Tuesday, August 8, Hour 1

This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen, powered by Nova Insurance Services. Make sure your most prized possessions kat z R two side and iHeart Radio Station Yet. Hey, good actornoon. Everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jagon Zos. Got a guy Jason in today for a couple of hours. Welcome to Tuesday. A lot of things going

on as usual. Let me ask you, Jay, So, so for thirteen months, a lot of people hemmed in hot and stowed and wondered what and all this did the did the hype of the change or possible change meet the expectations when it's all over, I think it did. I think, you know, as much was written said about it for all all those thirteen months that once it got, you know, once we find out what it was, I think it was. I mean, I think what happened was

monumental for for for not just college football, but college athletics. And I think it was I think if I think if the Pac twelve would have held together and that and we would have kind of stayed where we were, it would kind of been anticlimactic, but since there was this huge change of what this thing's gonna look like, I think it, it became an even bigger deal, actually than than than it seemed that it was going to be. In fact, before the show started, you were talking about Sanky and what

he was talking about. Then everybody's either as their opinion right over whether it's good or bad or what it means for football. But tell me what he was saying and how you and your thoughts about well. Greg Sanky was on Paul Feine Bob Show today on ESPN and he said that he goes, I know that we're the ones that went and got Texas in Oklahoma, but you know, we were kind of like, you know, we're still geographically aligned, YadA, YadA, YadA. And he said, but what's happened since

then and make has made me feel really uncomfortable. And I wouldn't say you, but had you started this he started this uncomfortable way, what I think what is what his exact words were, Uh, let let me find what his exact words were. Uh, but it was basically that I was uncomfortable with what happened last week. It's funny. It's okay that we did it, but I didn't want to see everybody else, right, But then everybody else did, and that now that now it's a bad deal because everybody else

did did what we did. I find that the hypocrisy on in that is

just incredible. Let's remember that. And it's incredible but typically typical. Let me say this too, though, in the next few years, I don't know how many years it's gonna happen again, and it's gonna expand even more and and and that's fine I and I, you know, all along, I kind of felt like at some point this was going to I think this is gonna blow up again in five or six years when these contracts are and that's when I think we get to where there's like, you know, what,

what we've talked about, you know, sixty teams in four conferences or whatever, you know, relegate potential relegation and and and all that kind of stuff where you know, not everybody gets to play in the big boy sandbox. And I think that that's ultimately where we're headed. But what I've got a problem with right now is that you know what happened happened, but don't sit there and say, well, we did it and it was okay, but now these other guys did it and that was crap. That is,

but that's typical of the arrogance of the SEC. It really is. He said, I didn't like to see the PAC twelve falling apart. Well, you helped it fall apart. You pulled the street, right you. You pulled the first Jengle you know, Jengle block out of there, and then the Big ten pulled the last one. So don't tell me you're sorry to see what happened. When what you did led to all of this, let me say too. And I don't know much about the media rights and all

that stuff. I know it's worth a lot of money. I didn't know that Apple was in bed with the Fox on TV. I guess it is ourselves watching the rally, the Rally on Valley or Belly on Rally, whatever it was. Uh and and Jay and John said yesterday that in time. I know he's just talking but he doesn't know. But it could very well happen where Apple comes in and buys does everything right, I guess what will stream. Well, that's the way the tea maybe the way it is.

And yeah, right, I will pay one hundred bucks whatever a year to watch these things. Uh and for different teams. I guess they do that at MLB. I did not know that because I don't watch m MLB, has A has a two MLB mls and then don't forget there's there, there's Sunday ticket. You know. That's a streaming thing. That's a totally streaming thing. Now. Whereas before, if you had direct TV, you could channel Surf on Direct TV to the games, now it's on YouTube TV.

It's one hundred percent streaming and it costs more. Yeah, it costs than it did. So you're gonna have to really be a big fan right of doing You're wanting to get used to doing that. Yeah, you're gonna get You're gonna have at some point you're gonna have to get used to. I'm not gonna be able to channel Surf the way I do now because if I've got Comcast or Cox or whatever cable company that you have, I found, he said, Greg sank you said it wasn't a great feeling to see what

happened last week. I would say you launched on that. Sure, No, he did. So, JA shouldn't just be aware you might have a job after you graduate. It might be me and figuring out how to fix my phone, how to find these games. Little tutoring. Yeah, yeah, but no, no, I'm just gonna it's like I told you yesterday. It's like fixing my BCR or my little thing. You know, did your program this for me? Please? You know, look, I'm I'm

not dabbling in this. I mean, I've got some streaming services. I do have Apple TV, right, but I got what do you get from it? Movies? There's some you know, there's an MLB Game of the Week, so there may be a Dodger game on a Friday that's blacked out everywhere else. The only place you can get it is on Apple TV. So I've got that, and I pay for an Apple TV subscription. It's

only eight bucks seven bucks a month. Not a big deal. According to when Robins talked yesterday, he said that the PAC twelve might might have cost a hundred hundred bucks a year. Whatever that is. Yeah, so, uh, you know, I I do that. I've got I've got well through my cable, I've got HBO Max, I've got ESPN plus, I've got I've got subscriptions because I because I get them through my cable, but I would have I think I would have those subscriptions if I didn't have cable.

I've done the math to see if I should go to YouTube TV and then all these other streaming things. But the problem again is I'm a channel sir. I'm not ready to do that yet. And it's more well, part of what was holding me back was that you couldn't get the PAC twelve network on YouTube TV. If I'm not going to need it started in twenty twenty four, I may go ahead and cut the cord. It's say it would save me money. But what was holding me back was PAC twelve network

wasn't on YouTube TV. And you can channel Surf on YouTube TV, but so many of the things that you're gonna channel Surf two aren't on YouTube TV. God, I'm glad I don't know anything about any of that. I'll tell you what if if we can hold this show together for a couple more years, I'll show you how to works. No, No, Jay, I mean, Jason, how do you watch TV? I don't watch TV. You don't watch I don't watch I mean you watch stuff on your phone?

Yeah? I watch you know Okay, you watch programs on your phone? YouTube, Netflix, that's to me, that's TV. Okay, you know I'm talking about watching programming that's on the screen. How do you watch? So yeah, I'll watch like streaming like you know Hulu. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, right, No, my dad does your dad? Well, okay, somebody pays, but you watch it just on your phone? Do you have an iPad on your computer? Computer? And my

phone? Okay, that's how you watch. Yeah. But when I say television, I'm talking about you're watching programs that are on a screen and not just Yeah, I came for sure, but that all everything you watch is streaming. Yeah, I just remember, Yeah, I mean Steve, he's the future. No, No, of course, anybody under thirty, probably your son is that way. He's he's broken it. He's the only thing he's He's got Comcast Internet, uh, the fastest speed he can get.

I remember when I was I was the remote. Did you see there was a thing on h Do you ever do you follow super seventy sports on Twitter? I'm gonna send you. You gotta follow him. He's hilarious and just a couple of days ago, he posted a picture of one of those big giants TVs that sat on the floor, big cabinet, and he said, he said, from back in the day when I was the remote control. I used to be the remote son. Get up and turn the channel.

But the good thing is only a three channels, so you don't we had four, actually five we had. We had Channel eleven, which is with the local cheap. I don't out there because we never went there. Hey, we had championship wrestling on that local and that's where all the Arizona games that weren't broadcast on well they're almost never any Arizona games broadcast on network. That's where we got our Arizona sports on on the local. Uh channel eleven.

It's KAZYAZ at the time. I think it's CAMSB now right, okay, anybody want to call Phillison, what's going on in your lives? Whatever? Five? Two, four, one, six, seventy four forty good show today, A lot of news type of stuff today. Right. Brett Ferrock, we saw him at the press conference at the Tommy Lloyd and not Tommy Lloyd, the uh Bobby Robbins Dave Hicky press conference as him to come

on. We just want to talk to him about you know, he's a sports editor at theaters on the daily start, well what's in store for the for them covering the Big twelve and not so much talking about all the travel and stuff. Just you know, we're now we're talking different deadlines, uh, you know, different teams, just what this is going to be like, you know, getting up to speed on on the on the Big Twelve. And then at four four fifteen, Bruce Pasco, who's heading out with

with the basketball team to uh Israel on their trip. You say he's gonna be out on the layover when we talked about Yeah, he's no, No, that was supposed to be Tomorrow's fine, So he's he's still in town. They I guess they head out. He's gonna be covering the basketball team on their trips. We're going to pick his brain about about that trip, and it's gonna be very secretive. They have yet to announce any any viewing

because of that, they're not gonna tell people where they're at. I think Bruce has been not that they dictate the media, but it kind of be Watch what you're saying about the team, right, Bruce, It sounded like yesterday, I know Tommy was poking at him a little bit, but he's on a little bit of a leash in terms of what he can and can't say about this trip. The thing he was poking him about was, you know, you can't be reporting back that you know that this guy started,

so that makes him a starter. Everybody's gonna play and so don't you know, don't be reporting back that this five started. So that's some sort of a starting lineup for them, right, So that's why he's gonna be, well, not why he's gonna play. Everybody. Everyone's gonna have equal time, different starters at all different points. So to the this is just more of a trip getting together, bonding, uh, seeing how the guys react,

stuff like that. I probably the more valuable thing in all of it was the ten full practices that they got very much that they wouldn't have gotten if they weren't doing this pretty much to get a look at his team. So, I mean, there's some value to this. And I know, you know from not I know, but we saw from the conversation with Palt Larson and Umar ballis they're more interested in the basketball and yeah, they're gonna

go do all the cultural stuff that Tommy's got. Come on, dude, you're going to you go to San Francisco, you go to disnealand with the family. The kids don't care about the trip. Are we there yet? Let's get there and let's get on space. Sure, sure, they don't care about the quitterre we eating today? You're paying for it. So they just want to get out there and play some basketball. And as you said, some of these guys are in the national players Internationals like a regular thing

for them. Sure, sure, well, which is great, you know. The good for the domestic guys, fantastic. Many of them haven't left the country. I know. I would have been very fun. It would have been very fun to have you been overseas Australia and Greece. Those Olympics. Not on my own, but those were Olympics. Those are Olympics. Thankfully I got someone else paid for otherwise I wouldn't. I'm not a big after all these travels, I'm a big traveler. I'm not a big traveler

either. I mean I've been I've been overseas for some work, been to China a couple of times, went to the those China basketball games. Those are controlled. They were they were. I was with the group. But my wife and I did go to UH, to Italy and Germany and Austria as a sort of a kind of a late honeymoon kind of thing. It wasn't really a late honeymoon. I got extorted, I got told that we weren't gonna have any kids. But I took my wife to Europe. So

I immediately signed us up and we went to Europe. It's called marriage, yeah, those low poles. Yeah, And I'm and I'm telling you the the actual language of that was not too far off of what I just said. You give us a call. That's true. It's a true story. And UH. And so for our I think it was our first anniversary.

I got I went and I booked us a trip UH and gave it to her, you know, as as a present, and then we played oh really so that that would have been in October, and then we went on this trip in UH in March. It's been thirty one years now since we went on that trip. And we had a great time. Do you have clinics? I want to cry, give me some And it was cool, dude. Maybe you know, maybe by doing stuff like that, Steve, you might still be married some lady who maybe like get you. I couldn't

say any Chris the next subject, next subject question. Okay, so let's get ready to take a break. We can have a fara on today. Brett Farah. Come, he's fresh off, fresh starting this job of walking into something right, right. But he's very thankful because he was unemployed for a war right before this kind of layoff and reapplied for that job, got it back and working again. And then he's Greg Hanson's boss. Yeah, which I don't even Greg. Greg still writing this around? Yeah, hero,

Hero a Sunday column. He's in parts unknown. Come on, he's well, he's up. He's up in Colorado, man place. Greg, good by us over here. We'll do the show from there exactly. Okay, Okay, let's get out of here and we'll be back with Brett Farrell. For more than twenty years, the Window Depot has reminded the best price

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back to our of the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen. Cookie, Steve Ribera, he's jackins Oz. You know we're trying to get a hold of Brett at a little late in the in the break before we started dialings we'll get him here in a second. But you know, just again, man, what's the what does all this mean? Now? There's a lot, I mean, so many impacts of of this, you know, whether it's you know, we talked about all the stuff within the you know, the

schools, the travel, all those things. But then you know guys like the guys you know, covers who cover sports, you know, the media, the TV networks all that stuff well as you know, and we'll talk about this one when it comes from but a TV isn't traveling as much as they used to. Uh, you know, given the COVID situation, They're they're doing games from home or not from home from the studio. Jason,

I'll have him call us from the studio. In fact, I ran into the hike today after the press governs in the halls, and he talked about, you know, the changes. I said, yeah, the changes, and I said, you know, realistically, over the last few years, there are only three dudes that trans traveled with the team. It was me, Bruce and Greg consistently for all these years. The periphery people didn't travel until Vegas or sent or whatever. So they can talk about the Big twelve.

They ain't going to the Big twelve. They're not going to those sites. Yeah, you know, I mean, you know, you'll go to the conference tournaments and stuff like that. But I don't see how you know, where where the where the news media is financially how they can travel to those places. Yeah, not anymore, and and and and it might be tough for the Star given the frequency of the trips and things like that. Right, so we'll see. Hey, Brad, is that you okay?

Brad? Sorry about that. We're having trouble dialing you from our lot over which happens from time you are on the air, So we appreciate your colleague. All right, So, well, we just wanted to get into this with you about first, just give us you're you know, you're a sports fan. I assume you are, since you're a sports editor. Just some of your thoughts about all that maybe went on for the last thirteen months, you know, do you hate it? You know? Are you okay with

what we wound up? What overall thoughts about everything that's happened. Well, I think and I know, Ma that going a lot of people's sentiments. I think losing the Pac twelve and what we've known it as a PAC twelve fact and for so long is a shame, and I think that echoes what we all think. I think that echoes what Robert Robbins has said with Dave, he has said in the end for Arizona. Of course, I think it's the right move considering everything that happened. I may be in the minority

on this. I believe Robert Robbins was what he said yesterday that he was ready to sign in blood for the PAC twelve on Friday morning. I actually believed him. I have no reason to say I believed him or not. I just heard him say it, and he becomes off believable in that thought. That doesn't mean that would have even been the right decision, but I

believe that's what he intended. I think that he comprehends sort of the second to market strategy of you know, let somebody else take that poise until first, and when Oregon and Washington did it, you know he was ready. It was interesting when we were able to ask him about how the decision making process when you mentioned the thirteen months, it feels like for how much they were able to sort of prepare for twelve and a half months that the last

two weeks was just break next pace as well. Yeah, so I guess as prepared as you can be, you can't ever be too prepared, because it sounded like B and DPP were in a room with whiteboards and you know, pizza boxes and just banging out ideas NonStop until they came up with option one, Option one D and Option one C. And you know, one of those ultimately ended up being the Big twelve. So, Brett, we've been talking about streaming and linear and all that stuff. You're about what forty

forty yeah, forty forty one. So so are you? You're right on the custom of of the TV era and now the online era. It's gonna go eventually to the online era. How are you? How are you feeling about that? And and the and the newspaper business has changed dramatically in the last ten years too well. I think I think if I use this in terms of the Pact swelve, if the Pacwelves CEOs the presidents would have decided to stick around and give it a go, I think it would have been

growing pains before the success. I don't think in this one area that Larry Scott was wrong eight nine years ago when he talked about non linear programming. He has the future. It's just to get there you have to be willing to risk the pitfalls and the values. And the PAC twelve would have struggled

for a few years. Whether the pacwelve network would have failed in the process of that, whether the schools themselves would have been able to withstand the financial problems that that you know, potentially could have been if those numbers weren't what with being or if the escalators were in place the same way. That's obviously something we'll never know. But eventually, at some point, the idea of a non linear solid structure to one of these deals is going to be the

deal. It's just that the pactweal presidents weren't ready. The one fit departs weren't ready for that today. So the linear and nonlinear packaging that the Big twelve and Big ten offers these schools was good enough for today, tomorrow, and at least the next couple of years. So, so Arizona is in the PAC twelve, I mean in the Big twelve next starting next year. Is there something or some things that you guys have to do to get ready for that or you just kind of take it as it comes and do what

you need to do. I mean, how do you prepare for something like this. It's such a major change to not only what you cover, but who you cover. I think it's actually fun in this sense because for the next eleven months we now have any different pieces of different angles to go with on this story. Justin Spears, who's really good at sort of touching that younger than millennial way of looking at things in you know, a top twelve list or a top fifteen list, things like that. He's he's working on

kind of really breaking down all the cities in different ways. And I think, I think from a coverage standpoint, it opens up a lot of fun. I think to what you guys were saying before I got on the air about travel, and think that's TV for to be seen and that's going to affect us too. I think, I know my issue with travel and not

travel is not so much our bety outlets there anymore. In person. I think that from a TV standpoint, what Fox and some of these areas have been able to do by having folks in studios and saving the dollars and things like that is not a problem, except that they're lying about it on the air. I don't think they're purposely lying, but they're they're making it look like with backdrops that they're in the booth looking down at the stadium, and

at some point, be honest. Everyone is going to figure it out in this era of social media, and so we have to follow the same path. If we don't send people the games, we have to be honest about where we're getting our information from and our reporters. If that ends up happening, I don't foresee that to the same degree. But if it's not, there are plenty of sports. We don't get to spend our reporters to everything at We have to come up with a way to be unique and offer them

something beyond the television broadcast, and that's that's a hard thing. But I don't see that as as a problem as much as just the challenge we have to work through. And I don't believe that for sends basketball, football, and even women's basketball in the city now, especially being in a conference that includes Baylor and enough competition in the Big twelve, and god forbid, they expand and add Yukon basketball like has been talked about a little bit and by

a little bit. You know, women's basketball would be huge. We talk about hands, it's coming up the sale. What if someday it's Yukon and Arizona going back and forth between stores and Tucson. I think those three sports we are going to travels is going to continue. It's not going to change, but it's going to be interesting. You know, we the three of us, talked about this yesterday. You know, the idea of the packwelve tournament being gone out of Black Vegas, at least in terms of Arigona's playing,

Kansas City is going to be the home. That's ku stopping ground. That's a big change for fan travel, media, travel, the teams, everything involved. So I think all of that is going to be really fascinating to watch how it plays out once so they's going. So I arrived here in eighty seven, it was an intern in at the daily start at eighty five. I want to throw a number out here. Maybe in in this toll time, six or seven sports editors have come through, Jay. I

think you provide six or seven a number of them. You're at at the doorstep of a new era with the Big twelve. Obviously changes new staffs and smaller staffs. How are you feeling about all this? You know, I wish we had a bigger staff. I think anyone would say that, just because it would be amazing to be able to staff everythingle event that is important and big in the city. But at the same time, I don't think

that there is a point in watching sports. You know, you guys said something interesting when I came on. He said that I'm you would assume I'm

a sports fan. I am a fan of sport. I struggle to be a sports fan because I have personal connections to a lot of things, but the concept of sport and what it is to society, and we only have to look back three years ago and sitting on our count is wondering what are we going to do with ourselves while we're all quarantining, sitting around waiting, trying to sneak into grocery stores at off hours so there's not a lot of people there. And as soon as Major League Baseball came back, the amount

of hours I spent watching Major League Baseball for the first time. I mean I always watched baseball, but not to that degree. It was important and it was vital to my own well being, and I think coming out of all of that into this. I take what Jed Fish said the heart to his players. He told us this on I believe it was last Friday.

He said, you know, I told my players that they are not just seeing a historical moment right now, but they're the group that went through how sports impact or pensive pandemic impacted sports, and I l and the changes to that. Then you throw this on top, It's pretty amazing how much massive change has happened in the shortener design. And for that, I'm excited and I feel very lucky to be one of the handful of people, not as many as fifteen twenty years ago, but the handful of people in this town

are going to be a part of it. So, you know, there's been a lot of talk, you know, not just you, but I think sports editors everywhere about how, you know, you cover stuff differently because as you said, you don't you know, you don't have the staff to go cover everything, so you try and find it interesting things to cover about a given you know sport or you know you know, uh players or whatever.

It's just different now. I mean, how important is you know, the record, you know, the box score to what you guys, do now or are you letting people get that from wherever they get it from and

you kind of get deeper and use your staff that way. I think that's a great question, and it depends on the sport and it depends on how our You know, people ain't talking about this because we should be able to just cover the most important things, but there has to be an understanding of what is more important than of one thing to another to the audience, and digital analytics really help with that for us to be able to be able to sit here and say that, look, the end result in terms of the

minutia of how a game ended. In Major League Baseball, when there's one hundred and sixty two games, isn't as important as the fact that di'mond backs to law sixth straight and are falling out. The Angels haven't won in the month of August's quite deciding to keep ocnning. So covering things that I'm talking on twothon level obviously, but covering things has to go deeper than the numbers

like that. You guys, I know, I believe are having Bruce Pass go on in the next hour, and I believe Bruce is going to get to talk about where he's heading tomorrow, and that's part of it. You know, we're investing financially and sending Bruce to the Middle East on this script

where the UF basketball team is going to Israel Nabudhabi. It's not just because Bruce gets the cool strip out of the deal, but it's because, you know, access has changed to players and being able to introduce athletes in situations and coaches who are accessible, like Tommy Lloyd, but in different ways,

in unique ways. I'm not we're going to send Bruce the whole season, don't get me wrong, but this is an important investment for us financially to pay for a plane ticket and hotels because what he can bring back to Tucson by being one of the only media outlets there. It's not the only one, it's so unique compared to being one of thirty they're in the teams.

So it's understanding the balance point of those two things and knowing when Tony Enup is worth it to bring an audience that cares so much about a topic, something different and unique and new compared to the same thing every day. We're still going to cover the team every day in the same way, but This is just one example where we are putting a premium on those unique moments and

elements to the sports. So here's here's the rub though, And I know that the UA doesn't dictate what you guys write or what can or can I write. They're kind of limiting what he can write in a weird way. Do you mean in what sense, like on a day to day basis covering

a team? Right? Yeah, no, And that's exactly why. Like, that's why in a case like this, going on this trip for eleven days and owning that coverage for our audience, meaning making sure that we're delivering that to an audience that wants something beyond conference realignment talking things is really important on a day to day basis. You're actually right, you guys are there

the same kind of storylines get shifted between the different outlets around town. How they write AM is different, and that's actually kind of fun from a sports media standpoint. But the audience has much less of a connection to the athletes than they did many years ago. I remember, and I might have shared this with you guys recently, but I remember when Ed granted there was the Sean Miller situation and book Richardson Saga and all of that going on at the

time. But I member when Justin Spears talks to DeAndre een in the locker room at the Packs Flow basketball tournament in Las Vegas for the first time anyone talks to DeAndre eighteen in like seven months, and he was a stand up comedian in that room, and yet no one knew it and no one got

that opportunity. So, you know, situations like this, the chance to send Bruce and have him get to potentially interact and we don't know how that's going to be on the trip, but he's going to work his magic and potentially interact with these young people in a way that we won't necessarily see during

the season. It's really important to a captive audience in Suson and so you're right, we constantly have to look at different ways to tell the stories of not just what's going on in the business side, but who these dung people are. You know, I don't love the term seing athletes, but they're students and their athletes and they're interesting and I think we have more wanting eyes and ears to that, but less opportunity to tell it. So the creativity

is huge to your point. Yeah, no, no, perfect stuff and very act you're Yeah, thanks Brett as usual, Thank good luck, than you have fun with the job. I laughed. Yeah, okay, cool, Yeah, Bruce's gonna come on the other side. Bruce is more to day. You know, he's more a matter of facts, you know, you know, and I you know, i'd be interesting to see what you

know. I mean, they clearly well you would think that if they're gonna invest this kind of money to go on a trip like this, they've kind of mapped out how they want to cover it, sure, what they want to do, what's gonna come back. They're gonna get clicks because people are gonna want to read about it because nobody else is going to cover that. Right, But you know they're not being followed by the athletic right, you may get scores of games which you're not going to get, you know.

And we'll talk to him, because Tommy has been very adamant, if that's right word to him saying this is you're not gonna be able to have access like you think you're gonna have access to uh, but you're gonna have access. Yeah, you know, he's only gonna have more access than you're sure, sure, so let's the money worth the trip? Probably? Yeah, but dot dot dot we'll see. Okay, let's take a break, all right, take some calls. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you

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Atlantic Coast Conference sound? Yeah, it's just strange. It's just strange. Honestly, it's just strange. During the break, I was reading in a pad forty column on on Sports Illustrated and just like it just everything's just been thrown into the wind. You know, well, being regional, uh you know, you know, the whole the whole footprint thing, your tradition, rivalries, Uh, you know, the academics, it's just all out the window. Now it's just like who can get us the most money? All

right, let's take this call. Ah, you're on there and I on the ball. Yeah, how are you guys doing? I had a idea for Bruce on his big strip. It seems like part with part of the reason why they don't want a lot of reporting for d Force security. Yes, that's definitely the case. I wondered. Could could he do a blog or a journal that could be published after he got back. I'm sure he can. They're not gonna limit him totally. They're not gonna say and you

can't do this. But but security is one of the reasons why he's gonna do his job. There's no question about it. It's just gonna be limited. Yeah, there's gonna be some questions as to how much he can say on a given day. Yeah, Like, but for us sports fans, it would be interesting to read even after the fact. Oh yeah, of course, of course. I think. Well, if you stay tuned for Yeah, we're gonna have Bruce in about a half hour and he'll explain more.

We just throwing it out there, and thanks again for all your your coverage during all the chaos last week. What do you make of it? What do you make of it? What do you make of it? Well, you know, I think it's inevitable, and you know, you gotta trust Robbins and hekey and you know, the one thing I wondered is you have a wanted to go with or without AFU and UH and Utah. Well, what would have happened if they've holed Big ten and when all the corner

schools go head us add at a discount? I guess I'm not sure understand your questions to say that again, So Washington and Oregon went to the Big pen at a discount? Well, I was. I was a firm believer in what uh doctor Robbins was saying, is we want to go, whether ASU wants to go or not, whether your pa wants to go or not. And when we all bundled, my only concern was maybe, uh,

they wouldn't give us full value. No, I think I think all along Arizona going to the Big twelve was always going to be at full value. But Robbins had said a number of times they could go without a SU although they didn't really want to. And then well that was that was fine with me, as long as we could always have the Territorial Cup at the beginning of the year. And Uh, it would have increased the rivalry. Did

your name again? I know you call every now and again. I'm John, So John, you sound like one of us, an older guy. I'm sorry if I'm wrong with that. But would you would you be okay to do the streaming stuff? Are you good at that? Well, I'm seventy four and I do stream, but uh, but it's difficult, you know what I mean. I've tried different streaming services and I've had troubles. And my son who helps me is in Phoenix, so I don't always have

a young person to help me do it. And uh, I really understand the whole linear thing beyond the streaming, that for the exposures for the athletes and the conference and the brand and the benefit for the new time zones, and uh, you know, I think it's going to be interesting. But to answer your question, I do know how to stream, and I don't have I don't have table interesting all right, I'm hanging on me. I'm hanging on I might have to borrow your son from a moment or two.

Yeah, but I mean it's your business, so you guys got to have of it all. And I certainly understand the bouncing back and forth from linear to yeah, in linear as opposed to streaming. And I probably would have bought Apple. I never Yeah, I didn't have direct TV. Yeah yeah, okay, well I did have. I did have streaming problems with the back twelve. Yeah, okay, John, thank you very much, appreciate the call. I think he's typical of you know, yeah, we're gonna

stream at some point because we have to. And I streamed some, but I still my basis is around cave. So so in listening to some of the other presidents and talking, I'm sure you listened to some of the others and they were talking about it was kind of like, uh, scientific stuff. They were talking about stuff they didn't understand right, kind of like me. But they were saying and yesterday or two days ago, when doctor Robbins was talking about the stats, how they'd have them kind of come up and

they'd have highlights and things like that. That sounds real cool. Events it's gonna be George Jetson the type of stuff. No, it is, and that that's where we're here to. I mean, we're we're at to a point where and part of this is being accelerated by the whole gambling aspect of this. You know, there's gonna be like, like I just saw that somebody's putting is gonna be going excuse me, pretty soon or maybe already is where you can bet on every golf shot in the tournament to what to what

to do whatever. You can say, this guy's gonna hit it on the green or he's gonna miss the green, or you know, like there's a golf shot coming up, and if you're quicken up, you can put a bet down. Well, don't they do that in football? He did in Vegas whether they can run her pass or yeah, yeah, there's something. There's something that going on and in different leagues are looking at doing stuff like that where you can bet not just on a game, you can bet on

a play and those kinds of things. And that's the kind of stuff where you know, we're you know, again, the technology has to be that you know, if you're watching it live. Let's say you're sitting in the stadium and you're seeing a play as it happens, that if somebody's in their living room, they got to be seeing it at the exact same time. You know, if you ever saw the staying right, you ever see the sting that they were what they called pass posting, and that's how they set

up there, the scam that they that they had. But you know, I mean, you know, I just today I'll tell you. So I had I had Dan Patrick on my on Peacock on my TV streaming, and and then I was in another room and so I had it on on my phone and I'm listening to it off of the iHeart app. And they were not simultaneous, they were not the same. One was ahead of the other. Why are you doing this? You're gonna you're the guy who studies too much and forgets everything. No, I was just listening to the show.

But he left right. No, they were the same show. So they do that at home. And I was listening to you she's listening to what they were talking about, and I was. I had to leave the room for work on TV, so I wanted to keep hearing it. And it was it wasn't that happens to be in my living room, in my bedroom where it's not. They're not. I don't know what it is, but it's not. Like I was watching the Dodging game, right, I had

the Dodge Game and so I had it on my computer screen. But then I had the game cast on my phone because and I was getting the play on game cast before I was seeing it. Oh yeah, because someone takes me. Hey, the Orioles won or lost, and I'm thinking it's not over. You know it's over. Or if you ever tried to listen, you don't do this, and I do this. You know, I put I take headphones to you a football game, right and Brian Jefferies is just

a scoche behind the play. Okay, you don't just look. And that's if you're listening to it directly on the radio. You know, I take a little radio things I hooked to my belt. If you put him on the app, you're sometimes you're seconds delayed, crazy, Okay, okay, And that's where we're headed, Steve, I mean we're headed, no question. And then and the technology is just gonna get better better. You know, my brother talks about he did not go to the Arizona Ble this year

for the first time. I'm not even sure why, but he didn't go. So he watched the Barstool Sports. Yeah. Yeah, there were problems with the with the buffery and that's the number one reason. That's the number one thing. And some people talked about who was it, uh that would direct TV. There's some real worries about that because the direct if he's gonna be on YouTube TV, YouTube TV did a game of some sort, and they were having trouble, uh, you know, staying up with it.

You're watching direct TV. You want to see you know, you don't get it. Of course, of course it's like phones were back in the day. You just had to kind of catch up. Can you hear me? Can you hear me now? Blah blah blah. So it is what it is. I mean, I think that Brett explained that very well. Where in the early stagees had backpacked when taking the taking the streaming thing, there would have been hiccups, hiccup hiccups. Eventually got it worked out. Years

later it was oh, what a great deal we came across. I mean, I remember when we went from uh from dial up you know, internet to sure you know, sure, sure you yeah, Well come on, just in our business alone, we had we had the bubbles, right, I had to. I worked with the bubble. We worked to TRSA, the RSA, the radio show which were now you just think, how how

did we do that? We had four lines of texts to be able to see it right right and then and then they moved on to the kind of computers and now now we have what we have, well, we have what we have yeah, no, those and that was just within the last twenty

five years, thirty years. Yeah, you know, because in yeah, eighty eight, eighty seven eight, we were carrying the bubbles and then the TSA and then couplers and the couple I remember a card that I told the Arizona NLV game nineteen eighty six, eighty seventeen, so it was eighty six, and they had one of those bubbles for people don't know what the bubbles it was. It was kind of a big box with a teeny little computer screen and a keyboard and you could trans at your story, but you had

to hook it up to an actual phone. So I had to take the headset of a phone and stick it on the thing, and the UNLV I had to lift up my my thing, go to a pay phone in the media room and plug it in and then make the call on the pay phone and plug it and hold it. Because they didn't have phone lines in the media did any disconnect or whatever when the line was it would right if you got a glitch or something like that. No phones in the media room.

Wow at UNLV in that day time, in that day, so how often did you have to do that? Like every every game, every game, every game in every time you follow the story, right, wow, yeah, when you were working from home or something, Yeah, yeah, you had that thing. It was about ten pounds or whatever it was. It was a little box. Yeah. And then don't forget about the photographers. They had their little litmus. They had their I don't even want the thing

that spuned. It was it was a fact. It was. It was a yeah, you put you put the photo, the color photo on this roller and it would spin like a fax machine and transmit the yeah, the color. The suitcase too, they had to do. Yeah, yeah, we stay you know when we traveled, it was with the photographer of myself and then he'd be up doing that stuff and I'd be upwriding on those things. Right, Okay, man, the good old days. Say so, I mean it sounds like carving, you know, break you know in a

stone or something too. When I was you had to dictate if you didn't have one of those yeah oh yeah, oh yeah yeah. The r s as were like one thousand dollars. Yeah, google it. It's it's funny. Just the twenty are were calling us the bubble bubble Google. You'll see, like really they worked with this. And it's funny because you talked about the typewriter. Yeah, that kind of there was a typewriter this and then uh yeah he just like carried all that around. Oh yeah yeah, yeah

yeah. I got my terror Stated run over by a car once and it kept working. It fell off. I had on the trunk of my car and I took off. It fell off the back. Somebody ran it overyos for the little keys to pop off, and yeah that kind of stuff. Yeah, okay, all right, man, dumb memory lane. All right, let's let's take our break top of the arm. Jason'll be back breaking news and uh we'll get after it, so we'll be right back