever. It is, a bad striker, a bad whatever. And I remember when I was a kid and I played a lot. I used to be paid in the ass. I got tossed from games in three different sports. Well, given your take, given your takes

on the show, that's not a shock, not at all. But you understand what I'm saying. I mean, he should, he makes millions, he should be able to run. But and you only get so many cracks at the apple at football. You know, if an umpire messes up a call in baseball, all right, we got one hundred and sixty one other games to try to make that right. So did you see one of the

memes. It's funny to be so with Kelsey and Taylor Swift. The people who don't follow football or her followers, right, Oh, isn't it nice that Taylor Swift let them use the arena for the stadium, But she's always in. Come on, it's just people who don't know. Yeah, and they don't know. But it's funny. This is a nice us. All right, let's take our next break. We're going to be back. Helena Player, senior guard for Arizona women's basketball. They got a big game tomorrow

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He's Jagginsaus. Now on the phone. We have theres little basketballs Helena Poya. How are you doing, Helena? Hi? I am doing pretty good. Thank you for having anything. Thank you for joining us. Welcome to the show. We hadn't talked to you since you've been at that. We were talking how did you go five years without being on our show? I'm not really sure, Helena, but we thank you for being here today. Thank you your decision to come back. How big of a decision was

that? I mean it was pretty big for me. I mean I was I just wanted to come back for one more years, you know, having the opportunity to have been a part of this program again and just like you know, like win more games, you know, take this program, you know, like this and I just wanted to come back and just play for my coach. Well, when you think about you know, again, I was saying off, Eric, I can't believe it's been five years that you've

been here. I feel like you just got here. Think back to your decision on coming into Arizona, why you came here, and if any of those things played out, has it been what you expected? Not what you expected, because it was just different. I mean, what kind of thoughts did you have coming in? I mean it was a really litle thoughts. I always wanted to be a white before, and just like having the opportunity to have one more year. And also for me being from a different country,

I don't have the opportunities of o there. So I'm just trying to enjoy this time here one more year. So I'm just trying to, you know, like take this team really high and just having the opportunity to play for my coach at the Avalance and just just I'm just trying to, you know, like win more games. When you first decided to come here, what did she sell on you to come here one? And when you came to Tucson, I'm sure it was the first time you ever visited Tuson.

What were your impressions. I mean for me, just the big thing for me just being a different like from a different country. Just for me, one of the most important thing was the fans, the huge far I think also here in Susan, so huge far. So you know, like the family we have right here, like coaches like Calgos. He helped me a lot doing my whole recruiting. He sticks funny, so he really helped me

a lot with the language before. So I would say that when you think about you know, where you were as a freshman coming in as a player, Uh, you know what kind of players were. Obviously you were good enough that Ada Barnes thought you were good enough to play Arizona. What are the things that you feel you've most improved on, you know since you've been here, that you feel really good about the development that you've had. Are

there some specific types of things? Yeah, I mean I would say first my defense, Like I didn't really play defense before when I was in Spain. I was more like as an offensive player, so I didn't really like learn how to play defense. Are good, So now I think during these four years they teach me really good to like play defense, that's why probably I go like more like award for like defensive players, but I mean I would just say defense. And then also you know, just like being more

aggressive. Just I mean, I think I'm more like as a leader right now of the fifth year, just having more experience. Yeah, you're going to talk about defense. I thought you were a defensive player coming in, but I was wrong. Not too many players, men or women at this age want to be defenders. Well how did that come about? I mean, as I say, I mean I've been working on defense right now for

like four or five years. And also you know, like I'll go, like a deal, they just teach you like they're like, you know, the small details. I think that's really what helped me, just to learn like the program, the system here, the conference. So I think that's why when when if I were to ask you, you know, what is it what's the most important thing that you think you're getting from a Dea Barnes in terms of what she wants from her players, Right, you know,

there's got to be something that she sees when she recruits you. So what is it that you think is most important to her about your development as a player? I mean I would say, like leadership. I think that's a huge point, like especially now as a fifth year and now you know, just like somebody who can play like both ends like defense and offense. I think I learned the system really fast, and I think that has like applause for a player and just you know, being able to understand every since she

wants as a defensive I'm not so like offensively. So probably the last night. How has the last four four plus years now been for you, given all the success you've had, uh with with Airy and and all that, how has it been for you as a guy as a person coming in as a coming in? I mean for me, it was really great having you know, every man Donald and I mean that kind of play will help me a lot doing the four years for me. I mean, I've been looking

like how they learn, how they play. I'm just trying to get all of them, like everything from them and just trying to like, you know, convert that stuff into my game right now, just what I'm trying to do. Let's go back a little further. You know you became a basketball player in Spain. When did basketball become your sport? Was there was there a particular time what other sports did you play, were you interested in and how did basketball become the sport that you were going to play. Yes,

I mean I really I always like to play sports. I loved to play soccer before. I was a goalkeeper you know, in my school before. So I mean I'm start playing basketball when I was like four or five years old. So my older brother played basketball before, so I think that's probably why I started playing basketball. But yeah, I was, I started really

really John. So, So let me ask you, given that you're Hispanic, you know, albeit from Spain, and the community here is mostly from from Mexico, has the community adopted you, given you your Spanish speaking? Yeah? I mean every game we have your city people you know, like Ogain Spannis to me. And that's really really nice because you know, I get the chance it's ogan spanning with with other people. And also like really

feels me like to be like at home. Well, has a family or two kind of adopted you to kind of maybe visit them and feed you Mexican Mexican food. No, yeah, but I'm waiting for that. All right. Well, we'll have to take care of that. We got to make some contacts. Somebody give Helene a call well, does she have a favorite restaurant or do you? I mean, I really like Whatalajara is one of the Mexican places games and I really like right, yeah, they're good.

So let's talk about this years team a little bit. You guys are seven and two. You've got a big game tomorrow with Texas, obviously something that you know is a big challenge for you guys. But what what's the makeup of this team again? You know ideas, you know there's a big turnover and roster, a lot of new players. How have you guys been able to kind of start coming together after these first nine games? And where do you think you guys are as a team? So, I mean as a

day and as I've seen, we're really a really young team. I think we're just still trying to figure out like how to connect every piece of the possible. But I think we're just doing a really good job right now. I think there we are all learning from our mistakes and at the end of the day, I think that's what you have to do. It doesn't matter what teams you have to in front of you. You just want to, like, you know, like pray hard, just go for the win and

just and we don't care if we're like eight players with ten players. We're just going to do our best give percent every game, and even if we're a joint team, we just like learning, and especially me and Esma and Martinez as a fifth year, we're just trying to like you know, like give some experience to them and just like teaching a really small details. I was going to ask you, since you brought it up before you, how is it is it scary not playing with very many players excited when you get

more playing time what you're feeling. I don't think it's scary. It's just I think it's actually like better for me. I think because you get to play more with the same people. So I think you just like get used to and you just like learn from that and you just you know, like play with the same players at the same time, it really holds you. And then practicing a lot. So it just I think it's just like easier to play with the same players, and that's what we're doing, right.

So I don't want to bring up a bad thing, but you guys got beat up pretty bad at YOUNLV and then you came out against San Diego and just throttle. Those guys only allowed them thirty eight points. Was there something that happened during that time that you guys, you know, did you get a fire lit on you? Did? Ad just say, you know what did she? How does she react to that with you guys to get you

to come out the way you did against San Diego? I mean, you just gonna get hit sometimes, and I think it's better before season and stuff. Right now, so I mean we I think we're going to like lose games with this. So I'm the thing which is like trying to figure out some stuff from the court and just I mean, as I said, we're a joint team. I think we're really we're doing a pretty good job right now. We're just like practice more, just like trying to learn from our

stuff. But I mean I think we sometimes you get hit, but you also like get hit back. So I think that's what it is. So what did you get your degree? And what do you have your degree in? And what do you hope to do after Also I have my degree in psychology, and after college, I just want to play overseas back in Europe. I would look, I mean I would like to play in Spain, of course, but you know, any country that they want me to I would be really happy to go for. But yeah, yeah, so it

is there. You know, how's the international basketball over what we call it internationals here. It's not international to you when you're over there, but you know that the level of basketball over there, how do you think you can fit in over there? I mean the level is really high. I played before in Europe and I think it's I mean, I love that game. I love paying in Europe. That's I think. That's how I'm as a profive player right now. I love Europe. I love playing in Europe.

So I mean, I think I will feel really good. He also depends on the team, you know, the league, but I think it will be a really good place for me. I'm guessing you guys, you know you've got Texas tomorrow. I'm guessing you guys have been watching you know, some film and getting ready for them. What do we expect to see tomorrow night with Texas? So what kind of team are they? You know, what do you guys need to do to win a game? These guys are

top five, so they're pretty good. Yeah, I mean really good team. One of the best in the country. Rank is five. So I mean, I think it's a really big opportunity for us. We need all the support from too soon. We need to pack my kil tomorrow, and I think it's a really big tallenge. We can show who we are and that's we have a big opportunity. I mean, I think I know they're a really good team, but I think we have we can you know,

like say them and just show them who we are. And you know, even if we're like let's players, just go hard and just show them. Well, Helena, thank you for joining us. Very much. Good to hear from you. Thank you all right, appreciate, good luck to good luck tonight, thank you, thank you great great to have her. And again mentioned it's a teddy bear toss tomorrow, so if you are going to the game. I've been hit by a few of those at those games,

but they're they're kind of fun. They're just a ton of teddy bears get thrown out there. I saw the road Runners are doing one too, so okay, I don't think they do that the men's games, but no, it's kind of a yeah, but yeah, it should be a good game tomorrow. It's at seven o'clock at McHale. Number five. They're number five, texted number five and the eight people and so we'll see man, you know everyone who went over and beat them at their place, you know,

a couple of years ago. So this is that return game. It should be fun, It should be fun. Super gonna talk to her. Yeah, yeah, it was good. I thought it was interesting to find out she wasn't always a defensive player. No. I thought she right, right, right, right, because she that's what she specialized in the right right. In fact, she doesn't take very many shots, right, and she's

one. I mean, I think she's one of the leaders in the league and steals and those kinds of things, and she's been a real good assist person. She's uh, you know, she just a kind of a good all around game. I know a lot of people think she should be shooting more, but if they're scoring points with the way she plays, then this is that's the most important. Is she one of those proverbial blue guys?

I think she is. Here's the thing. When the ball is in her hands, right, you know, you feel like it's in pretty good hands. Right, she doesn't make very many mistakes, you, no, right, and she she you know, she's in charge out there. But you know, she she's only averaging four points a game, but she's averaging She's got twenty nine steals in nine games. That's ridiculous even with a small roster. Yeah, that's a big number. She got thirty two assists in nine

games. You know, those are big numbers. You know, there's a big numbers. She blocks shots, she doesn't have a lot of turnovers, so it's you know, it's like, okay, so you score a lot, but you don't do the other things. Which which would you rather have? Right? So she's you know, again five years you can tell when she walks on the court, you know what is doing and you can always find someone to light it up well, and that that's been Kaylen Gilbert that

you know, she's basically the new point guard this year. She's been really good. She scores a lot of points and she'll shoot anything. And then they're trying to get Jada Williams, who's a freshman you know, to come in and stuff at that position. So they've got a good mix. It's just they're very young and very new to the program. So it's kind of changed everything again. So see what happens tomorrow. Okay, all right,

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Steve Bravera and Jagen Salez they have their Eye on the ball on Tucson Sports Big Jet, Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live. I mean iHeartRadio wire. Hey, welcome back to I in the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jiggins. As We've got e with us, we got Kevin with us. We got fourteen minutes going to call us. Please do five to two oh four one six seventy four forty you'd like to hear from you see what we're up to here. Interesting conversations today,

man, yeah, different, guess yeah different, yeah right. A couple of good guests. But Jerry francon in the first hour if you if you missed it, the podcast will be up pretty close after the show and then Helenaquayo just now. The funny funny thing with Francona is that we really don't know him, right, We just know we've talked him a few times, but don't really know him. But it's a it's a conversation like we've known it for a long time. Yeah, for a long time. It's just

a casual kind of like what we want to do here? Yeah, we're just two dudes at the bar, halflip talking. Ask you questions. Sugar sugar free coke or not? Where's it? Uh? I don't know whatever? Coke? I've got zero zero there? Couldn't think that's it? You have something in there now or what? All right? Steve? Going to get our Christmas tree today? Are you? Yeah? So you get one live? Yeah? Yeah, we go get a live one and then yeah and then by the by the time it's done, man, getting it out

of the house is the worst thing ever. It's like it just drops stuff all the way to the door. Got it, put it on the top of my car, take it to a recycled place. But it's quite a thing. But just the season. It is the season. It is the s So our family gets together and does this. It's a big deal to the family. You know, it's the first time for a grand kid. So and I won't remember, well he won't, you know what, And we have to figure out a way to keep him off the tree. Off

the tree. Well, you could get him as many presents as you like. The best president will be the the wrap wrapping paper exactly. The wrapping paper makes noise and he'll be going in and out of at least that's how it is for four year old two year old? You are? You are on correct? Yeah? What's his denty frog? Now? I want the paper? Oh a bike? Give me? I like the paper? Yeah you know, no, it's no I hear you. That's the way. And you know, what's what's the favorite favorite gift you've ever had? Very

gift? It's uh, it was actually last year because idly tilled the switch and the new Pokemon came out, game came out, and so my brothers they both buy it for me, and so they give They came with the two Pokemon games and they give one to me. How long does that last? And you know when you have a kid, you play with it for a day and then you throw it away and you know, you give it a how long you're still playing it a little bit? Yeah, we're getting

okay, all right, let's take the call. Hi are on the air and eye on the ball. Hey, I'm gonna make this real brief. How you guys doing the show. The show is great and I heard show. He's going to defer most of his money to where in the end, almost all about twenty million or something, right, that's what. Yeah, you obviously missed that part of the conversation, but yes, he's yeah, I didn't listen. Yeah, and the podcast. I'm sorry for calling you.

That's you not but I'm going to slam you Jay totally because of your swill. You play you know, for bumper music. I love it when the other guys play it. I just got to hammer you. I could never listen to a podcast here if you still play your if you're in charge of the music, Wow, terrible. Hey I used to be. It's terrible, inner sand man, you know, step on a crack from Devo

anything, but that's Will. Well before before you, before you start yelling at me about this, I'm gonna tell you that Steve and I are kind of on the same page on the music. He likes the music I like. Yeah, But then again, he's the guy that had a mullet, So get me a break you Steve doesn't count at all. Cut this guy off. I'm out how he said he came on for thirty seconds and just lit both of us up. Holy, he tells me a dinner Now,

that's probably why you you, Kevin? What's your favorite? Your favorite gift? I think I would I don't know. I think it's probably close, like I like you right now. I think it changes year by year. I don't know if I have one off the top of my head, trying to think I don't have a one off top of my head. I would say close, I can wear for the year. Let's let's see you again next year. You know, yeah that I got to go back to a little kid, right I once I got a baseball and you baseball glove for

Christmas and it was like an awesome glove and then hot wheels. Oh yeah, yeah, when you're really young. Yeah, I was probably like seven, yeah, yeah, like yeah, seven years old. My almost a BB gun if I can remember Carl BB gun and uh maybe a Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders poster. I have a BB gun story because my dad didn't allow we didn't have guns, but you got what. My brother Jean had a BB gun and he did agree with it. Then I got a BB gun and

I would have been nine or ten. I opened it on Christmas morning and I shot my sister the next day and that was the last time I saw it. Was it by accident. No, oh, got her right in the leg, which one was like, oh, she tell me, she is tell me that story. Yeah, she is. I wonder she's pissed at you. Literally, no, I take it back. I opened it on Christmas Eve and I shot her on Christmas Day. You have the short

lived with that gun. It was gone. It was gone. And the good thing about it is my mom took the gun and didn't tell my dad that i'd done. Of course, and somehow my sister never told me, you may not be here. I would not be here. I would I would not be here. Yeah, no, one hundred percent. Because that was his little girl. She was she was like five or four, and you did it purposely. She had skinny little legs. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure how I was. It was just for talking practice. Didn't want to shoot his own eye out, so he said, you know, I got to use this thing. She was not on his fantasy team, so I can that wasn't. The thing is it was a lucky shot, okay, because I'd been we were shooting at cans and bottles. I hadn't hit anything. And then like she's jumping around, she's yelling her to make it and I'm said, I'm gonna shot you, and she kept her on shot her, you know, so that that would have been my favorite gift

if I had had it longer. I swear I never saw the TV gun again. I don't know if my mom was able to take back or if she said it on fire? Was she pissed? Oh are you kidding me? She lost her mind? You're lucky she was. She could have killed me if she did. Well, everybody knows about it, but nobody told

my dad. I don't. I think my dad might have gone to his grave not knowing that I shot her, which is probably a good thing for me as well, because if he had have found out, if he had, if he still would have found out when he was seventy, you still would have kicked my ask would you with him? Yeah, he would have. He would have said, yeah, you know, you shoot my little girl? Are you kidding me? But but again, it was a lucky shot she had. She had like you know, it's like one of his

pigs. I hate to use the term. She had kind of chicken legs as a little girl. She was knock kneed in the whole bed and I don't know how I hit her at the thigh. I think she still has a mark. You remember, it's just a regular you know, kmart bb gun man. I mean, you know, back in the day, there weren't very many choices. You just got gumping. And I'm pretty sure my mom was like, I'm not giving you a bb gun. How old were

you? I would have been nine or ten? Yeah, I would have been ten, ten years old, And like I said, I hadn't hit anything all day. We lived behind a convenience store over here on Park and Park and Bilbi. There's a convenience sto right there. We lived right behind it, so there were all kinds of cans and bottles and stuff that we got out of their trash cans and stuff to shoot at. And there was

like a dirt lot next to him. So we were doing target practice and I didn't literally didn't hit a thing until we were in the backyard and then a shot. Well there's there's something to be proud of. It's it's still a family story, that's what it really is. Pretty funny, Okay, So there you go. You asked, Yeah, well that's actually pretty funny though. Okay, we got about six minutes. Anybody want to call, We'll get a last minute mullet story. I guess Hey, let's talk about

the show tomorrow. Jack Holl coming on, a former Major leaguer, laid at Pima, laid at the u of A, got into the major leagues, played a bunch of years with the Angels. Yet he got inducted in PEMA College Sports Hall of Fame over the weekend along with Gil Heredi, who was on our show yesterday. So, Jack Hal and I've talked about Jack

Hall being one of those guys who just did the work right. I had a friend who was his age playing high school baseball who basically said to me, I don't know how Jack Howell is making it because he wasn't that good in high school. He was obviously good enough for Rich all Day to bring him in a Pima, sure, and then and then he good enough for Jerry Kendall to get him to the u of A. Then obviously good enough to get it and have a great career. Right. Well, he comes

from a very strong athletic family. Yeah, his dad played basketball right right. And then of all things, I coached with his son Dallas at Saint Gregory. He was the baseball coach Gregory when I was a smoer. So we would travel together to games. Oh the girls and the guys played the same school. Yeah, yeah, just different fields. Yeah, because we had to travel to you know, Alfrida and Aho and you know places like that, so the teams would go together. Mixon, Yeah, Mixen so

and so he was the baseball coach I was. I was the softball coach or an assistant softball coach, I should say, with Jim, with Jim know, with with vic Vicuna named Vicacunya. We had fun. We had a lot of fun. So those guy, he'll be on tomorrow at three fifteen, and then we believe we're waiting for confirmation of a U of a basketball a man's basketball player tomorrow. So we're not gonna say who it is because we're we haven't got confirmation of it. But we were just waiting to

make sure that that we're going to get that guy right. And then on Thursday, we're gonna have Donnie Salem right, we're gonna talk to him. I asked a couple of questions about Gronk just there. He's very close to that family. Yeah, just kind of being a tag along guy. Yeah, and spending some time with that family and how crazy it'd spent. I remember being there the day that he got a scholarship. He was a walk on. Were you there? It was the coaches right, remember where you

know they were. Dick had got the players on into practice and he announced that Donnie, and it was that whole celebration, right, everybody went crazy, right, No, I remember, And he's from Denver, I think he was from Denver. Was very tough dude, just a tough dude. He was a badass. One of those moments in time, you know, for me, didn't have a big impact on me from the standpoint of you

know, Donnie Salem here was a guy, but for some reason. That's one of all the things that I remember from those seasons, right, that's one of them. I remember in his scholarship. Yeah, what a cool deal that way, Yeah, that's true. That And you know another one back in the day is was I don't know if you went to the to remember we to go back to the the team posts, the awards ceremonies. I don't met the Hill and I can't remember what but Cedric Cedric and he

was giving the wards out and Cedric talked about Anthony Smith. Anthony Smith and his you know you guts familiar and remember any Smith is and he said, because he came from Alabama pretty much had nothing in blah blah blah. And he says the one said the saying, The one advice I got from Anthony is you can always live without hope. Oh you can, you could, You could always. You can never live without water. You can always live without water and food, but you can never live without hope. Given his

situation, and then we all know what happened to Anthony Smith. He became a first round draft. Let's just say, some big, big trouble. But one of those guys, it was very big and very intimidating, obviously very very very very good at what he did. And it was at the time of the Singletons and and and and that group. You know. I I interviewed him for the sort of the consummate Anthony Smith profile, right, and you could get a guy alone. Yeah, And we went and sad

it's seats of McHale. Good dude too, though, he very good seats at McHale. And he started talking. He started talking about his past. I could tell he's getting really mad. And he might kill me right now. Yeah, but he was what he said he was. He was opening about a lot of that stuff. Yeah, very very back and back then, a very just humble guy, you know, spoke Yeah, but again got in some big, bad trouble. Right, let's just say he's in

prison right now. But unfortunately, but Donnie sailing from that from that group of guys, you know one you know, the toughest defenses that you can argue that you have ever had. Right, that was the beginning eighties, the beginning in the nineties. Right, well, you know what I try to try, Well, he hasn't responded mcduf. I'm trying to reach out

again. So you know, kind of the beginning of the of the year what became desert dessert swarm, right, because we covered him in eighty eight and eight the ninety and you were out right and then you know, like the fastball, but it was that start, right that start, and that's where Dick was building those defenses that were just crazy good. So Donnie Salem will come up and then again we are off on Friday. Steve's got a

head out of town. I've got stuff to deal with this weekend, and so we just took that Uportune. We're going to take a day off on Friday, so Thursday will be our last show, and we hope we'll be everybody back on Monday. We'll be talking about that. Purduers on a game, all right, purdueers on a game. I'm not gonna be here for Wednesday, going to the Phoenix game, uh, you know, Alabama game, and then Friday again with the biggest game. I will be here on

yeah, if you insist. Yeah, you'll have a good show with the kids. You're gone too, Yeah, you're gone. You're going to the game in Phoenix. Yeah, okay, all right, I guess on radio, they really don't know who I'm talking to you. Yeah, exactly, Like okay, Kevin's like pointing at you. Okay, No, good show, guys, all righty, good show. Thanks for you. Kind of get it, you kind of see yeah, I kind of get it in

high school just a little bit. Yeah, all right, carry the two minus the one, all right, all right, and then take us out. Let's get out of here where. We'll be back tomorrow again. Jack Hall, Jaye and Bradley will be here. But I just said it right. We're hoping to get him, so I just I just spilled it. Okay, all right, we'll see you tomorrow because Cat, I'm gonna have a good samp holding in that set the box in the Atlanta Sass. I'm gonna get loose. She's on fire and he's so fun.