This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jaken Zalis on Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services Ensure your most Prized Possessions. Katie z R Two Sad and I Heeart Radio Station. Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jacome's loss here. It's Tuesday afternoon, the start of the week. Man, I don't know if I want to be here start of the week. I don't. It doesn't it already long? I feel like Thursday.
I know, That's how I feel. I toe long day. I've had two days in a row. I've had to get up at five thirty in the morning because your other thing one to go. You had to get up for the guy get you know, five thirty in the morning. It's not easy. No, I did that. I did that Saturday. I tell you I wouldn't golfee Saturday. I cursed when I got up. I wish I had not agreed to this, that I got there to the event I got Saturday. I'm thinking, why do I like you get to my
friend? Who am by the mean? I shouldn't be here, I should still be asleep. Yeah. I enjoyed the day, but after not playing for three years, it was like, what the hell am I doing here? Because if you would have seen my shots, you would have said the same thing, what do you do? And wasted my time chasing snakes exactly? Now? You know, well I got I started doing that. You know. I was a paper boy for the morning paper back in the day. Yeah, man, I had to be I had to be at at
the place where I was delivering papers. I had to be there at five o'clock in the morning. I did that for like almost two years because that my parents had to be delivered by six and would take me an hour to roll them too. Yeah, to roll them and deliver them. I delivered an apartment complex, two buildings, an apartment complex, but it was a lot and uh those was the dead time man getting up at quarter to five.
Those near my house. I'd get up at quarter to five. I hated the days that I did papers when it was still dark when I got up to this day, I hate getting up when it's still dark shop. Did you I think that's the easiest part this, in my opinion, Did you have to collect to Yes, so that would be my tough part, and that was not easy. You want to pay, yeah, well not only that they don't. You had some people, because you're supposed to collect by the month, right, you pay at the beginning of the month.
Some people said, I'm not going to pay till the end of the month when I've already gotten my newspapers. There were other people would say, and we're talking, oh, we're talking five dollars a month, right, And there there were some people would say, I want to pay by the week, and so I'd have to go once a week to collect the quarterbuck in a quarter. You know, I don't even know how they do it anymore
because you only see cars filling. They don't do it very many. Yeah, but I'll tell you what though, I will say that that was something that at a very young age, I learned a lot about responsibility and having to show up every day, having to show up on Christmas Day, having to show up on Thanksgiving Day, having to show up if the weather was
awful. You know, no matter what um it was, you know, it was hard and what the two summers I did it though, my golf game got really good because of what I would do is I deliver papers and then my dad, who would leave for work at six thirty in the morning, would give me and my friends a ride down to Randolph and would play golf all day in the summer to Okay, So but anyways, I don't
even know how we got to that morning. Um yeah, so if I you know, I hate it and I've got I've got one more because I've got one more on Friday, because my wife has to go on a business trip to uh to Switzerland. I took to the airport. We gotta leave at five thirty in the morning. She really tooks like three out of five days she goes a lot to the road on to Switzerland. That's her company's headquarters. So that's why she goes. Chucks. Sorry, sorry to hear
that. I've got a good at Switzerland whole. Hey, that means there's a pot roast coming up next week sometimes, Yeah, probably another golf roast at my house. Maybe a big giant tea bone. Uh you know, stuff that my wife did not that fondo. So yeah, m hmm, Okay, A lot of things going on. I think I can't tell you. The NBA playoffs obviously, kind of interest with Chris, and you're talking about the playoffs tonight. You you and you and he were just you know,
going It was funny watching you guys talk. You know, Chris, he kept asking your opinion. You kept giving it to him, and then he'd ask it again. Right, I said enough, already enough, called him a name, and that was funny. I was going to kick out of that, out of so I asked me, if we're gonna listen to me, I'm you know, I'm watching the playoffs. I'm paying attention to the playofford. I'm not betting on the playoffs. Smart, smart, Yeah, you know, I'm having fun watching golf. Put a little bit of
money on golf. I missed out, like, you know, just a five dollars bed. I had Patrick Cantley, who finished a stroke up from miss from making the playoff between a Speed and Man fitz Patrick, so would have had a chance at that. But you know, just a little something to do with my whistle and you know, keep me interested. Yeah, okay, So so in about ten and fifteen minutes, we're gonna have the George Modus again, one of our favorite guests. People love hearing him because
he's the card Guy, one of our great sponsors. Guy and Chris made a transaction with him. I think we talked about it, you know, two thousand dollars cards. We'll see how that went. And then he has a show this weekend that's kind of high. I'm gonna be part of the show. I'm gonna have someone to do my books. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's one of the reasons why we're having him on. See what's going on in the town. And then in the second a half,
we're gonna talk about Sons. Yeah, Phoenix Suns. We're gonna have Jody Ailer from Fox Sports nine ten in Phoenix, sort of a sister state, or we're a sister stationed in them because they're the big boys. But Jody's got a morning show up in Phoenix. We always go to Jody for knowledge
on all things Phoenix, the Sons, the Cardinals. That you can start the other draft coming up with the Cardinals, and there's just a lot of speculations to what they're gonna do. So I think the Cardinals will be another another thing to talk about with Jody, and then we'll, uh, you know, we'll just get into all of that, but uh, you know, the Sons are you know, they're they're already you know, they've already lost some home court advantage to the Clippers. Um, you know, this
is an important game. They can't they can't lose two at home, right, It's it's unbelievably important. Yeah. You remember the time when Um west Fall was the coach and this is we're not gonna lose, guarantee. They were one seats the name, I'm not guaranteed. They went to oh and then they swept the Rustle. I remember that because I remember watching his you know, just the highlights of his press conference saying, you know, what are you gonna do? Since we're gonna go win game three, right,
and then we're gonna win game court and then we're gonna wine. We're not gonna lose the exactly what they did. But this is a seven game set. But you know, home court advantage is really important, and the Suns have got to get their stuff together and they you know, they just let Russell Wilson, Russell Wiston, Russell, Um Um Westbrook, you know, just beat up on them. And you can't do that. Can't that guy can't be the guy that beats you? No, right, No, and
you had a horrible game. Still they still won. Clippers are are halfway decent. I'm not sure how good they are. They're playing without Paul to Paul Georgie, Yeah, but uh, Kawhi Leonard. It came alive in that game, and a lot of discussion about if Kawhi Leonard keeps being Kawhi Leonard plays the entire series the Sun, he's gonna be trouble for the Sun. And no one's talked about him for a while, right to Kawi Leonard this morning. So he's been so injured, hardly injured and kind of mercurical.
It just kind of hard to talk to and all that stuff. But someone today, uh jj Reddick, who was on Stephen A. Smith, and he talked about how he plays. He plays They said he pays a lot like Jordan when he's really on and in terms of how he moves, just kind of fluid, calculating and stuff and and and Stephen A. Smith agreed. I'm thinking I have to look at it again. I can't really, but he hasn't played like that forever, so it's hard to see it
happen. Well, it's hard to know what you're gonna get from him, right because right again, because as we said, he's he's never around. Well, this is the guy that they had hoped to get when they got him originally, and then obviously to have Paul there now Westbrook and a couple of others that they're gonna be good if they'll play together. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what Phoenix does. I think I think the Phoenix has to rebound for this one. They have to. They have to. I
mean they can't. Yeah, I mean, they absolutely one percent have to. The question is you know, can something like that cause like an immediate funk? Right? You know, can you all of a sudden you lose a game like that? Now you're questioning yourself, you start doing some stuff. Is it an immediate funk? And can you now can you fix that? Uh? In a in a very short period of time? And I don't know. I don't know, can you? So I don't. I'm
trying. I'm trying to look up how many games he played this Kawhi Leonard played this year. I'm making it easy to find that anywhere on any of the stat any of the stat things are I'm finding. But you know, again, the knock on him is he doesn't play a lot. He's not around much. And uh and you know, if you're I mean, you can be great. But if you're not playing, what the hell's the use? Right M look at you. I like that. I'm making you into
a philosopher. You said a lot of like Rivero, we just got sad. They can be very sad. It could be. I understand, Vera. Don't bring me down like that. I understand river I can understand what you're telling you. I feel good about myself. You don't bring me down like oh well you said like Professor Goozales, I can figure things out one in a while, but I can remember what I'm trying to figure out, and I'm talking out what. Okay, So we're gonna hope to get some
calls. You have to. We have to, you know, Gabe, call us Nico and some other suit. You can't give us a call. Uh well, if you want to call us after or maybe even now to you have a card that you're interested in, what it's worth it you have like five minutes, just give us a quick George is on right. So and now if you have your curious curiosities about your card, let us knows what it is. We'll tell George and you can go over the weekend to
his big show. He's a big card show. I guess a lot of people have good cards are gonna show him and display him and sell them at this It's a geek fest, That's what it is. That's that's exactly what it is. He has those things. I tease them about it because now I'm involved because about my book. I'm gonna be among the geeks. I'm gonna wear my thick glasses, little paper. But that's what it is. Hey, what's surprised on this car? Yeah? You get funny, funny,
you know what you know. I'm fascinated by that. And for a period of time towards the end of when I was working at the Star, there was a uh, one of our artists, you know, uh, guy named Pete Spino who I'm going on whatever happened, But he was big into the card collecting back then. And I actually it's funny because I went out and bought a bunch of baseball cards and I kept them and I still
have them. Yeah, probably stacked maybe about a three in stack of baseball cards and I still have that I bought at that time and then put him in a box and I still have That's where everybody has them. And that's why they don't They either they hold the well or they don't hold well, you know. And I went to look at you the first time we had George, and I went and looked at you know, just looked at him, looked at a few of them up on the up on the internet,
and someone worth five bucks, worth ten bucks. You know. There wasn't anything, you know, really fancy, but sure, you know, just it was fun. It was fun to go through that to my stack of cards and cards. Did you see I saw they celebrated him recently. They put him to return his number something. I saw that a couple of days. Yeah, something with the Dodgers, and I think they retired his number.
I didn't know his complete story. I know he's a great story, but I didn't realize he kind of while he pipped the guy he replaced one of his his first start. Did they said it was the anniversary of the opening day or kind of like the first pitch or whatever. He came in
because somebody was hurt one of the things about that. So he came in and then he yeah, he great on opening day, first game, full game, full game, back in the day of the year, and the dude to us, you know, Rawlston or one of the brothers, one of the brothers, Nicro, but one of those guys. And I'm thinking, that's how you got a starting kids like Mark the Bird. I don't remember that. I remember him starting because I remember i'd seen him in spring
training that year and nondescript. Yes, another dude, I mean, you know from Mexico. He looked like me. I didn't want to say that I got. I got actually mistaken for him one time. It's a funny story, you Francisco Romero, And yeah, I actually had. I was at an Arizona baseball game and I had one of those Dodgers sat in jackets on three little kids that thought I was him. You got a little pooch. Yeah, we had the same hair, Fernando. Yeah, we had
the same hair. We had the same skin color, yeah, kind of the same and the same body. Yeah. You know, three little kids we're kind of behind, walking behind me, and they thought I was Fernando lenzu Uh. Three people were walked into a bar. Fernando, George Lopez and Jakenzos walked in the what or some tequila, exactly. It's kind of fun. I wanted to have some fun with him. But then either one
of them came up to me, I'd already made up my mind. If someone came up one of them came up to me and asked me if I was say him. I was going to say that I was, at least for a little bit and then and then, you know, then let him know that they none of them did could send his big ball. It's him. It's him. I know it's him. It's him. You're probably he's probably about how tall was he he? I think he was like six foot six four. Looked at that spring training game. I got a baseball and
I got his autograph, so I so you would. Yeah, yeah, I stood with him. He wasn't a lot bigger than me. I'm not five nine, yeah, so five nine. He was maybe five eleven five, you know, six foot maybe, But you know, we had a
lot of the same thing. Pretty funny, But you probably looked more like him now because he slimmed down a little and he's kind of no now I look like old Fernando, and he's allow, and he dresses a whole lot better than I. Do you know, but he doesn't even were one of my all time favorites, man, just one of my always he will took it, took it by storm, took it my storm. Okay, oh yeah, we'll look. Well, you can find out that story. I
just found it kind of strange. I didn't really realize that he kind of stepped in and became this guy. Yeah, I'll have to look that up because I don't I remember him starting open day. I just don't remember the circumstances. Some guy got hurt or sick or something. Yeah, all right, okay, cool, So we're gonna George hearing about four minutes, three minutes, yep, and let's go. Okay, well, let's go and
take our break. We'll come back. We'll get we'll get George Midas on and we'll talk some some collectibles and and just listen up and then uh, you know, we'll uh we'll just hear where he's got to say. But all kinds of stuff going on with the show this weekend. So stick around,
see you good love it man. For more than twenty years, the Window Depot has provided the best price and the biggest inventory on in stock vital windows, and now the Window Depot is more than a window store, offering homeowners and contractors all one stop warehouse offering interior and exterior doors, granted in courts, countertop in stock, cabintry, and skylights to finish your project. Their team of professionals will help with everything from free kitchen design to custom orders
from leading manufacturers like mill Guard and Geldwyn. Order online or find a location near you as a window Deepot dot com. Where do you buy exercise equipment? Arizona Health Arizona Health Arizona Health. Of course, to feel better and look better, it makes sense to buy your fitness equipment from the people who know it better than anyone else. At Arizona Health, our goal is to help you choose the equipment you need to reach your goals. Your health and
fitness deserve the best you deserve. Arizona Health the leading niche and exercise equipment on twenty second just west of willnot. If you think now is not a good time to buy a refinance at home, think again. Interest rates are at all time loans on most loan programs, and Paul Volpi of Nova Home Loans is ready to help you find the option that best fits your needs. If you're looking for your dream home or want to get shout to refinance on
a current home, visit Voltbyteam dot com. That's Volpe Team dot com. I'll call five six, two six today. It's a new year and time to give a creative award to your student athletes winter and spring awards seasons, as well as for grade school, middle school and high school athletes. Scholastic awards for those academic students just in time to recognize all their achievements. Visit Creative Awards online at Creative Awards AZ dot com or visit their Idea studio at
two twenty eight West Drachman Street in Tucson. It's also time to get your creative promotional products for the upcoming conventions, giveaways to promote your company and get your employee's new apparel to look sharp representing you and your company. Come see Creative Awards to twenty eight West Drachman Street or online at Creative Awards AZ dot com. Neck pain, back pain, car accidents, headaches, sports injury.
Burnella's Chiropractic's goal is to help our patients achieve a healthy life style, combining chiropractic care with physical medicine. Menaladis therapeutic procedures and massage therapy not only reduced pain, but helps the body heal itself as well as provide other health benefits. Or Nellis Chiropractic. We use a natural approach to improve an individual's health and wellbeing. Don't suffer any longer. Called or Nellis Chiropractic. Today,
the holidays are fast approaching after a difficult year. We're sure everyone could use a little financial help. Pyramid Federal Credit Union is bringing back to Holiday Helper Loan, a low interest, short term loan that can help get you through the holidays. In support of our community, Pyramid is making our donation to the Community Brood Bank of Southern Arizona from each a loan. For more information or apply online, visit pyramid su dot com slash Holiday Helper. All
those are on approved credit. Other restrictions may apply. Pyramid Federal Credit Union Insured NCUA. Did you know sports cards that memorabilia are setting record sales last month of nineteen fifty two, Tops Mickey Mantle sold for twelve point six million, Lebron James Rookie sold for five point six Also, collecting cards is a family fun hobby that can be very profitable. If you want to start a
collection or expand your collection, check out Showtime Cards. They are one of the leading card shops in the country and have served our local community for twenty five years. They are located on EA Speedway. That's Showtime Cards mining so important. It's the foundation of everything, that defines a society. Everything you've seen is a product of mine. Don't matter when, don't matter, how, don't matter why. Every society on this planet has developed, rome and
modidized based solely on the minerals it could process. That's, my friend, is why mine is so important. Brought to you by the Southern Arizona Business Coalition. Basketball fans meet Arizona women's basketball player of Maya Naji at the Cricket Store on West Saint Mary's Road Saturday, Evil twenty second from noon to two. Test your hoop shooting skills and challenge Maya to a friendly game, plus free food for the first fifty customers, jumping castles, entertainment giveaways, and
more. That's Maya Nagi next Saturday at Cricket Wireless fourteen seventy five West Saint Mary's Road. The meeting great event with Maya Nagi. Is open to the public and free of charge. Bands are encouraged to arrive early. A space is limited and available on a first come, first served basis. Streaming live on the I Heart Radio WAP. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. We welcome back to our
on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jaken Zass. Now on the phone. We have George Modas from Showtime Cards. George, how are you. I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on guys. Yeah, well, you're one of the favorite guests because everyone
has questions about cards and how much they're worth. You know. It's funny, Jet I have a car that you know, when you buy your car and people talk, well you'll get it good when when you resell it, I'm I'm gonna sell this carment a driving But cards they buy him for the purpose of reselling, and I guess my boy here Chris Chris Gordman sold sold his beloved card to George A good one too. Yeah. I had a
great Hey, George, what's going on in much great? My experience was great there, so just to bullet point it so it'll take too long on it. George set the card off to get grated. So George was great, My experience is great. Let me go behind the desk here showing me all the eBay quotes, the prices, telling me the car. He was showing me like, he's not selling me a bag of goods unless he's rigged eBay. You never know, you never know. He could have an eBay
template. Yeah, he could be like, hey, Chris, look for this. This is what this card's going. But here's the thing. So George set it off. We have a bat and we're gonna do a review at some point, right George, when the card comes back, Absolutely, when he comes back, we could go on the air and do a live or be all. That'll be cool because that's one of the things which collectibles
is just like a coin or fine art or anything. Condition it's based on conditioned, So you have to send it off, get it professionally graded and then you could see the real value. Right, do we discuss the price on the air now or do we wait till we do the revealed so he can discuss what the card's worth and what he sold it for me to me, let's wait, because I feel like I do. And that's the roll. Well, that's the dice I rolled, because he said it's either a
PSA one PSA two. He gave me somewhere in between, because if it comes back great At PSA one, no, I won probably one, he gave me. I'm not gonna tell the price yet, but because back at PSA two, oh, I sold him at a decent price. But he made a good chunk of change on it. And that's that's the dice I rolled. I sold it to him thinking it's going to be a PSA one. We don't know yet. It's gonna come back and get graded. So if it's a PSA two, He's taking me to Texas Roadhouse because I've never
been. So he's gonna take men. Say, good deal, and I may have to take him if it's a PSA one, so wait, wait, so either way we're having steak. Is PSA one the worst work. So this card had one levels, another two, one, one to ten. So this card and George explained it. He took me the back this card he got the It had a major seal in the middle, a major crease, excuse me, it was it was which the card was crisp, though I think George right. It wasn't wilted either. It was a strong
card, but it was wall centered, nice corners. It just had several creases. Other than that, it's a great card, but it's also forty eight sixty. It's a seventy year old card. Almo, So I, well, we'll see if it comes back at PSA two it could be somewhere to thought. Well, we're gonna find out when we'll reveal. I feel like I got a decent price. Um, either way, one of us is getting staked. That was your color, with your probably with your prices.
Now you're hoping the Warriors making a better price. Absolutely, That's another thing with cards. It's also based on you know, player performance or which teams are doing well. So if um, if the Kings do well, they upset the Warriors and some of the players you know Dear and Fox as well, his prices go up immediately. Well then he's soaring. He's soaring right now. And I will tell your listeners here eye of the ball. When you go to showtime sports, if you've got a good card, A
guy walked in, I walked in. The guy had it was the fifty five Jackie Robinson. It was George is very fair with I don't know whatever happened with that guy. We made the deal. I bought the card. I send him off with that card. So when we do the reveal, well reveal, I want to know that card. So this guy walked in. This card was Christine like it made my William Mays looked like it was out of it a coffee, right, But it wasn't a rookie William Mays.
But it was a fifty five Jackie Robinson. Wow, won the world Yeah, this was centered glossy. It was you know the last time the Dodgers won the World Series. You're kidding, I'm turning off your microphone your time here is something kee off your Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, but no, but that card was great and George took the time and showed him the problem. Like I felt like I got a good experience out of it. He wasn't selling me a bag of goods. He did always preface,
but going you can sell this on your own. You can do it. You can go to eBay, you can take out the advertisement, pay the taxes to eBay. All right, or he'll do it and you know it's you make more when you sell it on eBay. Right, Well, you know, George is like circle, Okay, you walk in there, it's convenient and you're paying for that, or you're qut. You're qut. You're not qut here though, can bab the experience? You know? One guys,
there's another option, a way to sell cards. This weekend we're having a big card show at the shop Sunday, So that's the thing, Like you could buy sell trade cards or just come check it out and see what does card community is about. You know, my fiance now it's she's like I had no idea this world existed and how how it goes down, and now she loves it. I was gonna say, she's still with you, finding she's still your feeling that I didn't realize you were that much of a
George. Well, he's got these great Marvel comics and pokemonmon Besides sport, you've got sports cards. But what you know, besides sports stuff, what other stuff do you have store? George? Well, Pokemon is a beast right now. Pokemon it's been We've been selling for twenty three years and I kept thinking, you know it's gonna die off. We gotta saw our inventory and it just keeps going and going, and you set comes out, we sell out of it, and that's a beast, you know a lot of
Let me ask you question, does Wall too? Let me ask you a question on the pokemon because I just read Blake Martinez, the linebacker from CDO played with the James Packers. He's now he signed a big contract years ago. I think he got like, you know whatever, forty million guaranteed at the time. Big contract. He's now out of football. He's in the pokemon business apparently. Have you big breakers online? Yeah? Have you dealt with him at all? Or no? No, No, not really,
But I see him online all the time and I'm chatted with him. We try to get him in here and do a store signing, but his agent was a little higher than we wanted to pay, so it still didn't work out. But that's okay. And he says he's making a couple million dollars a year moving these cards. Really yeah, really, well, he's got a lot of money to buy the obscure cards too, right, George, And then turn it around, I mean he's got a lot of money in
the bank exactly. Yep. Well, anyway, my experience is great. Oh, thank you, George. I had a great time. I can't wait for the reveal with you guys. Let you know the price. I appreciate it, and I hope it comes back at two and I'm willing to take it a steak dinner if it does. And if it doesn't, we're going to Flemings. On your pockets one. I'm taking to Flemings PSA two. I'll take the Texas roadhouse I've never had and I'll go bone and reb
yep. Okay, thank you, Chris, thank you, George. So so tell us more about your show on Sunday, George, What's what's gonna be going there? So the show is people. We actually sell table to the public. So a lot of people have these collections or and you know, sometimes they do want to sell. You know, sometimes you have your own personal collections. But a lot of times do you buy cards to invest in cards, And there's for many reasons, you know, nostalgia and you
know whatever. People like to put sets together, organizing them things. But at these shows you can actually sell your own cards. So we have tables set up and the you you know, set up your tables, you sell, and people come in and buy cards. They sell to dealers or sell to us and trade cards and it's just a big card community. It's open to everyone, free admission and just like if they're interested in like sports or even sports cards, just come out and look. I mean there'll be a
lot of people. There'll be three or four hundred people and come through those doors. So it's just it's a neat way. These these shows only happen twice a year. This is our biggest one this Sunday, very cool, and it's pretty much eleven to two. What time is it two eleven to five pm. I'll be there from one to two with my book. So anybody getting some inquiries, I'm not okay, cool, let's get here. So I say, okay, I'm a little more education here for me.
George, you talk about you talk about a set, and I guess this Willie May's card is you've you've told Chris as part of a set that you have what's the set? So a set they have these card sets, so that's that's the nineteen fifty two bowmen set baseball card set. And each card has a number associated with it on the back of the set. So the Willie Mays you have a Mickey Mantle and so forth. You even have Sammy Stars, common players, and some people, like the old traditionalists, like
to put the entire set together. I'm actually building that set. That's one of the key cards. I'm missing three cards. That was one of the key cards I was missing. So my set. So when you say a set, it's like, you know, like, my son's got a I think he's got the two boxes of I want to say a nineteen nineteen ninety something, uh two okay, unopened boxes. That's the set, right,
So you're trying to get every card in that set. How many year in a set like two hundred, three hundred, Well, the one year your son has is I think seven hundred and fifty six cards. Those are complete factory sets back in those days been in make factory sets. You actually have to hand coal late them together. So that's that's the Set's that's a set. Cowmen, you're in that fifty two set that you have that you got that you wanted. This Wily May's card for it's under two hundred. I'm
not sure the exact number. I've been working on this set for a decade. Okay, so and it's just that's crazy. It stumbled apart, you know. I guess hosted with Steve and Chris came in. He goes, hey, guess what I have this card? I was like, whoa, I'm looking for that card. Yeah. So how much is that set worth? Now? Is it? Um? It depends on the condition. Um My my mannals a PFA seven. So it just tond of depends on the condition. But overall the second be five to twenty thousand dollars. Wow,
this is your bitcoin? Yes, yes, similar, but this is actually a tangible product, right, you know you're right. No, And the NFT's member, they still confuse me. But I mean I understand it, and I get it, and I think eventually it's like it's going to move to a lot of digital stuff, but I'm not ready for it, but eventually it will. No, but you're right. You have these in your hand, you see them, you know what they are, you know what
they're worth compared to all the bitcoin and the NFTs blah blah blah. This is the good old this is us. Well, let me ask you that exactly. That's a big part of collecting to the nostalgia, Like, hey, I remember buying a packet looking at these cards of these players, or I was at the ballpark and I bought the team set and I see these players that it kind of gives you that nostalgia happy feeling when you're a kid.
Well, let me ask you, because I don't know if we've asked you this and other times that you've been on but you fell in love with this at some point. How did that happen? I mean what, because you know Steve collected cards. I collected cards, but I didn't make a living out of it. I mean, how did this happen that you fell in love with this and then made a living out of this? So I don't know if I told this story before, but we had I grew up
in LA and we had season ticket tho little Odgers. I used to keep score for my dad on the way out. If I did a good job, he would buy me something at the souvenir stand. Sometimes of mindy helmet a little baseball. One time I'd seen a team set and I was like, hey, Pops, can I get one of those? And He's like, all right, it's too much, And I grabbed it and I clipped it over on the back. They actually had stats on the cards, and I know, keeping score of every game. I just I was a statistic
fanatic and I just fell in love. And from there I just never stopped it. And you just always collected. And then but at some point you said I'm gonna make a business out and he was young. How did that happen? Yes, you know, I started doing card shows in California, and I was I was going to school and I was waiting or busting tables
out chet at the time. I was in high school. But then I would do these shows on the weekends a Saturday, and I was like, wow, I'm making It's much money, you know, these eight hours at the show, that all week at the restaurant. I was like, there could be some money into this. And then when I was down here, I thought I was going to open a shop and do it for three years and then grow up and get a real job. I was twenty five at the time. Here we are twenty five years later, and the business is
growing and we're sometimes breaking records. Wow, that's that's fascinating to me, because, like you know, we all had boxes of these cards, like, I know you hear that story all the time. And who knows, right right, who knows where my cards ended up? I don't know. My mom hated him, but that she was like, oh, you know, like I don't under see you worked so hard mowing lawns and stuff,
and you're spending all his money on the stupid cardboard. But I was just nuns and how she's like he shakes her head, She's like, unbelievable. Now, my mom's thing was pick these damn things up off the floor and get him the hell out of here. You're saying, both sobs were like that, and the generation is get those darned legos off the floor because they hurt that my step on the lego man, right right. That's that's fascinating
to me because it, I mean, it is quite an industry. Oh huge, huge, what's the biggest card or the best card you've received while in Tucson? Like like you said, Wow, the holy Grail that you've received and I've gone through. I mean there's all sorts of things you know, we sold. I think I talked about like we sold that Emmy trophy that a guy that shot like the nineteen eighty six World Series and his son actually had the Emmy Award and he brought it. Hearing he had a box
of memory billion. I was like, hey, what's that I ended up buying and now it turned out to be like the twelve thousand dollars I mean award, but it's probably worth one hundred k. Now, well, well I'm speechless. Yeah, I'm a speechless to that. I'm still going to ground sales and looking for that special drink it this diamond real they're out there. It's harder to find now because everybody has this. Not baseball cards are worth millions of dollars, not all of them, but there's still some fines
out there. Yeah, yeah, tell us one more time before we go the Sunday thing. It's this Sunday, April twenty third. The show's here at the shop show Time Cards on Speedway East the Craigcroft and where the show is going to be from eleven to five pm. Steve, you're gonna be here from one to two. So it's gonna be a great show. Yeah, okay, I mean even if you're interested, just come by and look. It's really neat. Right. So we have a lot of different people
and then you're stow your store. Will you open as well? Absolutely? Okay, all right, George, thanks so much, man, appreciate it. This was fine. Thank you, guys. Appreciate you guys. Have you me on right? Thanks George. Anybody would have digging those boxes in years? I mean, thank you. I may sing bad with my cards. Who knows what I'm doing with my stuff? All right, let's go and take our break. We're gonna come back and uh hey, we'll take
your calls five two zero four one six seventy four. A lot of news. We'll cover a lot of that stuff from breaking news. But if you want to give us a call, spring football is out there. There's a lot of transfer, portal stuff happening, all kinds of things going on. If you've got some cards that you want to tell a story about, we'd love to hear that as well. So stick around. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for newly forty years. Now.
Take a look back at the Ludolson era in my new book, Lessons from Loot. It was a labor of love to the eyes of twenty five former players, coaches and friends to give insight to the coach and the man who led them, competed against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach. Lessons from Loot is an insight to how he built the program into a national powerhouse. What one email
me at Steve dot rivera ninety five at gmail dot com. Hey waldcat Nation, Jake Fisher here, I got to tell you about my winning team over at Arizona Health Insider. I was able to get a custom private health insurance plan with no deductibles, no co pays, nationwide coverage, and I get
to pick my own doctor for less than two hundred dollars a month. If you want to avoid getting gouged on the exchange and you want real health insurance, call Arizona Health Insiders five two zero eight five zero six eight six six five two zero eight five zero six eight six six beardown. What's your goal a new career or career advancement? How about transferring to a four year college. Pima Community College can help you make Someday today and reach your goals affordably
on your schedule. With over one hundred programs to choose from and financial aid available, It's time to earn the degree or certificate you need to prepare for the career you want. PIMA offers free career exploration classes so you can choose the field that's right for you. Learn how at pima dot edu. Slash someday. Is your old AC system struggling to keep your home comfortable during the summer, I'm wrong from picture rocks, cooling, heating and plumbing. Do
you dread hearing that AC come on because of high electricity bills? Replace it now with a new high efficiency system before the long hot summer with rebates, text credits and energy savings. It just makes sense. Call five two zero, four four zero or zero six nine. Need more affordable auto and home insurance while making sure your family has the courage it needs when mayhem happens. Got you covered at the Edmund Marcus All State Agency. Go see Edmund Marcus.
He's born and raised in Tucson and a pound graduate of the University of Arizona. He's been an All State agent for twenty five years and has an award winning agency which takes care of his clients home today at five two zero three two three nine three three three for anno and home quote and let him save you money and make sure you have the courage you need. You're in good hands with the Edmund Marcus All State Agency. Do you want to be
part of a winning team? A Team Security is looking for friendly, outgoing events security guards and events staff to be a part of our team. We've been providing our outstanding services to some of Arizona's biggest sporting events and concerts for over twenty years. We want you to join the action. A Team offers a fun and exciting opportunity to work in the sports and entertainment industry, with flexible schedules that are perfect for those looking for a part time job or a
second income. Come be a part of a winning team the A Team Apply online today at a Team security dot net. Want your house to get in tip top shape for the upcoming year. Give Rescue Home Improvements in HVAC LLC a call. They are due at all handyman who will take care of everything from home repair, heating and cooling service, home maintenance, and more. If you're a snowbird, they'll maintain your property's beauty just as you like it.
They're in the business of rescuing their clients prize possessions. Give rescue home improvements in HVAC. A call at five two o two four zero two nine one zero again rescue home improvements in HVAC. Call to to Hey. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeart Radio while just surgeony I on the Ball and welcome back two Fox spots fourteen fifty on Steve bo you're
jagnzals. You have open lines for next twelve minutes to want to cost seven five two huety that's our number five two number four six. Yes, Smith just remembered it. It was good. That was fun with George. It's always fun with George. He's first of all, he's, you know, a good dude, good dude, he knows his stuff. Um, there is a you know, there's just a large segment of people out there who were interested in this stuff. Yeah, Howard. Howard likes to argue because
he was in the business before. Remember who recalled Yeah, I was in providing a far George. I hope he's doing okay in South Dakota, North Dakota. Whatever Dakota, whatever Dakota he might be in. You know, watch out for those people they do, those bikers. The man. Yeah, but no, I I you know, I love talking to him every time. And again. The fascination to me is, you know how he ended up doing this as a business, right and started out when he was
a kid. And how was it garget much younger fifty because you said he twenty five, he started twenty five years later. Fifty looks about fifties in shape. I hate the guy. It's a shape. I got all those muscles. I looked like this. I got the dad bob. But you know when you think about that, and you know, twenty five years ago, right, uh you know, I mean this has been a business for
a long time. Again, I again, I remember those you know guys at the Star where you know, collecting cards and then I mean I left there. I left there start ninety one. So we're talking before that that U you know, this was this was a deal. And now you know, somebody like Georgia has this, you know, very successful business doing this. Yeah. No, it's like it's one of the reasons why he got into the business. So twenty of the reasons why I got into this business
the only thing I've ever wanted to do. You know, you get you it's not really work. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, I'm sure, how many years have you worked? Yeah? How many of your sixty one sixty three old? So you started working when you're let's saying eighteen. I was nineteen when I started at the Star. This put in perspective. Okay, so you've worked, uh, forty forty five years. How many years have you worked? Oh, I'm gonna say the two years I
did at the City. No, No, that's okay. My time both at the Star and that Tucson Electric were it was worked, but it was I It was work. I enjoyed. I love doing it. I love going to work. And then you know when I got out and started doing my own stuff. Yeah, I haven't worked a day soon. So two years out of forty five years. Yeah, it's pretty doting good, pretty good. Yeah. I've worked thirty thirty give and take thirty eight. I've
worked three year, four years. There are times during the newspaper business you can't have to deal with ps, but four years total, which is fantastic. Yeah. Yeah, no, I I you know, I got up looking forward to stuff every day now and I did then. Um, like I said, you know, when you worked for the city and you work in a in an area of the city where people just if they think it's their job and their right to just step on your neck every day, that's
that's hard. That's really hard to do. That's a heck of an endorsement for the city of too well. In the position I was in, I was. I was in the in the UK, I was working in the city manager's office in the communications thought and the only people you heard from where people were pissed you. Yeah, that's just that was the nature of what we did, right, you know, it was the nature of what we did so that that was hard and I could only take it for that couple
of years. So if you want to give as call, nothing would be an interesting topic. How long have you worked really worked really well? I mean, how long have you worked that you considered what you did on a daily basis just really just be a stuff. I don't want to do this, I mean. And of course there's some people out there you know who are like you, and they stay in these jobs too because of what they pay. Well, sure they're stable Um, you know, they're not going
anywhere. They have skills, and yeah, that's what they do so and that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. And there are also people who like to make other people's lives miserable. There are those, and that was working at the city too. For me. I did well, and really, in a nutshell, that's why I left because there were too many people who I work with on a daily basis who that's what they wanted to hear. They wanted to make your day as miserable as possible. Reason what was
the reason? Politics? For what talent? For their enjoyments they wanted? They they God, you're gonna get me. You're gonna we're gonna go into the weeds on this. Well, you don't get There were some city council members who didn't like the city manager two thousand and two to two thousand and four, and those city council members didn't like him, mostly because he was so much smarter than him. So they just wanted to make it as hard
as possible for him to manage the city. And that's and that's what they felt was their their daily duty, and they did that. They were elected officials who didn't want things to go well in the city of Tucson because they wanted to get rid of the city manager. So they did literally sabotage things
because they wanted him out until he finally quit. And you know where he went to work, Sanford University. That's how smart that guy was, right, uh, because then up ended up becoming the city manager of Paulo Alto because he couldn't stand these people any longer than I sure, sure, no, no, that you know. That's what That's what that group of council
members did at that period of time. They were the most dysfunctional, idiotic group of people who had been in the elected in elected position that I've ever run across. Ever, I'm not sure you go, Okay, you guys, know who you are, who I'm talking to, and the people who were listening and know who where I was at the time, know who I'm talking Yeah you get think this is welcome to the political twenty years ago. Yeah yeah, okay, So listen, if you want to call us,
how many years have you worked? But actually worked among those years? It's like some people who love teaching, they get into teaching and they really don't work. Some people think teaching it's crazy. I was a substitute teacher. I'll never do it again. No, uh you know, uh no, I that thankless job, thankless job. And the kids are crazy. Yeah, you kids are crazy. Yeah, they run the show they do, which is I couldn't believe it. I think we would have got our butts
kicked. No, I hear you know, you know I did enough. I didn't enough speaking at at high schools and middle schools. You know when I was a journalist to see how a classroom runs, now, I would you know, they would give me their attention because but getting to that, yeah, to see the things that a teacher had to do to you know, to do I'm like, there's no way I would want to No, no, and every day for whatever. Shoot, now you don't know if
you're gonna get shot, why would you ever want to do that? Very said, hey man, those people are saints, right without questions, deserve to do the work that they're doing. We'll get off the political soap, okay, because we keep getting on it. We tell you other things than basketball, So everyone they could be hearing any time from If I'm crating, there's a guy from from California. Bea break oh, okay, so I
won't talk about that. So there's a lot of things going on. The women's women seems got a recruiter two right coming back, So things are looking at least promising. Yeah, you know, it's shaping up. It's what it is. I think. Did I ask you this or we talking about this? Okay, so everyone talks about a lot of people talk about Okay, well, who's your recruiting are they? Are they talented? YadA YadA?
Are they good enough to play at Arizona? And I'm saying they know what they're doing one and over the last few times Arizona has lost in the tournament, they've lost to teams that weren't as talented. So so much for being talented, right right? Yeah, I mean there's so many pieces of what you have to do right you do that? You know, with Connecticut really the most talented team in the country, I couldn't tell you, but they had some good pieces, right and then pieces that fit in, right.
Isn't that ninety seven? They fit they fit in at the right time. Ninety seven. Come on, you had to apologize to aj because he wasn't wasn't the guy, He wasn't the guy. Jean wasn't that guy, but he fit in. Yeah, you had you had, you had Miles Bennet Davidson could do one thing. Jump by Jem. You couldn't shoot, but he could rebound and jump out of the put stuff back. No, they had the right It's about having the right pieces. This is like a
good marriage. Whether you're a good looking couple or a bad looking couple. If you know how to work it, you'll work it. If you don't, if you're selfish, blah blah blah, it doesn't work. It doesn't work exactly. And and that's yeah, I mean it all has to fit together. And that's what these teams do. And that's what you know. Anybody who's up there, you know, wondering, you know, what's Tommy Lloyd doing? Why doesn't he Why hasn't he you know, signed any you
know, brought any transfer guys in guys. He's out there trying to put the pieces together, and it's he's got. You gotta do it carefully, even as if you're off, if you're wrong on a guy or two, you lose the season. Lose the season right, right, And you don't know if you're off or messed up until it happens, right, until it gets on the floor, gets on the floor, and you work out. You said, God, maybe this guy doesn't this guy. Yeah, it's
like in ninety seven. I don't know if you remember this. Ninety six. Ninety seven they had the pieces and it was kind of a nondescript team, right, and the baby and Simon and Dickerson, JT Nother he read him off their big names. Ninety eight was better than ninety seven, But ninety eighty at work, there was a guy named Stephen Jackson. Remember, right, he couldn't get in, couldn't get in right. What imagine how
he kind of happen? What would have it? Could have thrown off the dynamic of the team, as talented as he was, because you're gonna have to sit one of these guys, probably Miles because he played the kind of Samuel positions, or Dickerson, Dickerson's you know what I'm saying. Right, Well, my mind goes to Sean Miller's team, the twenty twelve team, okay, being Duke in twenty eleven, Mumbo Jones. Uh yeah, the guy who missed a shot, Derrick Williams. Then he goes and gets these
two guys, Josiah Turner and Sadiki Johnson. No, no, there were the first there was in his first class. There was his first class class because he got rid of Momo Jones, well the first first years, because he can't. He inherited whatever they was left. But he got rid of Momo Jones so that Josiah Turner could start right. Didn't Mambo Jones come in afterwards? I'd have to see. I believe that because because he lets Momo
Jones go, Mamo Jones transfers to Iona. I think, because he's gonna start, he wants he thinks Josiah Turner's the answer that Sadiki dude doesn't last a semester. And Josiah Turner was a mess and he was gone, and it's like, you know, he made a choice. That's how I that's how I remember it. Twenty thirteen he went into the draft, so he went other places. I have to see his two thousand and twelve was was he came in and he started and he was terrible. And Sadiki Johnson again
he quit at the at the semester. So you make these choices. Mamo Look, Mamo Jones wasn't great, but he was good for what Sean Miller was doing right game that he had against against Duke in the in the in the sweet sixteen. You know, I mean, like why, you know, why would you say I can't use that. I'm gonna go get I'm gonna I'm gonna take this guy. But Josiah Turner was such a you know, he was so highly rated, right, and he was terrible. He
in fact just said blah blah blah blah. He founded in during twenty nine games, he averaged only six point eight games. Rumors had it that he was kind of a party year to go back seat blah blah blah, which is kind of true. Um, I can't find that in two thousand and twelve he got two thousand and twelve. It must have been freshman year he
was. He was a freshman in two thousand and twelve. Mamo Jones was the was the point guard in two thousand and eleven and then and Sean I don't know if you ran him out, but he basically said, Josiah Turner is gonna be my starter. So Mamo Jones left and Josiah Turner comes in and he used and he was terrible yeah, because Momo went to Iona Iona, right, I had that much. Yeah, I mean I'm gonna trying to go back to him. All right, Well, look it up,
how we're while we're at break. If we're gonna go, we're gonna come back. We're going to have breaking news here at the here at the top of the hour. A lot of stuff going on in a lot of different directions, so we'll be sure to cover as much of it as we can. And s Hee's gonna come back and tell us the history of Josiah Turner at Arizona. Will be right back